>>884604
Those who consume green meat die even sooner.
It's appalling. Please people, just say no to green meat.

Yep, I've been trying to eat less red meat lately. In fact, I am right now attempting to convert my beef and barley stew into chicken and barley stew. Smells good so far.

>>884604
Thought everyone here already knew this.

In certain seafood-eating regions of Japan, Italy, and other countries, the life expectancy is through the roof compared to the U.S. and other typical Western societies where meat consumption (and dairy consumption that continues into adulthood) are common.

In pre-modern Japan, puberty hit much later for both sexes and life expectancy was even higher relative to other countries (all of whose life expectancies where shit compared to today, thanks to medicine). But with Western diets becoming more and more prevalent in Japan, heart disease rates are skyrocketing.

Over generations, red meat and dairy will make a population physically larger, but it will also cut their lifespan.

Half a million, can't say this is some lone tiny isolated study.
Fucking chew on that fatties.

>>884638
whatever. female here, i've been a vegetarian my whole life and i hit puberty at 11

I'm vegetarian and if this study scares any meat eaters then they're stupider then I thought.

Moderation will never kill anyone. OP is a fucking idiot.

>>884648 female here
Okay, expectations lowered.

> i've been a vegetarian my whole life and i hit puberty at 11
Wow, 11 years. Were the past 5, 10, 15 generations of your family also vegetarians?

>>884685 I'm vegetarian
Expectations once again lowered.

> if this study scares any meat eaters then they're stupider then I thought.
I'd be surprised for other reasons, primarily that red meat is fucking delicious and would be hard to give up for most people I know.

> Moderation will never kill anyone.
Okay. Go buy a tub of hair-grade cholesterol on your next trip to the beauty/ugly parlor. Take it home. Eat it in moderatioHHHHHHNNNNNNNGGG.

Failing that, just do a volume comparison of the cholesterol in a steak or pack of bacon compared to spoonfuls from said tub of cholesterol. Then ask yourself why statin and sterol research is so lucrative, and why Lipitor and its eventual replacement drugs are the biggest thing in pharma right now and in the near future.

>>884702

>Wow, 11 years. Were the past 5, 10, 15 generations of your family also vegetarians?

Genetics don't work that way...

>>884604
Too many of your calories from fat: cancer and heart disease. Really there's no story here. This has been well-known for quite a while now. The only story is that stupid people keep on killing themselves.

>>884704
Easy to say and wrong. Major changes are possible within even fewer generations, but the example societies with the traditions of eating from the sea I mentioned go back a very long time.

If you want to argue the point, at least elaborate.

I hit puberty at 14. I had a balanced diet of meat/dairy. You people be crazy, bra.

>>884709Too many of your calories from fat: cancer and heart disease. Really there's no story here. This has been well-known for quite a while now.

That's a myth and it really needs to die.

>>884604
Yes, eating tons of meat is bad for you. But it tastes wonderful. This is a board about cooking, not health and wellness, where people discuss that which tastes wonderful, hence much discussion of meat.

Please direct any further threads along these lines to /fit/. Thank you.

>>884638But with Western diets becoming more and more prevalent in Japan, heart disease rates are skyrocketing.

>Over generations, red meat and dairy will make a population physically larger, but it will also cut their lifespan.

Western diet = tons of carbohydrate and sugared snacks. Red meat is not the culprit, humans have been healthy for millions of years eating just that.

>>884738 humans have been healthy for millions of years eating just that
And some humans have been much healthier than those humans for thousands of years by eating better than that.

>>884728
Generations, mang. What you ate as a child can only affect growth, and even then not completely (obviously).

Isn't it more expensive to eat red meat everyday?

>>884745
Red meat sure, but it pisses me off that at the safeway near me, I can often get chicken cheaper than I can broccoli. Well, it doesn't piss me off if I want some chicken.. but it sure pisses me off if I want some god damned broccoli!

Hunter gatherers + red meat + exercise = feelin' fine

Sedentary Westerners + red meat + drive everywhere = blargh i'm ded

I'd rather be happy for a little while than miserable for a long time.

Bring on the bacon.

>>884748
Take some anthropology courses. Hunter gatherer =/= tons of read meat.

yet another agenda driven study that proves nothing and plays at trying to make statistical evidence appear to be fact.

Simply dye your meat blue

>>884749
I love delicious pig was the other white meat

>>884749
I hear that.

I don't understand why you fuckers keep trying to find ways to take away enjoyment in life just to live longer. Fine go live longer unhappily while I enjoy everything there is. Fuck why would I want to live 10 years longer anyways? Its not like I can do exciting things when I'm 80 or 90. The world is pretty fucked up as it is, I don't want to see what it'll be like later.

>>884787
Dear future grandkids,

Sorry I couldn't live to see you being born. You see, in my youth I enjoyed the flavor of beef.

Love,

The grandparent you never knew except from stories

>>884820
>Dear grandkids I'll never have,

>Sorry I couldn't live to see you being born. You see, procreation is for suckers.

>Love,

>The grandparent you never had because you don't exist

in b4 raw-food veganism (LOL)

>>884820
because grandparents of today totally avoided beef
there are so many vegans and vegetarians who are old and not pretentious middle-aged assholes who look pale and starved

I'm not sure why any of you even care about living 10 years longer when you're 70. Have you not been following the progress of technology? Think about what the world will have available 30 years from now. I just got done reading an article about how Brits have made / are about to make synthetic blood made from stem cells.

How long before you think they can just manufacture a heart cultured from your own cells, making it virtually identical so there's not even a question of your body accepting the transplant?

Think about even saying synthetic blood 30 years ago and how outrageous it would be.

Over generations, red meat every day have a higher risk for overall death, death from heart disease rates are skyrocketing.

>>884846

Yeah, now imagine you do kick it at 70 because you just HAD to have a fucking steak. Three years later they figure out how to download your whole brain and upload it into a fresh young body, and for dirty cheap. WHOOPS!

>>884846
yay technology
though i wonder if this will just make everyone lazy and not care.
.. eat like shit: get lipo and a new heart, get laser surgery to make scars invisible: you're brand new!

I suspect the cancer increase is caused by the iron.

According to this study. 49876 of those 71252 people would have died anyway. The difference of the people who died who ate red meat was 21376, thats about 4% of the people in the study. So their scary number of you being 30% more likely to died actually means your chance of dieing is only increased overall by 4%, up from a 10% chance, to a 14% chance.

Remember this is for middle aged people, over a ten year period. They might have died from cancer or CVD not directly related to their intake of red meat.

And who the fuck eats red meat EVERY DAY? Fat fucks thats who. I don't even think Ted Nugent eats red meat every fucking day. Not like it would matter for him, he EXERCISES.

I would like to see a direct link to this study. And see if it even mentions the lifestyle of the people who did die.

i'm in your troll thread, eating only heart-healthy beef.

you guys are really sensitive about your health. its pretty much a given that meat is bad for you, if this study tells you anything you didn't already know then i don't know what to say...

I like red meat more than I like not dying.

>>884922
>heart-healthy beef
LOL wut.