It's a bizzare form of "positive racism" it's just as bad as negative racism in its own way.

>An African-American Spider-Man makes perfect sense

why

why does that make perfect sense

I actually want to hear you complete your thought

You know what would be the funniest thing ever?
If he was a huge stereotype, and everyone is like "...well fuck..."

>>29641272
I don't care that he's black, I care that he's not peter parker.

Some of these quotes are really pissing me off. The president one seems kind of sarcastic though.

The Root is like some kind of exploitation magazine like ebony, just a bunch of assholes who never heard of luke cage.

Hey guys he's blackity-black. Did I mention he's black? That's all we're going to fucking tell you about him. Hope you read this overly decompressed tripe!

I talked about this in my Media Literacy class. everyone in my class agreed that making a big deal out of this is retarded

Meanwhile...DC does a reboot and gives nearly a dozen ethnic and minority characters their own titles and gets completely ignored.

It's Ultimate, who the fuck cares?

>yfw all of these comments are the media only trying to not look racist.


but really, I wonder how many non-comic fans realize that this is in a non-cannon universe where jack shit actually matters.

>>29642201
I want that I really do.

This always happens. There' s a new black or gay superhero and the mainstream media acts as if this is a totally new thing because they never bother to learn about anything even slightly niche before they write about it.

How is it that this many people care that he's black? It's stupid stuff like this that keeps race as an issue alive.

>"We have an African-American President, why not an African-American Spider-Man too?"

Okay, so, I've read Ultimate Universe up to, but not including, Ultimatum.

What do I read in order to get me to a point where I can read this.

Has this comic even come out yet? Are they talking about it without even reading it?

>>29642563

If a news article about comics begins with "bang! zip! pow!" you can safely stop reading it

I don't hate minority characters. I hate that no one ever comes up with good ones so their books get cancelled. Then instead of writing a good one they just shoe horn a minority into the place of an already established character.

Look at the news. A black spiderman is all over the place. No one even mentions shit like the new Static Shock comic.

> We're pretty excited

>>29642695
>Noone ever comes up with good ones

You talkin' shit bout my Blue Beetle?

>>29642201

I think he will be just like Peter in terms of personality and hobbies...

...which will bring up the question "why did they need to change the character, then?"...

>>29642198
I've got an easy one for you.

Imagine a young kid, hanging around the city of NewYork for the majority of the time. He's not really out to hurt anyone, he's just living his life, enjoying friends, and attending school. Occasionally, someone gets hurt or has trouble with something. Often times, he'll be there to help. He doesn't always do the best of jobs, but everything he does comes from the heart. Sometimes his deeds will help someone get home safely, and other times the actions taken will diffuse a tense situation. However, no matter what the kid does, everyone will look at him out of the corner of their eye, just in case. He could be walking, helping citizens along the way and people will still be wary of him due to misconceptions and preconceived notions of what and who he is.

This is an African American youth, doing the right thing; yet it's still a task straight out of Tartarus to merely be accepted by society. This is Spider-man, living his life and doing the best he can with the hatred he receives from society.

Makes sense to me, bro.

/co/ isn't love anymore...it's empathy.

>>29642759

Because your guesses aren't facts in real life.

>>29642751
I am saying that the never come up with good original minority characters. The last one that I can think of that held his own, without relying on the name of a preexisting character, was Spawn.

Is it weird that I'm more interested with what they're going to do with his age than his race?

I mean, shit, he's what, 12? I wanna know what kind of kid this is.

Anyway, answer this >>29642609

>Brandnewcool being sarcastic.
>Marvel doesn't see it.
>MFW

>>29642854

Well, to be fair they also don't come up with original new characters that often.

>>29642825

I never said they were. There is a reason I used the verb "think".

In any case, I am all for diversity and such but this just feels forced.

Oh and, I am looking forward to their explanation of how Miles got his powers and also from where.

FYI, I am not a caucasian and was not born in North America.

>>29642513
>completely ignored

Are you serious? I'd be surprised if Ultimate Spider-man were to break the top 10 this month because of the DC reboot.

I need a break from 4Chan

>>29642938
That has nothing to do with the issue. They can't make a minority character that will sell. So they try to force one into the place of a popular established character. That is the point.

>>29642198
He's supposed to be a poor kid living in a shitty New York neighborhood.

I honestly don't give a shit about blackskin blackcostume spider-black, but they're right that it does make sense for a character like that to be black.

>They're counting the Colbert Report as a place that was talking about the new USM
>It was a fifteen second joke that was literally "Is he a black person bitten by a radioactive Hispanic or a Hispanic bitten by a radioactive black person?"

Then again, half the names they're pulling up that aren't being quoted on the page are comedy shows.

>>29642941
> I am looking forward to their explanation of how Miles got his powers and also from where.

Pretty sure you don't know your Ultimate Universe very well, super powers are mass manufactured there, a couple of issues ago there were a Korean Spider-Man.

Also,we don't know if Miles Morales is going to be a carbon copy ( DOHOHOHO) of Peter.

>BET.com has two quotes up there
>BET's (lower left) quote implies that there weren't black superheroes prior to this
>BET aired the fucking Black Panther cartoon

>>29643090

>Also,we don't know if Miles Morales is going to be a carbon copy ( DOHOHOHO) of Peter.

That is in bad taste. dude

>The Coblert Report

>>29643005
>They can't make a minority character that will sell.

They can make new characters that sells, the fact that they are o are not minority is just a consequence of that fact.

I'll always hate him for stealing someone else's heroic identity. It's improper, unethical and speaks of his inability to form your own unique ideas , as well as being a thief, a lowlife scoundrel and in general lacking respect for the dead.

It hasnt been an in-story year, and he's stealing Spiderman's name? Fuck him.Dont give me that 'he's honoring his memory' shit. Dont give me that ' he wants to fill the gap he left behind' shit. You dont steal another man's work and legacy.

>>29643090

I just did a search for that Korean Spider-man of yours and apparently he showed up in the Ultimate Avengers Vs The Ultimates.

In my defense, I didn't read anything other than Ultimate Spider-man in that universe

>>29643114

That's not what that quote implies at all. It implies that people don't know about them.

The worst part is that apparently so many of them think he's the first black superhero ever.

They think this even though Storm was in the X-Men movies and War Machine was in Iron Man 2.

What is wrong with the media?

>>29643188

>*They can't

>>29643191

Are you new to comics?

>>29643261

I'm not sure he's read one.

>WE
>SPIDERMAN
>NOW

>>29643261
>>29643276
This is /co/. No one here has actually read a comic in their life. If you wanted informed opinions you came to the wrong place, friend.

>>29643225
They are oportunist

It's sad really, it's like me walking into a basketball force game and saying that Peyton Hawk is the all star pitcher for the soccer collaborate.

It's really fucking stupid when people want to talk about shit they don't know about

Another reason why I hate how G4 TV tends to hire eye candy hipster host instead of people who genuinely find the hobby entertaining.

>>29643369
Why do people like you keep popping up and pretending like you speak for all of /co/

I can get why it's a "big deal". Yes there have been black superheroes before, but it's that he's such an iconic hero like Spider-man and he's not playing second-fiddle to some white character.

I gotta say it's pretty cool to give Spidey a new identity, but I hope his storyline is completely different from Parkers. Can anyone give some detail on his background?

>>29642198
It's already been mentioned, but in theory, if they make enough black super heroes, the opinion of black people will theoretically change if they haven't already met a black person who has reinforced any negative sterotypes. Unfortunately, that'd probably require more white super heroes being replaced and could back fire, making comic fans even more resistant towards minority characters created for minority sake.

>>29643418

"/co/ doesn't read comics" has become a bit of a meme

>>29643261

Not the guy you're responding to, but I agree with him. The difference between this and almost every other legacy mantle is that Miles Morales had no connection at all to Spidey before he died. Usually it's a sidekick or partner who upholds a mantle (the natural and expected progression of characters) or at least someone close to them (family or friends, Miles is neither). Also, there's generally a larger amount of time between mantle assumption in cases where the successor to the mantle and the predecessor don't know each other.

>>29643418
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

>>29643496
>1st issue comes out tomorrow

You're going to have to wait with the rest of us.

Which is also one of my gripes with this who debacle as well.

People are complaining and shit when it hasn't even come out yet.

I can understand enthusiasm and anticipation but seriously, what are people complaining for?

>>29643369
>>29643276
>>29643261
Actually, I have.
Since I was a little kid.
I dont like the concept of Legacy characters.
Just as I think Clark Kent is the one and only Superman, Batman is only Bruce Wayne and Spiderman is Peter Parker.

I liked the Green Lantern thing, because from the beginning, being a GL was not a 'legacy' to be passed on, as much as it was a bunch of people acting as space cops. Nothing to steal.

But Miles?
Ah,Miles, nothing like stealing another man's legacy and name fresh from his death. You little rascal.Couldnt wait until his body was cold,eh?

Fuck him. I'll never buy UMS again.
I had pretty much all of it.

Inb4 leftover scraps of the venom symbiote in Peter's corpse reform into a full copy of him and then ditches the body leaving him alive again with all his memories ala gwen stacey and carnage.

>>29643588
Wally West, bro, Wally West

>>29642198
peter parker was a poor kid raised in queen. Most of these people never read the comics. Most people in queens these days are poor black kids.

>>29643588

So... You don't like change?

Don't worry, we won't miss you.

I am legitimately surprised that no one has made a "blacks steal everything" joke yet.

I WANT A WHITE MR TERRIFIC, THOSE ASSHOLES!

Why does he wear a black suit now? That shit's lame.

>>29643662
We're holding back.
Specially since being racially crude and offensive is a bannable offense outside of /b/.

I think the jokes, but I dont write them.
T'would be crude.

>Marvel has paved the way and opened up the doors for us, mixed folk, who've always wanted a black and hispanic superhero we can aspire to be like
whatthefuckamIreading.png

>>29643637

Poor kid, raised in Queens, live with his uncles because his parents are absents, his uncle shot by a mugger, poor social skills, bullied by his peers for showing an interest in science, etc.

A black kid would make sense, in fact I'm of the idea that Ultimate Peter should have been black since the beginning.

>>29643588
OH NO HERE COMES CHANGE

LOOK OUT

Whoo that was a close one, good thing everything will be status quo. Thank goodness nothing ever changes and all of my precious capes keep existing in a sliding time line.

Change happens anon and believe it or not and in my book it's welcomed.

>>29643664

The first Mr. Terrific was white. Just like this text

>Nobody bothers focusing on the MORALES part
So like, does Black override Mexican?

>>29643664
>I WANT A WHITE MR TERRIFIC, THOSE ASSHOLES!

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>>29643428
So here's an idea, instead of reskinning a currently iconic hero, why not elevate an already black superhero to icon level status?

The answer? Because that requires an end to stagnation and stagnation is all safe and profitable.

>>29643397
I know that feel.
I realized G4 was going to shit the moment "Attack of the show" hit the air. The entire network took it's focus off of tech and video-games, and became a network dedicated to eye-candy, sex jokes, and college humor...

I bet that the creators of Luke Cage, Black Panther, Falcon, Static, John Stewart, Black Lightning, Invisible Kid II, Cyborg, Blade, Storm and all those other great black heroes must be pissed that everyone is acting as if those guys were never made and Miles is the first damn black hero ever.

>>29643807
Mixed folk liked other Mixed folk getting ahead.
Yes we're like that too.

>>29643886
Miles is the second latin Spidey yet the first black.

>>29643807
In other words, they are saying they finally have a popular A lister hero (even if he's not from the real Marvel U) that they can aspire to be and like.

Powerman? Sweet christmas, unpopular.
Black Panther? Who?
Al Simmons? Dead and being a murderer and child killer,not something to aspire to be.
John Stewart? Oh, the guy from JLU? One of thousands of GL?
Storm? "What happens when you hit a toad with lightning?"
War Machine? Oh, the guy who rides one of Iron Man's suits?

Not much to choose from here.

Hey I'm fine with this, why don't we make Luke Cage some white guy on top of all this? And lets make Captain Britain Asian. Also, Aquaman gets to be Irish and Starfire is from Peru, why the fuck not?

>his costume is black

Why.