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I dare you to find a flaw in this movie.
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obvious troll is obvious
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>>405506149
what movie is it?
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>>405506149

Pacing.
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Aliens existed prior to 2093... (Alien vs. Predator)
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>>405506262

stargate sg-1
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>>405506449
not battlestar galactica?
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>>405506449
oh cool. he's in prometheus too
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>>405506149

There's a flaw in hat picture... WHY ARE THE CONTINENTS THE WAY THEY ARE NOW. That was supposed to be earth millions of years ago.
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>>405506149
So, near the end when she was lowering the 'broken' android off the wrecked alien craft by rope, then rappelled down herself, it left me wondering how the hell she got up there in the first place. Don't look to hard there are other more obvious flaws, but I LOVED THIS MOVIE. I may actually pay to see it in a theater.
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>>405506353

>implying alien vs predator is canon

also, the movie is a pile of shit
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>>405506149
Prometheus
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hey lets go to this planet and find answers.hey we didnt find any answers everyones dead except me end movie
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>>405506149
faster than speed of light travel...
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You have got to be joking, the entire movie is a flaw, the script is horrible, you don't care about anyone, there are plot holes everywhere, and everyone acts like a retard.

I would call this "the phantom menace" or the "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull" of the Alien series.
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>>405506353
you're right, go to the second Predator movie (with Danny Glover) when inside the space ship.......there's fucking xeno skulls in there.
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>>405506607
no, that was suppose to be Earth about 2,000 years ago
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well see, when he had the "black substance" that come out of those glass bottle things, he touched the bottle of I'm assuming is what wine, with the finger he put the "black substance" on, and still puts it in the "wine" and he still gets sick from it....flaw
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Guy Pearce as an old guy...
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>>405506149
Also in the beginning when they were all in the briefing room and being told why they were there... stretches the imagination that they flew in cold sleep for years to get there and didn't even know the purpose of the visit. Also, the briefing room was HUGE, even for a ship the size of the Prometheus.
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I think Wayland is a pretty cool guy, he kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>405506607

When they first find the dead engineer and use the carbon dating tool on it, they say it died 2000 years ago. So the ship is only 2000 years old dumb shit.
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The Biologist was all "c'mere cutie" to that alien-spawn or whatever. At least it looked cool when it killed him.

Movie was predictable. Didn't care about the characters.
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>>405506149
>Fundamental: Sending humans to explore shit.
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That movie was horrible.

It's fucking copy pasta of Alien.

I know it's a prequel but it can't be that hard to come up with something different. It doesn't have to exactly be Alien.
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>>405506886

That wasn't a briefing room it was a gymnasium you fucking retard. Look at the treadmills and basketball net in the background. And after 2 years of cryosleep they were being rebriefed for fucks sake.
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>>405506659

Oh yeah. Totally ruined the movie. And every Star Wars movie. And Star Trek. And hundreds of others.


>>405506607
It wasn't from millions of years ago. Something happened roughly 2000 years before the movie to make the Engineers decide to destroy humanity. So they were obviously keeping an eye on us.
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The crew acted like a bunch of kids straight out of college. They had knowledge of their subjects, but absolutely no common sense and showed a clear lack of training. Also, I couldn't connect with any of them and didn't care when they died. Two or three would die, and then there's three more assholes who might as well be walk-on parts to replace them, each of whom I care even less about.

Yes, everyone expected David to be like Ash, but Christ, could Ridley have been any more heavy-handed with it? Good performance from Fassbender, but his character was wasted.

The movie looked amazing, but it was lacking everywhere else.
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>>405507000
Trips. Auto-truth
Any1 else think that in the movie, the explanation makes one of these aliens jesus. since the carbon thing said 2k years old...
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Prometheus was fuck horrible. Do not pay to see it. Wait until its on DVD and Blu-Ray and pirate that shit.
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>>405506803

Get out christfag

>Implying humans came into being 200 years ago ISHYGDDT.
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>>405507075
>Zonnepoort_tiwanaku.jpg
>Zonnepoort
> duchfagg detected
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>>405506149
>I dare you to find a flaw in this movie.

Just cut-and-paste any generic complaint used about the Guilty Crown anime here and use "Prometheus" as the name.
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>>405506284

This. Pacing.

Also this: The biologist trying to play with the alien snake thing. No scientist would try to directly interact with an unknown alien snake-like species, especially when cut off from his mother ship inside a strange alien facility, meaning no help is available if anything bad happened.
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Who else wants to get fucked by the engineers?
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Alien baby abortion anyone?
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Big guy gets his chest busted outside his ship. In Alien he is sitting in the cockpit.
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Prometheus = Alien + The Thing
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>>405507290
Did you even watch the movie ?
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>>405506886

The " briefing room " was a gymnasium. Must have not been paying very much attention.
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Dumbest. Crew. Ever.
>>405507306 beat me to it.

That said, it's still better than Ressurection.
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>>405507240

Yeah, I'm thinking that's what Ridley Scott said it was in an interview. Jesus was an Engineer, and we killed him. That was the last straw for them.
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>>405507260
you better be a troll
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>>405506886
AVP is NOT canon, and has been stated
>>405506607
Yep, suppose to be 2000 years, not millions
>>405506353
People go on long missions now for lots of money. Top secret is perfectly legit if paid well, or have high interest. Also, pretty sure it was a cargo hold they were all in. And even if not, Weyland is a richfag...so yeah
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>>405506149
Seriously expect me to believe they find a 2000 year old skull in a space helmet, in an OXYGEN atmosphere, and are able to jump start it by neural stimulation to the brain and it actually opens it's eyes. Yeah, right, even if they tried to covered it up by saying it was 'remarkably well preserved'.
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We are going to a place in search of a race of living creatures that we know nothing about, and we secretly have the CEO of Weyland Corp in tow, AND WE HAVE NO MILITARY BACKUP AS A FAILSAFE
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If it's a prequel to Alien, then why is the engineer not in his seat in the ring ship when the xeno pops out of his chest at the end, like he is supposed to be when they find him dead in Alien?
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>>405506607


they are advanced, why wouldnt an advanced race make their model shift and predict how the earth would look now?
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mmm yeah.
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>>405507409

It wasn't the same guy, wasn't the same planet.
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Let's have a movie about aliens, oh wait the movie is about how aliens want to destroy the human race? I've never heard of that before
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In the daughters quick heal chamber, it is shown to be for males only. Why would she build a male only healing pod if she is female?
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>>405507747

You do realize it was a movie, right? Do you understand the definition of sci-fi? Go look up the word "fiction" for me.
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>>405506149

EVERYTHING!
So disappointed by this film
>Everyone is an idiot
>Geoligist "loves rocks" but doesn't pick up a single one on a new alien planet
> "Lets take our helmets off" - GREAT FUCKING IDEA!
>Alien appears at the end... whatthefuckisthat.jpg
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THIS
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>>405507703
>People go on long missions now for lots of money. Top secret is perfectly legit if paid well, or have high interest. Also, pretty sure it was a cargo hold they were all in. And even if not, Weyland is a richfag...so yeah

You are fucking retarded. Who would fund a multi trillion dollar mission and hire a bunch of low life morons with zero skills? The truth is, the cream of the crop would have been vetted hardcore before being sent out into space. The movie had zero logic.
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So bad. It was just glorified goo without any decent stories, the plot was OH BOY HISTORY, RANDOM PLANET, WEIRD ALIEN GOO LOL, OH BOY PEOPLE BE DYING, PREGNANCY BE EVERYWHERE, LOL SUPAH HUMMUN KIL WEK HUMIES the end, oh and Alien btw
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>>405506739
>I would call this "the phantom menace" or the "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull" of the Alien series.

You have obviously not seen Alien Resurrection or any of the AvP movies.

Aliens > Alien > Prometheus > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > AvP shit
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>>405507902

Are you sure?
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Flaw was the trailer showed basically the whole movie... WTF hollywood your trailers are basically spoilers

Dont pay to see it just watch the trailer you'll see all the important parts.
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>>405507987
Even better question: Why was that even introduced if it was so easily circumvented?
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>>405507987

It's for Weyland
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>>405508013
What am i looking at?
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>>405507902

This...the planet in Alien and Aliens was LV-426. The planet they landed on in Prometheus was LV-223. I paid attention when they were on approach.
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Spoilers ahead...

In a time that is very possibly during some of our lifetimes, we send people one a COMMERCIAL spacemission, equip the ship with a BAR FILLED WITH ALCOHOL and send along about 13/17 people who AREN'T TRAINED ASTRONAUTS into space.

Upon arriving the ship just HAPPENS TO LAND next to the structure where the whole ploys takes place it is revealed that MOST OF THE CREW DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE THERE.

It turns out aliens have been making BLACK NIGGERSAUCE on the moon. The niggersauce FOLLOWS NO PATTERN IN IT'S EFFECT ON HUMANS as it appears to INFECT AND SLOWLY KILL ONE MAN, TURN ANOTHER INTO A MONSTERZOMBIE, IMPREGNATE A WOMAN WITH A SQUID AND SIMPLE MELT ANOTHER.

A woman proceeds to ABORT a fetus from her STOMACH and the STAPLING HERSELF TOGETHER. She then proceeds to RUN THE FUCK ABOUT FOR HOURS until a NONSNESICAL SPACEDOUGHNUT COMES ROLLING and crushes the evil hot woman.

everything in caps is a seriouswtfniggerplothole.

Gotta hand it to my countrywoman Noomi though, she was fucking flawless. Overall enjoyed the movie, but perfect? oh please.
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Why send a bunch of humans and not just a few Weyland products if it is a discovery mission?

Also, I think this movie implies that Humans manufactured the Alien species or at least David did.
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Assuming its promethius, which it is then:

- You already know theyre all going to die before the film has even begun.
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>>405508056
I can take most movie plots and say them like that too.
What the fuck is your actual criticism?
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that movie had a beard
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Every android was evil in the Alien series.
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Jesus being an Engineer is dumb. Jesus was killed because he got involved in local politics on the wrong side; he pissed off the Jewish establishment by threatening change, which turned him into the local authorities (Romans) for sedition. Why the fuck would an Engineer get involved in local politics?
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>>405506149
Vickers says to Captain she is half a billion miles away from men she actually wants to have sex with.

Lol at half a billion miles is the distance to Jupiter

NOT ACROSS THE FUCKING GALAXY

Stupid head of operations is stupid
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>>405507393
YEAH wtf man this bitch has an alien fuckin baby and nothing at all is said after just act like never happened
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>>405508195
red arrow, bottom left, i didn't spot it at first either
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>>405508159
It was supposed to clue you in that Weyland was on board. It was completely pointless because the show him in the very next scene. Movie was shit
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>>405508409

Not Bishop.
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http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1
You. Are. Welcome.
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>>405507987

I assumed it was for Weyland.
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>>405508482
the thing it's pointing at, that is
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>>405508531
Okay fine, but all the rest were.

By the way, is Vickers an android or not? She and David look similar.
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Sfx, awesome
Acting, good
Visual very good
Attention grabbing, 11/10
Original story and plot, meh
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I want to see it's alien dick.
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in Alien, they find the 'space jockey' sitting in the chair with his chest blown out. in Prometheus, he gets his chest blown out in the med bay
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He's Ridley Scott. none of you are even old enough to rent it on VHS
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>>405508636
Yeah but what is it pointing at?
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>>405508724

This >>405508202
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>>405508660
A better question is why was Vickers there to begin with. She didn't do anything at all in the movie except be a snarky bitch and get killed because she was too fucking dumb to run perpendicular to the rolling ship
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>>405508189
but she didn't know he was there? or was it her and the robot that knew?
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>>405508780

That is a windows vista/Windows 7 taskbar, complete with icons on the right.
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thank god i wasnt the only one that wanted the enginners dick
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>>405508909

She clearly says why she's there during the scene where she talks to Weyland...
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>>405508301
>Exactly, it's commercial, there doesn't need to be trained astronauts. Who ever pays for it, picks the crew. Considering they found the moon without a hitch, the crew seemed proficient.
>The structures were stated to be all over the planet. Not that rare, apparently
>Should the movie have took time out of the film and explained EXACTLY what the sauce did? Do you actually want to know exactly how the sauce worked?
>She was on high level pain medication. It's also the future, and the surgery was as perfect as possible
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>>405508959
Oooooh shit. Now that you mention it i do see an Internet Explorer icon. Ha!
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>>405508851

Where was the distress signal coming from then?
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>>405508929

They both knew, there's a scene where she asks the android what Weyland said, and he refuses to tell her. She rages.
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Fuck me, creator.
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>>405508374
None of it seemed to coherently string together to make a decent story. It was just context for them to slap a bunch of visual cues and effects onto and call it a movie. It was visually stunning but it fell short in almost every other department.
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The moon they travel to in the film is 35 light years away from earth, one of the crew on the ship states "were half a billion miles away from earth"
That wouldn't get them past out solar system.

Also the ships navigation uses windows 7.

Also when the next alien film picks up after this one, they find one of the architects manning the alien spaceship that crashed, but at the end of prometheus the architect leaves the ship to kill the escaping woman, before getting eaten by the xenomorph of course.
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anyone got link for that ?
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>>405508909
this pisses me off in so many movies
why the fuck would anyone run longways away from something tall, thin and falling
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>>405509041
She didn't know he was there
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>>405509348
it's like running from a person with a gun in a straight line.
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>>405509348
She was Mr.Waylands daughter.

Still though, they could have at least shown her getting fucked by that nigger.
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>>405509391

Yes she did. She says something along the lines of "You think I'm gonna sit in board meetings for 2 years while you're off chasing aliens" or some shit.

How about you watch the fucking movie.
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>>405509391

Yes she did, she asks the android what he had to say.
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>>405509194

Prometheus took place on LV223(or something). Alien and Aliens took place on LV426. Two completely different planets.
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>>405509464
except the person can turn at will
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WHERE DID THEY GET THE LADDER?

I NEVER SAW THEM BRING IN A LATTER?

DID YOU SEE THEM CARRYING A LADDER?

The only mystery.
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>>405508013
lol... awesome windows 7 still in action in the super future amazing! nice find.
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>>405509519
Heh, her character still did nothing for the plot
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the fact that the space jockey who was the pilot of the ship go out to find the main character and got killed, but in aliens 1 on the alien ship was found dead while on the pilot seat of the ship
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>>405506353

The xenomorph at the end of the movie is NOT the same as the xenomorphs in Alien.

What we saw wasn't the first Alien, but rather another form of a similar species. It explains HOW the aliens were originally formed, but doesn't explicitly show the xenomorph being formed.
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>>405509629

I thought that! Figured it must be a telescoping ladder.
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Big things have small beginnings.
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>>405506149
I've just come back from watching this film and this thread is at the top of the page.
COINCIDENCES.
Like another anon said; pacing, some elements of the plot just aren't explained very well, and towards the end shit just gets too hectic.
Also, David > the rest.
Still a good film, but definitely has flaws.
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>>405507306

Botanist. He deals with plants.
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>>405507987

"For males only" was never stated by the medical pod, however it did say it was pre calibrated for males. The med-pod was most likely there strictly for Wayland.

Pay more attention, huh pal?
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>>405509864
What about it was good?
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The facehugger is a fucking squid.
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>>405509629
you could clearly see it was a hi-tech ladder that could be folded into the size of a small tube
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>>405506607

2000 years ago. Roughly.
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what's the name of this moive?
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Pissed me off that they kept being fucking assholes to David, shit was so fucked up and annoying. When humans are capable of creating artificial life, they are going to cherish it. Look at it like it is beautiful, a miraculous creation.

We aren't gonna make androids and be like: 'sup nerd do my homework you soul-les cunt.'

So annoying.
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Lame attempts at humor

Some of the crew members were morons, and why were they not thoroughly interviewed and briefed on the mission before going?

Shaw is an idiot for continuing to chase after the ancient people at the ending instead of returning to Earth

Bad pacing / not enough action
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>>405509953
Which is the same thing as saying for males only.
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>>405506353

AVP isn't cannon. AVP is to Alien what Justice League is to Batman: Non-existant.
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>>405509768

OMG that means that bitch crash landed on LV426 and David set a distress signal. She was in that suit or was taken over by native a little too late. That stupid bitch started everything.
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>>405510112

Until you are inches away from discovering the meaning of our humanity you can't really question Shaw's decision...
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Star systems being described as "Galaxies" annoys me to no end.
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the guy that David infected
that was fucking lame.
they could have done so much more with him.
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>>405510112

If all those ships had the bio weapon on board, Shaw was smart in going after the Engineers and not returning to earth.
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>>405506659
FTL travel isn't something far fetched in the realm of science fiction. Mass Effect. Star Wars. Star Trek
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>>405506659

Faster-than-light travel is very possible; It just requires a retarded volume of energy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive for more info.
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>>405510003
IT WAS A SOUND AND WELL STRUCTURED LADDER! IT WAS BUILD VERY WELL OUT OF SPACE WOOD AND IN ONE LARGE PIECE.

The only mystery.
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>>405510096

You seriously assume that people are just going to automatically treat them like people? Even after seeing how people treat other people and pets? You're fucking retarded.
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knobs and a cyclic
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RED LETTER MEDIA SAID IN HALF IN THE BAG THAT IT SUCKS SO FUCK YOU I'M NOT GONNA WATCH IT
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Remember the part with the egg removal? How would the egg have been in the abdominal area rather than the womb?
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>>405510096
Yeah, the guy's hate for androids was completely pointless same with everything else about the male archaeologist. The guy was fucking retarded. They were on the planet for one day and visited only one site and he has a breakdown and starts crying because he took that to mean that all of the engineers were dead... pussy. Then, they are on an alien planet in contact with alien bodies and he gets sick and tries to hide it? I had zero sympathy for him when he died. Dumb fuck had it coming
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So they found this invitation all over earth to the creators homeworld. They get there and it's suddenly not their homeworld but a millitary site.

Wtf?
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>>405510292
Women drivers fuck up everything... nice job.

My though it it is obvious that the engineers ship all suck at flying if they keep crashing.
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I like all you shits constantly blabbing about this 'half a billion miles isnt even past Jupiter derp!"

We all saw neil degrasse tyson's tweet you shit lords. You aren't special.
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the fact that the engines where still on faced to go faster when they arrived at destination

in space travel, you fire up the engines at the start, get up to speed, shut engines down to preserve power/fuel and on near arriving you turn your engines/the whole ship 180° and trust the same amount of time you took to get up to speed to stop moving again

basically, even if they burned all energy or fuel to get there the fuck as fast as possible, they should have turned there engines around as soon as they were 50% of the trip, otherwise they would just keep going forward once they arrived and shoot past there target with no way of slowing down

makes.no.sense
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>>405510415
the fuck are you talking about.

THEY HAVE FUCKING GALACTIC SPACESHIPS AND TIME CAPSULES, FUCKING ANDROIDS AND HOLOGRAMS

why cant they have a tube that can unfold itself into a ladder?
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>>405507154

Nope. First they heard of it. Guessing it was kept under wraps/need-to-know. These guys were probably on Weyland's payroll, and were fine getting a hefty check to sleep for a few years and THEN find out.
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Quentin Tarantino should have directed this movie. Starring Bruce Willis, John Travolta, Uma Therman, and Sameul Jackson.
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>>405507409

2 different planets. lv332 (prometheus) and lv426 (alien/aliens)
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How did spok tell the scotty in the past the method he discovered for warp drive if scotty hadn't discovered it yet?
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i loved this movie, and im a huge fan of the alien series, but here is the flaw that bugs me; the Engineer died in the end of the movie, which means he left the cockpit, but in the beginning of Alien, the Engineer is still in the cockpit.
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>>405510701

Not an invitation - To be fair, the markings were probably similar to a stamp of ownership; "We made you fuckers!"; We could, in theory, just be a species who was seeded on earth specifically to test the Xenomorph weapon they concocted - Literally a "test this on life outside of, and very far from, our homeworld."-type scenario.
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>>405511063

Not the same ship.
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>>405508013
looks like in the future, we'll still be using windows 7.
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i liked it
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>>405510427
Oh don't be an artsy pussy trying to metaphorically point out human flaws by adding a being that is less than human. I can appreciate that human beings are stupid cunts, but you are still missing the point.

Scientists can appreciate scientists, other people that have respect for their craft or field or work. While lots of ignorant motherfuckers may say silly shit to androids, scientists wouldn't. As I stated, scientists would have been respectful of artificial life.

'LOL WE MADE YOU BECAUSE WE COULD LOL DOESN'T SEE THE DIRECT CONNECTION TO HIS OWN CREATORS LOL.' What kinda scientist was he? Or the old man? 'MY CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT IS IN THIS ANDROID BUT HE IS UNAPPRECIATIVE AND HAS NO SOUL HAHA WHAT A RETARD.' Seriously more over-the-top display of human ignorance than Avatar. Stupid.
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>>405510980
cant tell if misspelling is trolling, typo, or stupid
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Fuck you all, Idris Elba and Fassbender made this movie awesome.

Fuck, Elba saved Ghost Rider on his own.
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>>405510169

It's the same as saying it's capable of performing bypass surgery for females had it been CALIBRATED.
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How about, how did David know the codes to open all of the doors?
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>>405511309

He was drunk and angry. Mystery solved.
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You are trolling, right?

That was one of the worst movies I ever saw. Its plot is basically the same as alien's, and the character behavior is god damn unrealistic. It's the "we want the CoD audience" the movie.

Fuck you, viral marketeer. Please people, stop responding to this thread.
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>>405510831

No. They used space brakes.
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>>405507409

Different planet. Different ship. Different alien. Different engineer. Different circumstances. NOT THE SAME.
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>>405511429

Did you not see him trying multiple combinations?
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Jesus Christ.
>Engineer ship crashed in Prometheus
>Different fucking ship crashed on different planet in Alien
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>>405506607
it said they were there 2000 years ago, not millions.
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the site was a biologic testing site and factory, the symbols probably mean "this is where your blueprint rolled off the factory lines

ether that or it makes no fucking sense
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>>405511063
Big fan then u know lv426 = different from lv 223?
>>405511147
I thought... The first species to find us is evolved enough for us to test the virus on. So who ever gets here first gets the reward of being Guinea pigs.
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>>405511357
But it wasn't, therefore it could only perform surgery on males... hence, males only. Besides, what is the point of have a super expensive medical pod if it can't perform operations on both men and women. The physiology between the two isn't that different.
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>>405511147
touché
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do I have trips?
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>>405507747
It's possible, judging by how he seemed to be attacked/collapsed prior to the decapitation, that he was infected with the goop.

That could very well preserve/regenerate the corpse.
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>>405510831

Don't need to turn off the engines if you're running on a sustained fusion reactor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER#Objectives

Theoretically, if you can create a plasma reactor that's hot enough, it will self-sustain and work like a star, slowly burning off helium, then hydrogen, then oxygen, etc. Lighter elements get burned off and turned into heavier elements, which then get recycled during the reaction and turned into heavier fusion-able elements.

A production-level fusion reactor would be able to run for several thousand years without needing to ever be turned off, and it would only create more and more energy as it got closer to it's end-of-life/burnout (as heavier elements create more energy than lighter elements do).
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>>405511483

THE FUCK YOU TALKING BOUT BITCH

THIS IS NONSENSE
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>>405508345

The problem with your theory is that not everyone dies in the movie.

Watch the fucking movie before you start discussing it.
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>>405511556
Yes, like two or three. Statistically impossible that he was able to solve each one in two or three tries again and again.
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>niggers don't understand Prometheus isn't a prequel to alien
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If David is a robot Y was he dyeing his hair???
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>>405511913

No, dammit. It was space brakes. The pedal on the left. Didn't you see him stepping on it to stop the ship?
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that ladder the android used by the big door came from where? pulled it out his ass? is he inspector gadget?
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>>405511309

>implying that there are no asshole scientists with their own beliefs and agendas

You really haven't been out in the world yet, have you?
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>>405512076

Cuz he wants to be like humans.
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>>405511790
ummm women have tits bro.
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>>405511993
All but one person died and she wasn't exactly in tip top shape
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>>405509056
Actually yeah. I enjoyed the movie overall, but the one thing that REALLY bugged me was that the alien goo followed no logic whatsoever.

In past Aliens films, we understood that Egg->Facehugger->Chestburster->Xenomorph. It was exotic and alien but that's good, and it felt "real" because it was internally consistent.

In Promethius the black goo was like Red Kryptonite. Will it turn you into a ragezombie? Maybe it'll slowly kill you from the inside. Maybe it'll spawn a squidbaby in your belly, but ONLY if it hitches a ride on some semen first. Seriously by the end of the movie I wouldn't be surprised if it started causing people to turn into lions or grow a second head or start pooping frosted cupcakes.
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DAVID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wul0rhx8Mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wul0rhx8Mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wul0rhx8Mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wul0rhx8Mg
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>>405512076

He wanted to be the character in the movie he watched over and over again for 2 years.

Seriously, is everyone in this thread retarded? David quoted the movie like 8 times...
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>>405512190
He was carrying it the entire time.
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>>405506149
Okay, i'm taking the bait here.

>>Don't touch that thing: The Movie
Flaws

>>Its like breathable air, so I take my helmet off.
No you don't; that's because you don't know what's exactly in that air.

>>Decontaminate that head
How can you decontaminate something your computer's not calibrated to even recognize?

>>"Death Chowder, Life Chowder".

And I'm already annoyed enough to stop here...
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>>405507987
its for her father, weyland. the whole point of the mission was that weyland wanted to find the creators of man, and use their knowledge to prolong his life. the pod was for him, to keep him alive.
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What people are forgetting is that you have to have some measure of suspension of disbelief when watching a science fiction movie. It's the future, and so certain things are going to seem implausible to us but you have to assume that it's something we've figured out at that point in the timeline.

I do agree that that botanist or whatever was a fucking retard for trying to touch that alien worm, though. Why would he think that was a good idea? Especially when moments before he was freaking out about life forms being detected near him. All of a sudden he wants to stick his finger in its mouth?
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My only problem with this movie is the fucking cat. That cat is fucking retarded why didn't she just leave the fucking thing god damnit!
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>>405511913

and when you arrive at your destination, you are going amazingly fast and will never have enough retroburn to stop and just shoot straight past your target

play more kerbal space program doche
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>>405512417

I agree with the suspension statement. Simpler put: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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>>405510415
Wayland Corp. shops at Amazon. $70.00 bucks.
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>>405512336
In order for the whole surgical pod thing to have actually been an effective plot point, they should have had Dr. Shaw note that it was set for males only when she first saw it. Introducing that fact later on was useless since Weyland was in the next fucking scene getting a foot massage
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>>405512267

Black goo = ultimate biological weapon. It turns any life form into a supercharged-parasite laying machine. Those snake things were what happened to the worms that crawled into the black goo.
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>>405511913
i think his point was "how would they then stop"? the energy source has nothing to do with physics. in any event, they would've had to turn the ship around or have been able to create the same force in the opposite direction for the same amount of time it took them to attain their best speed at the halfway point of their journey in order to have been able to stop.
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>>405512058
Have you seen the movie? It kind of is...
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>>405512417
Like how they completely and openly dismissed evolution? When the biologists asked Dr. Shaw about it her only response was "because I choose to believe it". WTF

This goes way beyond suspension of belief
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That movie was horrible, and if you liked it you're either 12 or you should feel bad.

So after a years-long journey, you arive at an alien planet, lightyears away from Earth, and then you're briefed on the mission? Wouldn't they get briefed BEFORE GOING TO FUCK KNOWS WHERE?! Holy fucking christ, this made the movie completely retarded, not to mention how it just generally sucks.
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Human DNA has 3 billion base pairs. In the movie there is a graph with about 20 data points that shows that the engineer and human DNA "match."

DNA does not "match" even among humans, unless the humans are identical twins. Even if the "match" is supposed to be less strict than that, human DNA will produce a human being, not engineers.

And how was the engineer's DNA seeded on the Earth? It was shredded into strands of about 5 base pairs long and scattered into a river in the Arctic. Completely useless for replicating an individual, let alone a species.

Or was the scattering event supposed to occur before any life existed on Earth? Then where does the DNA of all the other life come from?

In practical terms, the likelihood of life arising independently and using DNA at all is negligible. If that is what they meant by a match, it would have been easy to say so. "This being has DNA!", instead of "This being's DNA matches human DNA!".

The science was just dumbed down to an absurd and insulting degree.
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>>405512417

This. From freaking out to "Aww, what a pretty space snake; let me play with you even though you are an alien life form that I've never seen before and I have no idea if you act like snakes I've seen on earth, and if something bad did happen, there is a space storm preventing any assistance from the mother ship from reaching me, so I will be totally fucked."
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>>405508189
Negative. It was Vickers. She didn't know he was aboard.
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>>405512454

Are you not aware of how an FTL drive functions? You can't "shoot past" your target, because once you break your space-time bubble, you come to dead stop (you're essentially "reinserting" yourself into natural space-time again).

While outside of natural space-time, inertia (and other laws of physics) have no real meaning to you... since you can do anything you god damn please.

So, no. You won't go shooting past your target, because you're literally able to maneuver within nanometers of your target without any repercussions. It's only once you re-enter natural space-time that you need to worry about being too close to your objective.
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>>405512954

It was 2 years long. Your argument is now invalid.
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>>405512870

Space brakes. Step on the pedal, the ship stops. What's so hard?
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>>405512584
it's...beautiful.
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>>405512954
I like how their ridiculous space suits had helmets that not only fogged up, but were made out of glass and the material for the rest of the suit could be torn by a broken bone. The entire movie was fucked
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>>405512870

See my post above on the topic.
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XD

The Aliens the engineers created is a fucking HUGE flaw.

Normal way it goes is in original alien movies.
>Alien mother lays eggs
>Eggs are facehuggers that lay eggs inside host.
>Host pops out Alien of some sort based of genetic material.

Way this movie went about it was.
>Genetically engendered face hungers lay eggs in host. (One that looks like a snake)
>Giant ass face huger pops out of host (Fucking huge version of original from the look of it)
>Giant ass face huger lays eggs in new host.
>Alien Pops out of new host.

WHAT THE FUCK

They did this of course to make things interesting for the audience and make it seem like OH YA, WE'RE MAKING ANOTHER MOVIE Fucking bullshit to a alien fan.
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>>405512921
It takes place in the same universe before alien but its not a prequel directly to it
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Main flaw: as soon as I saw the mask the humanoid guys were wearing, I couldnt think of anything else but the Sandman comics.
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>>405512048

He spent 2 years on the ship studying ancient proto-Indo-European, Sumerian, etc., presumably to determine the Engineers' language; one would think he would have also studied the orthography - the basis for the written form of all those languages too.
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It's shorter than Diablo 3.
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>>405511790
You're beyond help my friend. The thought of extremely rare and sophisticated medical equipment existing on a rich old man's ship being previously configured to assit him specifically to aid in the event of an emergency where minutes or hours of hardware calibration could mean the difference between life & death must be too hard to grasp.

Sorry for your loss.
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>>405513124
Yes... yes she did. She came because he was on board.
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>>405513470
You obviously know and understand English, what is my email pw? Oh, you don't know it? Maybe its because knowledge of a language doesn't have shit to do with knowing someone's password
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It was ok, but not very memorable. There was hardly any character build-up. They gave Idris Elba an American accent when they didn't need to, simple to perpetuate the notion that Americans are the only people who sacrifice themselves for the good of humanity. The reason the Engineer killed himself during the introduction to the movie was not explained. Not enough jumpy moments compared to the amount of times they tried to build suspense.
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>>405512584

This. I get all my space ladders at Amazon.com.
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So far I have not seen one good argument that there are plot holes in this movie.

There were 2 unnessisary things imho;
1. Charlize Theron's character felt forced. Could have had her not be whats-his-face's daughter and would have been fine. (Also, running in a straight line lawl)

2. The biologist who is freaked out starts poking the face-hugger. GG bro.

Besides that, I enjoyed the movie immensely. I didn't see any major plot holes in it. Most everything people are bringing up in this thread are from either people who didn't watch Alien or people who didn't understand what was going on.
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>>405513428
There's a xenomorph in the movie. Doesn't that kind of make it a prequel?
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>>405512762
True
>>405513124
U sir are an idiot...
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>>405513332
>(One that looks like a snake)
not arguing your point but i do remember in Alien when the xeno was moving through a conduit that was WAY too small for its [humanoid] body.

wasn't there something about the xeno that was reptillian? i can't remember exactly.
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>>405513845

Are you fucking retarded? That was "Prometheus" creating human life. God you're fucking dumb.
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>>405509629
>>405509629
the ladder was actually david's dick. It shoots out of his crotch and telescopes anywhere from 6-12 feet. and when he's done, he can neatly tuck it back into his pants. the codename for this fancy peice of equipment is P.A.C.K.A.G.E
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>>405513876
Then read the fucking thread you idiot. The movie is full of holes, and is completely unrealistic.
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>>405513570
Seriously? Then how do you explain an emergency surgeon being able to operate on both male and female patients without having to spend hours mentally switching his knowledge of male physiology to female before each operation? You are an idiot.
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>>405513831
Assuming there was a password - who's to say he didn't just type the equivalent of "open door" or some such?
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>>405512948
the fucking BIOLOGIST used the term Darwinism.

Any real scientist, let alone biologist, that heard him say that would have thrown him out the airlock.
That shit is for retards like Kent Hovind, Ben Stein and co. I wasn't surprised in the least that he acted full retard, he was probably a creationist in disguise.
>>405513332
I kinda inferred that they were the all the prototype xenomorphs they had made over the years.
However your complaint is still legitimate simply because of the key word 'infer'. None of it is explained and narrative causality is lost by the internal inconsistencies mentioned here
>>405512267
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>>405513845

That's a good point. Why did the engineer at the beginning kill himself? Was that ship flying away supposed to contain early humans?
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>>405514020

The Xeno (Alien) changes depending upon what host it pops out of; thus the dog-like Alien in Alien 3 (*coughlamefuckingmoviecough*).
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IT WASN'T THE SAME PLANET nor the same crashed horseshoe ship .

In Alien, there were no pyramids; the atmosphere was far more extreme; there was no wreckage of the Prometheus.

BTW: The movie was visually pleasing, but the script was a whole lotta suckage.

captcha: Artistst stars
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>>405513876
You are an idiot
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I was under the impression that the goo was constantly evolving to form the best possible weapon for the host's species; it started as goo (when they entered the chamber). Then, we see it changed into worms (on it's own), then a larger worm (still on it's own) and then into the snake/vagina thing.

When ingested, it appears to also cause some kind of mutation (the engineer at the beginning, the head, the 2 crew members and whats-her-name's baby) that causes rapid mutation.

The xenomorph at the end may be the best weapon possible from humanoid DNA... though, it doesn't explain the dog-xeno from Alien3 still looking like a human-based xeno.
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>>405514351

Why did Engineer kill himself at beginning? Some theories:

1. That's how they seed new planets. Maybe he's a sacrifice? The way he was dressed suggests as much; he certainly wasn't dressed for an away mission.

2. He was going to have a bath and some coffee but grabbed decaf instead. His body ran out of caffeine and fell apart.
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>>405506149

They send about under 20 people on a big fucking ship to an undiscovered planet to find aliens or their creators and don't send and a small army, they're retards.
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>>405514331
If that is all it takes, then what was the point of having a lock in the first place if any idiot can walk up and open it?
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>>405507542
Not by much !!!!
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I was not impressed. Story line too predictable.
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>>405514689

Immediately after dying it shows his DNA break up in the water, therefore seeding the new planet and creating human life...
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Oh ya, and another.

Lands on Alien planet, lets set our ship down right there. Wow, we just happened to find the Alien base. Oh look, we just happened to find the only Engineer alive on this planet.

What would have really happened is they would have surveyed the entire planet for any other bases or strange structures we happened to find, and before the survey team when in, they would have sent in a droid or land roving droid of some sort. No one survey team walks into a Alien super structure like that and just browses around.

Oh ya, and if I give the Engeneers as much credit as I like to think, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE JUST ABANDONED THE BASE THEY WERE ON. What the fuck, you leave years, possibly decades of valuable scientific research behind on a base that costed possibly BILLIONS/TRILLIONS to run, and even if they don't have a money based economy, that is still total bullshit that they just left it behind. And I say they left it behind because they left men their and ships. They didn't even finnish terraforming the planet. I'M CALLING BULLSHIT
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>>405506149
Albino skinhead space vikings created a black virus that turns people into down syndrome super mosh-pit hobo's and David the son of the god of the angels infects members of the crew so that they can have sex and then a man surgery robot cuts out the alien space tumor and then Moriarty is found to be alive after they thought that he was dead and then they wake up one of the albino space vikings who is really mad because David the Jewish robot Eunuch talks to him in, space viking everyone dies the women that aborted her alien baby saves her after the space viking changes the Jewish eunuch Mormon robot and then her baby, we shall,, call him Joseph savesw his mommy and hentai rapes/eats the albino skinhead space viking and then the boot leg cut-off there so I don't know what happens after that...
The one thing is that there are no thermos and lunch boxes for this movie you can't have space AIDS captain crunch themed packaging and there is no game for this it is only suck because they failed to give us irrelevant mass media and marketing so that when ever we leave the house we are raped through the eyes, ears and when we have to talk about it the mouth...
Also It wasn't free and it did not come with a better life or hookers to suck my penis or a large reserve of morphine sulfate or at least some booze...
And at some level there were probably Chinese people and immigrants from Israel involved in the financial support of this "Movie" so that takes it down a couple notches as well...
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>>405512762
This. It's really not hard to understand
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What did David say to the engineer exactly? Why did the engineer smile at him?
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>>405508059
Switch Alien and Aliens and you might have something.

>Implying the thriller action of James Cameron's Aliens is better than the slow, anxious fear of Ridley Scott's Alien.

I don't blame you though anon, they're both excellent, so you can be forgiven for such a mistake.
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>>405512418

Lol'd so hard. Watched Alien and Aliens right after Prometheus.
Just remember that cat is dead irl now.
RIP kitty.
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>>405514152
I did read it and none of the 'plot holes' really are there.

To everyone saying that this movie is not realistic... it's called science FICTION. Most of this stuff is implied and not spelled out because it doesn't need to be. Just because they don't go over all the protocols and technology doesn't mean that it's an awful movie. Suspension of disbelief, do you have it?
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>>405513907
>>405513907
Nope. It takes place in the same universe so that's a given. Think of a prequel in the way the thing was, the sequel to Prometheus may be more of a prequel but Scott said its really not a prequel to alien
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>>405514898
Obviously something went wrong and they had to get the fuck out of there.
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>>405514886

That makes sense. I was under the impression that the scene in the beginning took place on the engineer world; if you assume it takes place on Earth, your theory seems plausible.
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>>405508708
I know right? That shit must be fucking gigantic and muscular. all of my HNNNGGGG. My girlparts want some o'dat blue alien meat.
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>>405514898
What I want to know is if the Spess Jockeys created an ultimate biological weapon that got loose and fucked them all up the ass, why didn't they glass the fucking planet?
Seriously, they all died a horrifically painful death from a parasitic life form that is incredibly virulent and according to the movie the planet is now utterly inactive.
Humanity has the capability NOW to sterilize a planet, why the fuck didn't they?
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>>405514503
Besides taking it's self too seriously, why was the script shit?
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Anybody got a good link to this movie???...and I mean leaked with good quality...not the shit cam quality you would find on streaming sites.
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>>405515604

Yutani
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>>405515429
It's not plausible, it's fact.
He was supposed to signify the titan Prometheus.
That was the whole point of why we came from them.

And if the story of Prometheus has any actual relevance other than that, he wanted us to be equal to them so he stole the technology of the Gods to give to humans.
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>>405506607
>suppose to be earth 2-3 thousand years ago
>that's when the "engineers" died
>they were heading to earth to pwn the fuck out of it
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>>405515907
I mean why didn't the Spess Jockeys glass it?

they were capable of interstellar fight 50,000 years ago and were obviously well versed in genocide. I'm pretty sure they had some WMDs hidden away.
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Hey, remember the first time they look around the chamber where all the black goo is and there's the carving on the wall. It shows a Xenomorph, in a crucified position. Any thoughts on that?
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ITT butthurt Alien fans who didn't get the exact prequel the want.
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>>405516308
Jesus was an alien
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>>405514689
>>405514351

You know the reason the movie is called Prometheus, ya, well that scene is really why.

You see, the Engineers sacrificing himself, as you call it, was really how life got started on earth (according to the movie not really saying that). When his DNA broke appart, then reformed back together, it created the most basic parts of life. Through what process isn't really clear, nor how the Engineers are able to do that.

What does matter is what he symbolized, he symbolized Promethus, because just as Prometheus brough life to early humans, knowing he was going be be punished(/well in this case sacrificed,) this engineer sacrificed himself for life to start, for everything we know as humans to be created.

Its a great movie, and I bash the flaws, but really, if they spend a little more time on it, maybe 30 minutes, I think it would have been great. A little explaining of some points like this doesn't hurt.
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>>405506149

The movie

/thread
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>>405516308
jesus was a xenomorph
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>>405516127

Fuck man. How did I miss that? That also explains why the engineers wanted to kill off humanity -- they never wanted us around to begin with.
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The one thing that pissed me off the most was when the main bitch was running around Prometheus, and no one was trying to put her in fucking quarantine. You would think they'd restrict he access to the ship if she was put under quarantine.

What happened to those two guys in hasmat suits who were returning her?

Also, why was she not infected after the one guy banged her? I can somewhat get the pregnancy thing, but it shows them kissing.
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in cinema now, waiting for film to start
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>>405506646
as seen in all aliens film's pro tip they all about girls as well
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>>405516727
Wow you're witty
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>>405517001
Because it wasn't infectious maybe?
It was in his DNA by then, and impregnated her with an alien
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>>405506607
the computer was still monitoring earth that was a current hologram
>>405506608
she went in through an opening i think it even showed her crawling in
>>405507409
there were other ships and probably other living spacejockeys aboard that crashed ship (they only checked one cryotube)
>>405512267
THE ALIENS ARE XENOMORPHS
they can change based of what is necessary the real order would go something like egg>facehugger>chestburster>drone>warrior>queen>hybrid
but they are biomechanically engineered to be the best predators in the universe so it makes sense that they could adapt
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>>405517096
Have an open mind. It's a good movie. Everyone in my city loved it who saw it (I'm a mexicofag) and I loved it personally
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>>405516652
Bu…
that would mean the Space Jockeys were here 4.5 billion years ago…
or 500 million if the DNA injection kick started the Cambrian explosion I suppose.
But still, 500 million years was how long it took for life to move from complex multicellular life to now. Why did the Jockeys stay the same?
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I really hate how people will find a movie bad and then dissect flaws in it to prove their point. I'm not saying Prometheous is good, but it's not bad because of the flaws.

I think Prometheous is bad because it lack direction. It starts off as a story of faith then it tries to be a mystery, then weakly tries to be a survival horror story, then works in a revenge premise, then a story about a megalomaniac CEO, then a "save earth" story, and finally ends up ending like most alien/predator movies. To use a food analogy imagine these film elements as ingredients in a recipe. Essentially this Prometheus just took a bunch of ingredients and tried to make a meal w/out putting much thought to how they interact.
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So many fucking idiots in this thread.
>What's the engineer at the start doing
He's fucking Prometheus, seeding Earth with his DNA you stupid faggots. The alien ship that you see left him there to start life.
>HURR DURR IN PROMETHEUS THE ENGINEER DIES IN THE MED BAY BUT IN ALIEN THEY FIND HIM IN THE COCKPIT
They're different goddamn planets. Fuck.
>Why does Vickers have a male calibrated medbay?
You're fucking stupid. It's calibrated for Weyland, whom she clearly knows is on the ship.
Watch the fucking movie before you ask stupid questions or make retarded asumptions.
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>>405513332

TLDR ON THE BLACK GOO FOR EVERYONE

black goo is an agent used in different ways to manipulate and make biological organisms

it is used to turn organisms into parasite organisms that kind of resemble the "alien" aliens (as a biological weapon)

it is used to create life on earth, by using one "engineer's" dna to lay the blueprint of the entire earth's evolution trough Darwinism

i still hate the movie and all its inconsistencies
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>>405514351

He was seeding the planet for life. The Engineers were really big on that idea, self-sacrifice for new life. That was sort of the big theme of the movie.
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>>405517450
Because they had no reason to change.
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I saw it last week and i still dont fucking understand the movie.

SO...
>Space expedition to discover origin of humanity
>Discover race that created humanity
>Decide creating our race was a bad idea
>Develop what is known as the "Alien" creature to destroy humanity
>Fail to destroy humanity
>In what is a some kind of 30 year late prequel to the original film Alien set in the year 2089 which is actually three years later than 2087 when the original was set
>MFW

Someone explain
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>>405506149
No toys and no underwear for children or Thermos' that is one of the defining things about movies hat makes them great in America not if they have competent storytelling direction and a decent cast or a relevant concept that entertains...
Its if you see the movie even when your retarded child takes off his clothes and lays on your couch to watch commercials advertising the move and also that your retarded child plays with the toys...In the future there won't even be movies there will just be posters and toys with advertisements for things that don't even exist and spin-off comics made by dark-horse publishing and also video-games that are released for systems that don't really exist either and all of it will support a Military industrial Complex run by reptiles that live in the center of the earth that need you to recycle reduce and reuse...
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>>405517450
a being that reaches the pinnacle of its evolutionary chain has no reason to adapt/mutate
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In general. I thought it was a good movie. Mind fucked. But the flaw is. Why make the setting 2094 when the original Alien movie was made 1979.
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>>405515325

Something wrong? I'm just going to throw it out their that they have been around for at least 6.7 billion years (age of the earth when they came and started life, and the facility was only 2,000 years old). So I think anything that happened, isn't really that big of a deal to handle if "something went wrong". At least not for a extremely advanced race like them who, from the looks of them, mastered genetic engenering, faster then light travel, terraforming planets, and pretty much science itself

So I'm sure if "something went wrong" it wouldn't be outside of their power to fix it you fucking moron.
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It wasn't really that exiting
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Zombie Geologist = lame.
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i believe this will answer many of the questions posted here...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/nest/200177706
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>>405517768
That's just too much a stretch for my willing suspension of disbelief.

We've demonstrably changed in just 1,000 years.
And if you're about to say technology made them stay the same, that would mean their technology didn't change in 500 million years (at best, 4.5 billion at worst) either since they would change to reflect the ease of life their technology has given them. Which would utterly curbstomp suspension of disbelief.
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>>405518130
wat
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>>405518045

evolution does not work that way, there is always something that gets fucked up that needs to be fixed or evolved out again

ether they dont reproduce and clone themselves, or they are basically near-immortal to immortal and therefore don't reproduce that often in a timespan of a few billion years
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>>405517524
Thank you for making sense.
/thread

>>405514169
Just admit you weren't paying attention when the machine stated it was calibrated for men, not male exclusive.
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>>405506507
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>>405518519
First "Alien" movie was made 1979
>Prometheus shows a Hybrid alien made from the more superior being.

Question for Anons.

Why would the carrier Shaw give birth to the carrier alien while it gives birth to the real alien through the more superior being?

inb4 Lesser humans are beta.
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>>405518435
1478% agree wtf makes zombies? the goo he fell face first into? unless he was a mutation of the goo?
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>>405518963
>superior being
there's no such thing.
Evolution does not work that way.
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I hated this film because the tag line was "Looking for our beginning may bring us our end or some shit", neither our end or beginning we're explained, apparently a whole fleet of ships could be chemtrailing earth at that exact moment and okay, so you see how we're made but why? Because ancient fucking aliens... That was the most explanation they gave us.

If I want to watch another generic alien film i'd see outlander again, not to mention their already trying to fuck the Alien franchise in the ass.
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I can see a line of logic fail here. That tells a story well enough, but how then would our ancient civilizations have interacted with them peacefully then(enough, at least, to paint pictures of them pointing to constellation arrangements). They would have wanted us around, at least for a while in that case.

The big problem I had was that this planet wasn't the home planet of the Engineers, it was some sort of weapons facility right? I remember some line in the movie about the engineers probably not wanting black goo mutation death on their doorstep.

>WHY WOULD THE ENGINEERS GIVE HUMANITY CLUES TO FIND THEIR WEAPONS FACILITY PLANET?

You can't argue that it was some clever trap since the Engineers were planning to come down and attack us 2000 years ago.
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>>405506149

How about the fact that a huge spaceship crashes into the ground yet a small outcropping of rocks stops it from crushing the heroine?
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>>405517985
> ... which is actually three years later than 2087 when the original was set
That's what the script said, but the date never made it to the movie. Not cannon, just like the Predator 2 and AVP movies.
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>>405506607
It represented earth 2000 some years ago, dumb ass!
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David studies ancient languages to try and figure out the language the Engineers used 2000 years ago.
Luckily the find an Engineer ship that's about 2000 years old and uses the language David figured out.

Did it not occur to anyone that the Engineer language might have evolved in 2000 years and that if they found a living homeworld then the language they figured out would not have been much good.
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PROMETHEUS IS SET 2093
ALIEN IS SET SOME TIME AFTER 2122
ALIENS IS SET 2179
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>>405506149
The dates are fucked up NO?

Prometheus set in 2089
Alien set in 2087

Prometheus is a prequel.... waaa....
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Why the flute, and why no engineer bald huge titted bitches?

Seriously though, the flute pissed me off.

So did the goddamn fact that the elephant helmets aren't their real heads, fuck this movie.
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>>405519085
Oh sure. Superior being?
>Same DNA
>Taller
>More powerful
>Also smarter.
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>>405519319
Because she believed in Raptor Jesus and Raptor Jesus controls all the plants and rocks in the universe...
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>>405519836
Well it was a Military base and the weapon turned against them. they all ran and shit and they were dead for 2000 years. DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THIS?!
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>>405519187

This is a underlining flaw in the movie itself.

They left behind clues to their military base planet as far back as 35,000 years ago. And we know the facility that they were at had its last batch of new recruits nearly 2,000 years ago. So that means that this planet might not have been originally for chemical engineering/military purposes in the first place.

It must have had some other purpose since the facility, I know, probably didn't take that long to create the black goo of death. It shouldn't have taken 35,000 years to chemically engineer that, so they must have just recently wanted to kill us, and I'm sure the next movie will explain why they wanted us, their creation/science experiment dead.
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>>405519928
>Same DNA
Chimps share pretty much the same DNA as us as well
>Taller
Means literally nothing
>more powerful
Chimps are far stronger than Humans pound for pound. I'd venture stronger than the space jockey considering the evidence we were shown
>more intelligent
when our species has been in the interstellar era for at least 4 billion years we'll call a comparison then shall we?

By your (lack of) logic an educated chimp is also "superior"
Get the fuck back to School.
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Putting the theory that the Space Jockey in the beginning stealing their DNA and giving it to us aside, why did they want to kill us? It's just like when I'm drawing something, and sometimes at the end of it, I would find something wrong, then, I would have to erase some of it, most of it, or all of it. Maybe they just didn't like how we turned out, and they wanted to fix their mistakes.
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>>405513098

> "Aww, what a pretty space snake; let me play with you even though you are an alien life form that I've never seen before and I have no idea if you act like snakes I've seen on earth, and if something bad did happen, there is a space storm preventing any assistance from the mother ship from reaching me, so I will be totally fucked."


He never said all that...
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>>405520912
Oh a smartass. Yay. Fuck you.
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>>405506149

different planet, different shift
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>>405519928

Products of their environment. Humans would grow taller on a world with weaker gravity, but still be genetically the same as humans on Earth.
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>>405521117
What the fuck? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>405520950
Because they hate vaginas...
And that's why they made space AIDS that gets you pregnant with Alien rape babies...
Also they play the flute like Kenny G and Yanni...
So you put the three worst components of Yanni, Kenny G and the flute and you get space vikings...
Also possibly Humwawa or Pazuzu ,made them either and or both...
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>>405507409

NOT the same ship fag-ass!
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>>405521667
Made me lol.

>>405521525
Yes, Your point sir?
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>>405510489
MP-44 was never used in 1941. Also I think thats a later pattern Camo smock
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>>405517389
Hm, good point.
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>>405519667
Correct dates for the movies.
>>405519836
A faggot who doesn't know what he is talking about. With the correct dates right above him.
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Also, thanks to this movie, AVP doesn't exist. In AVP lore, Xenomorphs are an ancient species that have exist for tens of thousands of years, and Yautjas have been hunting them for tens of thousands of years.

Prometheus shows that Xenomorphs that we know of today have been a product of HUMAN INTERVENTION.
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Did anyone other than Shaw actually say that the Engineers were going to fuck Earth up? She just say holo of Earth and assumed the intent of a much more developed race? alright
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niggers, there is a picture of a fully formed xenomorph when they enter the tomb. also when they entered the tomb, it showed the egg of a face hugger. the body, being 2000 years old means the xenomorphs have existed for at least the same time frame. if the engineers sent the xenomorphs to try and wipe out the predators, then the preds could have had them for much longer, and it didnt work because the preds are badass
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>>405522573
Well, the Engineer started smacking the shit out of them, so it was kind of confirmed
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>>405523394
> there is a picture of a fully formed xenomorph when they enter the tomb
This. WTF
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>>405522502
>>405522502

Your statement can be disproved simply by suggesting the Engineers introduced the Black Goo to the Predator species first. The Xenomorph at the end of Prometheus was Black Goo + Human/Engineer. The Aliens from AVP look much different from the one in Prometheus.

Perhaps the result of Black Goo + Predator. They've been battling for thousands of years.
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>>405523394
Are you fucking stupid? Of course the xenomorphs have been there all along. THEY USED THE VASES AS A WMD.

They were supposed to use the xenomorphs to kill off the human species but the xenomorphs turned on them and they were pretty much fucked.

The huge imprint of the xenomorph is the Queen Xenomorph.
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>>405523394

I'm curious about that sculpture (and miffed at the way the changing ceiling was basically an aside). Either they've already achieved the xenomorph, or the xenomorph in the film is some ultimate form that they hope to achieve by dicking with DNA.
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>>405523394

NIGGER, Predator 2 is set in 1997. AVP movies were set in 2000's. Prometheus shows humanity's first contact with anything xenomorphic, which is set in 2089.

AVP, DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.
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>>405506149
the engineers were at war with the predators and created the biological weapon to use against them.
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>>405523782
the sculpure on the wall behind the head, am i the only person that recognized that it looked exactly like the aliens from the earlier movies?
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>>405524130
It was the queen Xenomorph. The big ass one.
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>>405522502
No they both exist and you guys can start gangs based on the alien movies without predators, the predator movies that led to the skull on the wall in P2 and then also the alien vs predator movies and comic books which Prometheus got some of the inspirational ideas from like the precursor race going apeshit and smashing everyone mit der kämpfe und der blut, then there is the Prometheus movie that comes before Yaphet kotto and the alien's movie that is the link for all of the other ones...
>...
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Just speculative theory but I think the jockey in the beginning is the way in which the engineers deliver their WMD ooze, and this was one of the planets they targeted, not earth. They dose themseleves and then the planet becomes infected?
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>>405523472
Couldn't that be in response to what David said?
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>>405523942

The xenomorphs Yautjas battled in the movies ARE SPAWNED FROM HUMANS. If they DID come from Predators already, they would have looked like THIS FIRST.
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>>405524021
4 stages of xenomorph form.
>Bacterial/Micro-organism
Grows or mutates into...
>Carrier/Infected (fifield type infected the engineer)
and..
>Carrier puts egg into person and grows eventually...
>Complete Xenomorph form at 4th stage of evolution.

Where is your god now?
>>405524354
Wat
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>>405524110
the whole point of my statement is that proof is scattered in the movie that the aliens as we saw them in 1-3 existed BEFORE the people ever got there.

and if engineer and human dna are so close, they would come out looking essentially the same
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>>405524110
the whole point of my statement is that proof is scattered in the movie that the aliens as we saw them in 1-3 existed BEFORE the people ever got there.

and if engineer and human dna are so close, they would come out looking essentially the same

AND FUCK THIS FLOOD PROTECTION, IM TRYING TO RAGE ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION ABOUT A MOVIE
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Also about the AVP lore.

Yautja and Predators have been hunting each other for thousands and thousands of years.

Yautja's travel to earth every 100 years to hunt.
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>>405524110
Your one stupid motherfucker. Read the recent posts.
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>>405519838

Maybe the flute was just their way of making sure only their species could use their technology. For all we know, through their apparent millenias of space travel they might have made some alien enemies. Yeah, I know those enemies could figure out a way to get around it, but I'd want to stall them every second I could if they were attacking my base. Hell, may be they invented the goo to fight those enemies, what do I know?
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/nest/200177706

Read this, guise.
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>>405524553
It's possible, but it's not hard to figure out what David said.

Weyland was telling him to tell it that they came via invitation. and you could hear the word "Creator", so it's not unreasonable to assume he said you created us.
That doesn't sound like fighting words.
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>>405525257

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>405525104
Do you mean Yautja and Xenomorphs?
Yautja are the same thing as Predators.
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The main character was an archaelogist, an astronaught, a bioligist, and a geneticist all in one.

Characters were standard action movie roles than could have been written by a 6 year old.

If the planet they found was an alien military installation with the sole purpose of destroying the humans they created, and was dormant for thousands of years, wouldn't the original alien planet send a search and rescue? Or atleast set up another plan to destroy humanity after the first 1000 years of being dormant.

Alien DNA is a 100 percent match of ours, aliens have green blood.

This movie was terrible and everyone who likes it is terrible
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Could anyone confirm what movie the Queen Mother Xenomorph was introduced too?

It'd probably brighten things up with Time frames concerning the Engineer + Xenomorph introduction in the early 2000's
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Love Ridley Scott... Love Alien and Blade Runner. This movie was a real shit sandwich.
I can't believe no one has mentioned that Engineers started their spaceship with a fucking flute. Ghey.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/xXTRIGGERFITXx
Can anyone close my account it wont let me do it :(
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>>405525819
Yes Yautja's are predators. and Sorry I meant Yautja and xenomorphs have been*
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>>405525597
see
>>405525569
9th paragraph from the bottom.
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>>405525793
tl;dr you stupid bitch.
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>>405524553

David probs called the Engineer
a bitch nigga.
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>>405525912

ALIENS
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>>405525912

At the end, an alien-like xenomorph appears. Don't know if its The Queen or a Queen.
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>>405506149
I think the black goo was protoplasmic Alien.
The Space Jockeys ahd come across Aliens before and thought these guys would make great weapons, but what's the best way to deliver them?
Reverse gene-engineer aliens back to their most basic stage
>black goo
Alter the DNA so they evolve super fast
>tiny worm
>bigger worm
>primitive facehugger
then they reach their genetic "cap"
>regular alien
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>>405525878
>If the planet they found was an alien military installation with the sole purpose of destroying the humans they created, and was dormant for thousands of years, wouldn't the original alien planet send a search and rescue? Or atleast set up another plan to destroy humanity after the first 1000 years of being dormant.

Zombie invasion in LA. Would the military send back up or Nuke the place?

>Would you nuke a planet or just let it be and let them thrive and starve
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>>405526113

Suck my big floppy Engineer cock, fucking newfag, get off my /b/.
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The 'girl-pregnant-with-alien' thing was forced and unnecessary.
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>>405526130
Now.. Didn't the Xenomorph Hive stay there for thousands of years? Im pretty sure it was there
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Not enough hardcore fucking!
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>>405524489
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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>>405526406
inb4 this is your /b/ anon
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In the first alien the Engineer was still in the chair but in this he was killed. Now unless its a different ship idk....
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>>405526352
flawed analogy.
A planet is a closed system where the repercussions can't affect nearby inhabited areas.
LA isn't.
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>>405526523
I dont think they dosed themselves. Remember the vase melting under uncontrolled atmosphere? and worms?
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>>405526576

Yeah, it is, otherwise, you wouldn't be here.
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>>405508013
brilliant!
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I think 99% of people who watch this movie miss the point of it. It's meant to make you think about the human condition in an absurdist sense and the purpose of faith. All of you sci-fi plebs are too busy looking at the details.

3deep5u
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>>405526272
Yeah its A Queen. Xenomorphs are kind of like ants.
See this ; http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Xenomorph_Prime
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>>405506353
The first thing that I thought of when the engineer first came on screen.
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>>405525104
>>405524687
>>405524110
>>405523942
PREDATORS ARE NOT CANON TO THE ALIEN UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Q: Why did the engeneer at start disintegrate after drinking the black goo, and yet when the geologist fell into the pool of black liquid he turned into zombie.
Q: Why did they made the black shit anyway? And was it actually ment for us?
Q: Why did they created us in the first place? Was it intentional?


also yfw you realized that xenomorphs evolved from a creature that came out of an engineer, wich was invaded by a giant tentacle rape monster wich grew up from that tiny squid that was cut oit of the new Ripley and was supposingly dead. And she was pregnat because she had sexd with a guy that drunk the black shit.

mind = blown
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>>405506149
You don't run, jump and fight aliens after Caesarean.

Now, about my reward...
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Where dose lance hendricksons Charles bishop weyland fit in the equation is he the son of promrhiuses wetland or grand son or is the wetland in proverbial bishops son?
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the whole thing is basically an analogy for christ.
>Shaw = virgin mary, can't get pregnant, does.
>gives birth christmas day
>Her "son" saves humanity by killing the engineer
>she leaves the planet on new years day. The day of the feast of St mary
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>>405526726
No. I didnt explain myself that well.

Would you blow up a fucking moon. Or would you save resources and just let it be.

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