UNSC, they fuck shit up.

>>268178625

This. MAC Blasts would fuck the federation up.

UNSC! the tungsten rounds fired by the MAC guns on-board UNSC frigates travel at 3/8 the speed of light. Enough kinetic energy to tear through a couple of Federation Ships.

>>268179535

Not to mention the Archer Missile Pods...I think that is what they are called.

Totally UNSC

No one else has an opinion on this?

inb4 butthurt star trek fags

The federation are a group of races with technology far in advance of the UNSC. The UNSC use mass drivers, which are a much less advanced technology than phasers or quantum torpedoes.

Also, the federation have teleporters. Let me set teh scene for you:
The ODSTs are dropped, a few are popped on the way down. They can't all cluster otherwise they risk all getting taken down at once. They land, some badly. A couple more are taken down as they regroup to find that...

The federation already beamed down a group next to the objective, captured it, and beamed back out.

Captcha: wideste military

UNSC ftw. not to mention, spartan boarding party.

game over man. game over.

I must mention though, UNSC ships do not have shield. This is a major setback.

ITT: Halo fanboys who have never seen a star trek episode.

Federation.

It would never come to a ground battle. There's no indication that Halo ships are well shielded or very advanced. Star Trek ships would rip em to shreds, then bomb em from orbit.

If you had said "ground battle with no ships" then clearly the UNSC would win. Federation technology and tactics are nowhere when it comes to ground battles.

probably UNSC but by fucking god don't underestimate the federation

>>268181234

Butthurt?

>>268181614

If you have 10 ships on Par with "Forward Unto Dawn" I hardly think it matters, they would fuck shit up.

All things said, its actually a pretty even fight, because the UNSC win as far as size and firepower but the Federation has a serious advantage as far as speed goes. However, the big deciding factor would be who is attacking who?

If the Federation was attacking Earth in the Halo universe, the UNSC would win, but if it was the other way around, the Federation would win.
However, if it were a skirmish or a single battle in the middle of space, I feel the UNSC would win, simply because of their massive firepower, and due to the fact that the Federations' weapons are Anit-shields, and the UNSC relies on armor instead of shields.

Admiral Cole would wipe the fucking floor with Kirk.

>>268181741
this.

>>268181614
Lol, exactly. In a fight, the federation would just beam people, or bombs, to key locations. There's no way the UNSC would stand a chance without serious technological advancement.

>>268182087
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>>268182087

This. Not to mention Jacob Keyes.

i dont care who wins because atlantis would swoop in and take out the survivors.

only a smalltime fan of either, but the humans in Halo had more or less the same combat technology we had in the 80's, only with a shinier finish. Star Trek is full of wtf laser shit and casual teleporting, so they would probably win.

>>268181989
How are phasers set to vaporize an anti-shield weapon? 1 shot, 1 kill, from a pistol-sized weapon.

>>268177906
UNSC ships have no shields, what the hell's supposed to stop me from beaming a photon torpedo onto their bridge?

The federation does have superior weapons in terms of firepower, one major setback is the speed at which they travel.

Analogy, a HE round thrown with a slingshot (federation) VS a lead ball traveling 20 times as fast (UNSC).

>>268182973

What's to stop me from turning a gas giant into a star and vaporizing your entire fucking fleet?

>>268181949
>Butthurt?
No, I've never been a trekkie but I'm calling it as I see it. Star Trek is infinitely gayer than Halo, but their technology would fuck the UNSC in the ass.

USS.Prometheus would fuck shit up with Multi-Vector Assault Mode. It splits into 3 ships and unleashes hell!!!!

Also Federation technology is much more advanced then UNSC

Faggot 12 year old "lol my halos" fagos

>>268183357
the photon the bridge would be a good start.

>>268182973

Or just firing one at it for that matter.

OP i lost your seriousness at "straight up"

>>268182988
Particle weapons don't need to travel as fast as a bullet. The highly energetic particles would contain more energy then a bullet and still be moving slower

>>268183882
Meh, the UNSC ships have armour, I'd be willing to believe they could survive an impact from outside the ship. Inside, however, the command crew and much of the ship are now a fine mist thanks to the armour containing the blast inside the ship.

Fuck the UNSC, Sergeant Johnson would slap the confederation's shit to pieces.

I honestly think at the beginning of the UNSC-Covenant war when the UNSC had an assload of ships, they would fuck shit up. Especially with people like Cole and Keyes.

The UNSC won against the covenant, whose weapon and defense technologies are similar to that of the Federation. So think about it, if the UNSC was at full power they could probably do it again.

>>268185061
Agreed.

i have a theory.

a space battle is taking place the federation is clearly winning so the UNSC decides to abort to a nearby planet. the UNSC discover that that planet used to be inhabited by the foreunner. te master chief is set to investigate some mysterious buildings. while the master chief is away the federation arrive to finish of the survivors. the master chief discovers a weapon. this weapon is capable of destroying the federation ship. master chief uses it. the federation ship is destroyed but some managed to escape to the planet. the UNSC take them out with ease. while celebrating the victory colonel john sheppard appears thru a stargate nearby. he is astonished to see the fighting and decides to lend some assisstance to the survivors. the UNSC learns about the lost city of atlantis. they want to use the technology to stop future attacks from the federation. but atlantis says no. they need the city to finish of the job on the wraith. trhe master chief is then sent to try to steel the city. but he is tired and getting old so he is having difficulties. then he somehow manages to get the upper hand. he takes the city but a light appears in the far distance. it is the ancients. they have returned to kill the master chief. when they are done they leave giving the city back to star gate command. so in the end the real winner is ATLANTIS.

UNSC using ballistic ammo and fusion tech
Star Fleet is using matter/antimatter technology, directed energy weapons, instantaneous transporting, shields, ect.

Starfleet>UNSC

Star Trek people have 44 years of experience in battles. Guys from Halo only 9 years. Winner is obvious.

OP Here, new topic.

Covenant VS United Federation of Planets.

Inb4 they couldn't even kick the UNSC's ass.

>>268185694

no they didn't, they had to wait for civil war amongst the covenant, and the flood. Earth was getting glassed, until the chief finally agreed to camwhore for the arbiter

>>268183381

This right here. I've never been to much of a trekkie, although I do enjoy it. And I pride myself on all of the time and knowledge I've invested on the Halo universe.

I love Halo, and the UNSC's got some big guns, but they barely won against the Covenant, due to outside combatants (the Flood), the Covenant civil war, and an extremely lucky find of Forerunner artifacts. The Federation would beat the UNSC nearly the same way the Covies almost did.

>>268186947
9 years?

fag.jpg

i'd say UFP. they already invented laser weapons and they have mr spock in there side. who the fuck needs a pompous AI when they got mr GODDAMN SPOCK!!!!

I bet Space Marines would purge everything in the name of the emperor...

>>268188095

Going on with this: Assuming no civil war or the flood, I think the Covenant would win.

>>268189764
seconded

Shivans

>>268188886
plus Spock can triforce even when he's dying

the fuck are you assholes talking about? I understand the Halo universe is a lot cooler than the Star Trek universe, but the UNSC doesn't even have shields, so no they'd get butt fucked by photon torpedoes

While the MAC guns are great and all, I'm fairly certain the UFP can warp into Earth orbit on the OTHER side of the guns. Now in a straight up ground fight, UNSC would kick a huge amount of ass. UFP is known for their space combat not small arms. This is a very interesting question though. Kudos OP.

>>268189807

Superheated plasma weaponry along with numerous skilled fighters and great fighters

Covenant would win

>>268190939

OP here. If that was genuine, thanks. Was just pondering the Release of Halo:Reach and the question came to mind.

the pillar of autumn is the most FUCKING badass ship in history!!!!

>>268191346

was, its now a pile of ash

>>268186947
You are wrong.. UNSC were fighting the Human resistance long before the Covenant.

All of the people that think that the Federation would use teleporters to put a bomb on a UNSC ship are mistaken. MAC rounds would take out a Federation ship WELL before it was in transporter range. Never mind that fucking Spartans would own every last pussy-foot federation bitch ever.

>>268191653

Surely they could warp travel in and manage to beam something in before quickly warping out?

The UNSC Trafalgar would have the tonnage to kill any known Star Trek faggotry.

Also, NOVA bombs can crack planets. Ask Sanghelios.

>>268177906
adeptis mechanicus battle fleet
warhammer 40k ftw

Whats a MAC round going to do? It isn't like it can actually hit a federation ship. They can go faster without even using warp drive.

The Federation would only win if they could get Queue to help them.

/thread

What does everyone think of Stargate and its bounty of ships?

>>268192326
you mean cue

>>268192294
Federation ships can't use weapons or transporters in warp, only impulse.

Put a few Spartans on a Federation ship, let them take it over. UNSC reverse engineers Federation Tech and the war is fucking over.

CHALLENGER

starcraft battleship would kick all ass

>>268192949
However you spell it.. that would be the Federation's only hope.

Besides, if the UNSC started to lose, they could just activate the Halo rings and kill everyone.

if the UNSC do not have shield technology, even the first fucking enterprise would kick their ass.

simple as that.

federation they're advanced as shit
but halo>star trek

>>268193522

Not really, as most of the federation relies upon anti-shield weaponry and there is some serious armor on the UNSC ships, as they survive several plasma attacks

>>268192974

Yeah they can, they did it in the first episode of TNG and many after that. They've also used the transported while using warp multiple times.

>>268192294
Federation ships get hit by photon torpedoes all the time, and those things move a hell of a lot slower than 3/4 the speed of light. MAC rounds would CRUSH Federation shields and ships, just like they do Covenant shields and ships.

Here is something to chew on... The Halos were actually built by Federation. The Federation were the Forerunners. Halo happens after Humanity rebuilt itself thousands of years after the Federation discovered the Flood.

>>268193313
ha its Q just dickin with you but yeah considering he's basically a god from another universe you're probably right

Master chief comes in, guns blazing. A single blast from a phaser and he's fucking gone. Also, the UNSC ships do not have shielding.

UNSC Forward Unto Dawn
Production information
Class

Frigate
Technical specifications
Length

489.8 metres (1,607 ft)
Width

155.2 metres (509 ft)
Height/depth

139.2 metres (457 ft)
Engine unit(s)

Fusion Reactor - 2 Primary/2 Secondary
Slipspace Drive

Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine
Hull

60 centimeters Titanium-A battleplate
Armament

* MAC Gun (1)
* Archer Missile (50) Pods

30 Missiles/Pod

* 2x 50mm point defense gun (4)
* Nuclear missiles (3)

>>268194217
why would i chew on something so obviously stupid and wrong?

>>268194217
except star trek is 2200s, halo is 2500s

>>268194348
Master Chief has shields.. you think a hand phaser is going to go all the way through shields.. Then why doesn't the Enterprise just have a huge array of phasers instead of photon torpedoes?

>>268194749

Because it's written somewhere that every civilization uses exactly the same calendar? When Civilization restarts, so does the record of time.

hai guise

A CHALLENGER APPEARS

capatcha-Charleston exaccoms

Firefly kicks butt!

>>268195059
but they're based off of our calenders...not that it's a terrible concept, just pointing out. maybe halos are just death stars starwars left behind a long time ago in a galaxy far far away

The UNSC has projectile weapons and no shields. To compensate they have extremely thick hulls. They can't make any FTL jumps of any kind without planning. Pros: Thick hulls and strong guns

The UFoP has ships easily capable of FTL with strong shields. They use laser weapons which are significantly faster and more accurate than a projectile weapon. Advantages: Speed/accuracy/shields

The UFoP ship would engage the fight with its longer range weapons and faster speeds. However, its lasers would literally have to burn through the hull of the UNSC ship. They would have a timeframe, too, because the UNSC ship could jump a far distance away almost instantly. So they would maneuver close and eventually give the UNSC attack range. Just a few hits of it's guns would destroy the federation ship, but they're simply too fast. Eventually they each score multiple strong blows on each other.

The winner? The UFoP ship. If it's a comparable class to the UNSC ship, it will simply mitigate too much damage and be too fast to avoid hits. It would have to stay on target for a significant amount of time and the battle would take very long. The UNSC ship and its guns are just far too slow.

>>268194217
Actually, photon torpedoes travel at superluminal speeds. Motherfucker.

CCS-class Battlecruiser
Production information
Model

Battlecruiser
Known Classes

CCS
Technical specifications
Engine unit(s)

Repulsor Engines
Shielding

Energy Shields
Hull

Unknown Hull Material
Length

1.782 kilometres (5,850 ft)[1]
Width

862 metres (2,830 ft)[1]
Height/depth

230.8 metres (757 ft)
Armament

* Pulse Laser Turrets
* Plasma Turrets
* Energy Projector (1)
* Plasma torpedo launchers

>>268193925
>>268192974
they can use the transporters at warp but they don't transport people at warp for fear of scattered molecules.

weapons defiantly work at warp

A CHALLENGER APPEARS

>>268195658
fed ships move faster then speed of light? i think your overestimating a federation ships speed versus that of a mac round ideal fight would be fed burning away while usnc tried to close the distance to use a mac round

UNSC /thread

>>268196257
Federation ships can travel thousands of times the speed of light. Also, Data vs. Master Chief

>>268181312
because the federation wouldn't be able to beam them out instantly right?

who is the protagonist?

who is the antagonist?

who is in it for good

who is in it for evil

now i ask you to politely stfu and if you could do so as well gtfo

>>268195658
That depends. After Cortana interfaced with the Forerunner construct she was able to make extremely accurate subspace jumps. I think that a UNSC AI, would be able to do massive amounts of damage if they were somehow able to commandeer a Federation ship.

UNSC would be able to recreate Federation tech fairly easily with use of a replicator. Once the UNSC got ahold of one of those, they would catch up rather quickly with weapons and then the shit would hit the fan.. HARD.

>>268188137

Technically the humans are the inheritors of all the Forerunner technology left behind after the Installation - 00 event. This provides them with a strategic advantage over everyone, as only they can activate the artifacts properly.

lol, its obvius halo could jump int space bcuz his suit lets him breath in space where they got no air and would use his rocket launcher to kill the enemy ship. i know the powr of the rocket launcher i killed two guys at once with it this one time

A CHALLENGER APPROACHES

amidoinitrite?

>>268195913
Ever watch Star Trek? I could walk faster than a photon torpedo..

photon torpedoes use antimatter right?

>>268196845
well i didnt know that but i still think in raw firepower unsc has the distinct advantage considering that it would literally tear through not only the shields but the ship as well if it could close

coming in close just isnt an option for the federation as long as the bridge is still relatively intact

in space, the battle could go either way. It would be like the Covenant fighting the UNSC in the 1st place.
Yes UNSC has no shields to block photon missils, but their armor is enforced to take such weapons. they were fighting to Covenant after all. then again, a couple photon shots back to back can blow up a Borg Ship when their shields are down so I dunno how much the armor could take.
and as for the Federation, Their shields are very helpful, but they're also surprisingly weak. and on top of that, the actual ship itself is even weaker because they depend on their shields so much. so after the shields are down from a couple rounds of firing, the Federation ships would be demolished in seconds.
but if i have to side with one or the other, I'd have to go with the Federation. They just have an advantage in space when it comes to defense and offense.

On the ground tho, UNSC would wipe the floor with the federation. I don't think I even need to go into details in how many ways. Yes the Federation has different species within it, but again, the UNSC is used to that. I think the UNSC's biggest worry would be the Klingons. Besides them, the federation would be demolished on the ground.

over all, Its a really tough decision...
fuck it. I'd have to go with UNSC.
Why? all the shields in the world dont mean shit if you have the enemy inside the shield. I can see 1 Spartan wiping out an entire ship by him/herself once on board. assuming s/he can get on board/

>>268196845
Sorry.. I've never heard of warp 1000...

>>268197319

lulz!

>>268197488

Also, I agree. The orbital MAC gun stations are powerful enough to gut capitol ships.

>>268197617
there would be no way for a spartan to get on board a federation ship. They stopped using docking bays and if a breach was detected then they would send security teams or most likely beam the intruder out.

Master Chief would see 5 lights

>>268196093
unsc+federation<any warhammer 40k army

actually i have a combo breaker!
UNSC HAS MOTHERFUCKING ADVANCED AI CALCULATIONS IN SECONDS!
UNSC HAS MOTHERFUCKING ADVANCED AI CALCULATIONS IN SECONDS!
UNSC HAS MOTHERFUCKING ADVANCED AI CALCULATIONS IN SECONDS!
UNSC HAS MOTHERFUCKING ADVANCED AI CALCULATIONS IN SECONDS!

all the speed in the world isnt going to help when you have advanced geometric algorithms aimed at you before your back in realspace

>>268198125

Riiiiiight. We all known that Spartans are no use against a team of heavily spandex clad heroes. WTF was I thinking arming them with Shiva nukes and MFDDs.

>>268197688
Warp scale is exponential not linear, warp 2 is 10x warp 1

Is That Really A Question? You And Me Both Know Who Would Win. Gaylo Faggot. We Are The Real McCoy. Right Bones?

>>268197688
Warp 9 is 1516 times the speed of light.

Faggotry thread is full of faggotry

>>268198125
Yes, because Spartans have never boarded a ship because it had shields and no access to docking bays.

Read a fucking book.

>>268199128
I stand corrected.. my apologies..

My money is still on UNSC.

>>268198552
fuckin phasers, dipshit. Just send data with a phaser and all their shitty-ass projectile weapons ain't gonna do shit, he just gonna fuck their shit up.

1 federation torps use anti matter.
2 antimatter is protected against with shields in star trek
3 halo ships do not use shields
4 antimatter , 1lb of it would literally destroy even the biggest odst ship

"Facts" about a MAC round

Orbital Defense Platforms fire a 3,000-ton slug at nearly 50% of the speed of light, around 150,000km per second
equal to approximately 8.06 petatons of TNT

can put a hole through any Covenant vessel even with fully charged shields.

IE one hit from a MAC round and the federation ship doesnt exist anymore,

>>268199534

Covered already.. Spartans have shields, that could withstand phasers.

Master Chief would KILL data, especially if he had his emotion chip turned on.

>>268197617
No they didn't. If you read the books only a few UNSC ship could stand a head on battle with the Covenant. The Covenant plasma beams would tear the basicship apart with one shot. Although i think the UNSC has one major advantage. Most ship are a smart A.I. They can get close enough with a Federationship and games over.

>>268198657
Dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a space marine

>>268199588
Technically anti-matter in the real universe does not work in that way, only one atom of a specific anti-matter element can destroy one atom of a specific matter element.
So 1 antimatter hydrogen atom can destroy<->1 matter hydrogen atom

So if the missles were made from different materials nothing would happen

>>268200080

Yes but the resulting explosion would be enough to destroy the UNSC ship.

>>268192949
you mean Q....newbs. Only been a trekkie for a few months and I know it's just Q....

>>268199877
MANY UNSC ships have limped home after taking covenant plasma fire. Also, for being anti-matter.. they don't seem to do a whole lot of damage to ships after shields have been taken down. It still takes sever to take out a Klingon Bird-Of-Prey after it loses it's shields.

>>268200080
not true
antimatter has a cascade effect. it doesnt just do 1 to 1 it turns normal mater into antimatter. eventually the chain is diminished but its a chain reaction.

you most likely got your information from a textbook pre 2009 when the hadron collider created some and they tested it effectively

>>268200445

Who the fuck cares how you spell it.. Q would be the Federation's only hope.

>>268198437
actually if you watch the episode of star trek TNG when data builds his daughter the admiral says androids are capable of trillions of calculations a second, can you beat that?

The answer of course is the GTVA Colossus

I think taht Star Trek is a pretty cool guy, eh has secks wit green chicks and DOESN'T AFRAID OF 4 LIGHTS