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    183 KB Another Anon 04/09/10(Fri)18:46 No.1721696  
    I know /ck/ has a good deal of people with opinions about vegans/vegetarians (one way or another), but what do you think of this?

    >http://www.slate.com/id/2248998/

    >When I became a vegan, I didn't draw an X through everything marked "Animalia" on the tree of life. And when I pick out my dinner, I don't ask myself: What do I have to do to remain a vegan? I ask myself: What is the right choice in this situation? Eating ethically is not a purity pissing contest, and the more vegans or vegetarians pretend that it is, the more their diets start to resemble mere fashion—and thus risk being dismissed as such.

    Not even close to a vegan here, this article just genuinely interests me, and I'd like to know what /ck/'s vegan/vegetarian population thinks. Let's try to get in a good discussion before the trolls start up.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)18:53 No.1721719
    I'm an ovo-vegetarian (free range eggs are the only animal product I eat) and I pretty much agree with that quote. When I stopped eating meat, it was barely even a conscious decision. I'm pretty sure I was like 13 at the time. I've always really loved animals and had toyed with the idea of cutting meat out of my diet before, it made me feel guilty to think about eating it, and then one day something just clicked and I stopped. I just didn't have a desire to eat it anymore. It's a personal choice for me, I just don't like meat enough to continue eating it at the expense of animals dying. I don't care if other people eat meat, I don't care if other people don't. I don't think it matters! I don't even tell people about my diet unless they specifically ask.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:14 No.1721868
    >>1721719

    Excellent. You are the kind of vegetarian I like.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:21 No.1721875
    Sounds sensible to me. I tend not to buy meat, but I will eat it if it's already been purchased/cooked/given to me. I feel worse seeing it go to waste. As for oysters...Sounds awesome, man.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:21 No.1721878
    That may be the most sane vegan quote ever, even though it still sounds like it came out of the mouth of a bathshit insane person.

    I'm a vegetarian most of the time. I still eat meat, love the shit. But I just can't deny that I physically feel much better when I don't eat meat. When I eat meat, especially a lot of meat, my digestion slows down and I feel all around shitty until it passes. It affects my mood, my energy levels, etc.

    When I eat just fruits and vegetables I just feel better. Though I love to cook and love meat, so, I indulge every now and then even though I pay the price. Fast food, mcdonalds and burgerking specifically give me a brief buzz that leads to a giant crash that makes me sleep and feel hung over. That takes a couple days to fully go away.

    People seem to want to talk about it a lot, who fucking cares how or why you eat?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:22 No.1721880
    Lacto-ovo veggie here(that's dairy and eggs, for those keeping score at home).

    I do my best to cut out any food containing dead animals out of my diet. That means on top of no animal flesh, there's also no gelatin, no glycerin, and of course nothing like Caesar dressing or Worcestershire sauce, to name a few examples.

    I realize this may make me seem like I'm buying into the 'purity pissing contest' but it's just how I prefer to eat. I don't tell people unless they ask.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:27 No.1721887
    I try to stay as vegan, but if i'm out and the only thing to eat is like a cheese and onion roll, then fuck it, i'm eating the roll, preaty much the same when it comes to meat actually, the point is not to cut down, and try where posible. also my problem is whith the meat industry i.e factory farms, so why should i be bothered if someone shoots a rabbit or catches a fish if they eat it, but when i try to talk about that with other vegatarians/vegans they go fucking insane at me
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:34 No.1721896
    >>1721887
    shit the point IS to cut down, me and my typing
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:36 No.1721901
    >>1721887
    i feel the same way. as long as the animal is respected throughout it's life i wouldn't have a problem eating it (food chain). but seeing as its so hard to actually find and be SURE your meat comes from a good environment, ill stick with being veggie.

    on a side note, i'm lactose intolerant so the only animal product i really eat are eggs. prefer free range.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:39 No.1721910
    This here...

    >There are dozens of reasons to become a vegan, but just two should suffice: Raising animals for food 1) destroys the planet and 2) causes those animals to suffer. Factory farms are the worst offenders, but even the best-run animal operations can't get around the fact that livestock are the largest contributors to global warming worldwide and that the same amount of land used to feed one beef-eater can feed 15 to 20 vegans.

    100 percent pure feces. What do I think of this article? The person writing it is a liar and a fraud and it's as offensive as any backwards religious dogma.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:43 No.1721919
    >>1721910
    ok, live stock is definately not the bigest global warming thingy, but feeding livestock does use up alot of land that can be used to produce food for humans, infact beef uses up alot more land and water than any pland crop
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:46 No.1721925
    ITT: A bunch of fags who still eat animal products but claim to be vegetarians.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:51 No.1721945
    >>1721919

    You can raise beef where corn CAN'T GROW AT ALL PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD NOT ALL LAND IS THE SAME.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:52 No.1721947
    >>1721919
    >>1721910

    do your research, because yeah livestock is the biggest contributor to global warming.

    >>1721925
    vegetarian is different than vegan fgt
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:53 No.1721953
    >>1721947
    no it fucking isn't. i mean the fuck is wrong with you, this was one of the biggest myths that were being told in the media for years and it got disproven I MEAN WHAT KIND OF STUPID DUMBFUCK ARE YOU THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN ACTUALLY UPDATE YOUR STUPID LITTLE MENTAL FILES YOU STUPID CUNTLICKING PIECE OF SHIT? WE'RE NOT STUCK IN THE NINETIES, THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME NEXT THAT EGGS GIVE YOU HIGH CHOLESTEROL?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:53 No.1721955
    article tl;dr, but the guy doesn't call himself a vegan anymore.

    i've met "vegetarians" who eat pork once in a while, or other meat.

    imo it's like me saying i'm black when in fact i'm white as hell.

    eat whatever the hell you want, but vegan and vegetarian have a specific meaning.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:53 No.1721958
    >>1721947do your research, because yeah livestock is the biggest contributor to global warming.

    If by research you mean Peta's homepage I think I'll pass.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:55 No.1721960
    The biggest contributor to global warming is coal burning for electricity. That doesn't mean that methane from livestock isn't a large contributor.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:56 No.1721961
    >>1721947

    >do your research, because yeah livestock is the biggest contributor to global warming.

    They're the largest contributor of some greenhouse gases(nitrous oxide and methane, if I remember correctly), but on the whole they're not even close to the largest contributor to global warming.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:57 No.1721964
    >>1721955

    I only claim to usually eat vegetarian. Meaning a vegetarian diet.

    I don't really identify with anyone who'd be so bold as to self identify with that as if it were some special group. "I'm a Jewish", "I'm a Vegetarian". Seems silly.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:57 No.1721965
    >>1721961

    Correction: It's the production of fertilizer that produces nitrous, not livestock. Sorry.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:58 No.1721968
    >>1721947
    nope its just a bit larger than transportation and nowhere near electrisity
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:58 No.1721969
    >>1721953
    chill
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:58 No.1721971
    >>1721947

    Vegetarian: a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.

    Vegan: a vegetarian who omits all animal products from the diet.

    I look at the thread and see people who state they still eat eggs and dairy, or just try to limit how much meat they eat.

    So yeah, keep on failin you guys.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)20:59 No.1721974
    >>1721971

    >in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese
    >IN SOME CASES
    >IN SOME CASES
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:00 No.1721977
    >>1721971
    >in some cases
    so that means you can eat eggs and cheese and still be a vegetarian, doesn't it? So then what is your problem?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:02 No.1721982
    >>1721955

    Reminds me of a buddy who is vegetarian but still eats fish. Wtf fish is still meat.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:03 No.1721988
    >>1721971

    This isn't some cool club, fucko, so quit trying to act like a fucking bouncer. Find something more important to be so fucking pedantic about.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:05 No.1721996
    >>1721982

    If he eats fish he isn't a vegetarian. He's a guy who doesn't like beef, pork, chicken, and other meat that isn't fish...arian.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:06 No.1721998
    >>1721982

    that's a pescetarian.
    >> joey bishop !CK5WZVMslk 04/09/10(Fri)21:06 No.1721999
    >>1721996
    Or, to the not retarded, he's a pescetarian
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:09 No.1722010
    >>1721971
    Look, if a friend of mine knows that i don't eat meat and makes me a vegatarian pasta bake that has cheese on i'm not going to say 'I'm not going to eat that because i'm a perfect vegan and should only eat ethical foods like carrots and wheat grass' am I i'm going to accept that hospitality
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:09 No.1722013
    >>1721998
    >>1721999

    I had never heard that word before. Forgive me.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:14 No.1722033
    >>1721982
    >>1721996

    i've heard of people calling themselves pesco-vegetarians. like, wtf?
    >> vark !PIDjsjVC82 04/09/10(Fri)21:19 No.1722056
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    article is ok. the general idea is think about what you eat, consider the consequences of your actions.
    i don't really like oysters, but i get his drift. i'm freegan; my buying habits are vegan. vegan is a spectrum; i eat sugar without worrying too much about whether its processed with bone, i might eat honey without worrying too much about whether the bees are non-union. i might eat bugs under the right circumstances. i've met singer a couple times and like his approach: thinking logically about right and wrong and trying to figure out what's right, and sharing his thoughts with others who care to listen.
    where i grew up, the oysters had been overfished to near extinction, and pollution got most of the rest.
    but yeah if oyster farming helps clean up the pollution, and makes pearls, go for it, but label your oysters so i know they aren't being mined.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:23 No.1722082
    the author of the slate article is a bitch. his only argument for eating oysters is that they are "unlikely to experience pain in a way resembling ours" and don't move when hurt. that's not enough of a justification to differentiate between oysters and other animals. i prefer to err on the side of not eating them as there's no reason to and prefer to be consistent (not pure).
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:24 No.1722086
    >>1722056

    sugar is processed with bone????
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:24 No.1722093
    >>1721868
    >hurr durr, i like you because you don't ask me to question by beliefs
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:26 No.1722102
    In other words typical yank PETA hippie vegan nonsense.

    And that is what makes it ridiculous. As if the need for eating normal food always comes with retarded animal rights ideology and pot smoker mentality. But hey, this is USA for you: What is considered normal nutrition elsewhere is in USA so trivilised that it only attracts the non-conformist idiot crowd.

    Here is a quick solution: We line up all normal fatass McD´s-going americans along with these retarded hippies and execute all of them. No one is going to miss any of it and human genepool would be factually bettered. Do it for the sake of mankind if not solely for the plain disgust of american moronic trash.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:26 No.1722104
    >>1722082
    Then there is no justification for eating vegetables.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:27 No.1722107
    >>1722102
    not one word of that made any sense
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:27 No.1722109
    >>1722082

    It's not like farming them doesn't harm the other species either.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:29 No.1722112
    >>1721961

    Good thing we killed all the American Bison then.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:30 No.1722117
    >>1722107

    Well, that is the truth in essence. In USA everything is fundamentally perverse, there are only different variations of that same perversity.

    Let´s not forget the most important of all. Death to average american. That is the basic principle of all because the masses of USA make USA what it is. It is all about volume.

    And rampart retardation mixed with subpar education.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:31 No.1722122
    >>1722112
    oh you
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:31 No.1722124
    >>1722104
    plants have no pain receptors and have naturally evolved to be eaten (that's why they produce fruit).
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:32 No.1722131
    >>1722117
    What does anything you are saying have to do with anything in this thread or the article?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:32 No.1722133
    >>1722124
    ahh thats true, and the plants that did not want to be eaten are poisenous
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:32 No.1722136
    I got terribly sick eating some clams once, and haven't been able to stomach any bivalves since.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:33 No.1722137
    >>1722124
    And oysters don't have the necessary neurology to feel pain either. And they have evolved as food too
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:33 No.1722140
    >>1722102

    Throw in the Jews and we've got a deal.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:34 No.1722146
    >>1722131

    Well, what is the big deal really?

    Everyone here knows that american food is trash. Everyone knows that fastfood is ridiculously unhealthy.
    Is it really such huge shocker to find out that McD´s is super unhealthy and causes chronic obesity in? I mean, really, let us not pretend that we did not know this by heart
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:35 No.1722148
    >>1722137
    err not too sure about that one
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:35 No.1722149
    >>1721961
    no, it comes pretty close if not over the point of being considered the largest contributor. It's not just methane and other gases, though. The whole range of environmental degradation has to be taken into account: topsoil erosion, deforestation, pesticides and herbicides and nitrates used to produce the massive amounts of feed they consume, waste, which has caused damage to aquatic ecosystems and killed millions of fish in reported cases of "fish kills" and algal blooms. Read Livestock's Long Shadow if you give a shit about these issues.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:35 No.1722151
    >>1722146
    Nigger,
    WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??

    holy shit, why not read the article first, and then see if you are saying anything relevant at all
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:36 No.1722155
    >>1722148
    and neither are you sure that plants don't feel pain
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:37 No.1722157
    >>1722155
    ah, touche
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:39 No.1722162
    >>1722151

    Well, I have a political position. I want to endorse real traditional restaurant culture, not fastfood culture. Fastfood is an american phenomenon. It is a fact that it is harmful phenomenon. By any means I do not want to ban grill or street canteens but just yank or yank-esque fastfood chains. They are like a plague in the catering business. An american plague. In Europe.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:39 No.1722163
    saw this over on fark too....

    the article writer is a faggot in the fact that he rationalizes away his (and all) 'veganism' in 3 short sentences. The word vegan should never have been used in this article

    Also, using logic - a vegan shouldnt drink beer either. Yeast are living things too!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:40 No.1722171
    >>1722137

    Sounds like all we need to do is get some genetic engineers busy growing cows that don't feel any pain, and then all the vegan shitheads will be happy.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:40 No.1722174
    Gun-loving,Meat-eating conservative here. I can understand Vegetarians. There are studies suggesting it's healthier, especially for people with certain health conditions. The people who do it for moral reasons I disagree with, but it's their choice.

    Vegans, WTF man? To not eat anything that has had anything to do with an animal is ridiculous.When you need your own isle at the supermarket, I think your diet is a little too specialized. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
    >> vark !PIDjsjVC82 04/09/10(Fri)21:41 No.1722176
    >>1722086
    i dunno, it's something i've heard but remaining willfully blind about.

    connection between livestock and global warming is that centuries of overgrazing turn forests into deserts.
    put up a fence in the desert to keep livestock out and it grows back into prairie, prairie into new-growth forest.
    overgrazing isnt the only cause of deforestation,and deforestation isn't the only cause of global warming, but they are connected.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:41 No.1722177
    >>1722171
    And don't need to eat.
    Then us shitheads would be happy.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:41 No.1722180
    I am a vegan, and as such I must let everyone know. You see, as a vegan I have self esteem problems, and by letting everyone know of my ethically and morally superior lifestyle I am proving I am better than you.

    You see, I have a psychological impairment that does not allow me to differentiate between animals as food and humans. You know how pets like cats and dogs are bread with certain characteristics to make them more appealing to humans, well its like that except I am attracted to, I mean I feel for all the worlds animals.

    I am educated (obviously as a vegan more educated than you) and believe in evolution. The traits that humans exhibit such as, poor ability to digest plant matter (I do fart too much and my breath wreaks), omnivore digestion system and lactose tolerance past adolescence are things I don't understand because its just carnivore propaganda that everyone just calls proven facts.

    I, being so in tune with nature, only eat organic. Even though organic food means nothing, I choose to believe it makes me better. The food I eat is so natural, even though I must eat lots of heavily processed foods (like soy) fortified with nutrients (mostly made from the byproducts of bacteria one would never eat) I can't get just from plant life. And because it is not possible to maintain my health using only local plants, the extra carbon created by all the hauling of foods from around the world to me is offset by how awesome I am.

    I am vegan, and although my diet isn't healthy or sustainable, I am better than you.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:41 No.1722181
    >>1722174
    kosher and halal food has entire stores
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:43 No.1722190
    >>1722177

    How about we engineer them to feed on human waste?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:43 No.1722191
    sure is faggot copypasta in here.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:43 No.1722192
    >>1722174
    Animal products require animals
    Animals require food - which could be used for humans
    food requires land and growth - which requires fossil fuels.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:44 No.1722195
    >>1722190
    get on it
    also, make them not conscious

    you would be the savior of mankind
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:44 No.1722197
    >>1721696
    I see what you mean about having a sensible discussion before the trolls start up
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:45 No.1722200
    >>1722197
    >Implying anything said in this thread has been sensible.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:45 No.1722205
    >>1722137
    no. just because the don't have a central nervous system doesn't mean they can't feel pain. It's a marginal issue, however, and doesn't take away from the fact that we know that cows and pigs feel pain and process emotions similarly to how we do.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:46 No.1722207
    >>1722162
    Why don't you talk about it in a thread where it is even remotely relevant?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:47 No.1722210
    >>1722205
    And just because plants don't have traditional pain receptors doesn't mean the don't feel pain either.

    All we can do is go by our understanding of pain, what it looks like, and what it requires. And oysters don't have what it takes, as far as we know.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:47 No.1722212
    >>1722200
    I think that there have been some good points raised
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:48 No.1722216
    >>1722174
    dude, it's not about health (even though vegetarianism is healthier across the board). and calling veganism "ridiculous" and "specialized" makes a lousy argument.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:49 No.1722222
    >>1722216
    Agreed
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:50 No.1722223
    >>1722216

    I don't think he was really trying to make an argument, just state his opinion.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:51 No.1722229
    >>1722216

    If it isn't about health than what is it about?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:51 No.1722231
    >>1722229
    environmental impact?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:52 No.1722234
    >>1722223
    everything is an argument when ic comes to vrgatarianism, it's not a bad thing its just because people feel stongly about it
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:52 No.1722235
    >>1722210
    no, they don't have a central nervous system, but they do have pain receptors. i'm not just claiming they have something because it can't be proved that they don't have it--that would be a shit argument. they have pain receptors, that's why the author says they probably don't experience pain in a "similar way" as we do.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:52 No.1722240
    Meat eater here.
    I know vegetarians, pescetarians, and all that. I don't really care what you eat or why you eat it as long as I don't have to listen to some sob story about how I'm some unethical monster because I ate a pulled pork sandwich.

    The way I see it, animals eat each other. Humans have canines, we were meant to eat some variety of meat. This shit is basic. If you don't like the taste of beef, that's your perogative.

    The only people I outright dislike are vegans. Those fags need vitamin supplements and food that is seriously processed six ways from sunday in order to eat. That shit is not natural.

    Oh, and those really crazy fucks who think they can gain sustenance from the sun.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:53 No.1722241
    >>1722235
    http://davidsright.blogspot.com/2007/01/mythbusters-prove-plants-feel-pain.html
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:54 No.1722244
    >>1722231

    So moral/ethical bullshit then?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:55 No.1722249
    >>1722231
    pssh, if you knew what you were talking about you would already know buying locally from reputable farmers/farmer's markets/co-ops is much more environmentally friendly than buying vegetarian food items. if you are still buying from con-agra and their ilk, you are not any more environmentally friendly than anyone else.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:55 No.1722250
    >>1722235
    to experience pain in a dissimilar way is not to experience "pain" at all (since all we could ever mean by it is the way we experience it). What if by "experiencing pain" all is mean that they move to avoid it, like a robot? Are they still experiencing pain?

    And how do you know that plants do not also experience pain in a dissimilar fashion (whatever the hell that could possibly mean)?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:55 No.1722251
    >>1722229
    it's about ethics. environmentalism is secondary to ethics, because environmentalism is consequential. It's like saying, "We better stop burning all these Jews because it's creating all this smog", rather than, "Maybe we shouldn't kill Jews because it's wrong."
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:57 No.1722259
    >>1722249
    I do buy local
    so... I know everything?

    That does not negate the fact that a VEGAN (why the hell did you bring up vegetarianism?) diet is less impact than a vegetarian one. And whence do those animal products in my non-vegan food come? Probably not from local farmers, huh?

    you fucking lost the plot on this argument, buddy.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:57 No.1722260
    >>1722250
    i'm fucking saying that they possess the same basic mechanism for pain reception as we do. you're claiming some vague possibility for plants to experience pain that is totally unsubstantiated.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:57 No.1722264
    >>1722241

    Bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:58 No.1722265
    >>1722192

    Gun-loving,Meat-eating Conservative back again

    >Animals require food - which could be used for humans

    Animals require grains and grass. I think we can all agree that we'd like a broader diet for ourselves

    > food requires land and growth - which requires fossil fuels

    Agricultural animals have been around far longer than the widespread use of fossil fuels.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:59 No.1722268
    >>1722260
    but they don't
    I do not move my hand from a stove because I am in pain. I move it because it is hot. The pathway is short-circuited, and it never reaches my CNS. I don't experience that pain at all. Now if I didn't have a CNS, I probably would never experience pain
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:59 No.1722272
    >>1722265
    dude, you're stupid
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:01 No.1722284
    >>1722241
    no, the mythbusters proven that psuedo science, cult bullshit to be wrong. the book they reference never had scientific validity.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:02 No.1722289
    >>1722265
    animal farming has been aroung longer but factory farming (that causes most of the damage) has only been aroung since the 40s
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    >>1722240
    That jibes with what Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine President Dr. Neal Barnard says in his book, The Power of Your Plate, in which he explains that “early humans had diets very much like other great apes, which is to say a largely plant-based diet, drawing on foods we can pick with our hands. Research suggests that meat-eating probably began by scavenging—eating the leftovers that carnivores had left behind. However, our bodies have never adapted to it. To this day, meat-eaters have a higher incidence of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and other problems.”

    There is no more authoritative source on anthropological issues than paleontologist Dr. Richard Leakey, who explains what anyone who has taken an introductory physiology course might have discerned intuitively: humans are herbivores. Leakey notes that “[y]ou can’t tear flesh by hand, you can’t tear hide by hand… We wouldn’t have been able to deal with food source that required those large canines.” (Although we have teeth that are called “canines,” they bear little resemblance to the canines of carnivores).

    In fact, our hands are perfect for grabbing and picking fruits and vegetables. Similarly, like the intestines of other herbivores, ours are very long (carnivores have short intestines so they can quickly get rid of all that rotting flesh they eat). We don’t have sharp claws to seize and hold down prey. And most of us (hopefully) lack the instinct that would drive us to chase and then kill animals and devour their raw carcasses. Dr. Milton Mills builds on these points and offers dozens more in his essay, “A Comparative Anatomy of Eating.”
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:04 No.1722299
    this vegan oyster bullshit is tl;dr

    i like mine fresh/raw with lemon. or bacon wrapped with a toothpick and some bbq sauce
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:06 No.1722308
    My two cents:

    I don't care what you eat or why, just don't come to me saying that your dietary choices make you a better person than those of us who include meat in our diets.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:07 No.1722312
    Protip: Very few plants and animals wish to be consumed and die.

    Saying you want to go vegetarian because you want to spare an animal pain is retarded, because the animal dies painlessly most of the time. They are knocked unconscious and then executed painlessly and efficiently.

    Wanting to eat plants because they apparently do not feel pain when you kill them to consume them is therefore a moot argument.

    The only ethical concerns you could possibly have would be you are against killing something that is aware enough to value its own life, in which case you cannot kill 99.99999999% of life on earth and you'd have to start eating coral and those plants that intentionally expect bats to eat them to shit out the seeds far away, or some environmental claptrap. And that's just that: claptrap. If you believe changing your diet will somehow brighten the environment you're basically like an ant believing you can move the sun.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:07 No.1722313
    >>1722308
    They do, brah.
    Sorry you can't deal with that fact.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:07 No.1722314
    >>1722299
    or just dropped into a hot bowl of soup (leek and potato is the best)
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:09 No.1722324
    >>1722312
    Actually it's not
    Even if plants feel pain, eating meat just means that more plants die (ya know, to feed the meat)

    so... you're an idiot
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:10 No.1722329
    >>1722290

    >Ignoring that canines are meant for tearing meat
    >Pretending there aren't cro-magnon era cave scratches of humans actively hunting down animals
    >Ignoring that human beings make up for a lack of talons with brains and the ability to make tools
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:10 No.1722331
    >>1722251

    maybe i should put scrubbers on my stacks to reduce jew-smog. or buy carbon offsets.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:12 No.1722344
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    >>1722308
    oh, but it does
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:14 No.1722347
    >>1722344
    I think I want to buy a pig, and make him all cute and smart. Then show it to meat eating fags and be all "you make them live shut up in tiny pens where they can't even move around." And then get him to bite their fingers off.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:16 No.1722354
    >>1722329
    almost all mammals have canines (seriously). It's just a class of teeth, even herbivores have them. And ours don't resemble carnivore canines at all.

    Ask any anthropologist and they'll tell you the same things, humans are "designed" for digesting plants. Our closest relatives (other primates) eat mostly fruits and vegetables.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:17 No.1722362
    >>1722312
    >>1722312
    that's just too retarded to respond to
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:19 No.1722374
    >>1722308
    this kind of attitude is more obnoxious than anything else. take your lazy, antinomian ass and gtfo.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:20 No.1722377
    >>1722354

    plus the human digestive tract isn't even close to what a carnivore's digestive tract is like.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:24 No.1722387
    ITT: meatfags mad because their diet is stupid and harmful
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:41 No.1722446
    >>1722354
    And the hippo's closest living relatives are whales that doesn't mean hippos eat squids.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:42 No.1722447
    >>1722446
    whales eat squid?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:43 No.1722452
    >>1722447
    You didn't know that?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:45 No.1722460
    >>1722446

    I bet they would if they could though. Hippos are fuckin awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:46 No.1722462
    they eat krill. killer whales eat seals and shit, but it's a poor analogy. humans and other great apes are much closer biologically
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:46 No.1722464
    >>1722460
    Did you know adult hippos can't swim?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:46 No.1722466
    >>1722387
    >ITT: vegans reject reality and substitute their own

    fixed
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:47 No.1722467
    >>1722464
    too fat?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:47 No.1722470
    >>1722464

    Fuck you they can if I believe in them!!!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:47 No.1722471
    >>1722466
    you WOULD say that, wouldn't you
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:48 No.1722473
    Typical Slate article. He even uses that Emerson quote. Words mean things. He's just a picky eater. Vegan means "no animal products". Your average vegan may slip up now and then, but there is that commitment. All assholes like him do is muddy the waters even more when many people still think fish is vegetarian.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:50 No.1722477
    >>1722467
    Yep. They sink to the bottom. And can run(ish) on the bottom. They also are able to surface when asleep so that they can stay alive while they're sleeping in the water.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:52 No.1722480
    >>1722477
    How do they sink to the bottom and float on the surface?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:53 No.1722483
    >>1722477
    >And can run(ish) on the bottom
    lol
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:53 No.1722484
    >>1722480
    Shallow areas. Hippos also can communicate in the air and in the water at the same time.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:55 No.1722492
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    Any vegan who looks remotely healthy is eating meat. They can't deny their urges but they'll deny just about anything else.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:59 No.1722499
    >>1722484
    They propel themselves to the surface by jumping. And slow means 5mph in the water.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:01 No.1722502
    BACK THE FUCK UP

    A biologist just got here.

    OK, to those talking about humans evolving away from eating meat: Those big flat teeth in the back are for chewing plants. All the sharp ones in the front? Sorry buddy, those are for meat.


    >>1722176
    To the guy who said grazing causes deserts... Serious? If so, LOLOLOLOLO lrn2hadelycell

    To the environmentally conscious, methane is many times more effective at trapping heat as CO2, however it is far less abundant, and far less of a concern to global climate change (not global warming anymore because dumbasses stop believing in it when it gets cold)

    To the pescatarians: You may not know it but on a molucular level fish flesh is not meat. Different quality.

    Further, not all animals experience pain like we do.

    Further further, plants DO experience extremely similar responses to mechanical stimuli as we do for pain, ie release of hormones to cut off nutrients to a lost "limb" and electric potentials to transmit info, like our nervous system.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:03 No.1722511
    >>1722502
    I don't know if this will make much sense, (consider you actually have quite a bit of knowledge in this field) but your brain and most of your body is made up of fat, right? Wouldn't it make sense to indulge in and eat fats (usually saturated animal fats) to promote a better body?
    I mean, if you eat fat, it's not as if it automatically becomes fat on you.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:04 No.1722513
    We should just start herding all the poor people and make soylent green.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:05 No.1722514
    >>1722513
    Stupid power have guns. You try herding them and they'll shoot you.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:06 No.1722518
    >>1722354
    Biologist back to school some of you ignorant fucks.

    There's a study on ape's eating habits, they have recreational sex like us. They also go hunting like us. The cool part? Female apes have sex with apes who provide them with meat from hunts TWICE AS OFTEN as those who do not. Tard, canines are not present in herbivores, look at a horses mouth, most dinosaurs mouths, a cow's mouth.

    Then look at a wolves, a snakes, and our front ones. Your google-fu is weak, my son.

    >>1722377
    You...you just...oh god you're just so dumb.
    Our digestive tract isn't like carnivores? No? Is it like herbivores with special bacteria to digest cellulose so we can eat plants? With many chambers to get the most nutrition out of nutrionally weak grass and stuff?

    NO it's like a wolves with one, muscular, highly acidic chamber for breaking up meat and shit.

    STOP TALKING ON WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW YOU IGNORANT FUCKS
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:08 No.1722527
    >>1722514

    Hm...Well then, let's trick them with promises of free pie or something.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:11 No.1722537
    >>1722511
    Bio man back, yea we do need fat in our diet, but you don't need it from animal sources. Like avocados have a bunch of fats.

    Fats get broken down into their base forms and used by our body, because our body can't make some of those base forms. That's pretty much what good nutrition is, finding our what our bodies can't make itself, and eating those things. The plain truth of the matter is we evolved to eat both meat and plants.

    BUT we can survive on just one or the other. ie the inuits almost never get veggies, but were far healthier than we are now (no heart diseases, incredible teeth etc) just like vegans can technically suurvive with a bunch of supplemements.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:13 No.1722544
    Oh so no one wants to talk when someone who actually knows what they're talking about shows up? Fine I'll go back to /b/ then

    Bio man, out.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:14 No.1722547
    >>1722502
    I'm pretty sure methane is a larger cause of global warming than CO2 emitted by cars.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:14 No.1722548
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    >>1722518
    that's some major bullshit
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:15 No.1722551
    >>1722544
    You only addressed one line of thought. I don't give a shit if we have canines or not. It's still environmentally harmful and wasteful, and nothing you've said contradicts that.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:15 No.1722554
    >>1722537
    Right right.
    I was just curious because I recently watched the documentary "Fat Head", which talked about Super Size Me and how really, sugars and starches are what essentially make us fat (with no exercise of course). He also mentioned that fats, and saturated fats lowered his cholesterol significantly and generally made him much healthier. At the end of it, he went on a complete "fat" diet and lost around 10 pounds.
    I understand veggies are good for you, but I just can't comprehend on how eating meat and fats would ever be bad for you (unless you're eating 100000 calories of them, and in that case, eating anything of that amount is probably bad).
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:15 No.1722555
    ITT: Vegetarians rationalizing their poor choices
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:17 No.1722557
    One month ago I decided to start my preparation to start living on light. My plan is to read everything related with this subject, see all videos available, do some experiences to know how my body reacts and be sure that it is really what I want to do. At this time, I'm eating only fruits, nuts and water, but unfortunately, yesterday and today, my body asked me some chocolate, so I gave him some. Now I have 3 months to read the book "Living on Light" by Jasmuheen (at least 3 times), read the book "Life Style Without Food" (at least 3 times too), read others books as "In Resonance" by Jasmuheen, "Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East" by Baird T. Spalding, "Ancient Secret of the Fountain of Youth" by Peter Kelder, "Living on Sunlight" by Hira Ratan Manek and maybe "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda. Some weekends I intend to be an entire day not eating at all. And other weekends, be one entire day with no food and no water at all. I intend to test my body to have experiences and know how my body reacts to the experiences.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:18 No.1722558
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    >>1722548
    your image is definitely NSFW
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:20 No.1722563
    >>1722544
    >knows what they're talking about
    >goes to /b/
    oh so you're only a bio major? probably not even that, right? You study bio in high school?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:20 No.1722564
    >>1722518
    you obviously know nothing about biology. Sheep, oxen, and deer have canines. You're completely wrong about the human digestive track as well. I'm not going to waste my time pointing out how fucking off you are on everything you wrote.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:24 No.1722575
    >>1722551

    And despite your noble efforts, there are still hundreds of millions of people who don't give a fuck about the environment, so you're probably not accomplishing anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:25 No.1722576
    >>1722575
    That is okay with me.
    I am only in control of my own actions, so I will act in accordance with what I think is right.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:25 No.1722580
    >>1722518NO it's like a wolves with one, muscular, highly acidic chamber for breaking up meat and shit.

    Yup.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:28 No.1722591
    >>1722575
    my position is that people are generally apathetic, which is why society is designed to enforce rules and principles through coercion--the threat of enteral or earthly punishment, fines, social hatred, etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:29 No.1722594
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    >>1722564
    There's a deer skull
    Show me the canines. I do not see any canines that are shaped like ours in that skull.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:29 No.1722596
    >>1722591
    my point is that those of us who do care argue it out and force it on the rest of you amoral fucks.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:30 No.1722599
    >I do not see any canines that are shaped like ours
    there's your problem. take it up with Encyclopedia Britannica, faggot.
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    >>1722594
    >doesn't know what canines are
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:32 No.1722605
    >>1722596

    Because forcing your beliefs on others is always a good idea amirite?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:32 No.1722608
    >>1722605
    it's the only way that society can exist and progress
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:34 No.1722621
    >>1722603
    LOLOL BECAUSE I TOTALLY SAID IT DIDN'T HAVE CANINES AT ALL.
    No, they have the canine teeth but they do not have them in the same faculty or shape of canine as we do or as a predator does.
    We are not designed to subside on plant-matter alone. New evolutionary studies prove that we actually ate more shellfish and fish in general in our evolutionary chain.
    Comparing us to deer and other large plant-eaters is the most faggoty and retarded ass thing to do. We are omnivorous. Dumbshits
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:34 No.1722622
    >>1722596
    This is a good position too
    Prop 2 passed in CA way back when. Maybe in time, we will be able to force them to live rightly. Being able to argue it correctly, is important.
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:35 No.1722634
    >>1722605
    We force our beliefs that stealing is wrong on others
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:36 No.1722641
    >>1722622
    yeah, it takes a little finesse. with amorality comes stubbornness and privilege.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:37 No.1722646
    >>1722621
    and we don't have canines like carnivores
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:39 No.1722661
    >>1722641
    I swear, where would we be if not for people who care forcing people who don't care to live rightly?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:39 No.1722663
    >>1722646
    I didn't say that we did.
    In truth if you want to compare us to our closest DNA relatives (apes ect.) then we should be eating a diet mostly containing fish/shellfish (sometimes), insects, and fruits. No grains or anything like that.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:40 No.1722669
    >>1722518
    woah, goddam you are stupid. just about everyone knows that horses and llamas have canines. they are called fighting teeth, and are usually removed because they can fuck each others' shit up when they fight with each other. goddam, this is common knowledge to anyone who isn't a city slicker.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:40 No.1722673
    >>1722661
    mexico
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:41 No.1722677
    >>1722673
    That or somalia or some shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:42 No.1722683
    So if what I'm reading is correct, you're either a vegan or an anarchist? God I love you /ck/
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:43 No.1722687
    ITT: Idealistic hippies who think they can actually accomplish something if they keep fighting for it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:47 No.1722705
    >>1722687
    Prop 2, nigger
    deal with it
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:48 No.1722709
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    OH FUCK I LOVE OYSTERS
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:48 No.1722710
    >>1722705

    Who the fuck cares about California?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:51 No.1722723
    Bio man back from /b/

    So you don't believe apes trade sex for meat?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090407223640.htm

    bam.

    You don't think I'm a bio major (third year at Temple University, btw) then prove me wrong on something instead of calling me out on my education.

    Yes, they have canines, in the same way we have homologous bone structures with whales, cats, and every other fucking mammal.

    The point is our canines are for biting and cutting meat you dip shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:52 No.1722728
    >>1722710
    Being that I live there, I do
    and that is just a start. We will make you all see the error of your ways eventually
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:53 No.1722729
    >>1722723
    What about those of us who aren't so stupid as to fall into naturalistic fallacies?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:55 No.1722737
    >>1722729
    You can do whatever you want.

    The point is we evoloved to eat meat. Since we don't know how exactly our bodies need meat, cutting it out and hoping we can replace it with veggies makes as much sense as saying it's unethical to breathe O2 anymore, we should switch to N2 to help the environment.

    Mostly I just hate hipster fucks, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:55 No.1722738
    >>1722728

    It would be great if you would spend your time trying to help the homeless, or stop child abuse, or something, instead of worrying about fucking animal cruelty.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:57 No.1722744
    >>1722729
    Hold on, hold on, I just noticed you called me stupid for eating meat.

    There is nothing stupid about billions of years of evolution. You are the most minuscule grain of sand in the grand scheme of the human race, and your pretentious bullshit that apparently transcends what has taken inconprehensible amounts of time to create is annoying.

    Also, you have more gas. Fucker.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:58 No.1722745
    Vegetarians are traitors to their own species, the worst criminals in existence.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:58 No.1722746
    >>1722738
    Ha second that
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:00 No.1722753
    >>1722723
    well, dumbass, canines are canines. you were wrong to say they don't have them, so fuck you. you have no credibility when you make a statement than any midwestern high school dropout farmer could have refuted.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:02 No.1722758
    >>1722753
    lulz, for the record I took a focus in human ecology in college. this is why I have very little respect for vegetarians and vegans who buy mainstream products from large corporations. saw it a lot in my fellow classmates.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:02 No.1722761
    >>1722502
    This is my post,
    So
    >>1722753
    any second grader can READ that and tell you I never said herbivores don't have canines. HUUURRRRR DERRRRRRRRRR
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:04 No.1722769
    >>1722737
    Except breathing doesn't harm the environment. You have conflated to two in your mind (that we evolved a certain way, and that what we do is not harmful). They aren't the same issue
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:05 No.1722775
    >>1722738
    How do you know I don't do that? And it isn't just animal cruelty, although I guess I am against that. I don't wish to be wasteful, so take some steps to avoid being so.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:06 No.1722777
    >>1722744
    I didn't call you stupid for eating meat, you fucking retard. I called you stupid for buying into naturalistic fallacies, and for assuming that everyone else did.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:07 No.1722780
    >>1722761
    >>1722518 Tard, canines are not present in herbivores, look at a horses mouth, most dinosaurs mouths, a cow's mouth.

    ?!?! looks like you did..
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:08 No.1722781
    >>1722761
    wow, you just got told by
    >>1722780
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:11 No.1722787
    >182 posts and 10 image replies omitted.

    Just....no.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:12 No.1722792
    >>1722780
    Hehehehehe bio man here

    Guess what? Most horses, cows, and herbivourous dinos dn't have canines.

    Mmmmm sweet sweet trolling
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:13 No.1722794
    >>1722792
    >get told
    >"mmm sweet trolling"
    God, you're a retard
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:17 No.1722806
    >>1722794
    Oh so I'm wrong then? Cows, horses, and herbivorous dinosaurs DO have canines?

    Oh no wait, they don't.

    Further, canines have taken on highly vestigial places in the jaw structure of herbivores who still retain them.

    I have to give you asshats something to keep you talking, otherwise you'd just roll over in a veggie induced coma and I'd have no fun left.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:19 No.1722813
    Unrelated: I love oysters on the half-shell.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:20 No.1722816
    >>1722813
    Completely related, actually.

    This is the food forum.
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    >> Another Anon 04/10/10(Sat)00:21 No.1722819
    >>1722813

    Entirely related, oysters are awesome.

    I like them smoked, on melba toasts.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:22 No.1722823
    ITT: naturalistic fallacy
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    >>1722792
    pretty meh to be trolling /ck/ with /an/-related trivia. getting desperate?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:24 No.1722831
    >>1722828

    no, /ck/ is just that easy to troll
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:27 No.1722844
    >>1722831
    I don't understand what it is you think "trolling" is.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:28 No.1722847
    >>1722831
    /ck/ isn't a very fast moving board. what you think is trolling is mental stimulation to others. lulz, joke's on you I guess.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:28 No.1722850
    I was actually here looking for cheap, college related recipes, and I couldn't resist fucking with some protien deprived chicken fuckers
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:30 No.1722854
    >>1722850
    By showing that they're right?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:31 No.1722856
    >>1722850
    hilariously, I only posted in this shitty thread to correct you. otherwise I am sick of these threads, they're old news.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:31 No.1722857
    Ok, before I leave, some of you should actually read that article on trading meat for sex. It's legit, and pretty to the point.

    Kinda goes along with the whole, women orgasm more with rich men thing, but that's for another board. Later chicks and peas.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:33 No.1722861
    >>1722854
    Read my arguments.

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:36 No.1722868
    >>1722861
    The factually incorrect ones, or the naturalistic fallacy (theoretically incorrect) ones?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:37 No.1722871
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    >>1722868
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:39 No.1722876
    >>1722871
    I'm jsut not sure which incorrect arguments you wanted me to revisit.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:56 No.1722920
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    this thread is much funnier than I thought it was going to be. jolly good!



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