Who doesn't, really?

only tolerable one was III

I really like Episode 3, and believe that 1 and 2 only exist to pave the way for the good one.

They were fine not as good as the originals but not terrible.

There are parts of each that I could enjoy. Tiny parts. Slivers, really.

My only real complaint is that, honestly, I had always kinda thought that the Empire was older, and that Vader was a bit more bad-ass.

Good only for the fact that everything about the prequels except for the movies are gold

I thought they were fine. Everyone gives them shit, but if they were made first, they would easily praise them just as much as 4-6 do.

Palpatine is what made Episode 3

>>15694770

Eh... I beg to differ. But, hey, we'll never know. Thankfully.

I honestly don't get the hate on Star Wars prequels and on Lucas in general.

I think people hate these movies just to be cool and hip.

>>15694766
Well he had about 20 years to be badass before Episode IV.

one sucked
I didn't watch two
three was pretty good

This first one was a kid's movie.
The second one was all kinds of badass.
The third one was a disappointing angst and plot hole fest.

I liked the lightsaber fights.

they sucked

Canonical issues.
Altered perception on the Jedi from brave guys with some special abilities who need determination and skill, to crazy hyper powered dance fighters.

Anakin Skywalker
Padme
both acting as hams.

Lack of perceived effort into the films, where the first were handmade dedicated efforts, this is a heavily green screened affair.

1 sucked
2 I can't remember, I have the box set I just never got around to watching it again
3 was awesome, saw it twice when it was in theaters

>>15694813
Did you grow up on the prequels?
And do you have an opinion on CGI?

First one was bland
Second one was freaking cool shit.
Third one was like watching Twilight or something.

>>15694813

Or maybe, just maybe, they're pretty darn lousy.

One sucked... Big time. Liked Maul though.

Two... End was epic when the clones came in and kicked ass.

Three pissed me off the most, many people liked it for the twenty or so minute lightsaber fight. I hate it just because it was sloppy acting, and horrible dialogue. That, and why did Anakin turn so easily and then killed his wife? I was like WTF.

Plus I did envision the Empire to be much, much older, hell it seemed like its been around for hundreds of years not just a mere eighteen. But that's my complaint of them so far.

they hate u

I'm a pathetic fucking Star Wars fanboy so I can enjoy Episode I. A lot of the shit it got was well deserved though. And with time it does get harder to overlook the cheesier moments.

I do think Episode II was really good and enjoyed watching Obi Wan go off on his own detective work, and the truly epic feel of the movie. And I thought Episode III was great.

>>15694917

This.

I hated them because the first one was just ridiculously slow and boring until the very end, Jar Jar was retarded, Anakin piloting the ship like a mad pro made no sense whatsoever. The second one was just as slow, and Anakin was so damn whiney for no good reason. And the third one he just seems to have absolutely no logic whatsoever. There were points I liked, but overall, they were crap.

All were godawful pieces of trash. The plots were only set ups for really bad CG fight scenes. Honestly they were all so bad for so many reasons. It wasn't just things like Jar Jar, but the entire structure and the writing were awful

1 & 2 weren't very good (at seven/eight years of age, I came home from episode I severely disappointed. Something I'm quite proud of). Three would be on par with RotJ if it wasn't for the awful, awful acting.

Also: the CGI has dated horribly, even for some parts of Episode III.

episode 2 was the best, just because it had an undercover vibe to it. of course it was also full of a stupid anakin padme love story that I really couldn't give a shit about

1 was pretty awful, 2 was cool but the whole "your not sand" bit was just horrible, love 3 cried when anakin dies, mainly because i was like 9 and watched it with my dad and brother

>>15694888
>>15694917

No I have seen the originals and they are good and all but not OMG this is pure amazing stuff like people make them out to be.

CGI doesn't bother me that much. Star Wars Elitist think otherwise apparently though.

I just hated how...Meagre Anakin's fall was.

From the original films you get the impression was was something epic. Plus the prequel trilogy made the dialogue between Vader and Obi-Wan in Hope makes no sense.

People only hold the original trilogy exalted over the prequel trilogy because they remember the originals as better than they really were.

>>15694982
The originals are well told stories, and absolutely amazing technically for their time. Well made too.

why did they kill maul, they should have kept him over Dooku. I like christopher reeve but i didn't think he was good in tthat, Yoda fighting was also a shambles

>>15694977
9? That was only 5 years ago.

Get off 4chan amigo.

I liked all six. People just hate on the prequels cause it's "in" thing to do.

>>15694977
>cried in episode three
>I was like 9

dude you're 14? what are you doing on a site like this?

>>15695003
the book had more to it, and it was still lacking. He should have been slipping in II.

>>15695006
Except no.

>>15694982
Yup. The people that shit on the Star Wars prequels have the biggest nostalgia goggles ever. Nothing could ever live up to the hype that built up after 16 years.

And had the darker Episode II come first, I bet the response would've been different.

>>15695003
Yeah, the fall was really terrible.
"I see vision of her dying"
"Kill children"
"You got it chief!"

>>15695050
>>darker Episode II

Episode II was actually lacking in darkness quite a bit. A third of it easy was Anakin/Padme love story.

Shit acting

Shit plot

Shit characters for the most part

Most hilarious part, was Padme dying after giving birth purely because of a 'broken heart'. No physiologic explanation, just heartbreak...so near instant death

>>15695006

This it's the same with Transformers fans they think G1 is the best thing ever when really it's a terrible show.

>>15695011
>Christopher Reeve
>laughingelfman.jpg

>>15695075
Transformers The Movie was pretty awesome

>>15695016
oh sorry just realised that, i was in Year 9 at school (Britfag)

I like episode 3 for how high it tried to fly and would rather have something reach for something and fail then not even try.

Jar Jar was actually an ok character.

>>15695075
Really, that's a fair comparison?

Transformers G1 is full of animation errors, continuity errors, discontinuity between the show and toys, and some really stupid plots.

The original trilogy does have it's faults, but it's still a well written heroes journey.

>>15695071
Well it did have that, and a Tusken Raider massacre, so it evens out.
>>15695073
I never took the "broken heart" thing literally. She was force choked after all so who knows if that caused complications in the pregnancy.

>>15695050

I didn't see the originals until after Episode 2, originals are better

>>15694977

underage... on my /co/?

Let the b& commence.

Star Wars was never that good to begin with.

I personally find the comics and the games more compelling than any of the movies.

>>15695085
*Lee

>>15695132
Isn't that what the doctor bot said though?

So you're supposed to take it literally.

I don't get why everyone gives 3 a pass. The plot was the biggest fucking cop out ever and Anakin and Padme were completely unbearable. They completely ruined Grivous and turned his fight into a big snore. The final fight between Anakin and Obi Wan was also pretty hammy and overtly greenscreened.

>>15695163
I'm glad I'm not alone in my hate for 3.

Two is pretty enjoyable as long as you fast forward past anything involving the love story. But three is just a mess.

>>15695016
>>15695023
>>15695140
its a place for discussing comics, its not /b/ guys

>>15695142

I'm okay with this.

The games add more depth to the universe than Lucas did in all of Star Wars Movies.

Hell I would kill for a movie about the Old Republic, but until Lucas kicks the bucket, we're going to have to wait for that.

>>15695126

Honestly the originals are a joke to look at, they aren't that good in fact some of it is just cringe worthy and does not hold up well.

>>15695162
Like Obi Wan said, "If droids could think, there'd be none of us here." Maybe it was a half assed reference to some spiritual, force related shit. If not, that needs fucking retconning.

>>15695132
>>Well it did have that, and a Tusken Raider massacre, so it evens out.

No, it doesn't even out. the raider massacre has no visible lasting effect on Anakin again. He's cracking jokes and being heroboy later in the film.

You only get a handful of SECONDS of the scene as well, versus nearly a third of the film to romance scenes.

Episode 2 was not dark.

>>15695207
>>originals are a joke to look at

Okay, back it up.

>>15695142

1st part I disagree, 2nd though, I have more EU books than I know what to do with, good stuff

brievous kinda sucked it was like, double sided (awesome), dual wield (cool...) 4 and a fucking cyborg with a cancerous cough (...)

>>15695198
One often overlooked game is Star Wars: Bounty Hunter for PS2 and Gamecube. It gives the backstory of how Dooku contacted Jango, how Jango got Slave I, and other cool shit.

If you're a hardcore Star Wars fan and have one of those consoles you should own that game.

>>15695243
Have you been reading recent EU?

>>15695243
Damn, me too, a lot of them I never read. I'm so starting a new Star Wars book soon.

Pretty pointless, considering we know what happens.

And not nearly as fun as the original three.

I think everyone has their heads up their asses, the movies were good and entertaining. People are so hard to please, god dammit.

Best things to come out of the prequels:

Darth Maul
General Grievous
The Clone Wars (the original game, the comics, the cartoon, not that CGI crap or anything associated with it)
Jedi combat being more awesome than informal fencing.

Everything else can GTFO.

Those three don't have Han Solo. Therefore, they will always be inferior.

I really liked Episode II and III
I didn't care for Phantom Menace, although the pod race, Maul, and the music were awesome

I was the suck.

II was bad. Kung-Fu Yoda was awesome, but the Padme+Anakin thing was the most fucking awkward thing EVER.

I cried during Episode III. Seriously. Cried. Tears streamed down my face, as I asked myself "This? This piece of shit movie explains how the Jedi died? Him? This bitchy cunt becomes Darth Vader?"

>>15695207

Lolwut?

You're joking right?

They'll hold up better than the shiny special effects laden pieces of shite that passes for the prequels. Seriously, what movies did you see? Cause the acting in the originals were 10x better than the prequels, they were serious in tone, and the characters were... I dunno interesting? You, sir, need to see those movies again.


Also... inb4youmad.

>>15695296

Also, Palpatine/Darth Sidious

So whats so great about Star Wars anyway?

>>15695006
nah dude. the origanal trilogy was just good film-making. it's about the pacing, the characters, the cast, the story devices, they all mesh together really well.

the new trilogy is just flashy explosions, they try and cram the emotions down your throat and dumb it down so the 'kids' can enjoy it.

you know how many big climatic set pieces empire strikes back had? one huge land battle and one big chase scene and one big duel at the end. but that's all you need, because it's more about the characters and the heros journey and the way the universe is turing than the action.
episode 3 had fight after fight after fight after fight. and they had no room left to let the eb and flow of their characters develop naturaly so they just try and cram the emotion into big sobby monologues. and the film still ends up being longer than empire.

loads of people make the argument that everyone who likes the origanal trilogy more than the prequel trilogy is wearing nostalgia goggles, but it's just not the case

>>15695290

Entertaining... Perhaps.

Good... No.

>not that CGI crap or anything associated with it

check out the second season, its basically a heel face turn from the first shitty season

Eh, I guess it depends on how old you are.

My kid brother and his friends love the new movies, but get bored by the originals.

I didn't see them until I was an adult, so I guess I don't have nostalgia goggles.
I enjoy them all about the same really.

>>15695273
Same problem here, I have all of the Legacy of the Force books sitting on my shelf and I've barely read them

anakin should have had a red lightsaber for 3 just because
No need for gratuitous religious imagery and child murder
PAdme shouldn't have sucked so hard
No Jarjar, more BossNass and Wotto
Jango should've had a better fight scene (his was great though)

The Phantom Menace Review made me hate the first one even more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

The only good thing to come out of the prequels is the prequel universe it created. That and the Clone Wars animation that seems to try to correct the shit the prequels made.

An entire military is defeated because the good guys found one flaw in the design of their uber-weapon. In who's mind was that good story writing?

why does everyone hate CGI, its an effective, affordable way of making unrealistic looking events look realistic, i have no problem with them using CGI in the prequels, it was better than the saber fight in ANH

I fucking hate them too.

>>15694706
Coulda been good if George Lucas didn't do everything himself and just executive produced it, if he just wrote the basic story outline or even the first draft of the screenplay and let other people handle the directing duties and editing like in the original trilogy, they would've come out a lot more smoother. It might not've been the crackpot version George dreamed of, but they would've had a better reception.

>>15695392

Anakin Skywalker was a whiny bitch because of no fucking reason. Try again.

>>15695402
Because they flooded the films with it, and there is a noticeable difference between the CG backgrounds with the actors on a 5 foot platform, and the actual sets of the previous films.

>>15695300

Harrison Ford is the same in every movie there's nothing special about him.

>>15695402
Practical Effects are much cheaper than CGI.

They just require more skill and expertise.

>>15695422

>>15695422
0/10

I never gave a crap about Star wars and probably never will. I've tried looking at the movies the new and the old ones and I just can't get into them.

>>15695449

Smart man.

>>15695392
they just blew up that one weapon and then got their asses kicked for a while. if anything the real bullshit is the Empire being brought down by ewoks

>>15695319
>>15695346
You two need to chill the fuck out. Movies are just something to pass a couple of hours with, and if they make you wanna watch till the end, then they have succeeded.

>>15695428
>>15695439

Prove me wrong then we can talk. Otherwise just saying I'm a troll is bullshit.

I liked them, I don't see why people bitch so much about them though.

I guess its the thing to do on the internet, like with Avatar.

>>15695469

True. But when they make you spend nine bucks to see two hours of something terrible, that is two hours of your life wasted.

They are just movies

>>15695469
Woah, sorry, didn't mean to quote one of you.

I'm drunk.

Why is this war being fought on foot? Where are the bombs and air to ground bombing runs? Where are the fucking stealth nukes from outer space?

You all DO realize that Episodes 5 and 6 weren't directed by Lucas? His influence in the prequels is so much less than everyone realizes; he actually had people limiting his creative input, which turned out to be a wonderful thing.

It's the reason Han Solo isn't a space lizard.

>>15695402
cgi isn't bad, bad cgi is bad

regardless of how bad Transformers was, it actually looked like the cgi was interacting with the characters and landscape. That is good cgi

in Star Wars all the best looking stuff was just meandering in the background and nobody really ever interacted.

Honestly they are just as bad as the original, cheesy Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies.

If you take them seriously at all, then you are retarded,

>>15695329
it's set in a distant galaxy where an intergalatic war on freedom by an evil all powerful empire has left the galaxy a poor and angry state of mashed together aliens and humans alike.
during which a bored teenage farm boy/prodical son teams up with a wise old master who fights with ancient magic powers and mystical weapons, a space pirate and his hairy beast of a sidekick running and gunning from the law and an alien mafia, a moody princess of a destroyed world who is also a commanding force in the only rebelion opponent who can threaten the empire and two gay robots in order to take the empire down.
along the way to success they infiltrate space stations, learn from ancient masters, fall in love, go to war on the frontlines of alien worlds, escape bounty hunters, alien creatures and imperial soldiers alike and dogfight with laser shooting spaceships!

what's not to like?

>>15695535
There is still time to make that happen. Ford and Lucas are still alive.

>>15695525
All in the Expanded Universe.

>>15695472
Prove yourself right, if you can.

>>15695525
in case you haven't noticed Star Wars isn't exactly as hard pressed to represent technology as other sci-fi settings. Star Wars is only barely sci-fi

Each of the prequels were on par with Return of the Jedi, which, in my childhood's opinion (I was 13 when Episode RotJ came out), sucked ass.

If I had to give an absolute ranking of my personal enjoyment of watching each for the first time, I'd have to rank the Episodes: V, IV, II, III, VI, I

Lucas + cool creative team = awesome movies
Lucas + yesmen creative team = not so awesome, but still cool movies

/thread

>>15695586

Isn't like science fantasy or some term like that?

>>15695535
I love how people hate Lucas now, and say that it would be better if he was not involved at all, even though without him none of this shit would even exist to begin with.

>>15695599
Space fantasy.

>>15695616

Wouldn't mind that, I would still have my Alien, Terminator, and Jurassic Park to love.

>>15695618

Bingo. Thanks amigo.

>>15695589
Return of the Jedi was the best, go die

>>15695645

I beg to differ, Empire Strikes Back was better.

>>15695586
That's the joke.

>>15695645
One word:

EWOKS.

>>15695637

All of which now have awful sequels. No difference, really.

>>15695637
Wait, so if you don't care for any of the movies, why watch them at all and bitch about them on the internet?
Were you forced to watch them?

>>15695645
>Return of the Jedi was the best

>>15695674
I like the Ewoks.

>>15695664
agreed.

a new hope was second best,
and RotJ only really got good during the balls to the walls awesome space battle at the end. everything else was at best average and at worst ewoks.

ADigitalMan's edits of the prequels make them all pretty good. Even Episode I.

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

>>15695674
What about them?

They are just as goofy as any other alien in Star Wars. Hell, as kid I loved them and can't hate them even now.

>>15695680
That boy ain't right, I tell ya hwhat.

>>15695694
i agree, the beatdown Luke gives to Vader is the best bit of all the films even if rotj isn't the best

I hate them. I hate them I hate them I hate them.

>>15695680
Second

I love how everyone think they are so fucking hardcore now, and have to hate them.

They range from bad to mediocre.

>>15695738
That's so tsundere of you to say.

I thought the aliens in Jabba's palace were way more annoying than the Ewoks. Especially that furry thing that was always hanging around and laughing at everyone.

Wait a second, I just realized something.

Since the Death Star II blew up right beside Endor, wouldn't all of its debris fall onto the planet, wiping out every living species?

>>15695708
peasant care bears taking on a trained platoon of super advanced space soldiers armed with laser blasters and 20 ft. high walking metal tank monsters

...and winning

it's just such bullshit stupid

Star Wars IV V and VI are the simplest examples of storytelling to the sense where it is so open, that a whole universe came from it.

Star Wars: A New Hope -
Incredibly mysterious if watched as your first Star Wars Film. It's also the best example of a story that started like a mythological story tell. Like Odysseus of the Odyssey. A story of a Journey. It was magical. And once again, if you never saw the prequels, then the movie made you ponder and think, and want to know..

Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back -
I find this to be the more dull one for me, but the more I watched it over the years, the more I've learned to respect it far more, and want to watch more and more of it. The "hero's journey" is now confronted with the hardest tasks of yet. This movie was all about the Villain winning. In every way possible. To those who didn't watch the prequels at this point. This experience was devastating. To know that Darth Vader and his empire, Won. If you did watch the prequels, you said "well that's just because Anakin's the chosen one, he can do that type of stuff." And because of that, the impact of the empire winning, is buffered.

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi -
One of the greatest movies ever conceived. Taking the two plots of before, and completely tying up all loose ends in a glorified finale of Vader protecting his son. It was mind blowing that Vader would have a heart. Once again, the impact and shock of all three of the original movies is buffered down if you watch the prequels first.

Part 2 coming Soon.

>>15695798
Dude, everything about Star Wars is fucking ridiculous.

Seriously, did you even watch the movies?

Relax and enjoy them for what they are.

>>15695798
It worked in the American revolution. Yes, the British did have imperial walkers; check your history book.

>>15695846

>>15695798
Yes, because the force, lazer swords, and some untrained boy destroying a war base the size of a moon is so realistic.

>>15695840
I disagree

>>15695798
Really, did you miss the point completely about guerrillas?

>>15695891
Well, then you are a moron who takes silly space movies too seriously, and hates simple fun.

I'm sorry, bro.

>>15695891
It's more ridiculous than Warhammer 40k.

What are they doing inside the Death Star that it had to be the size of a moon? Is there really so much clerical work in the empire that the needed all the office space they could get? The gun doesn't take up much of the space.

>>15695944
it was supposed to be scary

>>15695944
Maybe a generator to charge up the laser?

>>15695886
yeah dude, they shot proton torpedos into a reactor exhaust port that caused a destructive chain reaction resulting in the destruction of the death star.

they explained all that on screen, did we watch the same movie dude?

>>15695942
Now you're just being stupid. Nothing is more ridiculous and over the top than 40k.

>>15695962
The generator isn't much more than the shaft down to the middle, which Obiwan manages to reach on foot rather quickly considering how big the place should be.

>>15695964
It is still fucking stupid though.

>>15696009
You forget that most 40K faggots think it's actually supposed to be serious and the grimdark is actually legitimate and not parody

>>15695932
I think the ewoks fighting the empire and winning in the RotJ was stupid and put across a piss poor ending therefore I hate fun and am a moron?
this is your argument? seriously?

>>15696035
Hell, many faggots around here hate Star Wars because is not like 40K with the ridiculous grimdark and everything else.

Someone was actually arguing that Avatar should have been like that, how do you miss the whole fucking point of a movie like that?

>>15695944
And that's why the Emperor created the Eclipse. It's powerful as the Death Star and is a little smaller than the Executor.

>>15696058
Dude, now you are just bitching for the sake for bitching.

Oh I get it, you are just trolling with reaction faces.

Sorry, continue, I'll just move along.

>>15695637
>No Star Wars
>Still have Terminator

You do realize the original trilogy is what gave sci-fi a chance as a medium in film, right?

>>15696182
>move on
yeah you do that

The rifftraxes for the prequels are much better than the ones for the original trilogy.

>>15695836

The Prequels are cult movies to me, they are for Star Wars FANS that want more information about the mythos of Star Wars. Excluding the Medichlorians, excluding the gratuitous amounts of special effects, and cluster-fuck of the screen, it is a valid explanation of the events pre-dating the Original Trilogy. However there is one big difference.

Structure.

Star Wars Episodes I, II, and III, have NO structure without the original three.

Star Wars Episode I -
Wither people will admit it or not, the movie relied on the knowledge of the original movies to allow you to comprehend on what everything is. Secondly, it was HEAVILY written with politics in it. The Galactic Senate? Really? You mean to tell me, we went from Space Knights/Sage + Cowboy + Damsel of distress, to, government bullshit? Sure there was a princess in distress, but for fuck sakes. The people that had her hostage look like fucking morons. The plot was completely A.D.D., no flow that could be comprehended the first time, and Star Wars fans had to watch it several times to make any sense of it. Even George Lucas admits that he put too much in it at once. He should of just sicked to the basics, making multiple story lines at once in feature length movies is unwise. I mean look at Spiderman 3

Part 3 coming soon

>>15696265
I love Rifftrax but why are they actually tearing apart good movies now?

>>15696436

Star Wars Episode II -
A simple Phrase can be said about this movie.

"One step forward, Two steps back"

Clones appear, action packed, Anakin's internal struggle with his mother, Mystery everywhere. Shit's gettin' good! Then you realize, wait. Who made the clones in the first place? You mean there's back-story to the back-story? What the hell is wrong with you? Anakin suddenly old enough to date Padme from being a kid in the first movie? Yet Padme looks like she's 16 years old. Did we really need a back story to Boba Fett? I don't know. It just felt like this movie was trying to suck on the fan's cocks till it was dry. All while trying to make a comprehensive story.... and once again, too many stories going on at once. but at least it isn't 4 like the first one.

At least there wasn't as heavy politics, while there was more-so more military. Lucas must of been sucking off CNN.

Part 4 coming soon

Whatever happened to that subplot about the Jedi losing their ability to foresee stuff? Was that just an excuse for them to have been oblivious about what was going on?

>>15696964
>Always uncertain, the future is.

I like em all.

Though anyone who thinks 1 and 2 are good films should be shot.

Although if you cut out all anakin skywalker in ep1 and padme in ep 2. It's quite enjoyable.
particularly darth maul and jango fett.

>>15696479
Maybe they want to give the newest garbage time to age?

I can never stand Padme in the original trilogy. You are a senator, start acting like one and stay out of the action scenes! Leia was a princess, but she was raised in a war so she has a reason to be kickass. Padme has no business ever to be holding a blaster rifle.

>>15696891

Star Wars Episode III -
Instead of calling this movie the best of the three, I call it. "The one that tried to hard and ended up looking like a douche" The movie was good, finally, but it has too many flaws STILL. The only good parts were when it was getting closer and closer to the original trilogy. I find that hilarious in a cynical way.

Wanna know something funny /co/ look at the Prequel trilogy cover that OP posted. Do you see anything that relates to Episode I or II? I don't. It literally means that this movie is the only one that matters. In fact... the only true moment that really matters... is the fight between Anakin and Obi Wan. At least to the people that made the box art. In fact, I hate these two covers. It's so unimaginative.

Part 5 Coming Soon.

Supposedly there's a transcript of Lucas and Spielberg hatching out the Indiana Jones script with Lawrence Kasdan. George and Steve are excitedly throwing out bad ideas and Kasdan is bringing them back down to things like pacing and structure.

>>15696035
What's your opinion of ciaphas cain?
Taking it serious, making it funny?

if you can't stand the prequels or the current Clone Wars series, imagine how bad the live action TV series is going to be