Goddamn it CN I thought you learned your lesson from CNReal. Get your shit together.
1 step forward, 3 steps back.

Well,the uk Cartoon Network I pick up may have hours of Johnny Test and Ben 10,but there's very little live-action penetration,which is a small mercy,I guess.
New captchas,hm?

Well at least Nickalodeon is returning to animation centered programming. Right?

Right...?

Jesus Christ, the risk-aversion and creative bankruptcy of TV people is astounding.

>>29666062
Here let me che-
>Fanboy and ChumChum
>TUFF Puppy
>Planet Sheen
>Penguins of Madagascar
>Shitty post-movie Spongebob replaying every half hour

NOPE

DAMNIT THE KIDS DON'T SEEM TO LIKE THE REALITY SHOWS! WHAT DO WE DO?!

...Push more reality shows?

BRILLIANT!

>>29666136
Well at least there's Legend of Korra to look forward to.

>>29666227
Which has been pushed to 2013.

>>29666136
Madagascar isn't all that bad. But it lacks something that makes it special.

TUFF Puppy is functional. Lets hope it doesn't suffer from decay like FOP and Danny Phantom did.

>>29666258
I'M STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT!

>>29666059
instead we get censored Regular Show, the first episode of Gumball months before the rest of the series and they've only just started showing the last few episodes of Flapjack

but yeah that reality shit sucks balls

Well, it wont be that bad. Whenever I watch Extreme Makeover, I'd just want to see the kids room, so now I can get an hour of that

>>29666271
It doesn't suffer from decay because it's already so rotten

I don't understand are the live action shows really that successful enough to warrant even more of them? If the only thing this young generation of viewers want to watch now are just dumbed down versions of other reality shows then I saw fuck the demographics, pull all of the animators on the network and team up with Joe Murray and supercharge KaboingTV into an unstoppable force that will consume the face of the Earth.

>Cartoon Network
>reality shows
>CARTOON Network
>the only cartoons are shitty Canadian ones
>sadfrog.jpg

>Craig McCracken will never come back to CN

>>29667199

>Only cartoons are shitty Canadian ones.
>Forgot about Gumball, Adventure Time, Regular Show, Batman, Young Justice, and Thundercats.

>My Cool Face when someone will say all the shows I just mentioned are shit anyways.

>>29667292
He has a good reason not too. In fact now that I think about it, all the creators of shows that basically made CN so great have all left on pretty bad terms. Craig McCracken and Gendy being the most notable ones.

I should be angry, but its such a pathetic idea that its funny.

Seriously, do kids even watch the real thing? I doubt it.

>>29666136
>Penguins
>bad

what

Guys, I think you're missing the important part here.

Some children will get fucking awesome rooms out of this.

Aren't you happy for the kids? You know you would have loved to be on this show and get a fuckawesome room.

>>29667478

Only if I got to kick that douche Ty Pennington in the balls too.

When is [adult swim] going to completely take over Cartoon Network?

Seriously. Give AT to Nickelodian, put RS on [as], and just give CN the axe. It'd be euthanasia at this point.

>AT, regular show, gumball all do amazingly well
>LETS GIVE THEM HOME MAKEOVER

I'm not surprised, because as much as I want to deny it, many of the childrens entertainment networks, such as Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon, are operating under one very big idea, one that can and has shaken up the industry as a whole, and has been creeping up on network execs for quite some time:

Animation, as a medium, is dying.

There have been rumors as early as 2000 that the animation industry is suffering, that the age of cartoons is coming to an end. This has been supplemented with various stories of cartoons that do poorly, angry news stories about how cartoons are damning the children into oblivion, or how simply how the number of viewers is dwindling. Disney was the earliest to adopt the model of live action shows in lieu of cartoons. They started their model while Cartoon Network was still running Cartoon Cartoons and Nickelodeon was still pushing Nicktoons pretty hard. Their plan was simple: slowly phase out cartoons with live action shows until there are little to no cartoons left.

And it seemed to have worked, considering Disney is still one of the leading channels for children. Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network are following suit, though Cartoon Network, to their credit, is trying harder to keep cartoons alive.

Unfortunately, the executives who make these decisions know next to nothing about cartoons, nor do they know why they seem to be "dying". As far as they're concerned, cartoons are finished just because kids don't want animated adventures anymore, which couldn't be further from the truth.

>>29667755
Which would explain why Cartoon Network's live-action endeavors have all failed outside of movies, most of which are based on animated properties. Even Johnny Test, which is the lowest rated cartoon on the network's Monday night line-up, beats out the live-action shows. Unnatural History and Tower Prep both got axed after a single season and most of the game shows failed as well. By the numbers, Dude What Would Happen and Destroy, Build, Destroy should have been cancelled as well.

>>29666590
All of CN's live-action shows do horrible in terms of ratings. None of them get over a million viewers. Compare that to AT, RS, Gumball, and MAD: each of which get over 2 million viewers weekly. Hell, even Problem Solverz gets higher ratings than the live action stuff.

>>29667755
Come to think of it, Nick has six airing cartoons. 4 of which are terrible and 2 of which used to be good

>>29667832

Cartoon Network is still trying to figure out where they want to go with their live action programs. They're trying desperately not to be like Disney and Nickelodeon and make story-based shows, rather they're trying to be a childrens-version of Discovery Channel.

Unfortunately, as you pointed out, kids aren't all that interested in shit like that. I don't foresee Cartoon Network giving up on live action shows, but soon they're going to have to either keep attempting their current strategy of creating kiddie-Mythbusters that barely scrape by, or they'll have to swallow their pride and start making story-driven shows.

Sadly, they won't consider cartoons again. They don't want to be left behind, to be last in the race of children viewership.

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO

>>29667916

What show besides Spongebob used to be good?

>The CN of your childhood is long dead and buried, and Toonami will never come back.

>>29667944
FOP

>>29667755

nah, cartoon network's done pretty well since they moved mostly back to cartoons. all of a sudden they're playing in nickelodeon's league, which was what they wanted to get out of live action in the first place.

>>29667929
Unnatural History and Tower Prep were story driven shows. The latter had Paul Dini handling it, as he created the damn thing. They both failed miserably.

Guys, you're missing the point here:

Reality television shows are cheaper to make.

>>29667950
I always think the cartoons when i grew up were better but then i think it's probably nostalgia, ITT i realize it's not

>>29668054

Yeah, you get what you pay for.

>>29667619
>Give AT to Nickelodeon
Yeah, sure, give the show to the network that shunned it in the first place. I'm sure they'll try to keep it alive.

The worst recent decision CN made is still the cancellation of Cartoonstitute. That would have been so good. I went and looked up the few shorts that finished production before the program was canned and most of them were pretty great.

>>29668054
I don't know what goes into production but i think shows like DBD would cost more. Can someone show me the production numbers? and maybe the CN ratings?

>>29668005

Placement of shows is also important. If Unnatural History or Tower Prep were placed after, say, Hole in the Wall or any of the other game shows that were axed, kids wouldn't tune in because they don't care enough to shut the TV off and turn it back on until much later. You remember what it was like to be a kid: shows had to go on continuously, and if you didn't like something you'd turn off the TV or change the channel or something.

The thing with live action is that most kids are supposed to "grow out of" cartoons and toys by a certain age, around mid middle school, today even younger. There are exceptions to growing out of it, and those exceptions spend their time on the internet lamenting why girls don't like them and quoting Lewis Carrol.

Live action for Nick and Disney works because it targeted girls, the shows were about cute boys, fashion, being popular. Things girls grow into not out of. Cartoon shows on the other hand are either comedies or action toons hawking toys. And you're supposed to grow out of toys at a certain age.

That's why live action is so profitable they target girls using things they aren't expected grow out of. A long time fanbase. Most Cartoons target boys, and boys aren't supposed to watch cartoons after a certain age lest be judged by society.

>>29667619
oh because THAT'S a grreat idea
>12 hour NTSF SD SUV marathons
>same 8 episodes of 4 shows for 24 hours
>New live action tripe every week
Adult swim is a cancer.

Wow. What the fuck.

I remember when I was a kid, I fucking hated reality TV. It was beyond boring for me. I wanted to watch cartoons where people's heads exploded and their arms could stretch 50 fucking miles and it was so fucking unrealistic and it did what cartoons are supposed to do: CATER TO CHILDREN'S FUCKING IMAGINATIONS

No wonder all the kids of today are bland, homogenous retards.

>Your face when you dreamed of having a cartoon on Cartoon Network but now it would be like throwing your heart into a den of vampires

>>29668061
Back then cartoons used to win Emmy's all the time. At one point I think every single show that Cartoon Network was airing at the time during prime-time had a won some sort of award or another. Compared to today I think the closest show that will ever come to winning an Emmy is Adventure Time.

>>29668184
I just wanted to be a voice actor, I never could draw and I'd be too shy to write

>>29668184
>>29668184
>>29668184
I know that feel all too well. Goddamn CN, why did you do this.

>>29668202
What is that, in your screenshot?

If cartoon network really wanted to get more views from kids, I think they should try to go back to their 90's roots. Modernize what made CN so memorable in the first place. Things like Batman/Superman. Doesn't necessarily have to be cape shows, but good story driven shows with good animation. They were doing alright with YJ and Thundercats, but they need to step up with their action-based shows.

>>29667331
Every time I turn on CN, it fucking ALWAYS Johnny Test or *insert random flavor of the week Canadian show*
Or worse, fucking Garfield.
I know its because of my scheduel, but they don't need 2 straight hours of JT.
Ugh....

>>29668133
Anyone know the quote about being mature by liking immature things? I think it was either Lewis Carroll or Mark Twain and it was about a paragraph long

>>29665916
>a home makeover show for children

>>29668324
>mfw I watched an episode of that new Garfield Show
WHY JIM DAVIS? WHY?

Kids these days have ipods and touchscreen cellphones. I don't know why a elementary schooler needs a droid, But I seen them with one.

They don't want cartoons anymore.

Actually no, they love Family Guy, they quote that shit constantly. All the time, they don't stop. I was walking my best friend's bro home from the bus stop and some girl started talking about masturbating because she heard about it on FG and googled it. With her touch phone.

The biggest problems with Television in general is that there's a heavy bias towards Nielsen ratings. The Nielsen ratings system has become the most inaccurate piece of shit viewer rating system that's still dragging along like a wagon pulling a dead horse. Just how obsolete is the Nielsen rating system? They send you a fucking book in the mail and ask you to record the shows you're watching at the requested time slots (which already disqualifies shows with erratic timeslots which CN is starting to do a lot of for whatever reason) and the person who receives such book carries the weight of the area they live in. (Let's say for example within a 10-mile radius there lives a diverse demographic of people who watch cartoons, the new, documentaries, etc. if the person who receives the Nielsen book in that area is some faggot that watches Jersey Shore all of the people in that area count for votes towards Jersey Shore.)

>>29668397
My neighbors 3 year old has an iPhone that she only got because she insisted everyone has one.

>>29668202
Young Justice won an Emmy

>>29668091

they didn't cancel it, they just never aired the shorts. they picked regular show to make into a series then put all the other clips inside ted turner's impenetrable vault.

>>29668397
Eh, kids talking about adult cartoons really isn't that new. Hell, I remember kids quoting South Park and Beavis and Butthead all the time back when I was in elementary school.

>>29668397
Even if kids are quoting cartoons obviously not directed at them, it still shows they're open to being entertained by cartoons. Maybe CN should change to the Adult Swim channel if adult cartoons are the craze.

>>29668419

>biased towards optimizing a meaningless statistic

welcome to big business

>>29668397
>>29668433
My 11 year old brother has an iTouch and an iPad. He also wouldn't know good cartoons if they shot straight down his throat and choked him to death.

Fuck this gay earth.

>>29668397
I don't want to have children for this exact reason.

I wouldn't want to see my own son quoting Family Guy at age 6 while using his iPhone.

Fuck this gay earth

>>29668333
I think it was by HG Wells.

>>29668467
FG is clearly directed to little kids because they want to feel adult. If [as] was openly for kids they wouldn't watch it

>>29668395
I know, right?
It's fuckin' Garfield, the plots are too...out there. I feel like I would have liked it if it were an original show, but noooooo, they had to slap Garfield on there.
Just sucks that people aren't willing to take risks with IPs, althought it's understandable, considering the cost of the producing a show.

>>29668435
Yes they did cancel it. It was supposed to be a series, like Oh Yeah Cartoons and other shows compiled of shorts. But they stopped production after the economy dipped alittle; alot of shorts in the midst of being created were never finished.

Only a few got released online. And actually Regular Show and Uncle Grandpa (called Secret Mountain Fort Awesome) got turned into shows. The latter is godawful though.

>>29668467
The kind of show kids love is stuff like Family Guy an Mad. The kind of shows /co/ loves to hate on it FG and Mad. But that's really a non issue, so go ahead CN, do more of that shit.

>>29668397
>Parents buying their kids not only shit they don't need, but shit that they have no business using
fuck this gay earth.

>>29668467
The ratings aren't the problem. Cartoon Network's ratings, for their animated programming, is higher than it's been in years. They routinely win Monday night among key demographics.

It's time to go and reformat the industry, and there's only one way to do it.

Rush in, replace, reform. Simply Blitzkrieg.

>>29668553
That's why you expose your kids to the good shit first, that way they know modern stuff is shit when they see it.

>>29668553
>>29668547
>fuckthisgayearthmind

>>29668632

Watch them put this makeover junk on Monday, just so it can eat some of those ratings...

>>29668632
Ah, modern economics
>Make more money than ever
>STILL NOT ENOUGH, TAKE NO RISKS

>>29668632
In fact, the Wall Street Journal reported that Gumball is the highest rated show on television among boys aged 6-11. It beats out both Phineas & Ferb and SpongeBob. Kids still like cartoons.

>>29668133
>>29668333
>>29668586
It was by C.S. Lewis you illiterate plebes.

>>29668632
Ah, modern economics
>Make more money than ever
>STILL NOT ENOUGH, CANCEL ALL THE GOOD STUFF

Well to be fair if I was a kid I would totally want an Iphone and shit.

When I was a kid I would constantly fantasize about having a Tv Watch so I could watch Tv in class. These kids can not only watch videos on this shit but play games, hell yes. This is the shit I dreamed of having as a kid while I was bored in class.

>>29667619
>put RS on [as]
some people might be worried that they'd make it too 'adult', but I think they would work with it really well. Hell, it's a few words away from there already.

>>29667755
>Animation, as a medium, is dying.
I hope I'm not the only one that thinks this is incredibly fucking saddening. What we need is a new channel with smart executives and an infinite amount of money to fund mart, creative cartoons. Some for kids, some for older audiences, and plenty that can appeal to both.

SIGN...

>>29668805
>What we need is a new channel with smart executives and an infinite amount of money to fund mart, creative cartoons. Some for kids, some for older audiences, and plenty that can appeal to both.

I thought the Hub was going to be like that. I was so disappointed when I saw what it turned out to be. So much potential wasted.

>>29668838
It has some promise, yeah, but from what I've seen it's mainly Hasbro Plugging: The Channel.

>>29668866

No, silly, its the Bat Channel.

And nostalgia heaven.

>>29668133
Hey. Fuck you. Animation, cartoons included, are an art medium. It can- and is- used to appeal to a wide variety of audiences, and can tell many different stories. It's not limited to kids and toys. People like you are what is killing animation.

>>29668133
>The thing with live action is that most kids are supposed to "grow out of" cartoons and toys by a certain age, around mid middle school, today even younger. There are exceptions to growing out of it, and those exceptions spend their time on the internet lamenting why girls don't like them and quoting Lewis Carrol.

Real Questions:
1. Who expects most kids to grown out of cartoons and toys by mid-middle school? Adults or the peers of schoolmates?
2. What they supposed to watch? The Latest reality show #785? PBS? What these live action shows do not appeal to them. That's one major reason why some people watch cartoons and expand their horizons to anime or international animation.

>>29668652
We shall take the bad cartoons and eradicate them. They do not fuel our cause. We shall experiment on them, and find what makes a show good. We will then use that to make ours a race of pure, excellent shows. Ours will be a Cartoon Reich.

>The TV won't let me keep pretending I'm twelve
>Let me explain why this is bad business

>>29668956
You're so wacky, gay freeman.

So that's why you killed McCracken and Tartakovsky? For this CNReal? I don't get it.

Of course not. You lack vision, but I see a place where tweens watch safe, inoffensive live-action shows all day and all night. Soon, where Toonami once aired will be a string of teenage sitcoms, poorly animated cartoons from Canada, programming blocks that air cheaply produced reality shows. Teen actor-singers, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful Johnny Test reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful.

>>29668866
eh, it's still fairly new as far as kid's channels go... remember, Nickelodeon started out showing nothing but re-runs of old sitcoms like Mr. Ed and Flipper alongside Canadian shows like You Can't Say That On Television. it only really hit its stride a few years later when the first Nicktoons showed up. the Hub's not bad as it is. to be fair, Family Game Night is a pretty clever game show... and it's so family-friendly, EVERYONE wins a shit ton of cash. the loser doesn't get a cruise. that's the only penalty for losing. you still get all the money and bitchin prizes you've acumulated, but no cruise.

>>29668956
Truly this is the final solution.

>>29668750
If you're so book savvy perhaps you can tell us the quote

>>29668133

that's so raven is a mature show for mature ravens such as myself

>>29668838
>Had hope in the Hub

Dude seriously? A joint venture between Discovery Networks, who has been shitting up their own channels with shit like nonstop marathons of Deadliest Catch, American Chopper, and IRT, removing any sort of history from the History Channel and instead add stupid shit like Free Mason/Templar documentaries, Conspiracy Theorist Shows, and everybody's favorite Ancient Aliens. Also Hasbro, MLP and Secret Butt Fun.

That channel was dead from the start.

>>29669003
REMEMBER WHEN I KILLED TOONAMI?
AND I TALKED.
JUST.
LIKE.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

>>29669011
I'll admit, I am a sucker for gameshows. Especially Nickelodeon-like ones. Is it anything like that?

what if we got another cartoon cartoon show to show pilots and stuff.

>>29669003

This. This is the face of our enemy! The swine that allows those that are unproductive to the cause live and proliferate! He sees our glorious ideal and still chooses to spit upon it. He, and his brethren will be the first to feel the wrath of our just fury!

>>29669097
I can't think of a place that would even consider that

When the bastards killed Tom and shot Toonami down, it was the beginning of the end.

>>29669003
>Teen actor-singers, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful Johnny Test reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful.
>Teen actor-singers
I don't know why that made me cringe so much, but goddamn my face is scrunched up into a mess now.

>>29669058

> Discovery Networks, who has been shitting up their own channels with shit like nonstop marathons of Deadliest Catch, American Chopper, and IRT, removing any sort of history from the History Channel and instead add stupid shit like Free Mason/Templar documentaries, Conspiracy Theorist Shows, and everybody's favorite Ancient Aliens

Good thing it was Discovery Kids, then.

Oops, left part of the original quote in there.

Oh, well, let's just kill the whole thing.

>>29668917
I think he was just telling it the way the studios and big-wigs see it, I'm sure he agrees with you. We all agree with you, I'm sure.

How long do you give it till cartoon network changes their name?

>>29669097
>>29669114
CN was actually going to do that. It was supposed to be called Cartoonstitute. It would have been a slot to show animated pilots, just like What A Cartoon! and Oh Yeah Cartoons! But they fucking cancelled it before it finished production. Only a few shorts were finished (they're on Youtube I think). They were really good too. CN is fucking brainless.

>>29669155

You detestable swine! Prepare to feel the wrath of the GRAND IDEAL!

Why doesn't it air on ABC, you know the network that shows the "adults" Extreme Makeover. They could put it on alongside their children's programming, but Cartoon Network? Fuck they are just digging a financial grave.
>inb4 ratings are complete shit

>>29669114

http://www.kaboingtv.com/

John R Dilworth just joined, Maxwell Atoms and John K are soon to follow. If Genndy and others join then they will create some kind of unstoppable legion of the doom variety.

>>29667292
>Craig McCracken will never come back to CN

Was there some kind of falling out between them?

>>29669180
Oh. Right. Well, that's directed at the studios and execs, then.


SHIT, /co/. WE SHOULD WRITE A HUGEASS ESSAY ON WHAT THE EXECS ARE DOING TO KILL THEIR INDUSTRY AND EMAIL IT TO THE EN MASSE.

WE CAN FIGHT THIS, /co/MRADES.

>>29669198
>CN is fucking brainless.

The stupidity of TV network executives as a whole never ceases to amaze me. Even for corporate nitwits, they're dim bulbs.

>>29669187
>mfw in 2 years CN changed it's name to The Network or some shit

>>29669198
damn never knew of that.

gonna go and search youtube

>>29668950
1. Both, parents want their kids to grow up and schoolmates obsessed with not being kids will mock them for watching cartoons.

2. There's more to do than watching tv shows. They might be doing extracurricular activities likes sports or most likely doing shit on facebook or playing online video games with their friends. Maybe reading books, but probably not.

I remember when Cartoon Network ran the Hair Bear Bunch constantly. It was awful, and I hated it, and they've never since aired a program that I found as dull or irritating as the Hair Bear Bunch.

Have some vintage CN, raging /co/mrades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQNJjvaaMEk

>>29669226

>They could put it on alongside their children's programming,

What children's programming? ABC Kids is dead, man.

>>29669155
>>29669003
Stop...just...just stop. You're making me sad, Jackie, ;-;.

........
>Mfw I'm Helping cater a live action show called Level up
>Mfw its airing on CN

>>29669255
If my falling out you mean they fired him and kicked his ass out on the curb, then yes. Fucking Cartoonnetwork, how could they do that? PPG practically put CN on the map. Ungrateful jackasses.

>>29669291
you're vintage makes me rage harder knowing it won't happen again

>>29668993

see:
>>29668917

>>29669270
I sincerely hope the internet kills off television sometime. I hope those assholes are put out of business because of how dumb they are. Good art deserves to flourish.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:TWX

damnit, someone lend me $30 billion so I can buy all the stock and control all the cartoons.

>>29667619
>1 reality show is getting greenlit
>HURR DURR KILL CARTOON NETWORK ITS COMPLETE SHIT NOW

>>29669367
I'm in for 10 bucks

>>29667755
>Animation, as a medium, is dying.
I don't necessarily think this is true, but basically it's been stuck in this rut of being considered a juvenile medium, even though there are plenty of works out there that go against that image. The problem is that no one is willing to put out the kind of work needed to change the animation paradigm in the west: an hour long, well written scifi or fantasy drama that takes advantage of the strengths of animation.

>>29667901
>all of

Nearly ALL OF them were canceled.
Cartoon Network since then has been adding new Cartoons and has been doing rather well.

>>29669311
Poison it. Spike it with something. C'mon man, you know you want to.

>>29669369

Your greentext would stand... If this wasn't the 5th time they've screwed cartoons for live action.

>>29667950
shut the fuck up
>inb4 some faggot rants about how anime needs to be back on Cartoon Network

Didn't Steve Blum say if he was ever put in charge of CN he would bring back Toonami and everything glorious that CN used to be?

Let's make this happen.

>>29669440
It's on adult swim, same thing really

>>29669367

Surely we have at enough people on /co/ that each person shouldn't have to spend more than 300 dollars to buy out cartoon network.

Hell, we don't even need to buy all the stock, we just need to own a majority of it.

>>29668174
>all the kids of today

What do you mean all of the kids? A lot of the kids nowadays don't even watch cartoons, or play with toys. I also think you are talking about 9-12 year olds. They only care about video games and shooting things. Kids under that are slowing getting to that as well.

>>29669092
it's like Double Dare without the slime. in that there's tons of wacky events that require the contestants to work together. they had one where there was a giant Operation guy. you'd call out an ailment and try and land a skee ball in that hole. if you missed, his nose goes apeshit. terrible title, but a pretty clever show to be honest.

>>29669349

>TV network sponsored by Happy Meals, Capri-Sun, Air Hogs and Zhu Zhu Pets can and must attract every demographic ever

>Cartoon Network is the National Endowment for the Arts

>>29668324
during the day Cartoon Network has been showing a lot of it's older cartoons
2 stupid dogs, billy and mandy, ed edd and eddy Kids next door etc. What I find ironic is most people that complain about current Cartoon Network doesn't even have the channel let alone pay for a TV service.

>>29669515
Plenty of kids still care about cartoons. I don't know where you people have seen evidence to the contrary. Your own "personal" observations aren't evidence to the mainstream.

>>29669236
>John R Dilworth
>Maxwell Atoms
>AND John K
IS THIS THE REAL LIFE

IS THIS JUST FANTASY

>>29668397
most of the family guy jokes go right over their head too. They only understand the toilet humor. Also not surprising since a lot of the jokes are 80s references too.

>>29669586

I pay for Cartoon Network.

Shit sucks the stink off a dead mule.

I remember when there was a time it seemed like Cartoon Network could do no wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaTs5Hokf1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-SN9wvZUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRNuq8hliC0

>Mfw the thought of some super metashow where all the CN characters live together in the same world would make me cream so hard my offspring would outnumber all of the poor children in Africa.

>>29669586

Yeah, I'm sometimes around long enough to watch 2 stupid dogs. They need to set a half hour to play 5 different shows in the primetime over the week.

>SBT gets one season
>Problem Solverz get a second season
fuck CN.

>>29669546
Hot damn. I have to see this.

>>29668623
>kids love
>mad

No they don't. It hasn't even been doing well. You realize people who have been watching their monday night lineup is mostly people from our age group right?

>>29669644
>No toys? C-C-C-CANCELED
>Seizures: The Animated Series? FUND IT

>>29669677
>It hasn't even been doing well
I hate more than anyone, but that's a lie. It's been getting the highest ratings out of all the shows on the Monday block. I remember raging about it not too long ago.

>>29668950
When I was in middle school (6th grade) my peers were already grown out of cartoons. It was either South Park, or Jackass references.

>>29668917
>>29668917
Maybe in Europe or Japan, and some American animated shorts shown in film festivals. But most cartoons are there to be comedies or get kids interested in buying a toy.

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Each day we crack open the vault and show 4 shows straight from the past! Tell us what you like and what you don't online, and they'll come again!

Cartoon Network, where old stuff lives!

>>29669767
I like this. Alot.

>>29668202
source? google images didn't help

>>29669471
Adult Swim even got tired of people complaining about Anime not airing on other days besides Saturday. Also the shut the fuck up thing was because I hate being reminded that a big part of my youth is now gone. Then again it was painful watching Toonami in late 2006-2008. When it became Saturday only and dropped all their shows only to show 2 New Naruto episodes a week.

>>29669767
*whisper* Yeah and cancel CNreal and Johnny Test. *jabs barrel into back*

>>29669596
The same can be said for the other statement, bro.

>>29669846
>cancel CNReal
hasn't that already been canceled? There's really only two LA shows from it left, and they hardly get played anymore.

>>29669627
I said that because most people complaining, would say like
>then there is shit like camp lazlo or chowder
Then you mention those shows have long since been done, then they admit they haven't watched the channel in years. By the way Camp Lazlo, Chowder and Flapjack were good. Even My Gym partner is a monkey.

You can do a well animated cartoon show that appeals to both kids and adults on the internet that complain about cartoons. Pay writers, animators, inbetweeners, character designers.

Or you can just pump out a shitty reality tv show for cheap and if it becomes popular you'd get more money from it than a toon show and if it doesn't? Who cares, it was cheap. Pack up and try again.

>>29669846

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>>29669846
The CNreal project died a long time ago bud. The fact that you refer to it with that name says a lot.
You do realize the whole "CNReal" Shtick was played 2 and half years ago correct?

It's just another boring game show that nobody is going to watch and that isn't going to effect anything, just like Destroy Build Destroy and Dude What Would Happen. Chill the fuck out, it's not like they're canceling all cartoons and changing their name to The Network.

>>29669931
All of those explosions have to cost something. Othersiders? That was cheap. I don't think Destroy, Build, Destroy is cheap.

>>29669929
>Even My Gym partner is a monkey
FUCKING FINALLY. I will never understand why everyone on here shits on that show so much. Of all the crap CN has put out post 2004, people pick on this show the most. It wasn't that fucking bad. I thought it was pretty funny. I didn't see anything about it that would make people cringe. What the hell, I just don't get it.

>>29669997
You do know what Extreme Makeoever: House edition is correct? This is just a kids version.

>>29669795

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pld6fHqHVLA

>>29669929
Who the hell even mentioned those shows?

>there were live action shows on animation networks all the time when you were little
>you ate that shit up and loved all of them
>they made lots of money

Now why wouldn't they do it now? You're not their demographic anymore. They're fucking raking in the cash with this shit. Why should they stop?

>>29669289

>There's more to do than watching tv shows. They might be doing extracurricular activities likes sports or most likely doing shit on facebook or playing online video games with their friends. Maybe reading books, but probably not.

Yes, but what if their only option is watch television shows due to circumstances beyond their control? (i.e. dangerous neighborhoods, rural area, controlling parents)

>>29670008
Personally none of the cartoons that came out after 2005 aren't bad at all. I enjoyed every new one. I just find it rather stupid when people complain about those shows when they have been done. What I find disturbing is people aren't acknowleding Toonami wasn't a walking corpse in it's final years. Toonami was at it's strongest till they made it Saturday night only. Toonami died in 2004 for me.

>>29670008

worse than just being boring, it was unfunny.

here's my idea for a Cartoon Network lineup:
>Weekdays (Monday-Thursday)
really early on, play OLD stuff (classic Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, etc.)
switch to classic CN until aroun 3:30PM (Ed Edd n Eddy, Johnny Bravo, Courage, etc.)
show modern CN (Adventure Time, MAD, Regular Show, etc.)
around 6, switch to Toonami (DBZ, Gundam, Transformers, Batman, Megas XLR, Samurai Jack, you could probably add in some of the newer shows like Thundercats or Clone Wars)
switch to Adult Swim (King of the Hill, American Dad, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, etc.)
around 5AM switch to OLLLLD stuff (Astro Boy, Robotor, Speed Racer, etc.)
repeat until
>Friday
basically the same, but replace the Toonami and newer CN block with a new version of Cartoon Network Fridays. all new epsisodes of shows like Adventure Time, Clone Wars, Batman, Young Justice, etc. and it'd have that bitchin theme song (Iiiiiiit's been a long week...). also, new shows would debut here.
>Saturday
think normal line-up, but the new CN block gets replaced with a family-friendly movie or two (just something for the kids, think the Powerpuff Girls Movie or Kung Fu Panda). the Toonami block gets a bit more adult movie or two (something like Batman Mask of the Phantasm for example).
>Sunday
basically acts as a catch-up day for anyone who missed Fridays. repeats all the new episodes/shows.

so, that's my idea... thoughts?

>>29670008
To be honest, the premise and execution were a bit lacking on that show, especially compared to Chowder and Flapjack.

>>29670008
Yeah, I found that show to actually be entertaining. pretty pretty shiny shiny

>>29669998
Pay a few thousand dollars to buy junk vehicles. Hire an explosives maker which costs another few thousand dollars.

I doubt this show had to put more than 10k down an episode for supplies not included in your standard live action show.

>>29669998
>watch an episode of Dude What Would Happen out of extreme boredom
>They drive two fucking lamborghinis into a lake
>They set a trailer on fire and then shoot a rocket grappling hook launcher though it
>A whole bunch of other retarded crap using complex machinery and expensive shit
>it's still cheaper than making a cartoon

Life isn't fair. It's just not fair.

>>29669767
>Cartoon Network, where old stuff lives!
Isn't that what HUB is for now?

>>29669795

One of the many cartoons that get cancelled before they even get started.

Honestly, the main thing that's keeping me form watching Cartoon Network is that I use the computer so much, and none of the places I usually use it are near the television. I'm going to try to start using my laptop in the living room more, but it seems odd to deliberately be trying to watch MORE television.

Anyone find it odd that Cartoon Network nabbed nearly all of Kids WB! shows? Even more interesting seeing as how kids WB went away after that. It was "The CW" from then on. It's funny though that they recently have been doing their own Saturday morning toons again, with their "Toonzai" lineup. They got the rights from CN to show Yugioh again, and they play Dragon Ball Kai(Toonzai is the one where they had a blue popo)

>>29669644
Seriously? That ugly ass abomination of a show is getting more episodes?

>>29670064
If something like Destroy Build Destroy was aired on CN when most of /co/ was young they'd be nostalgiaing over it like Legend of the Hidden Temple. You know this to be true.

>>29670166
>and they play Dragon Ball Kai
pretty sure you're thinking of Nicktoons there pal.

>>29670166
It's even more hilarious when one of the shows Cartoon Natwork "nabbed" from Kids WB! was Johnny fucking Test. Cartoon Network shouldn't of let Yugioh go back to CW Toonzai and instead, give them Johnny Test.

>>29670225
Maybe, but they'd still be calling it a ripoff of that much cooler show, Mythbusters (Because DBD and DWWH? are essentially rips of Mythbusters)

I remember seeing the promo for Dude, and going 'Holy Crap! They're getting kids to do what the mythbusters do! Finally, a show with action and SCIENCE I don't have to worry about having to break down for my sisters'. Then the show came out.

>>29670233
Look it up. CW Toonzai has been airing Dragon Ball Kai for awhile now. So I'm pretty sure I'm right there seeing as how I actually watched ON THE CHANNEL. Yes I am American, yes I pay for TV.

>>29670225
I don't think people have very many fond memories of Carrot Top's A.M. Mayhem. Also, most people preferred Cartoon Cartoon Fridays over the Fridays with human hosts. I don't think Cartoon Network and live-action is compatible.

>>29670262

That would be fine if Funimation or another company Redubbed the Yugioh series.

The fan subbed version was awesome. (Go watch subbed S4 of GX to see what I mean)

>>29670345
I know CW has been airing it. I thought you were implying CN was showing it as well. Because it isn't. Nicktoons has though.

>>29670375
Toonzai is the one that made Funimation edit Mr. Popo blue. It doesn't belong on the channel.

Everyone needs to realize the the majority of the viewing public are zombified to mediocrity. When a network wants to invest air time in shows that appeal the a greater demographic. They try to add way to much into a single show, deluding it of what makes it grand. Dabbling in cheap production shows, with mediocre designs, cliche cast, and BGM.

Then you will have the smaller viewing public who have their own tastes that calls good shows crap to someone else who finds it good and calls their's crap in turn. No one wins because both sides have the maturity of a highschool kid, and will not except people like different tastes in genuine good shows. These people are cult fans, the reason why they can't have nice things in pop culture.

Point is, people on /co/ or 4chan for that matter are a small percentage of the viewing public. My taste vs. your taste in genuine good shows kills each other while the majority still get their shit on TV.

example: Why the hell so we still have The Simpsons and Sethtoons, but no King of the Hill?

It's probably painfully obvious to everyone here, but I just need to get it off my chest.

Honestly, I can't even say I'm surprised any more. They, along with pretty much every other cable network, are digging their own grave by appealing to an audience less stable than thin ice, and culling all of their other projects at the expense.

The sooner they die, the better. At least then they'll be more focused on online streaming and DVD sales, that way the shows will create their own demand instead of being subjugated to whatever death slot it was assigned to. "I put this show on the air where the majority of people are still sleeping, why is no one watching it".

>>29670419
>At least then they'll be more focused on online streaming and DVD sales
That's another thing CN has royally screwed up in. I'm fairly certain that at this very moment, the only Cartoon Cartoon that has it's full series on DVD is the Powerpuff Girls.

Where are my fucking DVDs CN? Get your heads out of your asses; it's been more than a decade. What the fuck is taking so long.

>>29670367
Cartoon Network pretty much got a hold of Yugioh, and aired a lot of the 5D's episodes. I don't know when but The CW got Yugioh back in it's entirety. Cartoon Network still has Pokemon and Johnny Test though.

I have the same problem with National Geographic. While the magazine is still great, the channel has devolved into nothing more than reality TV with some semi-good documentaries and animal shows filling its place.

Mark my words: The ONLY channel which has not significantly declined in quality is TCM.

>>29670225
That's true. Don't nobody deny it.

The thing is, now the majority of live-action childrens' programming is generic sitcoms, which in turn, are becoming an excuse for execs to make less cartoons, and many of those that they do make are low-quality shit.

They might have a few good ideas for new reality shows, but I cant say Ive seen any good ones lately.

>>29670544
I used to get Nickelodeon magazine, Ranger Rick and Nat Geo.

>>29670544
>>29670587

Also worth noting that the Science Channel and History Channel have been devoted to airing doomsday shows all the fucking time.

Never forget /co/.

>>29670629
Also Alien conspiracy theories.

>>29670655
Reality shows on Cartoon Network?

ANCIENT ALIENS

>>29670655
And Mystical Nazi UFO Zombies.

>>29670689
>Mystical Nazi UFO Zombies
I got excited for a few seconds before I came to my senses. Fuck you for getting my hopes up.

>>29670752
Well, just UFOs, Nazis, and Nazis making UFOs.

>>29670587

Muse and Ranger Rick should get their own shows or channels.

>>29670526

This also scares me. The execs are always holding the rights to these shows, meaning that they're stuck in animation limbo until they either give up the rights or some Divine God intervenes. There's nothing stopping them from just letting the show be forgotten forever.

They refuse to let it go because it might create competition on a rival network, but they also do nothing to make it worth having for themselves. HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS EVEN WORK

If all the CN reality shows were this guy yammering on about ancient aliens I'd watch it.

>>29670838
hoarding

>>29670962
I wonder how long until CN airs a kid's version of Hoarders. I'd watch the fuck out of that.

You see what happens, Larry?
You see what happens when you watch MLP?

>>29670911
Ugggh, he's fucking hilarious.
I'm gonna watch him now.

>>29669367
You only have to get 51 percent, but you'd have to do it through anonymous holdings and dummy corporations or they'd catch wind too fast. "Well, as long as I have forty percent, and all these people have less than five.." And then you sell all the shares to YOURSELF in the real corporate face.

And then you show up to the board in daisy dukes and a loud Hawaiian shirt, popping a candy cigar up and down in your teeth. "Cancel all real action. We're called cartoon network. Someone get Gennedy up here, tell him we're under new management, it's time to sell some fightin' robot toys."

>>29670587
AWW YEAH NICK MAG. I still have mine. fucking AWESOME magazine.

>>29670976
>Kid version of Hoarders
>Kid version of Intervention
I'd watch the fuck out of that

>>29671083
I have a Nick Magazine advertising the upcoming pilot of Invader Zim.
NO
SHAME
NO
REGRETS

>>29671061
Someone needs to draw that.

>>29671061
>And then you show up to the board in daisy dukes and a loud Hawaiian shirt, popping a candy cigar up and down in your teeth. "Cancel all real action. We're called cartoon network. Someone get Gennedy up here, tell him we're under new management, it's time to sell some fightin' robot toys."

>>29670526
Man, I bought the SHIT out of that box set. It is on my shelf and I watch them all in a marathon every couple months. My children are going to see that show. It is one of my treasures. If I could do that for every smart show I used to enjoy? I would never watch CN again.

And I think they know that.
And I think that's why they don't.

>>29670791

You know you'd love a comic about these guys.

>>29670976
"today, we visit a boy who REFUSES to get rid of all of his Cartoon Network DVDs-OH WAIT THOSE DON'T EXIST."

>>29671199
Oh, does the box set have the 10th anniversary half-hour special they did? The one that came out in Feb 2009 I think. Where Mojo actually succeeds in taking over Townsville. I'm thinking of getting it, but I just wanted to know.

There's still hope. "The 90s Are All That" gets huge ratings. Even CN isn't so retarded that they can't see those numbers, get big cartoon dollar signs in their eyes, and trot out our favorites like their bottom bitch.

But isn't that like, part of the show already? They renovate the whole house, including the kids' rooms.

They had something like this in the UK. Kids just killed the property values of their parents houses. shit was hilarious.

Cartoon Network airing things other than cartoons is fucking stupid though, that's like MTV playing stuff other than music. oh right.

>>29671312

Here is a summary of all episodes of non-cartoon shows on cartoon channels.

MC = main character

F1 = best friend of another race

AD = conflict issuing adult figure


MC: Hey guys, I was just go-

F1: Oh I'm the wacky friend I am loud and I have a silly hat on or some shit, (insert funny face)

MC: Oh thats... not cool

F1: Herpy derpy doo, off stage I go I'm retarded

MC: Uh.. BUH BYE you are silly! I am totally not silly but I will act silly momentarily

AD: Hey MC I got some kinda thing and I hope you did it right or some shit, I am creating conflict in a slightly funny manner, I am old and represent parents and teachers and it's funny for kids when bad things happen to me, also I'm dumber and weaker than children because I'm over the age of 18.

MC: Oh yea I did the thing (lie)

AD: Ok good, I'm gonna go do some polka dance or bagpipes or some other dumb shit the network thinks kids don't like.

MC: (panic face) OH MAH GOD I SHITTED UP THE THING GOTTA COME UP WITH DAH WACKY PLAN!

Then everyone wonders why the main character is acting weird, the plan unveils and a lesson is learned, all the while bad acting and everyone is yelling for no reason.

The end.

>>29671329
Yeah, it does.

I just got done watching The Chronicles of Manny and Khan from cartoonstitute and all I can say is that cartoons need more short germans.

I believe that alone will save the industry.

>>29671488
Thanks, definitely buying it now.

>>29671538
Did you watch Danger Planet? That was my favorite. I really wish that had gotten turned into a show like Regular Show. It had a nice premise. Yeah, I also liked Manny and Khan.

>>29671486
<mfw reading this

>Nicklodean and CN owned by same company that owns MTV

They are weening kids onto reality tv, don't you see?

Wont you hear my plea?

Don't you agree?

I gotta pee?

>>29671538
>German leprechaun

wat?

>>29671810
One of the guys who worked on it said the leprechaun was supposed to be a gnome, but CN made them change it. I will never understand CN sometimes.

>>29671789
Nickelodeon and CN owned by the same company that owns MTV
No, CN is owned by Time Warner. MTV and Nick are owned by Viacom.

>>29671789
Nick is owned by Viacom
CN is owned by Time Warner

Now, yes, both report to the same Zionist Reptilian Masonic Alien Overlords, but they're owned by different companies.

Who cares, it's more variety and some kids will enjoy it, they don't cancel shows to make room for other shows

>>29668202
..this... what was this called...

It's on the tip of my tongue..
start with ..like an s sound? sebastian?..no that's not it.

If it's what I am thinking of... there was this goatman who found a boy(the man in teh pic) and..he trains to fight a king or something....

was a trailer for a movie that will never exist

OH GOD I AM SO CLOSE TO THE NAME IN MY MIND. IT'S LIKE RIGHT THERE!

>>29672004
Siegfried

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pld6fHqHVLA

And it will never be made.

>>29671716
I did. Love Dana Snyder. But I hope that some trash planet wouldn't be the setting the whole time.

It'd be like a videogame where all the levels are sewer levels and destroyed urban areas at night.