>>455364636 (OP)
Because it's a weapon. For Assaulting.
It's an assault weapon.

Why is it that 'murica is so butthurt about Assault Weapons being banned?

Shit, I reckon Semi's and fully Auto's should be banned.

It isn't like you NEED an AK-47 to defend your home when a 9mm can do the same job.

If they are the exact same weapon then it doesn't really effect you does it? just get the top one..it does the same job no?

>>455365089
I'd rather stab an intruder and hold him in my arms as I watch him bleed to death. The last image he sees is me smiling at his nigger ass for trying to steal my T.V.

File: 1359742920703.jpg-(1.69 MB, 942x3199, photo.jpg)

1.69 MB JPG

Mine, on my dirty bed, fuck you my sheets are in the washer

>>455365729
exactly bro, you would get way more satisfaction doing that than just shooting them like a punk ass bitch, I would rather beat the shit out of him and knock his teeth out than pull a trigger like a coward

you're doing criminals favors by murdering them if they break into your house because in order to break into someones house you would have to be suicidal in the first place

File: 1359743050009.png-(113 KB, 598x472, 1347726264422.png)

113 KB PNG

>>455365089
>Shit, I reckon Semi's and fully Auto's should be banned.
>It isn't like you NEED an AK-47 to defend your home when a 9mm can do the same job.
>when a 9mm can do the same job.
>9mm
mfw 9mm's are semi-automatic

>>455364636 (OP)
boo fuckin' hoo.

jesus.. for republicans to be esteemed by many as "tough," you guys sure cry a lot.

>>455365729
A half-dead nigger with a knife in each eye and a scimitar through his groin could overpower you. You wouldn't have time to wonder what went wrong as you went in for your bloody dick grab or whatever it is you're envisioning

>>455366278
hit someone in the knee with a hammer and he wont be walking anywhere, letalone be able to defend themselves

I support what the liberals are doing. Fucking crackheads can get guns too easy in this country.

File: 1359743535511.jpg-(11 KB, 700x140, 870ExpressPistolGrip.jpg)

11 KB JPG

I converted my Remington 870 to pistol grip 2 years ago. U MAD FEINSTEIN?!

>>455367092
i laughed pretty hard

>implying more than 3% of this thread have ever even touched a shotgun

>>455368716
>impying more than 3% of 4chan outside of /k/ has ever touched a shotgun

>>455368716
>>455368957
I'll show both of you how much I touch shotguns if you don't shut the fuck up

>>455367092
fucking lol

File: 1359744206244.gif-(1.61 MB, 379x213, chingchongwin.gif)

1.61 MB GIF

>>455367092

>>455367092
oh wow

File: 1359744359830.gif-(828 KB, 200x189, 1358666744393.gif)

828 KB GIF

>>455369105
he's gonna shoot us!

File: 1359744399955.png-(28 KB, 120x120, GangplankSquare.png)

28 KB PNG

>>455369105
What in Davy Jones’ locker did ye just bark at me, ye scurvy bilgerat? I’ll have ye know I be the meanest cutthroat on the seven seas, and I’ve led numerous raids on fishing villages, and raped over 300 wenches. I be trained in hit-and-run pillaging and be the deadliest with a pistol of all the captains on the high seas. Ye be nothing to me but another source o’ swag. I’ll have yer guts for garters and keel haul ye like never been done before, hear me true. You think ye can hide behind your newfangled computing device? Think twice on that, scallywag. As we parley I be contacting my secret network o’ pirates across the sea and yer port is being tracked right now so ye better prepare for the typhoon, weevil. The kind o’ monsoon that’ll wipe ye off the map. You’re sharkbait, fool. I can sail anywhere, in any waters, and can kill ye in o’er seven hundred ways, and that be just with me hook and fist. Not only do I be top o’ the line with a cutlass, but I have an entire pirate fleet at my beck and call and I’ll damned sure use it all to wipe yer arse off o’ the world, ye dog. If only ye had had the foresight to know what devilish wrath your jibe was about to incur, ye might have belayed the comment. But ye couldn’t, ye didn’t, and now ye’ll pay the ultimate toll, you buffoon. I’ll shit fury all over ye and ye’ll drown in the depths o’ it. Ye’re fish food now

>>455369105
you are so edgy dude, i'm quivering in anticipation of what you'll say next

>>455364636 (OP)
If you can't tell which one is more dangerous then you are part of the problem.

Yes they are the same gun, but one has all the tacticool accessories that makes it more efficient in the the killing department.

>>455365089
Ok, its time to educate some retarded fucks from around the world, and maybe some of the fucking stupid ass gun grabber shitheads over here too.

What you're trying to get rid of is fucking assault rifles. An assault weapon could be fucking anything that is used to beat the shit out of someone. My phone, could be an assault weapon. My dick, could be an assault weapon. An assault rifle and an assault weapon are two completely different concepts.

Defend your home with a 9mm semi auto when the crooks bust in and spray you through the walls with an AK 47. Tell me that you want to carry weaker versions of what the criminals have, purely because the criminals will use them to commit crimes. Does that shit even sound fucking sensible? Are you new to this planet? The guy with a bigger gun in a fire fight has the best chance of doing some damage. If someone comes into my house with a 9mm I want an AR 15, I want a 12 gauge, I want something that will give me the edge.

Be as ignorant as you want, but you fucking gun control dumbfucks don't even understand the concepts that you're against, and you don't understand the weapons that you want to put restrictions on. Why in the FUCK are we even bothering with you?!

YES I'M FUCKING MAD! I'M MAD AS HELL GODDAMNIT!

I'm not even a gun owner, so why can't you get the facts straight?

>>455369943
Except how it makes it no more accurate, and fire no more rapidly. And hold no more rounds.

File: 1359744696419.jpg-(5 KB, 160x151, 1111111111111.jpg)

5 KB JPG

>>455370123
>>455370062
>>455369943
>>455369743

>>455370123
Looking at the two guns in the picture. The tactical one will be faster and more accurate(especially if hip firing) with the help of the grip and the loop on the pump. Along with a faster reload with the ammo on the stock.

>>455371253
please be a troll

>>455371253
This has to be a troll. No one should be allowed to be this stupid on the internet.

>>455371556
These are facts. Even if it isn't a great improvement in performance; it is still improving the guns efficiency.

So saying the standard is just the same as the tactical version is just asinine.

>>455372252
I think the point is that they're essentially the exact same weapon minus that. So what's the point here, that people defending their homes should have a low tier gun or else they're criminals?

>>455372252
two possibilities
>Troll
>Never fucking touched a gun.
Hipfire pistol grip shotgun = unable to hit water in the middle of the pacific
Human body doesn't work that way


If troll 6/10

File: 1359745876362.gif-(1.54 MB, 276x225, ohmygod.gif)

1.54 MB GIF

>>455370062

Someone please call me a newfag and tell me this copypasta. Otherwise I am going to kill myself right now because I don't want to live on the same planet as someone this fucking retarded.

1. Assault rifles refer to weapons that are fully automatic, which are already illegal. What they are trying to get rid of are NOT assault rifles.

2. No. "Anything" is not an assault weapon. While it is a bullshit blanket term, believe it or not, they have actually defined that shit.

It's too bad you got so mad, otherwise you wouldn't sound so unbelievably retarded.

>>455372252
The tactical version has a different grip, meaning the weapon has a different feel to it. It doesn't necessarily mean that it will automatically increase the effectiveness of the shooter.

Sigh, turns out people really are less educated than I thought humanly possible.

All of the talk around these gun bans right now is centered around assault weapons, which is a huge misnomer to what the weapons are that they are actually trying to ban. When mentioning these so called "military style assault weapons" which is an egregious term at best, people are looking at weapons like the AR 15, which isn't even an assault rifle. At the end of the day, what it boils down to is trying to ban cosmetic features of weapons that makes them look like scary assault rifles. They don't actually understand the weapons that they're opposing. That's so easy to pick apart, I'm surprised you thought I was wrong. Shame on you.

No, an assault weapon and an assault rifle are two completely different things. If they weren't, then why would we coin the term assault rifle at all to make the distinction? Basic language skills are lacking. Anything that can be considered a weapon, that can assault someone, can be considered an assault weapon.

I can't believe I actually had to explain that.

>>455374224
Was meant for

>>455373298

I'm so tired of the gun debate being full of idiots that I can't even be bothered with it anymore. Just take the damn guns, because people are just too stupid these days.

>>455373317
Well yeah. If the shooter has no idea what they are doing then it wont make a difference. But I would hope that if someone is getting a gun they plan on learning to use it properly. How many retards buy guns anyway...................................

>>455372918
Wow... Just wow.

File: 1359746410527.png-(713 KB, 490x330, mao.png)

713 KB PNG

>>455364636 (OP)
Its all about suggesting the laws you believe may have a chance to get passed.

Eventually the shotgun on top will get outlawed too.

And thats fine with me. Faggots like OP should not have access to guns.

>>455364636 (OP)
Well if they are the exact same, it doesn't matter does it?

>>455374398
Nice rebuttal faggot

Trust me, a lot can be done without a pistol grip. Where i live, we deer hunt with shotguns. This year, my father shot and killed 3 does within 15 seconds. There was also a 16 year old that we hunted with that could accurately unload his gun twice before i could once. Both of these people have no firearm training and were using pump shotguns.

>>455374224
Actually the gun makers named these weapons "assault rifles" to help sell them to the small dick crowd. In the hands of a shooter any rifle is deadly and can be used in a mass shooting. The goal is to remove these weapons from the actual fucks who think of using them in such a manner.

>>455375235
if that's the goal, then they suck at accomplishing it

>>455375235
Good goal.
Poor idea.
Anti-Gun community is still under this impression that criminals will follow the law.

>>455374224
The solution is simple, ban all fully automatic weapons, close the gun show loop hole, ban hollow points, don't sell guns to the mentally unstable and ban mag extenders(max mag 10 rounds) and silencers.

>>455364636 (OP)
ok, let me educate all of you.

guns were invented by the chinese people to keep away natural predators.

NOT to shoot each other.

NOT to shoot people at the theater.

NOT to murder children while they are leraning.

so, you see, if you are not trying to keep away BEARS, storically, you have no use for GUMS.

and while i'm on the subject of educating, why dont you all start to right correctly ? your grammer is awful, with your you're and yours all mixed up.

morons.

>>455375887
except it's not simple because another school gets shot up -- you're not solving anything by banning shit

>>455375887
Full auto already illegal
Gun show loophole is BS
Why? That's retarded
Mag limit is bullshit, what would it solve?

>>455375954
my jim jams are fine. 0/10

>>455375887
Fully automatic weapons have been banned for almost a century. Ban hollow points ,really? Do you even know the difference between fmj's and hollow points? Jesus go back to starbucks.

>>455364636 (OP)
you have to draw the line somewhere anon

>>455365089
No but I use an ak 47 to hog hunt. Who are you to say o shouldnt be able to do that?

I like the way one guy put it. if banning things actually stop the thing from surfacing then why don't we just ban crime

>>455376814
fully automatic weapons are not banned and gun laws were non existant till the 50s. who gives a shit about a gun law? if you have any weapons that end up being banned, you'll still be able to buy/sell/trade them legally. the just cant be produced or imported anymore. why are you idiots acting like this is the first time the government wants to tighten up gun laws?

File: 1359747672920.gif-(1.6 MB, 228x180, 1357665296956.gif)

1.6 MB GIF

>>455375954
>leraning
>gums
>starts bitching about grammar
>mfw

File: 1359747689878.jpg-(611 KB, 1442x1080, z.jpg)

611 KB JPG

>>455375954
What's this? Someone trolling uncle?

>>455376036
No doubt another American school shooting will pop, you reather want the spree killer armed with a pump action and a pistol or a sub machine gun with extended mags, hollow points and silencer?

If any suicidal/reality depraved fucker can just buy an fully automatic gun anytime anywhere with ease making him capable of efficiently killing people and in greater numbers?

>>455376814
read a fucking book!

>>455377614
I take it you don't know what the word transfer means

>>455377614
Yes they are fuck hole. You cannot get a fully automatic weapon with out a class 3 lisense and a tax stamp

>>455377828
ummm I'd rather no shootings at all, I don't give a fuck what weapon they choose to use to shoot up schools.

Lol you fucking libtards think you have it all figured out don't you

File: 1359747899129.jpg-(453 KB, 1440x1080, capture_310_22122012_194703.jpg)

453 KB JPG

>>455378039
>Uncle's face when multichild knifeslaying sprees are much more common in urban China, where guns are ultraregulated.

>>455377614
This is why the pro-gun community will win on the AWB.
This is a demonstration of a lack of knowledge of current, and historic gun regulations, here and abroad.

>>455364636 (OP)
>>455364636 (OP)
ban both guns

File: 1359747970004.jpg-(763 KB, 2048x1152, IMAG1126.jpg)

763 KB JPG

If you have to bitch and complain about people owning what ever gun they want... Then you are a major fucking French faggot liberal who sucks dicks every fucking day.

>pic related. Muh Freedoms

>>455378383
Yes, the stereotypical butt fingering dip shit libtard

>>455377869
>Oh no, this guy clearly knows more than me about the topic I'm against! Damage control time...

File: 1359748013645.jpg-(11 KB, 346x177, cod4_weapons_optional_grip[1].jpg)

11 KB JPG

>>455371842
No no, grips in CoD make shotties WAY more deadly. Hes got us folks; it's all over.

Well the reasonable thing to do would be to acknowledge our mistakes in the legislation and ensure that stupid shit like this doesn't happen. This is why we even bother having a minority party in the first place, so that they can point these things out. Of course, that would require reasoning on our congressmen's part.

>>455378039
More efficient guns for errbody means more efficient killing spree.

There is something fundamentally wrong in your society. But you fucks still can safe lives by not selling so powerful weapons.

EVEN A FUCKING ANTI TANK LAUNCHER SHOULD BE LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE 2ND AMENDMENT, no need for tsa when everybody have excess to stingers.

>>455377925
so you're saying that something is banned if you need to get a permit for it and pay q tax stamp? that's what banned means now huh? so since marijuana is banned in my state, you're telling me i can legally acquire some as long as i go through the proper channels? have a seat.

>>455378039
These people are fucking psychotic, and killing people is already illegal. If they already plan to kill many people, and top off by an hero, what makes you think they'll follow gun laws, and have any qualms about using an illegal firearm

>>455365390
the point is the bottom one is illegal just because it's scarylooking

>>455364636 (OP)
if they are EXACT the same, why would you care?

File: 1359748185497.jpg-(1.34 MB, 3264x1840, IMAG0092.jpg)

1.34 MB JPG

>>455378753
It might as well be banned buddy.
> pic related muh freedoms

>>455378617
same team on this one, but this argument isn't even a Liberal/Conservative one at this point.
I'm Liberal on most things, and most of my liberal friends are pro-gun.
It's a fact v. fear debate. And the overwhelming majority of fact lies on the side of the pro-gun side.

>>455379006
because if i want a pistol grip why shouldnt i be allowed to do so?

>>455366641
you'd better have some range on your hammer if you're using it to defend yourself by hitting criminals in the knee
or go head -> knee -> groin
you want to break him, not give him a bruise

>>455379205
I don't side with either political entity. You are completely right though

>>455378753
A) Look up how fucking hard it is to get that level 3 FFL, Then the price of the tax stamp, and come back
(Similar to the way the british taxed the fuck out of the scottish on their whiskey in the late 1700s to the point that they couldn't afford to legally produce whiskey, which led to bootlegging, and eventually the development of scotch)
B) Weed=Illegal people still get weed, why are you under the impression they couldn't get guns.

File: 1359748474382.jpg-(1.12 MB, 1840x3264, IMAG0071.jpg)

1.12 MB JPG

Here's a little bit more freedoms

>>455368716
I have a nice as fuck shotgun
I should go shooting with it more often, but I'm a pussy bitch and it hurts my shoulder
so I go rifle and pistol shooting and I'm a hell of a lot better at those

>>455370062
becuase crooks bust in people's houses armed with AK-47s and RPGs every day.