Was it the tracing?

Was it the tracing that got her banned?

I don't know the story on this but good for you guys

>>8858313

http://waterbender196.deviantart.com/art/how-i-became-yours-pg-229-115196866

I don't get it.

How she became ours

What?

what

>>8858328
You've been redirected here from how i became yours pg. 229 by !waterbender196 because you need to be a member to view Mature art.
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>>8858351

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii73/stanley_soak/how_i_became_yours_pg__229_by_water.jpg

because i care.

i dont get it

>>8858351
SIGNING UP FOR DEVIANTART SURE IS HARD!

>>8858328
I don't know much about deviant art, how's that banable?

>>8858396
It sucks so bad, even for DA, they were offended?

>>8858396
She copied almost everything from outside sources.

Alot of the characters are traced from the show, backgrounds and objects are traced from pictures found on wikipedia and google.

So horrible it hurts to look at.

>>8858434
ahh ok, well good work fellows

>>8858434

that's why you'd see these asian setting characters in european dress with european backgrounds.

>>8858373
Thanks /co/mrade.

>>8858392
uh, no, but i don't like to create ghost accounts for everything, is just that.

>>8858452

she loved to draw them disney princess dresses.

So is Katara killing Mai gruesomely supposed to be a good thing in this or what?

>>8858462

idunnolol

>>8858434

>backgrounds and objects are traced

Not traced. Copy-pasted.

BLOODBENDING

IN THE DAY

THIS GIRL KNOWS HOW AVATAR WORKS

>>8858506
AND COMPLETELY IN CHARACTER TOO, AMIRITE?

I still wonder one thing, that confused me more the STATUE like characters (same position for like forever) or kids getting drunk, or silly dresses or characters turning evil:
Why the fuck did Aang wear DENIM PANTS?

What were the characters traced over?

>>8858392
WHERE THE FUCK ARE HER TEETH?

>>8858576
Teethbending

>>8858516
WAT

>>8858626

WANANANANA

Tracing on DA?
WHO COULD DO SUCH A THING?!

>>8858607
oh sorry, i think i just lol'd

>>8858648

wananana

>>8858516
I lol'd at the reflection in the mirror.

>>8858649

ahaha, oh wow

>>8858607
Makes about as much sense as Shadowbending...

>>8858607
Wait, couldn't an earthbender theoretically pull out your teeth?

Maybe dentists in the Earth Kingdom are benders.

>>8858576
Covered in blood.

>>8858649

That's better than what waterbender196 posted. Still awful, though.

Someone /r/ the one with Kenshiro

>>8858727
Yo.

>>8858392
>>8858516
Oh god, it hurts.

so she was banned cause of tracing and copy pasting bg?

OH LAWDY

>>8858516
i lolled.

>>8858758
FUCK YEAH

>>8858516

Damn I lol'd at that.

>>8858392
I take it she was a Zutara?

Can someone post the entire comic? For the lulz?

>>8858817

What gave her away?

>>8858835
It's around 200 pages long.

>>8858835
Dude, it's like 200 pages long.
But I think there's a megaupload floating around somewhere.

>>8858835

>entire comic
>page 229

sorry but no

her deviations are still available, just search by:waterbender196 in the devsearch bar

How...how did she fill 200 pages with this? What plot...could she possibly...?

So she traced for 200 pages and still doesn't know how to draw on her own?

>>8858910

The "plot"?

Katara dumps Aang for Zuko and immediately gets teen pregnant. Mai gives Katara a poison fruit which makes Katara Miscarry. Mai becomes EVOL.

Meanwhile Toph inexplicably hook up with Aang while Sokka falls in love for a lobotomized amnesiac Azula. Mai's secret and EVOL big brother who was ripped from a vampire manga attacks Sokka. Mai kills Azula in the tits with a dagger and Katara bloodbends Mai to DEATH in the DAYTIME.

Right about there, Diaz got banned.

>>8859078

Forgive me for the shitty grammar there, the Stupid was too much to handle at that moment.

>>8859078
oh god what the fuck this i cannot stop laughing

>>8859078
Man, that's so horrible it's hard to believe they weren't trying.

>>8858328
>HOLY CRAP!!!!! HOLY FUCKING CRAP!!!!!!
lololol
Some of her fans are so diluted.

>>8859078

As far as I can tell, Kataang never happened actually.

Maiko did, but Zuko cheated on Mai with Katara and had a baby with her because Maiko was a loveless relationship.

Mai supposedly had Katara misscarry to prevent civil war had it become known that the FL was going around dicking watertribe pussy and tarnishing his precious honor.

Zuko had Mai banished.

I have no idea how the timeline works.

Why are you debating this as if you've read it?

Don't tell me you've read it?

Oh God! You've read it! WHY?!!

>>8859078
So, Fanfiction.net with pictures?

What the crap are "stages of Zutarian"?

Do I want to know?

Also, she didn't get banned for tracing. dA policy completely permits this.

She got permabanned for doing the B^Uckley background trick of repeatedly stealing background pics from Google Image Search and applying the blur filter to them. This is actionable, not fair use, and dA could be sued for hosting it, so they took down her gallery. I say 'gallery' because they're still hosting all the images -- if you have links to the individual pages, you can still see them. Apparently dA is retarded about actually deleting content.

>>8859286

The OT levels in which at OT 3 evil overlord Xenu changes the universe around so that Zuko and Katara bump uglies like their life depended on it.

>>8859300
Wait, dA PERMITS TRACING?

That... what? You're not actually making art in that case. The only tracing they should allow is inking.

>>8859300

It's still kinda fulfilling to see the delicious tears flow from journals of her watchers.

Probably the same as the stages of loss.

Waterbender seems to be caught in a mix between denial and anger from what I've seen.

>>8859337
This, of course, being direct to this >>8859286

>This thread

>>8859330

Links, I need lulz.

>>8859319
Kind of a nebulous distinction don't you think?

Also dA is run of corporate scumbags that will ban/allow things based purely on financial grounds. Do not expect integrity.

>>8859179
>Some of her fans are so diluted.

Yes well, that is a danger when dealing with waterbenders.

>>8859319
They claim you can learn from tracing.

>>8859367 do not expect integrity

Did we ever? I mean, really? It's GeoCities for uploading pictures.

>>8859369

CARLOS!

>>8859370
You sort of can. Not if it's all you do obviously but it is not entirely devoid of educational value.

>>8859369
You. You're a good man.

You deserve recognition for that joke.

>>8859319
Yeah, the dumb fuck in charge of policy, 'RealitySquared' allowed it a few months ago.

Most of the admins, their ass kissers and tracers then had a massive circle jerk, much rage was had by all of the (gasp! They actually exist) real artists of dA.

>>8859400
The closest thing to an educational exercise is the upside-down drawing exercise from "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain." And even then it isn't tracing. You learn NOTHING from tracing, not even hand-eye coordination.

>>8859370

You can.

Two-Three years of tracing did wonders to my skills. Can copy anything by eye.

This bitch, however, was just stealing.

>>8859360

http://miluiel-apsenniel.deviantart.com/journal/23996464/?offset=0#comments

>>8859444 copy anything by eye

That's a separate skill and you know it. The book I mentioned earlier has you do just this, but without overlays -- and that IS eye-hand coordination training. The upside-down copying trick is also the M.O. of professional forgers.

>>8859367
Was a sort of bad Chasing Amy reference.

But yeah. Even if you CAN learn things from tracing, that doesn't mean that you are doing anything impressive enough to put online.

I almost have more respect for the idiots who put their undecipherable 4 year old crayon pictures up than I do for the people who get recognized for just tracing things. Or I would, if those idiots didn't also think that they were the best artists in the world.

>>8859319
>Wait, dA PERMITS TRACING?
>That... what? You're not actually making art in that case. The only tracing they should allow is inking.

But the industry permits it, so why wouldn't DA?

>>8859370
>They claim you can learn from tracing.

You can! I traced when I was a certain age-- I't usually trace 'glory' shorts. About 30% of penciling is muscle control, and training your hand to follow the RIGHT kind of curve is important. Plus tracing detail forces your mind to actually think about that detail-- about WHY the line weights varied here, about the spatial relationships involved... when you spend TIME recreating an image on that level, you can't HELP but think "about" the image, and all the little things that make it work.

Of course this assumes:
1) You're drawing yourself, not JUST tracing.
2) You're tracing someone worth learning from. How much can you really learn from Rob Liefeld?

I traced Andrew Wildman when I was but a brat. Love or hate his art... his fundamentals are rock-solid.

Proportion is also important. I think I went through The amount of time you spend drawing should FAR exceed the amount of time you spend tracing. I knew (and still know) I could produce 'better' images by tracignt hem... but I didnt' want to copy images and alter their details, I wanted to learn to create them whole-cloth. And that means just tracing shit wasn't good enough.

>>8859483

I'm telling you I traced. For years.

Then one day someone asked me to make a Goku. Can't remember exactly why, but instead of puting the paper over the drawing and trace, I did it by eye.

Haven't traced since, unless I want a 100% copy of the drawing in question.

But it did help me improve a LOT.

Quoted from Deviantart's rules:

"At deviantART we believe that tracing has a place in our community. We consider it to be a valid learning tool and a technique which has been used long before we had any such applications such as Illustrator or Photoshop. Tracing is how Michelangelo’s assistants transferred his “cartoons” onto the ceiling of the Sistine Chappell. We believe that it is the right of any individual to express themselves within our policies and to share their creativity with the community, interact with other deviants and grow as an artist.

OUR POLICY IN PLAIN ENGLISH

We allow for the submission of completed traced works within the FanArt Galleries providing it is a tracing -- not just a copy -- and you bring your own, original elements into the completed deviation."

>>8859510 You can! I traced when I was a certain age-- I't usually trace 'glory' shorts. About 30% of penciling is muscle control, and training your hand to follow the RIGHT kind of curve is important. Plus tracing detail forces your mind to actually think about that detail-- about WHY the line weights varied here, about the spatial relationships involved... when you spend TIME recreating an image on that level, you can't HELP but think "about" the image, and all the little things that make it work.

This is only useful if your goal is pastiching another artist's style. I should know, I hand-copied a handful of Nagels to master enough of his style to do this back in 1999.

>>8859547
>and you bring your own, original elements into the completed deRIviation."

Fix'd.

>>8859547

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

>>8859547

>>8859547

Ok, >>8859525 here

This is kinda stupid...

>>8859525 I did it by eye.

Can we be honest about the perceived complexity of drawing the following:

- Goku's five line head and tiny face
- Jagged lines for hair
- Crumpled trash bag clothing
- Fists and boots

>>8859584

I know. Stupid, eh?
Now DA and Sheezyart are at the same level of retardness and circlejerking.

>>8859576
Define "useful." I mostly dis Wildman- but I also traced over artists. And the amount of time I spent drawing vs. tracing was 90/10.

Does that mean I traced as a starting point then evolved it into my own style as I tried to make my own drawings "work" in the same way?
But I also didn't trace a LOT. Just a few pads in a few years. By contrast I went through REAMS of paper.

>'Half of zero is zero.' << EPIC!! Gotta love my dad

Something divided by zero is zero? HOLY PENIS WHAT A SCOOP

>>8859433
HAHAHA no. All the real artists didn't give a fuck. All the drama queen faggots had a fit though, I'm sure.

>>8859510
>But the industry permits it, so why wouldn't DA?
Ok, when?

>>8859660
Any number divided by itself is 1.
So 0÷0 = 1

>>8859510
I wish I could hate you bald

Tracing is ok for practicing, but it's not art and you should not show it as something you're proud of. DA is fucking retarded.

>>8859694
>> the industry permits it, so why wouldn't DA?
>Ok, when?

>>8859660
>Something divided by zero is zero?
Half of zero is zero being divided by two. C'mon kid, math isn't that hard.

>>8859694
Greg Land.

>>8859632

Dragon Ball was NOT the only thing I traced...

It was just the most popular show around this parts in those days.

This one was done by eye copying two years after I stopped tracing.

>>8859698
UNCORRECT!

>This person has been banned from deviantART permanently.

>>8859510 when you spend TIME recreating an image on that level, you can't HELP but think "about" the image

This is factually incorrect. When I spend time tracing an image, my mind wanders because it's freed from any understanding of the underlying structure. And again, all you're learning is how another artist chose to draw some lines, their preferred line weights and shading techniques. YOU SHOULD NOT LEARN ART FROM THAT.

I thought DeviantArt was like... Myspace for pictures. It's okay to be a little mad that anime tracers can get more hits and become more popular than you, but... you could be using that energy to improve your own art. Recognition doesn't make something good, nor does lack of recognition make something bad.

I had a theory for dividing by 0 over the summer. I told it to one of my nerdier friends and he said it actually was sound and I needed to work on a proof for it.

I can't remember it for some reason and this is irritating me.

>>8859694
The land of Greg.

>>8859698

So nohing divided by nothing equals something?
Bible math lol.

Wow, she gots banned. Nice.

aaawwwww, I thought she was kinda fun. Good job, faggots :(

>>8859716
I'm NOT arguing in favor of tracing-as-art.

...though wasn't the mimeograph machine one of the major breakthroughs that made the movie Yellow Submarine possible? They didn't trace cells-- they PHOTOCOPIED them and used the enlarge/reduce function for a lot of their animation.

Nightmare fuel.

>>8859748

It says a lot that you stopped adding non-copied original art to your dA profile two years ago and went HARD MODE on other peoples' cartoon character art.

>>8859831

Fuck, 8/10

whenever I have to learn to draw a new animal or object something, I'd just trace photos for a bit to get the basic idea. then work on drawing by eye and coming up with original poses ect.

and everyone learns differently. tracing is useful to me as practice. and that is it.

>>8859872

>>8859842 the movie Yellow Submarine

Entertaining as it is, it's pretty pedestrian animation from a technical perspective.

>>8859854

Not sure I'm following you...

>>8858516

Oh bitch best believe it is Hammertime.

WANANANANA

>>8859806

Something wiped your mind in order to prevent you from discovering some horrible truth behind the universe. Don't try to remember what you figureed out, your safer behind the veil.

>>8859525

Congrats. You'll be able to copy shit.

"SCREW TECHNICAL SKILLS, I WANNA DRAW SONIC AND GOKU OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE."

It's as boring as a Kinkaid painting. (or all of them) At least that douche Kinkaid has technical skills.

>>8859789
>This is factually incorrect. When I spend time tracing an image, my mind wanders because it's freed from any understanding of the underlying structure.

So-- because you are unwilling or uninterested in understanding that underlying structure, everyone else must be a mirror for your failure?

>>8859915
But if I figure it out I could win the pulitzer or something! Then I'll get sweet pulitzer pussy, and a lifetime supply of tic tacs!

>>8859969
You should try tracing over another pulitzer-winning article.

>>8859919

This is me copying Sonic and Goku.

I'm not defending that waterbender bitch. In fact I'm glad she got banned.

Just saying that tracing can allow you to improve (somewhat).

>>8859887

I don't actually care about if God exists. the way that was worded though was just so...so... rage inducing.

>>8860009
It's genius! I'll be just like Einstein!

>>8860014

What the hell are these things on it's chest? Nippleclaws?

>>8860079

Ask god or an archeologist.

Mother fucker. You're in this thread right now aren't you, you faggot?

>>8858392

>>8860234
Nice itty bitty little thumnail.

>>8860234
>126x88

>>8860234
I KEEP CLICKING IT AND IT'S NOT GETTING BIGGER!

>>8859919
This is me still tracing Andrew Wildman.
(Sorry if it's a bit rushed- I didn't have a sample handy so I had to jot something off. Man, it's been AGES since i drew a Transformer.)

The fact you found no value in tracing doesn't mean no one else did.
This does not make tracing art. It's a possible step on the path toward producing your own art. Stop acting like that's what we're taking.

>>8859370

Drawfag here, raging quite hard right now.

BITCH GOT BANNED, TIME TO CELEBRATE!

>>8860693
Tell me that's not one of her actual comics

>>8860693
>TIME TO CELEBRATE!
ONE MORE TIME

I love this guy.

>>8860208
link to that, please?

>>8860716
Fraid so. And she was stealing just to get THIS good.

I'm with this guy
>>8860423
I know people who learned to draw through tracing. It has legit value in learning proportions, and if you want to try to mimic a style. But in the end, it can't be art in and of itself, but a step.

This bitch tried to make it the art. Which gives you crap like bowlegged aang.

>>8860716

We can't tell a lie anon.

>>8860745
>YOU WILL BE BANNED

Yeah, how did that work out for her?

>>8860788
>>8860693
Oh jesus christ

>>8860693
Zuko saying things like "DUDE" and "MAN" really breaks my brain.

>>8860693
that's horrific

>>8860693
lol @ 12-year's old head on 20 years old's body

>>8860693
Gets me every. fucking. time.

>>8860693
Holy christ I'm going to die of laughter.

>>8860014

I never said you were.

How long have you been doing this? Because trust me, tracing and learning from just some cartoons makes learning to draw a very slow and difficult process.

I've been practicing with anatomy and doing life drawings to hopefully wash out the shit I picked up early highschool when I started copying shit from anime.

You may be able to learn some things, but you're practically doing it the hard way.

>>8860841
The same 20-year-old's body as Sokka too.

>>8860693

What exactly are they doing?

Drawfag here,

Technically, tracing can be learned for learning more symbolized styles (Japanese manga-styles, some western styles), but overall, it just leads you to using copy&paste for you drawings. Every man you draw will have the same damn face, with very few differences.

>>8860904

THANK YOU. GAWD.

>>8860693
I just picture Aang spinning around in that pose and then flying off with helicopter noises and I laugh.

>>8860902
Celebrating, obviously.

>>8860895
Oh. My. God.

>>8860693
The... fuck?

>>8860693

When I first saw this, I thought someone made it as a joke.

>>8860693
This is like a compendium of "Do Nots"
1. Stealing BGs
2. Tracing faces
3. Tracing bodies
4. Copypasting said faces and bodies
5. Spelling errors
6. Out of character dialog

It just goes on.

>>8860423

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not very impressive. You may feel that you've gotten some skills from tracing but you're setting a cap for yourself. When you gain an understanding of what you're drawing, you can more easily expand on it. When you focus on just the end product of a certain style, you'll most likely get stuck with it and have a hard time trying to get out of it.

It's why Josh Leznik tells people to NEVER start drawing by copying anime style. It sticks and it's hard to kick. I find myself still having troubles with anatomy and perspective since my mind keeps wanting to place the features in were spots.

>>8860693
>THIS I GOT TO HERE
>GOT TO HERE
>HERE

>>8860693
DUUUUUUUUDE

>>8861067
This person speaks truth

>>8860904
So that is why ALL women in every comic ever have the same face?

>>8861067 When you focus on just the end product of a certain style, you'll most likely get stuck with it and have a hard time trying to get out of it.

This is why I pity Levelord.

>>8861071
There's also --

"And over drinks your going to tell us how your cheesy ass proposed to Toph!"

Which I can't even comprehend. I guess she meant something like --

"And over drinks you're going to tell us about your cheesy-ass proposal to Toph!"

You'd think with all the time she saved stealing, tracing, and copypasting she'd have time to proofread her dialog.

>>8858392
DIRECT LINKING SURE IS HARD.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KCDS6VIQ

Huge ass file if you want it all.

>>8861470
I really, really don't.

>>8861470
OH dammit, now I'm gonna read it all...

Jerk.

>>8860345
A gift.