You've gone to a public restaurant, OP. Yes, it's unfortunate that the other clientele are like this but you've opened yourself up to that possibility.

>>2535228

assholes like you are why this country is hated by the world.

>>2535228
Go cooler restaurants and there won't be children. That's what you get for eating at Friday's or some shit like that.

You realize without having children, you wouldn't be here thus wouldn't be able to have delicious ribs and fries?

>>2535228
I agree and IM a parent heh. So when i do take the kids its during the day (yea you're not too cool when go during the day) when there are like 2 other people in the place. As was the story a couple days ago went to BW3 and there was like 3 people in the regular area (dunno how many in the bar area)

>>2535252
That fact doesn't change the annoyance of having to endure someones annoying little brats. Also, tripfagging sucks, seriously.

>>2535243
This. There are generally two types of restaurants regarding this:
A) Restaurants where you can tell your waiter to tell the table with kids to shut their kids up
B) Restaurants where you can kindly shut the hell up and tolerate it for 30 minutes or leave.

If you don't feel comfortable complaining to your waiter about another table being a nuisance, then you should expect it to be a problem at some point down the line. The qualities of the restaurants which discourage you from complaining are the same ones which encourage parents to bring their little nuisances out to dinner with them.

Even parents are entitled to eat out once in a while. If you don't want to put up with it, go to nicer restaurants.

>crying

>>2535254

It seems to me like you let a lot of little things bother you.

>children crying
>tripcodes

If you change your attitude towards those things and don't let them bother you so much, you'd probably be a lot happier.

I know /ck/ can do without your petty bitching.

>>2535252
I just disagreed with the OP but your argument is totally retarded and it needs to be disassociated from the people who also disagree with OP but are not as stupid as you.

Nobody, not even OP, is saying that you shouldn't have kids. OP is saying that parents shouldn't take their kids to restaurants. Which is stupid, because part of growing up involves learning how to behave in a restaurant, and whether you learn that at age 3 or age 18 it's going to be embarrassing for everyone else involved. So let the parents be responsible for the upbringing of their kids.

The problem is that OP goes to some casual rib and fries restaurant and gets all surprised when the cheap family style restaurant is overrun by families.

>>2535256
If you're legitimately bothered by someone using a trip, then you really need to go back to /b/.

>>2535276


>why do people that have ruined their lives with children
>ruined their lives with children

I'm sorry, you were saying?

>>2535298
>>2535252

glockpan confirmed for creepy babby-loving midwesterner

I agree OP

the sad thing is that these pathetic sacks of shit think they're better than people without kids and think they are entitled for some reason

>>2535298
>>2535307
saging baby

I'll never forget when I worked at this pizza joint and this women brought in her sick 4 year old in with her. She waited half an hour in there for her pizza after she ordered with her kid screaming and crying.

Fucking nightmare.

>>2535298
Oh. See for a moment there I thought you were replying to the general point the OP was making, and not obsessing over a passing insult he made in the course of making that overarching argument.

>>2535485
Weird that I actually know what that means...

>>2535341

I'd hardly call one question "obsessing." If anyone is blowing this out of proportion, it would be you for pointlessly commenting on it.

OP already replied to my question, therefore, your reply was null.

If you have never seen anyone post a comment about an OP's post that isn't about the general topic, then you must be new here.

Carry on.

Deal with it

>>2535485
>>2535486
Good
Both of you can do your service to the planet now by going off an killing yourselves

Fuck kids. If you don't discipline them early they will be doing this shit from ages 2 to 10. But hey, I can put up with a screaming attention whore for thirty minutes if it makes you regret having the little bastard for the rest of your life.

mfw

I have children. Ive trained them to cry on cue. I tell'em to cry when an asshole pisses me off. I also do it for the lulz.

>>2535584

I've upped my alcohol intake just for you.

>>2535602

Yeah I've heard of something like that. Although it's less of a "cue" and more of a "clip round the fucking ear".

Weird thing is; I hate kids and really detest the idea of ever fathering them - but I can easily tune kids out in public and I'm actually good with kids (from experience of playing with friends' kids).

>Go to local brewpub for beer and smut
>Despite sign saying "brewery and saloon" and having to walk past huge vats of alcohol to get in, asshole parents come in with babies
>Fucking crying, fucking crying everywhere
>Asshole parents complain about swearing. In a bar.

30something mother here. What exactly do you people expect out of us? Stay home out of sight and some how magically raise our children until you angry, self-entitled bitter loners have decided it's ok?

You know, in times past alcohol consumption was not considered "sinful" or defined as excluding children. You could take a few cues from the Europeans on this, methinks. Hubby and I always said, if you really want to yell swear words and generally make an idiot out of yourself, you can (and probably should) do it in the privacy of your own homes. Not impose your lifestyle on the rest of us.

>>2535651

You're a mom, you can be a good mom, or you can continue to feel self entitled, and somehow superior to those who are in fact your betters. Your crotch fruit should be well behaved or stay home. If you can't grasp that then you are a shitty parent.

Self entitled, me first parents, the reason America will fall.

You obviously don't have kids or you would know that their being "well behaved" has absolutely nothing to do with parenting. Kids have a temperments that they are born with. Parents can't just snap their fingers and make their kids act mannerly.

>>2535651
THIS. Perfectly put.
Also, any self-respecting parent knows to remove the crying child until they calm down so as to not disturb the other diners/patrons etc. You should ALWAYS take children out to nice restaurants, pubs (if applicable), events, etc. so they DO learn public manners. Which obviously many of the people posting in this thread weren't taken out as children, since their manners seem to be lacking.

it's actually illegal to bring children to a bar in most states.
Also, you having kids should not affect my freedom of speech at all, including swearing. Keep them at home if you are afraid they will learn a "bad word". only an idiot would take their kids to a pub and complain about swearing, and only a faggot would stop swearing because some alcoholic dad couldn't stay home with a six pack and watch his kids.

>>2535669

Agreed. Kids don't pop out of the womb knowing how to behave. They have to start somewhere, and the best training is experience.

Furthermore, it's the people who have kids that are keeping the species alive and bringing hope for the future. If everyone dodged the responsibility and fundamental human duty of reproducing and parenting children, then the world would cease to be. Those who decide not to have children, and just selfish children themselves, too lazy to be tasked with such an important endeavor. It would interfere with their gaming and television addictions. It would require actual sacrifice.

>>2535688
While in essence, what you said is fair, your lack of including basic manners and etiquette is appalling. You don't HAVE to act like anything other than a disgusting twat, but you SHOULD.

>>2535669

No.

If you are bringing a kid who still has the possibility of crying to a restaurant later than 6 pm, you fail as a parent. If you can't get someone to watch your kids for 3 hours, it means that you either A: can't afford to, or B: don't have the time to.

Both A and B mean that your ass shouldn't be at a fucking restaurant either way. If your kid starts to cry, you bring them outside and sit them in the car till they shut up. No one pays to eat somewhere to have it ruined by a crying child. Parents are oblivious to the noise, the other 99% of the establishment isn't.

There is no valid reason to bring young children to a restaurant for dinner. None. Kid's that are young enough to cry aren't old to learn fucking manners and socials cues from sitting in a booth at Applebee's screaming their asses off.

I was eating at a restaurant when a family with a baby and a pre-schooler was sat near us. The baby reeked of shitty diaper, and the parents HAD to make every fucking thing into a learning experience for the older one.
Fucking parents.

>>2535695

I don't know what the fuck you are talking about, but the world is becoming DRASTICALLY overpopulated. There is a reason that the highest tier of educated, and successful people in the world are also among the lowest tier in terms of reproducing.

There is simply no reason to have more than 2 or 3 kids in todays world, and even thats a stretch. The people reproducing the most arent "keeping the world alive bro", they are fucking too stupid and poor to use condoms and birth control.

Less children, more fucking discipline would do this planet some serious good.

oh here comes the circle jerk where all the self entitled parents think it's ok to bring their dirty shit head kids everywhere and we need to deal with it

protip: it you want to go out get a fucking babby sitter or stay the fuck home

when you decided to be a parent you basically gave up your rights to have fun and do a lot of the things you used to

This thread
tl;dr: Its dicks to have a crying children near you in a restaurant, but children need to learn public manners somehow! Go eat at a real restaurant, faggot.

>>2535699
The tavern or bar is a place where a certain amount of behaviour you find unacceptable will take place. It's specifically there for people to get drunk at, with secondary functions of getting laid and scoring cocaine.
This is somewhere you feel young children should be?You need a reality check, followed by a visit from a social worker. if i saw some parent drag their small kids into a bar, I'd immediately think poorly of them, and find THEIR behaviour that of a twat. It would make me wonder if you are an alcoholic or something, that you can't even stay out of the bar to take care of the little ones , but instead have to drag them with you. Smacks of a desperate clinging to youth, which is gone the minute you procreate.
And what kind of responsible parent wants their kids to even be around a bunch of drunks and sluts and dope dealers as they get more and more inebriated? I say this as someone who works as a bouncer at a bar, you know how many dumb mishaps happen due to alcohol? how many people hurt themselves or others from sheer drunken mishaps? And you want to have your kid around that?
grow up and learn what is an appropriate setting for children.

>>2535718

This. Having children doesn't make you a "responsible citizen of earth and mother nature", it makes you the same as every other person on the planet.

I'm lucky, as most of the restaurants I frequent, fine dining AND pubs, all have owners that will kick your ass out if your kid starts screaming.

>Even parents are entitled to eat out once in a while.

There are these magical things called baby sitters. I suggest you look into them.

People need to calm the fuck down. I know so many people who let crying children in airplanes, restaurants, public transport, etc. ruin their day. Or they see a fat person and bitch for 20 minutes about how disgusting it is, or there's some crazy hobo talking to himself on the bus.

Yeah, it's annoying. But you can either deal with it and enjoy yourself, be a little bitch and let it ruin your day, or just stay in your basement because you can't handle the crying children and other inhabitants of the earth.

>>2535727

If the kid is still at the point in their life where screaming in public is still an option, they are too young to be learning anything else.

It's like trying to teach your dog how to do a back flip when it still shits all over the house. If people can't understand this, they aren't ready to have a fucking kid.

This is why there are more, and more shit heads growing up. No one disciplines their fucking children anymore.

>The problem is that OP goes to some casual rib and fries restaurant and gets all surprised when the cheap family style restaurant is overrun by families.

Family resturants with families is fine. By all means, bring your well adjusted child and have a nice meal. Stop bringing your fucking toddler that doesnt yet understand how to act like a civilized human being OR even fucking eats ribs. Don't try to play it off like baby is going to be ordering some fries and a burger when he is still sucking on his mother's tits.

Also, big difference between "family" restaurants and restaurants clearly designed with children in mind.

>>2535737

Or, how about this? The cunts with the shitty children stay at home, and everyone fucking wins.

People like you are just as bad. "So what you paid $150 for two at a steakhouse, and some 4 year old eating chicken nuggets screamed for 2 hours and made the entire night unbearable?"

Next time you pay for dinner, a night out, whatever, I'm going to find you, and blow an air horn in your face for the entire duration. Every time you get mad I'll say "hey man, are you going to let this tiny little air horn make you upset?"

>methinks

Vapid whore detected. I'm suprised it took you til your 30s to have a child. And yes, you should stay at home and raise them instead of exposing them to a toxic environment at such an early age. While europeans do drink at earlier ages, they don't put it in the fucking bottle like you are implying.

Haven't you dingbats seen Children of Men?

Be glad there are babies crying and farting near you.

>>2535704
LOL, oh how wrong you are.
From the time children are old enough to walk, they are old enough to start learning manners and behavior modifications. There is no reason at all why parents shouldn't take their children out with them. Not only does it help teach public manners, but it also helps develop their palates.
Also,
>>eating at Applebee's
I feel sorry for you.

>Which obviously many of the people posting in this thread weren't taken out as children, since their manners seem to be lacking.

>Complaining about other people being rude is now rude?

Sure thing buddy.

Most restaraunt staff will ask the parenst to remove the child if they get enough complaints. Just complain to the waiter and make it clear your dining experience (and their tips) are suffering due to the brat's outburst.
The fancier the restaraunt, the quicker that kid will get removed, just watch.

>>2535729 dope dealers and sluts

What the heck kind of place do you live in? Do you even live in the real world? Is it some kind of biker bar like in a bad 80s movie? This is 2011, the neighborhood gastropub is a perfectly acceptable place for children, mine, or perhaps even yours should you be so lucky in the future.

Pic related, it's me holding our precious little angel.

>>2535745
Ribs and fries at fucking tgif is not in the same tier as a steakhouse. Not even close. There's a difference between going to a casual place where you KNOW there will be kids and intentionally going somewhere where you won't be bothered. Want to go to some cheap restaurant? Fly on a plane? Get on a bus? There will be annoying kids. Go to a bar, the opera, or a steakhouse if you don't want to see them. If they're there, then you have every right to complain.

Why you visit such Restaurants when you could visit another Restaurant which isnt Family friendly?
But i know that feeling, OP.

I agree to >>2535263

>>2535758

>implying I wasn't referring to people like YOU when I said applebees

And no, you couldn't be more wrong. I hope you don't have children, but given your obvious lack of intelligence and clear misunderstanding of proper social behavior, it's almost certain you have 5.

>>2535738

It's the white parents that are the worst. Asian, black, hispanic parents don't put up with that shit. White suburbanites coddle the shit out of little hunter, and little taylor, and oh isn't he cute and isn't his poop wonderful.

Asian and hispanic parents put their foot down. This white, suburban, anything goes, baby can do no wrong, parenting is what's destroying the country.

I suppose the angry, immature, anti-children ragewhores in this thread missed the point where the parents mentioned REMOVING the crying children. You people must go to some really shitty places, if all the other people around you are so trashy. Ooooo, you mad?

>>2535782
> little hunter, and little taylor, and oh isn't he cute and isn't his poop wonderful.

oh god I lolraged

ITT 20 something internet rageboys who think they're special and whenever they go out into public, public should be perfectly suited just for them and then come back to the internet to bitch and whine when it's not.

Guess what! Other people have lives. You are going to encounter people who have decided to have children in your journey through this world. You can get all pissed off because they exist and aren't going to hide in a basement just to appease you, but it's going to lead to a life of misery.

>>2535782

>black parents with well behaved kids

I hope this is a fucking joke. I agree with most asians, but black people without a doubt have the worst children.

The only good thing about being a successful white person, is the places I eat rarely have any blacks and hispanics. Except the busboys of course, but hey, a black man with a job is something I respect.

>>2535789

Self entitled, 20 something hippy with 2 black children confirmed.

It's okay to bring kids out. I understand how parents might want to (or need to, to save their sanity) forgo cooking for the family once in a while. I also understand how stressful it can be to have small children, and have to deal with them when their tempers flare.

That said, it is also incumbent upon the parents to be courteous. Ideally, try to avoid a busy-as-hell restaurant at prime time. Find a restaurant that isn't crowded, where you can ask to be seated away from other customers. Also, if your child is messy (as most children are) please, for the love of god, tip well, because cleaning up your rugrat's destruction is one of the most time-consuming and annoying things that waitstaff and bussers have to deal with. That table isn't getting reset until a vacuum cleaner is brought out of the closet and everything is wiped down.

Also, the variety and availability of delivery and carry-out in most places is incredible. Don't forget that you don't have to take your monsters into public in order to have a nice meal without slaving overa stove.

>>2535782
I was at Fuki Sushi, a fancy sushi place in Palo Alto, and when I walked in there was an Asian family with a little baby. I was very wary at first, but I'm not even kidding, that baby was perfect. It slept almost the whole time, and then when it woke up it just sat there nicely. Didn't need to be fed, didn't ask for attention. Just sat there nicely with its parents. It was amazing. Only an Asian baby, man, I swear, it had already been trained to stfu and be good.

>barbecue with fries

nope.jpg

not a proper barebcue side

>>2535777
Luckily for me, I've never eaten at an Applebee's in my life. I highly doubt you're so lucky. But, since you're so full of disgust for people with children, why don't you go ahead and do EVERYONE a favor and get yourself snipped? That's one less lowbrow fool in the gene pool we have to worry about.
Also, be careful, your butthurt is showing.

>>2535796

If only more parents thought like you, we'd have MUCH less bullshit to deal with.

>>2535782
Oh PLEASE. I agree about asian parents but you can't honestly sit there and tell me black parents do a better job keeping their kids in line than white parents. And you know what? Half the time the black parents are as bad or worse than their kids. They are the loudest race on earth.

>>2535799

My oh my, you are projecting your insecurities so strongly they are visible from space.

Call your therapist, it's going to be a LONG night for you two.

>>2535796

Bullshit. Part of what I pay for when I take myself, and my children, out to eat is for them to clean up after me. That's part of the deal. Why should I feel bad about my kids making a mess? I'm paying money for it, just like any other service. If it's a big deal then the restaurant should raise prices to a point where they can afford to offer the service that's IMPLIED BY BEING A RESTAURANT!

>>2535789
Pretty much this: The people who are at the restaurant with their kids don't give a flying fuck about you. They're dealing with their children and trying to get some food that they for once don't have to cook. If you can't handle people having children stay in your fucking apartment.

inb4 accusation of being a crotch breeder. I neither have not want children, but I'm at least grown up enough not to get my panties in a twist because someone else has. Do any of you fuckers even live in the real world?

>>2535768
>gastropub
pretentious douche detected, also you're very naive about the nature of bars and taverns .

>>2535833

Wow, talk about transference.

>>2535695

>Those who decide not to have children, and just selfish children themselves, too lazy to be tasked with such an important endeavor. It would interfere with their gaming and television addictions. It would require actual sacrifice.

Dear God it's turning into fucking LiveJournal over here. Why don't I start having a hissy fit and call you a dirty breeder, hmm?

Or, here's a better idea, why don't you quit making bullshit assumptions and get off your damn pedestal? Congratulations, you had a kid, your choice - no need to start slinging a load of shit at people whose choice is not to breed. It's not de facto immaturity or laziness; by that logic you too could be the immature one based upon your inability to rein in base biological urges to pass on your genes.

I dunno, I'm having a good ol' fashioned ramble now. It's good fun. Also I'm well aware I got trolled but whatever. I'm getting myself ready for watching Star Wars Episode II for the first time, best to get myself good and tender for it.

>>2535797
I was at ihop yesterday and there was this white family with a baby. I swear to god this baby did nothing, but sleep and look around.

>>2535841

Good point. My trollery was getting out of hand itt. I do feel better though. Nice weather, I think I'll go for a nice ride.

>>2535795
Sorry dude, no kids here and in my late 30's. I just think you people are acting like bratty teenagers.

>>2535809
>>resorting to base insults because you can't think of anything intelligent to say.

So, any other people who are against having kids do it because they feel society is doomed and they don't want to raise a kid in such a shithole world? Oh and it's compounded by a worry that you'll screw up a kid even more than yourself? Hm? Anyone? No?

Pic related, it's the music I listen to while I mull over deep metaphysical concepts like "WHY is babby formed?"

>>2535800

I'm not a parent, but I have friends who are. :)

>>2535821

Wow. You are an entitled cunt, aren't you? Waitstaff gets paid shit wages, their living is made off tips. Time they spend cleaning up your kid's mess is time they are not spending serving other customers. Hence, they are NOT getting paid to put up with your shit.

But judging by your response, if you behave that way towards underpaid, overworked people that are DELIVERING A SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR you're probably one of the people that gets cum and/or urine in your soup anyway. You get what you pay for.

I love how people think having children is some kind of special accomplishment, when statistics show any idiot can do it and does so.
It's not like human beings are in short supply or anything.
And especially for any 'single parents", getting knocked up and dumped is nothing to brag about.

>>2535768 hipster detected
>>2535790 neo nazi merica lovin redneck detetcetd

I hate kids.

That is all.

>at IHOP
>hear babies crying
>what the fuck?
>it's 3am

IT'S CRYING BECAUSE IT'S TIRED AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PARENT

inb4 "it is not an IT"

>>2535899
i wonder if Preggo gave birth yet.
She hasn't been on here, or she took off her trip.

>>2535910
Sadly she had a miscarriage. She'd pretty heavily sedated last i heard and is avoiding the normal chats and not posting here for a while.

>>2535951
A miscarriage? Good, one less noisy messy asshole to deal with.

>>2535900
Do you even know what a hipster is? I swear, hipster is like the new fag, it's just some random insult that's tossed off at anyone who seems annoying.

>>2535951
Did she still eat the placenta though?

>>2535951
How many months along was she? After 6 months it's a stillbirth, not a miscarriage.

>>2535974
Wasn't that a different guy? He made me lol, the way one day he was like "How do I eat placenta?" the next he was like "Whoops, miscarriage, time for pizza!"

I fucking failed and posted my story in the wrong thread, derp.

>on my lunch break
>head off to the usual cafe
>it's a very small cafe, just one isle with tables on one side and the counter/kitchen on the other
>which is good, not designed for families at all
>sit in my usual spot and order a delicious toasted sandwich with homemade minestrone on the side
>see some woman standing outside looking in
>has a pram
>she starts walking into the cafe
>ohhhhhhhhhhh shit oh shit oh shit no NO
>turns out it's a double pram, with a 4 year old and a babby in it
>the pram barely makes it down the isle
>she blocks off half the isle with her pram, making it hard to get to the toilets and for the waiters to get past
>glares at everyone who tries to walk past as if they're doing something wrong
>kids remain quiet for about 5 minutes
>suddenly, screaming children
>start eating faster so I can get out of there asap
>hear a bang just as I finish my soup

>kid knocked a painting off the wall
>manager comes out and goes off his head and asks the woman to control her children or leave right now
>she starts ranting about how the cafe is so bad and it's not designed for families and the foods terrible etc
>she leaves
>lunch ruined by shitty mother and children
>day proceeds to be a shitty day

Fuck you mothers with shitty screaming children. Take your kids to motherfucking McDonalds for lunch, not a cafe or restaurant.

>>2535985
Everything I can understand except
>lunch ruined by shitty mother and children
>day proceeds to be a shitty day
Why let random strangers ruin your day just by existing? It's your fault you let little things bother you.

OP still had a very solid post.

If your kid is 0-2 years old and crying? Take them out of the restaurant to spare the other diners, it's just rude if you don't.

If your kid is over 2 years old? THEN FUCKING DISCIPLINE THEM. It's insane to me that some parents let their kids, some of which are 10 years or older, scream and cry and do whatever the fuck they want.

You can't teach your kids to behave at home? You have to be a sit-down place for them to realize "Oh I shouldn't just scream randomly and throw food around?!?!"

>>2536005

Lunch was ruined because I ate it faster than usual (I want to enjoy my food!) because I wanted to get out of there. No one should have to put up with the noise these kids were making.. it was fucking ridiculous.

And by eating faster than usual, I accidentally over ate and felt sick for the rest of the day. But seriously, fuck that woman and her kids. I'm a tolerant person, but these children were the WORST behaved little shits I've ever seen.

I did feel a little sorry for the woman though because she kept asking them to be quiet, even resorting to bribing them with junk food, but nothing worked. Devil children indeed.

>>2536011

This exactly. The only place you can possibly teach your kids to behave is at a nice diner?

If you can't control your kids, then you shouldn't be allowed to eat around the public.

I agree parents should learn to control there kids. If junior is screaming his head off take him outside, to the bathroom, or just fucking leave. Its not some big accomplishment and no one wants to hear your spawn screeching for an hour or made worse by you screaming back at it.

>And especially for any 'single parents", getting knocked up and dumped is nothing to brag about.

Oh my god this. My dumb whore sister goes on non-stop about how great she is for being a single mother at the age of 18... while she is asking to borrow money from me or any other member of my family like the lose that she is.

LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY, I'M A BURDEN ON SOCIETY AND MY KID WILL BE TOO. AREN'T I A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN!?

>It's your fault you let little things bother you.

>I punch you in the face
>you get mad
>LOL ITS YOUR FAULT FOR GETTING MAD ABOUT A PUNCH IN THE FACE

You people are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.

>>2536083
I agree with every other post making the same point as you, but a punch in the face is not a little thing.

Easy solutions:
1) Eat in the lounge, no kids allowed in there.
2) Dave & Busters (No kids policy at the one I go to)
3) MicroBrewery restaurants (lots of these in Oregon)
4) Complain to the staff about the screaming kids, possibly get your meal comp'd.

>>2535651

Surely, madam, you won't mind if I come into your family restaurant, while you are there with your children, and get drunk, swear, do lewd things with drunk women, and generally make your experience less pleasant. What do you expect me to do, just not go out and have a good time?

>>2536092

Fine, then instead of a punch in the face, how about i just flick you in the ear ever couple seconds?

>>2536138
Physical contact is not the same thing as a couple kids crying across the room.
But as I said before, I agree with your point. I hate children and I don't want to see them, especially while trying to eat. It's always a delight to be eating soup and out of the corner of my eye see a child scream then blow chunks all over his dinner table. Lovely.

Trolls and umad everywhere. Not something you usually see in /ck/ as much as other boards, but that just makes it funnier.

The people who hate children in public were probably the most bratty, obnoxious, spoiled children there were and it's carrying over to their adulthood.

>>2536083
You can't see the difference between a punch in a face and a crying kid? You have issues.

See I don't have so much of a problem with a little kid crying. It's what they do, you accept that possibility when you go someplace where there might be kids.
However, I do have a problem with parents CHANGING THEIR FUCKING BABY ON THE SEATS/TABLES OF A RESTAURANT.
SDLFJDS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING

>>2535972

I agree that people toss out hipster too often, but that guy is a classic example of a hipster.

>>2536178

there is no difference. they are both things that can be prevented.

LOL, Butthurt Singletons 4ever alone ragethread.
Too bad your parents didn't use protection or abort you. Hurrdurr where do people come from?
This thread is hilarious. These are the same people who in 15 or 20 years will be running around desperately trying to mate with anyone who will take them so they will have an offspring. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....

lol this thread makes me think about my parents' story about my first restaurant experience.
>i was like 3
>went to HoJo's for early dinner
>they brought a book to amuse me
>i was good/quiet, ate my food, etc
>waitresses complimented on how well behaved i was

we didn't go out to eat very much when i was little, so this was a treat and i guess they told me beforehand that if i wasn't good we wouldn't go again.

only time kids bother me these days is when i'm at the grocery store/mall nd someone's kids are whining/crying about not getting their way...and then the parent caves in to their demands. SPANK THAT KID. i got spanked ONCE in a store when i was like 4-5 and never misbehaved outisde the house again....i was SO embarrassed. i turned out pretty normal, considering that i got spanked a bunch as a little kid.

also, BABYSITTERS, lrn2use em. if my parents wanted a nice dinner/evening out, they got me a fucking sitter. people coddle their kids way too damn much these days.

>>2535737
ditto

>Go to Chili's at 6 in the afternoon to celebrate my mom's birthday
>Only booth open is next to the bar
>While waiting for food, loud drunk idiot complains about his wife "sucking some white boy's dick"
>He eventually saunters over to our table and starts flirting with my mom in creepy ways
>Tell him to fuck off
>He won't
>Get up and get ready to punch him
>A cop gets to him before me and makes him lay off
>He leaves the bar and we spend the rest of our evening listening to two mopey faggots cry on each others' shoulders while slurring their speech


Why do people that have ruined their lives with alcohol need to show us how much of a loser they are in public? You've fucked up, don't shit on other peoples good times.

Just going to say. Babies on a plane. Worse than snakes

>>2536209
>only time kids bother me these days is when i'm at the grocery store/mall nd someone's kids are whining/crying about not getting their way...and then the parent caves in to their demands. SPANK THAT KID. i got spanked ONCE in a store when i was like 4-5 and never misbehaved outisde the house again....i was SO embarrassed. i turned out pretty normal, considering that i got spanked a bunch as a little kid.

YES! YES YES a thousand times YES! Society is so agains spanking nowadays that anyone who spanks their kids gets frowned at and watched for child abuse so much that people are afraid to discepline their child.

Humiliation works well too. The best parent I saw jsut looked at her little boy and said "do you want me to spank you in front of all these people?" and the kid shut up. Hate parents that are controlled by their kids!

Yeah the kids that cry are mostly the children of those annoying new strain of whites, you know the whole liberal-vegan-democrat-hipster-new age-green 30 year olds.

Also I don't mind when a kid starts crying in a restaurant, because kids are kids, but I do mind when the parents don't fucking do anything.

>>2536236
>work at a place that sells home-made stuff
>sell some fancy cheese macaroni (not that KD shit) to a woman for her girl.
>mfw woman comes back saying the girl won't eat the macaroni meal that cost ten fucking dollars so buys her something else.

jesus christ lrn2parent

>>2536245

Who cares, you got paid.

>>2536209

This.

I was at a grocery store one day and this stupid woman had a kid who was at least seven or eight and screaming for not getting it's way. She did NOTHING and then tried to bitch at me for giving her a bit of a look.

So I told her to go fuck herself and had a wonderful day thereafter.

>>2536233
Fuck me, I flew about a month ago and there was a screaming kid a few rows ahead of me, another one a few rows behind, and there was one kid directly behind me who didn't bitch that much but thought it would be fun to reach through the seats and touch me. None of the parents did shit. What a long ass flight that was.

All of my grandparents were farmers, and on the rare occasion that they went to a restaurant they sure as hell didn't bring their kids, the neighbors, or at least the next closest farm, looked after them for the evening. My parents never took me out until I was older and when I have kids they aren't going out to dinner until they can sit all the way through it without crying. Restaurants are meant for people that can actually enjoy the food, and that don't just order chicken fingers and pop.

>>2536271

The last four restaurants I've been to have had a baby/small child at every other table. There was always loud screaming and crying. I blame shitty parents not knowing how to discipline their children properly. It's another generation of baby boomers.

>Driving down to Florida with family like we do every year
>Stop at a restaurant ~9pm to have dinner
>It's Ruby Tuesdays or something fuck if I remember
>Sitting down, drawing on the back of paper placemats with my cousin
>SUDDENLY BABY SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER
>Haven't even gotten our appetizers yet
>Parents fucking do nothing for an hour, kid still screaming as they leave

I've never really been tolerant of babies crying/screaming because the noise in general makes me cringe, but when it's nonstop I really wish somebody would say something.

Also, "Mommy Entitlement" that make women believe that just because they have a baby it's okay to change their nasty-ass diapers on restaurant tables/bus seats/train seats/etc.

>>2536271
I drew this for you, I hope it solves your problem.

Also I don't really know if you are black, have cornrows/afro, or even have a taste for watermelon, but I like to imagine that big huge black gangsters from Compton and Harlem browse /ck/.

>>2535228
>Why do people that have ruined their lives with children need to show us how much of a loser they are in public? You've fucked up, don't shit on other peoples good times.


>Public restaurant
>serves ribs
>complain about babies

OP confirmed for the biggest faggot on the planet.

>>2536320
I lol'd so fucking hard

>>2535256
>That fact doesn't change the annoyance of having to endure someones annoying little brats. Also, tripfagging sucks, seriously.

>PUBLIC RESTAURANT

What fucking part of that don't you understand?

I hope when you have kids and you go out with them so asshole punches you in the dick and calls your children "little bastards" and then kicks your son or daughter in the mouth.

>>2535734
There's a magical thing called not being a inept social retard and learning how do deal with things you don't like in public, like babies.

You might as well get angry over having black people in a restaurant sitting next to you.

>>2536190

So, having kids is hip now?

>everyone in this thread is a fucking hypocrite because they were taken to restaurants as children and acted like children do and get mad at children for acting like children

You are all faggots.

>>2536383
>implying if I acted like a little shit at a restaurant my parents wouldn't kick my ass
I quickly learned to not be a little shit

>>2536378
No, he just looks and acts like a hipster. Kill yourself.

>>2536383

Some of us had parents who actually engaged in PARENTING. Fancy that.

>>2536383
bull shit. I got dragged to the bathroom and spanked
I shut up, sat down, and ate my food

>>2536320
That's going on the fridge.
ALSO

Op, what kind of ribs did you have? What are your favorite kinds or ribs /ck/?

Rib thread.

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>>2536383
>mfw when I have a very painful memory of being spanked right there in the booth.

>>2536428
>mfw you don't understand what "mfw" means

>>2536400

You're just mad because I disproved your misguided ideas about parenthood, and gastropubs.

I don't mind kids at the restaurants I go to. Why? Because they're cheap as fuck and meant for families as well.

And kids are kids. It doesn't matter how much you smack them in the ass, as long as it's not some really abusive shit, the kid's probably going to act up at least one more time in public.

And even if a parent teaches a kid how to act at home, you still need to learn it how to act in public. Kids get quite exhilarated when they're in a new environmental.

>>2536239
agree so long as parents control the kid when it starts to cry I don't mind.

not food related but on the lines of people changing the nasty diapers, work in clothing retail, some ghetto mom comes up to me diaper in hand asking if she can use a fitting room to change a diaper. I gave her an are you serious look and pointed her to the bathrooms with a changing table. wtf people shit belongs in the bathroom not on tables and chairs

>>2536441
Nobody disproved any ideas about anything. I still hate children and refuse to litter this world with my offspring. I'd probably beat that little piece of shit any chance I could for destroying my body anyway.
So, nothing has been disproved.

I have to say, if someone has a kid who's screaming for an hour or two strait, it says something about the quality of service at that restaurant.

It says the parent is lacking something to calm the kid down (kid is hungry, upset about something, wet their pants, etc) and whoever is waiting that table isn't at least walking up to that table and asking, nicely, if they can help.

>>2536444
It's not the pain that stops the kid from misbehaving. It's the fear. When I was a kid, my mother could smack me in the face and I wouldn't give a shit. But one look from my father made me shut up. Fear stops children from being assholes.

>>2536458

yea, dem fucking waiters, all their fault

I don't get bothered by crying babies. Some of you are just bitter fucks. Most of the time anyway the family deals with it. Can't you all just stop being dicks for once?

>>2536458
>implying that servers never go up to the family and ask them politely to shut the fuck up

What the fuck is up with that kid, is he teleporting out of the room or what?

I only got bothered by children once.

Parents were letting their kids ROLLER SKATE around the restaurant dining floor. And nobody was saying shit. Even when one of the kids almost skated into a waitress.

OP confirmed for an asshole.

Look, if you hate kids so much why don't you just stay in your moma's basement until you die?

I agree with OP
I fucking hate breeders, keep your fucking crying larvae the fuck out public places. Children should be eating home cooked food anyway.
Well behaved children are always a pleasure, but crappy parenting in America means we dont see that any more so keep the FUCK HOME

Fuck breeders, your fucking worthless kids clearly don't want to eat olives and houmous so why the fuck did you think to bring them into a Turkish cafe and try and feed it them. We're trying to have a nice quiet lunch here.

So fucking pathetic watching them treat their kids like acquaintances instead of children. Just take them to fucking McDonalds or something, thats where they want to be.

Another time, in a good quality Pizza restaurant. Family comes in with a 2/3 year old girl, they order her a portion of pasta to herself and it's fucking huge. Mother and father eating pizzas and the mum eats 95% of the kids pasta. Kid doesn't even want to touch it. Fucking yuppies, take the little cunt to pizza hut where it belongs and stop pretending you haven't ruined your lives.

>>2536378
it's ironic,
so yes.

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your moms should have swallowed y'all... since that was a fail, do the population a favor and get castrated... the world will be a better place without your asinine genes being passed to the next generation.

Since you failed to learn how to be tolerant as children, and it's turned you into be intolerant, ignorant, short-tempered adult faggots... I can only assume that you were either bullied as children, or mommy/daddy/aunt becky/uncle john all touched your naughty places when you were little and thus you've grown up to be angry at what you once were... a helpless child.

>>2536908
I don't care what you say, changing your kids on the table is unacceptable.
THAT'S RIGHT I FOLLOWED YOUR LINKS FAGGOT
>your moms should have swallowed y'all.
Pic related. The fuck is wrong with you?

>>2536908
you hella mad

This thread is a fucking laugh riot. I would love to watch one of you bottom feeders attempt to nerd rage at the parents of a screaming kid at a restaurant. Most of you fuckers are so socially inept I doubt you could even make eye contact with them, let alone actually say anything above a mumble.

Anyways, please carry on.

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butthurt breeder, get the fuck back in the kitchen
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>>2536922

lolz

you care or you wouldn't follow links

sad fag

>>2536956

where's my dinner bitch?

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Nice dubs
you must not live in america !
we give breeders shit all the time.
I would not do well in britian where everyone is so polite but i do have great respect for you guys.

>>2536959
So you're really arguing that changing a baby at the table of a restaurant is an okay thing to do? Really?

>>2536966

it's call lysol... buy some... then gtfoi

anyone else think a placenta sort of looks like a big ol' cake?

>>2536968
>implying the staff will use lysol
>implying the next person who comes along will know there's babyshit everywhere

Also,
>gtfoi
Get the fuck out... Ignacius? My name isn't Ignacius.

>>2536968
>>2536968
sorry changing baby in public while I am eating will be met with rage
every
cackadoodie
time

>>2536977

> Implying I give a fuck if you eat baby shit or not?

If you're afraid of shit, than you might as well kill yourself because it's bound to happen.

>>2536988

lolz

you lie so well

>>2535228.
Selfish cunt much, OP? The children aren't the issue, its the parents, fuck off.

Bringing children to a restaurant at an age where they don't know to behave and keep their voices down is bad parenting. If you can't find a babysitter, stay in.

>>2537045

>If you can't find a babysitter, stay in.

which is the point OP is trying to make. I dont find it selfish at all to detest shitty kids at restaurants, and their parents. I rage at the whole table.

>>2537045
This thread is full of annoying teenagers complaining about how annoying those younger then them are.

Once again, please all of you stay your moma's basement until you die. The world at large doesn't need you.

when i was working at this paalce called christophers in cambridge, ma, a lady actualy changed her baby's diaper on the counter near the fireplace during the dinner rush.
srsly, WTF.

When asked to go in the restroom she countered with something along the lines of "it's just a baby, it doesn't care where it's being changed, and i'll clean up after".

These people don't know basic etiquette. Or they assume everyone thinks their baby is just as adorable as they do.

>>2537063

reread the thread, there are a lot of people in their 20s and 30s who are tired of having to bend over backwards to accommodate people who fucked up their lives and want to smear their own shit around so everyone else can smell it.

guess what. quiet as a kid, misbehaved once and was told 'that is not acceptable behavior'.. and shut the fuck up and behaved. And I feel the same as op. Stupid entitled cunts with their gd crotchfruit that they can't - oh wait - won't control or teach good behavior too because they're just so damn special children. And this thread is full of lulz. thanks folks.

>>2537069

It's not whether it's cute or not, IT'S FUCKING UNSANITARY.

How fucking difficult is the concept that you keep food and shit away from each other? How do they let you keep your child and you don't know that?

Even though I have a baby I completely understand the OP. Not only I get mad as fuck when babies start crying at fucking restaurants, but also when mine cries (which is very seldomly since she's well behaved, thank GOD), either I take her out or my husband does. Not only in restaurants though, but also in any other public establishment. I dont like to disturb other people's lives with a baby crying.
Everybody has to comprehend that when a baby is littl and it cries, its generally only cause they need something, food or sleep or change of diapers. They dont cry for no reason. Toddlers on the other hand are little devils than cry cause they want to hold the fucking glass full of water by themselves or some shit. I'll make sure mine doesnt act like this.

I love how some restaurants have a no child policy. Those are a blessing.

>go to a bar with friends
>it's around 8pm, not too late
>at least 6 families with toddlers at a fucking bar
>get annoyed, retreat to patio
>enjoy the rest of my evening

Seriously though, you know smoking and non-smoking? Can we have kids and non-kids sections? thanks.

we went to this fireworks on the lakefron't festival piece of crap thing once with some friends, we got our spots on these cement rocks before anyone else showed up, then like a half hour before the fireworks started at 9:30 or 10pm or whatever, all these welfare moms start crowding us with their ugly families and strollers saying they should get out spots because they had kids, i was sitting like right on a rock with my feet literally touching the water and lady actually nudged me with foot, saying something like "c'mon you guys move, its for the kids" i wanted to throw her in the lake. as we left we randomly tossed lit lady fingers into the crowd. i think that bitch was just fat and out of shape and wanted to sit down herself, and was using her ugly special ed bound kids as an excuse.

What I learned: When I have a child, which will indeed happen some day, I need to be aware of the public and not be a pretentious asshole who thinks that their child is the second coming of Christ.

That being said, I never really notice annoying or crying kids in restaurants anyway, probably because I worked at a daycare for most of my teenage life and have learned to tune it out. But shit, bring that little fucker on a plane and I will rage. I don't care if you don't like it when your ears pop. Fuck off. Chew on a pacifier or a dick or some shit.

>>2537123
They have this in Saudi Arabia. Sort of.

Amazing how all these people forget they were children once.

You can't tell me you didn't screech and fuck around in public before it was ingrained in you that bad behavior=puishment.

>>2537152

They said the Arabs preserved the knowledge of the ancients when the West was in the dark ages.

I guess this still holds true in some respects.

>>2537154

Nope, I was the weirdly quiet little babby, I just watched and made no sounds. UMAD?

I am opening a restaurant called "Adults Only"

Anyone under 18 will not be allowed to enter, not because of nudity, but simply because it will be a 5 star silver service restaurant where you can be guaranteed there will not be any children whining, crying, or smearing shit all over the place.

"But I have kids can I come to your restaurant?" No, get a fucking baby sitter.
"That would never work" It works all over europe, some of the finest restaurants don't allow children many of those a Michelin Star.

Fucking children at restaurants, seriously you are a bad parent and an ignorant inconsiderate fuck if you take children to a restaurant.

Here's the truth people, when kids arethrowing tantrums it's really hard for a parent to know how much the child is bothering anyone else...

After 6 months of crying, you sort of develop immunity from frantic screams, it's sort of a defense mechanism your brain created to prevent you going insane.
Our tolerance for noise is increased, sort of like people who eat hot sauce all of the time will barely notice the heat that'll make some people cry.I apologize on behalf of all the parents, sometimes we don't realize how annoying our children are.

To those who don't accept the apology, fuck you and if you so far as make a peep complaining about my child and I get an earful of your bullshit, I will personally beat the shit out of you.

Oh yes I will.

when i was a kid, i only remember getting to to shitty little childrens museums and mcdonalds. those places i'd say are perfectly acceptable to bring a crying baby. but restaurant/bar after like 7pm, probably not. and only losers go to the keg and jack assters to have beers.

>>2537160
>ignorant inconsiderate fuck
Didn't know you could be so introspective, anon.

>>2537154

I screeched a couple times in public. I got my shit smacked in, no more screeching. The lesson? Hit your kids when they cross the line.

>>2537174

no need to apologize, just shut your kid up

>Us bad parents have an excuse for our bad parenting!
>We're sorry. We're really sorry.
>If you don't like my bad parenting, I'll hurt you for pointing it out!

GTFO and die.

>>2537160
You're a fucking idiot. Screaming kids is a problem of cheap and mid-tier restaurants. Families who are generally interested in fine dining rear their kids properly. That restaurant would fall flat on its ass for every wedding party, prom party, and family with well-behaved kids.

Name a single one of those 'Michelin star restaurants' who don't allow any minors. Go ahead.

>>2537187
>That restaurant would fall flat on its ass for every wedding party, prom party, and family with well-behaved kids.

Implying I want those clients ... dumbass.

Best example is El Bulli, well known for not allowing children.

http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=13107715

UMAD PARENTFAGS?

But no, really. If you can't control your children, you shouldn't be going out in public.
I don't see how it's so difficult to control your kids either. I was at a 4-star restaurant with my girlfriend and this couple came in with a 6-year-old. I braced for some tantrums, but the kid acted like a total adult. It was surreal. He was polite, he was quiet, he didn't run around or mess with things. He asked a lot of questions about how the restaurant worked and what to order and what this word meant, but his dad just explained everything. The parents got shittons of compliments for their good parenting.

But the problem is, they shouldn't have gotten compliments. It shouldn't be that out of place for a well-behaved kid that when one does show up, it's a surprise. I wish I had talked to those parents and found out what they did that made the kid so civil so that I could do that for my future kids.

>>2537204
"Ferran Adrià has announced he will be closing El Bulli in 2012, due to the massive monetary loss it was incurring. "

Thumbs up, faggot.

why give a shit?

>>2537211
lol implying because they didn't let kids in it went broke. You obviously have no clue, which is why you should stick to Burger King.

>>2537210
That is the sound of Anon whining.

>>2537186
Really, southpark?

Oh wow

southpark

>>2537221
Maybe not, but face facts: About 0.01% of restaurants have the luxury of turning away guests. The only example you could come up with was probably in the top 10 of restaurants on earth.
If you ran a restaurant, you would not be able to afford to pick and choose your customers. Having a policy of turning away crying kids is fine, but flat-out refusing any minors is bad business and you WILL lose money over it.

this whole thread is tl;dr

Single guy, 25, here, i get annoyed by crying kids as much as the next person.

however, they have a right to have a meal with their family as much as your butthurt self does.

if you don't want to deal with it, then order it take out and go home and eat the ribs with the wife then have a romantic evening, etc etc.

Or go to a "nice" restaurant, providing your bitchass can afford it, I know I can.

>>2537245
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>>2537236
Again, a rule of thumb for any restaurant is exclusivity (even perceived) which is why El Bulli was such a success (even though the cost of meals barely covered the cost of the ingredients that went into them, hence going broke).

There is a restaurant near me that is inside a Casino, the casino floor itself isn't popular, but even on a Monday/Tuesday night there is a waiting line because they serve excellent meals and being inside a casino, children aren't allowed. A regular compliment of the restaurant is the atmosphere.

Please, don't pretend to suggest that the admission of children will determine the success or failure of a restaurant, including teenagers.

>>2537236

Um, how do you think bar & grill joints stay open, then? No minors are allowed in, and yet, they remain.

>>2537245

Yeah, no.

There is no reason why a person should have to spend $20 or more per meal just to be able to eat without some little shithead ruining the experience for everyone else.

You're an asshole if you expect relatively quiet dining in a Burger King, but you're fucking normal if you expect relatively quiet dining in a goddamn steakhouse.

>>2537267
Where do you live that children aren't allowed in bar/grill restaurants?

>>2537271
I wouldn't expect quiet dining in a BK or a steakhouse.

I WOULD expect quiet dining in a restaurant where the waiter lays the napkin on your lap though.

>Went to an airport and sat on plane
>Assholes come in with babies
>Fucking crying, fucking crying everywhere

>>2537277

To be fair, it's not like the parent can take the kid outside.

You're in a fucking airplane.

>>2537283
That's true, but I've seen assholes put in their iPod earphones and forget about their screaming kid. That's just fucking insane.

a lot of other families i met as a kid had this napoleonic complex about how their house was run, and as a guest in their house, you were expected to follow all these silly rules that your parents never put on you. a lot people take that mind set out into public and don't realize its the real world and "no cursing" and "no spitting on the ground" etc... doesn't apply even if they are used to enforecing that rule on their kids inside their own home. same goes with ignoring bad behavior when you're fed up and don't want to make a scene in public etc... when your whole social life revolves around you, your spouse, and your kids, you forget what the outside world is really like and can come across as a huge asshole to other people who don't watch family channel and 7th heaven all day. know when your own shit stinks, thats all i'm saying.

>>2537421

Nonsense. There are some basic rules that are expected to be followed in society, that's why you can be fired from your job or kicked out of a restaurant for failing to observe them. The best establishments are those which enforce these rules (or better yet, where nobody needs to enforce them).

yes, rules like "don't rape people" "turn cell phones off in a movie theater" "don't smoke in the non smoking area" everything else is fair game, if i wanna pick my own nose, i'll do it in front of you, i don't care, and you can't stop me. also, personally, i've adapted to avoid most situations that bother me, like not walking around when kids are going to/getting out of school, eating in fast food places alone, getting seated concert tickets alone, going to school, etc... it must be my face. i've probably killed this thread because you're all picky about how replies are done. damn internet cliques. back to lurking.

>>2535729
i hear you on this one. i recently saw a young mother run into a bar for a sixer while leaving her less than todler in a running car. remember keys in old toyota = doors open. I waited outside for more than 5 minutes when the mother comes out she then bitches at me for creeping out her baby through the window.

OP is an insufferable bastard.
Of course, he has a point; no one wants to be around shrieking simians while attempting to eat. no matter where this occurs nor what the quality of the meal is, but OP's thread leads me to believe that it's a troll.
Parents need to learn and understand, however, that when you have a child, your personal lives are just about over; the child is the number one priority, taking up as much of your time as is available with various activities up to and including discipline.
Sad-to-say, but this is the area where most parents generally fail; they either discipline too leniently, too harshly, not at all or have the disciplinary measure not match the infraction.
A baby is too young, generally, to discipline, so the best course of action for a parent to take with an unruly baby is a time out.
If the baby cannot be placated (or the parent can't figure out what's wrong), the parent should remove his-or-herself from public view/earshot with the child and allow it to cry itself tired. Wear headphones, put them on loudly, and catch up on the current best sellers. A parked car is the perfect place to do it.
Inconvenient, I know, but having a child is inconvenient and the rest of society needn't be simultaneously inconvenienced for one's procreational choices.
Once the child has reached a talking/comprehension age, it should be explained that such behaviour is uncalled for and frowned upon and future infractions will be met with appropriate punishment; it's up to the parent if they want to use positive reinforcement for good behaviour then stop providing it when bad behaviour is present (as the punishment) or to actually provide a more classic punishment such as grounding. Corporeal punishment is generally frowned upon by society today.

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>>2537453
And rules like "don't disturb other people's quiet enjoyment of dinner, movies, and other activities." If your kids can't be kept quiet for an hour while dining in public, either teach them to behave or don't go out at all.

I'm told that when I was a child I was taken on many long car rides because my mom had a 40 minute commute. She couldn't do anything when I started crying in the backseat, so I quickly learned that it wouldn't achieve anything. :P

>mfw my parents and grandparents hit me when I acted up in public and my grandmother gave me etiquette lessons when I was four
>mfw I could care less about crying children in almost any social situation because I know that if they are older then two or three their parents are shit at administering discipline effectively
>mfw this has devolved into trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls with a few disgusting pictures thrown in for good measure

>friends and myself smoking outside a coffee shop
>soccer mom drags her kids in a stroller next to our table, even though there are several other table
>she gives us dirty looks, then gets up and pretty much tells us to stop smoking because of her kids
>I say no
>she goes in and tells the person the manager we are harassing her
>we know the manager and we tell him what is really up
>she throws a hissy fit and leaves

if she had asked nicely, we would have stopped for the duration she was there or moved to another table(yes i know smoking is bad and its been 4 months since my last cigarette, fuck yeah cold turkey)

Parents, get your little shits well behaved or start getting your food ordered to go.

>blast techno

>>2538250
you deserve to go to jail for attempt of murder, you piece of shit.

>>2538250
>friends and myself smoking outside a coffee shop
>soccer mom drags her kids in a stroller next to our table
>she gives us dirty looks
>blah blah blah
>Parents, get your little shits well behaved or start getting your food ordered to go.
>has nothing to do with kids

Angsty, mad-at-the-world 20 year old detected.

>>2538266
this.

If someone complained to me about something trivial, I'd acquiesce. You're not the big man for standing up to a soccer mom, no matter how satisfying it might feel for you to finally stand up to a maternal figure.

>>2538266
>told us to stop because it was bothering her kids
im sorry you cant do awesome things like have a social life because of your teat suckers

30 year old fail parent detected
>>2538273
>stand up to maternal figure
haha no. some bitch isnt going to tell me what to do because she thinks she has to control everything around her for her children. we were there first and she could have chosen a different table

you can continue to be the beta male. enjoy being walked all over, faggot.

>>2538294
>haha no. some bitch isnt going to tell me what to do because she thinks she has to control everything around her for her children. we were there first
and you continue to boast about standing up to a maternal figure

men's rights douchebag

>>2538250

Fuck her for putting her kids next to you, she could clearly see that you were smoking, and she didn't have the right to demand that you stop because she was too lazy to move farther away from the smoking.

> fuck all you twats who keep calling this poster an asshole, or saying he deserves to die for telling an idiot to have a lick of common sense.

>>2538294
>beta
>4chon.org/r9k/

enjoy, fag

>>2538294
>says I'm wrong about you just caring about standing up to a maternal figure
>obsesses about how she probably thinks she runs the world around her kids
I've genuinely never seen anyone so shortsightedly play into my argument before. You're obviously obsessed with standing up to mommy.

Also there were so many ways that you could have been the bigger man in that interaction. You could've asked her to find another table and pointed out any of the apparently numerous free tables further away. You could've politely but curtly told her that you were there first and that you're allowed to smoke outside (I'm assuming you don't live in a place where smoking right outside the building is illegal). You could've simply put out the cigarette and *not smoked* for a whole 40 minutes.

Those are things that adults do. Antagonizing a soccer mom, even if "she deserved it", is something that teenagers do.

>>2538319
You seem to think that being "alpha" means being the aggressor at every conceivable opportunity.

Am I right in that conclusion, or is your world view more nuanced than that?

>>2538302

Feministfag here. That guy was in his rights to stand up to her IMO. Good mothers are worthy of respect, soccer moms who think their kids shit roses and diamonds, are NOT.

And yes, please keep your fucking children out of restaurants if you know they are going to scream or the environment is not child-friendly (like a pub) or they are too young to truly appreciate the experience.

It's no fun for the kids, either. They're crying because THEY DON'T WANT TO FUCKING BE THERE. Ever hear of babysitters?

I agree with OP. I don't like children and I especially don't like YOUR children. One of these days, I'll pick one of them up by their feet and beat you to fucking death with it.
Then I'll finish my meal in peace while waiting for my arrest.

>. I can only assume that you were either bullied as children, or mommy/daddy/aunt becky/uncle john all touched your naughty places when you were little and thus you've grown up to be angry at what you once were

Oh yes. Because we are rightfully upset with you failing to be a parent and managing your children which ruins everyone's time at a restaurant, that means we were all molested as children.

Logic, did you learn it in school or did you drop out to have kids before that section was offered?

>>2538343

>They're crying because THEY DON'T WANT TO FUCKING BE THERE

Are you retarded? You do realize kids cry for other reasons right? You know, lack of sleep, hungry, bored? Any of these ring a bell?

>>2538355

Daddy didn't love you enough did he?

>If someone complained to me about something trivial, I'd acquiesce. You're not the big man for standing up to a soccer mom, no matter how satisfying it might feel for you to finally stand up to a maternal figure.

I love this catch 22 that the liberal left has programed into our collective psyche. So of course, bending over backwards like a bitch to please some selfish 30 something cow that you have never met before this very day is what a REAL man would do, right?

Give me a break.

>Daddy didn't love you enough did he?

I thought your argument was that daddy loved me too much in an inappropriate way. Stop projecting your own fucked up history on an anonymous message board just because nobody agrees with your deluded view of the world. We really don't care that you were molested as a child.

>>2538364
Bingo.
Time to start fighting fire with fire. You complain, I complain louder.
Fuck you and get the fuck out of my face.

I'm going to borrow my nephew one of these days and instruct him to act insane at a restaurant just to piss you mouth breathers off.

ITT: nerd raaaaaaaageeee

>>2538366

I want ham, and swiss on wheat. Now get too it.

>>2538369

I also want to do that, except I want it to be my own children. They will be the most behaved and I will give them trigger words for them to start acting like batshit crazy, just to piss people off.

>>2538374

>Taught daughter that kissing was called "giving herpes"
>daughter tried to give me "herpes" in public
>Found out that three people in social group had real herpes
>Priceless

>>2538320
>Antagonizing a soccer mom, even if "she deserved it", is something that teenagers do.

Given that most of the dipshits gracing us with their angry little tirades are likely 17-21 years old and are socially retarded from spending countless hours in front of a computer, you're probably not too far off.

>>2538320
you are not a smoker,are you?
and you probably never dealt with people like that soccer mom,right?

PROTIP - no matter what you say or how you act the non-smoker WONT FUCKING listen and will continue to bitch endlessly.


The only thing you can do is just to tell them to go fuck themselves
Also,this thread is filled with retards and I'm starting to feel that american society is just as bad as I imagined it to be

I think the only time I ever got mad about children being in a restaurant was the time a little boy decided to throw things at me repeatedly and his parents wouldn't stop him because "boys will be boys". Same kid also kicked me in the leg twice after his parents let him run around the restaurant. When I told them to discipline their kid, I got the same "boys will be boys" response and was told that boys can't/shouldn't be disciplined. I loved watching the management of the restaurant chew the parents out for their kid's behavior.

Beyond that, I don't care about kids in restaurants. Kids cry and fidget and make messes. As long as they aren't attacking me, they can be as annoying as they want.

ITT: I'm butthurt because expect me to keep my kids from screaming nonstop in public. It's okay to be obnoxious because it's public!

>>2538388
I'm not a smoker, and I'm an American. But if I sit in a place where people are allowed to smoke, I expect to experience that when I'm there. If it bothers me, I leave. There are plenty of places where people can't smoke, so I've basically opted into that experience by going into a smoking area.

But that's not the point. It's not an issue of what I WOULD do if I were in the soccer mom's shoes. It's a matter of what you DID do when confronted with a petty dispute. Rather than dissolve the situation with the kind of emotional maturity and higher ground that an adult generally has when dealing with a hyper-sensitive soccer mom, you aggravated the situation and then relied on the manager of the restaurant to back you up.

Like I said, you could've been the bigger man. It would've taken you all of 10 seconds to point out another table and suggest that she sit there instead, or politely told her that you're allowed to smoke at the table and that she's not obligated to sit next to you.

It would've taken you less time to simply do the right thing than it has probably taken you to defend against the criticism you now take for doing the wrong thing.

ITT: I have absolutely no hopes of ever procreating so I'm going to angrily lash out at those that have and claim that it's my "choice". (can't get your own hand pregnant, right?)

>>2538415
You do know that this kid that claims he confronted some soccer mom is probably lying, right? I'm guessing he mumbled something under his breath and went away himself.

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>>2538415
first of all,im not that kid with the soccer mom story

second of all - you missed the point - people who bitch at smokers for smoking in the smoker's area are gigantic retards in the first place and WONT listen to any kind of argument you try to make.
same thing with people who sit next to smokers when there are other options avaliable.

you may try to be the 'bigger' man,you may try reasoning that the whore should have chosen a different table - wont make any difference.

the bitch will NOT shut up.

your argument would be valid if that kid's story went like "I was asked NICELY to put out my cigarette but I told her to go fuck herself"

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bumping for general faggotry and people that WILL NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>2538420
Almost definitely. I mean honestly the whole notion that management would tell a regular customer to get lost (and side with the friend) is just unbelievably unprofessional. It's actually unbelievable.

I can live with my friends thinking I'm a douche at the restaurant because we're still friends and business is business. I can't live with strangers thinking I'm a douche and writing that shit up on yelp or something. And soccer moms just love bitching about anything online.

I work as a server in a restaurant. Frankly, I'm not too bothered by the crying.

What really gets to me is when a mom and dad come in with five kids, and they utterly DESTROY the table they're sitting it. You could drop a grenade on the table and it would have turned out to be easier to clean.

>>2538429
You (and "he") say that now in retrospect, never having demonstrated that you've tried, but if you wanted to be the terse conflict ender, you could have still gone with the polite response and then, after she continued to push you, shut her down.

There would be nothing wrong with what you("he") did if it had gone like this:
>Stop smoking
>Actually I was here first, and I'm allowed to smoke here. Why not move to one of the many tables further away?
[And you see that uses 3 separate legitimate reasons that she should shut the fuck up.]
>No, you stop smoking.
>Not happening. You can either accept that or get lost.

Because at least you made some effort not to meet her aggressiveness with more aggressiveness. You would have been polite and calm and mature and then when that didn't work you still had the option to antagonize the soccer mom.

Now that we're on the subject of smoking, I actually have a severe health-related aversion to smoking. I'm unwell and lack the lung capacity of the average person. Prolonged exposure to second-hand smoke does and will make me woozy and eventually pass out from lack of oxygen; it's the same as choking for me.
Nonetheless, I would never think that my health concerns are reason to inconvenience another human being's right to choice.
Were I in the situation of desiring to sit outside of a café for whatever reason and there were people smoking at one table and there were many choices for seating, I'd choose to seat myself as far as possible or forgo my wish to sit outside at that particular café altogether and either request my drink to go and enjoy it elsewhere or just have it inside.
As long as I still have as equal a chance to access things I want and need as other, there's no problem.
I will not circumvent someone else's choices if said choices do not affect my right to choice in such a way that an a reasonable Plan B can't be taken.
In the café model, a reasonable Plan B would be as I stated above.

Maître d here.

I will literally, without exception, kick diners out if their kids start screaming. We are all here in dress shirts and pants and paying for a quiet evening with good food and fine atmosphere. If you pay $12 for a "tasting of vegetables", 11 of those dollars are going to not having to put up with that shit.

>go to see Avatar in the cinema
>find out seats, sit down
>trailers are about to begin, father with two 5-7 year old sons comes in
>one of those sons sits right next to me
>cue 2 1/2 hours of a little boy loudly asking his father what the hell happened because he's just too young to understand anything

It's a hilarious story for my friends but for me...not that much.
BUT

>go to see Despicable Me with girlfriend
>4pm showing
>the place is swarming with little kids and their parents
>movie begins
>everyone is completely quiet

I don't know how they did it but I was really grateful.

>>2538543

They were too distracted by the cute little yellow things

>>2538543
Same thing happened when I went to see UP.
About ten zillion kids, and they all managed to sit still and be really quiet through the whole film.

Chillins is good at sitting still for kid's movies.
I guess they must do focus groups with babies or something.

>>2537174
Fuck you braindead cunt. I don't give a shit, it's still annoying as fuck to everyone around you.

Would you mind if I screamed in your ear?

>implying BABIES who can't even control their own bowl movements, or talk yet, can control themselves enough to behave in public. Let alone someone else control them.

This is the land of the free. (If you live in the U.S.) you don't like the fact that we can walk around in public with screaming kids? Then GTFO.

Ugly ass abeeno baby... Should have smothered it at birth...

Here's what I do when the little fuckers are trying to ruin my meal.

I walk right over to the table, ignore the shitty parents, look the little fucker in the eye and say, "Look you little shit, I'll hurt you and your parents if you don't shut the fuck up and straighten out right fucking now!"

Parents, even really shitty ones, never want to put their child at risk so they just get all, "well I've never", and "I'm going to call the police" about it. Which of course doesn't mean shit.

Try it next time. A parent will never fight in front of their kids, it's instinctual to try and get the kids safe before that happens.

>>2539863

Enjoy your jailtime, dipshit. You just committed a crime.

>>2539863

Wow, you threatened a child. Your so cool and edgy, I whetted my panties.

>>2539863
you're obviously twelve and don't get out much.

show me a flannel-wearing, beer-guzzling, wife-beating redneck with a stomach that hangs out under his shirt, and I'll show you somebody that will gladly beat you into the floor before he gives a flying fuck about his kids.