bump for logic and reason

Yeah.. no.. we already know that.

But it's combined with the astonishing level of amorality that you find in London youth.

bumping

>>346501237
No it is because London is full of nigge­rs and you let you're white kid's mix with them, thus them becoming white nigge­rs

Canada lurkingfag here

Sounds like a personal problem. Don't come to /b/ to complain, fuck off and complain elseware. Sick of hearing about this.

>>346501696
this and Niggers. and Pakis. and Asians. enjoying multiculti and liberalism? How long till Shariah, Britain?

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

This is a direct result of women in the work force. If one parent was home with the kids, shit like this would never happen. In poor households, both parents have to work.

employers rip off employees + women's "rights"= fucked up kids + fucked up future

chav culture dude.

Lets face it, the English are just barbarians. Combine their usual dickheadedness with the nigerdiggery of blacks who were raised up around these thugs and you have worst roody-poos running amok.

Case in point. John Terry, world famous footballer, earns 200k+ a week in wages. His mum lives in a 2million pound house, yet gets caught for shoplifting. His dad gets caught on tape selling coke to some chav out in a shady bar.

Thats the culture. Thats what their folklore, history and shit is about.

>>346502056

You can't shout 'wogs' every time something happens and expect not to get laughed at. This would be happening anyway

Lol, Fox news just reported that they riot in the middle east for freedom, but they riot in the UK for flat screen TV's! I though everything you UK fags do is noble and and done for some great, educated, holier than thou reason? You are just a bunch of fucking dirty roody-poos with gay accents! Guess you don't feel so high and mighty now!

Apparently they're too busy looting to even notice, but...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/metropolitanpolice/6025489246/in/set-72157627267892973/

>>346502339
>>346502339
>>346502339

agreed. Mixing bad with bad will only result in worst

>you have people with no skills or qualifications looting the streets

Why didn't they learn in school? In my experience that's usually the types who only had girls and having fun on their mind. Everybody told them they wouldn't get the job, they didn't listen but were kicking stuff and getting high anyway.

>>346502339 Thats the culture. Thats what their folklore, history and shit is about.

... huh?

>Its that simple you morons.

look at the trained pavlovian dog barking. socio-economic problems have nothing to do WITH BEING NIGGER. goverment fucking pays them everything they need. scum just want to cause havoc

Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>346502710

> Fox news
> Fox
> news

I'm pretty sure people not being able to get jobs is a socio-economic issue.

>>346503064
Are you trying to say that people aren't stealing electronics?

OP your a spastickle.... You failed your degree and ate your ass to the chair so never looked for a decent job you witless douche

das kapital...

>>346503275

I'm implying that you're a moron.

>>346503060 scum just want to cause havoc

White people have just as many scum as black people.

Ergo, there is nothing inherent about being black that makes you more likely to be scum.

There is more correlation between poverty & crime than race & crime, and in fact there is probably more correlation between rap music & crime too.

Correlation =/= Causation.

>>346502710
It's you that has the accent mate.

Learn2history.

>>346503548
Why? Because I'm quoting something that is true? Are they stealing electronics or aren't they? Answer the question...

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

>>346503807

Because you watch Fox News.

Generational poverty breeds ignorance. When you row up living hand to mouth you have little chance for success. Yes there are exceptions...but very few. Meanwhile the wealthy have all the breaks for their kiddos. Give my boy a job, sure he is an idiot but hey he is my boy. Chuckle chuckle. This is just going to get worse. Better start giving the masses meds for depression to keep them cherie...oh we already do that. How about putting something in the water supply to keep the unwashed masses under control.

Case in point. Sand roody-poos may be the scum of the planet but at least they protest for freedom of exercise basic human rights in their country.

What the fuck are you protesting for? Jobs? Even after you get paid unemployment benefits for looking for jobs?

There is something deeply wrong with the system. Either that or people on earth are the same everywhere...take out the illusion of governance and their primal instincts start to kick in.

>>346503677
Trolled

Case in point. Sand roody-poos may be the scum of the planet but at least they protest for freedom of exercise basic human rights in their country.

What the fuck are you protesting for? Jobs? Even after you get paid unemployment benefits for looking for jobs?

There is something deeply wrong with the system. Either that or people on earth are the same everywhere...take out the illusion of governance and their primal instincts start to kick in.

>OP:people who think the riots in london have nothing to do with deep underlying socio-economic problems.

That would be me. The looters and muggers are wearing new trainers and carrying Blackberrys. Socialist butthurt fail.

>>346504380
>>346504380
>>346504380

EXACTLY my point.

>>346503918
Hmmm...I state something that Fox news accurately reported and so I'm a moron...I can see why your country is going down the shitter.

>>346503987

Don't complain, go to school and learn. If you got a good education and still no chance to get a job, you can come back and complain.

>>346502339
The chav hasn't been around forever.
His culture mirrors consumer culture, yet taken to its extremes.
The chav is what resulted of Thatcher's suppression and dehumanization of the lower class.

It's a social breakdown from the deplorable conditions in which many Londoners live.

⁃ ‎1 in 2 children in Tottenham live in poverty. The area controls 90% of the UK heroin market. Last month alone they had 1 homicide, 439 reported cases of violent crime, 16 reported rapes, 154 burglaries, 110 reported cases of domestic violence, 9,451 out of work residents which is a 26 per cent increase since figures published in March.

reasons why the rioters are justified in their actions:

>system has screwed them over, they have nothing to live for so this kind of thing is inevitable

>banker bailouts and recession, rising cost of living, hit poorest people hardest, no way to survive on a day to day basis, they are expressing their anger

>martin luther king “Riots are the voice of the unheard”

>blacks were kept as slaves for centuries so we cant tell them to behave we are just as bad

>they cant get jobs, no access to good quality education, local schools are recruiting agents for drugs and gang lifestyle, they are mostly kids so too young for benefits

>they are sick of the government doing nothing for them, cutting funding to their areas and closing down important youth centres in their areas (these youth centres deal with drugs/gangs/etc. with the youth).

>institutional racism in the police, corruption, illegal use of stop and search

Your fortune: Outlook good

>>346504719

You watch Fox News so nothing you extrapolate from any information is valid.

>>346502047
this.

>>346504906

Don't complain, learn and try to get a good qualification. From the images I have seen on TV I'd wager a bet that a lot of these young guys don't have much interest in getting good grades to begin with. They only want to party and have fun.

>>346505230
Everyone is really tired of your reductionist drivel.

>>346504921

That's like your opinion, man

lol at all the britfags before the riots always talking about how britain is the best country in the world. I have yet to see any posts like this when the riots started.

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

>>346505230

They're not complaining, they're taking shit. The people whose shit is getting stolen and burned down are the bitches complaining.

>>346504921
Lol. So we shouldn't try to obtain information from a variety of sources? I am starting to understand why you UK queers are failing so very hard. Your stupidity is really starting to show

>>346501237
nope.

most of them in london were too young to get jobs.

the others were always going to get shit jobs, they just don't want them because they all think they can be a deejay, footballer, mc, rapper or some other fantasy job.

bottom line, they are just trouble making cunts. it's sympathetic turd burglars like you that cause the problems.

they are just fucking things up for fun on a large scale

>>346505375

If you don't have any counter-argument, my point still stands. Your assertions about what everyone feels are void.

>>346502056
The fucking Muslims are defending communities and property.

They are the only people doing jack shit to help, the Police are fucking useless. You people make me sick.

Your fortune: Good Luck

>>346505527

You're too stupid to understand.

Also, I'm murikan.

>>346505375
typical wannabe trotskie who thinks he speaks for everyone.

that dude is actually right. they have no intention of entering the labour market.

no, they are whiney assholes that should be shot

They have nothing t o complain baout - especially nothing that stealing ipads and jeans is going to help

oh and look at some of the pics, the phone shops are trashed, but the banks are untouched, assholes are not angry, they are simple common thieves

also burning down small family run businesses is total fuckwittery, crabs in a bucket, just like nig­gers

>>346505595
I don't need any counter-arguments. If a hole is bigger than a wall, I do not need to point and say "there is a hole". I would need to point to the side and say "there is what remains of the wall".

>>346505498

So? They get to take some stuff but are still stuck with their lives. The people they took from will call the insurance or get state money and rebuild their livelihood. They got a better economic future still.

Worse doing so riots again will become more difficult and more risky in the future as the government prepares itself.

>Fox News

OP is buttsore he is unemployed. How does that phrase "Fuck it, I will do it later" feel now... loser

>>346505860
And still, you failed to answer the original question. You got trolled baby.

Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>346506057

You said stop complaining. I was just pointing out who the complainers were.

Blacks were kept as slaves for centuries so we cant tell them to behave we are just as bad

That is the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read. Get thee back to sixth form!!!

nigglets gonna niggle

(inb4 whites, they are band wagon nigglets)
this is 100 percent people taking advantage of an opportunity to steal and act like social jackasses

It's got nothing to do with socio-economics, multicultralism, cuts, lack of jobs, race or some dude getting shot. The riots are happening because of the hot weather. It's been to warm for a week, and really warm in London. People get agitated in the heat. You never get riots when it's raining or snowing.

Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>346506186

> doesn't know what "trolled" means.

>>346505230

chavs negros and pakis the whole lot of them

imagine all the insurance claims thats gonna be coming in ppl about to get motherfucking paid

>>346506430
>You never get riots when it's raining or snowing.

DEAR GOD
HE'S RIGHT

>>346506057
yeah, magic money and magic builders who put everything right in two minutes and it's as though it never happened.

you clearly have never moved from your mum's house because your idea of how the world works is too simple.

it fucks things up for a long time for a lot of people

>>346501237

>I don't need any counter-arguments. If a hole is bigger than a wall, I do not need to point and say "there is a hole". I would need to point to the side and say "there is what remains of the wall".

You can claim anything you want but don't expect many people to follow you if your claims aren't sound.

My argument still stands unchallenged. These guys mostly just wanna hang out with girls and have party. They hate the police because they are teens and dislike being ordered around in general. They want to be able to do whatever they feel like and don't understand why the world wouldn't let them live in complete anarchy.

That's the type of people I see when I turn on TV.

>>346506511
And continue to get trolled...lol

>>346506404

white over-privileged attitude detected

our ancestors fucked over black people that's a fact, we still owe them big time and the main reason there is such an inequality and disparity between the races is because of how rich white people used black people like cattle for centuries

>>346503113
that 11 year old that got arrested couldn't find work?

also its been shown that a lot of them that have been arrested came from middle class backgrounds

stop believing this is some poor persons revolution

Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>346506837

They continue to, and they've also learned they can do it to the poor and middle class by making them believe their meager wages mean something.

A person that doesn't understand freedom is easily enslaved.

people love piece
people gonna piece
people gonna nig

>> Niggers gonna nig

>>346506430
there is some truth to this.

mainly though, they saw the looting from saturday night on sunday and thought they'd get some new trainers

http://www.camvista.com/england/london/trafalgarsquare_streaming.php

Make something happen /b/

>>346506763
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I just wanted to say that you should stop, you're making yourself look like an idiot.

>You said stop complaining. I was just pointing out who the complainers were.

In the long run it won't be the businesspeople.

>>346506750
your argument is that all that is needed to be employed is to "have skills".

As if employment makes itself available for the skills, rather than the inverse.

>>346506837
>>346506837
yeah but your forgetting that black chieftains sold their people to the white slavers. And Arabs were taking slaves from africa long before the white man got there...why arent the african blacks and sand-roody-poos making reparations when they are jus as guilty as the white man???

>>346507272

yes, it's just wage slavery. people think they are a valued member of society yet they are really slaves to a corporate eite

>>346507652
lrn2selfsufficiency

>>346507536
And the trolling continues...

>>346506837
>ancestors
yes ancestors.

I don't owe a single black person a single fucking thing. if anything my relatives were just as screwed over as any blacks but I don't think anyone owes me anything for something that happened hundreds of years ago.

grow up you sixth form homo

In Neoliberalism, which is pretty much the Western world's system, unemployment is a tool used by governments to stem inflation. Ideally, 4% unemployment is best. 0% is avoided at all costs by lowering interest rates. 0% unemployment means the power lies with employees rather than employers.

>>346501237
>nothing to do with deep underlying socio-economic problems.

>continues to blame it on socio-economic problems.

?

>>346507898
"self sufficiency". What is that, but a euphemism for "finding a boss"? By that measure, "self sufficiency" could just as easily mean learning to fight in the street, to occupy empty houses, to cease working, to love each other madly, and to shoplift.

>yeah but your forgetting that black chieftains sold their people to the white slavers. And Arabs were taking slaves from africa long before the white man got there...why arent the african blacks and sand-roody-poos making reparations when they are jus as guilty as the white man???

Yeah and Turks pay Austrians for the siege of Vienna and back in the days a cavemen from your family was talking rudely to an ancestor from my family.

I want reparations from you.

In my nightmares
The streets are aflame
And in my dreams
It's much the same
And on the streets of L.A.
They know my name
And if you've come this far mister
Maybe we're one and the same

>>346508049 Same fag - I meant *raising * interest rates lol

>>346507652
So we should turn all the power and resources to all? Implying that tyranny won't eventually happen...time for bed, son. Come back after you finish high school, candy-ass

>>346507652
yeah viva la revolution

let's all just stop working and teach those corporate elites a lesson.

and then let's find out how our public services aren't at all funded by those corporate bastards.

yes they avoid tax but that isn't an issue on the minds of any of those thieving cunts on the rampage

>>346508331
wat

>>346508024
none of the blacks in the UK were slaves
none of their parents were slaves
they have the same opportunities as others
there are more than a few that are successful in business

they are just lazy fucks that are happy with the cost/benefit ratio of not working and getting benefits, that don't value the education on offer, quite the opposite of the kids in Africa

Voice of the riots:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

Sounds like educated, well-to-do white people out to cause a mess basically just because they can.

IM SO MAD AT THE GOVERMENT IMMA STEAL AN X-BOX

http://www.imagefap.com/profile/bcbud420

>In Neoliberalism, which is pretty much the Western world's system, unemployment is a tool used by governments to stem inflation.

And how does government steer that? Why do so prescious few countries have a nearly constant unemployment rate of around 4%?

Are there really people out there who believe that government is that nearly onipotent instead of being rather impotent and ineffective?

>>346502056

>mfw rioters in manchaster are mainly white

>mfw it was the kurdish immigrant population that was the first to organise itself and fight back to defend their homes and shops from the riot, an example followed by other immigrant comunities, while the police cant do shit

>mfw right wingers will keep playing the race card and ignoring obvious socio-economic and class issues untill same problems start breaking trough their windows while they sit on their ass posting racist bullshit online

I am calm.

>>346508049
That is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. Have you even ever cracked a book? Jesus fucking christ...

What I think this is all about:

>MUST BUY NEW iPAD!!!! MUST BUY NEW BB PHONE! WANT WANT WANT GET GET GET!!!
>but I have no monies.
>Oh, but if we pretend to be angry, we can loot and get that stuff for free.

Time to be less materialistic.

>>346508502
Yeah we should turn off your fridge, you might lose some weight you fat rich bastard.

>>346508297
it means stop being a fucking sheep... don't be a consumer, be a producer, I can produce everything my family needs to live myself... evrything.

>>346508915
he means 4% inflation you fucking twat faced cock swallower.

>>346508949
Majku ti boziju...

In one NBC report, a young man in Tottenham was asked if rioting really achieved anything:

> "Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?"

> The TV reporter from Britain's ITV had no response. So the young man pressed his advantage. "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you."

>>346508736
true.

>>346508820

I LOL'd.

Power Up!

>>346509048
>MUST BUY NEW iPAD!!!! MUST BUY NEW BB PHONE! WANT WANT WANT GET GET GET!!!
This is the message advertising forces on us daily.
This is our indoctrination into consumer culture.
>but I have no monies.
Capitalism continues to build up our urges as consumers, yet it does not make consumption as easy as the drive to consume.
>Oh, but if we pretend to be angry, we can loot and get that stuff for free.
I'd say they're rightfully angry.

>>346506837
I dont give 100 fucks what my ancestors did to anyone.
My ancestors could be serial killing raving homosexual rapists who enslaved entire nations and it still has nothing to do with me.

>>346509008
Stupid? I'm all ears on your take

>he means 4% inflation you fucking twat faced cock swallower.

He clearly didn't mean that, if you pay attention to what he said.

eurofags continue to fag it up...

britfag here. it sucks to be english.wer are a bunch of candy-asss.

that is all.

>>346509226
But it hasn't achieved anything.

And the reason there were no reports of a 2,000 person march on Scotland Yard was because they didn't deserve coverage - they have nothing to complain about from the police.

>>346507638
Only the rich white middle class can afford the luxury of feeling guilty for something that happened hundreds of years ago.

>>346501237

Time to fire up the ovens then.

>>346509101
And you live like a fucking poor hillbilly. I laugh at your poverty. I point my finger and fucking LAUGH!

>>346508915

Its done by the central bank which will control interest rates. They raise them when unemployment is too high and lower them when unemployment is too low.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

Lol /b/ already made 28k votes today, lulz

The problem is human trash in general. Niggers, pakis, chavs...colour doesn't matter. Like Chris Rock said (yes, I am quoting Chris Rock, problem pretentiousfags?): "There's black people...and then there's roody-poos."

What we need to do is focus all our efforts on these poor deprived areas. Really put aside the money to sort these underlying problems out. A couple of bombing runs later and we can turn Tottenham into a car park for the Olympics.

to quote another anon

i love how people are trying to intellectualise or justify this

the fact is that this is happening because roody-poos want free stuff and they think they can get away with it, so they think
no political agenda, no uprising it's all materialistic greed, and yes most of the looters are black

i cant help but feel if they didnt cover the first riot extensivly, no one else would be looting, its the images on tv of roody-poos getting away with tvs and shit that spark more idiots to try and do the same

yeah, they realise that if they work en masse there is more chance of getting away with it

deny this all you want, these are the facts.

I'm from Salford and live a 5minute walk from the precint where it all started, no one cares about a dead cockney Nigger they just want to loot and get free shit

why i read all the post on english accent?

Chavs are being chavs. It's no more complicated than that.

And the Tories are in power. It wouldn't be a conservative rule if there wasn't civil unrest, its part and parcel.

>>346510273

RIOTS are for FREE-SHIT

>>346509101
"Produce"? Production. Creation. The creation of something from given materials, yes?
And what have you produced? A house? Your car? Your home? Your TV? Of course not. Production of such is in the factory. you yourself never shaped the materials into the objects you perceive.
In that sense, how many of us actually "produce"? What do we make?

>>346509512
You would say they're rightfully angry but that's because you're a commie dicksplash.

I went to school with someone like you - he's a banker now.

It's entirely down to the individual to curb their desires. Blaming adverts is to say you're powerless and brainless - maybe you are but I'm not and I expect better from anyone who is.

>>346509512
>This is the message advertising forces on us daily.
>This is our indoctrination into consumer culture.

nonsense, that's that people indoctrinate themselves with.

Everybody has a choice to become materialistic and watch ads all day and think about all the crap they want to buy.
Or to not be materialistic and only buy what you want regardless of ads/society.

>>346509681
I agree with this, even though I am sorta vaguely lefty, and hate Stormfags with a passion, the notion of ancestral or racial guilt is for drooling angsty morons.

I bear no more guilt for slavery, colonization, etc than I do for Stalin's purges, since I didn't participate in any of them.

>>346510472
I make love

In my head, I just see the rioters thinking this:

"Nyehhhh, I deserve a well-paying job because I went to college on the government diiiiime! My baseline degree in Middle Eastern cultures/philosophy/art/film/etc. automatically qualifies me for the job of my dreams! I shouldn't have to struggle to get it! Nyehhhhhhh!"

Hitler knew that this will happen, so he sent his mighty V2 rockets to clean London.

some people just like to see the world burn
thats what this is all about.
there is no reason.
pic related.
some assholes showing of their shit

>>346509512
I am sorry they can not control themselves and are mindless consumers, the government should clearly give everyone a new iphone every year.

Unlike other countries in the UK you get welfare indefinitely, can claim for emergency loans for furniture, get money to get a suit for an interview, get money for a mobile phone (At least I was offered one when I said I didn't have one when I was on welfare), have free welfare, government funded housing (Where you get to choose where you stay).

It's not like people in the UK are living in any kind of real poverty, unless it's parents that abuse their children and spend all their welfare money on lottery tickets and drink.

>>346510115

Why do so prescious few countries have a nearly constant unemployment rate of around 4%?

>>346510262
>>346510262


fucking this

>>346511115
Free healthcare not welfare*

>>346510508
>You would say they're rightfully angry but that's because you're a commie dicksplash.
great counterpoint brometheus.
>I went to school with someone like you - he's a banker now.
There was actually a lot of this going on back in the day. A lot of old Trotskyists are really into finance.
>It's entirely down to the individual to curb their desires. Blaming adverts is to say you're powerless and brainless - maybe you are but I'm not and I expect better from anyone who is.
Is man not himself a product of his society? He is born an individual, but he is not born with defense against influence. Such must be developed later in life.
How can such be developed in a society that would prefer him to be so easily melded?

>>346510931
>>346510931

bottom is funny as fuck and nothing to do with the riots
3/10 as I felt the need to reply

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

>>346509101

No you can't. Everything is owned or controlled by someone else. You can reach self sufficiency, but you cannot start there.

>>346511115
funny thing is, free iphones were suggested a couple of years ago, mainly as it would be cheaper than the proposed id cards

>>346508736

Worth it!!!

Reposted for xtra lolz http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

>>346510273
ur stupid.
u say "they" as if they are a big organized group. Social protest is the result of the government failing in suppliying basic needs of a society.

gtfo ignorant prick.

>>346510204
I lul'd

>>346508049
>Neoliberalism, which is pretty much the Western world's system

>Thinks UK = entire Western world

No, most of the West is more socialist than (neo-)liberal.
It's all a mix, though.

Another worthy cause claimed.

>>346510630

I think ancestral guilt is just a concept made up by right wingers

I never felt it, nor do I know anyone who feels it

for all I know it doesnt exist

>>346510931
Is that you Hearn?

>>346508949

Manchester is new FAILchester

>>346511393
>>346511393

watch this candy-ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhQOzBRupaE

Anybody know of rioting in Skelmersdale? Im working there friday and saturday see

>>346510524
I close my eyes, and in the darkness there is what appears to be colour. I am able to piece together colours in order to distinguish shapes. All I can ever see is blowjobs.
Yet, I have no reasonable purpose for thinking of blowjobs. It would seem to simply be an association of the brain in its inability to comprehend the blackness.
It cannot be said that I have chosen to think of blowjobs. At least, not in the conscious sense. Therefore, it must follow that some force outside of me has imposed the image of blowjobs upon my thought.

>>346511675
>>346511675

You fag, up north we don't care about the south especially not a dead Nigger, and as Salford is in majority white and massively racist we really don't care. they as I said was a reference to the people looting not saying they are a group, I know a lot of people who will be out there robbing and know that they are there just to rob

gtfo unless you know what you are talking about

>>346501237

None of this justifies violence. The rioters should be put up against walls and shot en masse. Don't care about their skin color.

England is doomed. It has chosen to allow itself to be destroyed from within. Let it take Europe down with it. America and China stand to benefit.

>>346511363
So everyone's helpless then?

And everyone's a victim.

Socialists want to meld even more than any ideology.

to quote another anon

i love how people are trying to intellectualise or justify this

the fact is that this is happening because roody-poos want free stuff and they think they can get away with it, so they think
no political agenda, no uprising it's all materialistic greed, and yes most of the looters are black

i cant help but feel if they didnt cover the first riot extensivly, no one else would be looting, its the images on tv of roody-poos getting away with tvs and shit that spark more idiots to try and do the same

yeah, they realise that if they work en masse there is more chance of getting away with it

deny this all you want, these are the facts.,

UK men are gay

This about assholes showing the government and people whith money that they can do what they want. Thier saying" Keep giving me shit or I will take it from you!"

>>346512460
>implying the 51st state has an impact on Europe

Who are you, Ringo Starr?

>>346501237

>ITT: people who think the riots in london have nothing to do with deep underlying socio-economic problems

you are wrong OP

>>346511115
Exactly.

The UK welfare system is quite fair, not much to complain about.

I really think all the rioters want is LUXURIES.
I'm a socialist but even I don't think the government is responsible for providing luxuries.

>>346510262

QFT

y can't u guys just be likie japan after the earthquake and tsunami and nuclear power plant anal fissurez. They were all freakishly civil. I'm jelly, I want my society to be this way, but to many roody-poos. sadface.jpg

>>346512554
That was indeed the problem of early socialists.
Yet, in any mass of people, despite the "mass" being considered a singular entity, there exists its composition of multiple unique individuals. A mass is not a mass, but a mass of individuals.

Anyone who is incapable of imagining a community of unique individuals has nothing to put in the place of political mediation, and this goes too for some of the more vulgar socialists.

>>346509681

I couldn't agree more. I didn't have anything to do with what went on in the slavery days. I don't owe anyone shit.

Reparations and crying about their problems is just an excuse for those lazy fucks to not do anything and leech off the government.

I mean shit, I didn't grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth, and I wasn't handed a job. I've worked for every single thing I have since I left my parents house in 1998 when I was 19.

im on the dole
i live like a king

>>346512864
actually i used to work in welfare payments, the biggest fear was some kind of fuck up around christmas as no one wanted news stories about how little johnny could not get his PS3 that year

>>346512221
Erm, I suggest that you're a deeply repressed homosexer and your unconscious is showing you the cock sucking that you deeply desire.

There is no external force in play but an overwhelming internal force.

God haven't the british police ever heard of tasers and tear gas?

>>346512707

kinda the same thing in Vancouver..
the Stanley cup was nearing the end and immediately all tv stations began showing footage of the riots taking place. Everyone started pouring out of the bars expecting to fuck shit up.

Not saying this is the cause.. or the riots wouldn't of happened .. just seems like its not going to help anything, giving people ideas and what-not.

>>346505230
also wear gold and burberry

Enfield Vigilante petrol successful lolz @ pussy rioters

>>346508356
Quoting The Nightwatchman does not apply here.
Remonstrating is not the same as rioting to get a new 40 inch television from Currys.Digital for free, which is what is happening right now.

>>346513105

just because you dont care doesnt mean you can absolve yourself of responsibility, sociopaths don't care when they murder some innocent person but they should still be held accountable

the cornerstone of civilised society is moral accountability, i.e. you take responsibility when it's appropriate. if you want to live in civilised society and enjoy all the benefits it brings how can you refuse to take responsibility? as i said earlier if everything was even now it would be different, but there is still an inequality and therefore we still hold responsibility for what our ancestors did

If you have Blackberry you are not living in poverty.

please don't say nÍggers, it's extremely offensive

>>346513255
It's mostly azn women giving the blowjobs. But who doesn't have the yellow fever?
Is a man born with the innate knowledge of what a blowjob is? He is certainly born knowing (to an extent) of sex, but to come to the conclusion of the blowjob would surely require more than his simple nature.
What is internal makes itself know through sensation, rather than something so abstract as an act. The knowledge of pain, happiness, hot, cold, these are internal to me and exist as sense, rather than thought (that is to say, it is thought but it is sensed, rather than perceived (as with a blowjob)).

Damn. I wish I was there. I'd love a new telly.

>>346513299
tasers is just asking for police brutality: hurting people without leaving visible traces.

They heard of rubber bullets, which is what they plan to use. - much better because no police will shoot rubber bullets unless it's absolutely necessary.

níggers

Nothing more than bottom feeder's living off benefits trying to get MORE free stuff, it's not just blacks, it's just people who live in poor areas, and the poorer areas are ALWAYS dominated by minorities.

>>346513596

Sorry sir, but I remain firm in my beliefs. If they want reparations, then they need to track down the "ancestors" of the tribesmen in their own country who sold them off to the slave traders

>>346513623
Very true.

Not sure if they all carry blackberry's, though, or just some who then inform the rest of the gang?

>>346513299

>using tasers and tear gas in europe

Sorry, we are not pussies, doesn't stop anyone but kids and the elderly from rioting.

>>346513996

And they are doing this because they've been forced into retardation by the oppression from their elitist bastard government.

>>346513244
I still do lol

I'm a Crisis Loan Decision Maker and I hear it all.

These days you can only get three Crisis Loans in 12 months so it's not as bad as it was.

But there's loads of the sponging cunts ringing up because they've spunked their money on HP payments or Provident or whatever the fuck else.

Also telling stupid lies because they want money for something or other so they pretend they've lost all of their benefits ten minutes after they got it out of the bank.

>>346501237
Its like that here in the states too for the most part. a high school diploma will at best only get you a job in McDonald's (or similar) i know their are exceptions to the rule, but they are wide and far in between and has much to do with the individual.

Company's, even labor positions mostly want to, and do hire current college students as they see are using their earned money properly to further their education.
they seem more goal oriented and will perform their jobs better.

Whereas the outdated high school graduate will more than likely only focus on buying beer and weed for the weekend and not get any further than a shitty apartment. lower wage equals lower ability to pay higher taxes which seem to be the main interest and trend of many community's today, and of our government.

Their is an inequity today that's being unfairly acknowledged and erased.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

kewl, wish they had that kinda petition system in my country. seems u can vote if not from uk but it doesn't count for the needed 100k, but will support it.

>>346513752
nig­gers

So the solution is to burn other peoples possessions and put more people out of work.

Great logic there.

Inferior whites just jelly because superior black males are having lulz doing whatever the fuck they want with no one to stop them, all the while getting free shit.

but wait. i thought this all happened cause some cop shot a kid.

It is weird that there are all of these uprisings appearing all over the globe.
Still the muslims need to fuck off. If they instill shariah law and govt just gonna fuck off of course people are going to riot.

>>346510104

Nothing I own devalues when the stock market takes a shit or the dollar declines... I don't live like a Hillbilly and I actually live in a city, but my household is 100% self sufficient. I have hard currency if I need it, and I make a shit ton supplying my neighbours with necessities, repairs on vehicles and houses. I own 170 acres outside of town where I grow my own food, including beef, pork and chicken, I can and do hunt and fish with a rifle, a bow, and snares. I do all my own repairs on all my vehicles, and have never bought a new vehicle in my life. My net worth, not including my land holdings and bank accounts (which can be taken away at any time) is over 1 million, I have a Masters in Schience, and I have 0 debt... I don't feel poor

>>346515424

are you black?

but what about the part where it's all the roody-poo's fault?

>>346514536
>a high school diploma will at best only get you a job in McDonald's (or similar)

What do you expect?
All a high-school diploma proves is that you can read and write, and do some very basic maths.

Any skilled job requires specific training.
In my country not even the lowest of the lows consider a "high-school" diploma enough preparation to enter the job market.

Hell, I consider myself a dropout because I only have a bachelor's degree.
Really what you need is AT LEAST a master degree or job-specific certification.

>>346513596
I am not responsible for something that happened 400 years ago.

Black people in the UK have equal opportunities to their neighbours. There are a fuckload more poor white people in the UK than there are blacks.

Shut the fuck up with your slavery bullshit. It is over. The only burden is the chip on the shoulders of any black man pretending he's oppressed by the white man.

Truth is, he has a slightly better chance of employment in the public sector and a better chance of promotion.

>>346515958

Which is in fact completely retarded and not how it is supposed to be.

This has nothing to do with jobs
The people rioting on that picture are a bunch of tweenage candy-asss that have never worked a day in their life.
For a police state your police sucks ass.

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>>346514198

They are now.

This could all have been avoided if business and home owners could simply own a god damn firearm for defence. The Koreans new the score during the LA riots. Heroes.

www.armbritain.com

http://www.abbeyroad.com/visit/

LETS SEE SOME SHIT GO DOWN

Cops need to be fucked up really bad and than everynewt gingrich would go home and fucking relax.

>>346515424
roody-poo

>>346510472

I built my own home on my 170 acre lot, from materials I harvested myself on my own land. If it was taken tomorrow, I could do it again somewhere else on crown land I don't care a whit for tv's raidos etc. I have em, wouldn't miss em if they were gone tomorrow. Of course I own them now, and if they stopped making them tomorrow I could repair them. I have my own hot water system which requires only sunlight which I made myself from discarded materials, and 3 separate power generation systems I created myself likewise from discarded materials.

I get 0 food from the supermarket

My family needs rely on no-one else for the necessities of life, anything else could disappear tomorrow and my family would be just fine.

>>346516642

They use the excuse that they're rioting because there are no jobs in their community, yet they can catch a train to go to the other side of the city to riot

>can't catch a train to go to a job though
datroody-poologic.jpg

>>346517003
True that.

Curious how he manufactures his own ammunition though.

>>346515424

You sir, have my dream. Please tell me how to get it. I want out of this shit.

> Say that the rioters are poverty stricken kids.
> Say that Blackberrys the rioters own is causing problems.

>>346511447

stop being brainwashed into thinking you need someone else to do it for you... stop being a victim

>>346516596
Yeah I want to get good jobs without having to put in any effort, fucking government let's burn a bank or something.

>>346517269
Well jeez, shoulda said so earlier.
If that's the case, I'll retract my earlier comment.

>Go to football match in small northern town near manchester

>HOBOS REVOLT, 8 of them trying to break in to a JJB sports store by smashing the windows with their cups and shoes.

>Arrested immediately

But seriously it's spreading fast and i would rather the army take over now.

All white supremacists are a bunch of whinny coward fags, who only do anything when they outnumber their victims, otherwise they hide in their mommy's basements idolizing another coward fag who instead of facing reality killed himself.

Where are England's white supremacists? Where is the white power?? England is burning as we speak and the pussies are hiding at home scared to death.

Breivik? Another delusional fag who killed unarmed young people till he saw the First guy who could oppose him.

>>346516596
>Which is in fact completely retarded and not how it is supposed to be.

In what way?

Skilled jobs require skills.
They can't make someone a brain surgeon who only has a HS diploma and doesn't want to learn more.

It's just how the universe works (laws of physics and all that).
So just shape up and start getting educated.

>>346517490
>implying blackberries are expensive

>>346515764

Nope I'm white, and I live in Canada

>>346516772

bump

>>346501237
This fun. Gonna sell his as in Venice

>>346517837
They aren't expensive but someone living in 'poverty' shouldn't be able to afford one

>>346516642
protip: England isn't a police state.

They didn't even want to use water cannons on their own people because they were only meant for the Irish.

>>346515958

>What do you expect?

At one time not long ago a high school graduate could atleast expect to get a job even in the shittiest of labor positions. (one that does not necessarily plan on furthering their education) not so today, over saturation of young in education and in demand means they can pick the cream of the crop so to speak, someone who is hurting to further their education.

>>346518210
Remember that fox news report on poor people having fridges?

>>346517501

lol...wut?

>>346517434

Just do it... don't buy anything you can't maintain and repair yourself..... learn learn learn... get a small piece of land and grow your own shit... read everything you can on building, growing etc, and stockpile gold... pawnshops are great places to get it cheap. I was brought up mennonite, I was taught self sufficiency from an early age.

Yeah Fox (News Corp - Murdoch) have no axe to grind in the U.K. mouth breather.

>>346518568
I don't watch fox news, or know anything about fox news

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>>346517501

You need land to grow your own food you dumbass. Everyone didn't have mommy and daddy handing life to them like you,fa­ggot.

>>346517731
It should be possible for most people with a basic understanding of maths and basic literacy to learn many jobs.

it used to be you could start in a junior position and work your way up without the need for a degree.

unfortunately for the UK Blair and New Labour wanted to make people think they'd become middle class by sending their children to university but in the process lowered the value of a degree.

it used to be that a degree was the sign of a clever person but now any cunt can get one.

the trouble is that we ceased to be able to fund so many dipshits in further education so many people who ought to get a degree can't because they can't afford one.

a degree shouldn't be necessary for a slightly skilled office job when you consider it's just a few years study from being a doctor (apparently).

bring back decent apprenticeships

>>346505838
>>346517697
Its not just the Muslims defending their property. In one area its a coalition of Jews, Christians and Muslims. But what most of them are brown SO THEY MUST BE MUSLIM.

Also in some area's, the English are defending their home towns because they've concluded that the police can't do shit

>>346517731

Sorry, I don't need to listen to retarded people so they give me one of their retard papers.

I own a business and the only person I need to prove myself to is me.

Fuck your system, enjoy your life of dependency.

>>346518645

Thank you.

>>346518692
I'm sure you'd love it
Ignore this tool at the start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWpz9NQipp0

This is not due to deprivation in any shape or form. Feral nogs want to steal, and know the police won't batter them senseless or shoot them, as should happen. If one of those animals died, a swarm of grievance industry parasites would cripple police work.

>>346519202
Probably how they became poor, spending a shit load more than they can or need

>>346518846

Depending on where you live, there's plenty of land you don't need to own to grow on... take a fucking drive... take a fucking walk.... lrn2 hydroponics, build a greenhouse on your balcon or backyard with salvaged lumber and discarded windows or even rolls of plastic. there's a difference between buying tools to be self sufficient, and being a mindless consumer

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>>346519862

You really are that dumb, aren't you?

>>346519862
pic related: it's a 1970s UK documentary on self sufficiency

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>>346520486

Those handmade tools are awesome.

>>346520253
I suspect he is.

Herp you can live on the food you can grow on a 6 foot by 4 recessed space on the north face of a massive building. herp it costs less to grow than it does to buy on your balcony

>>346518324
>not a police state
>centralised camera networks watching every street
>police swarm on peaceful protests, often outnumbering protesters, setting up metal walls etc when there are no signs of violence whatsoever (unlike these riots)
Keep telling yourself that bro

>>346518645

but you allready have all the land, all the materials and resources all the means of production, together with all the workforce you could ever need

so why would you want to live like an amish?

>>346520688
I lold

no. i didn't really

>>346520253
Yeah I know, absolutely retarded. I don't work (in the traditional sense of trading my time to someone for money) my famly owns 2 homes, 170 acres, a van I salvaged from a writeoff auction, 2 motorcycles I built, a boat I made myself, pays 0$ a month for hydro, heat, and hot water, have over $1,000,000 in hard currency and $0 in debt. I need rely on no-one to maintain anything I own.....fuck am I stupid, I should be a wage slave carrying a 40% debtload and paying other people to do everything for me because I'm too much of a wimp to do for myself.

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/08/20118981726279649.html

KFC seeing record sales as the sudden increase in wealth among the negro populous, although they are begining to refuse tv's as payment

>>346520975
the UK is not a police state

yes there is lots of cctv but it's in public places and means we can have less police officers

the police are there to facilitate the peaceful protests because they usually involving shutting down the marching routes
they very rarely outnumber protesters

>>346521048
I don't... point is if everything went fucked tomorrow, I could because I have learned to be self sufficient.

manchesterfag here

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL?

Everyone saying the police should go to extremes (plastic bullets and stuff) after the London riots are falling into the TRAP!
It's all government propaganda to give the police MORE POWER.

The people rioting are rioting about the already excessive amount of power and abuse of power by the police. The police LET the rioters get away with the damage they did last night! It was all part of the plan so that people will BEG the police to use more force NOW and in the FUTURE!

The police are now allowed to beat people to death and it's not going to be reported by any of the news networks out of "respect".

I am disappointed anon!

Did anyone just see the interview with the 2 black lads in manchester? You see they looked like the stereotypical black chav hoodie that is going around rioting right now, but they knew what they were talking about, they werent stupid, they even seemed half decent. This is not a race war

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>>346521658

Now bring that back to how it relates to the rioters problems stemming from them not being self sufficient.

Op is not a fag
Same stuff in France
Waiting for the riots

>>346521148
>>346521148
you're just lucky.

it's not possible for everyone to have the lifestyle that you do and it's the other people you seem to think are idiots that support your lifestyle

wait until you need a doctor and then tell us how retarded people who earn wages are

just like in Paris a some years ago

>>346521795

thank fucking god there is somebody with sense. Keep trying to say this to my mates but they keep taking the piss calling it tinfoilhat syndrome.

The mosque in my town just got set on fire.

At least something good came of this.

OP, I heard something about this, I think it was Karl Poppers Open Society and It's Enemies - I was listening to the audio book.
He talks about the "industrial reserve army" as he calls it, the unemployed and underemployed work force that keeps up the pressure on the employed....
I dunno, it's a documented phenomenon though.
I think bottom line is people will put up with anything until they start to go hungry and then the shit really hits the fan.

>>346521795
lay off the weed dude - you're paranoid

the press will have a fucking field day if the police beat anyone to death and they haven't been given any power to do that.

>>346522236
LOL always a good thing :D

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>>346521795
>>346521795

nigga you just went full retard

>>346521928

all this talk of wage slaves and hoplessness... if these people were self sufficient, they would be neither angry nor hopeless, but they are dependent and have a sense of entitlement that other people owe them what they want, rather than a sense that they need to go out and create it for themselves... no wonder they are frustrated, having to depend on other for their happiness and even survival, thats not a happy place to be.

>>346522141
luckily you have conservatives in power.

contrary to what people imagine, they don't like police states.

if labour were in power we might be fucked.

>>346521589
Thats fucking stupid. The police will arrive just in time to draw the chalk outlines of your body and maybe arrest someone later. The point defend your self and prevent the crime in the process. That's why Americans have so many god damn guns.

For everyone that's citing the fact that these kids have blackberries or new shoes, I went on a church thing when I was in high school and we went to New York and talked to some homeless roody-poos about what it was like to be homeless. A couple of them had iPhones/blackberrys and good clothes and shit, because they can just feed of the system for their housing/food and spend their paychecks on luxury items.

>>346501237
meh boring

wake me up when england gives in and becomes communist...they've already given up most of the british empire

>>346522636
in truth we can't all be self sufficient.

the reason we've reached the level of civilization we're at is interdependence.

if everyone went your way there would be far more death and destruction

>>346522329
>Implying I smoke weed
>imlying I'm paranoid
>implying the press aren't controlled by the government who stand to gain and the big corporations who stand to lose otherwise.
>implying the press aren't all stupid people

>>346521984

No I worked my ass off learning first and then doing... I started out at 18 living in street missions and panhandling, then I decided I was sick of depending on other people for my life and livelihood... I took ownership and responsibility for my life and started doing shit for myself . It wasn't easy, it was damn hard, but I made my own luck

>>346522652
no, the point is to have a law abiding society where people respect the rights of others and police are unnecessary.

>>346522329

its logic. the rescession is gonna get a LOT fucking worse over the coming years and the goverment know it. shits gonna hit the fan. if they make a media shitstorm about those 'pesky unemployed youths' running amok its giving them ammo to get heavy handed later. pure logic. and it wont just be that, it will be social media/network monitoring. - methods of control, or the engineering of public opinion.

>>346502056

>and Pakis. and Asians. enjoying multiculti and liberalism? How long till Shariah, Britain?

This appears to be completly down to working class Black and White chavs.

Working class Turkish Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, Indian Sikhs, and so forth all live in the same kind of poverty in Central London as the youth we've seen rioting.
Yet they've behaved in a civilised respectful manner and have actively defended the streets where they could.

What is it in working class Black and White culture which causes them to be more uncivilised and barbaric than equivalent Turks, Bangladeshis, and Indians?

>>346523208
yeah right.

pics or it didn't happen

and here i had believed england was all about tea sipping, cucumber sandwiches, and rolls royce motorcars

london looks like a dumpy ass slum

>mfw

>>346501237
>Graduates not getting jobs they work to get qualified for

Finish school -> become a director -> control everyone
ahaha kiddo. It doesn't work that way.
STEP BY STEP!

>>346522990

That's the attitude that keeps suckers coming to the trough... why bother I can't do it. Why do you think this? Have you tried? Or have you just been so pre-programmed by the media to be a mindless consumer that you can't possibly fathom a way out?

>>346521658

but society IS selfsufficient

theres millions of people with all sorts of knowlege and skills, theres all the means and materials you need, theres all the land you need, theres even huge amounds of goods ready to use

if society went to shit tomorrow, youd be free to use all this in any constructive and productive way you can - all of it

all you would need is organisation

it suprises me how much emphasis people put on things like survival skills and selfsufficiency, whyle even the basics of colective self-organisation are ignored, even with current comunication technology

thats just stupid

imagine if society realy did go to shit, and instead of everione locking up their dors after piling up all the canned food they can loot, people decided to organise consumption, production, distribution - not as selfsufficient loners, but as a society

i eman if you prepare for society to fall, why not prepare for that scenario? why not prepare for mass self-organisation, why not prepare for organised comunity selfdefence, why not prepare for solidarity and cooperation?

look at the kurds, for them society did colapse, and they organised, and they are defending themselves

>>346523432
This is idealistic but not realistic. I strive everyday for this idealism, but until that day comes I carry a gun. Not so much for me as my love ones.

>>346523460
it's logic but it's flawed logic.

things aren't going to get that bad.

>>346522914
I don't know what goes through homeless people's heads but I can make a educated guess on why they blow their government cheques on luxury items.

They lead a hard and shit life so therefore once they get some cash they may want to sample some of the finer things in life.

>>346523681
what do you want the pics of, me with 3 mohawks panhandling in Downtown Toronto, me reading and learning, or me taking ownership of my life?