Are you a bad enough dude to help save the Web?
STOP SOPA AND PIPA

Weak and pathetic? Okay. Let's wrestles. >=3

>>375664532

Sounds like candy-ass speak for butt-fucking to me

>>375664774
Well, I mean, we can do that, too. It's just not my first choice.

>>375664950
awe why not, am i not cute enough for you :3

>>375664532
>=3

go back to gaia, candy-ass.

Vegetarians are pretty disgraceful. Doesn't really do anything to prove humans' worth on this planet.

yep.

>>375664532
FAG

>>375664532

OP would love to. Any carnivore (Well, ominvore would be more appropriate I guess) could thrash a vegetarian at any form of competition ever; physical or mental.

>>375665178
Gaia? Like Gaia online?

N-... No thank you. But thanks for the info. =\

I agree OP. EVERY SINGLE fucking Vegan I have EVER met in my ENTIRE life, has been off mentally in some way. You can tell when u talk to them that something up there is not right. They disgust me.
Betcha anything if any one of those crazy's were in the desert with nothing but camel meat to eat, they would be chowing down like they had a #9 at Burger King.
They disgust me.

its normal to hate people who are extremely selfrighteous about anything. this goes for vegetarians/vegans, straightedge kids, the religious, etc

My friend is a vegetarian and he's not an asshole about it. You wouldn't even know he's a vegetarian. I guess only the old, old ones are assholes. We're in high school.

>>375665315
Then, there should be no hesitation, should there? =3

>>375665437
... Um... Why is that disgusting? Trying not to kill animals unless absolutely necessary is disgusting?

>>375665412
I don't even care, go elsewhere, by the way you type you are too young and annoying to be here.

If someone chooses to be vegan for the sake of animals and himself, I see nothing wrong with that. That's great.

If one tries to spread that idea in the peta fashion or forces it on children, that's vulgar.

>>375665412

>>375665814
You're right. The big Four-Oh isn't for another couple of weeks. =<

>I hate when they
>They're weak and pathetic
why are you so upset and mad and aggressive
they probably just want to help you
if you eat less meat (HURR TRY IT YRSELF) you will have more energy feel better and be able to concentrate more.
fruit + veg bro

my girlfriend is a vegan. and she doesn't brag about it or anything she just throws up if she tastes any kinda meat, except mine. just get over it brah.

been textin this girl for a while.
this morning she texts "yum, chocolate chip pancakes!"
i responded "yum, omelet with bacon!" shes like "...you eat animals...?"
she stopped responding to texts.
fucking cunt.

>>375665412
Hey /b/ro
Isn't it funny how people follow along with these rules of "don't use emoticons"? Type whatever the fuck you want.

>>375666097
*Four-Teen

>>375665905
In the way that pushing meat-eating on children is wrong? Or pushing clothes-wearing on children is wrong? Or pushing gender-roles on children is wrong? Raising your children according to your own value system is normal. Just let them make the decision when they're old enough to do so for themselves.

>>375665315
Hi there. I'm a vegetarian chess candidate master who was in my uni's swimming team. You were saying?

>>375666153
THAT is a great example of an asshole. Not gonna stereotype all vegetarians as cunts though. But holy shit that would piss me off.

>>375665814
>too young and annoying to be here

95% of the people on /b/ are young and annoying.

>>375665795
Don't imply that I would kill an animal for no reason. I would only kill and animal to eat or if I was in danger.
Disgusting, is the nagging that those vegans express on humanity for even thinking about eating meat.
I laugh at the chalky white skin that most of those fanatic's display due to lack of protein and proper nutrition.
Still disgusting.

>>375666128

Because I just had some vegan candy-ass in Liverpool talk at me about why eating meat is 'wrong' and 'bad for me', so I told him that being a candy-ass is bad for him, because one day someone a little more volatile will come along and demolish him for being so nosey and intrusive.

why does everyone give a fuck about it

>>375666153
I find this kind of dickish, too. But that's just her being a dick. It's not because she's a vegan. She's just a dick. /=\

>>375666660
bad luck on the 6s

mmmmmm bacon

its even better when they brag about being so healthy then they whip out a cigarette and I'm like what the fuck

I once tried being vegetarian
>Fact
Though it depends on the person, being a vegetarian generally makes you FATTER. I didn't eat meat, I didn't get protein. I was a hungry motherfucker, this means I ate a bunch of snacks and shit-food.

I feel the same about people who believe a god would speak to a small selection of monks, who would then transcribe these conversations into a book that should be pushed upon everyone to follow.

Every fucking vegan/vegetarian I have ever talked to have always been on a rant about how their diet it much more healthier than mine, yet every single one has at some point in time developed at least a minor case of anemia from IRON DEFICIENCY.

>>375666464
You would kill an animal to eat when there's an alternative.

Also, the reason most vegetarians are more healthy than most non-vegetarians isn't because they stop eating meat, entirely, but more because once they do, they pay more attention to their overall nutrition than most who don't undergo dietary changes. =3

Overall, vegans and vegetarians in general are annoying cunts, I have still yet to meet one to change my mind about that.

One girl I know became a vegan just to appease her friend who was also vegan, it's this sort of shittery that makes me hate them all.

I'm a vegetarian. I hate vegetarians and vegans. Also myself.

So yeah, completely normal, carry on OP.

I'll just leave this here:
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=vegetarian_test

Enjoy.

>>375666381
There are numerous studies that it can interfere with the developement of the brain in children. Don't risk it.

>>375666910
No offense, but you were doing it wrong. =<

There are other sources of complete protein, and you can mix incomplete proteins in order to form whole proteins. Eating a ton of snack food is bad for you whether you eat meat or not. =\

>>375666914

Ctrl+C Ctrl+V

Real men eat as much fucking meat as they can find.

And personally I love animals, but I love eating them too.

Vegetarian here, don't like vegetarians who imply that they're healthier than everyone else. My meat eating friends who exercise are infinitely more healthy than a vegetarian who watches TV all day. I just don't like the idea of killing something because i'm hungry.

Vegans are in fact morons, some are even worse.

I know one that started into multiple illnesses, eventually vomiting blood... problem? She was starving to death and rotting away. She had to compromise and become an "ova-lacto vegetarian". Why? Allergic to peanuts and soy, and bad reactions to all beans. Wouldn't eat oats, barley and a list of other things.

Even worse? Fucking bitch wouldn't and couldn't cook, so she put all this crap on her husband to prepare her special meals. Want worse? She doesn't make enough money and he's been unemployed for 2 years now, most of their food coming from the local food banks and WIC. So yes, as taxpayers we're paying for this retarded vegan to survive.

Vegans...

/thread

go look at a gorilla meatcandy-asss
they have incisors and shit and 300lbs of muscle... THEY DONT EAT MEAT
get it?
muscle from protien (in plants HURR i know that's not what you thought was possible but it is DUR)
incisors for getting thru root veg like carrots and tough stuff.

the only reason we EVOLVED to eat meat was a SURVIVAL trait (thats why you feel lethargic+crap after as it's not our primary food source)
people who couldn't eat meat during times of crop problems and water shortage would die. hence most ppl today can eat meat.

in the current society (especially with highly automated farming) it's stupid to eat meat

also you'l have more energy if you eat veg and fruit and just feel better

what's your problem try it for yourself if you dont believe me!

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>>375667235
His argument is flawed. He says suffering is staying in a cubicle for 10 hours a day. Except that suffering is met with a reward in the form of salary. The suffering a food animal is subjected to is only rewarded with, uh, death. =\

>Really Healthy
I've met only one vegan in my life so far and she is OBESE.

>>375667470

Euugh that's fucking hideous. I feel for her poor bastard husband.

>>375666964
I will still take a Triple Stacker with extra sauce than a Soy Sunflower Salad any day.
Whatever floats your boat bro. Just hope you don't get all up in peoples faces and try to degrade other meat eaters like 90% of vegans do.

eating meat is really unhealthy. if only you would try it maybe you could find out for yourself. it IS disgraceful to eat meat, and disgusting and poisonous.

raw vegan here.

>>375667279
I guess I was, that's why it depends on the person. What can you eat to fulfill the loss of protein?

>>375666910

>being vegetarian generally makes you FATTER.
>I ate only snack foods

Let's review the facts:
You believe being a vegetarian will make you fatter because you were too stupid to eat things like vegetables so you ate eat only snack foods.
You believe the only way to get protein is to eat meat.
Ergo, you are a retard.

Some animals eat meat, its natural...we're animals...get over it. I dont give a fuck if theres another way

>>375667791
samecandy-ass

i ate meat the first 20 years of my life, and then i stopped for a few months, then i ate it again and i threw up. you dont know if something is bad for u unless u dont do it for a while. otherwise your body just becomes used to it.

>>375667602
Pigs and Cows and all these other animals that are to be eaten would be extinct by now if it wasn't for the human race keeping them for our food.

Humans are meant to eat meat, not whine and complain about it. Almost every animal has a predator on this planet, and we happen to be at the top of the food chain, stop being a whiney cunt.

eh, not all vegetarians like that. i fucking hate the ones that are, but my gf is a vegetarian, and not in obnoxious way. shell even steal the occasional bite of bacon from me

>>375664124
being vegan reduces grey matter so have fun with a smaller brain you vegecandy-assgots

>>375667595

Thats another thing that you candy-asss do that pisses normal people off. You act like we don't eat any vegitables or fruit at all. I eat a fucking ton of both, but also a ton of meat because I'm a beast. I'm not 300lbs of muscle though. On a human frame that would look rather freakish.

If god didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them from meat.
/thread.

>>375667791

get out of the internets, candy-ass

inb4 madbro

>>375667256
Hmm. I haven't done the appropriate research to be able to refute your claim, so I'll just say: wouldn't other animal products (i.e. Eggs) contain the required nutritional makeup to grow a healthy, young brain?

>>375668123
wrong roody-poo, get ur facts straight.

humans are born vegatarians.

>>375668206
>I'm not 300lbs of muscle though.
beta-detected

Obviously all else being equal you would want to minimise suffering as much as you could. Question is what would you feel comfortable with?
Perhaps you could eat more fish than other meat. Perhaps you could have "meat free mondays" or maybe, as many manage to, you could cut out meat altogether. Some then go further and wear non-leather shoes and so on. Every vegan still drives a car, even though animal products are used in the car tyres.
Clearly this isn't just a single stance where you say "I'm a vegetarian" and adopt a whole series of things you must do and mustn't do and must believe and cannot believe. It's just that we recognise you should aim to minimise suffering, and some of us decide that we can achieve this without much loss by dropping meat completely from our diets.

As for this business about vegans being annoying and ramming it down everyone's throat, I doubt it. I don't do that, and the veggies in my local veggie group don't do that. It could be that you meet one veggie in your life who is like that, and you don't really find out about all the other veggies, so that one sticks in your mind, or it could just be that this is a stereotype that people perpetuate while knowing it's not true.

you guys are making me hungry for some dead animal flesh

>>375668007
I know there are other ways, candy-assgot. What I'm saying is it's just not something you hop into out of no where. It's something to think about. Yes, it was a stupid move. Whatever.

>>375667991
Legumes, nuts, etc. =3

Also, like I said, mixing incomplete proteins.

>>375668206

Vegetarian here. I get pissed off when meat eaters presume I only eat broccoli and carrots all fucking day. So it's a problem for us all.

>Out last saturday night
>Hot girl is a vegetarian
>Have no chance with her
>Pelt her with chicken nuggets

foreveralone.jpg

Gentlemen.

Epic meal time.

That is all.

>>375667602
That's a fair point and I agree, but that's not the foundation of his argument.

It basically simplifies to this: being vegetarian is to boycott the meat industry by not buying meat products (without getting pedantic about what 'meat' is).

So if you would stick by your decision to not eat meat when you know it can't affect the industry at all, such as receiving an accidental piece of chicken in a salad, or a friend asks if you if you want to try some of their meaty meal, then why? What does that do other than promote your own self-righteous moral superiority?

I don't hate vegetarians, but the majority of 'boycott-vegetarians' either haven't thought it through properly or are just being self-righteous assholes.

>>375668332
totes explains why our ancestors started off eating meat, then integrated with foraging.

i smoke, drink, and do drugs. im also a vegan and could give a shit about humanity

>>375668123
The implication that we'd want to perpetuate the meat industry, and all the suffering and misery and waste of resources that involves, for the cold stat of a species technically surviving, is ridiculous.

Second bit is naturalistic fallacy.

IM GONNA GO EAT SOME RIBS RIGHT NOW LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1028854/How-strict-vegan-diet-children-ill.html

lol vegans gona veg

Not overeating on meat and generally eating as much as one's body needs is the best choice for earth. Fact.

>>375668206
I would never act like or even say that a meat-eater doesn't eat vegetables or fruit. That's just silly. =O

the only thing worse than vegans is nigs and sand nigs

Proud vegan checking in.

See you later.

>>375667991
i buy "super charger" from a master herbalist, i eat wayyyyy more protein then any meat eater does daily. Way more.

tldr: learn ur shit

>>375668123
>Pigs and Cows and all these other animals that are to be eaten would be extinct by now if it wasn't for the human race keeping them for our food.
actually it's the opposite
you see there are 100s, sorry, there WERE 100s of breeds of pigs... but only one was the best at producing meat.
so farmers killed all the other breeds so they infect the pure bred farm-type pig who is bread for meat
this is part of the reason why pig meat especially is so bad in large amounts because it has no genetic diversity
so because of humans 100s of breeds of pig... GONE! forever :/

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>>375668615
supply and demand. It makes such mistakes less likely to happen in future.

Also why do people use the argument that it's healthier.
Even if it was, normal people don't focus their entire life around health. That'd be so fucking dull and pointless. Enjoy life and fucking live a little.l

meat is addictive and unhealthy. end of story. if you disagree you are uneducated. later.

I too hate vegans. They're like exponential hipsters or something. I just want to hit them until they agree to stop.

I'm a vegetarian but I don't preach to people about it or make them feel guilty, I don't really mention it, I hate the people who do all that shit though, they really annoy me too OP

Wil Wheaton is fat and a vegetarian.
HOW THE FUCK do you GET FAT by eating ONLY LETTUCE?!

Yeah vegetarians are weak and pathetic, like this guy.
http://www.vegan-fighter.com/vegan-fighters.html

>>375669074
>>375669074
>>375669074
This X100 proves that today OP wasn't a Faggot

>>375669209
Your chances of obesity are halved with vegetarianism, your chances of diabetes are reduced by 70%

>>375667611
That's because she's probably one of those dumbasses that eats like shit, vegan cookies, vegan doughnuts, veggie burgers, fries, oreos all fucking day. Things that are technically "vegan" because they're free of animal products, but are still unhealthy. I am a vegan and I eat a super balanced, healthy diet and I used to eat like shit like your fat acquaintance too.

I always hear, "I went vegan for a month and got really sick and had to stop." That's because you went around eating processed, packaged shit labelled "vegan" rather than just eating fruits, veggies, nuts, legumes, healthy grains, etc.

gotta love the vegans and vegetarians that dont know that they are killing brain cells so you will suffer from alzheimer's from a earlier age then meat eaters you mad vegecandy-asss?

>>375668615
It's a matter of principle. It's a part of an animal that's dead, now. Which, admittedly, is sentimental, but hey, I'm okay with that. =P

On the other hand, I would have no problem with people who ate animals that were legitimately accidental, i.e. roadkill--that wasn't, you know, on purpose.

>>375669271

lol he looks like a candy-assgot.

vegans are fucking retards, 99% of them are fucking hippies who never do a days work in thier lives, thankfully im working out so im eating at least 5 times the amount of meat i used to take that you vegan fuckfaces

>>375669580
>never met a vegan

if i wanted to protest against someone that would be fatasses

they eat 2x the meat and grains a normal person eats

and still, everyone is so sensitive about them

i'm an vegetarian
and i most of the time just keep it quiet until someone asks
and try to avoid eating at other people for awkwardness
but i never force anyone to be it too, it's your own choice
still i think most of the meat industry is wrong if your going to eat meat
atleast don't be a pussy and humanly kill it yourself.
so OP you're just a massive candy-assgot.

>>375669074

>>375669791

There is a cure for your disease. It's called not being a candy-ass lololol.

Vegetarians that act like pretentious douches. I hate them too, they give vegetarians a bad name.

>MFW I'm vegetarian, don't care what others eat in front of me or criticize what goes down a food hole

>>375669791
animals killed inhumanly? they are shot through the head with a 6inch steel spike which killed them instantly

>>375668950
actually it's the opposite
you see there are 100s, sorry, there WERE 100s of breeds of pigs... but only one was the best at producing meat.
so farmers killed all the other breeds so they infect the pure bred farm-type pig who is bread for meat
this is part of the reason why pig meat especially is so bad in large amounts because it has no genetic diversity
so because of humans 100s of breeds of pig... GONE! forever :/

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>mfw I just reproduced his message without permission. come and "persude" me fa­ggot.

this is real meat you vegan pussies.

they're not actually 100% healhty. vegetarians need to take pills to compensate for not eating meat.

with that, they are healthier than 4channers in general, though.

>>375670083
way to get 4chan taken down ASSHOLE

>>375670074
Nah /b/ro
Most of the killing is mechanised now. The idea that slaughterhouses would waste time on a method to reduce the suffering involved in the killing is ludicrous.

>>375669074
>>375669074
>>375669074
>>375669074

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

MEAT IS MURDER!! ... tasty, tasty murder... mmmmmm

its just so RETARDED to eat meat its just really hard to NOT tell meateaters what they are doing is KILLING THEMSELVES..........
in 1000 years, nobody will be eating meat anymore.

>They're weak and pathetic.

They have the willpower to stop eating meat...

>>375669702

i used to have one as a flatmate in my first year of uni. 27, never had a job and batshit insane with a fat horrible girlfriend that looked like a man. he preached on about how evil society was and the feelings of chickens all day every day. i used to put ground meat into some of his candy-ass veggie foods when he wasnt around for the lulz

Hey, vegetarian here. I don't run around saying it, I just mention it to a host if I'm eating there and offer to bring/prepare my own stuff. Most people are cool with it.
I'm a veggie because it's no longer necessary to kill animals to survive, so I don't want to.
In a way it IS a boycott of the meat industry-
>"accidental piece of chicken in a salad, or a friend asks if you if you want to try some of their meaty meal"
To answer that, if I find chicken in a salad (or as is more often the case, meat in a pizza) I complain to the company that provided it to me. Usually get new one free/money back, which I think is fair because I paid for a 'faulty' product.
Also, I'm about average build. I hit the gym every now and then, and I'm on the uni swim squad so I think my health is fine. Plus studying at uni, so I guess my brain's fine...
Sup?

Humans are not meant to eat meat.

>>375669791
>>375669791
Funny you say that. Your a good little Vegan. A quiet Vegan. And a quite vegan is a good vegan, if there are such things. Had this Bat-Shit crazy old lady with like 4 Vegan Pins come to work the other day and started spouting all that Vegan BS to me at my register.
Needless to say I took a big handful of my Beef Jerky and ate it in front of her.
They STILL disgust me.

ITT we anecdotal evidence. That is ALL.

>>375670272
that is the 6inch steel spike you retard

I'm vegetarian, and have a few friends that are actually.
I don't press it upon people because it's my choice.
I'll help people who want to make the choice, but I don't make people feel guilty.
That's obnoxious.
I know I'm not healthy. I eat shittier than most people. haha.

if vegan pussies hate me at so much then why are there so many meat imitation products?

go google Mimi Kirk

>>375668202

Being Vegan does no such thing. A lack of protein can, however if you eat properly it can be perfectly healthy.

Not saying im pro/anti vegan. But at least get your facts straight.

>>375670490
what would you need evidence for? Vegetarianism etc. is a moral matter.

>>375670348
wow, super original argument bro. You should now tell the one about PETA standing for "People Eating Tasty Animals." Then you can move on to the classic, "If god didn't want you to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?"

Slow clap for you and your originality

>>375670074
Bitch, 1/3 times they miss and the animal is still alive
and struggeling so they have to do it again.

and besides that 80% of the animals are being
abused before they die, they stuff them with food like americans
and when ready to die they can't walk anymore so they throw the animal
around and kick them to make them walk.

gtfo ignorant prick.

>>375670074
Um... No. Sorry. They have to be stunned, -then- killed. And that's assuming they're being killed at a non-kosher slaughterhouse. There aren't many of those. You should look on youtube for kosher slaughterhouse practices. Or just 'Kosher Slaughterhouse.' =<

who the fuck doesnt eat meat because of moral reasons? thats just stupid and i really doubt that that many people do it because of that reason.

eating meat is fucking poison lol

>>375670366
>>375670366
>>375669074
>>375669074

>>375670476
>implying humans don't have teeth and a digestive system clearly designed for handling meat as well as vegetation.

I'm married to a vegetarian. She cooks some of the best damn shrimp I've ever had.

>>375670479
>implying I'd be angry if you put disgusting, processed beef jerky through your colon to try to get back at me.
>MFW you're on the toilet later

OP is a candy-ass. the end

>>375670592
this is a counter how exactly?

You seem to think animals are killed by one person carefully positioning a spike at each animal in turns head and killing it quickly and effectively. That's laughable.

>>375670644
I don't hate meat. I love meat. It's delicious and versatile and great and all. =3

But... you have to kill animals for it. And I hate that. =<

this is the good shit OP

>>375670705

NEWSFLASH:

no one gives a flying fuck about stupid fucking farm animals except pussy vegans

I have one rule: If I can kill it, I can eat it.

>>375670788
lol u got me.
i speak truth though

real men hunt their own food.


/thread

>>375670751
>has never watched Earthlings

>>375670476
> humans
> built for long distance walking/running
> regarded by every living creature to be a threat
> capable of ingesting nearly any animal matter that isn't meant to be poisonous
> incapable of ingesting many kinds of vegetable matter
> first choice in domesticated animals were horeses and wolves, some of the few animals capable of matching our long distance capabilities
> so they could accompany us on HUNTS
> analytic brain and wide-range visual acuity
> perfect for predicting animal behavior sight-unseen and tracking without need for olfactory abilities
> binocular, depth-oriented vision seen almost exclusively in predators and tree dwellers
> non-grasping feet and comparatively weak upper-body strength, so no tree dwelling
> not meant to eat meat
Nigger, humans are finely honed pursuit predators. It's unnatural for us to NOT eat meat.

>>375670479

Hey who made this thread? A vegan attacking meat eaters or a Meat eater attacking vegans?

I don't really care who eats what but the fact of the matter is that i see these threads more than the reverse.

(Not the person you've been talking to)

>>375670860
>>375670860

Well yeah because we evolved eating meat. But now were smart enough so where as animals don't have to die just for us to survive.

>>375671070
Why don't you? =<

>>375670644
That's the stupidest shit I've heard in a while.
Vegetarians and vegans don't stop eating meat because they don't like the taste. (most anyway)
They stop because they don't like the idea of animals dying dumbass.

>>375671070
seems unlikely. All else being equal, you would want to minimise suffering would you not?

this says it all

There is no reason to argue about that meat producing animals are horribly treated. It is a fact.

If a dog was kept in the same conditions as a pig - which is intellectually equal to or exceeds a dog - people would cause a riot.

Then again the number of people that needs to be supplied makes it imposible to have humanly raised and killed animals.

>>375671147
MOTHAFUCKIN DEER STEAK ALL DAY

>>375670751

I don't eat meat for the pure fact that animals have been proven to feel emotions.

>>375671147
Yeah, it's so manly to hide quietly and then ambush an eating animal with a powerful weapon.

If you wrestled it and killed it with your bare hands, I might agree with you, but you really think it's manly to hide like a bitch and surprise attack something with a projectile weapon?

ITT:
>veggies and vegans not giving a shit, explaining and understanding, keeping cool
>meaties getting mad

>>375671262
a better way of putting it is Humans are not meant to eat meat ANYMORE

Of course none of you candy-assgots even have the willpower to not eat meat.

>>375671307
Morale is man made. Animals don't care about eating other animals.

When it comes to animals, the general rule of thumb to follow is: The more they suffer, the better they taste.

>>375671520
has never tried to wrastle down still-alive dinner with a knife after a poor hit.

>>375671544
This

>>375671602
Is morality man-made? Most philosophers would disagree with you there.

Still, the fact that animals don't care is pretty irrelevant. If you want to be consistent, and walk around everywhere naked throwing faeces at walls then go for it, but humans have developed thinking capabilities that allow us to reason on things like moral grounds.

>>375671147

'Real men' who hunt their own food would find no pleasure in taking the life of an animal.

MFW people hunt for the sake of killing, not procuring food.

How to define a vegan:
Someone who loves animals and still eat all their food

I really don't care about the ethical arguments, there are three reasons I don't eat meat/dairy very often:
1. Huge demand has made quality become shit. Look at the way feedlots are run; I would rather have quality once a week than shit every day.
2. Some of the food going to animals could be feeding a lot of people.
3. Green house gasses.

>>375671544
>not having a logical argument as to why they should continue other than "cause it taste good"

If I would come into an emergency situation, I even would have no problem with eating people.

>>375671602
Yes, but we've (probably) evolved past the brute instinct of non-humanity and can choose to ignore 'Human Nature.' That's what's awesome about being human. =3

i blame modern society for vegans/veggies, in the past these types of candy-assgots would have been killed by other tribes or in battle, or would have simply been cast away at birth. instead we have to put up these cunts and give them a decent standard of living so they can afford the luxury of crying about the feelings of animals and telling us how evil we are. i say we just shoot all the vegans/veggies out thier and use them for meat, it will solve all world problems.

>>375671813
killing a wounded animal... yeah, seems like a fair match.

>>375671938
Virginia colonist detected

>>375670918
>>375670918
Wow, a quiet Vegan who can't even read properly. My post was not aimed at you or your many problems, but at that lady. She was making a point towards me, and I made a point back. Not to spite her of course, just standing strong.
What an R-tard you are son :[

>>375671602

Because their intelligence is lower than ours. However just because something has a lower intelligence does not mean that its life is less valuable.

How is "I act like less evolved animals do" a good thing?

>>375671851

Name some of the philosophers who say, that morale is not man made. Name only one. I don't know any one. Kant f.e. is the typical example for the opposite.

>>375671923
>2. Some of the food going to animals could be feeding a lot of people.

>Implying the food going to feed animals would be going to "a lot of people" if it weren't being used to feed animals.

every vegan i've ever met looks thin and sickly from malnutrition.

>>375671851

But humans are still animals.

>>375672043
In the past, people who wanted to spend hours making fa­ggy comments and laughing at recycled images would have been killed long before vegans.

>>375672043

Because it takes a real man to eat the meat that you can so easily buy at any grocery store than have the bad ass will power to stop eating meat? Yeah that sounds about right.

>>375672189
John Locke, St. Thomas Aquinas, Thomas Hobbes, to name a few.

I'm glad there are so many candy-assgot vegetarians and moralcandy-asss. I wish more people would become vegetarians. More delicious meat for me

you're as bad as some fundamentalist christian candy-ass trying to force your opinion on everybody. some people just don't want to eat meat. as long as they don't try to tell you how to eat, who the fuck cares. in conclusion, OP is a candy-assgot.

>>375672293

"I base my judgments about an large group of individuals by my experiences with less than 1% of them"

>>375672338
But we operate differently--that is to say, we are not bound by the restraints of instinct. We can choose to do things that we wouldn't ordinarily do. But more, we can do so preemptively.

>>375672293
That's because they probably don't know how to do it right. There are many unhealthy foods that are technically "vegan". It takes a bit more effort to be a healthy vegan just as it takes a bit more effort to be a healthy omnivore. I wouldn't consider an average citizen to be a healthy omnivore. I would consider the farmer's market shopping, gym-going, local buying person to be a healthy omnivore.

>>375672479
>the bad ass will power to stop eating meat

There's nothing bad ass about it, and it doesn't take much will power at all.

>>375672338
Not with the gift of reason, intelligence and opposable thumbs were not

>>375672189
philpapers survey found 56% of modern philosophers tend towards moral realism:
http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl

was source for my statement.

WHOOOO GIVES A FLYING FUCK YOU FAGGOTS.
LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY FUCKING WANT AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT STUPID BULLSHIT LIKE THIS WHEN YOU COULD BE FOCUSING ON SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY WORTHWHILE
JEEEEZZZZUS CEEERIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!
DFAGSHJFKASI;GJOHEIMKPFOAWEJIFUHYEKML

the human race is doomed anyway. we'll go extinct here on Earth. and the universe will be better off because we are such petty creatures.
Well done.

>>375672338
yeah. I put the distinction in because of the obvious mountain of difference with regards to intelligence.

>>375672497
Teehee! Are these all Christian philosophers? Because saying that morality is God-made is funnily ineffective. Because God is man-made. =3

>>375672497
John Locke
St. Thomas Aquinas
Thomas Hobbes

Are all man, so i.e. morality is man made. q.e.d.

>>375672688
I bet you you couldn't go a week without meat. much less on your own accord.

>>375672497
Wow, did you really just list Thomas A fucking quinas to support your shitty ideology?

Please get the fuck out.

>>375672933
Just stop now while you're ahead. For fuck's sake, if you have to ask if about the religious affiliations of three of the most prominent thinkers in the history of western philosophy, you are in over your head on this subject matter.

>>375672751

candy-ass

>>375672719
man made definition - we eat, breathe, shit and fuck like animals

>eat meat
>evolve to current state
>stop eating meat
>devolve

Vegetarians want to wreck humanity!

>>375673127
That was someone else. I cited the philpapers survey. One modern philosopher who is a moral realist but also an atheist would be Peter Millican at Oxford uni.

>>375673138
I knew John Locke and Thomas Hobbes. St. Thomas Aquinas I didn't, though. Which is why I said 'All' and why I assumed Christian. =3

Hating vegetarians is perfectly natural since most of them are self-righteous and arrogant about it and like you to know that they think they occupy a higher moral ground than the rest of us. I'm sure there are some who aren't like this but they are in a small minority and so are inevitably tarred with the same brush. Vegetarians should thrown into a lion pit to see how fucking grateful the animal kingdom is on their moral stance.

Vegetarian here.

Honestly, I don't give a fuck whether you eat meat, that's up to you. I decided I don't agree with it, but I understand that the human body can digest (and is adapted to, in fact) it. Idgaf do what you want, if you ever change your mind about eating animals, come talk I'll tell you some nice veggie recipes.

Enjoy your steaks.

>Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein

Not like he was smart or anything - who was only FUCKING EINSTEIN!

>>375673235
can an animal use a computer?

>>375673241
If anything, the waste of resources that the meat industry represents would mean that vegetarians are, of all people, doing the most to help humanity.

>>375673241

>Die when you get sick
>evolve to current state
>Go to hospital when you get sick and live
>devolve

Fucking modern medicine is ruining humanity!

>>375672167
Fuck you pussy, I don't give half a shit about the feelings about animals. all they do is keep my meet fresh until dinner. And for every other self respecting human out there, What is your favorite animal to eat in a barbaric fasion? mine is elk

Completely normal to hate them. Now, they aren't ALL like that, I know... uh... like 3 that are pretty cool. The rest, I want to purge them with fire.

>>375673493
What you just said seems highly unlikely. All else being equal, if you could choose between more suffering for animals or less, people would choose less.

fuck atheists! look! i smoke pot!!! Find something new to talk about, retards.

>>375673386
That guy was a physicist. What would he know about the subject at hand?

Here is another nobody moron talking about meat:

>Truely man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men. ~Leonardo da Vinci

some time ago they discovered that plants can have fear they sense people that are hostile toward them and remember who is who.
+ do they even know the farmers that own the land stolen the land from the animals so they can plant there stinken veggies and poison it so no other plants can be grown except the veggies.
save the carrots eat the rabbits

>>375673493
we dont have elk here, so i have to settle for deer. i still love a good piece of pork though.

>>375673127
What? No. Wait, what? The one anon asked -- stupidly and incredulously -- what philosopher believed morality wasn't man made. I listed three natural law philosophers (all three of whom differ significantly in their individual interpretations of natural law theory) in response. As anyone even the slightest bit familiar with the ongoing debate that exists over morality and ethics in philosophy would have done.

And, to further my point, it hardly matters that Aquinas based his interpretation of natural law on divine source (many would argue that his naturalism was couched in these terms primarily because of the prevailing politics of his age) he still fits the description asked for. And even if he didn't, Locke and others would fit the description. A most basic reading of naturalist philosophy requires only reason to be the starting point. It's true that we are only aware of ourselves as being able to reason, but that does not preclude the existence of reason beyond ourselves.

>>375673399
your definition of being not an animal is using a computer?? really??

>>375673734
*facepalm*

GTFO

>>375673779
Um... Plants do not have complex nervous systems. They don't have brains. They don't have nerves. They can't 'remember' people because there's nowhere to store that information. =\

However, if you cite your sources, I'd be very interested to read the paper.

the world would be a better place if all vegans were murdered

>>375674104
...says the namecandy-ass

>>375674062
These sorts of studies are universally done to demonstrate the potential weaknesses of one experimental type or other.

>>375673399
The main difference between us and animals is the fact that we learned to use and enhance tools at a very fast rate.

I was a vegetarian for about a month. Didn't even tell anyone I was doing it. Shit sucked though. Don't do it.

>>375674104
"anyone who has kids should be shot"

you are concerned about overpopulation and possibly a lack of resources.

Vegans do the best in this regard.

>>375673902
That we cannot disprove it is not proof of it. =\

Been vegan for 12 years

Don't have any tattoos or lobe stretchers

Read a shit ton of philosophy books by interest

Psychology degree

Don't help torture animals. Yes it is actual torture, by dictionary definition.

Like to play games

Hate parties

Feels good being an honest CRESCENT FRESH guy

>>375674307
wow, a whole month. You must have learned so much in that whole month to make your experience less shitty. MFW after ten years of vegetarianism, I learned a whole lot of new information and went vegan... been vegan for 5. Still learning new shit.

It's not really the vegetarians/vegans that are the evil it's the hipsters that represent most of them. I know a couple people that are and it's not really a big deal they just don't eat meat.

>>375674225
Ooooooh. That makes sense. =3

>>375674041
>haha what an idiot
>now I'm going to ask a biology teacher about economics!

Trolling but still...

I'm the best cook out of all my friends and im a vegetarian. Guess who the motherfuckin grill master is son? Yours truly.

>>375674225

i've seen a few crazy people making similar claims, one guy i was arguing with about consciousness/neuroscience was claiming that plants have consciousness and that proves consciousness doesn't require a brain..fucking idiots seriously.

Try having vegetarian Jew neighbors.

I'm vegetarian for the simple reason that I don't like the taste of meat.
Never have.
I don't give a fuck whether you eat it or not, just don't force your shit on me and I won't force my shit on you.

>>375673902

but they are still people and define morality, so it is man-made.
Oh, and btw - that tone makes so many people hate vegetarians and vegans :D

>>375674407

>>375669791
if you're going to eat plants dont be a pussy and get them yourself, do you know how flawed you're logic is? the meat industry is no different from a company that sells fruits, your too lazy to grow the fruits yourself so you simply go buy it at a store. not to mention a multitude of other facters such as zoning laws that make it impossible to have stock animals in certain areas. l2logic

If animals had a problem with us eating them, they'd say something about it.
So until cows with guns start rising in the midwest, I'm going to enjoy steak.

>>375664124

OP, you're right about people making you feel guilty being dicks, but you got a limited perspective. Try being a vegetarian for a month. People will act like shitbags to you for no reason.

Someone making you feel guilty? That's not because they're weak. That's because YOU'RE weak. Get your principles sorted out, and if someone's acting like a dick, treat them like a dick. Hating people for the wrong reason, or hating the wrong people for the right reason makes YOU pathetic.

inb4 someone thinks I'm a vegetarian

>>375674520
this. my neighbor is a vegetarian, and i hunt. we get along fine, she doesnt try to make me a vegetarian, i dont try to make her eat meat. you wanna deprive your body of meat? good for you. keep it out of my face.


only thing, i feel bad because she made her kids vegetarians, damn 3 year old doesnt even know what meat is...

>>375674707
>>375674707
>>375674707

HOLY SHIT I'd move out asap.

>>375674561
Is your biology teacher technically a genius?

>>375674707
Yeah, it must suck to see them over there... being all jewish and vegetarian. It sounds awful. You probably have to watch them pull their mini van into the driveway and carry Whole Foods bags into their house. How do you cope?

So it's disgraceful to not farm and murder animals and eat them?

How would you feel if aliens did that to us, they abduct you, paralyse you, are far more intelligent than you, study and ahrvest your organs. That feeling of fucking helplessness. If aliens did that to humans you'd quickly be changing your attitude alright.

Vegans that rub it in your face are obnoxious, yeah. But vegans that keep it to themselves, nothing wrong with it.

I'm a carnivore because It's cheaper.

>Shoot durr in the face with .22lr
>Food for 5 months at a cost of .02

I bet vegetarians don't even grow their own food, potatoes, squash, turnips, carrots, I grow all of them. They just can't stop eating disgusting soy or tofu.

Brotip vegetarians: Grow duckweed.

>>375674407
ANY OTHER ANIMAL could eat it and its ok with you fucks and when a human wants to eat anything but plants it suddenly its 'too far' learn2naturalorder. learn2foodchain. learn2omnivore.

maybe your contrived 'ethics' is worthless here

>>375673734
He was also a renowned philosopher.

>>375667595
go look at a gorilla meatcandy-asss
they have incisors and shit and 300lbs of muscle... THEY DONT EAT MEAT
get it?
muscle from protien (in plants HURR i know that's not what you thought was possible but it is DUR)
incisors for getting thru root veg like carrots and tough stuff.

the only reason we EVOLVED to eat meat was a SURVIVAL trait (thats why you feel lethargic+crap after as it's not our primary food source)
people who couldn't eat meat during times of crop problems and water shortage would die. hence most ppl today can eat meat.

in the current society (especially with highly automated farming) it's stupid to eat meat

also you'l have more energy if you eat veg and fruit and just feel better

what's your problem try it for yourself if you dont believe me!

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I just add stole your shit and added it to my veggie blog. Sue me, retard.

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>>375666964
why do you put a dick and balls after everything you type?

I hate it when some fat fuck complains about me smoking.

>>375674062
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_perception_%28paranormal%29
http://www.skepdic.com/plants.html
i could be wrong though...