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    13 KB Don't eat meat. Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)22:19 No.3594890  
    Meat will kill you. So will milk and cheese.
    You have been warned. Don't die /ck/.
    >> Sceak !!LciZj2frsW6 05/05/12(Sat)22:21 No.3594894
    They can't hear us, they're high.

    Let them take us all and end this misery.
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)22:23 No.3594896
    what are you on about now
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)22:26 No.3594902
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    I expect to die at some point.

    23 oz. USDA prime strip = my dinner, it's good to have a grocer that always has prime steaks
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)22:33 No.3594916
    >>3594896
    >on about now

    No one knows what the fuck you foreign cunts are talking about and we don't care. Jesus Christ aren't there any 15 year olds where you live to launch a chan? There's tons of them.

    Yurofags are the latest plague, there shitposting all over the fucking place now. You guys came like four years too late, try to fit in somewhere else like ebaums.
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)22:34 No.3594919
    >>3594902

    need to sear that fat cap boy
    >> zorz !!CqAF5u8VcWt 05/05/12(Sat)22:47 No.3594933
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    >>3594919
    >>3594902

    I don't even need to say it.
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)23:08 No.3594955
    >>3594902
    Looks boring as fuck. Congrats.
    >> Anonymous 05/05/12(Sat)23:09 No.3594956
    >>3594902
    shit bro what are you doing
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:06 No.3595066
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    > Traditionally, the Maasai diet consisted of meat, milk, and blood from cattle. An ILCA study (Nestel 1989) states: “Today, the staple diet of the Maasai consists of cow's milk and maize-meal. The former is largely drunk fresh or in sweet tea and the latter is used to make a liquid or solid porridge. The solid porridge is known as ugali and is eaten with milk; unlike the liquid porridge, ugali is not prepared with milk. Meat, although an important food, is consumed irregularly and cannot be classified as a staple food. Animal fats or butter are used in cooking, primarily of porridge, maize, and beans. Butter is also an important infant food. Blood is rarely drunk.”

    > Electrocardiogram tests applied to 400 young adult male Maasai found no evidence whatsoever of heart disease, abnormalities or malfunction. Further study with carbon-14 tracers showed that the average cholesterol level was about 50 percent of that of an average American. These findings were ascribed to the amazing fitness of morans, which was evaluated as "Olympic standard".

    You have been warned. Don't be a faggot OP
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:22 No.3595084
    >>3595066
    You can't compare a Maasai diet to a USA diet.
    There's no way.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:27 No.3595087
    >>3595084
    >Facts that contradict me do not count
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:29 No.3595091
    >>3594916
    Best nutrition advice I ever got was from a Euro. Get your shit straight, jackass.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:35 No.3595100
    "Forks over Knives" was the biggest crock of shit I have ever witnessed in my entire life. A grain and plant based diet is a good way to fucking kill yourself. The human body isn't meant to process grain. Western societies already eat too much grain, that's why diseases like IBD are so prevalent. It's like this movie wants to exterminate our entire society.

    Second, meat is not unhealthy. Fuck everyone who thinks it is. The beef people in the west are used to eating IS unhealthy because it comes from cows who are fed corn. Cows are not meant to eat corn. The only reason they are given it is because of the unneccessary surplus of corn in the economy right now (why do you think we tried making the shit into fuel?) Because cows eat what they aren't meant to day after day, they get sick and their meat is of a lower quality. That's why people who eat this meat get sick. GOOD QUALITY BEEF from GRASS FED COWS is not only NOT bad, it's extremely GOOD for you.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:48 No.3595112
    >>3595100
    >grains are unhealthy
    >Japanese people have amongst the longest lifespans on Earth
    >their diet includes eating something akin to 500-1000g of grain daily, per person
    >durp grains kill people herp
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:52 No.3595116
    >>3595100
    >"Forks over Knives" was the biggest crock of shit I have ever witnessed in my entire life

    >never watched it
    >mad at how it shows how bad meat and dairy is
    >herp derp derp I so mad I need to rant now

    Sorry, kid. Your shit is played out. Actually do some research, then at best you could apologize. Sad child.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:53 No.3595117
    >>3595100
    LOL. Idiot.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:53 No.3595119
    >>3595112
    The amount of grain they eat is only one factor of many that would determine a life span.

    If people could live off grain, why are there people starving in places where they can only grow grain? Rice has very little nutritional value.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:56 No.3595122
    >>3595119
    *citation needed*
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)01:58 No.3595124
    daww, look at all the butthurt meatfags that will congregate here with no direction or real argument against the video. No, they would have to first watch it, and that is never going to happen anyway.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)09:02 No.3595442
    >>3595124
    Which really amounts to, why should I?
    MOST of these videos amount to poorly sourced vegan propaganda.

    And while I realise that there are definitively negative health effects from eating meat, so too are there positive effect.
    the same can be said about both vegan and vegetarian diets.

    Besides, my opinion is basically eat what you enjoy so long as you vary your diet, it'll usually end up being roughly healthy anyway.

    Come over to me for dinner as a vegan? I'll cook vegan foods for you, and enjoy it.
    wanna have some meat? same thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)09:02 No.3595444
    >>3595119
    >implying that the poor and starving people in those areas have the money necessary to buy/grow the grain
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)12:36 No.3595767
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    Top 10 regions by highest life expectancy (CIA World Factbook estimates 2011)

    1. Monaco
    2. Macau
    3. San Marino
    4. Andorra
    5. Japan
    6. Guernsey
    7. SIngapore
    8. Hong Kong
    9. Australia
    10. Italy

    Top 10 countries by meat consumption:
    > pic related

    Australia (#9) and Monaco (#1), two of the highest meat consumers in the world, are also two of the longest-living countries in the world. The longest-lived country on the entire planet is also the world's eighth-largest consumer of meat products.

    Life expectancy rankings of other states on the meat list:
    - Nauru: 167 (64.2 years)
    - Argentina: 59 (75.3 years)
    - Portugal: 49 (78.54 years)
    - New Zealand: 13 (80.2 years)
    - Austria: 16 (79.8 years)
    - Greece: 18 (79.5 years)
    - USA: 38 (78.2 years)
    - Ireland: 26 (80.19 years)

    There is no correlation between meat consumption and mortality rates. Suck it, vegans. Suck it, carnivores.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:28 No.3596395
    >>3595767
    Unrelated to the content of your information that graphic is balls
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:32 No.3596410
    >>3595112
    Yes, but they also eat mostly vegetables and fruit with fish daily. Chicken, pork, beef and other meats are monthly.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:35 No.3596413
    Are bean sprouts a meat:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13746682
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:35 No.3596414
    >>3596410
    >you have never been to japan

    seriously the typical diet for an adult japanese is 20% alcohol, 40% sodium, the rest is meat and rice
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:38 No.3596421
    >>3596413
    Of course beans are meat!

    > The Pythagoreans were well known in antiquity for their vegetarianism, which they practised for religious, ethical and ascetic reasons, in particular the idea of metempsychosis – the transmigration of souls into the bodies of other animals. "Pythagorean diet" was a common name for the abstention from eating meat and fish, until the coining of "vegetarian" in the nineteenth century.

    > The Pythagorean code further restricted the diet of its followers, prohibiting the consumption or even touching of any sort of bean. It is probable that this is due to their belief in the soul, and the fact that beans obviously showed the potential for life. Some, for example Cicero, say perhaps the flatulence beans cause, perhaps as protection from potential favism, perhaps because they resemble the genitalia, but most likely for magico-religious reasons, such as the belief that beans and human beings were created from the same material.

    BEANS ARE MURDER!
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:38 No.3596422
    >>3596414
    Also cigarettes and loli panties.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:42 No.3596429
    >nips eata bowl of rice with every meal, all they eat is grain!
    >implying americans dont eat bread with every meal
    >implying there isnt grain and sugar in everything we eat
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:42 No.3596430
    >>3596414
    And that meat is mostly fish. The average Japanese person consumes 154 pounds of fish anually, about half a pound a day. Fish being, of course, a meat.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:45 No.3596437
    >>3596429
    Those refined carbs are the thing killing us, stop eating them
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:49 No.3596444
    >>3596421
    quite right! lets all take the dietary lead from people who dont understand how digestion works
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:49 No.3596445
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    >im so glad im a superior vegan with superior health
    >hmm, which one should I have for dinner tonight...
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)16:59 No.3596460
    >>3595066
    >implying it is what the food is and not the portions
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:02 No.3596466
    >>3594902
    >I expect to die at some point.
    >I want to enjoy my food
    >We all have to die of something
    >etc

    I never understood these sorts of statements when its about cigarettes let alone eating healthy.

    It's like you have literally no clue how awesome you feel when you are eating right so you have some sort of mental despair about changing for the better.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:03 No.3596467
    >>3594916
    I use that phrase all the time and I'm an American. What are you on about? Are you taking a piss?
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:05 No.3596472
    >>3596466
    i think that statement makes more sense for food, because smoking takes off about a day and a half per cigerete, while i'm sure the amount of time for eating regular people portions of good tasting meat is only -maybe- a minute, if it decreases it at a rate anyfaster then being alive normally.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:07 No.3596477
    >>3596466
    Gotta love when smokers justify the habit by saying "everything causes cancer these days!".

    Shouldn't that be a good reason to distance yourself from the easily avoidable causes and try to limit the unavoidable ones as much as you can?

    Yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:08 No.3596480
    >>3596466
    all I really need to do is cite how the vast majority of olympic athletes are not vegetarian and you have no choice but to accept that a vegetarian diet is not healthier than a meat diet.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:13 No.3596492
    I'm on a similar diet as the one in the OP. The only reason I'm doing this is because while on this altered diet, I've never felt better. I have more energy, super high concentration, drive, and creativity than I ever have in my life while not on this sort of diet. This is my second time I've switched to it and this time I'm convinced to stay on it. I did a 6 month trial before, now I'm in for the long haul. This is what it entails,

    Whole foods only.
    Plants/fungi only (no dairy, honey, meat, butter).
    No processed foods at all (leavened bread, oils, enriched foods, fake cheese/meat, pasta).
    No added salt.
    No added sweeteners or artificial sweeteners (honey, sugar, NutraSweet.)
    Only liquid consumed is water.

    It's just fruits, vegetables, and fungi. Spices fit into those categories, fyi.

    I've been gardening for myself for a few years now. this year I'm increasing my garden far beyond anything I've ever done anything before and making a greenhouse. The only "bread" I eat is unleavened flat breads. Literally they are ground whole grains with water that is baked.
    >> Orange !GUISE46BgU 05/06/12(Sun)17:14 No.3596494
    >>3596466
    Statistically a vegetarian diet is not healthier than a meat-inclusive diet.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:16 No.3596501
    >>3596480
    That's just it. Not all are meat eaters. There are vegans/vegetarians in the Ironman Triathlon.

    Here,

    http://www.care2.com/causes/ironman-triathlete-says-veganism-is-diet-best-for-athletes.html

    >Brazier says all the athletes he knows eat a mostly plant-based diet, because it is the best diet for achieving top performance.

    >>3596494
    Incorrect. Watch the video in the OP pic. Research the data mentioned in it. Use google scholar.
    >> Orange !GUISE46BgU 05/06/12(Sun)17:21 No.3596505
    >>3596501
    I am certain that if I watch a propaganda video specifically designed to convince me that vegetarian is healthier than eating meat,

    then I will be bombarded with "evidence".

    Show me an FDA statement.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:31 No.3596514
    >>3596492
    Can you drink black coffee under such a scheme?



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