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  • hi friends, let's chat!

    edit: THANKS FOR THE CHAT BROS <3

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    16 KB Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:21:49 No.355095564  
    Gamerfags, report in I need your input. /v/ failed me but I didn't give the full story

    I am opening a game store by the end of October. The only competition within 15 miles is Gamestop and Wal-Mart. Basically we are carrying classic games, appearal, soundtracks, and obviously new and used titles.

    We are also putting in 4 game "pods" with 46" TVs and gamer chairs w/ playstation 3 and 360 in separate individual rooms. Was wondering you guys' input on how those will do renting them out at an hourly rate.

    I hate gamestop and always have. Nobody goes to gamecrap to "browse", only to get what they came for and leave. They don't carry classic games or fun stuff, and the employees are rude, hipster, "I'm awesome since I work at gamecrap" assholes.

    I want to know what your DREAM game store would be. For gamers by gamers, not some corporate shithole that is there to take your monies. the bank loan goes through on Monday so I can start ordering everything. I could really use your input!!!

    tl;dr - What would be your perfect video game store?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:26:11 No.355095994
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    buy all my pre owned shit for more than i bought them for K thanks goodnight
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:26:29 No.355096021
    doomed to fail. enjoy your bankruptcy
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:26:53 No.355096061
    as long as you dont open the fucking games and then say they're "new" im ok with this.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:27:37 No.355096123
    One wall dedicated to Battletoads.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:28:12 No.355096191
    what you gonna call you shop
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:28:12 No.355096193
    do u have battletaods?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:29:07 No.355096291
    Buy old game systems and stuff that gamestop doesn't carry en masse.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:30:29 No.355096437
    >>355095994

    We're def giving a bit more than GS for used games

    >>355096021

    Explain?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:33:30 No.355096784
    >>355096191
    Can't tell you for obvious reasons, but it's catchy as fuck.

    >>355096123
    You're goddamn right
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:33:39 No.355096798
    not that guy but definitely doomed to fail. watched it happen many times. electricity costs will be mad $$$$ and unless your advertising is awesome you wont even get noticed.

    protip: keep your store WELL LIT AND BRIGHT, super clean, and family friendly. your clientele won't be cool dudes your age it will be middle school and high school nerds so you need to appeal to mommys and dadz
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:34:42 No.355096929
    My dream has always been to open a LAN center, arcade, game, card game store all in one. You could come in hang out, play arcade games, pc, console, and card games all in the same place. its a fuckin nerd paradise. do it for me op.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:38:56 No.355097417
    >>355096021
    >>355096437

    Not >355096021, but I agree with him.

    My dad used to own a LAN center about 6 years ago. It was very similar to what you described and within a year it failed. The problem was that the store's target audience was teenagers, and, as you should know, most teens are pretty much broke. My dad could never find a price that was cheap enough to attract people into the store, but high enough to pay the bills. He charged $4.00/hour at one point, and that was the cheapest he ever went

    Teenagers simply don't have that kind of money to spend. Think of it this way: When you were 15, would you have been willing to spend $5.00/hour to play a video game? In just 4 hours that's $20.00.

    TL;DR - Don't do it, you'll go bankrupt.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:39:27 No.355097482
    it sounds good, but stock more than just games. stock some comics and collectibles based around games, plus plenty of other nerdy items. carry some classic consoles and some classic games too. that would mos def be a place i would shop at.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:40:58 No.355097649
    >>355096798

    We have a couple thousand put back for advertising. We are also in a tourist town.

    >>355096929

    I've never been into the card scene. Do they actually sell?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:41:22 No.355097703
    where is this going to be located, also you should focus on weekly lan tournaments. Where I am we have nothing of the sort.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:42:26 No.355097861
    Get a HD projector and a room dedicated to it, most gamers dream of playing on a 160" screen, plus the projector will cost less than most 46" tv's It will make them drool and make you profit, at a rate of 25$ an hour and assuming it will be used once a day you will get a R.O.I in 2 months, after wich you will recive pure profit. Im talking a VIP gaming room. If you are in an area with more than 50k people and not within 300 miles of area code 575 ( my area ) It will work and we will get along nicely...
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:43:31 No.355098003
    >>355096291
    Also, as a hobby gamer, I would love to see bullet points on better titles.
    Example: Current favourite is Assassin's Creed franchise. Attach to display a note card underlining the depth of the glyph puzzles, the cinematic story line, and the comprehensive sandbox experience. Follow with counterpoints, like repetitive assassination missions.

    Also, you may lose some shallower parents, but stop carrying shitty movie games. Maybe recommend better kid-safe titles. See:Katamari, little big world/planet/whatever, any Nintendo proprietary franchise.

    Oh, and hire people who actually give a shit. Stupid idea: pick up one FPS player, one PCfag, one PS3/RPG elitist, and one hack n' slash per shift. Do away with commission, so when somebody asks for a recommendation, they get actual input.
    >> ♥ I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook - OFFICIAL PRINCESS OF /b/ <33 !!a5PESLOoKH4 09/24/11(Sat)15:44:50 No.355098170
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    Sell manga, comics, and anime!
    :3
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:45:19 No.355098221
    >>355098003

    Where i'm from that's $29 an hour at least just to have four people tell customers what to buy, that doesn't really seem too smart to me.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:45:23 No.355098231
    You should do it two ways.

    You will need a length of time for notice to rent out all or one of the pods. This would be for birthdays and shit. Keep a clear and concise calendar, one posted for people to make their plans with as well.

    The only real problem is consoles are cheap, and the games, used, can be as well. You have to offer something these guys can't get anywhere else. The best internet connection. The most comfortable chairs. You might even consider if someone rents it our for an evening somehow adding the cost of some concessions into the price. Standard gamer fare of course (Mt. Dew, etc.)

    If you were offering top of the line PCs, you already are going above. You might, in the front area of the store, put a smaller TV (20ish range) with an old console or two up that is free. The big reason for this is that you want your store to always be occupied. No one wants to go into a game store that is meant to be a "social" place and find it empty.

    I don't even need to mention this, but I will. Tournaments. Don't just do the fucking Halo shit. Spread it out. Do Rockband, do time trials in racing games. Split it up enough, you'll get the mix. And if these will have prizes, advertise. Fuck TV, use radio. Get the college station if you have one, have them do a remote. Pay some college shmuck in "free" time on the game consoles if he spreads the word for you.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:46:13 No.355098353
    >>355098003

    I agree with his stupid idea
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:46:23 No.355098376
    >>355098170

    Why have you not died yet? Seriously. I told you to die the other day.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:46:57 No.355098433
    >>355097649

    Your biggest problem will be trying to find people who are both able and willing to "rent" out the Xbox360/PS3/Computer for $x.xx/hour.

    As I said, my dad owned a LAN center a few years ago. About 95% of the customers were teens/young adults. However, most of them simply did not have the means to afford playing at $5.00/hour.

    Think about it: If you were a broke teenager would you rather spend your money playing a game you don't own for $5.00/hour, or buy the game for $60.00? In just 12 of "renting" it you could just buy the game. Sure, the atmosphere of playing in a LAN center is cool, but it's not economically feasible.

    Don't do it man.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:47:00 No.355098437
    This is the first and foremost determining factor when it comes to the success of your store: regardless of the fact that you have no competition within the immediate area, have you stopped to wonder if there is enough clientele? Maybe that's why no corporate stores have been opened nearby, because they don't see potential for business in your area. You've gotta understand, that unless your area is well populated, corporate giants are always scoping for the best locations to open their stores.

    Good indications of whether it's an area with potential buyers are things like:

    1. Are there new malls or shopping centers open or opening in your area?

    2. Is the area bustling with apartment complexes and/or neighborhoods?

    Doesn't matter how awesome your store is, if there is no one to appreciate it and buy shit.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:47:01 No.355098441
    >>355097417

    Lan centers are different than these gaming "pods" IMO. There is a campground and resort within walking distance as well. You make a very good point on the paying money to play games. However, I can't base my income on those. After the initial investment is made back, ANY time spent on the pods is pure profit regardless how much I charge. I will make my money off the stock.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:47:18 No.355098472
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    >>355096123
    this.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:47:37 No.355098510
    Make a room dedicated to LAN gaming that people can play in for free - but drinks and snacks cost an arm and a leg...?

    Also, play some music in the background, but no hipster shit.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:48:39 No.355098650
    My perfect gamestore? Steam.
    >> ♥ I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook - OFFICIAL PRINCESS OF /b/ <33 !!a5PESLOoKH4 09/24/11(Sat)15:48:40 No.355098652
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    >>355098376
    People tell me to die every day, Anonymous!
    Especially in fires!

    You have to be more specific with how you want me to die, or I simply wont remember you. >.<.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:49:04 No.355098706
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    >Asking what should be in store
    >Doesn't know what he will be putting in store
    >Says he already is approved for a Bank Loan with basically no business model
    >MFW
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:49:31 No.355098750
    >>355098652

    Just simply die already.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:50:31 No.355098870
    Future is in digital game copies. Way to live in the past.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:51:10 No.355098934
    >>355098652
    stop giving this attention whore more attention, ignore this cunt, shell die on her own, that being said, more battletoads.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:51:17 No.355098944
    Get strippers, and red wine, in the gaming rooms. Get VIP room. Game le tits. Remaster all the old games and shit. GAME LE TITS
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:51:24 No.355098966
    >>355098706
    I'm glad you said it. I mean, how dumb can you be to be opening a store when you don't even know what your concept is?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:51:25 No.355098969
    >>355098652
    I want you to die from anal prolapse, I want someone to shove C4 up your ass and stuff it up with a broom handle and when it's well into your small intestine it they detonate it leaving you alive long enough just to feel the pain of dying slowly.
    >> ♬♬ All Bernkastel wants to see is a sky full of lighters ♬♬ !hEpdoZ.tHU 09/24/11(Sat)15:52:04 No.355099031
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    >>355098652
    go die in a blue fire you worthless sack of lard
    RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE
    >> ♥ I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook - OFFICIAL PRINCESS OF /b/ <33 !!a5PESLOoKH4 09/24/11(Sat)15:52:22 No.355099062
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    >>355098750
    I can't just die because I want to!

    :3 Come on, Anonymous, be creative!
    Tell me a creative way to die, or to kill myself!
    also @ thread
    OP, free wifi, and tables and stuff so they can use their laptops there.

    Everyone knows stores are more successful with free wifi!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:52:37 No.355099081
    a place that strictly pays cash for stuff brought in. and fair prices to boot.

    I wanted to trade in a bunch of games recently at gamestop for cash and the payout was so pathetic.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:53:51 No.355099232
    >>355099062

    read

    >>355098969


    attention whore must delivar
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:54:05 No.355099262
    >>355099062
    Your a candy-ass lol boy
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:54:18 No.355099276
    >>355098510

    get an account with Pandora IOne for music. No shitty radio, no dealing with royalties or any shit for mainstream, no shitty garage bands or anything to worry about. Just pick a few artists in a genre that gamers typically listen to and leave it on all the time.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:54:52 No.355099338
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944
    >>355098944

    Classy as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:55:00 No.355099350
    >>355099062
    Wait a minute.

    Germanfag, is that you?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:55:20 No.355099389
    >>355098441

    Another problem you're going to encounter is the fact that Xbox Live/PSN basically offer the exact same thing you do.

    Are a group of 4 friends who all own Black Ops at home really going to go out to a LAN center to play at $5.00/hr each? They can play with each other from home over Xbox Live.

    You'll basically have to offer something WAY outside of what they have at home to keep them coming back:
    -Expensive leather chairs
    -Extremely fast internet
    -Free drinks
    -Separate tv screens (face it, nobody's going to want to play with 4 other people on 1 screen, no matter how big it is)
    >> ♥ I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook - OFFICIAL PRINCESS OF /b/ <33 !!a5PESLOoKH4 09/24/11(Sat)15:55:36 No.355099417
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    >>355098934
    The C word isn't nice, Anonymous! Let's refrain from using it. >.<.

    >>355098969
    But who's going to put the C4 in my -whispers- butthole?

    Illogical, Anonymous!

    >>355099031
    Oh, fake Bern. >.<..

    >>355099262
    D: I don't know what that sentence means..

    >>355099350
    Maybe, maybe not!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:56:12 No.355099496
    >>355095564
    Install gloryholes
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:56:39 No.355099533
    >>355095564
    Gamestop. Why? I get what I want and leave. Good luck pushing enough volume to make a profit.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:56:43 No.355099547
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    >>355099496
    THIS ONE MILLION TIMES THIS
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:56:45 No.355099552
    >>355098231

    There's going to be a 56" tv from the ceiling with a wii and other consoles behind the cash rap plus 2 27" on each side with other classic consoles. Thanks for your awesome input.
    I didn't think of offering PCs, so thanks. We'll look into that!

    for anyone who doesn't know, you don't make SHIT off new consoles. 3-4 bucks max, that includes gamecrap. They make their money off used games.

    >>355098433

    as I said, I've got a large campground near by with kids stuck on vacation with stupid parents in a camper with nothing to do. However, you're very right. I'm hoping that it being a tourist town that these kids will have money to blow on that.

    >>355098437 Our area is huge. I'm really suprised there isn't more game stores around. Seriously. Also, there is a large popular outlet mall nearby
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:57:22 No.355099632
    I've only had one experience with game rooms.
    In a place called game frog...or something like that.

    The most irritating thing about the whole situation was that the room was so crowded.
    So be sure to put some sort of limit on the number of people in the room, and also keep the playing areas separated.

    Another thing was for some reason, they felt the need to blast music, so loud that I couldn't hear my game, and ended up just quitting.

    Another thing I hated was that my controller kept dying while I was playing. I got up after my game of Slayer on Halo 3 and, when I got back some kid was in my seat acting and being a douche. so wired controllers are a must.

    Also, comfy office chairs, the swivel and roll.

    Keep the TV screens at eye level so that no one is straining their neck to look up at the screen, like the display games at walmart.

    but the concept is great. just make sure you take in consideration the things I mentioned, and you should be just fine.
    >> JosephMontgomery !!+ZIq4bgXAe9 09/24/11(Sat)15:57:28 No.355099641
    >>355099062
    Hey, watched School Rumble, FUCKING LOVE IT
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:57:37 No.355099658
    i like the idea. what you should consider is allowing gamers to try out a game for free before they buy it. this way you will give a reason to use those rooms and people will be more willing to stay in the store. the longer their in the store the more money you make.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:57:45 No.355099690
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    OP

    In your store, play classic video game music.

    Picture it, browsing games while listening to awesome fucking classic music. Cheetahmen, Silver Surfer, Pokemon RBY, Ninja Gaiden, etc. That would be fucking awesome.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:58:18 No.355099759
    >>355099417
    Just fuck off take the band out of your name you trapcandy-ass
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:58:26 No.355099780
    >>355099632
    >>355099632
    I apologize my english is terrible
    >> ♬♬ All Bernkastel wants to see is a sky full of lighters ♬♬ !hEpdoZ.tHU 09/24/11(Sat)15:58:28 No.355099784
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    >>355099417
    fake bern you say?
    i am the real 57 year old basement dweller
    >> Kon: Master of the Konatas (Because someone said so) !ZEQEdAKUMA 09/24/11(Sat)15:59:10 No.355099877
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)15:59:47 No.355099959
    >>355098706

    I have a clear plan. I'm asking other opinions. It's called market analysis....
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:00:12 No.355100022
    Smash brothers tournaments.

    A HD projector in a room with 4 super confortable chairs and anti acoustic walls where you could rent for like 20$ an hour to play whatever 4 people want.

    Game related toys and dolls.

    Hire people that actually knows anything about games.

    Always have consoles turned on so random people can play for free.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:00:23 No.355100046
    >2011
    >still buy games in a physical store

    I seriously hope you guys don't do this!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:00:31 No.355100064
    >>355097703

    tournaments, contests, give aways - engage the people in the community
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:00:40 No.355100081
    have an option to rent games. I've been waiting for a store where you can buy AND rent games in the same store. Do that and sell it as a main point and You'd see a good number of customers, since the people that still go to gamestop, they don't go to other places because they don't see any difference. you can buy games at either place, but only your store is the one people can rent at as well (now that blockbuster is done).
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:00:51 No.355100114
    >>355099062
    You aren't bothering me, but I can think of a good way to kill you.
    Personally I'd prefer to abduct you with someone you care about, maybe a boyfriend. For the first day you'll watch while I hurt him.You'll be bound, very tightly. Including a collar that pinches, chokes and constricts every time you move or swallow or turn your head. This is going to take awhile so a saline drip may be necessary for you. I'll hobble him, cutting ligaments and tendons, taking off finger tips, maybe even sodomize him with something terrible. Perhaps an rough, splintering chair leg. Then I leave you bound while someone you care about bleeds out in the floor in front of you.
    I'd leave you somewhere that I could crack the windows and no one would notice the smell. Hopefully in a summer month, on a very hot day.
    The second day you'll watch the maggots start eating his eyes. There will be so many flies that their buzzing will fill your head like a chainsaw. There will be no relief from the horror of the sound of your loved one being consumed.
    Then, on the 3rd day I start on you.
    >> ♥ I Wrote Haikus About Cannibalism In Your Yearbook - OFFICIAL PRINCESS OF /b/ <33 !!a5PESLOoKH4 09/24/11(Sat)16:01:20 No.355100174
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    >>355099641
    :D!!! Yes!
    Did you watch both seasons already!?!

    >>355099759
    >Just fuck off
    Nopee.

    >Take the band name out of your name
    Ish my name now, Anonymous!

    >Trapcandy-ass
    Genderless!

    >>355099784
    Ish not nice to assume things about people, Anonymous. >.<.

    >>355099877
    Harro, Kon1.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:01:30 No.355100196
    >>355095564
    gamestop doesn't give royalties for used modern games, which is why the videogame industry hates them but at the same time they sell so many goddamn games.

    People tend to just emulate games these days and since classic games and game systems are on the verge of EOL (end of life) due to oxidation, not many are willing to spend money for games and systems that may fail within the next year or two.

    Perhaps instead of just selling games, you make it a hub to play games, kind of like an internet cafe except for gamers. Bonus points for an extra room for D&D / TCG players.

    Think of your typical karaoke layout (bunch of rooms) except meant for games.
    >> ♬♬ All Bernkastel wants to see is a sky full of lighters ♬♬ !hEpdoZ.tHU 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:07 No.355100265
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    assume? bitch please
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:07 No.355100267
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    Invite chris chandler on opening night!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:07 No.355100268
    Have a battletoads arcade box there, and have it so that if someone beats battletoads, they get a permanent 10% off storewide.

    Fuckers will be lining up to try and beat it, and cause it's an arcade game, you'll get some major moolah out of it.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:10 No.355100273
    >>355099417
    Fuckin attention whores damn
    >> Kon: Master of the Konatas (Because someone said so) !ZEQEdAKUMA 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:15 No.355100277
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    >>355100174
    Hey there Haiku.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:35 No.355100319
    You have to call it something along the lines of "Mother's Basement" if you want people to hang out there. It'd be pretty awesome hearing people talk about how cool it is to hang out in your "Mother's Basement".
    >> penis 09/24/11(Sat)16:02:51 No.355100350
    >>355100196
    namefagging for convenience now.

    also people tend to just go to flea markets for oldschool games so if there are flea markets around your area then that's probably where they are getting their old game fix
    >> Anonymous !7qLrSleeKA 09/24/11(Sat)16:03:23 No.355100412
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    Look at the photos on this page, its a game shop with a lan room in it. Make it look like their shop, with leds everywhere and wooden floor and comfy chairs, and host lan parties of you are bothered about getting recognition.


    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kustom-PCs/9508712735?sk=wall
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:03:40 No.355100453
    Carry Battletoads, prevents trollan
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:03:44 No.355100457
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    Soundtracks?..Already winning OP
    >> penis 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:10 No.355100516
    >>355100268
    brilliant!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:26 No.355100549
    >>355100174
    You're a fucking fag who want to be a girl give it up bro
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:34 No.355100565
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    >>355099784
    >>355099877
    >>355099417
    Finally realized that cunt and the people who do it with her are troll's

    9/10
    >> JosephMontgomery !!+ZIq4bgXAe9 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:35 No.355100573
    >>355100174
    Only the first few episodes, like 10 or something, but it's so good!
    Yakumo is my favourite character so far!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:44 No.355100591
    Open up a fuckin gamer campground.
    Bunch of rich college kids rent out this place, everyone gets their own little cabin to fuck and get drunk and play Reach in.
    When everyone is done, they go out and have a campfire and watch the football game on a tv fucking bolted to a tree.

    Beer/food/internet/cable/boats/lodging/etc included. Nowhere else like it in the world, the better you do it the more you make. Grats on being rich as fuck, send me some money thanks.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)16:04:49 No.355100594
    >>355099062
    NO WIFI FOR YOU!!!

    Seriously, unless you are going to nanny your customers, they're going to nosh your bandwidth, torrenting.

    You save cable setting up an encrypted router, but even a T3 can't handle 20-35 WOW-ers, plus torrents.

    Oh, and Haikus, as the only tripfag I remember in this re-incarnation, don't feed them. This is one of the first novel threads in a week. Let's do real discussion, or at least start a new thread for your petty squabbles.



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