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    10 KB Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:04:18 No.340746630  
    Hey pacifists,

    What would you have done against Nazi Germany?

    Don't avoid the question, if you're a pacifist, a hippie, a pothead, a Liberal, whatever, you MUST post ITT; many of us actually would like to hear your opinion.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:06:17 No.340746852
    >a pothead
    lolwut?


    I'd join them.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:06:20 No.340746855
    >> implying genocide is equal to petty oil wars
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:06:36 No.340746889
    Your fortune: Excellent Luck

    kill em all dude , but in a peaceful way
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:07:36 No.340746975
    Send some of my roody-poos in there.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:07:56 No.340747008
    Your fortune: Average Luck

    >>340746855
    This

    But also, unless I'm being directly threatened: nothing.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:08:32 No.340747079
    >>340746855
    shit i got dubs.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:08:45 No.340747102
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    Dude its simple...i would send Batman
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:09:28 No.340747221
    >>340746855

    Where did I imply that?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:09:32 No.340747237
    I would have just admitted Arians are way superior. Put a collar on my neck, walk on all fours to some nazi general with the leash in my mouth.
    >> !.X9p7owdWI 07/14/11(Thu)11:09:52 No.340747277
    War is to make money. Simple. I wouldn't fight Hitler. Fuck we're still fighting Hitler it's just a different face and they do their dirty work behind closed doors.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:10:01 No.340747309
    >>340747008

    Where the fuck did I imply that? I mentioned neither genocide nor oil.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:10:54 No.340747394
    >>340746855
    Evasion noted.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:11:05 No.340747413
    >>340747277

    "Men die for ideals, not deals."

    Money is nothing if not power. Without power, anyone can kill you, and they will, because their survival depends on it.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:11:36 No.340747457
    moderate democrat here.
    what would i have done against Nazi Germany? Probably gone to war with them and donkey punched them to death.
    I'm pretty sure all my liberal friends and family would say the exact same thing. Just because you're a liberal doesn't mean that you're not totally okay with stomping enemy ass when need be.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:11:50 No.340747483
    OP here, I notice no pacifist gave me a simple answer. I repeat: what do you advise in a case like Nazi Germany invading nations through force?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:12:04 No.340747512
    >>340747237
    >Arians
    LOL.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:12:18 No.340747537
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    Batman
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:12:29 No.340747556
    >>340747457

    >Just because you're a liberal doesn't mean that you're not totally okay with stomping enemy ass when need be.

    Possibly, but it's been a good 70 years since I heard a Liberal say that.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:12:56 No.340747588
    Let them take over everything becuase im to pussy to to do anything.
    Irony is that it would turn out like the republifags dreamworld.

    anyone think that the nazis would put up with fucking terrorist sandroody-poos or saudis denying them oil.

    plus we would probably have colonized the moon by now
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:12:59 No.340747595
    I would have let the Russians beat them. Y'know like what actually happened?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:14:05 No.340747698
    Your fortune: Better not tell you now

    i am not allowed to fight in the army because i have had mental issues resulting in me automatically not being able to do a lot of things a ''normal'' person would do.

    I dont know if this would have altered anything in the past. Maybe I would have gone to fight or maybe i would have been not allowed.

    I dont know.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:14:12 No.340747707
    >>340747595

    So you're mostly against war if YOU have to fight it, but if someone else does the dirty work, you're ok with. Figures.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:15:23 No.340747812
    If more were like us, there wouldn't have been a nazi germany.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:15:38 No.340747834
    Your fortune: Average Luck

    >>340747483
    pacifist here.

    Its simple. You dont hit someone if they hit you. You hit someone if they hit a friend of yours and there is no other way.

    I would not confront hitler directly i would stop his resources. break down roads. make fires and be a resistance fighter, make it as hard as i can for them to operate.

    i would wait for the reinforcements to arive and if there where no reinforcements there would have never been an hitler.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:16:10 No.340747882
    There's a difference between pacifism and defending yourself against aggression...
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:17:41 No.340748021
    With the start of World War II, pacifist and anti-war sentiment declined in nations affected by war. Even the communist-controlled American Peace Mobilization reversed its anti-war activism once Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, mainstream isolationist groups like the America First Committee, declined, though many smaller religious and socialist groups continued their opposition to war. Bertrand Russell argued that the necessity of defeating Adolf Hitler and the Nazis was a unique circumstance where war was not the worst of the possible evils; he called his position relative pacifism. H. G. Wells, who had joked after the armistice ending World War I that the British had suffered more from the war than they would have from submission to Germany, urged in 1941 a large-scale British offensive on the continent of Europe to combat Hitler and Nazism.[citation needed] Similarly Albert Einstein wrote: "'I loathe all armies and any kind of violence; yet I'm firmly convinced that at present these hateful weapons offer the only effective protection."[46]
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:17:46 No.340748034
    >>340747812

    >if

    That's the problem right there, pacifag, the world ISN'T like what YOU wish it was like. Why can't you understand that Nazis won't just disappear because you wish they didn't exist?

    So what do you DO when Nazis attack your country with force? What do you DO, apart from wishing?
    >> Gym Leader Jax !FighTS48e. 07/14/11(Thu)11:18:02 No.340748064
    Done my best not to go to war, fuck getting shot.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:20:54 No.340748342
    >>340747834

    >i would wait for the reinforcements to arive

    >I'd let someone else do the violence and killing necessary for my personal survival

    >I am a huge fag­got please rape my face
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:20:54 No.340748345
    >>340747221
    you implied taht all wars/combat were the same or similar.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:21:52 No.340748456
    >>340748345

    I did no such thing. I asked what pacifists would do if Nazi Germany started invading other countries as they did in 1939 with Poland.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:22:12 No.340748491
    Well I am a pacifist as long as there actually is a peaceful way out. In hitler's case war was very justified .
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:22:16 No.340748502
    >>340747834
    >> Resistance fighter.
    >>fighting
    >>not pacifism.
    what if you were ambushed? would you just let yourself die? candy-ass.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:23:44 No.340748679
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    >>340747309

    The African Front in WWII was due to the control of oilfields in Northern Africa.

    Personally I would have let Oppenheimer work, built more that 4 atomic bombs, and nuked Germany, France, & Russia.

    We would have avoided Pacific Ocean island hopping & Stalinist Russia.

    As for the French - fuck 'em! Nobody would miss their chemical-weapons-for-oil, cheese eating, wine drinking froggy bastards!
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:23:57 No.340748701
    >>340748491

    >In hitler's case war was very justified .

    So you are no pacifist?
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:25:23 No.340748857
    >>340748456
    Ah, i see. my mistake OP. Well then i would have used the early Manhattan project results and nuked Berlin. or a more logical approach, assassinate Hitler and his top brass then swoop in during the confusion. Cut the head off. Quick, efficient, save innocent lives. your plan?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:26:39 No.340749007
    i'm a pacifist, a hippie, a pothead, a liberal, also german - i think, they did what they thought was right, everyone does that. also jews are fags for not fighting back properly.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:27:10 No.340749061
    YFW war on the battlefield was replaced by economic war; instead of dying in battle, you die of side effects caused by economic decisions: unemployment, shitty jobs, shitty pay, etc. Even Hitler knew that an absence of real war would cause the war to take a different shape; nobody thinks they're at war right now, yet we are at war, and China is winning, not even the Chinese people, just the government. No epic battles, no intensity, no emotion. Instead of dying on the battlefield as heroes and men of worth, we die in offices. Bodies die on the battlefie, but the spirit lives on; spirits die in the office, bodies live on, like zombies.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:27:45 No.340749128
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    >>340746630
    >>340746630
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:27:53 No.340749145
    I wouldn't have. germany was pushed into that war by over the top taxes on the german people by the UN to 'pay for' WWI. I side with switzerland for this, i'd take in those running, but wouldn't fight other than to keep them out of my country.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:28:06 No.340749173
    Move to Switzerland.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:28:16 No.340749190
    >>340748857

    > nuked Berlin

    >pacifist

    I fail to see the pacifism in this. Weren't you one of the people who said "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity?"

    Nuking for peace is like fucking for virginity?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:28:48 No.340749266
    OP if you're an american you don't know shit about shit
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:29:36 No.340749356
    >>340749190
    >>implying i called myself a pacifist.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:30:15 No.340749442
    >>340749007

    > i think, they did what they thought was right, everyone does that.

    >the sky is blue, unless there are clouds

    How about answering the question now, pothead? What would YOU have done?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:30:32 No.340749485
    Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again

    For me to be a pacifist everyone needs 2 be a pacifist and there would be no war.

    there is no pacifism untill theres a mutual understanding about it all across the globe.

    You cant say pacifism is bad because you dont stop military countries with them. If you trully reason this way you are retarded.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:31:56 No.340749687
    >>340749145

    Germany got the Versailles Treaty to be cancelled long before they started invading Poland. Argument invalid.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:32:02 No.340749701
    >>340749061
    yfw u watch too many internetdocumentaries
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:32:57 No.340749832
    the reason i am against war is because it is merely an excuse for politicians to send young men and women to their untimely deaths for their own alterior motives. however, the third reich was simply evil and i would've considered it my moral obligation to play a part in it's downfall, even had britain (britfag here btw) not gone to war i still would have at least gone to germany and stabbed a facist or two in the face, either that or die trying
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:33:00 No.340749840
    I'm a pacifist, yet I know that someday soon there will be another American Revolution (hopefully a peaceful revolution) and I will use my rights as an individual to take up arms to defend those rights if necessary. I'd die rather than seized by the police state.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:33:05 No.340749846
    >>340749442

    nothing - as i said im a pacifist
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:33:29 No.340749901
    >>340749173

    Moving to Switzerland won't save the Poles. It may not have been apparent in my question, but I was asking for everyone's safety, not your personal wellness.

    I see now what I didn't see before: pacifists are thinking of THEMSELVES first and foremost. It all makes sense now.

    What about everyone else now? You care for "peace" (yourself) more than you care for others. That's why men who fight for others are morally superior to you.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:33:44 No.340749933
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    >>340749701
    mfw no face.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:34:01 No.340749964
    >>340749266

    >OP if you're an american you don't know shit about shit

    I'm Swiss. Guess I automatically know shit about shit now...
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:34:16 No.340749997
    >>340749933
    raining dubs in here.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:34:34 No.340750029
    >>340749356

    Yes, since I asked PACIFISTS to answer that question, and you're answering it.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:35:19 No.340750107
    >>340749933
    mfw no face
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:36:37 No.340750250
    >>340749485

    >For me to be a pacifist everyone needs 2 be a pacifist and there would be no war.

    That's precisely why there are wars, genius, because nobody agrees and some will use force.

    >there is no pacifism untill theres a mutual understanding about it all across the globe.

    Yes, captain obvious, doesn't everyone know that?

    >You cant say pacifism is bad because you dont stop military countries with them. If you trully reason this way you are retarded.

    Really? So let me get this straight: if everyone was peaceful and loving, it'd be great? No fucking shit Sherlock...

    The point you're missing is that THIS ISN'T HOW THE WORLD IS. Who's retarded now? Deal with the REAL WORLD, not with your IMAGINED WORLD.

    Your imagination wouldn't have saved anyone during WW2.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:37:29 No.340750346
    I would've prevented it's rise by not allowing the French and British utterly rape it's resources after it lost WWI, thus angering the Germans enough to bring about the rise of Hitler.

    Oh wait, I forgot warmongers have no concept of cause and effect, and think Hitler magically spawned with unlimited funds, power and support.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:37:57 No.340750393
    >>340750029
    >> if you're a pacifist, a hippie, a pothead, a Liberal, whatever
    >> a pacifist, a hippie, a pothead, a liberal, whatever
    >> a pothead
    *ding* but i have light pacifism. i wont fight unless im threatened first with great force.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:38:04 No.340750410
    >>340749832

    >the reason i am against war is because it is merely an excuse for politicians to send young men and women to their untimely deaths for their own alterior motives.

    >implying Poland sent soldiers to fight the Nazi invasion for other motives than the survival of the nation

    >YFW when Poland ceased to exist as a nation after Nazis took over, same with Austria
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:39:06 No.340750530
    >>340750250

    if everynewt gingrich knew it, then the world would be peaceful
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:40:24 No.340750688
    >>340749687
    wouldn't change the fact that it was still in effect, even if it was redacted the effects of it were still present in post WWI because the money was not there for the rebuilding effort or recovery.

    also, because wars are an international game of politics, i still wouldn't care to join in even if that wasn't there. There is worse happening now that isn't being addressed because it isn't identified as a war. (ex: is 1 prince really worth the amount of death and destruction of WWI & II? i don't think so, and if it had been up to a population's vote, rather than a political game, i would argue that it wouldn't have started.)
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:40:26 No.340750690
    >>340750346

    Nope, everyone is very aware of the causes. But understanding the causes doesn't change the past. The question is: what do you do now, 1939, Germany invades Poland. What good does it do to know what should have been done? Nothing.

    What do you do NOW?

    >pacifists live in a world of ifs
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:41:01 No.340750774
    >>340750393

    So you're no pacifist, you will resort to war if endangered.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:41:51 No.340750872
    Nothing perl harbor was a result of our blatant pacific agression
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:41:52 No.340750875
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    I kinda am a pacifist in the sense that I will never try and instigate a fight in almost any circumstance, but I will do anything to defend myself in a fight, and I don't fight fair, I will gouge your eye out with my keychain if I think I'm going to die.

    And to answer your question, I wouldn't do anything against them cause I don't give a shit about people not around me.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:41:54 No.340750879
    >>340750690
    I DO NOTHING
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:42:23 No.340750939
    >>340749964
    Beatuful fallacy, 10/10
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:42:31 No.340750953
    >>340750393
    Only if every other method not involving loss of live on either side has been used and failed.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:42:37 No.340750969
    >>340750530

    Knowing isn't agreeing. Hitler knew this very well, but he was pro-war, he believed in war as a Darwinian process to hone humanity. He thought of war just like scientists think of natural selection: the strongest remains, the weak die.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:44:06 No.340751145
    >>340750875

    >And to answer your question, I wouldn't do anything against them cause I don't give a shit about people not around me.

    ITT: pacifists reveal themselves as simply selfish and endowed with the moral responsibility of babies.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:44:28 No.340751180
    I don't understand war so maybe that makes me pacifist. If Nazi Germany would have won then shouldn't there be world peace? There wouldn't be racism or handicapped or any other shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:44:36 No.340751197
    >>340750969

    knowing is agreeing - how can i disagree with something i know?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:45:51 No.340751353
    >>340750969
    ...maybe in his rhetoric? He was the mail carrier in WWI so he grew rather fond of it (because fighting troops are most excited for news of home, always a positive reaction.)
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:45:53 No.340751357
    I probably wouldn't do much. They were evil people and they did disgusting things. I don't think attacking them physically would do very much at all.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:46:10 No.340751394
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    Time traveled back in time and killed Hitler when he was a baby.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:47:33 No.340751553
    >>340750953

    Well, Nazi troops blitzkrieging the shit out of your nation, destroying your army, killing your people, raping your wives, seizing your nation every possible way. How far will you go to avoid justified violence?

    Flash news: WW2 happened because the West was too chicken to fight Hitler when he was weak. France and the UK did EVERYTHING they could to avoid an armed conflict, thus giving Nazis the time they needed to rebuild Germany's army. If, instead of being pacifists, the West had slapped Hitler in the face, the German people would have stopped believing in Hitler, and no ww2 would have happened, because no warmonger in power in Germany, no army to do war with.

    >pacifism brought about the war because it failed to stop the prowar people in time
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:48:11 No.340751644
    >>340751180

    That is true, to some degree, but to achieve that, they had to resort to war, so what's the difference?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:48:42 No.340751706
    >>340751197

    Name anything you disagree with, and there's your example.
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    >>340747556
    >70 years
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:49:53 No.340751865
    >>340751553
    Well seeming that i'm in control of a nation, and if i was i would have spies in every neighboring country. A mix of retaliation and covert ops. then bitch to the UN.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:50:32 No.340751942
    >>340751644

    It's history. Should I care if my ancestors killed someone 50, 1000 or 100000 years ago?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:50:43 No.340751965
    >>340751353

    I have no idea how what you say connects to what I've just said.

    Couriers, in WW1, had a life expectancy of 15 days or so. It was the most dangerous job during that war. Hitler didn't do it to please soldiers, he did it because it was important. People say lots of things about Hitler, but the truth is: he was a massively courageous man.
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    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:51:36 No.340752070
    >>340751736

    I can't remember a Liberal saying he wanted war after 1939, so yeah, about 70 years.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:52:23 No.340752152
    >>340751865

    > then bitch to the UN.

    And have them do the dirty work. It's always the same argument: I'm a pacifist, I won't fight, but I don't mind someone else doing the fighting.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:52:54 No.340752213
    >>340751942

    Yes. Time makes zero difference.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:53:02 No.340752232
    We could have just *threatened them with nuking berlin. "Look what just happened to Japan, you are next unless you surrender!"
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)11:54:21 No.340752401
    >>340752152
    Well yeas and no. you said i was more or less Poland, no? i would have barely enough military to hold out a city, maybe even a province. the UN would be reinforcements.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:55:07 No.340752482
    I am a pacifist, long-haired granola-munching dyed-in-the wool tree-hugging hippie.

    And I would have killed Hitler with my titanium camping spork if I had the chance.

    I dislike war when it is not needed.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:55:29 No.340752525
    >>340752232

    >Hiroshima

    >1945

    >Poland invasion

    >1939

    Flash news, also, without German technology, the Americans could never have created the bomb. Nuclear technology was stolen from Nazis, the bomb at Hiroshima wasn't even made by Americans, it was taken directly from the Germans.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:56:43 No.340752664
    >>340752401

    You're not Poland. I'm not talking about "what should I do if I were this or that country/person", I'm talking in the absolute. What should be done?

    ITT: pacifists don't understand morals
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:57:26 No.340752747
    >>340752482

    Then how is killing a man pacifism?

    Who likes a war when it's not needed anyway?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:57:47 No.340752805
    i would have fought in the resistance most likely...im a pacifist but if someone comes at me first im gonna take action
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:58:31 No.340752890
    >>340752805

    So your pacifism is just a convenient lie.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)11:59:06 No.340752956
    >>340752747
    "the obliteration of force except in cases where it is absolutely necessary to advance the cause of peace"
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:01:50 No.340753283
    >>340752956

    > except in cases where it is absolutely necessary to advance the cause of peace

    And since that is completely subjective, might as well say nothing.
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    >>340747834

    Your advice is as incomprehensible as German to the average English speaker.

    "don't hit someone if they hit you, you hit someone if they hit a friend?"

    "pacifist"..."be a resistance fighter"

    "wait for reinforcements to arrive"

    The tl;dr of your post is "I would've done nothing, and rolled over like a bitch." Is that about right?
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:02:25 No.340753361
    >>340752664
    ITT: open ended questions in favor of the accuser.
    Ok, lets say im a country of medium strength. i am invaded by germany. caught by suprise i would lost much ground, but would retaliate, and again use espionage to my favor, as i am a very paranoid leader. in the chance i am horribly beaten during surrender talks i would pull a fast one, or if there were no talks i would not go down alone, i would unleash my entire arsenal on the capital city on Germany and Hitler's last known location. satisfied?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:02:41 No.340753383
    I'm a pacafist, but I do believe that war in necessary.

    I mean, it WOULDN'T be if everyone thought the same as I did, but most people are total arrogant fucktards with nothing better to do than start problems with other people.

    So yeah, if the world was an ideal place and filled with pacifists, there wouldn't be any problems that needed to go to such an extent as war. Or any other related act for that matter.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:02:48 No.340753402
    I would have died trying to stopthem
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:03:22 No.340753472
    >>340746630
    >implying a pacifist by definition is capable of doing anything against anything

    Pacifists are cowards who claim it takes courage to lie down and take it.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:04:29 No.340753618
    >>340753383
    >I'm a pacafist, but I do believe that war in necessary.
    If you believe war is necessary then you're not a pacifist.
    It's not surprising you think you can do both considering you can't even fucking spell a word you read 10 seconds prior to writing it.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:05:54 No.340753817
    >>340749846

    At least you're honest.
    >> Polandball 07/14/11(Thu)12:06:28 No.340753880
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    >>340752664
    >You're not Poland.

    Poland cannot into thread?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:06:55 No.340753941
    >>340752747
    America does?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:07:00 No.340753951
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    >>340753361

    >Ok, lets say im a country of medium strength.

    No.

    Did you not read what I just wrote? IN THE ABSOLUTE! You AREN'T any given party! You aren't a country, you aren't a human, you're outside of everything. I ask you what should be done for the best benefit of ALL.

    Fuck's sake.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:07:23 No.340754000
    >>340753880
    GTFO Polball.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:07:37 No.340754028
    I'd be against them OP, just as I am against you right-wing conservative douchebags. You and nazis are pretty much the same thing to me.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:07:37 No.340754031
    Your fortune: キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!

    Why would i need to worry, i live in america they have my back.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:08:13 No.340754104
    >>340753618

    Oh, spelling police is here. I made one mistake in my entire post on a word that I don't spell all that often. It's sad that you have to resort to that as an argument against my post.

    I believe war is necessary in THIS world because other people aren't pacifists. Ideally it wouldn't be. I describe myself as a pacifist because I personally don't partake in any violent acts and generally don't see them as necessary.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:09:24 No.340754256
    >>340753951
    For the benefit of all? The course of action with the greatest impact with minimal loss of life on both sides. you have my apology for not understanding you, i've been up all fucking night.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:10:27 No.340754383
    >>340753383
    >most people are total arrogant fucktards with nothing better to do than start problems with other people.

    Yeahhh, that's why we have wars. It's nothing to do with the fact that there are limited resources in the world or anything and if it was all averaged between everyone we would have a standard of living slightly above what you'd find in a third world country.
    You enjoy a first world life because of war and the exploitation of nig­gers and chinks. Think about that next time you buy a "fuck corporatism" tshirt for $5 at hot topic.
    >> GTFO Nazis Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:10:42 No.340754417
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    Dislike this video please. The uploader is a fucking Nazi and actually its pretty bad. Do something against nazis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mJVnnOOsU&feature=channel_video_title
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:10:51 No.340754444
    >>340753880

    Poland sure can. My girl is Polish, and if I ever say anything against Poland, she'll smack my face back and forth until I apologise. Love my Polish girl, she's no pacifist.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:14:16 No.340754888
    See, a common trend when trying to confront a pacifist is to demand what they would do in a situation where violence is generally deemed the only option.
    I am an absolute pacifist; meaning that I believe violence is always wrong. Even in the situation of self defense. The fact that someone is committing a violent, and by my definition wrong, action against me doesn't mean that me using violence in retaliation against the attacker is a right thing to do. Put simply, two wrongs don't make a right.

    So, to answer your question, I would have protested them peacefully and been killed for treason.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:14:34 No.340754922
    >>340754028

    >I'd be against them OP, just as I am against you right-wing conservative douchebags. You and nazis are pretty much the same thing to me.

    Thanks for proving who the real Nazi is. At no point did I talk about myself. I'm not American, so I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. Just because I point out my question at a certain type of people (the ones who are usually pacifists) doesn't mean I can't be one of them.

    It IS possible to ask a question to Liberals, while being Liberal oneself. It IS possible to ask a question to potheads while smoking weed oneself.

    Please grow up.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:15:16 No.340755018
    >>340754031

    Because the question wasn't about your personal well-being, it's about in the absolute.

    One more pacifist whose pacifism really means "I care about me only".
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:15:42 No.340755066
    I don't buy fucking T-shirts protesting anything. I just don't give a fuck.

    There are ways that things could be bettered, and certainly a way that wealth could be distributed to help everyone have a high quality of life. Assholes are too greedy and power hungry to implement a plan that would help though. So here we are, arguing about it on the internet.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:16:05 No.340755103
    >>340754256

    >The course of action with the greatest impact with minimal loss of life on both sides.

    And that is?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:16:31 No.340755161
    liberalfag here
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:16:37 No.340755180
    I would have not destroyed Germany's economy after the first world war.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:16:56 No.340755220
    >>340754383
    See
    >>340755066

    I forgot to link the post.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:16:57 No.340755221
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    >>340749901

    You and I both know that the pacifists would hold to their pacifist beliefs, at the expense of their own freedom, their families, their homes, and their livelihoods. Like any extremist ideology, it goes to far. There is a time and a place where violence needs to be met with violence, and where only violence will secure the things you hold dear.

    "Those who 'abjure' violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf. [...] these facts are grossly obvious if one's emotions do not happen to be involved: but to the kind of person named in each case they are also INTOLERABLE, and so they have to be denied, and false theories constructed upon their denial."

    George Orwell, "Notes on Nationalism," 1945-ish. (Yes, *that* George Orwell.)

    What would I do? I'd nut up, grab a rifle, and start shooting - but then I'm not a pacifist. My only regret would be that I'd have to save a bunch of simpering candy-asss who "abjure violence" who happen to live in the same country as I do, while protecting the things I love.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:17:03 No.340755239
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    >>340754383

    Woah, bravo anon, first class post. (I mean it.)
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:17:08 No.340755251
    >a pothead
    im a pothead and i still think the world would be way better if germany had won ww2. i also hate most immigrants and communists.
    >> ‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬ 07/14/11(Thu)12:17:12 No.340755261
    Your fortune: Good Luck

    OP is implying we would give up our pacifism just for the sake of survival.
    This is not the case.
    OP. Get off your computer, go to the local library, and read a fucking book on ethics and utilitarianism.
    Otherwise leave the question out of my face.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:19:00 No.340755470
    >>340754417

    >implying disliking a video on YouTube does anything against Nazis

    Typical pacifists: when it's easy and requires no strength of courage, you're for it, even if it means killing innocent children (nuking Berlin), but as soon as your ass is on the line, then you're all for peace.

    Pacifism = cowardice

    Even Nazis have more dignity than you because they have courage.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:19:23 No.340755524
    >>340755261

    This.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:20:04 No.340755593
    >>340755103
    This again, depends on the times, unless you mean a simple fight, flight, or be a dumbfuck. in which care fight. why sit there and take it if you can fight?
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:20:06 No.340755599
    >Hey pacifists,
    hey poofter puffs

    >What would you have done against Nazi Germany?
    rubbed my cock on hitler's leg then fisted your mother


    >Don't avoid the question,
    i didn't, balls of cheese and brain of yoghurt

    > if you're a pacifist,
    yep

    >a hippie, a pothead, a Liberal,
    is there a point to this labeling? does it help your tiny mind to categorise?

    > whatever, you MUST post ITT; many of us actually would like to hear your opinion.
    i rather doubt that. all you want to do is heap scorn.


    lick my shithole.
    you'd have heard most of the arguments years ago if you were really interdasted
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:22:06 No.340755839
    I would have let the candy-asss like you fight on the war. If they Germans would have taken over America (nearly impossible) I would have just moved into some remote wilderness area and disappear from society.

    Enjoy your wars candy-asss.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:24:38 No.340756167
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    >>340751865

    > bitch to the UN.

    YOU DID NOT just declare the entirety of your foreign policy consists of "bitching to the UN," did you?

    The UN is one of the most corrupt, ineffective, ineffectual political organizations on the face of this fucking planet. They pass resolutions, and member states immediately begin to look for ways to circumvent those resolutions and continue doing business with the countries being sanctioned.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:25:34 No.340756293
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    >>340755599
    This is one of my favorite post ive ever seen on newt gingrich. btw nice fulllhouse get.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:25:36 No.340756299
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    Your fortune: キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!

    nothing
    just havin fun
    >imokwiththis.jpg
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:25:58 No.340756351
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    >>340753951
    >You AREN'T any given party! You aren't a country, you aren't a human, you're outside of everything.

    How about you make it clear that you're fucking retarded in your first post instead of waiting so long.

    > I ask you what should be done for the best benefit of ALL.

    Ok, so I'm a god and I get to decide what happens with Nazi Germany?

    Fine.

    Americans and Brits join the Nazis, they kill all the roody-poos, jews, retards, gypsies and fag­gots.
    They all invade China and Japan and turn the asians into a race of subhuman, bisexual sex slaves. All asian men are forced to take estrogen from before puberty so they become delicious traps.

    Pic related; It's what you could be plowing your cock into right now if I were actually god.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:27:11 No.340756512
    Theres a point when devotion to anything has to be broken

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:27:39 No.340756580
    As a gerfag myself I find great discomfort in the fact that Germany forever will be associated with Nazis.
    I hate that, I was born in 1987, it wasn't my fault, so don't give me shit.
    All I can promise is the fact that I'll try to make it better in the future.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:27:44 No.340756595
    >>340756167
    wow, big shocker, thinking as we were talking about a ww2 era war in which the UN hadn't existed. it was simple humor you stupid roody-poo.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:28:49 No.340756744
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    >>340756595
    >mfw he doesnt know about the league of nations.
    >> Skybears25 07/14/11(Thu)12:30:06 No.340756916
    >>340746630
    i'm a pothead and i say kick their asses....just cause i smoke weed doesn't make me a pussy
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:31:49 No.340757181
    >>340756916
    >just cause i smoke weed doesn't make me a pussy

    You're right, the fact that you're an akward, obese, cowardly, socially inept weakling makes you a pussy.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:32:52 No.340757332
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    >>340756595

    > implying you weren't entirely serious with your response.

    > implying the Leage of Nations, the precursor to the modern UN, and probably only slightly LESS effective, didn't exist.

    > implying you're not trying to just cover up that you dun goofed, and now look like a tard.
    >> skaterfag 07/14/11(Thu)12:34:01 No.340757504
    >>340756744
    a plan in which most nations declined to after the US declined.
    >> Skybears25 07/14/11(Thu)12:35:05 No.340757647
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    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:36:20 No.340757820
    >>340757504
    >implying the UN isn't just as useless
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:36:28 No.340757839
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    Your fortune: ( ´_ゝ`)フーン

    I'm a Liberal but you still go to war and rape some skull. The military budget can be trimmed to address some other needs and still maintain our spot at the forefront of military prowess.

    Then again I was a liberal raised in Northern New York and I'm convinced Northeastern liberals tend to realize the thing that connects your head to your asshole is kind of spine, so you should act like you have one.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:36:39 No.340757866
    >>340757504

    Yeah, everynewt gingrich declined, except for most of Europe. Seriously, do you have to try to be this ill-informed?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations_members
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:36:58 No.340757900
    Would not have done anything,

    This planet needed to end 40 years ago.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:39:58 No.340758290
    >>340757839
    >Northeastern liberals tend to realize the thing that connects your head to your asshole is kind of spine, so you should act like you have one.

    No, you're just like any other liberal, you'll only believe your own bullshit until it actually affects you. If San Fran was attacked on Sept 11th instead of NY then you'd be the ones still bawwing about how bad war is and the San Fran fa­ggots would be calling for war and anal rape of the sandnig­gers.

    Typical liberal.
    >> Anonymous 07/14/11(Thu)12:40:41 No.340758362
    >>340751394
    Time travel?

    Send a Catholic Priest to rape Hitler when he was 7..

    Wait, send JWGacy end of hitler AND WIN WIN justice.



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