(cont'd)
Nov 2010: A second depression was averted, and most economists agree that this was due in no small part to TARP and ARRA. But the economy is still weak, so the mouthbreathing electorate blames Obama and elects a Republitard Congress. (The mouthbreating electorate also dislikes "Obamacare", though polls show they actually endorse every aspect of the law; they just don't know what "Obamacare" really is. You see, they erroneously believed Obamacare would somehow diminish Medicare with "death panels", so they voted for Tea Partytards that actually *do* want to dismantle Medicare. Because that makes perfect sense.)
The kamikazi Republitards sign Grover Norquist's idiotic pledge to never under any circumstances raise taxes, not even in an effort to compromise.

Aug 2011: Said Republitards play chicken with the US economy and force Obama's hand to pass budget cuts that will almost certainly be contractionary. They do so without agreeing to any revenue increases.
Because Congress did not agree to the $4 trillion, 10-year deficit reduction package that Obama had proposed, the S&P keeps its word and downgrades the US credit rating.
The mouthbreathers continue to blame Obama.

Anyone else had enough of these wastes of life?

Tea party. Gotta love em.

>>346108905

A typical Tea Bagger.

>>346109430

Logic Win.

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>>346109068
LOL'D hard
How do people reach that far point of stupidity ???

OP needs to start anonradio. A central hub for organizing the legion. Together we can become more powerful than the T-baggers.


Bumping with my queen.

>>346110092
That level of stupidity is VERY common in America.

I don't mind higher taxes.

So long as someone else pays them.

Milton Friedman isn't anywhere close to a free market economist. He has more in common with Paul Krugman than the free market economists, like Robert Murphy, that predicted the housing bubble:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block168.html

It has nothing to do with taxes. It has to do with monetary policy, and that monetary policy is supported wholeheartedly by both parties since it makes deficit spending painless. Stop being a partisan candy-ass and learn about economics.

Oh, and the stimulus package is one of the major reasons why unemployment is so high. Deficit spending during a recession is the worst medicine one can prescribe for an ailing economy. Tragically, Bush/Obama didn't learn from the mistakes of Hoover on this one.

taxes was not the reason the bubble collapsed or even started in the first place. It was Ben Bernanke and his policies that created easy money and frivolous borrowing, to the point that people who could not afford houses were given the loans anyway, and then the banks hedged against the securities they knew would fail. It was the Fed's fault, and therefore bush's, but it was not taxes.

tea party = wealthy rednecks

Obama is a socialist because of what he supports, which is the forced redistribution of wealth, not because of his actions or impacts.

>>346110385
>>346110385
>Milton Friedman isn't anywhere close to a free market economist.

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>>346109068
i lol'd at the sign tho

>>346108719
I would dismantle Medicare in a minute. Entitlements are the real problem here.

>>346110385
>Deficit spending during a recession is the worst medicine one can prescribe for an ailing economy. Tragically, Bush/Obama didn't learn from the mistakes of Hoover on this one.

Are you insane?
Hoover's mistake was too much deficit spending during a recession? What the fuck are you smoking?

>>346108719
Government spending is not what is needed to get us out of recession. It is responsible deregulation. And nobody forced Obama's "hand" to do anything.

>>346108459
I don't get OP's Picture.
Maybe it's because I'm tired and not thinking all that clearly...
Someone want to explain what's going on?

>>346110385
He is as free market as they come. He is my hero

>>346110835
He supports policies that are more conservative than any other Democratic president in the past 60 years.

He wants a lower tax rate than that which was in place during Bush Sr.'s presidency.

I guess it depends on your definition of "socialist".

>>346110866
Austrians are the only true free market economists as they support a dismantling of the monopolized monetary/banking system that has led us to this financial collapse.

Friedman is not an Austrian. Read his expose on the cause of the Great Depression where his argument was that government did not involve themselves enough. How can any free market economist say that?

>>346111425
Those are all things paid for by taxes

>>346111830
NO he does not. He has openly stated that he supports the forced redistribution of wealth. That is what a progressive tax policy is after all.

>>346111850
Oh god, right.
Derp, thanks anon

>>346110397
agree to an extent. laws were passed during the clinton administration (1998 i believe) that basically forced loans to be given to people who had no means to repay that loan. and now we are where we are at right now

>>346112057
lol i didnt get it eirther until his post

Captcha: rrtsTHe Welfare

>>346111425

the Republicans don't want taxes, when taxes pay for all the things OP is pointing out.

>>346112200
Absolutely right. Bush was to blame though. The Fed knew about these policies and Bush allowed it to happen. Bush was, truly, one of the most progressive presidents we have had in a long time.

>>346108459

THAT MOTHERFUCKING VAN JUST TURNED ON RED!

All Wealthy rednecks? Unless the tea party is all cowboy hat wearing oil tycoons I think someone here is a fucking moron.

If the Tea Party is all wealthy rednecks then the Democratic party is straight up gangsta niggaz with gold teef. word.

Are all republicans also social darwinists?

>>346112478
im not understanding why this is solely bush's fault though? he shares blame, but clinton got the train rolling.

>>346111850

You know what else taxes pay for?

Wars that you didn't ask for.
Paying a bank so that some roody-poo can stay in a house that he and his welfare kids cannot afford on his salary alone.
Paying some illegal spic's hospital bill while he avoids paying taxes on his income.
Subsidizing student loans for kids who spend the loan money for expensive ISPs only to use it to download CP on newt gingrich. That and weed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdgv7n9xCY&feature=channel_video_title
all very good videos by Milton Friedman

>>346112007
>>346112007
>NO he does not. He has openly stated that he supports the forced redistribution of wealth. That is what a progressive tax policy is after all.


Pretty much *everyone*, except the most extreme, support the idea of a progressive tax scheme to some extent. Milton Friedman did, as do most Republican candidates.
But Obama wants to keep Bush's tax cuts in place for the majority of Americans.

>>346112057
No problem I'm sleepy to so it took me a sec to figure it out at first

>>346112865
True, and Obama has let other things happen. We have basically had three progressive presidents in a row

>It would have made since to increase taxes
> would have made since
>made since
>since

OP lost all credibility.
Then again, OP is a candy-ass and a product of the US education system, and therefore is as dumb as a brick when it comes to proper spelling.

>>346113098
No he does not. Milton Friedman supports, as I do, a negative income tax

>>346113098
>Majority of Americans
only to gain popularity.

DOWN WITH THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT BURN IT DOWN FUCK

>>346111296
http://mises.org/daily/4350

Hoover was as interventionist as they come. Hell, in the depression of 1921 (which laissez-faire policies cured within a year), Hoover was advocating for massive deficit spending too. Luckily, Warren Harding ignored him.

Laissez-faire = quick economic recovery; proven time and time again.

Interventionism/Keynesianism = stagnant economic growth after a collapse; sound familiar?

>>346113278
>No he does not. Milton Friedman supports, as I do, a negative income tax

Who is "he" here?
Obama or Milton Friedman?

A negative income tax *is* a progressive tax scheme.

>>346108459
OP, thanks for the pic.

>>346113429

I'm as pro-government and pro-diplomacy as the next guy. But every day, slowly but surely, this appeals to me more and more...

>>346113568
True

>>346113709
Milton Friedman. And a negative income tax is a system of both welfare and flat tax all in one.

>>346113995
ITS THE PERFECT PLAN

Going to highschool in Texas was pretty sad. Over crowded classes were bad enough, but there were also illegals attending school and using tax payer dollars for language classes.
Am I racist? Nope not really. Is it fair that we pay taxes and they leech the benefits? Not at all.
Context is a funny thing and it is almost always lost when some self righteous democrat that bases everything they say off of tv and what their parents told them.

>>346114130
Good point. I personally support private schooling through vouchers, and when schools are private, they will pay a LOT of attention to who goes to their school, as they do not want their image as a school to be one that harbors illegal immigrants.

create policies that will destroy the nation in 90 years

alpha as fuck

>>346113406
I'm not so sure he is positioning himself "only to gain popularity". Remember, he ran to the right of the other two main contenders in the Democratic primary.
And regardless, this isn't an important distinction. Shouldn't we only care about the policies he actually *endorses*?

>>346114479
lol worst president ever in my opinion. Obama is 3rd, after Harding. Harding was the dumbest pice of shit.

>>346114551
>too the right
meaning that he abandoned his real policies and beliefs to pander to what the majority of the country believes, simply to get elected, then goes back to his policies

there needs to be private school voucher. public schools suck more and more and the teachers unions are letting it happen as they ride their gravy train. if you allowed parents (especially poor ones) the option of a better education they would take it, and public schools would have to reform and become acceptable means of schooling kids again. the amount of money we spend on education is not paying in returns in the k-12 area

>>346114623
Harding was dumb, and that's why the depression of 1921 was a non-event :P

He didn't intervene in the collapse; he let bad companies go bankrupt, shit restructure, and the economy recovered within a year. If he had been a smart Harvard type, and wanted to social engineer a recovery, you can bet your shit the depression of 1921 would've lasted for at least a decade.

>>346114823
>meaning that he abandoned his real policies and beliefs to pander to what the majority of the country believes, simply to get elected, then goes back to his policies

But he hasn't gone back to what you think are "his policies". He has not reneged on any of his campaign pledges/positions.

>>346115027
I know. That was a very good decision, but done out of the wrong reasons. He didn't do anything because he was a candy-ass, and too afraid for his own political stance and his special interests. It was a good decision in hindsight, but a lot of other times he made bad decisions, especially on foreign policy

>>346115289

>>346108459

Anyone with half a brain has realized by now that the people who argue on roadsides with signs, picketers in general, and the people who scream on TV, are all paid to do so and they don't necessarily hold those views.

Picketing has been a job for at least the last decade.

If you take the news media seriously, or what people in Government say on c-span seriously, you are a moron.

The forces that are really at work are between special interests groups and the people they finance to get into elected seats, it is a give and take between different groups, and it has absolutely nothing to do with democracy or the beliefs of the American people.

Voting won't solve anything, unless it were a vote for a campaign finance reform bill filled with teeth, but that could only come to pass if the people in power decided, altogether, that they wanted to step down - and that will never happen.

So you can argue all you want about how people should feel about certain decisions made by the fucks in Washington, but it is pointless bullshit posturing, if you are not a well financed lobby your views are inconsequential.

Republicans are like coke. It's always been a successful soda and company.

Democrats are like pepsi. They go around having bullshit campaigns claiming to be the fresh new voice of a generation when really it's a disappointment if the place you stopped at doesn't serve coke.

Pepsi challenge my ass. EVERYONE fucking knows what coke and pepsi tastes like. Get your heads out of your asses and focus on the task at hand.

>>346114144
>Is it fair that we pay taxes and they leech the benefits?

You don't have a fully developed sense of the word "fair".

Is it fair that these "illegals" were born into much shittier lives than yours?
The answer should be obvious to anyone.

fuck this shit ....the goddamn blame lies square on the shoulders of that cocksucking candy-ass from massachusetts Barney fucking Frank....He championed a law forcing lenders to finance homes for nigroes irrespective of ability to repay said loans....financial institutions then made lemonade from lemons and unloaded these bad loans right back on the government that wrought them....the liberal media will not report this fact just like they wont report any other behavioral issues of negroids.... it is not permitted to lay the blame for societies ills on the fine upstanding african americans that are ruining our country....until the white man wakes up and exterminates the negro we deserve every stolen bike.

>yfw no one actually cares about milton friedman's economic ideas beyond his monetary policy, in which he comes down decisively on the side of fiat currency and opposing ron paul/austrian/libretardian gold standard derpology.

>>346115289
> Will "ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square by publishing the text online for at least three days before coming up for a vote in the House of Representatives."
Debt deal gets fast-track vote to avert government defaul
>Establish a hard cap on new discretionary spending
>"Will create a federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) that will require 25 percent of American electricity be derived from renewable sources by 2025, which has the potential to create hundreds of thousands of new jobs on its own."
No renewable energy progress in sight
I can go on

>>346115776
nope. not fair at all.
but life isnt fair.
and it sure as shit aint my responsibility to pay for and care for some Nigger who circumvents the law for a free ride.

Everybody with half a brain knew OP is a candy-ass.

>>346115474
>>346115474
I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one, but I would entertain any examples you have to offer.

>>346112970
>Paying some illegal spic's hospital bill while he avoids paying taxes on his income.
Actually, everyone's paying for that in higher health insurance premiums.

I have no idea how you came to think that taxes pay for the majority of indigent healthcare. That would mean that most healthcare is already socialized and that illegals are using Medicare to pay without any ID.

Just how would they do that, exactly?

Go derp some more herp, why don't you.

>>346115700
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>>346115776
Of course its fair that they were born into a shittier situation. Its not their fault, but its not not fair. All that they can do is choose what to do with the time given to them. If they make the best of it, good for them. If they don't, I have no sympathy for them.

Tea party; why and ignorant should stay alone??

>>346116193
>>346116162
see

You do realize you are FUCKING RETARDED right? Republicans want no NEW TAXES, not no taxes at all you dumb fuck

>>346116003

cuckoo! cuckoo!

>>346116957
>zero taxes

direct quote from op's pic

>>346115776
is it fair that a Nigger in Africa starves because after 50 years of "aid" they have forgotten how to care for themselves and instead only know how to take a hand out?
what the fuck happened to teaching someone to fish? Now everyone just wants to give shit away and not teach the individual how to make due with what they have. No one wants to work anymore.

>>346117363
fapfapfapfap

>>346117285
those are the dumbass crazy tea partiers. They do not speak for the rest of the tea party. There are radical democrats too. They are called the SEIU, and they beat up guys that dont agree with them.

>>346108459
What I read was a summary of what the republicans have done to help create this mess. Now why did you leave off everything the Democrats have done to help create this mess...or are you just a candy-ass who's too stupid to see that?

>>346116162
> Will "ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square by publishing the text online for at least three days before coming up for a vote in the House of Representatives."

That's not even close to a power of the President.
I will agree that his pledge for "openness" in the legislative process was misguided. He and his staff pretty quickly realized that public bipartisan meetings were useless bc all they did was posture when they should be horse-trading.
I'm glad he reneged on that one.

To the other examples you gave: I should clarify. I can't think of any example where he has reverted to a *more liberal* position (contradicting his pre-election statements) on anything since being elected.

>>346116957

Horseshit. No "new" taxes in Republican lingo has seemed only to mean "no tax increases" for the past decade or so. Everytime the Bush tax cuts are set to expire, they push to prolong them. This debt-ceiling deal that passed the other day took them off the bargaining table when the 12 member "Super Congress" starts work on cutting the next 2 trillion dollars.

>>346118077
Yet, he promised it in the campaign. Whether he could or could not do it, it obviously got him support, and unrightfully so.

everyone who blames one party or the other entirely for all the problems is a Faggot.
BOTH parties are to blame. Each party pulled some bullshit that resulted in where we are now.

>>346118130
And this is a bad thing how?

>>346118374
True, which is why we need Ron Paul 2012

>>346118130
So how do you feel about the fact that nearly 50% of Americans that are eligible to pay income taxes either owe nothing, or get refunds?

>>346118533
That's not true you stupid candy-ass.

Any W-2 earner has withholding taxes taken out of their payroll. That is income taxes. Your 1040 at the end of the year is ADDITIONAL tax owed.

If you paid too much income tax GUESS WHAT YOU GET WHAT YOU OVERPAID BACK

YOU DUMB NIGGER

>>346118957
omfg...49% of this country pays no income taxes. They have nothing to get back in that regard. Fuck your stupidity.

>>346118533

And what percentage of that 50% are students who take advantage of the tax credits available to them which can result in getting back a larger refund than what you put in.
Are they leeches too?

>>346119225
0

>>346119225
Why shoudl they pay no income tax? Are they not citizens?

>>346118252
>>346118252
But this is getting silly. I mean, we both roll our eyes when Obama pledges "openness", but *every* candidate engages in this sort of posturing. I hate it, but it certainly doesn't set Obama apart.

Other ways in which Obama has moved to the right of his campain positions: Guantanamo & the Patriot Act. I really get the sense that he may have been a Reaganite all along, but that he only acted the liberal part to win elections in Illinois.

>>346118957
I know candy-ass. But guess what, every year more and more people don't pay anything ontop of what gets taken out of their checks. Your answer seems to be just tax the rich more and more to make up for that difference.

Not saying that increasing the tax on the rich shouldn't be done, but instead that the whole system needs to be redone so that EVERYONE contributes, not just the upper middle class and rich.

>>346119404
It does not excuse him either. "Oh, everyone is doing it." No.

>>346119404
He reopened Guantanamo. Figured that it wasn't a good idea after all.