Bullshit.

Obama will win anyway - Nobody cares about gays marrying.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/top-gop-pollster-to-gop-reverse-on-gay-issues.html

If you read this you will see that the gop knows they are on the wrong side of history.

This is assuming you know how to read.

>Implying Gay marriage is an issue for anyone outside backwater-incest-jesusland

It's not gonna make a difference.

>>399374014
This.

I hate obama, and romney, but I think its insulting that gay marriage is even given a second thought.

>>399374172

this is why faux noise is watching what they say and are not just going on a gaybashing parade.

>>399374402
it's like they're...learning

I dont give a fuck what anyone says. George Bush was AWESOME!

>>399373778

OP, I know that you were just trolling, but you can see here that the vast majority of people are not bothered by the issue. Gay marriage hurts nobody.

/thread

>>399374812

George Bush, great president? or GREATEST president?

Why do gays care so much about marriage? Most marriages end in divorce anyway. I've lived with my girlfriend for 2 years and we never had to have gay married OK's by the government to keep living together.

>>399375141

>>399375672

Joint tax returns, insurance, hospital visiting rights, general acceptance as part of society and not a "freak" who should be ashamed, etc.

>>399374992

ITT: faggots confusing /b/ for America...

No matter how summer it gets in here, you have to realize that middle america has no appetite or tolerance for traps, fags, gore or furries.

There is a seriously mainstream world out there, and most people - By the numbers - Hate fags.

They hate thm with the fire of a thousand suns and would vote for a scary Nazi like Romney rather than promote buggery.

So yeah, 45th predident - Mitt Romney.

If you walked around anywhere in the US last week and asked a random republican what Obama's position was on gay marriage I guarantee they would have assumed he was for it. He was already for civil unions this doesn't change much. The election will be all about economy.

>>399375672
Part of it is the benefits. But the real reason is respect-- we pay the same taxes you do, register for the draft like you do, go on jury duty like you do, etc. We assume all the responsibilities and obligations of citizenship that straights have to put up with (especially after DADT ended), and we should be treated equally under the law, having access to the same privileges as everyone else.

And I say this as a gayfag who has no intention whatsoever of getting married.

>>399375991

Benefits meant for people who contribute to society with the possibility of procreating...

What the fuck do 2 faggots with 2 MALE incomes and NO children need tax breaks for?

MDMA?

Poppers?

Pet Shop Boys CDs?

>>399375991

sorry, but in most cases you already have exceptions for insurance and hospital visiting rights and well... gays should feel like freaks, because they are. they have chosen to be freaks and thankfully cannot pass their defective genes on to future generations, they are evolutionary dead ends, and therefore there is no reason for them to marry, cause they can't start a family/procreate.

>>399376131
>implying that 75% of the use of "fag" delineations on /b/ aren't just politically incorrect sarcasm without any real meaning
>implying that fully 10% of /b/ isn't gay just like the rest of the world

>>399373778
Troll or idiot. Later. Op izafag

>>399376716

So... an elderly couple has no reason to marry, since they can't procreate? Should that be stopped as well?

>>399376871
>>399376871
Faggots got assburgers

Inb4 he rages on me saying assburgers

So now Obama has the black, gay, socialist, democratic, and poor votes... no way he can lose...

>>399375991
Why the fuck would WE need joint tax returns? We both already have visiting rights. Being married had nothing to do with general acceptance. Even if we could get married that would not force anyone to accept it.

>>399373778
Ironic, considering that Romney and half of his party are fags. Not even normal ones either, but sick ones, for twinks.

Romney won't will the election, and thats coming from a moderate with slightly conservative viewpoints...I'm not an Obama fanboy, but I'd rather see what happens with another 4 years of him, than hand over the keys to Mitt...dude scares the shit out of me

What about lesbians, OP?

Acceptance of sexual deviants into the mainstream is generally the last thing an empire does before falling.

Pic related - It's a "family friendly" gay pride parade which the local school board suggests primary schools students should attend.

>>399377561
Agreed.

He's secured the psycho-scumfag votes. He's practically untouchable, now.

There are so few straight white men left...it's hopeless.

>>399377283

Yes.

F is for Fail

>>399378092
What about a straight couple that gets married, has sex numerous times without a pregnancy resulting, and goes to a fertility clinic only to learn that the man is sterile. Should the government retroactively invalidate this marriage?

>>399377770

They are included.

In actual fact, they are far worse than Gay men.

The real ones with the love handles, short hair and birkenstocks - Not the lipstick lesbians in Playboy who are in it for the money.

>>399377869
>Acceptance of sexual deviants into the mainstream is generally the last thing an empire does before falling.

You're great. You've renewed my hope.

It's not so bad. I'll shoot a few niggers and a few communists before I die. I've had a good life so far.

>>399378412
Nigger, that would be like a get out jail free card!

Absolutely. Husbands everywhere would do whatever it took to kill their sperm count.

>>399378412

>Implying being gay and being infertile are the same thing

>>399378412

Obviously not - It's out of their control.

Besides they've probably spent more of their own after-tax dollars on fertility clinics than you have on lube, ecstasy and skinny jeans.

>>399379231

We're just punching holes in the "can't procreate so no marriage" argument. Nobody said that they're the same thing.

>>399379481
So... elderly couples can't get married, even though it's not their fault they can't have kids. You throw them under the bus, but have a special place in your heart for infertile couples?

No homosexual could hold a candle to a Mormon when it comes to faggotry. Does anyone honestly think the American people will elect one of these foul creatures?

>>399379650

There is a difference between "can't procreate" and "have no intention of procreating, but demanding the same benefits and protections as those who try".

I am against gays simply because it make you an abomination to NATURE! If nature intended to men to fuck men, and women to fuck women, it would have made it so. Fucking homo's

>>399379481

Stereotypes aside, being gay is also out of one's control. If you think that it's a choice, you're mistaken. A gay person can't CHOOSE to be straight any more than I could CHOOSE to be gay.

>>399377869
prove it.
protip: you can't

>>399379691

You have to draw the line somewhere.

At least I know where it is.

>>399380050
Sounds fair enough. What if a fertile heterosexual couple applies for a marriage license, but they have stated they don't intend to have children? Should they be denied the right to marry because of this personal choice of theirs?

>>399380245

Prove what?

>>399380249
But how do you know where the line is? That's all I'm trying to figure out. Why infertile couples, but not elderly couples? Are you just making judgments based on your own gut feelings about these different kinds of relationships, or can you back your contentions up with some sound logic?

>implying there's not a lot of actual faggots out there like OP
>implying that they wouldn't be inspired to vote for Obama because of this

>>399380427

Yes their marriage license should be denied/revoked.

They have no need for the benefits and protections of the institution of marriage if they have no intention of starting a family.

>>399381013
Alrite, alrite. What about a fertile heterosexual couple that decides not to have children of their own, but instead adopts several kids from a local orphanage. Should they be able to get married?

>>399381013

Imagine if a politician ran for office while publicly stating those views. They would get destroyed. If you're serious, your views are not shared by many others.

>>399380742

Easy to know where the line is - It's about intent.

If you're looking for a free ride - No dice.

Could be difficult to enforce I admit, but then again, The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.

Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>399380427
Yes, yes yes!

I'm all for anything that saves men from marriage. If we take the right to marry away from non-procreating couples, will you faggots shut up?

>>399381473
Free ride? If gay couples pay the same taxes that straight couples do, if they have done so for all their lives, if they might even be raising children of their own, why would you call it seeking a free ride for them to apply for the same benefits their straight counterparts get. And you're right, to actually enforce your ideas properly would be difficult. It'd probably require creating a large bureaucracy, loads of inefficiency in the marriage application process, and various other headaches.

>>399381219

Yes, of course. That is very useful to society.

But I disagree with homosexual couples adopting.

So "no" to the next thing you are going to say.

Being gay is like trying to force 2 magnets together when the force is pushing them apart. Nature did not intend for those 2 opposing forces to come together. Or trying to make 2+2=5. Just like 2 men or 2 women.

>>399373778
You have that backwards. By taking the bait and discussing the issue, Mit Romney has doomed his campaign. All he had to do was shrug off the issue and claim it was a distraction from the economy, which it is.

>Watch the hands, not the magician.

>>399381864
Why not just do away with marriage for everyone? That would avoid the bureaucracy.

Also, we could then say definitively that gays destroyed the institution of marriage.

>>399382154
That's good. All I'm trying to get out of you is that anti-gay prejudice is at the center of your opposition to gay marriage, not a rational line of thoughtful arguments. But obviously, this debate will change no one's mind, 4chan debates almost never do. So I'll say goodnight, and leave you with the gentle reminder that gay marriage will be legal across the country in your lifetime.

why cant gay people get married?
>absolutely nothing will change, except gay people will now be called "married gay people".
what the hurt? whats the problem?
>i thought marriage was a religious aspect not a legal.
i mean am i the only one that isnt crazy?
>then these stupid ass faces say "well whats next people marring dogs or ice cream."
gay people are people! why would we make it legal to marry dogs? WE THE PEOPLE

>>399381864

2 Gay men have 2 disposable male incomes and no expenses other than Grey Goose, cocaine and lube... They should pay the same taxes as a single person unless they can show that they have expenses related to furthering the species... Private Schools, Baby Gap, Summer Camp, Etc.

Doesn't matter, there will be a civil war before the election anyway.

Don't believe me? Suit yourself.

>>399382287
There are only 2 objectives for life.
>Reproduce
>survive
Gay's can not reproduce, meaning they would not be able to survive.
/thread

>US
>elect a mormon

You're fucking, kidding, right?

We hate mormons more than we hate jews, arabs, and mexicans put together.

>>399382994
yeah right. Americans don't do shit to help themselves. they just bend over and take it. That's all that will happen.

>>399383062
repsoduction is necessary for survival?

shit who knew?

>>399383062
im not saying i believe in gay as a way of life. i also dont think you should smoke weed.
but just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean its not right for everyone.
who is getting hurt letting them married?
theyre already having sex.

>>399382681

Goodnight Anon.

I live in Canada, and Gay marriage is already legal here.

This is a philosophical argument, and I am not a homophobe.

I live in Toronto for chrissake - This place makes Fire Island look like Sesame Street.

Cheers, via con dios and remember to pay your way in life.

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HEY YOU LEAVE RED SHIRT GUY OUT OF THIS! HE NEEDS TO CHECK THE FACTS OKAY?!

>>399382287
That's funny you would say that. Gay couples can love each other just as much as straight couples, and can get along just as well. Just because nature didn't intend for same sex relationships to happen doesn't mean it can't happen. That's like saying just because nature didn't "intend" to cause a forest fire it cannot happen.

>>399383268

I don't believe Americans will have much to say about it. I've been hearing things from the underground.. the usual conspiracy shit, sure... but suddenly sources that disagree are agreeing about it. I've heard from several sources there is a fracture in the military of some sort, and I don't expect Obama to let go of power over something as silly as a vote. I feel like something is getting ready to happen, before the end of the year.

>>399383595
Your apparently not getting my point.

>>399384272
please tell me what your point is.

>>399384068
Yeah, because it's the Democrats who are known for rigging Presidential elections.

Look up the documentary married to the Eiffel Tower. There's some bitch in there who is LEGALLY MARRIED to the golden gate bridge, in America, as well as the Eiffel Tower in France.

So while this psycho bitch can LEGALLY marry a BRIDGE, two people of the same sex can't marry each other

Wtf America?

>>399376559

Gentials or GFTO

Obama will lose.

>>399373778
>>>/pol/

>>399384684
This same woman also holds several Olympic Medals for marksmanship. And can fly a plane pretty well.

>>399373778

>Implying we wont get a bunch of ads saying how romney was a huge bully douche

>>399384670
>still thinks Bush rigged any elections
>probably thinks he "stole" the Presidency from Gore

>>399383950
But nature does intend for those forst fires to happen. Because they do happen. If it didnt, then just like those two magnets, it wouldn't happen.
And im not even talking about "love" here. This "love" has nothing to do with reproduction. When a single cell splits to reproduce more do you really thing love had anything to do with it?

I don't much keep up with politics, but how come you ever hear about which Republicans Obama is running against? Aren't there any other Democrat candidates competing for the nomination?

Obama is shit.

The US would do well to be rid of him.

Economically, he is fiddling while Rome burns.

Romney will probably do little better to reform the US govt's budget fiasco, but since he is business friendly there might actually be more jobs when he's done than when he started, unlike OCarter.

Either way, the US is fucked. But with Romney, you might still have a chance.

I hope you stupid shits get 4 more years of the nigger. You deserve him.

>>399382287
>>399382287

That's funny because homosexuality IS NORMAL IN NATURE. Besides the definition of nature isn't set in stone. Anything that happens in the fucking universe is all natural. From the explosion of a motherfucking star to two homosexual descendants of an overly yet not nearly evolved ape species on the clusterfuck of dirt known as earth by its only "intelligent" inhabitants (whatever that means) which happens to be this shitty as race.

When I was younger I figured the act of getting into other peoples business was an act only reserved by shriveled old hags with nothing better to do with their pointless life. But I'm clearly fucking wrong, when a website full of prepubescent, and worst of all "grown" men gather around like fucking mongoloids to talk shit about how other people should live their life. HOLY FUCK I am full of mad right now.

All my rage could destroy a thousand stars right now.

>>399385232
>stupid nigger doesn't know who won in Florida

>>399385275
no, but love has to do with marriage.
we arent saying being gay is better or something it just doesnt hurt me or you if those gay people could legally be married.

>>399376704

>implying that procreation is a good thing.

Fucking idiot. Let the fags marry. Who gives a shit? I sure don't. I like them for the fact that they DON'T make children. This planet is 6 billion people above it's carrying capacity. Fuck off inbred hick high school-diploma-having retard.

>>399384670

Democrats and Republicans are the same fucking thing.

Bush to Obama looked like the most radical political change in American History... Almost a revolution.

Yet here we are 4 years later - Still in Iraq, Still in Afghanistan, now in Libya on top of everything else and about to mix it up with Iran.

Guantanamo Bay is still open, and we now have naked body scanners at the airports.

What has changed really except the words coming out of the teleprompter?

Not a fucking thing.

Bush already looks like Captain Kangaroo.

>>399384557
My point is nature did not intend got people to be gay. If it did then it would have made it so 2 male or female reproductive organs could reproduce.

op be trollin. i'm voting for him because look at the fucking alternative

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>>399385531

The best part of all of this is that your media has you dumbass niggers arguing over gay marriage.

Meanwhile you are racking up trillion+ federal deficits, and project things to only get worse.

Its like you are in a car running off a cliff and you are arguing over what color floor mats you what to buy next season.

It will be funny to watch when the US economy goes the way of Greece (its coming) and there will be no EU to bail you dumb shits out of hock.

I think China will laugh the most, but the rest of us will roflcoptor as well.

So worry about gay marriage you stupid shits. The end is coming.

The criminal in the White House has been mostly unopposed in the Democratic primaries, but a criminal in the Big House got 41% of the Democratic primary vote in West Virginia.

Which is almost as embarrassing as when a guy who had just died won the senate election last decade.

>>399385531
>because homosexuality is normal in nature.
not sure if troll or full retard. Tell me how homosexuality promotes life or the survivability of any species. I bet you can't. If you see a male humping another male when it comes to animals, it's usually just a display of dominance, not sexual attraction.

>>399385657
And marriage is a religious thing. Religion started marriage. And most religions do not support gay's

>>399385531
mah nigga and i ain't even gay

>>399385531

It's not about what's normal, it's about what we as a society choose to promote with tax breaks and benefits.

You can pound ass all day long - It's a free country.

Just don't expect a discount for it, as it benefits no-one but you.

>>399383062

Why do straight people produce random gays? If gay people can't survive why have they been around for the entire human history? Why can animals be gay? There are hundreds of cases.

>>399385531
Really? Being gay is natural? HOLY FUCK SINCE WHEN CAN TO MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS MAKE A BABY?!?!?!?!?!

>>399385984
right ok i agree.
now try to get my point.
>not everybody has the same opinion about whats sexually right or wrong.
>it doesnt hurt NOBODY for them to marry.

if anything obama sealed his second prez win, alot of the US pop is gay, and gays will vote for him securing his vote

>>399386318
Actually, homosexuality can be found in hundreds of species of animals, not just humans. And although it doesn't help the species, it's also not genetic.

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>>399373778

>By declaring his support for asspounding faggots, Obama has just handed the presidency over to Mitt Romney.


Nah. THAT won't make a bit of difference. Those that wanted it wouldn't vote for Romney no matter what because of the "R" by his name, those that didn't want it weren't going to vote for Obama because of the "D" by his name.

The only wonder here is that Obama apparently did think it would make some sort of difference which suggests a disturbingly colossal misunderstanding of the electorate.

>>399386805

If you are right, explain why gay marriage has been voted down consistently every time it gets a state referendum -- even in hardcore blue states.

You are a fucking mouth breathing mongoloid.

>>399386763
Yes I understand that two people of the same sex getting married hurts no one. But thats not my argument here. My argument it being gay in not fucking natural!

>>399375991

But you should be ashamed of your God-less cock swallowing

>>399373778

dear god you're fucking retarded. From a purely statistical point of view, Obama just won. Conservatives don't give a shit about you unless you're a straight upper class white male, and I think there are more people who don't fall under that demographic than those that do.


ITT: Dumbass republicans

Faggots are wrong because a pen0r does not go into a vagoo.

That is all.

>>399387217
You don't see much nature do you...

>>399386172
You are less advanced in mental and social development than is usual for one's age.

there are 7 billion too many people in the world
50% of hetero marriages end in divorce

your arguments are invalid

gay marriage should be legalized

>>399386848
Now show me one case ware in ANY of those species, two of the same sex reproduced.

>>399387482
>Conservatives don't give a shit about you unless you're a straight upper class white male
i know a lot of libs say this to troll, but it always amazes me when people actually believe this

>>399387483
And the funny thing is 90% of the people here who say that will never have sex with a woman.

>>399386532

Lots of niggers in prison go gay. U wanna be one?

>>399386760
youve never seen a male dog hump another male dog?
and im not saying fags are natural, law is not natural bro. me and you are not living in nature. but gay people are infact people so why cant we treat them as such and let them marry?

>>399387669
> there are 7 billion too many people in the world

and yet america has half the population density of europe

ever been outside of LA or NY? shit's pretty empty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vhaThnPWB0A

>>399387523
Please, go ahead and give me one example ware to male's reproduced.

>>399387757
>>399387757

prove me wrong. when has any republican done something that benefits people outside that demographic?

>>399387946
male dogs hump male dogs as a sign of dominance

basically to humiliate the catcher for being gay

>>399386318

True - So why expect a tax break for a simple diplay of dominance?

>>399388120
repubs basically own 50% of the vote

this would be impossible if they were the white men only party, as men as a whole are only 49% of the population, and restricting it to white men makes it even smaller

just because repubs don't pander to minorities doesn't mean they're anti-minority.

>>399388026
LA's already got a problem with having enough water. Land isn't the only limit on population.

mfw the majority support gay marriage
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>>399387946
You clearly have no idea how dogs work. When you see a dog humping another one it is a display on dominance. Nothing sexual.

>>399387946
>>399387946
>>399387946


Actually that's a dominance thing. You will see both male and female dogs hump lots of things. It isn't for sexual pleasure it is because they are asserting their dominance over the thing they are humping

Aside from a few exceptions, animals only have sex to reproduce, they do not have it for pleasure like humans do.

Using the animal kingdom as an example of why homosexuality is nature is dumb.

Not saying it's not natural just that this is a poor way to draw a conclusion one way or another.

>>399388083
two males cannot reproduce. but they can love each other and can have sex.
male dogs hump other male dogs. ive seen female dogs try to hump other females. yes!
>why does reproduction mean its ok?
>gays will most likely adopt, isnt that a good thing for all the un needed reproduction that straights have done?

Most recent election on the subject: http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/north-carolina-voters-approve-same-sex-marriage-ban-20120508

Its been a few years since California did the same.

Canadian here. Just going to drop some logic, who does it hurt to have same sex marriage? Also, the U.S. is supposed to be the "Land of the free" how on earth is gay marriage being illegal exemplifying freedom. Simply put, its about time the U.S. separates its church from the state. Cause if not, you're no better than some of the political institutions in the Arab world. Remember everyone should have the freedom to practice their own beliefs, but no one should have the freedom to infringe on the beliefs of others.

>>399388484

>doesn't pander to minorities doesn't mean they're anti-minority

so passing legislation that fucks over minorities is "pro-minority".

dear godrepublicans are idiotic

>>399387669

Here is my opinion of your opinion...

>>399388712
again, im on your side! i agree!
but not everybody does, and those people dont hurt me or you. so they should have just as many rights as you!

>>399385531
Name a few species of animals where male on male happens. Homosexuality isn't normal.

>By declaring his support for asspounding faggots, Obama has just handed the presidency over to Mitt Romney.

Seems unlikely, but even so - it is better to stand by your principles and lose than to pander to the ignorant majority and win.

he had a surge of donations after that announcement

>>399388862

When Canada on the whole has greater freedoms than do the US, you can talk. Until then, you might want to take a closer look at your own government.

>>399388895

>so passing legislation that fucks over minorities is "pro-minority".

[citation needed]

>>399388214
>basically to humiliate the catcher for being gay

You really have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Straight, religious, upperclass Christian male with a hot girlfriend here.

Enjoy being poor faggots who think they are smart while I am getting top notch education for free from my rich ass family

Richfag out, don't even bother replyig

>>399388895
not giving out handouts != hurting minorities

in fact, all the help repubs give to businesses allow these minorities to be employed

you mad repubs dont want to give them money for free?

>>399389253
im in the states and i lol'd

>>399389212

Homosexual behaviour is well documented in nature - it has been observed in over 1500 species... so I guess that sinks your argument before it even starts ;}

>>399389212
Who the hell cares if its not normal? honestly? The world isn't full of people who want to share your beliefs on what is normal. In fact in Europe you would be the weirdo who opposes same sex marriage.