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    1.87 MB Sky !sb/o.9igQ2 07/25/10(Sun)05:57 No.18873539  
    ITT: We discuss race in comic books. My one and only opinion is this. I think that people really need to stop saying that herp they added a minority character to seem less racist.

    I think it would be possible, definitely not all the time, but possible that they add them just to meet a demographic. Sure adding a race that isn't white may put some people off but adding a sprinkle of mixed races creates a broader audience.

    I honestly don't see why you people can't wrap your heads around that.

    This will be my only post, try and keep this thread up so I can see /co/'s nature on this subject because I'm going sky diving with my JAMAICAN brother in 3 hours and I need to get ready.

    Pic very fucking related
    >[greentext] And they're off [/greentext]
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)05:59 No.18873575
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    I'll take a colored character nearly any way I can get him. I'm even less scrupulous if said colored character is female.

    Pic very fucking related
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:00 No.18873591
    >they added a minority character to seem less racist

    But it's just that. And it's annoying.
    >> Dr Sivana !FvmXUlX/iE 07/25/10(Sun)06:01 No.18873606
    As long as they're not awful stereotypes or whatever, the more minority characters the better!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:02 No.18873622
    >>18873606

    You want to see little white girls raped by niggers. Your opinion is irrelevant.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:03 No.18873641
    I don't understand why everyone is complaining. Would it have been better if they just kept using the same all-white team? They added a black character and they did it with good intentions. Get over it.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:05 No.18873675
    They added some random black whore to the scooby doo cast

    the fuck is that about?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:06 No.18873681
    >>18873641

    >Would it have been better if they just kept using the same all-white team?

    Yes. Fucking yes.

    Now if they make a NEW hero or character who is black or something and give him his own title/show that's okay.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:07 No.18873701
    >>18873681
    Explain.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:07 No.18873705
    I'm usually more angry when they don't just add in a different race, but take an established white character and change them into a different race
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:07 No.18873707
    Too many shitty token characters added to seem to not racist and shit. Whites too dumb to realize that IS fucking racist. Adding ONE black character aint gonna make you look any less racist to someone who's educated.

    >>18873575
    unlike this dumbass nigger.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:08 No.18873715
    >>18873539 I think that people really need to stop saying that herp they added a minority character to seem less racist.

    The truth burns and stings, huh?

    You're pretty blatantly referring to the new Black Aqualad thread, so let's just go from there.

    They wanted to make a show about sidekickish characters. They didn't want it to be all white (and green) people. So the guys making it said "well what black sidekicks are there that we can use?"

    And DC Comics, a company that's existed in one form or another since 1934, said "None, but we can make one."

    That reflects badly on DC. It's not that they're a bunch of damn dirty racists, it's not that the new guy is doomed to be a poorly conceived racist, it's just kinda lame that this company that's been around for decades didn't have any characters readily available that fit the requirements of the show.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:09 No.18873729
    >>18873701

    Let's be honest and admit adding random minorities is just to appease the PC crowd and other idiots. Now if it's an original colored character then we might actually get the things that matter - a story, characterisation and so on. This CAN be done. Remember Fillmore?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:09 No.18873732
    >>18873707
    Unlike you who clearly isn't racist at all and dreams of a world where peoples of all races, colors, and creeds can live together in perfect harmony.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:10 No.18873736
    >>18873701
    The problem with adding a minority to an existing team is that those teams are usually pretty static. Avengers don't change much, and if the only addition that's happened in the past decade was them dropping in a black guy, it's pretty easy to see that they did it for the sake of having a black guy.

    Now if they just make a new black hero, eventually put him on a team, that's fine and dandy.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:10 No.18873739
    I'm gonna be honest, I as a Hispanic male is kinda offput when they do introduce someone who is a different colored than white, mainly because I, if not most people, grew up watching television and advertisements that depicted white people as the majority of people in society. Of course, I don't care if they make a character who is of a different color with out it being a main point of the character.

    However like >>18873591
    said,
    Most comic book writes just do it so they can reach some sort of a demographic quota, or make it into a stupid stereotype like Luke Cage as a strong black man stereotype.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:10 No.18873740
    >>18873729
    But he's Black Manta's son. Why would Black Manta have a son that isn't black?
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:11 No.18873758
    >>18873715
    what should they have done then? Leave it lily white with the exception of miss martian?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:11 No.18873759
    >>18873732
    You're a dumb bitch so you don't realize how stupid and racist a token character is? stfu
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:12 No.18873772
    >>18873736
    I don't understand your post. You say adding a black person onto a team is stupid but then you say it's fine and dandy for them to add a black character onto the team.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:12 No.18873774
    >>18873641 I don't understand why everyone is complaining. Would it have been better if they just kept using the same all-white team? They added a black character and they did it with good intentions. Get over it.

    It would have been better if they'd come up with a black sidekick for, say, Aquaman, a few years ago, of their own volition, because it just felt natural.

    As opposed to doing it because they needed to make a TV show and when they looked at the list of all the sidekicks they had floating around, none of them were black.

    Aquaman's new black sidekick doesn't exist because someone said "we should give Aquaman a new Aqualad. And hey, maybe make him black."

    He exists because they compiled a list of sidekicks and went "well crap, none of them are black. We need at least one black dude on this list. Let's make one."

    That should have you going "DC, I am disappoint."
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:13 No.18873794
    Manga tend to rarely have black characters, check the % of manga, not popular or non popular but just the % of manga that has black characters and you can see that its really rare.

    And no, Yoruichi is not black, she is indian or tanned at most. and killerbee is a rapper but not a black dude.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:14 No.18873805
    >>18873758
    They should have made Robin black, then say anyone who gets upset is a racist
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:14 No.18873812
    >>18873758 what should they have done then? Leave it lily white with the exception of miss martian?

    They SHOULD have invented this character, or someone else that fit the bill, YEARS ago. That's the issue, for me at least. Yes, by all means, quickly make someone now if you have to.

    But at the same time we really should be going "oh how kind of you to finally notice, DC." You know, in a sarcastic tone.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:15 No.18873815
    >>18873805
    ITT: People pissed off that the son of Black Manta is also black.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:15 No.18873819
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    >>18873539
    >mfw I read your post
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:15 No.18873827
    >>18873794
    Maybe it's because Japanese are like 99% of their population so they can do whatever the fuck they want?

    Unlike white Americans who have a 25%+ Hispanic and black population while only adding a black character when they want to seem diversified and shit. Yes, one black character in a group of fucking 10 other white characters doesn't make you look racist and shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:16 No.18873837
    >>18873815
    They killed Garth
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:16 No.18873839
    i don't see any reason to kill off legacy characters to change their race. make your own original characters if you need "representation" so bad. Why not make Scarlet Pimpernel black and Don Quixote asian while we're at it. And Pancho Villa will be a sassy woman.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:16 No.18873842
    I don't read super hero comics, but I don't doubt what the OP says is true. Marvel/DC probably force their shitty, racist writers to insert minorities into their extremely white super hero universes.

    However, threads filled with stupid white children crying about it is much more annoying.

    >>18873739

    I'm Hispanic as well, yet I don't feel conflicted whenever I see minorities because I'm not a self-hating retard.
    >> Tim 07/25/10(Sun)06:17 No.18873853
    This thread just made me think that it'd be really quite nice to see an animated Cassandra Cain someday, somewhere.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:18 No.18873863
    >>18873794
    >Yoruichi
    >Killer Bee
    >Not black
    Doesn't matter that they may not be canonically african. The fact is they aren't lilly fucking white and to the average joe or jane, they look dark enough to appease them.

    The point is not about being black, the point is NOT being white. Killer Bee, Yoruichi, the chick from basquash, Halibel, Lala from school rumble, Michiko, all of them are colored so all of them are cool with me
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:18 No.18873869
    >>18873827
    Actually 1 in 10 is only rounding down the black percentage by about 2%.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:18 No.18873871
    >>18873842
    >because I'm not a self-hating retard

    Was that directed at me, the one who posted that? 'Cause if it is, I think you clearly missed my point and/or don't believe that I really am Hispanic
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:19 No.18873883
    >>18873863
    Just a sidenote, but you have horrible taste in anime
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:19 No.18873889
    There's a shitload of "token" black superheroes but for the purpose of a stupid quota. I don't see enough Hispanic and Asians ones anyway.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:20 No.18873890
    >>18873827

    I think there might actually be more Asian female comic book characters than Black and latino characters combined.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:20 No.18873898
    >>18873889
    That's because your races don't cry loud enough like the blacks usually do
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:20 No.18873901
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    >>18873883
    >implying I only watch bleach and naruto
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:20 No.18873902
    >>18873539
    You have just said that there is some demographic who decides what to read only via colour of that character. That makes those people racist, GTFO you racist scum
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:21 No.18873905
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    >my face when a white superhero can be portrayed as any other race in other media, while the black superheros have to be black all the fucking time
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:21 No.18873908
    >>18873863
    Are you saying the Japanese aren't a colored people, you fucking idiot?

    >>18873869
    >implying that's an excuse for blatant tokenism

    fucking stupid whites
    >> Tim 07/25/10(Sun)06:22 No.18873913
    >>18873898
    Might be because the characters that portray our race are generally pretty awesome.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:22 No.18873917
    >>18873905
    It took way too much fucking effort to come up with Luke Cage! There's not way he can ever be a white man! YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:22 No.18873921
    >>18873890

    because hispanics don't give a fuck about hispanic superheroes, while blacks will fucking cry if there's not a token black character in every single fucking form of media
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:23 No.18873925
    >>18873908
    err...more colored. Ok that came out wrong and I apologize.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:23 No.18873930
    All the back stories put in black characters. How much focus and time compared to white ones? Fucking bitches.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:23 No.18873931
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    When I was younger, once I got my own room, I was a bit of a slob. Once in a while my mother would poke in and yell at me to bring my dirty plates and shit to the kitchen and clean them. And then she'd yell at me some more as I was cleaning them, saying there might be guests coming over.
    And I would go "what's the big deal? I'm doing it now, aren't I? You can stop yelling. I'm cleaning them very well, I'm doing a good job of it."
    And she would reply "the big deal is that you had to be told. You'll never grow up if you keep needing to be told to do these things. You should just know to do them yourself."

    That's what's going on here. Greg Weisman came along and started work on a Young Justice League cartoon, to be composed of sidekicks of the various Justice Leaguers. And there weren't any that were black.

    DC, of course, made one. And maybe they'll make a good job of it.

    But they'll never grow up if they don't learn to do this naturally, if they only do these things when someone comes along and points out to them that they HAVEN'T done it, and there's guests coming over.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:24 No.18873938
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    The problem is that they ARE adding minorities to seem less racist, which only emphasizes the token-ness of the character and the racism of the people writing them in. They're there to seem diverse but not really to be THAT necessary to the story.

    Want believability? Fill comics with a slew of minorities in a fuckton key roles until they start to look more commonplace. You're telling me you can fill a world with mutants and gods and aliens and not more Asians and blacks?

    Fucking DO IT. And stop giving them race-based powers. "Black people love that Black Panther Party right? He's the Black Panther!" Or "Oh she's a sand nigger right? Make her power SAND!"
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:24 No.18873941
    Well at least superman is tactically jewish...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:24 No.18873945
    what DC should do is make a set of miniseries depicting the super hero community for different countries around the world. The first one should be the Mexican Justice league trying to run down Narcos and corruption. You can have a sub plot of one pocketing money to get an American green card and have each member be from a mexican state. The guy from Jalisco would be your classic gold tooth, panza, giant sombrero, siesta taking wab with a big thick mustache.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:25 No.18873951
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    the best token character is Token
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:25 No.18873957
    >>18873905

    Not a comic, but in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series Lee Adama was white as hell and looked nothing like Edward James Olmos. I did not hear a single solitary complain about this.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:26 No.18873976
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    >>18873842
    >>18873842
    >Marvel/DC probably force their shitty, racist writers to insert minorities into their extremely white super hero universes.

    Uh-huh, sure! Let's call the writers for being racist for writing about characters that have been in print and in use for over 50 years that just so happen to be white. That sure is racist of them for not turning Superman into a black african american.

    As for the lesser known heroe comics, they do have different races in them, and 50%, or more than half or them being based on their fucking race/culture while most white heroes are not.

    I'm just gonna leave this pic as proof and be done.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:27 No.18873978
    >>18873938 "Black people love that Black Panther Party right? He's the Black Panther!"

    The comic one came first. By only a few days, in fact. The organization was unaware of the comic, the comic creators were unaware of the organization.

    Learn your comic history before lecturing others.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:27 No.18873980
    When minority characters are people, with believable personalities, foibles, strengths, and so on, with their race coming a distant last on their list of notable traits.

    But it does kind of suck that in any given comic book, the strong, well-developed characters who get the most screentime will be white.

    And it also sucks when people pretend that your race has no effect whatsoever on the kind of person you turn out to be. Races are treated differently by society, they have different histories with their own emotional significance, they are part of who you imagine you are. Respect the fucking history.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:27 No.18873989
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    >>18873938
    Agreed. We need to stop with the Black Vulcan, Black Panther, Black Manta shit.

    Dear Marvel/DC
    <---- She was doing it RIGHT
    Until they made her an armrest for T'Challa
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:28 No.18873999
    >>18873976

    "For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we're up against, and the sixth-century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people's heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I’m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I'm living in a city where 3000 of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built." - Frank Miller, a comic writing racist retard.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:28 No.18874001
    Most writers are just too racist to be capable of creating a regular minority character that isn't just a gimmicky stereotype
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:29 No.18874005
    >>18873931
    You are an idiot, here's why. Everytime a black character is introduced people like you will stand up and scream: HE IS ONLY BLACK BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE BLACK CHARACTERS. Every single fucking time. I don't know what magical way you want DC/Marvel to introduce black characters that some how feels organic to you? Do you want them to time travel to the 60s and create the character there?
    Either way here is the scoop, it isn't actually all that bad to create new characters of different ethnicities because you haven't in the past. It typically doesn't really matter much to a characters personality, and it does help flesh out super hero universes more. I really don't get what the complaint is here.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:29 No.18874006
    >>18873989
    Well, nobody's going to say Hudlin does race relations right.
    >> Tim 07/25/10(Sun)06:29 No.18874009
    >>18873938
    They wouldn't be tokens if they were written as important and interesting after their introduction, would they? In that case, I think the problem has less to do with introducing these character and more to do with writing them properly.

    So people can bitch about Blaqualad from now until the how actually starts, but if Blaqualad ends up being a decent character that works in the show's canon, it shouldn't really matter regardless of what the reason for his conception was/is.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:29 No.18874012
    >>18873989
    Black Lightning, Black Manta, and Black Panther (pre-Hudlin) were all awesome.

    As were John Stewart and Jim Rhodes.

    You want some head-desk material... The Black Bomber. http://www.proudrobot.com/hembeck/blacklightning.html
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:29 No.18874013
    >>18873978

    That's even worse. "He's black and black people live in the jungle right?"
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:30 No.18874015
    >>18873976
    How is the character you posted not racist?

    What was the character background for a black character like John Stewart?

    How about having to be freed in by white Hal in fucking AFRICA?

    Fucking shit...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:31 No.18874024
    White characters always steal the day. Minorities are just there BECAUSE

    Fuck them.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:31 No.18874029
    >>18874013

    Fucking this. I bet their first concept was to name him Black Monkey. Racist comic assholes.
    >> DESTROYMAN !GKbYoMObTA 07/25/10(Sun)06:32 No.18874033
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    They add in minority characters and people still bitch? The show hasn't even come out yet and there's already a shit storm about adding in minority characters?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:32 No.18874046
    >Respect the fucking history.

    Why should I respect history when it's basically an endless list of ways my ancestors were fucked in the ass by various European people's?

    Yes suh massah suh, i'sa slave in a past life, i'sa strive tuh be wun 'gain!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:32 No.18874047
    >>18873905
    >>18873957
    That's because it's a matter of representation. White male characters are well represented in western media. Actually they are vastly overrepresented. So it is not really a big deal when one is changed to a non-white.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:32 No.18874050
    >>18874015
    Uh... what? Since when was that John Stewart's background?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874055
    >>18874005 You are an idiot, here's why. Everytime a black character is introduced people like you will stand up and scream: HE IS ONLY BLACK BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE BLACK CHARACTERS.

    You're an idiot. Here's why:

    Your reading comprehension is fucking awful.

    My problem isn't comic writers introducing black characters because they don't have them already. I applaud it. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby did great work creating Falcon and Black Panther. Denny O'Neil should be proud of Jim Rhodes and John Stewart.

    My problem is when comic writers do it because a comic event or a TV show makes them realize just how lilywhite things are. They should have noticed that on their own. Without TV guys saying to them "we wanted to make a show of sidekicks. We looked at the list of sidekicks you gave us. None are black. What's up with that?"
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874061
    >>18873976

    I kinda wonder how Superman's story would be different if he were black....

    Hm. Interesting to think about.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874064
    >>18874009
    He will always be a token black character as long as he is taking the place of an already established white character. They can give him a story so it "makes sense" in cannon, but everyone will know that there is another white Aqualad that existed before and was ignored so a black one could take his place.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874065
    >>18874015
    Idiot, I'm on your side! I am saying that Dust the character is racist!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874067
    I think token races wouldn't seem as token-y if they had MORE THAN ONE IN THE SAME SERIES. They don't all have to be important, even if you have a few in the background every once in a while the main minority characters would seem less out of place
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:33 No.18874069
    >>18874050
    Since you got trolled.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:34 No.18874078
    >>18874061
    Probably not all that different. Who offers up more homespun wisdom than old black men?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:34 No.18874082
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    Static shock lives in the hood
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:35 No.18874087
    >>18874064
    He's not taking the place of a really established white character. Nobody gives a shit about Aqualad. Nobody has ever given a shit about Aqualad.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:36 No.18874095
    >>18874082
    1. Static didn't live in the Hood. He had to get a bus to get to the hood. He was a few blocks away from the Hood.
    2. Also, his name was Static, not Static Shock.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:36 No.18874101
    >>18874046
    > my ancestors were fucked in the ass by various European people's?

    You know, I don't fucking know if it's because you people are American, or if it's because you people tend to forget or not give a shit, but there was a time when WHITE PEOPLE were actually slaves up in North-eastern Europe.

    The Slavic people or "Slavs", or better yet, "Slaves", were called that for a very good reason!
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:36 No.18874103
    >I will say that I created Black Lightning after convincing DC not to publish another "black" super-hero on which they had started work. The Black Bomber was a white bigot who, in times of stress, turned into a black super-hero. This was the result of chemical camouflage experiments he'd taken part in as a soldier in Vietnam. The object of these experiments was to allow our [white] troops to blend into the jungle.

    >In each of the two completed Black Bomber scripts, the white bigot risks his own life to save another person whom he can't see clearly (in one case, a baby in a stroller) and then reacts in racial slur disgust when he discovers that he risked his life to save a black person. He wasn't aware that he had two identities, but each identity had a girlfriend and the ladies were aware of the change. To add final insult, the Bomber's costume was little more than a glorified basketball uniform.

    Oh wow...really?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:38 No.18874115
    >>18874095
    >all of his villains were called Bang Babbies
    >talked like a gangster
    >had a token wangster tried to be black but failed nerdy white friend
    >the was an entire episode about how the n-word is wrong
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:38 No.18874123
    At least blue beetle might get somewhere...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:38 No.18874124
    >>18874103
    Take note that this was around the time of the first black superhero. Race relations were not exactly optimal at the time.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:38 No.18874125
    Everyone's a little bit racist... sometimes~

    Doesn't mean we go around committing... hate crimes~
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:39 No.18874129
    >>18874082
    Black people have had problems getting jobs and respect on the creators end of the books. Comics in the US didn't desegregate until fairly recently.

    Of course when you have black people who DO land the positions act like Hudlin, then there's some other problems going on.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:39 No.18874132
    >>18874101

    Yes and if not for the soviets, many slavic countries would be as advanced as any number of backwater african tribes. Luckily those communists didn't respect their history!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:39 No.18874136
    >>18874115
    Funnier, his best white nerd friend is a homosexual.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:39 No.18874140
    >>18874125

    If we could just all admit,
    That we are racist - a little bit,
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:40 No.18874144
    >>18874078

    Superman, reduced to a Magic Negro would be very sad.

    Still, I wonder how his life would have been different if he was black, landed in (mostly white) Kanas. Would the Kents have still taken him in? If the Kents were white would they have adopted him? If they hadn't, what would have happened to him?

    Or what if he landed, instead of Kansas, he landed in Central Park, was found by a family from Harlem? How would that have changed him?

    It's just interesting to think about.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:40 No.18874148
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    You know, I don't think I ever had this problem when my show was being made...but maybe that's because when my creator created me he made me FUCKING BLACK FROM THE VERY BEGINNING instead of the animators just shoehorning another token colored character into my show.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:41 No.18874150
    >>18874115
    Wasn't there every single time there was a black superhero other than him around, Virgil would bitch about how there aren't enough black superheroes? loollolol
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:41 No.18874153
    >>18874103
    Really. Black Lightning's series is a bit dated at points, but come on. The main character was an erudite college-educated teacher and poet, as well as multiple gold medal winning Olympian. That's not too bad at all.

    I think too often people assume all black characters with "Black" in their name were half-assed crap. That's not the case.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:42 No.18874161
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    Minorities get the worst fucking costumes I swear.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:42 No.18874166
    >>18874148
    How did cyborg talk, tell me.
    >> Tim 07/25/10(Sun)06:42 No.18874167
    >>18874064
    Just like how "everyone" knows that Young Justice actually had Arrowette instead of Artemis and Tim Drake and Bart instead of Dick Grayson and Wally. For this show in particular, it's useless to argue about the changes they've made because it's set in a different timeline and has a different continuity. Whether or not the original Aqualad has no bearing on the Aqualad for THIS show.

    Just sit back, watch the show, and complain if Blaqualad ends up loving chicken and watermelon and stealing shit. The more you insist that racial changes are "racist" for whatever reasons they're made, the more hesitant companies get to introduce characters of different races, especially if you're complaining that it's racist just because one Aqualad was white.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:42 No.18874174
    >>18873794
    Yoruichi is probably Black. Check out the second to last Bleach ending where the characters are dressed up like they're from the 1930s... Yoruichi has an afro. And have you see how lazy she is!? 'course she's Black.

    As for Killer Bee he is supposed to have our stereotypical traits like rapping, slang talk and being cool.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:43 No.18874176
    >>18874153
    I was about to say a multiple Olympian medalist winner poet and teacher sounded ridiculous, but actually in comparison it's not all that bad. A lot of peak human types supposedly have that potential.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:43 No.18874187
    >>18874115 all of his villains were called Bang Babbies

    ...And? They got their powers in an event known as The Big Bang.

    >>18874115 talked like a gangster

    ...

    >had a token wangster tried to be black but failed nerdy white friend

    ...

    >the was an entire episode about how the n-word is wrong

    Yeah, well, they can't all be high quality eps like "I've got Batman in my Basement."
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:44 No.18874188
    >>18874144
    See Milestone's Icon and Rocket.

    Superman lands in a cotton farm, deep south, during slavery. Alien body adapts to look like the people nearby. Grows up black.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:44 No.18874191
    How come minority characters can never have the same spotlight as white ones? A lot of the time, a minority character is just there to not seem racist but the white guy is usually the one to get all the glory and do all shit being the main character and focus with a good story.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:44 No.18874192
    >>18874166
    What, you wanted they should give him a white boy voice? They only thing that is even a slight indicator of his race is "booyah!", and that's not even race defined
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:44 No.18874202
    >>18874166
    BOOYAH
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:44 No.18874203
    Black Bomber actually sounds pretty cool.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:45 No.18874205
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    Blade is awesome a half vampire that using an Asian weapon
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:45 No.18874207
    >>18874148

    I remember cracking the fuck up at this one episode where starfire is being verbally abused because she's a tamaranian, and cyborg goes to comfort it by saying something along the lines of

    "Look at me? You think I'm not discriminated against? I should know how it feels to be treated unfairly because of the way I look. After all...I'm part robot"
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:45 No.18874211
    >>18874191
    Aqualad's the goddamn leader of the team! He's the leader of a team with ROBIN on it.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:46 No.18874220
    >>18874205
    Katana shit is worse than deagle bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:47 No.18874227
    >>18873539
    sweet, I have never seen this version of this pic
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:47 No.18874229
    >>18874202
    Dammit, don't support his stupid loose ideas when Booyah isn't a slang term that only "blacks" use.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:47 No.18874230
    >>18874188 grows up black. Becomes high price lawyer. Very conservative. No, VERY conservative. And rich. Was probably at Republican party headquarters on election night.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:47 No.18874231
    >>18874192
    >white boy voice

    No such thing exists.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:47 No.18874234
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    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:48 No.18874249
    >>18874207
    Oh fuck, that was hilarious, and slightly morbid.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:49 No.18874254
    >>18874188
    You mean a time before skyscrapers and shit?

    Superman was created by Jews. He's a fucking alien.

    You're retarded.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:49 No.18874255
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    >>18874103
    Really. Dwayne McDuffie had Vixen end up in an alternate reality where he actually exists, as a joke to fans that know the story.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:50 No.18874262
    >>18874148
    and you were sensitive to race issues, because you were part robot. seriously though, cyborg had whole episodes dedicated to him and he still had a personality of cardboard. Robot Chicken gave him more character than the entire Teen Titans series.

    PS: I also hate it when they make token characters overachievers just to make a point.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:51 No.18874272
    >>18874262
    >PS: I also hate it when they make token characters overachievers just to make a point.

    This
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:53 No.18874292
    >>18874188

    story would have been much more interesting had they kept him white.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:54 No.18874301
    >>18874231
    Yeah, sure. Believe that. It's not like people from the bronx, or people from Louisiana or South Carolina have their own white distinct voice
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:54 No.18874302
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    >>18874205
    >Blade is awesome a half vampire

    EXACTLY. The only way comic writers can feel comfortable having a cool minority comic character is if he's only HALF black.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:55 No.18874310
    >>18874255
    >c.p.t
    Fucking brilliant. Now I want more of him, he can be the white uncle ruckus or something
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:55 No.18874314
    >>18874302
    isn't his vampire half a blackula? so he's like 75% black.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:56 No.18874323
    >>18874310
    CPT?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:56 No.18874324
    >>18874302

    All of the cool blacks in real life are only half black. Prove me wrong
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:56 No.18874325
    >>18874301
    I'm always tired of bitches who think I don't talk "black enough" or "too white". There's no such thing and whites do it too. Just shut the fuck up about it.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:57 No.18874334
    >>18874302
    >The only way comic writers can feel comfortable having a cool minority comic character is if he's only HALF black.
    To be honest, the a lot of white people IRL feel that way too. That't we're only acceptable or even attractive in quantities of half black or lesser
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:57 No.18874336
    >>18874292
    Not really. It's set in present day, but the character had lived as a black man for decades. So he had all those experiences.

    And he was extremely wealthy and conservative (Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in to say he was a fan) while his partner was on food stamps and pretty liberal. They just happened to be united in their desire to fight blatant evil and try to be something people can look at and be inspired by.

    It made for interesting reading.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:57 No.18874341
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    Consider this: Who's the most recent Asian male character of any significance in the Marvel universe?

    Amadeus Cho. An weak nerdy twerp who's only claim to fame is being the 7th smartest person in the world.

    And even that only exists so Hank Pym can smugly say, "Better bump yourself down to eighth." Asians get the shittiest deal in comics.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:58 No.18874350
    >>18874323
    colored people time
    a tenet of black social life that dictates that we never arrive on time. CPT exists about 15-30 minutes behind standard time

    >>18874325
    rage...triggering....
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:59 No.18874355
    >>18874341
    Nah I'm pretty sure Native Americans do.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)06:59 No.18874356
    >>18874341
    True but Hispanics have been shafted badly for a while now. I think it could get better, probably...
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)06:59 No.18874363
    >>18874334
    Wow point was already proven by

    >>18874324
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:00 No.18874366
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    >>18874324
    The coolest black guy the is full black is dis guy!!

    <---
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:00 No.18874370
    >>18874341
    I like how that just reaffirms more stereotypes about Asians. Just like racism blacks characters get when a lot have to come from "the hood" or the fucking jungles...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:03 No.18874398
    >>18874366
    >full black

    Doesn't exist in America unless they're straight out of Africa. It's just statistically impossible.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:03 No.18874400
    >>18874324
    Nelson Mandela is awesome, man.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:05 No.18874410
    >>18874341
    You mean that guy who played an essential and integral well rounded part in The Incredible Hercules? One of the most praised and entertaining comic runs of late? How terrible Marvel make a young leading male character that stacks at the bottom of the top part of the world's totem pole! Why should a strong character be bogged down with the responsibility of recognizing there are others (like ugly gypsies) more capable than he when he possesses mental power greater than BILLIONS of people on Earth!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:05 No.18874411
    >>18874400
    >Nelson Mandela
    >awesome

    I hope to god you're trolling.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:06 No.18874421
    >>18874324
    Bob Marley, mon.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)07:06 No.18874423
    >>18874398
    genetically maybe.
    But if you came from two black parents, and their parents were both black...socially speaking you're full black
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:06 No.18874426
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    >>18874398
    Kunta kinte is awesome, but he didn't save his pregnant sheep
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:07 No.18874435
    >>18874324
    Michael Jackson

    he got LESS cool as he lost his blackness.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:08 No.18874442
    >>18874426
    You deserve a facefull of conswag* for that.

    *WARNING: conswag may contain pen.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:08 No.18874445
    >>18874411
    And let me guess, you just happen to know about him and the whole politics of South Africa, right?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:08 No.18874448
    >>18874410
    >there are others (like ugly gypsies) more capable than he

    Would you believe it took me several seconds to realize who you were talking about?

    I'm so ashamed.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:08 No.18874452
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    >>18874341

    That brings up another point though. Mutation can supposedly occur in any race so on average there should be a hell of a lot more Asian mutants in comics but there aren't or we never hear about them and they never do anything remarkable in the world.

    And it's also only Western gods and demigods that seem to show up, like Hercules or Thor, while mythical figures from other cultures are virtually non-existent or insignificant. The whole universe in Marvel is basically guided by white gods who favor white champions.

    Of course this is due to Western writers being most familiar with Western culture but that only serves to detract from the universal appeal Western comics strive to have.

    And they wonder why manga has broader appeal.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:14 No.18874502
    >>18874445
    He's a racist criminal who destroyed South Africa. The only people who can even think he's great are stupid white guilt idiots.
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)07:15 No.18874512
    >>18874502
    alright, without quoting a wiki, defend your position
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:15 No.18874519
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    >>18874512
    Oh honestly now...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:17 No.18874529
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    >>18874502
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:18 No.18874539
    >>18874512
    Look at what South Africa turned into. His insane violent ANC party killed innocent civilians plus him AND his party is getting wealthy while the average South Africa citizen is left in poverty and impoverished. This is just as bad as white people who celebrate "Kwanzaa" as a good thing.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:18 No.18874548
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    >>18874502
    -_-"
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:20 No.18874561
    >>18874512
    >>18874519
    >>18874529
    >>18874548
    No, shut the fuck up you stupid white guilt kids. Read actual history, he's not a hero. He's a monster, a racist, a criminal, and murderer.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:21 No.18874585
    >>18874539
    I suppose you prefer Eugene TerreBlanche...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:23 No.18874602
    you kids realize it's prime time in Boerland. For what it's worth, the corruption in the ANC seems to not have stuck to Mandela himself, at least in the US public image.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:25 No.18874627
    >>18874602
    Idiot American leftists and media still teach and praise him as some hero. What a fucking joke. A communist terrorist who destroyed his country and left his people in ruins is a "hero".

    >>18874585
    I'm glad he's dead is all I have to say.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:28 No.18874645
    I'm fine with minorities in comics, as long as they're villains.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:32 No.18874680
    >>18874512
    >>without quoting a wiki
    why? majority is true and there are always links to the source
    >> Kam 07/25/10(Sun)07:34 No.18874693
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    I'm black.
    Comics are comics.
    I don't bitch and moan when people can't name any other "actor stars" who are black outside of Will Smith and Denzel Washington. I accept it and enjoy white men doing all the same shit too. When there's a talented black actor coming along to fill in those roles I'll enjoy him too.

    Same for comics. I'm not gonna cry for a black leading superhero, but the day I get one, I will more than gladly enjoy his works.

    Until I realize the writer is trying bloody hard to make me understand this man is black when he's dealing with a storyline completely devoted of race related issues
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:36 No.18874719
    >>18874693
    >devoted of
    >I'm black.
    Not big surprise.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:38 No.18874737
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    >>18874693
    lol u mad
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:39 No.18874744
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    >>18874693
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:39 No.18874745
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    >>18874627
    Fergot mah pic
    >> Kam 07/25/10(Sun)07:39 No.18874746
    >>18874737
    >reaction image
    >dumb question

    Welp, yeah...
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:40 No.18874756
    I was watching batman the brave and bold one day, and there was this black character who was shooting lightning.
    I said to myself: "If his name is "black lightning" I swear to GOD" and I was cut off by his name being shouted. It was Black Lightning.
    Comic books can be retarded sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:43 No.18874788
    >>18874756
    I was watching batman the Iron Man: Armored Adventures one day, and there was this black character who was talking to Iron Man.
    I said to myself: "Tony you're gonna be late for school again!" I swear to GOD" and I was cut off by this being shouted. Tony was gonna be late for school again.
    Cartoons can be retarded sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:45 No.18874805
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    >>18874756
    Haha and his companion is an asian and she obviously has a katana
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:46 No.18874809
    >>18874745
    >no argument

    How typical.

    You can defend your murderer all you want. He destroyed his country, was corrupt, then turned South Africa into a crime capital of the world.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:48 No.18874831
    >>18874788
    I don't understand how is batman ironman? Why is he going to school, he is a millionare.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:48 No.18874835
    >>18874756
    Eh, you just learn to live with it. It's in the Comics Code, any character without the Black prefix is technically caucasian.
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)07:48 No.18874837
    There needs to be more japanese and swedish characters in mah comics, if not americans are as racists as people from norway.

    Once, norway sport fans cheered on their OWN team instead of the enemy team, which was brittish. In other words, racism.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:50 No.18874847
    Black panther is too race based.
    I bought Black Panther: Enemies of the State, expecting a cool batman-esque story.

    And suddenly all the black people are pissed he isn't trying to kill the fantastic fascists because they are white.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:51 No.18874864
    >>18874837
    Wait, norway cheering the "british" (britain is only a team in athletics comps) is racist.

    wat
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:52 No.18874878
    >>18874837
    >implying you know what racism is.
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)07:53 No.18874886
    >>18874864
    are you saying its common for cheering on your OWN team?

    How egoistical are you? next, you will say you like having fun aswell. Do you know who else had fun once? thats right. Hitler
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:53 No.18874891
    THIS JUST IN:
    THE COMICS YOU READ ARE DRAWN AND WRITTEN PRIMARILY BY WHITE PEOPLE. IN AMERICA THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC IS WHITE PEOPLE. THE PRIMARY CONSUMER OF US-BASED COMICS ARE DISPROPORTIONALLY WHITE PEOPLE. THE AMOUNT OF 'MINORITIES' (AS YOU CALL THEM - DUE TO YOUR CONFINED VIEWPOINT, AS IN FACT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THEIR ARE MORE BLACKS OR ASIANS THAN WHITES) IN THESE COMICS IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:55 No.18874911
    >>18874886
    wat
    wat
    wat
    WAT

    Seriously WAT
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)07:56 No.18874917
    >>18874891
    If only black guys are portrayed as bad people, then it can be given as an example. at least if its portrayed in such a way ALL THE TIME. But not maybe once or twice. To counter this people have good black guys aswell to not appear racist.

    Disney films are a perfect example of this.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:57 No.18874928
    >>18874891
    There are more Asians, Hispanics, and blacks in the world. Obviously the characters with the strongest powers constantly saving the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD should be statistically probably not always be white but they are... they are. Thanks for playing, racist.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)07:58 No.18874947
    Aqualad being Black Manta's son I can buy, though I don't really know if calling him Aqualad is proper, considering that he's never actually BEEN Aquaman's sidekick. You'd think he'd come up with a different name, but that's just me.

    I personally think that it's possible to add minority characters that replace white characters, and it's been done successfully a couple of times already. Green Lantern and Blue Beetle are prime examples of this. The only prerequisite is that they have to be written as characters where their race is part of who they are but not the bulk of who they are, just one aspect of many making up the character.

    Thinking about it, I think comics, not necessarily the industry but the consumers, are probably the most likely to have a widely accepted character of color with a minimum of bitching or condescension.

    >>18874805

    AND fucking ninja star hairpins. Dear god.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:01 No.18874983
    If this bothers you, get a life. Affirmative action should not apply to the creative process.
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)08:02 No.18874996
    >>18874911
    WUT WHAT AATWHHAHTHAITHATI

    >>18874928

    about 6 billion people in the world.

    China is 1.5 billion.
    india is 1 billion

    europe is 2 billion i think

    Then I dont know. But yes, in a demographic in whatever etchnity is the majority, of course the strongest and majority of superheroes is going to be the SAME, people can relate to those superheroes easier and want to keep following the comic more. not impossible with other races, its far harder to write unless you're alan moore neil gaiman or garth enn-no wait not him.
    Or unless you're jack kirby or george orwell
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:02 No.18875005
    >>18874983
    fucking racist bitch white detected
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)08:03 No.18875009
    >>18874983
    The process no
    The product? myeah probably
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:04 No.18875027
    >>18874996
    >europe is 2 billion i think

    Whites confirmed for fucking retards and racists.

    >It has been estimated that the Europe population is about 830.4 million
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:05 No.18875038
    lol I'M BLACK and I really don't give a shit what race someone is because you don't judge someone by skin color but by character. I love white people AND black people equally. It doesn't matter whether the main superhero is black, white, asian, hispanic, whatever as long as he has cool super powers to go with it. I couldn't care less whether there was more black characters or not. inb4 racist, guess what? I AM BLACK!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:05 No.18875044
    whites are the lowest populated race in the world. they're all dying off and not having kids n shit. whites need n will to all fucking die and the world be better place and shit...
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)08:06 No.18875052
    >>18875027
    Counting all immigrants its 2 billion.

    Problem anon?

    That and its more crime in europe, since the prison population is far less, yet the population is far higher. Those hidden immigrants are gigantic.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:06 No.18875054
    >>18875038
    No you aren't black, you stupid white bitch. Whites keep doin this shit pretending they black but they aint. Shut up.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:06 No.18875059
    >>18875038

    I fucking hate niggers like this, who try to pull the anti-race card
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:07 No.18875065
    >>18875052
    http://www.europeword.com/blog/europe/europe-population/

    AHAHAAHAHA

    WHITES DUMBEST BITCHES IN DA FUKKEN WORLD
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:07 No.18875068
    >>18875052
    muslims are 1.2 billion, 200 million the arab world and 1 billion elsewere. Gee I wonder where, and if anyone in any country in europ gets called out on it they are racist
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:09 No.18875096
    >>18875038
    just cus you black dont mean you arent a stupid bitch who can make opinions like you speak 4 us then use that makin your opinion better or sumthin.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:09 No.18875102
    >>18875068

    Aren't the others just terrorists who travel from country to country via flying planes into buildings?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:10 No.18875113
    Everybody fucking knows whites are the dumbest race in the world. They just keep all the other races down and steal shit from others to make themselves look "smarter". Look at that stupidass bitch who thinks there's like 2 billion people in fucking europe LOL
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)08:11 No.18875119
    >>18875065
    >WHITES DUMBEST BITCHES IN DA FUKKEN WORLD

    Ahem

    >>http://www.europeword.com

    Yes, you seem to admit it there. But like >>18875068 said, its far higher, but I dont think its just muslims or arabs.

    All other immigrants, including the ones that hides counts aswell. The original population in europe is 1.2 billion far more likely, with 800 million immigrants and hidden immigrants from afrika, arab countries, asian countries(china dictatorship anyone?) including other third world countries.

    Pretending a immigrant problem does not exist is racism in itself
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:13 No.18875145
    >>18875119
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

    YEAH SURE

    LOL DUMBASS WHITE BITCH
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:17 No.18875191
    >>18874928
    >idiot nigger who calls anyone racist that disagrees with his racially skewed view of the world.

    as i said before, these comics are made BY WHITE PEOPLE, PRIMARILY FOR WHITE PEOPLE, DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THE RACIAL COMPOSITION OF THE CHARACTERS WOULD REFLECT THAT AS PEOPLE BETTER IDENTIFY WITH THOSE LIKE THEM. of course objectively speaking if it reflected the demographics of the whole world it would be different but this isn't a census, it is art. besides it can easily explained as white people simply are genetically more prone to be super heroes. just as black people are more prone to developing sickle cell.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:18 No.18875206
    >>18875191
    >uses the word nigger
    >complains bout racism

    LOL TYPICAL DUMBASS WHITE BITCH
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:19 No.18875218
    >>18875119

    Stop feeding the troll. While I don't know if YOUR numbers are accurate, the fact that the other douchebag is just going HAHA WHITE BITCH and ignoring the part of your argument that relies on these people being undocumented should be tipping you off.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:19 No.18875219
    >>18875191
    gb2/stormfront/ fucking racist faggot
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:20 No.18875226
    >>18875191
    Holy shit, that's racist... You enjoy fucking your sister and mother you worthless inbred hick white trash redneck faggot?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:21 No.18875246
    >>18875191
    >provin whites are th emost racist bitches in the world

    TY SO MUCH

    GO GET FUKED BY YO DADDY NOW, PIECE O SHITTTT!!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:22 No.18875261
    >>18875119
    >Pretending a immigrant problem does not exist is racism in itself

    complaining about immigrants? y? dey took yer juuuurrrss redneck?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:24 No.18875287
    >>18875191

    That may be true to a point, but the only time the "by white people, for white people" argument held any weight was like 50 years ago. It may surprise you to hear this, but there are black and hispanic and asian people that write comics, and draw comics, and read comics, and perform other functions vital to the industry. To pretend this is not the case and keep going WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHITE PEOPLE is ignorant at best and Black Bomber-level retarded at worst.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:28 No.18875339
    >>18875261

    Undocumented immigration is a problem, yes. Not because minorities, but because having a ghost population that needs resources is bad for any country.

    >>18875119

    Is an idiot if they're talking about immigration in general.
    >> Kazi­klu !!xmPwI2cR932 07/25/10(Sun)08:29 No.18875344
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    It's so nice to be proven right on all accounts.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:30 No.18875378
    ITT: Proved whites are dumbracist bitches.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:32 No.18875399
    >>18875339
    This entire argument is bout whites not bein populated as other races and they aint. They outnumbered by every other race in the fucking world. You lose racist bitch
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:38 No.18875493
    >>18875226
    >>18875287

    you are both putting words in my mouth. simply saying 'you're racist' doesn't make my arguments invalid. the simple truth is that most (not all! i never said that!) comic book writers and artists in North America and Britain (which i'm sure most people here are reading) are white and that most of the readers (not all) are also white. I would also hazard to say they are disproportionally so on both counts. My girlfriend of 2 years is asian so to simply imply that i am a stormtroll or something and hate all non-whites is incorrect. and to the black guy who's whooping and hollering on every post that disagrees with his sentiment, which i think is that 'all white people are racist', you have added nothing to this conversation except more reasons for some people to have reasons in this belief.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:38 No.18875499
    >>18875191
    >these comics are made BY WHITE PEOPLE, PRIMARILY FOR WHITE PEOPLE, DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THE RACIAL COMPOSITION OF THE CHARACTERS WOULD REFLECT THAT AS PEOPLE BETTER IDENTIFY WITH THOSE LIKE THEM.

    I gotta wonder how true this is. I mean, my favourite characters are mostly not white, and I have no trouble relating to them at all. No one I've talked to has really said 'man I just can't relate to these characters because of the colour of their skin'. It's mostly just wanting more diversity for a more interesting cast.
    >> Kazi­klu !!xmPwI2cR932 07/25/10(Sun)08:43 No.18875564
    >>18875493

    How can you read this thread and not be racist against niggers is what I'm wondering.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:48 No.18875624
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    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:52 No.18875666
    >>18875493

    Okay, so you're ignorant. That's good to know, because then it's a matter of discussion and not just LOL NIGGERS(Not that you were doing that either).

    The problem with that logic, though is that there's more nonwhites getting into comics all the time. Your argument holds weight back in the 50's to probably the 80's, but nowadays it doesn't so much.

    The whole "white people relate to fictional white people better" thing only really works when you apply it to those characters of color that are more caricature than character. It's also an issue of class relations, where a middle-class suburban white kid COULDN'T relate to an urban black jive-talking superhero because they'd likely never seen a black person firsthand aside from as servicepeople. Nowadays there's much more racial blending amongst the classes(though it's nowhere near equal) so a person of a different color isn't so foreign. That coupled with the glorification of urban culture that we've been subject to for the past two or three decades means that relating to a character has more to do with how they think and act than their look or setting.

    The fact that changing a character's race JUST to change their race to not white is offensive still stands, but if they do introduce new characters or rework old ones it's not a big deal nowadays.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:52 No.18875670
    >>18875499
    what are your favourite characters that aren't white? obviously people would never say that, but it's unconscious human nature. one relates better to those like him. look how in europe jesus was more commonly portrayed with nordic features and in china buddha was usually portrayed as looking chinese. do you think the chinese would continue to worship an idol that looks indian? it would have been less than ideal for the common man.
    i have no problem with more racial diversity in comics but i do have a problem with people acting like the fact that there isn't much right now is some sort of injustice that white people should be ashamed of, when in fact in most if not all cultures do the exact same thing. i'm tired of this white people = racist rhetorical doublspeak.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:52 No.18875678
    Its like I'm really on /new/
    >> The Black /Co/mr/a/dette !125yThb17s 07/25/10(Sun)08:53 No.18875695
    >>18875678
    thing is, the early thread was actually decent. Then the newfags started waking up and...you know the rest
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)08:54 No.18875703
    Wait people still care about a character's race in comic books? Are we still in 1642? What the fuck man?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)09:02 No.18875810
    >>18875670
    Blue Beetle, Cass Cain, Patriot, Ryan Choi before he died. They're all pretty cool. Jaime's my favourite but the only thing I have in common with him is... we both, uhhh... are human.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)09:04 No.18875835
    Wait a goddamned second.

    How is OP's pic related?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)09:05 No.18875853
    >>18875810
    Jaime is awesome. He acts like a regular second/third generation American. Just a regular kid, who happens to be attached to a beetle.
    >> Dreamslayer 07/25/10(Sun)09:47 No.18876459
    >>18875218
    troll or not, having him as a source of fun proves both the point and you're having fun in the process.

    People in United kingdoms and not just britain want to post photos of cute dogs in the newspaper without fear of being called racist because it goes against someone else belief system.

    Which is ironic in itself. Because our belief system which we consider as important as they consider their religion and their belief system, is that we should be able to post cute dogs and its a good thing. Dogs are clean, the prophet was wrong, its very simple. Same thing for every other religion then islam.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)09:50 No.18876488
    >>18876459
    When in britain, do what britain do. Dont want to? Thats fine. Whats not fine however, is to force britain to do what you want to do.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)09:55 No.18876556
    What's OP image?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)10:02 No.18876651
    >>18874103

    OH WOW.

    I'd read it.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:22 No.18877797
    >>18873890
    Because Asian women are interesting characters that can appeal to comic readers. Mind you, the comics industry and fanbase largely consists of white guys. Asian women are seen as cool and compelling to have.
    >>18874341
    Well, he's the Prince of Power now. But frankly, I never saw the appeal in him besides tagging along Hulk and Herc like a pint-sized Asian Rick Jones.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:37 No.18878122
    >>18874452
    >And they wonder why manga has broader appeal.
    Doesn't matter. Manga's overrated and comics have an entrenched position worldwide compared to manga.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:40 No.18878175
    >>18874452
    >And they wonder why manga has broader appeal.

    If you're talking about mainstream mangas, just like you're talking about mainstream comics, then it's all the same crap.

    Both genres have the same problems.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:42 No.18878224
    Sauce on the OP's image?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:50 No.18878406
    >>18873938
    >"Black people love that Black Panther Party right? He's the Black Panther!"
    Actually, the character of Black Panther predated the Black Panther Party. It was a coincidence that an African-American movement called itself the Black Panther Party.

    >Founded in Oakland, California, by Bobby Seale and Huey P. Newton on October 15, 1966, the organization initially set forth a doctrine calling primarily for the protection of African American neighborhoods from police brutality.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

    >The Black Panther (T'Challa) is a fictional character in the Marvel Comics universe. Created by writer-editor Stan Lee and penciller-co-plotter Jack Kirby, he first appeared in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_%28comics%29
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:50 No.18878409
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    Need some sauce OP.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:54 No.18878477
    18874452

    >implying manga doesn't focus on Eastern traditions and legends.

    and wait.
    Broader Appeal? The fuck are you talking about?
    >> Sky !sb/o.9igQ2 07/25/10(Sun)11:56 No.18878536
    holy hell this thread is still up!

    Also for those who want sauce on pic I have no idea.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:57 No.18878556
    >>18878477

    He seems to be confusing what broad appeal is.

    >We don't have many comics based on Eastern traditions and legends, but manga does so it's broad appeal! HURP DERP!
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)11:57 No.18878561
    >>18873794
    That's because there's barely, if any, Black people in Japan.

    Almost all the "white" characters in Manga are supposed to be Japanese.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:00 No.18878607
    >>18878561
    >Almost all the "white" characters in Manga are supposed to be Japanese.
    If the character has white skin, blue eyes, and blond hair, they don't look Japanese. Why don't Japanese just draw themselves? Or do they secretly desire to be white?
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:01 No.18878622
    don't worry in the future all the white people is going to become the minority
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:02 No.18878639
    >>18878607
    >If the character has white skin, blue eyes, and blond hair, they don't look Japanese. Why don't Japanese just draw themselves? Or do they secretly desire to be white?

    Because they find blonde haired and blue eyed heroes exotic or something like that.

    It's why you see a lot of JRPGs with blonde haired heroes.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:03 No.18878645
    >>18878561
    >Almost all the "white" characters in Manga are supposed to be Japanese.

    "Almost all" is a bit much. Some of them are, but quite a few are supposed to be white. Edward Elric, for example. Generally if they have black or brown hair that means they're supposed to be Japanese.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:05 No.18878675
    >>18878556
    >>18878477
    Maybe the anon's referring to how manga appeals to girls with shojo shit? I read a little manga, and not the overhyped weaboo crap. I read Berserk, 3x3 Eyes, Psychometrer Eiji, and 20th Century Boys so manga does have more genres than the shonen fighting and slice-of-life shit that weaboos spam about.
    >> Anonymous 07/25/10(Sun)12:05 No.18878681
    >>18873606
    you're a namefag, nobody gives a fuck what you think



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