i don't want to work in a shit job, that's why

>>303295946
or are you better qualified/experianced

Agree fully. I've had full time employment since I was 18 (albeit in the military), and had part time jobs from when I was 13 to around 17. Get a job, you lazy fucking wasters.

ive been looking for a job for three months.

ive got my first phone call last saturday.

you just got lucky bro.

>>303296045

Grow up and stop being a faggot, take whatever job you can get, get good references and get an awesome job later.

i studied art

>>303296601
Idiot.

>>303296517
This, i have gone from doing some part time work at a supermarket, to now being a supervisor.

You think people got handed silverspoon jobs? You gotta earn the finer things in life.

>>303296601
Captcha Supidis match

I'm in the US and I've wondered the exact same thing.

Back in Sept '08, I decided to quit a decent-paying but frustrating job, then the world's economy went right down the shitter. I took six/seven months to just hang out, started applying again, got a job, did it for a few months, figured out the money wasn't enough, got a *second* job, did them both for almost two years.... then quit those, because I got picked up for an even bigger, better opening with a totally different company.

I have ZERO sympathy for any faggot who says they can't find a job.

fucking arsehole. it's not as simple as that though, is it? some people genuinely have no sort of experience in working, so employers don't want to take a chance on them. go back to the sixties.

>>303296601
This

I spent 6 mother fucking months looking for a job in the south east and tried everywhere.

Also bet you're an underage fag who they don't have to pay as much to.

>>303296781

Can't tell what point you're trying to make.

>>303297593

think he's saying that if we wait long enough we'll get a decent job. just gotta wait it out.

>>303297215
Shut the fuck up you idiot. Stop scrounging off of the government and get a job.

>>303297215
OP Here.

That was my problem 3 years ago, guess what, i did something about it, i worked for £1 a fecking hour on a work placment scheme FOR the experience.

Try another one, enjoy your £120 per month.

>>303295946

where do live op?

>>303297593
i think he was trying to say you got to do the shit jobs to prove you can do the better jobs, you cant just jump in to a decent job gotta earn the good ones.

>>303298351
Liverpool.

I live in central London and to get a job I would have to move out of London, which I can't afford due to lack of money.
INB4 Herp Derp Government Scrounger.

>>303297752

Surely the decent jobs go to those who work for them, those who have better qualifications or even just working their way up through shittier jobs.
I don't think waiting to have one handed to you is a good plan at all.

>>303298591

trolledgently.jpg

>>303298553

Nobody 'lives' in Liverpool. They merely get by, sadly, and without hope or expectation.

>>303298865

this. OP is fag for thinking "HERP DERP LIVERPOOL IS THE WHOLE COUNTRY, I GOT A JOB THUS EVERYONE CAN DERP"

>>303298865
Hah, win.

>>303299109
>"im so butthurt :( one of the places in england with such shitty job expecations and op got two jobs :("

couldnt agree more op. there are jobs out there for anyone, ive always been workshy, went through uni etc to avoid any real work, got my first fulltime job at 22 after about a month of leaving uni, all it took was a bit of lying about having some experience and that was that. now a year later ive saved about 6grand, im gonna travel the world shagging beautiful women while unemployed fags sit at home moaning about how the recession is the reason their lives are shit.

>>303298840

Newfag using '.jpg' extension.

Derp.

Because most people who can't get jobs have lots of grammar and spelling mistakes in their CV.

>>303297215
>some people genuinely have no sort of experience in working, so employers don't want to take a chance on them.

i wouldn't take a chance on them either, because they're apparently a lazy sack of shit with no ambition.

>>303299543

>incredibly buttmad

Cleaning toilets/McDonalds/Insert shity job here etc for the minimum wage ain't a job.. it's fucking modern slavery.

I used to make 20k a year. Job centre said if I don't take 3rd offered min wage job I'd be kicked off benefits.

I blew up their fucking job centre. Now I'm in prison. Shit was so cash.

>>303298101

£204 noob

thanks for paying ur tax btw u mad?

£53 per week for doing nothing is awesome, you jelly bro?

>>303300127
>£120-£201
>Going to be going from £950PM to £1,750PM

Yeah, sure am.

>>303295946


Shut up mum!

>Spent 3 years training as a electrician
>Got all qualifications, done nearly 800 hours work experience, need 1 year on apprenticeship to be fully qualified
>Suddenly grants for apprenticeships for people aged 16-18, just turned 19
>Companies would rather take on people with no idea and get £2000 than take on somebody that knows what they're doing
>mfw

True story

>>303300411
How does it feel to know that everyone you know probably thinks you're utterly useless and feel pity for your worthless life?

>>303299355
6 grand to travel the world? ur kidding right?

Also: im 24 been working full time since 17, saved 30k, used most of it for a deposit on a house becuz my gf had no saving. living happily ever after.

>>303300411
>>303300127

It's actually not. You end up in a shitty rut, accepting your lot in life. Been there and it's shit.

OP needs to realise though, that in some places there are just next to NO JOBS.

>>303300686

oooooh wow how impressive

>>303300411

why not get paid though. by the time you rejects get out of bed us employed fags are nearly finished for the day. and we can go out and spend £100 on a night out like it was nothing on weekends, and go afford holidays about 3 times a year. u jelly?

>>303300750

I'm sure they did away with that scheme in June last year?

honestly op, im scared of working. i have no job skills. and for some reason, i dont know why. i get so fucking nervous when i have a job. like the first week i am so nervous that everyone thinks im a complete fucking idiot. and i want to please everyone and i just end up failing hard. wtf is wrong with me

>>303295946

Unemployment in the UK as of Nov 2010 = 2.5 million

Job vacancies as of Dec 2010 = 480,000

Herp derp 2020000 people are lazy.

> Worked since I was 16
> Accident at home means I can't work
> Get on employment and support allowance
> Feet get better, can now work
> First week on Job Seekers

Way I see it I'm getting my fucking tax money back.

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Not a britfag, but I started looking for a job a while ago, but I wasn't giving enough effort. This week I really put in a lot of effort, got 2 interviews and the second interview, the manager hired me on the spot.
Quit being faggots

>>303301310
Complete respect for you, nothing at all wrong. It's the people that have never fucking worked in their lives and expect the government to subsidise their existence that piss me off.

>>303301243

Not told [ ]
Told [ ]
Is the sauce by any chance Conservative? [X]

>implying that the unemployment rate is the highest it has ever been in this country because several million people suddenly thought "Work? That's mug's game that is"

>>303301163
>can go out and spend £100 on a night

Try not being a alcoholic and you'll be even more better off

>>303301243

%age of those 480,000 jobs that are min wage cleaning fucking toilet etc jobs??

Probably 80%.

I want a job, but I ain't fucking slaving for min wage when I used to make 20k plus. After my rent, tax etc, it ain't fucking worth it either.

Never really had a problem getting work.
Work for myself nowadays.

>>303301243
>480,000 job vacanies
>2.5 million unemployed
>2 million people are screwed

>>303301834
fuck you. if you had a job you wouldent be here.

facts

there are hardly any jobs anywhere
there arent any good jobs or well paying jobs
there arent any bosses that WONT treat you like shit
there arent any co workers that wont treat you like shit
your back and feet will hurt every night everytime you work for even an hr
DEAL WITH IT

>>303301881

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=12

The point I was making is that the anecdotal "I'm amazing I got a job after looking for 2 hours" statements mean fuck all because there aren't enough jobs for all the unemployed people in the country.

>>303301896
alcoholics don't go out in town and spend £100 pound on champagne and cocaine. they sit at home drinking huge bottles of cider until they pass out. Bit different

I had a lot of trouble finding a job at 17 but now i am 18 there are shit loads. (Well where i live anyway). I just hope English lads get these jobs before the whole of Poland finds out about them.

at least we can all be happy thats its all gonna get alot fucking worse after the insane cuts kick in...

captcha: discash

>>303302097
Why wouldn't I be here if I had a job, it's 7 o'clock and I'm at home...
I can tell you don't have one as you're an illiterate fucking idiot.

>>303295946
You are a cunt.
I've handed in 20 CVs every day for 8 months and haven't had a single reply.

I just sit back and lol at the unemployed faggots here. It's fucking easy to get a job (not a nice one), and if you decide not to get one and leach off the country. Well let's just say that the conservatives have not even begun to hit you faggots yet. It'll get so bad that you'll be begging to work at McFaggots.
tl;dr fuck you lower class scum. I deliberately find tax loopholes just to avoid paying you cunts.

>>303302827
DEAL WITH IT

>>303302701

>everywhere is getting worse
>IT industry announces another 4,000 jobs next year
>and more to come

feels good man

>>303302832
Op here.

Protip, whore your CV out, sell ya self.

>>303302097
This fellow is intredasting:
>there are hardly any jobs anywhere
There's a few round where I live.
>there arent any good jobs or well paying jobs
There are if your skills and motivation are higher than the other unemployed.
>there arent any bosses that WONT treat you like shit
They wouldn't keep the decent ones if that were the case.
>there arent any co workers that wont treat you like shit
Mine are OK.
>your back and feet will hurt every night everytime you work for even an hr
er... what did you have in mind as 'work'? also i question your basic fitness. If anything I get too comfortable.

>303302097

hurdur
shut up nigger and get a fucking job i have one and i come here when i get home from work for like a hour before i go out to my second job.

OP is not a fag for once YOU LAZY BASTARDS need to stop being a bunch of cry baby niggers and work a day in your pathetic life.

INB4: umad u mad y u mad he mad or any other generic shit you can think of and no i aint same fagging you all just jelly coz we have the ballz to want more in life and the power to get it.

capcha related: to graft

>>303303244
THEY WONT HIRE ME JACKASS.!
I DONT HAVE A CAR JACKASS!
IM TIRED OF THIS SHIT

Do you in UK have problems finding doctors/nurses/etc?

I want to study a speciality in EU.

>>303302860
Conservative pig. Just get back to sucking Cameron's dick while the bankers fuck you in the arse.

>>303302860

You best be trollin, you fucking nigger.

If not, then you're a fucking pussy, who's probably only working thanks to mummy and daddy.

And no, I ain't even that much mad.

>>303302860

rofl think they wont hit working people too?

you are lower class scum to them asshole.

Just got a call, shit was so cash.

I'm gonna talk about Europe now. People cant get jobs, becouse if they did, they, or their employers would go to jail.

Its simple, really. Employment costs are too high due to governmental regulations and taxes.
People cant afford to hire anyone more. Too few people are buying their products as it is. Profit margins are often non-existant. Inflation and national debt mean that there are no availbe savings for investments, banks are unwilling to provide loans, etc... In short, its next to impossible to hire new people in accord with existing laws for the vast majority of bussinesses. And if you try to hire anyone "privately"... Well, you're labelled a profiteer, a parasite sucking the blood out of the poor workers, and thrown in jail.

OP is a fag. See:
>>303299109

It's not easy getting a job - you have to work up from shitty jobs. If there are no shitty jobs then you can't do it. It's alright saying "get a job faggot" but in some places they are just NOT THERE.
OP got lucky

i have my reasons for staying unemployed, such as fried chiken

I live in what can be essentially described in a working glass ghost town, only hiring people with experience here and in the surrounding areas, gonna be getting a job at subway or mcdonalds at this rate, which y'know just fucking sucks

>>303303578
There's are always jobs going for doctors an nurses. Doesn't matter what country you come from, just so long as you can speak English and Have a medical degree you can most likely find work as a doctor.

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This is why we cant get jobs.
25 years of age here. and at my last interview the boss told me himslef that he was looking for younger and cheaper workers. I understand because it works best for business! been unemployed for 6 months and had an interview nearly every other week. I cant do anymore than that!

duno but you sound like a bit of a keen kevin to me. you probs bore people talking about your job all the time. glad i don't know you IRL

Tyler Durden would laugh hard at all the proud minimum wage slaves in this fucking thread.

>>303303493

then get a job that doesnt need a car? like a office job or maybe working in a warehouse? you just aint looking hard enough dont just go for the jobs u want to do look for ones you can do but would rather not. Its alot easyer to get a different job when you have a job than when your unemployed you get references and can prove time keeping just take any shit job u can get ur hands on aslong as u can live on the wage and if u have to give up smoking and drinking and other such pleasures in life do it untill you have that better job.

"any in life that you want comes with a price" but are you willing to pay it or just sit there and baww about how you cant have your cake and eat it

>>303303985

^_^

>>303302860
Being a University student before the new funding scheme has come into play feels so good.
And all your tax money that gives me £21,000 over 3 years allowing me to turn up to 4 hours of lectures every week, tastes so delicious.

There were no jobs at all in my area and people just lay around smoking crack and getting wasted.
So I decided to start my own business.
I founded GlobalCorpMegaMoneyAmalgamated and appointed myself Chairman. I immediately paid myself 10 million a year salary and bought houses, yachts and bitches.
Don't know why no one thought of it before.

>>303304209

>4 hours of lectures every week
>confirmed for shit tier subject

>you get more money of benifits than you do at work

>so whats the point in working :D

can i ask something?
lets say you worked somewhere and you quit but just left. and the place your trying to work at during the interview asks why you left. what do you say?

>>303295946
its the same here in the USA my /b/rother. In California where I live, the unemployment rate is going up every day, and is now at 15%. The company I worked for went under, so I had to look for a new . Since I am not a nigger or a lazy wetback Mexican, I had enough money saved up to last me about 6 months, so I would not have to go on unemployment if this situation ever arose. Within one week of applying and going to interviews 8 hours a day, I landed a better job than where I worked before. Now I get to go back to having 1/3 of my paycheck taken out in taxes to pay for all the lazy mother fuckers who are on unemployment.

>>303304293
Geology.
We have practicals too, but I left them out of my hours to make a point.
What degree do yohave bro?

>>303304403
Not if you get a decent job, but it probably won't happen for you as you can't even spell 'benefits'.

>>303304631

more benifits for me then

>>303304403
And that is why the world is heading to the shitter. And trust me, parasites like you, and, well, at the moment me, are going to be the ones the most covered in poo.

>>303304595
wish i could tell your employer how much of a racist you are so you get fired :)

Im a manager for tesco, i often employ people with no experince or enthusiasm for the job often given them flat out full time hours with over time options and payed days off when ever they feel.

>>303304609

Math,
only ever heard of liberal arts having to go in just 4 times but if you're leaving out labs it makes sense.

>>303304534

You don't tell them about that job in the first place. Or you lie and pray they don't cantact them for a reference.

How old are you OP? You sound like you're fucking 12!

I may be employed, but there are few jobs around. It depends on where you live for a start, I had to move to even have a chance of getting a job.

Oh, and I hope the job(s) you have don't need any mathematics, as the amount you quoted is incorrect, it's about double that.

I hope the second job is to pay for lessons on not to be a cunt.

I'm living on benifits and living in a house that you tax paying faggots only dream off

taste good, me and my gf and my 3 kids are enjoying your tax pounds

>>303304858
Yeah, I got the 4 hours of lectures each week which is 4 modules.
Then I have 3 hours of practical for each module each week.

>>303304534
You bullshit your way out of it

I flat out said "I'm looking for new challenges and environments with hope of learning new skills and joining a successful company"

>>303304804

This is /b/.

>>303304534
Easy bit of spin...
'My skills were underused... couldn't develop the job into a career... no opportunities for advancement... want to contribute more and make real money'
(Whatever you do, don't admit you felt you ought to leave after groping that secretary in the stationery cupboard turned out to be a big mistake...)

1. You already have a job so that makes it easier to get a job. Jobless people are seen as lesser people by employers
2. You may have better qualifications/experience
3. Benefits are hard to come off when you get less to go to work, it makes no sense

>>303304534

Say you left because you were promised another more challenging job, but that it then fell through. I've used that before.

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and what will you say when the interviewer asks "Why did you leave the company before finding a new job?"

>>303305234

Yea, this is good too.

>>303304534

SIMON? haha you couldn't handle it jst tel the truth

>>303295946

I left school in 09, only just found an apprenticeship. I'm on an absoloutely disguisting wage, so much that my boss claims I only do 1 days work on the tax returns. Looking at it in the long run, one day I'll have a trade and be able to do what I want, when I want. Lifes' a graft and if you aren't willing to put anything in, then don't expect anything back. If you want a job; you will find one.

>>303305666
Never had that problem, lucky enough.

Seems to be general concensus here that benefits are holding people back from employment.
Time to scrap them, /b/?

>>303305666

This, Satan.

>>303305570

I was made redundant from my last job. Got an interview within days of unemployment, turned them down because they were faggots.

The moral of the story is I'm a Jew and it's expensive business hiring me. The job hunt continues.

>>303305852

Apprenticeship? Shit money, but stick in at it. Long run and all that.

Sometimes wish I'd did that instead of Uni.

Hey OP, Liverpool here to. And in work to. But its a job I fucking hate. Hope you enjoy yours more!

>>303306012

all that would say to me is "I regularly leave jobs for no good reason / I'm hiding the real reason I left"

>>303305852
I like the cut of your jib, son. You've got the balls to make it. Here, give me a call sometime, I may have something for you. 1-800-RAAWWWRRR!

I dunno... Heard something about an economical bubble collapsing not long ago... banks getting bailed out... jobs getting lost... people out of work. G20 riots... Musta been a dream.

>>303305973
OP.

God no not scrap them, just take it away from those who call it "wages" when i was in the JC on the machines, i overheard 3 chav scum bags using the term "but merr wages wunt bee paid!" - It was distasteful.

I do believe there is some that truly use as it was intended to help them get work.

>>303305666

satantrips

>>303304595

I'm the US poster from the start of the thread and I'm right next door, in Vegas. If anybody has been raped by the housing/job/everything collapse, it's here.

To the bitchass crybabies in the UK, it's really a simple setup. If you can't get hired due to not having skills, get skills. If you can't get hired because there aren't openings nearby, fucking move out. If you don't have the time/money to do either of the previous two and you don't have friends/family that can help you out, your life is shit and it'd be better for everybody if you an hero'd.

made 60k in bonus alone last year
am 23
no uni

jelly?

fucking agree with OP. When I was in 6th form those who dropped out just played call of duty 12 hours a day whereas virtually everyone who stayed on had part time jobs on top of full time study. And now I have a part time job with uni, Asda logistics, £8/hour. Wasn't difficult to find/get by a long shot.

>>303306286

Yep, utter shite money and that's if you get the mimimum legal amount which is £95 for 5 days work. I work 7am - 6pm Monday - Friday and sometimes weekends for £35 a week. I'm embarrassed to tell my friends how much I earn. It took me ages to find the job and I even offered to work for nothing to prove myself. Light at the end of the tunnel hopefully. I had my hand down a pipe this afternoon pulling out pubic hair and shite, for 35 fucking pounds.

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>>303306570

It has to be changed, but it can't just be scrapped.

Some folk, however scanky we percieve them, are 4th Generation unemployed, trapped in sink estates, and don't know any better.

What SHOULD have happened was the Govt investing in poorer areas with apprenticeships for builders etc, instead of going with the cheap option of bringing in foriegn workers.

We'd have next to ZERO unemployment now, if the Govt weren't shitty pricks.

Mechanical Engineering student (Liverpool University)

Final year

Already got 3 job offers.

Deal with it

>>303307461

(During the 2000's, when times were good, building boom etc)

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have fun with the riots/crime wave

>>303307340

I'm gonna guess plumbing?? Well, look forward to 90 quid an hour self emp, esp at winter time.
I honestly wish I'd did what you're doing.

>>303295946
Britfag reporting in, I don't get the fucking problem either. I'm well acquainted with several fucking scroungers who 'can't find a job'. Truth is they're a bunch of apathetic, work-shy cunts. Handed a notice in to my job before last, enjoyed a week of getting stoned and doing fuck all before actually attempting to get another full time position. Got one within the week.
Never signed on. :/

>>303307852
You really think the benefit scroungers who can't be arsed to get off their lazy asses and work have the motivation to riot?

How about working for benefits in government factories, you know, sort of like, if you won't work, you won't eat motherfuckah!
Gotta be better than sitting around all day.

>>303305852

Your getting workraped sideways son. Your boss will drop you like a shit sandwich the day before you hit 12 months there and you will half a half finished useless apprenticeship, i know cos it happened to me. Thats what apprenticeships are, theyre a slavery scam perpetuated on an endless supply of gullible youngsters.

And people here are congratulating you for taking it so well? Whats with the work masochism here, trying to outdo eachother for how much shit you will put up with from an employer cos your all so fucking proud.

"I work back to back 24 hour shifts for no pay, now thats what i call a work ethic, thats how you get ahead in life son, fuck all you benefit scrounging faggots, git a job."

No fuck you. Work soul destroying jobs for peanuts if you choose, you manly men you, im better off on income support for the time being.

>>303304804
My employer is white and does not hire anyone but white people because he appreciates quality work.

unemployed for 5 years.
love sleeping in until noon.
shit is so cash.

I have moral issues with working lke a slave for a pittance. None of this bullshit of the respectability of work - that's crap they feed the lower classes to keep them ignorantly happy. I also have moral issues with earning insane amounts of money unless you're giving most of it to charity. I've been infected by Disney movies.

Isn't the ideal for everyone to work a fair amount and have enough to live a good life? Honestly, I don't see why we aren't more socialist or communist. It's the basis of christianity, which is the basis of the western moral system.

The Apprenticeship wage of £95 is a fucking outrage. As someone else said though, it does give you the experience of the workplace, and believe it or not, that does count when you're applying for other jobs. Would you pick the 18y/o with experience or the one without.

Fucking shitty EU and Govt letting europeans TAKE OUR JUUBSSS!
I work in tesco, attempting to write my CV right now..

>>303305666
If you actually read my post, you will see that the company i worked for prior to this one went under.

>>303308011
Yep plumbing, heating and gas. There seems to be some misconception that because I work in a manual labour job I'm going to be as thick as two short planks. I got all A's and B's and GCSE level and just didn't fancy doing A-Levels. I don't really enjoy it (I don't know if it's just the company of the people I work with, constantly TRYING to take the piss and having a go at me, but it's work; I suppose you're not supposed to enjoy it. Don't regret going to uni mate, the grass is always greener on the other side...I sometimes wish I'd gone on to do A-Levels.

Left school at 16 with decent grades, went to college for a year, then did a year of work experience earning £30 EMA for a 35-40 hour week. Yep, less than a pound an hour, but at least it was something. Now I'm unable to do that due to changes in government scheme.
So I've had to sign on. In the past three months, I have managed to get one interview for a cleaning job. Had no luck.

Fuck you OP. Some of us are fucking killing ourselves trying. You think I like having to live with my family because I can't afford my own place? You think think I like not beng able to afford to go out with my friends?

I want a job. Any job. I don't care if I have to shovel human faeces with my bare hands all day, I'll do it. I have never earned close to minimum wage before, and when I get a job I'd be fucking delirious with joy about earning min wage.

Sometimes, there really aren't any jobs.


Though I do have such contempt for people who think minimum wage is beneath them. Pull your head out of your fucking arse, some of us would kill to earn that.

>>303295946

Not everyone wants to suck dick for living, OP

Some towns have a really low ration of Jobs to citizens.

For instance, when one job opened up in my town. Over 600 people applied for it... It was only working at Argus.

conclusion: Lazyness is a factor, but so is the part of the country you live in.

>>303308458

Might not have the best pay but the hours sure are good anon?

>>303308060

Yea, that makes perfect sense, they'll probably just lie down peacefully on their beds and wait until they starve to death.

inb4 they'll get jobs, the private sector isn't going to magic up 2 million job vacancies overnight.

>>303308742
Pretty much this..

Seriously, moral of the story is get a trade, not some bogus degree (you know the ones, 'hurr durr, I thought philosophy sounded like an easy one') that leaves you having to be trained by an employer.
Learn a skill that will help the country make the things that the rest of the world wants to buy. Germany aren't the world's second largest exporter for nothing, and they're doing OK.

>>had my hand down a pipe this afternoon pulling out pubic hair and shite, for 35 fucking pounds.

AHHAHAH u joker!!!! top man...


i was doin the same thing funnily enough except i didnt even get 35 quid......promised the missus i would return the favour since se fisted my arse last week i gave her a go

on a serious note keep at it go through shit patches and all that (no pun intended). im not giving advice but u can sort things out if you want to. sometimes lifes not a beautiful piece of art but its a decent canvas tats how i think

best regards

T.BLAIR

>>303307182
i am jelly. what the fuck do you do mate?

>>303308569
You have to die, now.

Music industry is where it's at. I get paid $23 bucks an hour to do MAYBE 3 hours of actual work a day. The rest of the time I jam in the recording studio with my co workers. I can also drink beer and smoke weed at work.

>>303308308
Half finished Apprenticeships aren't good for anyone. The training company should have tried every way to get you to achieve otherwise you would have been classed as a "non achiever" and they would have been marked down due to this.
Your boss sounds like he was a bastard. And there are plenty of them out there. Shit luck of the draw.

>>303306425

Study at Liverpool Uni, found a job in Warrington to support study, worked 25 hours a week on top of being in Uni 15+ hours a week. Some people are really lazy faggots, but me and everyone else got laid off after Christmas and now it is FUCKING hard to find a job, fuck the tories.

>>303309004

banking- relationship management

>>303309059
Why? Isn't your anger misplaced?

>>303308569
"Basic income guarantee" is the solution.

>>303308667

I know what you mean about shitty apprentice/trade banter. It's retarded.. And don't listen to faggots on here saying you're being used... valuable xp points at the very least.

Ok faggots, I'm off to rob a bookmakers, then a petrol station, before some pick-pocketing old ladies outside the bingo.

Peace out.

I train engineering apprentices for my daily crust. Their wages are shit when they start out, but most of them still live at home and all they do is run a car. After four years they're trade-qualified; six years and many of them are foremen; ten years and some are senior management and on loads more than me. Posting crap like "I have moral issues with working like a slave for a pittance" displays ignorance, short-sightedness and is a weak excuse; all that attitude does is use pride and ego as a cover for laziness.

lrn2university

>>303309342
Yes, blame the tories when it was Labour's fault in the first place. Fucking idiot.

>>303309059
Hmm, I think it's what we call TEE-ROOOOOOLLLIN' here on /b/.

>>303308308

Sit on your arse all day then mate, I couldn't give a shiny shite. I work for £35 a week. Lifes about perception, you look at it in a completely different way to the whay I look at it. He's not using me; I'm using him. I'm slowly learning and picking up new skills. Been there about 3 months now and did my first small job for a family friend at the weekend...£60 cash in my hand. You make your own luck.

>>303295946
agreed OP. Im in the US and its the same situation here. Everyone bitches about not being able to find a job. No matter how bad the economy has gotten I've always been able to find SOMETHING in less than a week. Right now I'm not working because I don't need to (got some money saved up) and I'm going to school. But if I needed a job I know I could find one by going on a full-scale job hunt,

>>303308042

similar situation /b/ro. i got 3 close freinds who dont have jobs. 1 of them is doing a test on friday to become a pat tester. 1 is just back from traveling and is doing odd jobs with family freinds etc and the last one is just a fucking bone idle cunt. he used to work the same place as me but got fired for getting stoned on nightshift. i have been employed since the day i left school almost 7 years ago. never left a job til i found a new one. wages arent great at my current job but in the summer when it gets busy we get shitloads of overtime and i can make up to £400 a week. more if i work weekends too (but thats for fags with no life :p)

I work at a training company and there are several students who went on to get jobs at placements. One went on to be a manager of some department earning a lot fucking more than me.
Lots of companies that used to take trainees are giving all their staff 90 day notices now though.
Thanks Labour!

>>303309437
No, I'm not. Actually, you are the REASON for this whole shitstorm. Personally.

I should have a job, i live in the countryside so there isnt many jobs that 17yr can get except garden centers. I went for an interview, turn up in shirt and trousers, the manager lols and said youve dressed up smart, talk for about 20 secs, dont even sit down. says there has been 3 people already interviewed, ring me like 30 secs after leaving saying i havnt got the job. find out later from sombody who works there that they turned up in jeans and hoody and got a job.

>>303307340
And that's what will make a man out of you.
So when you're 35 years old, your middle-aged ass will take nothing for granted, and you'll be grateful for your decent paying job as a plumber.

You'll understand the value of hard work, and the reward that comes from effort.

So suck it up, and remember that next time your hand is up a shite-filled toilet.

>>303309850
its called "tax evasion"

>>303303708
>>303303668
>>303303611
>>implying I'm not a banker
problem guy?

>>303309315

Fair play, the training center did try and place me, they had a month to do so before i was out of the system they phoned their contacts but there just wasnt anyone who wanted to take a trainee, and tha was 2007 beforethe economy died. My boss didnt even let them know hed sacked me off, i had to come in and tell them. I know they placed another lad in the same place not long after me too, still dont know if i should hate them for that or realise that they had no choice cos their options were very limited too.

Last i heared they had given up with the youth apprenticeship business as hopeless, and refocused on corporate training business instead.

>>303309850
I like the way you're thinking.

Went to school, worked hard, got into uni, got onto graduate scheme, got further qualification to be a profession, earn £60k, am 25. From working class background, never had anything handed to me. I don't see problem

>>303309850

u cant shit shiny shit

>>303310329
where u work cw or city?

>>303309850
Good for you, son. One person with the balls to knuckle down is worth all the whingeing poofs in this thread who think the world owes them anything.
Focus and succeed. (Don't spend it all on bitches or drugs, though).

>>303309625

Yes, because as we all know, labour caused the worldwide recession. If it weren't for the recession there would be no problem. And the tories are cutting too fast, too quickly, that's why economic growth has slowed down so much and so many economists are predicting a double dip recession. You sir, are the idiot, if you believe what the tories say.

my jobs shitty pay 190 a week, but most days i come in at LEAST 1 hour late, most days 2 half hours late, ive been doing it everyday for almost 2 year...need to sort it out but im lucky..

>>303310324

not a single fuck was given that day, no seriosly I went and bought loads of beer.

>> 303310076

Engineering sector is picking up for trainee placements this year (vehicle maint, mech eng, elec, eng, welding, fabrication etc). Last year was bad though

>>303309531
10 years before you can ACTUALLY start living your life.

wooooooo

>>303310786
think i may spend more on beer and lunch in a week than that!

cool story bro move to moston (nigger land) then try and get a job

>>303310600
Where there's shit, there's brass.

>>303310346
I'm >>303310076 and I've seen this first hand. Place some lad in a company and only know that somethings gone wrong when the lad comes in to tell us. Making us phone them and getting some bullshit excuse (he wasn't good enough, made mistakes) which makes us look bad.
These guys are just arseholes.

>>303310779
I never said that it was Labour's fault for the worldwide depression, but they did fuck all when the recession did hit. The Tories are doing what needs to be done. If it was, say, Labour in power they would have to do the same thing.

I'm 17

Neither laziness, nor fear of working, it's a rational economic decision. When a job comes along that makes working profitable, I'll bite the hand off the recruiter.

Perhaps if the NHS did its fucking job and didn't charge people in work a fortune for meds, dentistry and optical care, a minimum wage position might be a rational choice.

Is your CV ok, you got good credidentials, no stains in the record?

I get to the interviews but cant represent myself properly because Im poor and fucking depressed (because im out of money for fucking long).

So I fail there. Been to different trainee programs but end up pulling the short straw time after time again.

I suppose you are on a win-lane and that makes it count.

>>303311198

all a deficit is the amount the government earns plus the amount the government spends. If the tories allowed the economy to grow, instead of risking a double dip recession, the amount the government would earn would increase, hence the deficit would reduce. You have been convinced that cuts are the only way, but they are not. These cuts are conservative idealism. Allowing the economy to grow, as labour was doing, would be a far safer and more sustainable and logical solution.

>>303310901

Fuck you then, you me sick, your like a former friend i had who once sat down with a straight face in his house and had a go at me for being out of work for so long, being a scrounger and 'not doing my part' whilst listing all the computer shit he had stolen from his public sector workplace that month on ebay. Thats why hes my former friend.

Fuck you hypocrite scum, enjoy getting chewed up and spat out by cunt trade employers who make a living taking advantage of people with a work ethic, who will take any amount of shit without complaint.

>>303310998

It's the way the world works /b/ro. Besides, it's more like three or four, if that. I've got a 4th year electrical apprentice who's on 23k + company van before he's even fully qualified. Not too shabby for a lad who got chucked out of school at 14.

>>303310646
citi, and yes a hell of alot of conservative members ask us to invest/deal-with their monies. Why else do you think they haven't imposed a 'banker tax'

USA Northeast, health care.Looking,submitting, applying, interviewing since 09/2010. Obamacare cut my small business from hospitals and their reimbursements by 25%. Started 2 business since 1988, now they're all gone. Just taking a break....good luck to all who keep looking! I also went to art school years ago and wish I had a MBA

>>303311327

Am 17 and a femannon. I've two jobs, been doing one since I was 12 and started the second last year. I'm also in sixth form.

No excuses.

>>303311051
>Gorton is nigger land.

George Carlin:
"The rich make a LOT of money, and pay NONE of the taxes; the middle class makes a LITTLE bit of money, and pays ALL of the taxes; and, the poor are just there to scare the ***** out the middle class, and keep them going to those jobs."

>>303311991
What does being female have to do with anything? Fuck off, attention whore.

>>303311142

Thank you, some vindication for me there. Same happened to the lad next door here too, carpentry apprenticeship. Its all bollox. Last i heard he was just gonna join the fucking army now and be done with it. He never was very bright though.

never liked the idea of working
currently studying at university
planning on continue doing so till im 30ish then wait till my dad dies whos very rich
live of heir till i die

Maths lesson for OP

number of unemployed > number of jobs opportunities

>>303311892
no way! what floor you on?

ten years of labour bollocks has lead to an arrogance in the british blue collar unionised man. People seem to think that a certain wage is their right. No wonder we cannot compete with the chinese etc. Labour and its endless cycle of debt financed obscene welfare benefits turned vast swathes of the economy into de facto rentier state economies. The link between hard work and reward has been psychologically broken, and people are now in for a hell of a shock.

Ultimately a society should obviously look after its weak and marginalised, but cash handouts are not the option. Welfare benefits should remove the fixed costs of living, e.g. rent, tax, gas etc, but not provide any disposable income as they currently do.

TL;DR the north is a shit hole and they're all lazy wasters up there.

Also WHY THE FUCK is my captcha as fricking algebra equations

Take the welfare.
Learn to steal from the rich.
Instead of buying the meat - eat the rich.

>>303312669
OP here

Prostitution is always in supply.

>>303312810

what? You actually think that benefits leave the poor with disposable income?

*facepalm*

unemployed for 8 years.
50k saved in the bank @ 6% interest
going to buy 1kg gold for 45k, sell it for 80k in 2-3 yrs.

Been looking for a job for about a year and half; I've applied to everywhere i can get to to work; hell I've moved once as well, so I've applied everywhere in two separate areas. nothing. Sucks being under qualified [no job experience, no degree, just a high school diploma]

>>303313038

Yes. They actually believe it.

They also believe there is enough work and that value of humans is in their work and that people are happy when they get only food and some shithole to reside.

Thats how they think. I think they need a lesson.

>>303311782
Obvious troll is obvious but I'll take the time and effort to laugh at you regardless. Loooooadsa mooneyyyy (all tax free)

I dont think the things are going to work out. The classic jobs are gone. That means its only social tree that counts... and if youre not it in now... you are not going to be in it forever.

We gotta figure out something else troops.

>>303313038
>>303313038
>>303313038
>>303313038

hahahah yeah, i have £5 "disposable income" a month

dont blame this tory cunt though he probably gets his info from the daily mail who constantly pump out lies about benefits

>>303309850

35 pounds a week?

seriously what the fuck? i havent got ANY qualifications and work in a petrol station and get 100 pounds a day.
youre doing something wrong bro

>>303314011

i must spend £35 a week just on taxis. Ouch.

>>303314011

you're lucky

>>303312669

cool maths lesson - shame it wasn't an economics lesson

there are as many jobs as you want there to be - you can create jobs. there isn't some person in the state with a finite number of jobs for us all. this isn't communist russia. fucking get out and do something. banks are loaning again - come up with an idea. fucksake - but don't go on about how supply exceeds demand.

>>303312744
>>303312744

>>303314011
I know, I know...my friends would have the same reaction which is why I don't tell them. It's about the prospects, don't take this the wrong way but what prospects are there in working at a petrol station? In a few years I will be competant in a skilled trade and a few years after that I hope to set up my own buisness. No pain no gain eh!

>>303312126
>>303312126
>>303312126
why does this ring so true, and why aren't all of you shitheads acknowledging it?

People all complain about not finding any jobs, but the fact is that they are just too fucking picky and lazy. It has to be the right place and it has to be very interesting and rewarding and it has to pay well and blah blah blah.
I have friends who are like that. They complain constantly about how hard it is to be unemployed. I offered them the opportunity to get a job at my workplace but nooo. That was not in the right city or not the right field of what ever excuse they could find. Fuck those fuckers. I moved aways from my lovely wife, to a city far from anything just to get a job.

The best thing that could happen would be if they abolished social security completely. That would teach those lazy fuckers a lesson, and I could save some of my hard earned tax money!

>>303314151
must spend 35 a week on breakfast!

>>303314552

If by 'you' you mean the average person, no, the average person cannot create their own jobs. If by 'you' you mean the government, yes, and that is exactly what labour had tried to do. But maybe you haven't noticed the never ending surge of redundancies sweeping Britain.

i love th job centre, it's full of quality people.

>>303314858

You do not know how many people would literally get any job they could find. Your friends in no way extrapolate all of Britain

>>303314987

so the average person can't create a business? man the tories are COUNTING on these people, the innovative private sector that would bail out the public.

oh wait no you're wrong - you can. my uncle did last year after being made redundant.

so for that reason, i'm out

>>303315540

Yeah, because we all know how successful small businesses are.

>>303315433
I hope you are right, but it's not what I see. In my experience most unemployed people are unemployed because they are lazy and/or picky. I wouldn't mind though, if I didn't have to pay out of my ass in taxes for their upkeep.

>>303314904
Luckily for me I don't pay rent. I still live at home as I'm only 18. I really feel for those people who have no support from their parents. I live with a single parent and we struggle for money like everyone else, but like I said; I don't pay rent and only contribute a small amount of money towards basics like bread and milk. I am of the opinion though that if you want work you will find it. I could earn more money working in the factory down the road from my house stacking boxes, a couple of hundred more that £35 but I'm doing what I do with the future in mind. Everyday I struggle to convince myself to get out of bed and even when I'm there I can't wait to get home but that's life.

>>303315540
i wasn't allowed any money off the government to start a business with a friend because i hadnt been on the doll for 13 weeks.

>>303314904
ok ok US fag here. Just to have some economic clarity what is the average price of a loaf of bread in your country. Because of this thread 35 pounds sounds like rich and poor at the same time. Just want to get a feel.

>>303315540

Also, here's a little logic for you.

With people being made redundant, having taxes raised and benefits cut, it is hardly the economic climate to set up the millions of new businesses required now (most of which would fail in a healthy economy anyway), is it?

>>303315886
bread is about 13 pounds a loaf now. A pint of milk is around 8 pounds.

>>303315886

£1 for the shitty stuff that you wouldn't feed to ducks, £1.50+ for anything decent

>>303315795
I was gone to uni by the time I was 18. Move the fuck out, get a job, and stop claiming that you're 'depressed'. People like you piss me off.

>>303315886
you can get cheapo bread for 7p, id say average sliced loaf is about 70p - £1 and for the good stuff you can be paying as much as twice that O.O

just for clarification make 550 usd every 2 weeks and bread costs 1 usd here so its usually people squandering in my country then not enough pay. also working retail to add to this lovely job stat pool

Unemployment is a product of capitalism, not a side-effect. A large unemployment pool has to exist to keep people in fear of losing there jobs making them obedient. If there was no unemployment then the workers would have too much power.

LOL @ "banks are lending again"

>>303316109

wait so you're saying the Tories are completely WRONG?

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-itttt

>>303316213
Perhaps if you shot in Harrods.

Aoso, cut taxes and the jobs will come.

i must say state benefits are immoral.
the state steals from people who work and gives it to those who "can't". If I don't pay my taxes to this system I get thrown in jail.

Surely charity should be voluntary. I'd rather donate to causes I think are worthwhile, not be forced to give my money away at gunpoint.

If you can't find a job - make a job: No one can stop you starting a business.

>>303316331
You, kid, is a moron.
Learn2economics.

>>303315540
I love how the tories sell vital infrastructure to overseas companies with no vested interest in keeping it running, the best bit is that even when they lose money the taxpayer still have to bail them out so they can pay their shareholders! WHOOP WHOOP!

>>303316543

i was walking by Harrods earlier, full of fucking poor people buying jars of jam so they can have a Harrods shopping bag and appear rich.

I'm 18 with GCSE's currently doing A-levels. I want to get a part time job and I had one until the small company I worked for went bust...

I've now applied for 37 places and I try and call each and every one of them every day to ensure they haven't misplaced my CV and/or application form.

I've applied everywhere except 4 places for the following reasons:
Homebase: They fire you VERY quickly and can fuck up your record. Only go for them if you're willing to put out a LOT of stock

A cafe: They said my size would get in the way, I'm 6"2 and kinda fat and apparently that's not what they're looking for

A jeweller: 21 and over and have to have a large amount of experience

A small indian shop: Family owned, no-one outside of the family ever gets employed.


So, how am I doing? About a month and a half of looking and calling and still nothing. Note that I would have to cycle about 20 miles each way to get to these places...

Me and all my friends have jobs, except the one who is now 20 and is still making the same shtty excuses like " there are no jobs" or " nah dont wanna work there" hes a fucking waster, he can never go out to the pub with any one cos of no money, hes missed out on the past 4 years since everyone left school, of having fun partying smoking weed all cause he has no money or job yet every one else does, even my gf changes jobs often cos she gets bored of one and wants something new to do

>>303316617
So true. Taxation is theft.

>>303316213
What are you eating golden bread? You can get a loaf for under £1.

>>303316266
You obviously haven't ready any of my previous comments. I work as an apprentice plumber for £35 a week. How do you expect me to move out on £35 a week you mong!

ITT: People trying to justify being on benefits with pretence. Using this to imply that they are not failures at life.

>>303316617

but the real world can and will stop that business from succeeding. Benefits are needed to get people in jobs, and to give them food. Without benefits, people would die. That includes the children of those on benefits too. Yeah, not dying is so fucking immoral.

>>303316286
Thank you for the clarification(also thanks to the other posters) With that info in mind I see how the 100 pound a day worker is in good standing but the 35 a week is effectively piss poor, especially if you try to live with rent alone. Creating jobs is the American thing but remember it can't just be done by will alone you must have a. a great focused idea that can be brought into reality which leads into b. loans for original finance which the banks need a business plan. Been there done that. Not that not successful but being your own boss can be hell in itself.

>>303316899

No it's not. I consent to taxation.

Idiot.