They've tried this before.

It will only last less than a fraction of a millisecond.

What could possibly go wrong?

either that, or some mad scientists or terrorists steal the laser and turn it into a Death Laser or something.

Less than 10 years. That was fast.

> By inciting a fusion reaction, they hope to create a sustainable source of energy on Earth
Because it doesn't take a shitload of energy to induce fusion or anything. This is totally viable.

>>16351205
This.
1: It cannot expand, energy does not work like this.
2: It burns SO FAST, they will record a massive flux of energy for a millisecond.
3: If it does work, say hello to terrorists.

WE SUPERNOVA NOW

The power of the sun in the palm of my hand.

The scientist will end up killing us all and the world as we know it someday.

WE HALF LIFE NOW

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

>>16351230
>Because it doesn't take a shitload of energy to induce fusion or anything. This is totally viable.

It's not like most of the energy for the planet isn't already provided by an ongoing fusion reaction 93 million miles away, fucktard.

>>16351257
Yeah, fuck cheap energy!

>>16351257

And just because a bunch of luddite morons think you shouldn't, doesn't mean you should stop.

On a semi-related note, would you be willing to eat cloned/cultured animal or plant cells?

>>16351257
>Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
EXACTLY ITS JUST LIKE NUCLEAR REACTORS THEY ARE INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS AND CAN DESTROY THE WORLD DID YOU KNOW THEY MADE BOMBS OUT OF NUCLEARS THAT COULD DESTORY A CITY

>>16351287

Why not? They'd be identical to regular plant/animal meat, wouldn't they?

Bring on cultured human meat!

>>16351287
If you're American, you already do.

>>16351287
Yes. But only if I can bio enginner another arm.

>>16351287
Theyre not going to ask us. Theyre just going to put that shit into the stores and we'll eat it. Same thing with those experiments, nobody asks what the people wants. They just do shit without asking because theyre "scientists".

>>16351270

Damn right. My grandfather drilled for combustible dinosaur goo, my father ran most of his life around combustible dinosaur goo, and by god, we're gonna use combustible dinosaur goo until it becomes prohibitively expensive, runs out, and ends civilization as we know it!

2012 anyone?

>>16351287
Wouldn't that be much more expensive than just growing the stuff the usual way?

inb4 this goes horribly wrong and makes the first superhuman.

We should name him Solar Centurian or something.

>>16351312
>Implying fossil fuels are liquid dinosaurs

>>16351322
then whose fossils are they?

>>16351287

Cloned? Certainly. I don't know why you'd invest all that effort, but sure. It's the same shit, genius, by definition.

Cultured? Well, depends a lot on what they're "culturing" it for. If it's, say, developing a strain of wheat you can harvest more often and which therefore can feed an increased population on the same acreage? Fuck yeah.

Sorry, I love science and I don't fear progress, because I'm not a raging faggot.

Are they gonna contain it with 4 robotic arms?

>>16351333
It's mostly cycad trees and such from the pre-Dinosaur times. Same with coal.

>>16351333
They're angel fossils. Oil is a gift from God.

>>16351322
>Implying you should provide high levels of detail while mocking morons.

>>16351352

Naw, it's still from dead stuff, but since the world is only about 6,000 years old, it doesn't take as long to form as those pinko faggot "scientists" tell us, so we don't have to worry about it "running out." How retarded would that be?

>>16351318
>Solar Centurian
it's Centurion
And the name doesn't quite...I dunno...work.

>>16351345
Only if they are mad.

Are they stupid or something? Don't they know that Spider-man isn't real so there will be no one to stop it?

I'mplying we wouldn't name him Captain Sunshine

>>16351193
Yeah because making a fucking sun on earth sounds like a fucking amazing and great idea.

Nobody wants a fusion generator anyway.

>>16351383
>Spider-man isn't real

lol tell me another one anon

>>16351395
Fucking science, where has it ever gotten us?

>>16351395
Fuckin scientists, they always lyin and pissin me off.

>>16351395
>ZOMG DA LARGE HADRON COLLIDER GONNA MAKE A HUGE BLAK HOLE AND KILL US'M ALL

This is how retarded you sound, just for the record.

>>16351193
And why do we need this?

>>16351420
Did you even SEE Spider-man 2?

>>16351416
>implying that scientists are super human and always right about everything.

>>16351408
>Fucking science, where has it ever gotten us?
It's the only thing that allows you to continue living as you do today. It's the reason 2/3rds of Humanity hasn't starved to death. It's the reason you will live past the age of 40.

>>16351420
It's obviously a loose plot point created to explain the origin of one of earth's future heroes or villains.

>>16351438
>implying they aren't

>>16351420
I DON'T KNOW MAN ITS LIKE ALGEBRAS AND GYMMETRY ITS BULLSHIT MADE UP STUFF THAT WE DONT NEED BUT THEY DOIN IT ANYWAY JUST TO FUCK WITH SHIT

PRECIOUS TRITIUM

>>16351443
And it's about damn time.

>>16351416
>he acts like it's perfectly safe

FUCKIN STARS

HOW DO THEY WORK

Fusion reactions have been started before, there are dozens of ongoing projects.

It's perfectly safe, the trouble is keeping it going and making it provide net positive energy.

But I prefer the project to build power sources out of artificial black holes, now that's superscience. You can even use them to power starships.

>>16351334

I'm not anti-GMO crops, per se, but the talking point about using them to feed more people rings hollow given the actual applications of genetic engineering thus far.

Would I support cultivating GMO crops that actually increased yields? Sure, if caloric scarcity was a physical reality and not just a matter of distribution governed by the logic of capital accumulation rather than basic nutritional need.

Do Monsanto and other companies working on plant genetics actually create seeds that significantly increase crop yields? So far, no. GMOs have largely been used so far as weapons to corner seed markets through the application of intellectual property law rather than as tools to feed the hungry.

>>16351455
If people are really worried about scientists exploding the world, they really need to check out some other, much more likely world-ending scenarios.

>>16351205
Lets hope the Tokamak reactor at Cadarache will work !

>implying you can use miracles as a power source

>>16351545
they obviously don't understand how miracles work

>>16351469
>starships powered by artificial black holes

Isn't that how the Romulans do it? I know at least one of the Trek races does that instead of the matter/antimatter reaction contained by dilithium method.

>>16351591
Probably given that the Romulans developed Warp long after the rest

>>16351420
>And why do we need a reliable source of cheap energy?

Are you retarded? What rock have you lived under since, like, the 1960s?

>>16351591
It's actually a synthetic protostar.

This is how they power their Warbird ships.

THE POWER OF THE SUN IN THE PALM OF MY HANDS

/sci/entist here. It is not going to work, by the way. Spoiler.

>>16351591
i do NOT support any method used by dirty romulans

ITT: People use a product of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to complain about science.

>>16351650
"/sci/entist" isn't a very clever moniker. Then again, a board for math and science really can't be expected to be creative.

>>16351680
good one bro thats so ironic

>>16351682
The hate, where does it come from?

>>16351713
shut up, nerd

>>16351713
From haters

>>16351713

There are several admonitions to the effect that haters shall endeavor to engage in hate-based activity throughout the forum, O My Brother.

I don't know of no Romulans but what I'm talking about is an actual paper
http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.1803

Obviously speculative but they done the math and such, pretty mind blowing.

>>16351680
>implying the internet was invented by DARPA

>Black holes
>as a powersource

Just how would that work, exactly?

>>16351876
Hawking radiation

read the paper it's 20 pages, less if you skip the math

>According to Hawking, black holes (BHs) are not really black, but radiate what is approximately a black body thermal spectrum. The energy emitted is negligible unless the BH is very small, in which case it becomes extremely energetic. The purpose of this paper is to investigate whether it is possible to build artificial BHs of the appropriate size, and to employ them in powerplants and starships.

>>16351876
You just shine a flashlight at it.
Like, it sucks energy in one end?
And it blows it out the other?
Basically it's, like, a giant box fan that blows you through space.

>>16351682
/sci/entist is the cleverest because it makes the most sense. What does being a /co/mrade have to do with liking comic books? For our nickname, there's a double entendre.

Also, I guarantee you I am more creative and at least as artistically gifted as anyone. The science and math board isn't filled with geeks - it's mostly filled with people who are intelligent and gifted in ALL areas, barring the trolls of course.

>>16351940
FUCK YES SCIENCE

>>16351940
>Some dude said that aliens exist

>>16351974
I was sort of just screwing with you, but most of those name kind of make sense. Like /v/irgins, /b/-tards, /k/ommandos, fa/tg/uys etc.

I suppose folks are called /co/mrades because /co/ is love and whatever.

>>16352030
I know it is. But I still say /sci/entist is the closest sort of moniker out of every board. Every other name depends on being "close enough": /b/tard - retard, /k/ommando - commando. fa/tg/uy is pretty close too, but it should be two words.

>>16352030
>I suppose folks are called /co/mrades because /co/ is love and whatever.

No, as this thread proves, it's because they're godless fools.

2012? Right on time.

>>16352168
I'm... not sure that makes a lick of sense.

>>16352133
To me, it seems as though that would be like us being called "/co/micbookfans", despite it being accurate, it's still shitty and unamusing.

Just saying though.

The power of the sun... in the palm of my hand.

>inb4 this goes horribly wrong and makes the first superhuman.

>We should name him Solar Centurian or something.

>and will exert more pressure than 100 billion atmospheres

So... it will explode?

>>16352168
and thats the way I like it

and I love this thread.

I agree /co/mrade is a little weird compared to the others, but it's still the best option we have. At least we have it better than the /fa/ggots.

>>16352503

I dunno, in my head, you're all /co/cksuckers.

>>16352452
1 million exploding suns?

This thread needs more tritium

>>16352586

A morning filled with 400 billion suns?

>>16352587
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>>16352650
OH GOD I CAME

>>16352650
UNNF UNFFF UNFFF YEARHG!

OH GOD IT FEELS SOOOO GOOD

>>16352650
>>16352650
>>16352650
MY PRECIOUS TRITIUM

So will this experiment create some supervillains? Finally?

>>16352690

What in the fuck compels scientists to try all this shit that could rip apart the goddamn universe?

Seriously, those are some arrogant motherfuckers.

>>16352650 h3-molecule.gif
>> h3-molecule
>> molecule

>>16352800
FUCK YOU IT'S TRITIUM

>>16352776
>pretending this could rip apart the universe

To answer what compels scientists, though...

Knowledge isn't additive. It's multiplicative, even exponential. Adding one fact to a list of a hundred isn't 1% better. It's not even 100% better. It's thousands of times better. We never know what piece of knowledge will be crucial in years to come, or help us make sense of something that has been a stumbling block for ages.

We set out to seek knowledge, not because we know immediately what beneficial applications it will have, but because we never know what beneficial applications it will have, and what beneficial discoveries may happen accidentally along the way.

Why do we drive gasoline-powered vehicles today? Because someone did exhaustive research into the uses of gasoline? No. We had the shit lying around. It was a byproduct of making kerosene, and no one had a good use for it, so it was cheap when people experimented with internal combustion.

By the same token, a lot of scientific advances we think are spiffy aren't really the result of The Search For That Thing, they're byproducts of the search for something else entirely.

>>16353004
>That Thing

>>16353032
sorry I didn't get it

>>16353032

Tireless scientist. Always trying to find out the nature of reception in the modern world. Note, he never asks if they have That Thing. He is not interested in their possession of it. It is only vital to know whether they GOT That Thing he Sent Them.

CAN WE PLEASE JUST BUILD A MOON BASE TO PERFORM THESE SCARY FUCKING EXPERIMENTS ON ALREADY??

>>16353188
as soon as a guy builds giant cybernetic arms to preform those said experiments

>>16353188

Nope. We need the fusion power plant to make the moon base feasible. Sorry.

And they're not scary fucking experiments. It's just a bunch of reactionary morons not paying attention to or understanding the actual science being research or the technology employed to do so.

>>16353274
i aint no science wiz but it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that black holes are bad and if you make one close to earth we's gonna die

>>16352005

Of course they fucking exist you idiot

Look at the hubble deep field photograph

>Representing a narrow "keyhole" view stretching to the visible horizon of the universe, the Hubble Deep Field image covers a speck of the sky only about the width of a dime 75 feet away. Though the field is a very small sample of the heavens, it is considered representative of the typical distribution of galaxies in space, because the universe, statistically, looks largely the same in all directions. Gazing into this small field, Hubble uncovered a bewildering assortment of at least 1,500galaxies at various stages of evolution.

Each galaxy has millions of stars and there are more GALAXIES than sand on the beach, there are probably millions of civilizations in that simple photo and it's just a speck of sky

And they're all extinct because it represents a snapshot of the universe millions of years in the past

But you think you can discredit Stephen fucking Hawking with a snide ignorant comment based on your ignorance and reruns of encounters of the third kind

>>16353332
>i aint no science wiz
You got that right. Now stop posting.

>>16353353
>Each galaxy has millions of stars
More like trillions, bro

>>16353368
well fuck you too mr science man

jeez i thought scientists were supposed to be cool mellow people like carl sagan

>>16353274 We need the fusion power plant to make the moon base feasible.

lol no

>>16353398
They are. There's just no scientists on 4chan. Go look at /sci/, it's just a massive HURPDURPfest.

>Implying aliens exist
Take off that tin foil hat, bro

>>16353332
>i aint no science wiz

This is the only part of the sentence you got right. There are black holes all over. They aren't "bad". Creating micro-black-holes isn't that bad either, as they'll have about the same impact as moving a fleet of carriers on the other side of the earth. But, again, you don't know enough science to get that "black hole" doesn't mean "enormous ravening rip in the fabric of space time that sucks in planets and stars". A tiny black hole is going to evaporate long before it's a threat to anyone or anything.

>>16353453
you just went full retard

>>16353433
All the new boards are turning out to be disappointments, aren't they?

>>16353453
>Hurrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>16353332
>i aint no science wiz but it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that fires are bad and if you make one in an engine we's gonna die

>>16353477
>stephen hawkings
>hawkings

>>16353469
Where is your proof?

>>16353332
>>i aint no science wiz but it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that lightning strikes are bad and if you make them travel through wires to our houses we's gonna die

>>16353470

Well /news is doing a good job of containing the political bullshit and racists that escape /b.

>Aliens actually existing in real life
Are you motherfuckers serious?

>>16353378
That just proves his point even more.

>>16353378
Billions, trillions, I tried looking it up but I couldn't find a reference on what the average galaxy represents, but yeah, big numbers. Multiplied by big numbers.

Just because stories of alien abduction are nonsense doesn't mean the galaxy is empty, that's a category error

>>16353332
>it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that black holes are bad and if you make one close to earth we's gonna die

The paper suggests building them orbiting the sun, but aside from gravity it's just like any other rock in the sky, put it in a stable orbit and it keeps going in the same direction it doesn't magically swallow everything (Unless you get close enough, but they're small so it's fairly close)

>>16353490
still full retard

Look mang there's life in other galaxies or reaches of our own we might never explore properly, it's nigh impossible for us to be the sole kind of animal or organism that has this level of sentience or organization, ya fucking christfag

>>16353332
>>i aint no science wiz but it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that fungus is bad and if you make a drug out of one we's gonna die

>>16353453
No one said they're landing here or anything, but there's anywhere from 10 sextillion to 1 septillion stars in the universe. That's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars. Let's say each had only 5 planets. You're telling me that out of all those planets we're the only one that has life? We've found single cell organisms on moons in OUR solar system and on Mars. To think that there aren't aliens is extremely ridiculous.

>>16353494
that is a huge fuckin difference and you know it

stop tryin to troll me, i already got told off by some jerkass scientist

>>16353548
No proof, no deal

>>16353562
What makes you think life is not unique to this planet?

Hell, they have not even been able to find Earth like planets, only gas giants.

Get out of here with your crazy alien bullshit

>>16353568

The only difference is that you understand the ones making fun of you, and you don't understand the other. Every single advance in science has been met with reactionary bullshit like "THIS IS DANGEROUS UNTAMED IN THE WILD IN HUGE AMOUNTS! THEREFORE WE SHOULDN'T LEARN HOW TO HARNESS IT FOR OUR BENEFIT!"

>>16353576
That's not even the reason you are a dumbshit though. You said "cool tinfoil hat bro" as if people are paranoid about aliens taking over the planet or something.

You know, as if your only knowledge of astronomy came from old-ass scifi movies.

>>16353576
We've found single-cell organisms on other planets. That is extra-terrestrial life.

>fire burning for millions of years and growing bigger as time goes by rather then grow smaller
wat

>>16353576
There's no god then, because of no proof ya christfag

>>16353568
>stop tryin to mock my stupidity, i already got told off by someone with a clue

Corrected. Just because someone understands basic principles of progress doesn't make them a "scientist". It's not like being a "christian", you can't just have a basic idea what you believe.

>>16353628

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation#Black_hole_evaporation

You're still a retard.

>So called scientists calling someone a christfag because he calls them on their lack of proof.

Seriously? I though you faggots were all about the proof.

>>16353607
that's becase not everyone int he world is a certified fuckin 5th degree pshysicist with recommendations from hawkins and tesla and psionic powers derived from marie fuckin carie

the commonfolk are gonna doubt you of course cause they dont know this shit. they know as far as "sun = star so if we make a star here we's all gonna burn up"

you gotta be a bit more tolerant man

>>16353604
As a reasonable person, nothing makes me think that it's impossible for Earth to be the only planet capable of sustaining life. It's just very improbable.

>>16353604
>he thinks we haven't found earth-like planets

>>16353624
lol, making up shit now?

>>16353604 Hell, they have not even been able to find Earth like planets, only gas giants.

lol no

>>16353660
>>implying I'm not laughing at you or that there is proof and this is not just a big troll off

>>16353660
>>So called scientists

Called by whom? People who understand science are not "scientists." It's not the name of a sect. It's a job title. Everyone on earth uses science and its fruits every day, it's just some people are afraid of the bits they don't personally understand.

>People who actually believe Avatar was a documentary

>>16353641
i was never fuckin tryin to disprove the guy, i just wanted to know how this shit would work cause up to my knowledge i just thought they were tryin to kill themselves by makin black holes

jesus, you cant fuckin learn science now without pricks callin you out on everythin?

For all the people using the size off the universe as proof extraterrestrial life exists: It doesn't work that way. Just because it's highly probably there's something out there does mean there actually is. Also, it's entirely possible even if there is life out there there's none in our own galaxy and we will never ever come in contact with another species.

To people saying "Oh noes black holes!!1" Mini black holes form in our atmosphere on a regular basis. We don't notice because they only last an instant and are very small. Scientists would have to make a friggin huge one for it to have even the slightest effect on earth. Stop panicking.

>>16353693
Aliens are real, right?

Are they watching you right now, bro

>>16353576
It's called logic. Of course there's no proof, but there are educated theories, which are a lot better to go by than "no proof, no deal".

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

>>16351205
>>16351233
Scientists don't know as much as Vorked Larfleeze and co.

>>16353671
>that's becase not everyone int he world is a certified fuckin 5th degree pshysicist with recommendations from hawkins and tesla and psionic powers derived from marie fuckin carie

Yeah, because that's required to understand someone else's work, or a Wikipedia page.

I don't have to tolerate people who think their ignorance is a good reason to curtail progress. The fact that you're a retard may entitle you to special classes at school, special treatment by the state... but it doesn't entitle you to go "ZOMG STOP I'M TOO DUMB TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO I THINK IT'S BAD!" and expect to be obeyed.

>>16353715
Actually believing aliens exist is crazy

since we have scientists on the board, let me ask this

explain this shit right here

>>16353576
Proof doesn't work that way. Even if you have at least one occurrence, that doesn't show any kind of trend. Similarly, just because there is not physical/direct evidence, doesn't mean it isn't true. As we've already found single celled organisms on Mars, that's far more evidence of life being on other planets than your side has put up. Additionally, there is the statistical analysis of existing planets in the universe which many people have cited.

0/10 you troll.

>>16353730
no they're watching YOU masturbate, whilst eating popcorn with ceiling cat bro.

Aliens and cats love popcorn bro

>>16353755

Miracles.

>>16353731
God exist now?

This will be amazing if it actually works...I kinda hope it does work now.

>Hopefully, this star will be able to act as the primary power source for the upgraded CERN large hadron collider.

>>16353713
>i was never fuckin tryin to disprove the guy, i just wanted to know how this shit would work cause up to my knowledge i just thought they were tryin to kill themselves by makin black holes

>i just thought they were tryin to kill themselves by makin black holes

>i just thought they were tryin to kill themselves

So, are you trolling, or just painfully retarded? I'm not entirely sure, because there are people out there who seem dumb enough to think this.

>>16353748
well jesus tap dancin crhist man, i'm sorry but i just dont got the interest for it

listen i wasnt tryin to be ignorant i was just tryin to understand this whole fucking shit.

jesus fuckin DOC OCK making black holes and shit.

still you were a huge prick about it

>>16353783
When did he stop existing?

>People thinking that just because the galaxy is vast that there has to be intelligent aliens

Sorry, thats not how it works

>>16353750
Look at me, I believe that the cosmos are ruled by a giant crazy lady with a luminescent fruit and no one can stop me.

As if believing in aliens is so far-fetched when compared with the most mundane religions.

>>16353799
When he became all

>>16353814

How do you know?

>>16353685
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article6934078.ece

>>16353797
uh it was a figure of speech


jesus, it was a freakin joke stop being so antagonistic aaaaaaaaaa

>>16353835
How do YOU know?

On a totally unrelated topic, does anyone have the propulsion system for a small space ship?

>>16353814
I don't think anybody in this thread said that alien life would be intelligent or sentient.

>Aliens and god real
Alright, this thread just got really retarded.

>>16353851
How does anybody know?

>>16353798
>listen i wasnt tryin to be ignorant i was just tryin to understand this whole fucking shit.

Few people try to be ignorant. The thing is, you have to try NOT to be ignorant.

And what you said was

>i aint no science wiz but it doesnt take stephen hawkings to know that black holes are bad and if you make one close to earth we's gonna die

That's not trying to understand a goddamn thing. That's "LOL I'M DUMB SO THIS IS BAD!"

>>16353864
Uh, they did

>>16353851

I don't know.

Nobody knows.

>>16353879
Where?

>"Science" with no proof whatsoever
Really?

>>16353889
Then who was the receiver?

Surely he hasn't delivered the answer

>>16353900
A few posts ago

>>16353755
I can't even begin to understand what forces are at play here.

>>16353879

Not the people who actually believe there's alien life out there. It's just what they were accused of believing by the strawmanning morons.

The original idea was "LOL Hawking is so dumb and not to be trusted because he allows for the POSSIBILITY of there being intelligent life in the universe!"

>>16353875
well since you took the time to (very asshole-ish like but still) explain how it works then HEY I GUESS I WE MIGHT NOT BLOW OUR SHIT UP AFTER ALL

Meh, Carl Sagan was far cooler.

the life on mars thing isn't conclusive, we have

a) Chemical reactions in the Viking lander samples, very peculiar but it could be just chemistry

b) Micro fossils in meteors that came from mars. They sure LOOK like bacterial remains but they're basically just tiny little holes

There have been other sightings of gas plumes, weird spectra, etc but nothing conclusive. Still there's a good chance there's some life in Mars, even if it's just contamination from earth.

Europa might be a good spot, it has 60km deep oceans.

Terrestrial planets> Yes we have found some, it doesn't make the news anymore because they're finding hundreds now, the first ones were gas giants only because they were easier to spot but they're finding all kinds of shit now, including a solar system where the planets orbit in the wrong direction relative to their star, which is WEIRD

>>16353921
Nobody made any mention a few posts ago of there being intelligent/sentient life outside of Earth.

>>16353814 Sorry, thats not how it works

It actually is. It's simple probability. Even if the probability of something occurring is low (in this case, intelligent life on a planet), if you increase the number of events (in this case the number of planets) then the probability of the specific event occurring approaches 1.

>>16353755

Player swings bat. Momentum built. Player pushes one end of bat backward while letting go. Objects tend to travel in a straight line unless constrained. The center of gravity for the bat wants to keep going on the same path. One end wants to go backward. The center of gravity continues, so the ends spin around it.

It ain't rocket science, son.

>>16353993
well let me tell ya son i been tryin to do it for a WEEK now and i fuck it up

busted my elbow too

>>16353930
>HEY I GUESS I WE MIGHT NOT BLOW OUR SHIT UP AFTER ALL

>black holes
>suck things in
>blow our shit up

>>16353981
Probability is not proof.

There is a small probably that the Mayans were right, and Xenu will come down from Mars to fight Godzilla and Zeus.

It doesn't mean its likely to happen or that they exist.

Probability is funny, a star going supernova is so fucking rare it only happens once in a billion years in a billion stars or something ridiculously unlikely.

The thing is there are so many fucking stars that if you look into the sky your chances of seeing one going off every night are reasonably good.

The probabilty of life existing is nonzero, because here we are, therefore it's out there, somewhere. We don't know the numbers so it could be ridiculously common or rarer than supernovas by a factor of a billion, but you can still look at the goddamn deep field picture and be certain there's a few in there

>>16354008
it's a turn of phrase implying we kill ourselves

jesus are you really gonna bust me on THAT?

>>16353930

Damn, there you were, minding your own business, being a giant ignorant dick, and people had to come in and get all mean at you? You poor child.

And the probability of some things IS zero, like superman giving you a hug

It's not gonna happen.

Sorry.

>>16354028
See, you're just confused. He's talking about when something is actually probably, but you are comparing it to the exact opposite: something that is practically impossible. The event you described is so improbable that it is basically impossible, whereas the event he is talking about is practically assured. Neither outcomes are certain, but neither is anything else so you know, get used to it.

>>16354084
i fuckin know right?!

geez the nerve of some people

>>16353981

It doesn't matter how close it gets to 1, it doesn't matter how likely something it, until you have proof or even just good evidence you can't say anything for certain. Yes, it is extremely likely there is life, intelligent or otherwise, out there. It's almost ridiculous for there not to be. But we still are lacking strong evidence and so the high probability of their existence doesn't prove anything.

>>16353958

Don't stars reverse rotation a few times during their life? The planets probably originally were going in the same direction.

>>16354136
>just be glad I haven't mocked your horrible spelling, grammer, punctuation, etc, etc.

>grammer

*facepalm*

>>16354064

Obviously. For every dumb thing you say, I'm going to bust on you. In this fashion, I hope you learn to associate saying dumb shit with being made fun of, and attempt to say less dumb shit in general. It's a public service.

Hell, just be glad I haven't mocked your horrible spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc, etc.

>>16352133

/lit/erates.

beat you.

this shit will give superpowers to everyone, if you think internet have changed the world, just wait when these things are going to be used on a daily basis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmS0Q7jTPsk

>>16354159

I don't know what you're talking about. No such post was ever made. You're mad, mad I tell you.

>>16354136
actually i can type with perfect grammar, i just dont do it on 4chan cause...

well i'm a lazy fuck to be honest

also
>grammer

>Don't stars reverse rotation a few times during their life? The planets probably originally were going in the same direction.

No... they're STARS. They're pretty big, and heavy. There's no mechanism for them suddenly doing the cha-cha-cha and turning the other direction which is why scientists are baffled since a solar system forms off a rotating accretion disk and everything should be going in the same direction except for the odd captured outsider rock or planet

>>16351395
why? we've done it before.

>>16354161
i fuckin saw that bro!

you cant hide from me!

>>16354028
The formation of intelligent life has already happened (see: us).

None of your examples have happened.

Therefore, extra-terrestrial life is probable.

>>16354217

You're a crazy man. No one will believe you.

>>16354206
Maybe that solar system is in the other hemisphere of the universe where galaxies flush backwards.

>>16354239
he did it! you gotta believe me, he made a typo!

he's illiterate! ILLITERATE I TELLS YA!

>>16354206
Maybe we're going the wrong way.

>>16354274

i aint no grammar wiz but it doesnt take william safires to know that typos are bad and if you fix one close to 4chan we's gonna die

>>16354312
alright now yer just bein silly

let's just drop it man.

>>16354028
But for simple life, the probability isn't small. As I just said, even if the probablity of life occuring on one planet is small, there are a massive (MASSIVE) amount of planets, and so the probability actually approaches 1.

I have to retract what I said about intelligent life. I don't know how improbable that is.

>>16354278

You realize that the post you're replying to explained exactly why stars and planets rotate in the same direction and axis, right?

>>16354210
What am I looking at?

>>16354347
Based on limited understanding.

>>16354371

Errr, perhaps. But given that all but one discovered system supports the theory, it's far more likely that the one system is the unusual one, than that all the systems heretofore known are the aberrations. Admittedly, our model may be inaccurate, but it makes a solid amount of sense in the context of all the known systems and galaxies.

It's POSSIBLE that tomorrow we'll find out that "gravity" was just God keeping his infinite hands in place to push things together. But for now, the system we have models known behavior a little too accurately to go "Well, maybe there's no such thing as Gravity."

>>16354171
What is this?

>>16354028
Those pieces of evidence are based on things that haven't happened, and while those are in the realm of "possibility" the probability of those things listed is on the magnitude of probability of at least trillions or quadrillions if not more.

On the subject of proof, can you prove that you're not just some retarded troll?

>>16353604

You sure are arrogant

Lawrence Livemore National Laboratory in California

I've been trying to get a job there for two years, hope the hiring spree hits again in DOE

>>16354171
It's like some one broke reality.

ITT: Everyone is being trolled by one samefag that is making fun of people believing in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.


C'mon /co/, we can be better than that!

>>16354596

I don't know about EASILY. As I said, it's possible that Everything We Know Is Wrong, it happens fairly often. But to say that one datum being different out of thousands isn't the outlier is... well, illogical.

This thread is sure pretentious

>>16354735
I'm just saying there are cases where everything has matched up then there's one outlier that makes the theory questionable. The fact that it's there at all is enough.

>>16354557
>Believing in aliens
Tell that to a normal person, and see what sort of looks you get.

>>16354964
>normal
They're all weirdos

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU--

On another note, if it succeeds we'll make bombs or space lasers with it. (If someone can make a buck off of it, because no science that can't be sold and monopolized ever gets off the ground)

If it fails, we might make a few snide remarks and move on... or a point singularity occurs sucking everything for a mile into a smoldering ball of screaming super-compressed nothingness. Either or is cool with me.

>>16354964

If you're Stephen Hawking, you get rapt attention and nods of assent.

Principle of mediocrity, we're nothing special, there's trillions (European trillions, not the weakass american ones) of rocky planets in the Goldilocks zones of stars identical to ours. Those planets have proteins and minerals and physics identical to ours.

Experiments like Miller & Urey prove that matter tends to organize in the presence of energy, prebiotic elements appear on their own.

Which is not the same as saying Men In Black is a documentary