lol no way, bendis has 2 african kids?

I look forward to seeing where Bendis is going with this

it will sell poorly and people will be called rascist left and right

I think I'm ready to read Fallout #4 already.

Bendis is Jewish?

This explain a lot

I read it. Ultimate Kangaroo is a badass.

I'm looking forward to Spider Island more than this.

Oh fuck, did they have to make him nerdy?

I'm not saying make him a retard (DASRACIST) but just...come on. PETER'S THING was being a nerdy high schooler, even after he wasn't even in high school.

Maybe by nerdy they mean he'll be not popular/like video games? That's cool by me, just don't make it a big deal. Like he's just not very well liked by fellow students. Totally fine.

Just DO NOT make him a science nerd. That'd just be fucking stupid.

Did everyone get this upset when they revealed John Stewart?

>Spidey writer Brian Michael Bendis is Jewish and has two adopted children from Africa

Just as planned...

>>28370630
Did they kill someone off to introduce him?
Was that person Peter Fucking Parker?
No? Shut up.

>Average teenager Miles Morales was bitten by a radioactive Peter Parker while on a school field trip. This turned him into Spidermanman, with the ability to shoot webs, climb walls, and the proportional strength of a Spiderman

>>28370630
Probably. Also Jaime Reyes.

Basically any character that isn't white. Doesn't matter if it's a legacy character, an old character, or a new character. Retards will accuse it of being overly PC.

>>28370687
Would the proportional strength of a Spider-Man make him even stronger than Spider-Man?

Also I just feel like bringing up Radioactive Semen because it feels appropriate right now.

>>28370654

Pushing the zionist agenda one step at the time

>>28370712
>Would the proportional strength of a Spider-Man make him even stronger than Spider-Man?
Only if he's larger.

>People still crying about candy ass Peter Parker

Miguel O' Hara, Ben Reilly are better Spider Men then Parker. This kid probably will be too.

Fucking Deal With It

He was actually a common spider bitten by a radioactive african-american and then bitten again by a radioactive latino.

I know, the odds man .. the odds.

okay wait
has Bendis legally adopted two kids from Africa who now live in his house?

Or every month does he donate 5 dollars to help raise two starving African kids?

>miles morales
I... what?

That's the best alliterative name they could come up with?

>>28370674
They didn't kill Peter just for this character. They were going to do that anyway.

Just like Ted Kord as the Blue Beetle. The replacement character was in the works because they needed one but he wasn't the reason for it.

>>28370748
The former.

>>28370756
He is gonna be Miguel O'Hara's great grandfather.

>>28370760
Don't even bother. People were saying Cap was killed for Civil War despite Brubaker saying he was going to do it anyway and was one of the reasons why Bucky was brought back in the earlier arc

>>28370765
I'm flabbergasted.

>>28370783
So...looking at where things are now...why the fuck did they bother doing any of it?

>>28370816
Why?

>>28370816
Not really surprising, he's a typical anti-white kike faggot

>>28370838
Because it was a great story.

Instead of killing characters off and making them black, can't they just make some new characters who are black instead?

Stupid marvel.

>>28370852
Cause I thought only celebrities adopted foreign kids.

And my aunt and uncle, who adopted some girl from south america.

idunno, it just didn't seem like him

>>28370877
This is a new character.

>>28370877
He is a new character. The thing is that Bendis felt like a knockoff Spider man would be competing with Peter so he got rid off thanks to an idea from Millar who really does not give a fuck about anything

>>28370838
It worked for the time but things last 20 issues tops in comic books so it got undone. Personally Batman and Cap would've been gone for 10 years and Dark Reign would've lasted another 2-3 years if I was in charge.

The one thing that's stuck recently is the no marriage with Peter and MJ but I'm pretty sure that's getting reset around issue 700 anyway which is like what in 3 years with the bi monthly thing?

>>28370940
Just because it doesn't last forever doesn't make the story any less good. 'The Death of Captain America' arc was 18 issues long and it was epic. I don't care if he came back. It was good when I read it and it will remain good for all time.

>Replacing Peter Parker with a nigger, instead of just ending the Spiderman series.
NOPE

>>28370744
I agree with you if you are referring to 616 Parker.

Actually, this poster sums it up for me, picture highly related.

>>28370973
I'm not saying that. I'm saying with a new status quo you could've continued on with different types of stories at least a little longer than what we had. But I also read alot of fans were complaining and sales weren;t good for some books that do well so yeah.

>>28370518
how did he get spider powers?

>>28370987
616 Parker is all of those things that Ultimate Peter was. You guys are still ass pained about OMD to the point where it makes you look crazy.

>>28371018
616 is a joke, and has been for a long time.

THE BROWN RECLUSE.

>>28370877
Miles Morales is a new character.

Or if you mean, 'couldn't they have made him unconnected to Spider-Man', the answer is no, because regardless of race, people don't buy new characters. That's why you fucking have Spider-Man and Wolverine sometimes appearing on the cover of comics they're not actually in. People buy familiarity, and that's why tying in someone to an existing popular character is pretty much the only way to make them sell.

Or shove them onto a team book, but the team book ALSO won't sell if it's not connected to something comics readers don't already know. For a 616 example, see Avengers Academy. Think any member of that could make enough sales with a book of their own? Not happening. Hell, the book would probably be cancelled early if it had nothing to do with Avengers.

>>28370987
>blaming fictional characters for other fictional character deaths to the point where you boycott their film

>>28370987
>he actually boycotted the Captain America movie
>Spider-man, Spiderman
what a faggot

>>28371030
Why because he left his super model wife? I mean really now, not every issue is golden but alot of good things have come out of BND

NIGGERS! IN MY SPIDERMAN? UNACCEPTABLE!

>>28370975
I take it you don't know the difference between 616 and the Ultimate universe.

>>28371031
hah, thats good

>>28370987
This is somewhat pathetic.

>luderc eugenics

>>28371030
>616 is a joke, and has been for a long time.
Really? When did it turn into one?

>>28371030
>implying ultimate uni is better

so is he gonna fight aids?

on account of hes gay and black?

I've got $10 that says due to his complicated cultural heritage, no artist will be able to consistently draw him, and by 2013 we'll have no less than 6 different facial appearances on this guy.

Also, I guess I'm not Reading Ultimate Spiderman anymore.

>>28371086
He's not gay.
He will fight a mutant that can give people aids

>>28371030
That doesn't change the fact that 616 Peter is kind, intellgent, resourceful,etc just like Ultimate Peter. They're the same kid except one was younger and the other older.

>>28371101
>implying that doesn't happen to other characters drawn by multiple artists

>>28371000
>>28371000
>>28371000
>>28371000
>>28371000

>>28370536
Are you kidding me? Do you know NOTHING about marketing? The first floppy will break 100,000 issues, and I'd be ready to bet it will break the 125,000 issues easy.

>>28371114
thats the thing i guess isnt it

616 is a man child
ultimate is a child

>>28371043
Remember Young Allies? Had a few previously known heroes working as a team. Cancelled by issue 6. Funny thing is they even solicited it and everything but it never came out

>>28371000
I'm sure it will be told in Ultimate Comics All New Spider-Man #1 in September.

TOLD YALL I WAS GON BE SPIDEY

>>28371134
>Man child
>Has a job that works for his character for the first time in forever
>Has a girlfriend that can take care of herself and has a legit job
>STopped the loner hero shit and joined several teams
>Pays his rent

The guy's on the up and up bro. You'd know that if you read some good comics

>>28370630
Oh God, yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16sKK-1oLQ

>>28371160
this is all recently

>>28371138
Dude, it never even got that final sixth issue? Holy shit that's just sad.

Yeah, it had Arana, who I really liked, and a couple others, but NO SPIDER-MAN, NO WOLVERINE, NO AVENGERS, NO BUY.

>implying Ultimate Marvel matters anymore
It pretty much matters just as much as "What If" comics at this point. And you can thank Jeph Loeb for that.

SipderMAN is way too sexist, they should rename him to Spiderperson.

>>28371160
>Spider-man
>good comics
laughingelfman.jpg

>>28371210
Yeah since it's the leading comic in the universe Marvel bases most of their films and animated shows off of.

>>28371210
It's just the line with some of the best selling comics Marvel puts out.

>>28371271

>>28371247
Yeah bases their films off of Ultimate Marvel. Surre buddy.

Ultimate Marvel's influence has only been skin deep with stuff like Sam Jackson Nick Fury. The actual events and story lines are based on 616.

>>28371171
Is this the guy who had Black Panther put the Silver Surfer in an arm lock?

>>28371210
So it doesn't matter because Loeb had the balls to clean house and make things different in an AU? Really now?

>>28371183
What does that change? Peter Parker has been a bum for like ever. even before BONG. There were tons of times when MJ was nagging him about cash and he left school because DERP DERP SPIDAMAN. He even had to move in with Aunt Anna because they were always poor.

JMS gave him some respectability but he threw that away due to Civil War (though he did have him leave MJ for like hours for some Spider man shit the same day he found her after thinking she was dead for like a year)

Now he has some legitimacy and doesn't come off as total faggot

>>28371449
>had the balls to clean house and make things different in an AU?
His intentions might have been well meant, but the execution was terrible.
Not that I agree with the guy you're responding to. The Ultimate line is back to being pretty great, and will be even better now that Hickman's on Ultimates and Spencer on Ult. X-Men

tokenism is the death of comics.

there is no reason to make characters who aren't white. if the story would work just as well with a white guy than with a nigger, then why have you made him black? the answer: to fit your imaginary black person liberal quota.

>>28371488
Yeah there were some iffy parts but Loeb did more good then bad IMO. He basically put the Xmen and F4 out of their misery and dumped underused heroes like Daredevil and Dr. Strange so someone could come in and do what they want with those titles.

>>28371297
You know sales number are actually out on the Internet and can be checked out? None of the stuff put out under the Ultimate line ever came close to the cancellation line and some months USM and Ultimates/Ultimate Avengers competed with their 616 counterparts.

I don't read any ultimate stuff, and don't have a problem with another character taking on the role of Spiderman. However, as a completely outside observer, this seems like a really hamfisted attempt to appeal to minorities who don't read comics.

I think it has to do with the whole black AND latino thing. Like it wouldn't bother me if he was one or the other, but it just feels like a bunch of guys were sitting around a table and said, 'Hey, lets make the new spiderman black, that way black kids will want to read this book, changing face of America and all that. You know, the old spice guy?' they all nod in agreement and then another guy says 'Well, there are more mexicans than black people out there, so... Why don't we make him mexican?' Then I imagine it all dawns on them at once 'WHY NOT BOTH!?'.

And here we are.

>>28371499
And what if the story works better if the character comes from an ethnic background?

>>28371499
That could easily go the other way. Why does white have to = default?

>>28371516
It's like you think black-hispanics are rare or something.

>>28371516
>Black/Spanish mix is common as fuck in NY
>Must be doing it for the sole purpose of PR

>>28371527
This, seriously. Like, especially in New York. Guys with two white parents are getting to be less common than them.

>>28371510
I don't think anyone besides the foaming at the mouth "Status Quo Is God" fanboy said that the idea behind Ultimatum wasn't sound. But for fuck's sake, the execution was terrible.

>>28371516
It's a common thing, I myself am Black, Chinese, Ecuadorian and Native American and I live in NY.

>>28371516
You know Bendis has like, almost complete creative control over USM right?
This wasn't a committee decision.

>>28371516

There's nothing unusual about black/Latino mixes, though. Pretty common in the Caribbean and NYC and other large cities.

No matter what Bendis would've done, it would be seen as a PR stunt

Killing Spider Man? A stunt
Making a new guy in the suit? A stunt
Making the new kid a minority? A stunt

It's like fuck you for trying to change things up and move in a new direction you should keep shit the same forever otherwise you're a gimmicky bastard

>>28371559
>almost
You mean the artist can give some advice, yeah?

>>28370518
>blacks
>hispanics
>part of the cultural heritage of the united states

I mean they live here and all... but relevant to the CULTURE of the United states? LOLNO. If anything hispanic culture has been corrupted by the American culture, and black culture has been nearly destroyed by it.

>>28371565
>It's like fuck you for trying to change things up and move in a new direction you should keep shit the same forever otherwise you're a gimmicky bastard
The cape comic industry bred those kind of fans. I came to superhero comics from more indie American, European and Japanese stuff and this train of thought always baffled me.

>>28371565
Making a character Ethnic or Female is the gold standard of the Comics Industry because they have no creativity

>>28371551
I can't remmeber much about it but I do remmeber thinking they were cramming so many deaths in like 6 issues. It felt rushed as hell.

and Ultimates 3 was also pretty random and set it up. I was cool with Magneto saying fuck this shit after his kids died but love sick robots and sex tapes? What?

I'm predominantly Scottish and French. I'm so white I make snow look like tar. I'm so white, not only can I not dance, but no one can dance within ten feet of me without looking like an epileptic.

The new Spider-Man is a good idea. I don't know about the execution, since I don't read Ultimates, but I still think it's good in theory. He's from a part of New York that's mostly black and Hispanic, right? It makes sense for him to be a non-white, then. Besides, white people are getting bred out by everybody else. Much like what we did to the Indians after we grabbed all their land. I figure we had it coming.

It's a new dynamic for Spider-Man and the 1616 universe which was getting too close to being like 616, It's already way better than DC's Earth-D Superman, at least thought went into this and Marvel is putting the future of the Ultimate line on the fate of the new Spidey.

>>28370688
>jaime reyes
>not white

I can't find a good picture of him, but half of all mexicans in America are white-Mexican. So you'll have to excuse me if I scoff at him being labeled instantly non-white by someone like you. Also most of the non-white mexicans are recent immigrants from the past 40 years.

So how did Peter die anyway?

>>28371613
>I'm so white, not only can I not dance, but no one can dance within ten feet of me without looking like an epileptic.


LOLOLOLOL

>>28371624
They put him in a cage match with Batman, with the conditions that whoever lost would be replaced with a black guy.

Batman won. He wasn't replaced with a black man. Yet.

>>28371622
>Can't find a good picture of Jaime Reyes

Jesus christ, google. And Jaime is definitely not white-hispanic, like, say, Louis C.K. is.

>>28371613
>Besides, white people are getting bred out by everybody else. Much like what we did to the Indians after we grabbed all their land. I figure we had it coming.

No, we aren't
They should've fought harder if they wanted that land
And kill yourself right now you fucking frog

>>28371596
So they shouldn't make new characters that are ethnic or female?

I mean all of their big stars are white males so what other option do you have to shake things up besides adding females and/or minorities?

I didn't give a fuck about Ultimate Spidey, and I don't think I'll give a fuck now, either.

>>28371622
Seriously. I'm half-Mexican myself, but I'm whitey as fuck.

>>28371639
ALL OF THEM ARE PICTURES OF BLUE BEATLE IN COSTUME

But anyway I'm getting really fucking tired of /co/ thinking all hispanics=not white

>>28371641
It's racist to believe that someone's race affects them as a person. Culture tells us that we're supposed to assume people are the same inside, regardless of race.

You should only be able to replace men with women and vice versa.

>>28371640
Vous colère?

>>28371669
Is that, like, Russian for "you mad" or something?

>>28371673
Il colère.

>>28371589
This.

When Superman died? They wanted Clark back
When Bruce got crippled? They wanted him back
When Cap died? People were crying about Bucky and his gun
When Batman died? People were whining about Bruce (less so though since they showed he was still alive in the books and thus confirmed for a temp thing)
When Scarlet Spider came to town? They wanted Peter back
When Brock dropped the Symbiote? They wanted him back

>>28371663
Of course race affects you as a person. Maybe not in the future when we're all smoking the peace pipe and united against aliens but now? yes it does.

>>28371641
>So they shouldn't make new characters that are ethnic or female?

They shouldn't make new characters of already existing heroes that are either ethnic or female just for the sake of it, they should be creative and make something new

>>28370688
Funny thing is, Jaime's won people over. He's pretty well liked now, even though the initial reaction was to hate him. Given the chance, I could see Miles pulling the same trick.

>>28371673
>2011
>Not knowing/recognizing a romance language other than English
I seriously hope you guys aren't really like this.

>Comment number 36.
>nuvalori
>3 Hours ago

>this is ridiculous, i have been a fan of >spiderman since he started.
>Everyone knows Peter Parker is spiderman not >some black latino.
>Why can't they let have his own idenity.
>They will probably give us a Asian Batman next.

>>28371678
I've always thought it was one of the cool, unique things of the "comicbook" medium, that well-known characters tend to have an epic-length (I mean this in the most literal sense of the word "epic") career span.

>>28371702
>2011
>Not knowing that English is a Germanic language with a lot of loanwords thrown in from Romantic languages.
I seriously hope you guys aren't like this.

>>28371663
Culture is partially a product of race

East Asians are genetically less likely to be creative, hence their culture is more likely to be traditional.

Other such genetics affect culture as a whole. If I had to guess, black people are probably genetically better at rhythm at other races, hence the obsession with music the black people seem to have and their many, many successes in the field of music. Saying "RACE IS JUST A SKIN COLOR, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL" is like saying x breed of dog isn't smarter than y breed even though x breed was specifically bred to be a smart kind of dog while y was bred for it's size.

>>28371696
1. He is new. It's not black Peter Parker. It's Miles Morales

2. They're not going to make a new superhero identity. That's like dumping your brand name. Trying to make a new superhero in this industry is very hard especially in an established universe.

>>28371678
>When Scarlet Spider came to town? They wanted Peter back

No, go google this shit but the writer doing the clone saga took years to do it and the guy getting ready to launch the Scarlet Spider line just up and left because he felt he was being jerked around. Would of ended up with peter coming back regardless because fans don't like change in their dying industry

>>28371695
I'd like to agree with you, but that would make me a racist like you.

>>28371527
>>28371532
>>28371540
>>28371556
>>28371562
>>28371559

>Anon posts about how black spiderman feels like a totally market driven decision to appeal to a different racial or ethnic group
>/co/ basically agrees by pointing out that everyone currently browsing is black-latino

>>28371720
>East Asians are genetically less likely to be creative, hence their culture is more likely to be traditional.
>Yet Japan shits all over our entertainment all day every day

>>28371737
I'm white.

>>28371718
Oh, hell, you know what I mean. Cut me some slack; it's 6:30 and I haven't slept. Least I still differentiate between French and Russain, which was my point to begin with,

>>28371720
Okay, even you have to admit that your post was pretty racist.

I mean, just look at it.

Do you think I could look at two identical applications for a creative writer, one white, the other east Asian, and tell the Asian to his face, "I'm not hiring you, because you are genetically predisposed to being bad at this job."? I'd get sued in a heartbeat.

>>28371695
In the future when we are fighting aliens we will probably have genetic manipulation, so since a great many africans and asians and mestizos are whiteaboos we will see a lot of race swapping. The treatments will be expensive, so stupid white teens who want to feel "tough" won't be able to swap to a "tougher" race.

>>28371749
*Russian

>>28371749
>Cut me some slack
NEVER. 4chan is a place where intelligent people come to have serious, intelligent discussions!

>>28371753
It wasn't racist. You're just being a fucktard. I said race, as in millions and millions of people. Not Joey Li, random asian guy who happens to be a supernova of creativity. Outliers prove nothing.

>>28371733
I'm not being racist. But your experiences as an Indian woman are going to shape your view in a different way then a White man. The thing is that you should learn about these differences, accept them and work together.

>As a black male I'm a little conflicted by this. Certainly it's appropriate to include superheroes from non-white backgrounds but Spiderman is an institution. Granted Peter Parker has been "killed off" but comic book fans are used to the lineage being passed down to a sibling or relative. Very interesting if it's been done for the right reasons, appalling if it's just a marketing ploy.

>comic book fans are used to the lineage being passed down to a sibling or relative

We are?

>>28371749
If it makes you feel better, I was the guy who asked if it was Russian, and I studied Italian (along with French, Spanish, and German).

I was being ironic. Russian uses Cyrillic. It would be hard to mistake.

>>28370518
As expected the news website makes no mention of 616 vs. Ultimate.

>>28371779
Exactly. Being a woman is different from being a man. I said that was okay before, remember?

>>28371786
It would. Cyrillic is a much cooler-looking alphabet than the Latin one.

>>28371799
>implying this doesn't apply to different ethnicities/nationlities/orientation same gender as well

>>28371743
>japanese entertainment is based on being cheap and using time-tested techniques and tropes that are proven to sell
>the japanese entertainment industry is slowly dying as a result

Japan innovated because the emperor and other elites, who would've been smarter on a genetic level than most peasants and just plain more educated that any dumb peasant, all realized that if Japan did not westernize it's military and society then the west would gobble japan up like a delicious snack.

In the present time, Japan, the Eastern juggernaut from 1946-2010 is continuing to lose ground to china because the japanese as a whole simply cannot get their heads around the amazing idea that what worked in 1950 isn't working in 2011. Even their society is decaying due to traditionalism- herbivore boys who are afraid of girls because- FUCKING GASP- girls have jobs and aren't totally reliant on their husbands anymore!

>>28371772
So you're either saying...

A) Superheroes are outliers. Their race is nothing but cosmetic, because outliers mean nothing, and their race has no effect on them.

OR

B) It is okay to hire individuals with similar backgrounds based on race. If someone who is Asian applies for the same job as a Caucasian, and they have similar resumes, I should favor the Caucasian. Despite the fact that they are both unique outliers, race has a profound effect on who you are as a person.

>>28371813
Not only am I implying it, I'm saying it.

Well, except for nationality and orientation. Those are also acceptable things to differentiate on.

>>28371780
As someone who doesn't read comics, if they wanted a new Spiderman then they should've built Miles up as Spiderboy first. Then Peter tragically dies to an asshole and miles is like "yooooooooooooooooo" and is like "we bros 4 lyfe if you died i woudn't be at yo funeral be cuz i would be in jail for shootin the guy who shot you".

>implying race exists and isn't a concept from the colonial period which has since been discounted by the scientific community

>>28371818
What does women working have to do with the entertainment industry? there are tons of female Mangaka and 2 I know of are famous for loliporn

>>28371820
>trying to beat proven science with leftist retardgument techniques

Hire who the law requires you to hire. Suck my dick and science's dick.

Also it's amusing that evolution and different breeds of stupid animals being endangered are both GOD to leftists, but when it comes to "race may actually affect what you can do and want to do" SUDDENLY IT'S EVIL AND PSEUDO-SCIENCE AND SOCIAL DARWINISM OH MY! Grow the fuck up. Equality for all means equality before the law, not "OH MAN I'M AS SMART AS STEPHEN MOTHERFUCKING HAWKING BECAUSE EQUALITY TOLD ME SO".

>>28371835
Race plays factors in how you interact with others in society and ultimately this effects how you will develop.

It's up to the person how they may feel about that. But no, we're not all the same even if we share some things like gender, or religion,etc

>>28371873
>>28371842
>>28371780

>>28371848
>race
>a term for different breeds of human
>race doesn't exist for leftists because it implies that everyone isn't exactly the same, even though we all realize Einstein was much smarter than us

Also as an ethnic group Jews are probably smarter than the average white person. I'll probably bow out because idiots who talk forever about how great evolution is but can't stand the thought that maybe humans continents apart evolved in different directions are going to come in and bitch about human evolution being a pseudo-science and a fraud, because humans were always perfect and equal.

>>28371873
>mfw I'm a conservative Protestant

Deal with it.

I think this shit doesn't matter, the Ultimate Universe is dead, and I wish non-/co/mrades would get off the board about this already.

>>28371898
>U Uni is dead
>still selling like hot cakes

>2011
>people thinking the idea of people being different races is inherently racist and supremacist

I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>28371906
Do hot cakes sell well?

>>28371897
>my face when that is completely fucking irrelevant to what I was saying

Actually it might be relevant if you are a fucktard who believes in creationism and Eden, because then you would think all humans really were created equal by your god.

Why couldn't the new spiderman have been a white minority, like a slav or something?

>>28371911
Ultimate Hotcakes moves 200k issues a month.

>>28371911
They do when they're not being stolen by Luthor

>>28371898
>Ultimate Universe dead
>being relaunched with three powerful creative teams
>sells well even now

Sure thing buddy

>>28371927
He could've been a Slav, but then we'd just get Russian Guyovich foneteek akzent in every panel.

>>28371911
No they don't really.
Latest statistics I can find, Ultimate Spider-Man was outsold by Moonknight.
Now obviously they've shot up with the death of spider-man but, then you got Ultimate Avengers way down the list, and...that's it.
The Ultimate Universe is able to support two titles right now. Two titles that are competing against Moon Knight and Venom.

>>28371923
Are you sure?

>trying to beat proven science with leftist retardgument techniques

Hire who the law requires you to hire. Suck my dick and science's dick.

>Also it's amusing that evolution and different breeds of stupid animals being endangered are both GOD to leftists

If these sound like someone jibbering for ad hominem, then flailing about when his intended target isn't actually part of the left, you might take a second to realize that you are probably tired and angry. Get some sleep or grab a coffee. /co/ is love, bro.

Spiderman, more like Niggerkid

>mfw white americans are more genetically similar to black americans than obama

Thanks for bringing it up, man, I hadn't heard about this.

>>28371923
>Thinking Protestants believe all are equal in the eyes of God
>Doesn't know shit about the Calvinist master race

Not that guy, but enjoy your predestined hellfire. You jelly of my salvation based entirely on arbitrary judgments passed by an all-knowing creator before the beginning of time?

>mfw marvelfags confirmed for being white trash

>>28372009
Islam is better. You die and spend eternity banging virgins.

>Zigmund posting a new spiderman thread on /co/
fuck off back to /sp/

>>28372029
>Islam is better
>no bacon
>no wiener schnitzel
>no alcohol

LOL

The BBC commenters are much more sane than most commenters on the american news sites.

>>28372029
Why would you want virgins, though?

That would be like, "Your reward for service is... you get to sleep with 72 anons from /co/. For all eternity."

who giveth a shit?
I swear to god you comic fanboys get excited over the most mundane and meaningless shit

>>28372060
American here. I use the IHT for my British news, and the BBC for my American news.

I prefer publications with less of a motive for bias.

>>28372050
>>28372070
>foreveralone.jpg

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-03/one-piece-manga-no.63-gets-record-3.9-million-pr
int-run

Who cares? Japan wins again

>>28371873
Have you found empirical evidence that isolates specific genes or genetic patterns to traits in a general group which we socially designate as a "race?" No? Then fuck off.

I'm not challenging Darwin's theory, but it has yet to be proven to apply to the traits of races in the way we think it does. At this point enculturation/socialization is at least as much of a factor.


On that note, I really fail to see why this is a big deal to begin with. We have 616-Peter for the "purists," we have an animated version of Ultimate Spider-Man that is more than likely to star Peter Parker for fans of the original character, and we have Andrew Garfield trying to shake off every bit of non-dominant culture ethnicity he has for the new movie. This new Spider-Man seems like barely even a sideshow.

>>28371930
Estimated Sales for April 2011.
>Ultimate Comics Spider-Man 50,896
>Ultimate Avengers Vs New Ultimates 43,822
>Ultimate Comics Captain America 26,332
>121,050
Estimated Sales for May 2011
>Ultimate Comics Spider-Man 47,941
>Ultimate Avengers Vs New Ultimates 43,707
>91,648
Comics with "Green Lantern" in their title that month:
>189,306

>>28372099
>240 million copies of the entire manga series have been printed

Damn

Why couldn't he be just black or just latino? I don't get this fixation people have in making their characters "not too foreign".

>Get mad at writers for blatantly saying that they're just trying to be politically correct
>Get called an ignorant, racist son of a bitch

I hate this world.

>>28372134
People keep asking this, and I keep wondering, why not? How many mixed race superheroes are there? With more mixed race people being born all the time, there's room for at least one such individual in the superhero community.

>>28372165
Nobody is calling you racist because you disagree with the character choice, they're calling you racist because you keep expressing your opinion by calling him a nigger and making stupid jokes.

>>28372120

There were three titles for Green Lantern at the time, right? And those months were during the War of the Green Lanterns bullshit.

>>28372120
Estimated Sales for Naruto vol 55
A billion copies

>>28372189

>Implying I was one of those people.

>>28372089
I'd rather be eating my schnitzel and drinking my beer foreveralone than be a crazy terrorist

>>28372165
Well, when all the media cares about is the fact that he's black it's hard to not seem blatant. You're racist because you get mad at something without reading the comics first and seeing whether or not they're good. And trust me, you are racist.

I think it's AWESOME.

Seriously. I can't wait.

>>28372165
At what point did Bendis blatantly or even imply he was trying to be PC

>>28372247
Not black.

Half-black, half-latino!

im a muslim and i believe in god..
he thoroughly hates me.

my life is proof..
anyway hope it makes your day

>>28372283
When he made the new character a minority

once again

If you do anything different from the usual, you're doing it for PR.

http://freakoutnation.com/2011/08/03/glenn-becks-newest-conspiracy-spiderman-is-black-hispanic-which
-is-michele-obamas-fault/

>>28372335
Oh ok.

You're not racist, you're just fucking stupid.

>getting upset over something that's happening in the Ultimate Universe

I only read the first few USM trades so I'm not familiar with it, but didn't they make Iron Man a Mexican at one point?

>>28372340
WELCOME TO OBAMA

>>28371636

>Black Batman

That would be the coolest shit ever, Wow.

>>28372344
> didn't they make Iron Man a Mexican at one point?
Where did you get that idiocy from?

>>28372344
no

>>28372344
No, but that'd be cool.

>>28372343
No. I'm not that guy. I'm saying this is how people think.

It's a PR stunt if you change things up in superhero comics.

Wolverine has a son now? PR stunt
Spawn got killed and a white guy took his spot? PR stunt
Hulk loses his pants when he Hulks out now? PR stunt

>>28372370
>>28372374

His mother's name was Maria Cerrera. That's gotta be some kind of Hispanic.

>>28372348
YOU RACIST FUCK, I BET YOU BEAT YOU'RE WIFE EVERYDAY WHEN YOU GET BACK HOME FROM GETTING DRUNK AND HAVING BUTT SEX WITH YOUR COUSIN JOE-BOB

>>28372387

>Hulk loses his pants when he Hulks out now? PR stunt

EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO APPEAL TO THE PANTLESS CROWN WITH THAT MOVE

fuck this bullshit

its not his skin color that makes him spider man, its his story, its uncle ben, mary jane, gwen, aunt may, JJJ, the daily bugle, his enemys, etc, yeah every super hero was at some point replaced by another, but the originals eventually returned because people did not like it, what they are doing to spidey was from those crappy business decisions to get more sales, and stir the waters in the comic, most people dont like this not because of some racial or homophobic bull shit

As a comic book reader since 1975, I can say that changing storylines in comics has always caused controversy. However, as with Superman's death, Batman having his back broken, Green Arrow getting a projectile in his head, etc, the series always carries on. Comic book readers are fickle, however, and may petition for a return to the norm. Don't panic, people - it's not real life.

>>28372476 but the originals eventually returned because people did not like it
You make it sound like this was a good thing.

Apparently in the comics he turns gay, anyone can confirm this?

>>28372476

No, you know what made Ultimate Spider-man good? Brian Michael Bendis. And he's not going anywhere, so why don't you calm the fuck down.

I enjoy when the hero is killed or replaced or whatever and a new one takes their spot. I enjoyed Bucky Cap and DickBat

I enjoyed Scarlet Spider and Crazy French Batman

I've read the first story with this kid thanks to a kind anon who scanned it and enjoyed it

Kudos to Bendis and co. for doing something different

>>28370518
>Blacks
>Rich cultural heritage
Oh where to begin with this?

>>28372513
Just don't reply to this guys. Just don't.

>>28372476

pfft why are you and other faggot freaking out?

Original super heroe never die. They'll just come up with some shitty excuse and bring him back

"ERRR I WASN'T DEAD, LOL. JUST IN ANOTHER DIMENSION. IT WAS ALL PARTY OF THE PLAN"

Chill out, you know it to be true

>>28372493
and it is,
peter parker is spiderman
clark kent is superman
steven rogers is captain america
logan is wolverine
etc

>>28372370
>>28372374
>>28372383

Looks like NOBODY read Ultimate Iron Man.

>>28372550
Not having this conversation again.
Fuck you and people like you for stagnating cape comics.

>>28372550

Ah, so you're one of THOSE comic fans.

>>28372529
>sage a comic thread
Anyway with a quick google i figured the answer. yes

>>28372565

No he isn't, you muppet.

At first... it was hard for me to accept a minority Spider-Man. Not for any inherent racism, but because since the age of 5, I've idolized Spider-Man. Every comic, every cartoon, every novel, every video game I could get my hands on I'd cherish. I did so, because I saw myself. The skinny guy who strives to do his best, the kid who learned the hard way what relation exists between power and responsibility.
Since that young age, I'd pretend/hope/believe that my hero and I were close to being one and the same. This hit home a lot harder when the Ultimate line came out. Here was a Peter Parker who was the same age as me, going through a whole lot of awkward changes as well.
Sure Ultimatum came, and fucked up the ultimate universe, but Spidey was still a big factor.
Now, immediately after seeing the news of Miles Morales being declared the new webbed wonder in town, I was a bit pissed. Sure, the obvious racist thoughts were the first to come to mind, but those were quickly brushed aside, and for the reasons stated in earlier, were replaced by disappointment. This is the first time I felt that Spider-Man was a truly different, separate person (which is saying something, if anyone here recognizes the name Pavitr Prabhakar.)
But the more I think about it, the more time I have to process, and the more information I can glean from the web (world wide), the more I'm willing to give this character a chance. He has his own costume, his own set of powers and challenges, and, god willing, a different attitude to separate himself from Parker. For the first time it feels like I'm on the outside, looking in.
I fear that I may lose interest, but if I don't even give it, or rather Miles, a chance, how could I call myself one of the ultimate fans?

>>28372565
>he thinks an off-hand remark by the artist confirms anything about the new character

I've never been into Spider Man, honestly.

I kind of liked him as a kid but as an adult I couldn't get into him.

This is probably the first time I'm interested in the comics. I'm hoping this new guy isn't the same. Gonna check it out.

>>28372563
Oh shut the hell up comics are stagnating because of lack of good writers and good storys and not because hero A is replaced by fucktard B you fucking idiot

>>28372557
If you mean that origin series by like Orson Welles or whoever it was written off as a tv show for kids and not an actual origin for Tony

>>28372585
There are plenty of good writers.
Lack of good stories is certainly true though. Want to know why there's a lack of good stories?
Because we've got the same fucking characters we had in the 60s.

>>28372585
and because little neckbeards cry everytime the writers do anything different

>>28372578
>>28372572
Too easy...

>>28372587

Yes, it took place in the Ultimate Universe. Same thing with mixed-race Spider-Man. Which means neither of them actually matter.

This is only the beginning. Soon other companies will start doing this. We'll have Japanese Bruce Wayne, Chinese Cyclops, Trinidadian Wonder Woman etc.

How do you say "BEHOLD OPTIC BLAST!" in Chinese?

>>28372628

Nah, the Ultimate Iron Man series by Orson Scott Card was retconned as a TV series by Mark Millar

>>28372641

I really don't give a shit. I think it'd be awesome.

Long as they're all written well, it'd be dandy.

ITT: Lots of people think this means that 616 Peter is dead. Noone realises how dead and done UM is.

It was a cool series but it's not going anywhere for the moment so just lay off. This is an interesting direction for it to take and we still have 616 Peter so who gives a fuck?

>>28372628
I don't get this notion. They're both ficitonal universes with fictional characters. Why does one matter more than the other?

This thread goes to prove my theory that racism will end when all the white people die.

>>28372661
It's so dead and done that it's being relaunched with Marvel's best writers.

>>28372669

lol, feel you.

>>28372647
That ironman was retarded, so it was a good idea.

>>28372669
> racism will end when all the white people die.
A bit hypocritical.
I ain't even White.

>>28372659
Why do marvel employees post here to promote their shitty comic and try to influence people into thinking everything will be all right? Get the fuck out.

>>28372610
>>28372612
yeah yeah keep telling yourselves that, when this shit gets cancelled you can go cry a river up your ass.
this decision was just retarded and thats the truth, and just because the character is from the 60s doesnt change the fact that the writers now have a serious lack of originality and decided to go for a idiotic copout.

>Making characters black/not-white as a decleration "HEY GUYS WE AINT RACIST! SEE?"

>>28372557
I didn't realize he was supposed to be Mexican. I was way to distracted by all the horseshit that was going. Jesus was that series bad. And it was my first-ever Ultimate book I read too. Good thing I tried other Ultimate stories after that.

ITT: EVERYBODY'S GETTING MAD.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT


I know about Miles.
I know hes blacktino.
I know hes possibly gay
I know hes the new spiderman.


But Peter Parker is dead?!

>>28372704

Marvel has more minority-led comics than DC.

Just sayin.

>>28372717
In the Ultimate universe yes.

>>28372725
How many times must this be repeated? Goddamn.

>>28372700
USM started 10 years ago. He is based off of the original one but Bendis was doing his own zany shit with him

You are judging the creative ability of the writer simply because he swapped in a new hero? Really?

Why can't mods just sticky this?

I'll accept all of this.
The moment Black Panther becomes a white man.
I want a white texan boy come of age and begin training to be the Black Panther and defeat the current holder of the Title.AND if it is written by Hudlin.

When this happens, I will no longer whine anymore, EVER. I will accept diversity with arms wideopen.

>>28372717
Slowpoke evolved to Slowbro!
Slowbro evolved to Slowking!

>>28372741

Because mods are racist.

I can't wait till they shoehorn miles with Mary Jane. I want to see him balls deep in that white bitch.

>>28372700 writers now have a serious lack of originality
Indeed. Hence they bring back the same characters over and over.

>>28372742

>>28372742

Spawn was killed and is now a white guy.

I can't wait for this. I never liked Peter Parker.

I felt he was some sort of dated 90s flippant character.

Once grew past 14 years of age I couldn't get into fucking Spider Man

I hope to hell this guy isn't the same.

>>28372744
I'm the cartoon side of /co/. I love comics but I can't keep up.

I, for one, am OFFENDED that there aren't more half-black half-latino characters that aren't versions of WHITE characters. Because the fact that comic books work on legacies is TOTALLY OFFENSIVE.
-tumblrfangirl

>>28372753
>MJ
>not Gwen

MJ's had her time in the spotlight, methinks. Mary Jane will be too busy toppling Nick Fury's ivory tower of death.

>>28372742
That will never happen and you know it.

how many marvel universes are there?

>>28372763

Yeah, but Spawn is dumb.

>>28372775
A lot.

dudes peter will come back, hes just ina coma ina shield controlled hospital somewhere, and when this new stupid sipdey wanabee dies hes gonna show up to fuck everyone up

Honestly, I just wonder if he will be as fast talking and snarky as PP.

I mean the picture in OP makes him look like a pussy. If he is then that would make e more mad then anything else.

>>28372779
>legitimate example to get you to stop bitching
>LOL that doesn't count!

You're never gonna stop bitching, admit it.

>>28372779
>2011
>Not liking Spawn

>>28372775
Hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

But if you're talking main ones that get monthly series, only two.

>>28372773
>Gwen
>not Johnny

>>28372773
As long as it's a hot white bitch. I get of hard on inter racial. Black man on white woman just seems natural and right.

>>28372773
Aren't Gwen and MJ like 18 in Ultimate now?
Miles is 13 guys.

>>28372738
then why couldnt he continue doing his zanny shit with it, its not like there wasnt lots of materiall to draw inspiration from.
instead of doing a copout bullshit like this

>>28372827
But he is still doing his own thing with it. You just want to believe that this is a copout because you're an idiot

>>28372823
What's your point?

The fact that this is even a big issue at all means Bendis won.

>>28372823
Miles is 13? Says where? Sauce please.

>>28372757
if they didnt killed them off to begin wih

>>28372827
>HURR WRITERS ARE UNCREATIVE
>Bendis goes in a completely different direction with Spider Man
>DURR WHY CANT HE JUST DRAW FROM THE OLD STORIES

>>28372853
haha, yeah, no
A copout is a copout, dont kid yourself

>>28372863
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/new-ultimate-spider-man-brian-michael-bendis-110803.html

>>28372856
The fact that people are talking about, even if only to be racist, is drawing attention to the comic from people who would have otherwise not have heard of it (as evidenced a few times in this thread). At the end of the day, Marvel wins.

>MFW people will bitch and moan about spiderman being black for about 6 months yet still buy the comics and when they realize they are powerless to induce change will continue buying the comic like the brainwashed, trained sheeple that they are.
I has no face

>>28372899
Marvel always wins

>>28372899

That's exactly what I said only more detailed...

>>28372888
Why don't you explain to me how it is a copout then.

>>28372856
so, this was all just another cunning Jew plot to make money?

>>28372929

Yes. That's pretty much how Marvel became an empire.

>>28372894
That sucks. I've always thought that romance subplots are an essential factor to Spidey stories. With him being so young, it makes it pretty hard to do.

>MFW we hear Bendis gets assassinated by an obese white boy with guns for changing spiderman
>MFW it turns out to be one of you fat racist fucks

>>28372971
>yfw he's dressed as Spider-Man

Gwen and MJ are 17-18 now.

Miles is a 13 year old.
I dont think Miles is gonna be romantically interacting with any of them.

Now, if you used to think MJ was acceptable fap material for a 15 year old, will you be able to deal with a 12 year old girl?

Careful, Marvel.
I still remember that particular comic where MJ said "You know, I'm only 15..."when she was dressed looking like WW.

So how will he get Spiderman powers?

>>28373020
You'll have to wait for September to find that out.

Dammit, I thought that Ultimate Jessica Drew was going to be Miles's love interest, but if he's 13, I guess not.

>>28373020
He's a clone of Ultimate Ben Riley calling it now.

>>28373020
He incorporated Peter's DNA with his own. This kid's IQ is slightly lower than Reed Richards.

fuck spidey this shit will fail, people will buy the first chapter, see its bullshit asking where peter is, and by next issue sales will start plummeting again as it has been the case for the ultimate marvel bullshit

god speed spidey,
in the future we'll see peter parker return and we'll find out that the peter that died was a clone with all his memorys and shit, they should just cancel this series

>>28373071
Dead is dead in ultimate u unless you're beast

>I just got forwarded a bunch of stuff. It seemed that the comics community is pretty cool with it, all said and done, beyond the usual "You spoiled my book, you a**hole" thing, but that's OK, because I know I didn't. Nothing was spoiled; we just told you what the book's about. That's marketing, that's not spoiling.

No you asshole, I like your comic and all but that's complete bullshit. The marvel facebook page threw the entire piece of news up in a status update with no spoiler warning at all. That's SPOILING a big detail of the book for people who might have preferred to wait and see for themselves.

While I'm not necessarily saying I think they will reverse the death for sure, I just want you guys to think about something for a second.

Ultimate Norman Osborn has been supposedly "dead" mutiple times in the past, and somehow he keeps coming back.
Ultimate Peter Parker got his powers from the same stuff that turned Norman into the Goblin.

If they decide at some point they want to bring him back, there's a perfectly reasonable in-universe explanation for it already set up.

>>28373138
Well to be fair, they since fixed that.

>>28373255
Multiple times?
It was once.

They changed the ethnicity of the Enforcers in That Ugly Spiderman cartoon but no one said shit. Fucking hypoctires

>>28373219
>2011
>Still getting mad at spoilers

>>28373334
I didn't watch that show but I probably wouldn't have cared.

To be honest though that's completely different. That's making them different from the start, not killing them off and replacing them.

>Primarily Joe [Quesada] and I — this was back when Joe was editor-in-chief — would have this discussion. First you get the idea, if you really wanted to make this work, Peter's got to go. If anybody else was being Spider-Man, they're competing with Peter Parker as Spider-Man, and you just can't compete with that. Peter would have to go.

I disagree. I feel like this could have been a really cool idea to try out back around Ultimatum when we had the fake-out death. Have Miles show up, same reasoning and everything where he's trying to honor Pete or whatever by taking up the identity. Have him struggle with shit, and then a little later have the reveal that Pete survived. They could have given him another (possibly even brand new) hero identity and given him his own book. You could even have Pete kind of mentor him, to show that he really does know what he's doing at that point and how much he's matured.

That's something I would have read.

>>28373441
>implying people wouldn't be mad as fuck if they made Parker a non white

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit racist that they gave him a primarily black suit?

>>28373523
Yes.

>>28373523
It never even crossed my mind until now

Black girl = 100s of angry neckbeards
Clinton = Bendis

if they wanted a black spiderman, they should have created a separate character.

When they created a woman spiderman, they invented a separated character called spidergirl (or spiderwoman). Likewise, they should have invented a separate character called spider blackman.

>2011
>still caring about racism