why is this stickied?

They should recruit Nova and Star-Lord

Since when did Bubbles join the Fantastic Four?

hi

Her face is so derpy in the last panel

I had a substitute teacher like that

bitch was crazy

Her face in the bottom panel makes me lol

>>23761601
why so sticky

>>Meanwhile, Crystal finds out she wasn't invited to the funeral.

Wait until Blink finds out her past love's been busy.

saging a sticky.

also,

>brb, killing annihilus

>>23761638
:(

1 I really don't think this needs to be stickied and
2 If they really wanna kill annihilus just throw everyone who was at Johnny's funeral at him he wont survive

>>23761637
Cuz MODS=GODS.

Also, postan in a sticky.

GREAT USE OF SPOILERS MOD

And then it turns out at the end of this year, that Johnny Storm was Annihilus all along.

An alternate dimensions Johnny Storm no less.

dem kirby eyes

>pointless sticky
>not spoilered

go /co/

Recruit Annihilators; problem solved.

>>23761693
Saved for future reaction image uses

>>23761601
how did she get so tall? isn't she three years old?

To beat the bug...

You gotta be the bug

>TO DO LIST:
>KILL JOHNNY TEST

>>23761685
Annihilus isn't weak, son.

>>23761638

Too busy being canceled.

>>23761765
Isn't he a lot weaker now that he doesn't have the cosmic bands anymore?

I mean come on, Thor is alive again.

This page rated very high on the FUCK YEAH scale

>>23761714
Nah, he'll be 616 Johnny and time travel shenanigans.

Great issue, FF is gonna rock.

>>23761685
He's already at pre-crunch assault numbers in terms of his fleet. Annihilus's biggest asset was a massive fleet.

>>23761765
Neither are Namor Hulk Thor...

Who you gonna call?

I love how scary Val can be, she takes after her god-father. (it's a good thing)

Loved this issue. Why they stickied this instead of the thread storytiming the whole thing and Thunderbolts, I don't understand.

Is that Val? Any reason she's.... tall?

>Since when did Bubbles join the Fantastic Four?

Bubbles is on every team these days.

Nova already did that child! It didn't take. Sides I'm sure Mr.Storm will be back before you know it. Hell your other Uncle, Dad, Mom and half the universe has died and come back. How the fuck can you even be upset? God damn the Marvel universe is full of impatient emos!

Why the hell is this a sticky so soon?

Why the hell is it even a sticky?

Also, postin' in a sticky thread.

>>23761852
Probably science.

>>23761865
You know what would be great? If Johnny stayed dead for about a decade.

Her eyes are far apart, why?

THOSE EYES

>>23761915

Or forever, would be pretty cool.

would someone give me some context here?

why is the girl in a classroom wearing a FF4 shirt looking she's retarded casually writing down they have to kill some random FF4 villain?

>>23761944
That would be a first

I still don't believe Johnny is dead

He can turn into fire and he was somehow killed by an explosion.

What will happen is they will find out hes actually much stronger just cant find a way back.

>>23761954
Because she IS the Fantastic Four now!

>>23761959
>killed by an explosion
I swear people who comment on his death in ways to "lessen" it's importance are fucking retarded.

If you didn't read it, or are somehow incapable of comprehending a god damn comic book, please shut the fuck up.

best part was when annihilus was holding that piece of johnny's suit and had a "that's right" face on.

Ben Parker is pretty alone up there in permanent Marvel heaven hopefully Johnny will keep him company.

You wanna know what just occurred to me Johnny got sooooooo homo ass pained when he thought Daken was dead and now that Johnny died Daken is nowhere to be founded I doubt they will even mention it in his ongoing

>>23761954
>random

Nigga you just went full retard.

what the hell is going on. sometimes this sticky is on top, then it's dwayne's, then this again, rinse and repeat

>>23762015
Shit, you're right. Was he even at the funeral?

So a sticky because...?

>>23762078
Nope amd even Nick Furry was there.

This is why i don't read marvel garbage.

Someone should shoop that to say Atrocitus just to confuse people.

>>23762094
If you went over the minutes from last Friday`s meeting, then you would know why.

>>23761915
>>23761944
Won't happen.
One of these will however:

1. Sales drop sharp enough that they'll do A 'super mega extravaganza' of the return of Human Torch!

2. A new FF movie will launch and they better get the family together so they can encourage movie goers to grab a copy of the fantastic comic!

3. A big event will occur and they'll hype it up with the 'return of a fallen hero' and use him to 'surprise' everybody! Also to make sure people will buy half way threw there event. (Civil war with "Thor")

If we are lucky he'll stay dead for five years tops. Realistically He'll be back in less than three years.

>>23762109
Aaaaaaaaaaaand here comes the furry art.

>>23762130
What part in particular is the reason why?

>>23762078
The Avengers mostly. Doom too.
I'm kinda surprised that no Inhumans were there.

LIKE A BOSS

Mission accomplished.

>>23762015
Spider-man mythos is the only one that seems to let death take (except with super villains and aunt may).

Jean de-wolfe, gwen, mr. stacy, Jackal, uncle ben, for example.

>>23762168
Not who you ask. But I'm in the same boat.
Here:
>>23762161
Sums it up pretty well why I dislike them.

I read it as "Cunnilingus".

Requesting an edit for that.

I rolled my eyes when Reed threaten Annihilus with the nullifier. Your going to threaten a cosmic nihilist with the wipe out of everything? Doom's right about you man.

>>23761989

I don't even know who she are.

Why is she better than Reed?

yyyyyeaaaaaah

>>23762317
She's Reed's daughter!

I posted this in another thread, but I still think that Doom is gonna kill Annihilus and take the Cosmic control rod to get back to his old self.

>>23762317
It's Valeria Richards, Reed's daughter.

>>23762220
DC does the same thing dude it's what to expect when a company has character and universes that they want to continue as long as possible.
This is a reason to read Image , Creator owned content and what not but it isn't a reason to stop reading the stories of an entire publisher.

Uh why is this stickied

>>23762326
NO SON OF MINE HAS HUMAN EYES. FREAK!

>>23762309
They need the Raccoon to get shit done.

The FF went all the way to heaven and brought Ben back even though he was happy there. Why the hell can't they do the same for johnny? Did they suddenly forget that they have a magical machine that allows them to virtually bring back anyone they want to?

>>23761954
>why is the girl in a classroom wearing a FF4 shirt looking she's retarded casually writing down they have to kill some random FF4 villain?
I know right? Seriously, this comic is only one page long? What the fuck, Marvel?

So, like....Why stick?

>>23762456
Can't Ben no longer go back to Heaven now?

You have to hand it to Hickman, he at least attempts to have consistency in his book with everything else in the Marvel U.

Kid Annihilus and Doom having his intellect reduced might have gone unnoticed to others but he at least acknowledges it.

I just have one particular bug about all of this: When did Richards get the Cosmic Rod? Last time I check Blastaar had that thing in Nova.

Reporting in

>>23762492
Huh? Do you mean the Ultimate Nullifier?

>>23762368
It's hard not too. When you trivialize death so much for the hope of sales it makes the story a joke. When I see a world where just about every one has died and came back AT LEAST once, it just makes it hard to really feel for them. And half of those death(or more) had a body to 'confirm' they were dead and not just dodging it. When they killed Steve Rogers and hyped it to the press I knew he be back before the decades end. And I hated that I was right. And I'm going to hate it when Johnny's back before 2015.

>>23762492
That's the Ultimate Nullifier, not the Cosmic Rod.

>>23762396
that's not his son. that's annihilus as a kid, because he's growing up all over again

>>23762543
The Cosmic Control Rod. And yeah, Blastaar has the one Annihilus used to use but there is more than one. There is more than one Lord of the Negative Zone, too.

>>23762543
yep. Don't have the image but it just shows Reed digging it out and showing Big A

>>23762616
pic related

So what was reed doing when he had the nullifier? Was he trying to exchange it for Johnny and then KA was all, "lol no suck my cock" ?

>>23761601
This pisses me off, first they de-age franklin, come out with some BS newsletter that says they will be treating franklin as 9 years old and valeria as like 5~6, then they de-age franklin and cause valeria to grow up.

I am tired of them shitting on franklin, and what the fuck, that girl looks like she could at least be Layla miller's age(pre-ageing I mean)

>>23762642
Is he holding a fucking twinkie

>>23762543

Nope, the Cosmic Rod is that thing Annihilus straps to his chest to gets his powers.

Blastaar took it in the Nova books after seizing Annihilus territories in space.
But somehow this thing reappears in the FF to be stolen by Annihilus bugs again.

So... When did it reach Earth?

>>23762616
Yeah, I'm aware what the Cosmic Control Rod is, but its just that Reed was threatening Kid Annihilus with the Ultimate Nullifier instead, and I thought he may have been confused.

THANK BASED MOD

>>23762616

Oh. Nevermind then.

I thought there was only one Comic Rod.

>>23762736
Oh, then I misunderstood you. My apologies.

>>23762591
Regardless of the triviality of dead in big comic universes it doesn't lessen the quality of the adventures and the stories. Granted there deaths have no effect on us by I like to believe what they do when they are alive does and how well they story of their death/revival does.

>>23762731

didnt they take it from Annihilus to save Sue during her pregnancy with franklin?

>>23762761
Nope. Catastrophus had one, too.

>>23762781

ignore this. Also, cant franklin re-rewrite reality? arnt there a lot of characters that can straight up reanimate people? tbh with all the powerful people in that universe i find it hard to believe they dont have a way of just reviving someone

>>23761693
Why does that look so familiar?

>Adult walks into the classroom
"Hey kids, whatcha doin' to...oh...uh...boy."

have some fun /co/mrades

SPOILER

>>23762847
looks like Michael Shannon with a wig.

So, this is valeria? Can someone post the pic of doom naming her? And does doom have any plan of avenging johnny's death, if not resurrecting him with magic?

>>23762944
what? Ben Grimm can only get his rocks off if Thor and Hulk double team him in the desert since he can't feel the passionate embrace of Johnny anymore?

That Namor's gonna penetrate Sue's protective bubble?

That Reed's father is Galactus?

>>23762776
>it doesn't lessen the quality of the adventures and the stories.
It can when it eats up 4+issues and they make a huge event out of the ordeal.
>Granted there deaths have no effect on us
It effects some one or they stop it and that's the Issue. People get killed of to bring in readers that go "OMG they killed **** that is so cool/unexpected!" Then "Oh wow **** coming back! Wonder how?"
>I like to believe what they do when they are alive does
If writers didn't keep resting things back to status back to "what we grew up with." Short of maybe cosmic Marvel, every hero gets reset to factory settings every 2-4 years.
>how well they story of their death/revival does.
How many "original takes are there left of that though?" last 'Good' one was Colossus.

>>23762467
>cue gif image of jack fenton pushing the ghost portal button and the ghosts of various dead marvel heroes flying out as the steel doors open and close.

>>23763005
Kid Annihilus: "Come at me bro"

>>23763007
>eats up 4+issues
Maybe you felt that way but I didn't. The universe does not, in fact, revolve around you.

That is some shitty art, what happened to the regular guy¨?

>>23762492
>Doom having his intellect reduced

When did this happen? I've been out of the FF loop since the whole Doom's Master arc a while back.

>>23763085
World War Hulks. His mind is slowly degrading.

>>23762817
Franklin got his powers but was depowered or it was retconned, as of now franklin appears younger than his younger sister, and will never do anything ever again besides get perhaps one line once a year or so.

I wish they would just either kill him or let him do something, because he has so much wasted potential, he should at least be in the power pack, if not the young avengers or something similar.

And just how old is Valeria these these? Isn't she supposed to be a toddler. This is perhaps the first instance of the sliding time-scale in comics actually speeding up time.

Soo, what the Hell was with Ben, Thor, and Hulk in the desert?
"Hey we know you feel bad so here's some punches."?

>>23763122
I think it's mostly the art. She's supposed to be like 5 or 6.

>>23763007
Name one Marvek ongoing that is at it's original status quo right now.

>It can when it eats up 4+issues and they make a huge event out of the ordeal.
As long as its well presented and well written what the matter.

>>23763072 That is some shitty ar

go to bed land.

>>23762847
Can't unsee.

>>23763136
ben simply has to express his emotions the only way he knows how.

with whole acausts. in the desert.

>>23763071
>Have debate about opinions of death in comics
>Cry me as entitle
Wow. You mad? This started because I dislike this and have kept civil about it (because it is comics after all) and it spirals into "The universe does not, in fact, revolve around you." I wasn't trying to say it did. You ask why I didn't enjoy marvel as late and I answered it with debate on the subject.

>>23761601
WHY IS JOHNNY STORM IN THE SECOND PANEL?!

>>23763122
>these these?
Dunno what happened there.

>>23763209
That's either Alex Power or a oddly drawn Franklin

>>23763209
That's Alex Power.

>>23761601
They should just call Nov- Oh wait... ;_;

>>23763113
>World War Hulks
>The plot builds on the depowering of Bruce Banner by Red Hulk during the "Dark Reign" storyline and the betrayal of Doc Samson who joined with the Intelligencia to bring about the "Fall of the Hulks" to create an army of Hulks to take over the world. "World War Hulks" will also show the origins of Red Hulk and Red She-Hulk.

Jesus. I don't even want to know anymore. Thanks.

>>23763270
In all honesty, World War Hulks was far better then it had any right to be. I am not kidding.

>>23763294

Of course it was, Jeff Parker and Greg Pak were there to cancel out Loeb.

So is the purple one supposed to be the Doom that's lived for millions of years and conquered death through sheer willpower and knows almost all magic?

>>23763358
No. That's Kristoff Vernard

>>23763294
It was Greg Pak is a top tier writer

>>23763358
Doom's son. Seriously, it was right on the previous fucking page.

>>23763085
>>23763113
>Doom Disassemled
Later...
>Doom Resilient
>Doom works to make the world a better place for his goddaughter, so he starts building peaceful Doombots. But Franklin Richards can't leave well enough alone and begins to sabotage him. Forcing Doom to create a new armor, capable of dealing with Franklin's vaguely undefined and deus ex machina once and for all. And just what do the Mandarin's power rings have to do with them? A FIVE MONTH SERIES FROM THE HOUSE OF IDEAS.

>>23763358
Hickman hasn't really acknowledged the whole "Million Year Old Doom" thing. Most of the other stuff from Millar's run Hickman has tried to incorporate. But that's the one thing he seems to be ignoring.

>>23763146
>Name one Marvek ongoing that is at it's original status quo right now.
I guess I need to define that, but point taken.
I just seems Characters go threw tragic events like death and the 'poof' it's all better. Even outside of death. Take Civil War in short Tony did some crazy nightmare stuff that should have left him near unacceptable by most and in about two years (what is that in comic time six months?) the trio is together again. Bet money Steve will be Captain America again by the Avengers movie. Yes I'm aware Tony went threw alot of hoops to get there but still, every thing has to be as it was from years ago.
>As long as its well presented and well written what the matter.
It feels repetitive. At least to me. Like others have posted it just seems there are a large amount of ways to bring him back by comparing it to how others were. Trust me I'll respect Marvel if they keep him dead longer than 5 years.

I still don't really understand why this is a sticky. What am I missing?

>>23763446
Possibly because it's the "final issue" of Fantastic Four. True, they'll probably rename the new series FF back to Fantastic Four when it reaches the 600th issue milestone, but the moment it might be something worth taking notice.

Also, this page is just badass.

>>23763465
NO, SPIDER-MAN NO

>>23763499
IT'S WEBHEAD TIME

>>23763446
One of the best Marvel books, death hype or no death hype

>Me and your Uncle Johnny did this all the time...

>>23763444
Bucky just got a court order to be captain America for 20 years and that's comic years so he isn't going anywhere without a huge retcon.

Also knowing Johnathan Hickman Johnny will stay dead as long as he is writing and based on his writing and his sales that will be a while.

I have to agree I do hate senseless retcon that have character avoid repercussions for there actions and what not, but like I said before, and this certainly applies to Iron Man as long as the ride there is good I can brush off a little bit of my anger.

>>23762161
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>>23762161
Makes me more sad than his death

>>23763073

Apocalypse and Annihilus confirmed for best evil kids ever.

So should the kids hire Fantomex or bring back Richard Rider?

In all honestly if FF goes further than 22 issues Ill extremely surprised.

I hope it does.

>>23762161
Umm... he's going to be back for Fantastic Four 600.

Hell, the way he went out it's so easy to reverse it's almost a given. Just enjoy a good book and see where Hickman takes it.

It's sticky because it was a great book that told a great story. Without dialogue (for the mains story). I haven't followed most of the FF, well, ever, and I was able to follow this story and get emotionally invested.

>>23763612
It's going to be 12 issues.

Because do basic math that's why

>>23763598
damn. the boy's got pink eye!

>>23762216
True, even The Punishers family that has been dead for a very long time was brought back albeit his son and daughter was put down, and his wife is sucking Jigsaw.

>>23763653
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I didn't read the final issue of in the blood T_T

>>23763687
I thought the S&M chick being Frank's wife was known by everyone on /co/ for a while now, I'm sowwy.

>>23763634
Oh crap this was issue 88 not 78 my bad I was just looking at issue 78 in my files for some reason

>>23763572
>without a huge retcon.
Like that doesn't happening left and right.
>Also knowing Johnathan Hickman Johnny will stay dead as long as he is writing and based on his writing and his sales that will be a while.
Beware the pressure of higher ups. Like it's been posted, all it could take is an F4 movie to be announced and he's back from the grave.
>as the ride there is good I can brush off a little bit of my anger.
I actual have no anger for it. I just dislike that kind of lazy story telling. And yes people can say "well comics arnt your thing." and there half right. I don't read any 'core' marvel anymore. Cosmic Marvel has been a wonderful ride. But events like these make me want to share why I feel comics are just turning to shock stories that they reset when the ground has settled from them.

All you fags bitching about "it wont last!" clearly aren't reading Fantastic Four, one of the best books on the stands right now. And if you're not reading it then WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CARE!?!

>>23763710
It's ok brosef.

I made sure to avoid any thread looking slightly Punisher related today.

>>23763730
So mad

>>23763743
Yeah, I am. Cause it's a great book and you guys are ripping on it for no reason.

>>23763729
I get you I guess it's just a difference in taste and different level of tolerance for different things. I hope to one day have a civil discussion with you one day.

OFF TO PLAY DRAGON AGE 2

Also what comics do you read?

>>23763730
But it wont last. It makes us sad.

GEE BILLY, TWO STICKIES?

The art is like Jack Kirby's but without any actual life behind it.

Er..Annihilus.

Could I tell you a secret, Spider-man? I think I could have stopped my uncle Johnny from dying.

Well, I promise I'll keep it to myself, but can I tell you one?

Uh-huh.

I KNOW I could've stopped my uncle from dying.

By the way, anybody worried about that Franklin power set?

Or how it might deal with the Galactus: Destruction of Earth?

only way to stay dead in the marvel u is to get space cancer.

This is why I hate moderators. There is absolutely no reason for this to be stickied.

>>23763877
Just about

>>23763465

Kind of weird that Spider-man is more busted up over the death of the wife of one of the people who hates him the most (who also hated him, too), than he is over the death of one of his closest friends. He seems to be taking it pretty much in stride there.

>>23763922
In a way, he feels responsible for the death of JJJ's wife. With Johnny, he was in another dimension fighting space-bugs.

>>23763922
An upcoming issue of ASM will deal with this, apparently. You'll probably see things from his perspective too.

Also, the thing is, this is a situation in which there's no way for him to lay the blame on himself.

>>23763922
It's another one of those things where he blames himself and has PTSD flashbacks linking it to his uncle's death.

>>23763775
I just enjoy debating ideas and opinions. Keeps the mind sharp. Like I said I'll be happy if they stay true and keep him dead for a good long time.

>OFF TO PLAY DRAGON AGE 2
Just finish that Demo actually
>Also what comics do you read?

I'm up to date with all the modern Cosmic Marvel. Other than that I read many 80's comics I didn't get a chance to read young. Stuff like Green Lanter, Silver Surfer, Daredevil with Blackheart's intro and story...yeah that was weird. Also DC vertigo.

I've tired picking up core books (like Spider-man's, new ways to die. Eddie Brock has gone threw a amazing amount in the last 5+years) But loose interest fast, epically if a cross over event shows up.

>>23763922
Perhaps because he feels in part responsible for one of the deaths. Or because he's putting on stoic airs for Franklin's sake. Did you ever have a pet or something die when you were little, and your parents seemed really calm?

>>23763871
I loved the dialogue between Spidey and Franklin. Good stuff. Can't wait to see Hickman write more Spidey in FF.

>>23763845
Thats why it bug the life out of me when artist play off his style.

That brown-haired kid to the right is so high right now.

>>23764111
Probably because he wants to build more weapons. Dude's a child-clone of a supervillain, and he was far too happy building a bomb recently.

>>23761601
The face of the kid in the front of the center panel is unbelievably hilarious. He's going for serious but failing hard

>sticky

>>23764260
Which villain?

>>23764310
Bentley Wittman, the Wizard.

>>23764310
He's a clone of the Wizard of the Frightful Four.

>>23763953
When you get right down to it Spider-man is kind of selfish, it doesn't effect him as much because he can't blame himself for it?

The guy couldn't even show up to the funeral to one of his best friends

He should have been one of the first ones there

Spider-man was there when Captain Marvel died but apparently this wasn't worth his time?

>>23764409
Is that the Vision? I guess I'm really out of it because I thought he was dead.

>>23764409
>it doesn't effect him as much because he can't blame himself for it?
It makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean he's less sad about the death. It just means it doesn't haunt him at night in the same way.

>The guy couldn't even show up to the funeral to one of his best friends
>He should have been one of the first ones there
It's entirely possible he's off-panel. He could have been there first, paid his respects to the bereaved, and is now standing off to the side of the room.

After his Uncle died, selfish is a strange word for me to hear describe Parker

>>23763922

Well the last thing you should do when a good friend dies is have a complete breakdown in front of their grieving family.

>>23764504
>The newest incarnation of the Vision is a fusion of the old Vision's operating systems and the armor of adventurer Iron Lad, a teenage version of Kang the Conqueror who arrives in the present. Through this merger, Iron Lad is able to access plans the Vision had created in the event of the Avengers' defeat. He uses these plans to assemble a new team of "Young Avengers". When Iron Lad is forced to remove his armor to stop Kang the Conqueror from tracking him, the Vision's operating system causes the armor to become a sentient being.

-Wikipedia

>>23763967
Is it bad that I wanna play Dragon Age 2 more so I can fuck the big tittied brown chick

>>23764680
Seriously, that brown chicks tits made me do a spit take.

>>23764581

You know, couldn't someone just put the Vision back on and use him as a suit then?

What if we find out that for all this time, Scarlet Witch has been hiding INSIDE Vision!?

>>23764733
We already know where the Scarlet Witch is.

>>23764701
I will be honestly be pissed if I don't get to fuck her in this game.

>>23764763

Besides being boned by Hawkeye? Where?

>>23764829
Latveria, almost married to Doom. Or something like that.

How that jives with the current FF comics, I do not know.

>>23764829
Latveria

Isn't Annihilus already dead? Or is this Ultimate U or something?

>>23765079
Annihilus was reborn in the very same comic he was killed in.

>>23765102
That's got to be some kind of record.

>>23765132
Not really. That's sort of the thing with those Negative Zone bug guys. It's what they do.

This is my 2 cents on the entire ordeal.

These whole death/revived in no time flat can still have effects on people who don't even read comics. When the character dies, the writer gets to explore the idea of him being gone. Characters are allowed to be more openly emotional, we revisit back stories and how strongly affected the lives of his teammates through old anecdotes. You realize how strong these connections get without the knowledge of prior adventures when you find out how passionate people get when they exact revenge/bring them back. For old readers, we just brush it off if we didn't like how it happened and thank god they're coming back within our lifetimes usually.

I read Johnny's death in a storytime on /co/ and when I saw the new issue at the same LCS I went to years ago, I didn't buy it because university has been drying up my wallet and I know he's going to come back in no time flat. Am I gonna buy his come-back? Hell fucking yeah because it's totally going to be Galactus eating a star and Johnny exploding out of his stomach in the largest FLAME ON he's ever done or something

>>23765132
Great. Now we just need someone to be reborn in the next panel...wait...I think that happened already.

Does Nekron count?

>>23765102
And by the way, that comic was Annihilation. So don't judge it too harshly.

>>23765170

Didn't you read Annihilation you retarded?

He wasn't really reborn, it was a clone baby of him or something.

And unhm in Blackest Night, every single hero dead became a black lantern in the same panel.

>>23762239
better yet Analingus

>>23765248
>He wasn't really reborn
Yes he was. He was literally born again from a new egg.

>>23765296
>born
>from an egg
Son, I think we need to talk..

>>23765324
Son, I think you need to read Annihilation. They cut him out of a mother bug-monster.

>>23765324
What? You saying it didn't happen? You think I just made that shit up? Read Annihilation cause you don't know shit about comics.

>>23764409
why does Dragon Man need glasses if he's a magical robot?

Might as well storytime this, since we have an unspoilered sticky anyways...

>>23765388
Cause now he's all smart. It's really just sort of a joke.

>>23765388
Because he looks awesome in them. He's a hipster I guess?

>>23765407
If anyone in this thread isn't following the current creative run on Fantastic Four, you need to rectify that shit now.
Easily one of Marvel's top 3 titles.
Apologies in advance for the shitty art early on, it's not indicative of the usual great art on this book

>>23765433
I have faith that we'll never see this level of art in this book again.
At least I'm praying.

>>23761714
They've already done that twist before
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/vangaard.htm

>>23765443
Someone at Marvel jerks it to this guy's art style, being as they chose him to do the half of the story that is told purely through visuals.
No accounting for taste I suppose. He's not awful, but his style is wrong for the FF. Just like JRjr shouldn't do cape books.

>>23763871
Man, that part. That fucking part.

>>23765475
Blech. I can only think of 2 versions of Sue more awful looking.

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>>23765373
you aren't BORN from an egg. You HATCH from an egg.

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>>23765516
Discussing reproduction on /co/ is a rather pointless endeavor.

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>>23765634
Fuck, storytiming is a chore when everyone is randomly posting pages from this all over /co/....
Seriously, who is Christoff? I know most of you are babies, but wiki isn't THAT hard to use..

>>23765680
At some fucking point, given how old his sister and Christoff are, Franklin is going to have to grow the hell up.
It's getting ridiculous.

>>23765702
"Ah..remember when I tried to shoot your home into space and blow you all to pieces?"
"Good times, good times."

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>>23765749
No Frankie Raye?
I am dissapoint.

>>23765702
Reed keeps putting anti-growth hormones in his cereal

captcha: oynat sense

>>23765769
So now that Franklin is stuck in Spidey-style sliding timescale age, and she's roughly the same age as him, how long before she's portrayed as his older sister? Female characters rarely get stuck as kids.

By 2014, Luke Cage's son will be hanging out with Franklin.

>>23765797
Yeah. By rights, Franklin should be the slightly older boy that Alex Power pals with. Franklin is being kept young so we can have these D'awww moments with Spidey, but honestly it's getting tiresome.

>>23765806
Wasn't Valeria aged up somehow? Or Franklyn de-aged, or something? I thought it made sense at one point... Well, comic-book sense anyway.

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>>23765860
I'm bothered by crying Thor.
He and Johnny weren't particularly close, nor is he that close to Ben. Johnny fell in battle, so Thor wouldn't be sad about that at all.....eh, it just bothers me.

>>23765890
this looks like it ended in naked bongo drum beatings and alcohol.

>>23765890
Also, all things considered, Doom showing up at Johnny's grave while the FF are there is akin to the Joker showing up at Bruce's funeral while the Batfamily are mourning.

Admittedly Doom has always been pushed as an "honorable villain", and the Joker has been reduced to a baby-soup cooking caricature of what a 12-yr old thinks a villain is.......but it's still in poor taste.

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>>23765971
Suddenly! A decent artist appears!

>>23764409
I hate it that most of them just put on their superhero costumes for a funeral, some I guess is just standard since they have secret identities but both Caps, Storm, Cyclops, Hawkeye, I'm pretty disgusted.

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>>23765994
Usually, when that many supers show up, there's an attack or a misunderstanding/fight-scene. So showing up in your gear is acceptable.

>>23766038
This is the real reason Franklin won't age, so the staff can vicariously live out their "I'm 8 and Spidey is my pal" fantasies.

>>23765890
Apart from crying Thor it's still a very emotional scene and it stirred something in me.

>>23766052
If Franklin were a teen like he's supposed to be by now, and Spidey was getting close to 40 like HE should be, then Franklin would sense with his powers that Parker is just some asscrumb who sold out his gorgeous loving wife to Satan for a few more decades with his Aunt Mumm-ra.

>>23766080
Yeah, apart from "weeping like a woman" Thor, I thought it was a good scene.
Thor would have a Cimmerian's attitude towards weeping.

>>23766038
I like the uncomfortable look Franklin has, like Spidey's going to a back alley and preform bad touch on him

>>23766107

>>23766109
HE'S A MENACE I TELL YOU

Weren't Johnny and Ben going gay for one another?

>>23766113
finis

this all seems too much, mainly because comic deaths are like temporary tattoos.

>>23766137
They did the same thing with Captain America.

>>23766026
Shoop it to "KILL MCDUFFIE", and then I might lol.

>>23766137
>>23766149
This. Johnny will be back in a few months so who gives a shit?

so, any bets on how long till Johnny comes back and everything returns to Status Quo?

>>23766190
13 issues.

>>23766133
ugh.

Am I the only one seeing the potential of a What If set in a future where Valeria becomes the new Dr.Doom and Franklin recruits a new F4 to fight her?

Seriously forget the What If, I want a whole arc, AoA style.

this was almost as bad as the 9/11 issue

>>23766320
whoa whoa thats going too far man too far

most of the chances johnny will be back with 600 or 601 of course this is the 600th issue and 2011 is the 50 year anniversary of the fantastic four.
but there is an another option, in Avengers #5 there is the big timeline map that was made by berevoort (or what is name) and if you see upper left (marked by red) there's a born to burn which most of the chances is mean to be johnny.

>>23765940
Joker did show up to a Batman funeral though.

>>23765769
What's going on with her fingers?

She has six fingers, now?

>>23766107
>>23766113
You missed a page.

>>23766459
The one all the way to the right is her thumb, you dumb ass. The end of it is just drawn at an angle, instead of flat across, so it looks like a longer finger that is bent.

>>23765983
>good artist
>baby arm spidey

>>23766478

The lack of Daken makes me sad.

>>23766488
Then she has one fucking disfigured hand, because there is no way her thumb can reach like that unless the joint in her hand is further up and away from the wrist than normal.

Yeah, this sticky is stupid.

/co/ has some of the shittiest mods ever. Sticky whatever the fuck they want, embed pointless shit, allow anime threads out the ass.

Postan in a sticky

Please tell me the good old days of Marvel Cosmic are back! I need more Giffen and DnA!

>>23763598

...wasn't he born 5,000 years ago or something? Goddamned time travel.


>>23761997

Not a whole lot of a need to "lessen" anything. It was retarded. Uneventful. Forced. Not believable in the least.


ALSO, THANK YOU MODS FOR NOT SPOILERING THIS SHIT

IT GIVES US A FREE "GET-OUT-OF-BAN-FREE" CARD IN CASE WE FORGET TO SPOILER SHIT IN THE FUTURE, I ASSUME.

Also, still wondering why this was stickied in the first place.

so I wanna start reading Fantastic Four, I got hte issue were Torch died and it seems to be in the middle of a lot, what issue should I start at?

>>23767080
Anything published before 1990. It's where the masterworks are.

The sliding Franklin/Val timescale annoys the hell out of me. Sometimes they're toddlers, sometimes they're like eight or nine, sometimes He's vastly older than her, sometimes they talk like small children, sometimes they talk like super brilliant adults.

I am aware of the Franklin Sliding powers that effect all of Marvel continuity, but I say god damn.

>>23761601
She's got a serious derp face going there

Okay, so how do we kill annihilus?

Franklin could kill Annihilus, he could have destroyed the entire Annihilation Wave with just a thought...so why didn't he?

I haven't been following FF for long, is Franklin supposed to be older than Val? Because from the last few issues I didn't really get that impression.

>>23767384

Or maybe Franklin doesn't want to use his powers since they are so fucking powerful, and I do believe he's been downgraded pretty much.

Imagine what would happen if Franklin just got pissed with his powers, accidently thought about something like killing Annihulus and accidently removing him entirely from the timestream causing all kinds of shit to happen to the world since annihulus wouldn't have ever existed...

>>23767413


I mean, he could turn himself into a Galactus ffs.

Maybe even Franklin ALWAYS has been Galactus? :O

So a Celestial wouldn't be able to take out all those monsters?

Because I was told the kid is as powerful as a Celestial.

Wait, what's up with Doom and the new metal face guy being crowned in Latveria?

His powers also act sort of strange when it comes to Negative Zone stuff, so its probably safer not to try. That and his powers are largely subconcious, otherwise he could just take out any of the FFs villains.

of course Torch will be back, when Marvel's editors say so and some new writer comes with great reborn story. But it will not be in Hickman's run, he has openly said in his story HT is and stays dead.

so enjoy his great run and stop bitching about some other new writer bringing him back somewhere five but even twenty years in the future.

if you let some continuity bullshit destroy your enjoyment of great story, I pity you

>>23767353
Batman.

>>23763358
Who is that dude and why is he ruling Latveria instead of Doom?

sage

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>>23763922
>his closest friends
no and what do you want? see him cry in front of the kid? that would sure help Franklin

>>23767809
Sue looks like a whore on that one!

Holy shit, whats is going on?!?

>>23762186
whats going on there?

>>23763598
kid... apocalypse?!?

>>23762408
whaaaa...?

>>23767592
bump that.

>>23762186
plus, what is going on there?


related to:
>>23767592
>>23767924

>>23767924
it's right there in the name of the file

google it

FUCK YEAR HICKMANG.

>>23761954


she is Valeria Richiards. Reed and Sue's daughter, the one that Doom saved at birth.

Doom was also the one that named her and he is her godfather

why is this shit art a sticky?

>>23768177
Mod wanted to do something and come back to a thread.

So, is another series starting where the F4 will be fighting cosmic threats? If so, I'm guessing it's the team that will have Spider-Man on it.

>>23768427

I can't believe Spidey didn't say the Great Power, Great Responsibility line.

>>23768475

I thought Annhilus was dead...

>>23768509
At the end of the first Annihilation he was seen to be reborn. He's been growing ever since, and is about a teenager I suppose.

So who the fuck is annihilus and what did he do?

>>23768529

yay comic book death.

I guess I should finish Annhiliation, its sequels, and what else? because for eral, Marvel Cosmic is the only good shit out of marvel lately.

>>23761601
>mfw mod sticky this

>>23768561
also mfw when people think Johnny is dead for more than a year

dem eyes

>>23768557
I don't know if this one counts, I mean he was shown to be reborn in the same issue his death happened in. The Rod grants immortality, so it shouldn't be that much of a shock.

>>23765702

>>23768427 F3

Fixed that for you

>VARYING DEGREES OF WANT

>>23767285
Now do one with:
"To do list:
Reunite Jeph Loeb with his son"

By this point, I've settled with the fact that the /co/ mods enjoy having completely random stickies for completely insignificant events(or in this case, just an insignificant page).

Remember that time that /co/ had TWO stickies just because Mon-El became a Green Lantern?

>>23768755
The mods of /co// are fucking bros.

Stop whining like a little bitch and appreciate what you have.

>>23768790
Wow, you have a strange definition of "whining".

>>23765248

I'm inclined to agree. The Annihilation Wave seems to be some sort of hive mind zerg army, and it will always need an Annihilus to lead it. If one dies, another one is born.

Kid Annihilus is probably the fully genetic copy/spawn of the original, and might have inherited his "memories". But being raised by hordes of blood thirsty sycophantic space bugs defeats the whole nurture vs nature argument anyway.

DOHOHO

SHE MAD

Great comic, shitty artist.

Why does the Fantastic 4 drudge up such feelings of disdain in me? Is it because of the goofy-ass name? Is it because I know Reed Richards to be a fucking asshole? Is it that I hate the whole family dynamic, with the kids and all? I mean, I fucking love Ben Grimm AND Doctor Doom, but like, fuck.

Also, if what usually happens happens and the second I post in a thread the discussion dies, fuck you all, I'm going to /tg/.

>>23767429


Don't be silly, we all know that Franklin is The Sentry.

>>23769209
The Thing has always been the best character in the FF. He should have more solo series.

>>23769209

>I don't read comics, yet I'm gonna give a entitled opinion

>>23769303
Someone's posteriorirritated.

>>23769303
Uh, no. I'm asking what could cause this visceral, kneejerk reaction.

Way to be a dick, though. You got that down pat.

>>23765680
Christoff isn't in the marvel wiki you fuck

>>23769595
Because his name is Kristoff.

>>23769595
http://marvel.com/universe/Doctor_Doom_(Kristoff_Vernard)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristoff_Vernard
http://marvel.wikia.com/Kristoff_Vernard

>>23769134

This art is great. Fuck off.

>>23769733
you have... interesting taste.

>>23769733
Shut up, author of that shitty page

>>23769800
Bet you hate Tim Sale's style too, faggot.

>>23769817
i don't know if you're asspained, but you sure sound like it.

>>23768101
why would doctor doom saved the child of his most hated enemy and be her fucking godfather?

and then doom shows up to the torch's funeral

you know, after like sixty years of attempting to brutally murder him in order to take over the world

comics are retarded

This art is far from bad, and can someone tell me who the kids in the classroom are?

>>23770010
After 911, Doom has become a sissy.

>>23770010
Because he's a villain and reed's a hero.

Doom prevailed where Reed failed, so what does Doom wants as a "thank you"? To be the godfather of his daughter, just to smear some shit on Reed's face.

And why do they allow Doom at the funeral? Because they're good people. They're heroes. And Doom didn't have anything to do with Johnny's death.

Simple as that.

>>23770010
doom isn't a villain, he's an idealist.
He sees himself as an hero and a savior. What he does he does for the sake of the rest of the world, not for his own gain.
In a twisted and egotistical way to be sure, but his intentions are good.

So even if he disagrees with richards and tries to kill him to further his plans he still respects him.
And he sees great potential in Valeria.
What better way to show it up to richards than to convert his daughter to his ideals?

>>23768582
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she looks like those kids from Village of the damned

>>23770211
THAT'S THE IDEA

I've always thought Doom was a villain, was. He got so caught up in those fake ideals he promoted himself to look better than Richard, than he eventually became the guy he faked himself to be, I quite like it, it's rare to see ANY character development on comics, and evenmoreso on villains, grown up villains are a diamond dozen.

>>23770592
What is god's name is a diamond dozen?

>>23770707
it's hard to communicate in this doggy dog world of ours.

>>23770707
dime a dozen
either he was trying to be clever or he really doesn't know his idioms

>>23764409
Spidey is getting an issue of his book dedicated to Johnny's death. Pretty sure he cares, he's' just grieving in his own way.

>>23762492
> Doom having his intellect reduced
Oh yeah! i forgot about that!
Can i get a issue number or a link to that issue?
I honestly have no idea what has been going on in FF since forever.

>>23770592
Or as they would say on TVTropes, he's "Becoming the Mask"

>>23770841
It happened in that terrible Hulk book, World War Hulks i think

Maybe the sliding ages of Franklin and Val are due to Franklin's powers, just that no one can notice. They are two kids that have the ability to warp reality, maybe Franklin likes being a kid?

>>23770950
>They are two kids that have the ability to warp reality

Only Franklin has that power.

I think that part of the problem is that there are only a couple of artists at Marvel and DC that can draw children convincingly at all, let alone kids at various ages.
So it's just easier to have them stuck at a certain age that they feel comfortable drawing them.
Pic related to badly drawn youngsters.

>>23767285
Dude not cool.

>Earth heroes
>Struggling to defeat an enemy

>Nova
>Rip that enemy from the inside out

OK, you know what?

The 616 universe can go fuck itself.

Seriously, every other alternate universe is better.

>>23772308
Except ours ;_;

Annihilus is proper fucked. He couldn't cope with Nova.

Now he has a pissed off Council of Reeds, Franklin Richards and the Goddamn Spider-man (popularity = power in comic fights) after him.

All of your faces when it is revealed torch never actually died, and is just being held prisoner

>>23773035
Actually since his Skrull ex girlfriend is still in the negative zone, it's going to be revealed that he was saved by her last minute.

>>23773161
I bet Annihilus was HER...

>>23772666


actually he was beating the shit out of nova.

nova just kinda gritted through and eventually won.

but in terms of sheer power, he had him beat.


also, nova is WAY more powerful then most anyone reed has at his disposal right now. his only comp is like, thor and that's it.


AW nova is roughly herald level

How is a classroom full of downies gonna kill annihilus?

>>23765983

Is spiderman wearing women's shoes under his costume?

>>23773304
didn't he once get all the F4 of all realities fused together and used them to beat MJJ?


and he could just unleash franklin on his ass.

>>23773304
>AW nova is roughly herald level

nope. at least definitely not on surfer's level.

>>23773545


1: surfer is the strongest herald becuse galactus powered him up

2: those 2 negative zone hulk looking dudes are able to fight evenly with heralds, and they both serve the king bug


nova was flying straight through massive star ships and destroying them and shit. maybe he's not herald level in all stats(matter manip etc) but he's definitely quite powerful.

>>23773545
He's only a small step below the Silver Surfer though, which still puts him at upper herald level. He was fighting a losing battle against Surfer when Galactus had him fully powered up after the Annihilation War.

Who are the kids and what's the council of Reeds?

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this was... pretty fucking emotional. didn't expect that from hulk

>>23762456
The machine was based off of Doom's design, Reed only knew how to change the coordinates from hell to heaven.
That and JackKirby/God wiped out the machine and said he was going to make it so no one could successfully rebuild it and fuck over the cosmos.

That said, it'll end up being like Marvel: The End "We swear this is canon!" and then a year later "Lol j/k."

>>23773667
Good point for the first 2/3 of the post but I'd go farther than your conclusion: Nova hangs out at the mid-to-high Herald level. The fact that he's able to engage Full Powered Silver Surfer on his own terms and not lose in a couple panels testifies to that.

I mean, the Surfer he was fighting (if it's the time I'm thinking of) was the one who'd won his way back into Galactus' good graces after (miraculously, granted) taking out Tenebrous and Aegis shortly after they'd murderized the Fallen One.

NO FUCK YOU, I DO WHAT I WANT

>>23773753
Council of Reeds: Reeds across the multiverse gather to "fix everything".

And the kids are the Future Foundation.

This goes above Dwayne McDuffie's death, huh?
Also, this: >>23761641 .

The artwork on this issue is perfect.

>>23773816
Don't forget bro Nova can hold back gods, so I say that he is easily surfer level when he goes all out, which he hardly ever does

who the fuck is Annie Hilus?

>>23762492
> Doom having his intellect reduced

Ugh. The only thing keeping me from raging is that such can easily be changed or reversed, but most writers seem scared to deal with continuity and so forth. I give Hickman credit fromtrying to deal with the continuity. I wish (and hope) he addresses Dr. Doomer, the purple super Dr. Doom in some fashion. It would be interesting if all this was part of some plan being orchestrted by that Doom. When the council of Reeds was created, I was hooping it was all a ruse by Doom to get rid of his alternate counterparts in other universes and making Reed do his work while amassing all the Reeds in different universes so they could all be destroyed in one shot leaving himself to rule over multiple universes without having to worry about each respective universes Doom or Reed when he came to take over.