is the government really corrupt and the police easily bribed?

Yes - corruption is endemic at senior government and business levels. Police can be bribed over small infractions but less likely over more serious offences.

How bad is the filtering and blocking of the media? Can you watch foreign TV, how much of the internet is filtered?

Also, do they ever get over the fact you're clearly foreign, even if you speak the language fluently?

What are some good places to go?
Places to avoid?

Do you have toilets, or do you just poop in a towel then throw it away?

The Great China Firewall blocks more of the internet today that 10 years ago. Government censorship of the internet is at its highest at the moment.

Some housing compounds do have access to foreign TV but most Chinese prefer to watch local Chinese TV as it better accords with their won world views.

Is it as bad as Britain?

Language is an interesting one. In public many Chinese will stop talking freely if they think there is a foreigner close by who might be able to understand.

Yes - I can read and write simplified and speak fluent putonghua and Shanghainese.

How do relationships work out with locals (assuming this applies)?

Do you feel the quality of life is better than where you came from, and where was that?

Which part were you living in, and was it cantonese or mandarin dominant?

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>>6652528

Beijing is a great city to visit (I acknowledge bias as I lived there for 8 years). Shanghai is OK. Shanghai nightlife is amazing if you are under 30 and have a little cash to throw around.

Sichuan is spectacular - great natural scenery and amazing food.

What do they truly think about the West, America in particular. I know some Chinese foreign exchange students at my school who wanted to come because they wanted the American college experience. They seemed to be enjoying themselves here. But what do people who have never been abroad think about America?

I have spent the last five years in Shanghai. Officially a Mandarin speaking city but most all locals speak Shanghainese instead.

Relationships with locals can be fun and rewarding but I try and avoid them.

I was originally born in Germany, went to school in the UK, university in Australia and then 18 years in mainland China.

japan > china

too dumb to get a work visa in a decent country?

It's hard to say that a huge country like China (1.36 billion nd counting) ever thinks with one single opinion about something as broad as the "West".

In general, most Chinese are incredibly proud of their country and patriotic. The "West" is a place where ideas and investment come from.

What compelled you to go somewhere with less liberties, where you'd always be viewed as a foreigner as opposed to the western lifestyle and affluence?

When you say you avoid relationships with locals, does that mean you date other immigrants/foreigners or live a fairly single life?

My first post was to Tokyo (12 months). I was moved to China by my employer.

Not te smartest guy in the world, but getting a work permit for most countries would not be a problem.

>>214887552
are you married to a chinese girl ?

What job did you have in China?

Fairly single to be honest. I cringe when I see guys my age (40+) with young Chinese girls in their arms.

I originally came here with my employer and have decided for professional reasons to stay.

>>214888110

Yeah, I can understand that. Most of them want to study here but then take what they learned back to China. Do they look down on the West, like think that they are superior.

I'm just curious. I don't want to sound like some uber-patriot Americafag, but I'm just want to know.

how did you get on /b/?

Not married. I was until last year a Partner with a US-based law firm here.

Semi-retired now.

>>214888896
Why cringe dude? Go get some!

Do you know where to find all of your favorite ChanGirls, CamWhores, Femanons, and more?
You want all the pictures, videos, chats, and information that you can't get anywhere else?

1. Go to :‮gro.nahCnonameF
2. Click a few links
3. Hit F5, when the main page loads click the clover (It will appear under the search bar)
4. FAP

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A site made by Anon, for Anon.

>4759797

4chan (oddly) is not blocked but if it ever was, I would just fire up the VPN and get around the Great China Firewall that way.

Yes - most Chinese inherently believe they and their history / culture is superior to all others.

>>214889646

Is that some intrinsic value or is it taught in schools?

>>214883721
sounds like the america of the east

>>214890401
linked the wrong post
>>214889646

It is something that is passed on by most parents and certainly heavily reinforced with the education system.

Is there any animosity towards you as a foreigner by police, e.g. being particularly vigilant with id checks/visa or driving licenses?

Do Chinese people constantly try to test their highschool English on you, or do they even speak it?

Do you find you're being treated more as a tourist as you get older, as people expect retiring/older people to travel more than those who're 25-45?

Yes indeed. I have come to see that there are many many fundamental similarities between the US and China.

a foreigner in china has no real experience of what china is like

u get to watch tv, blocked some internet, china's good to its visitors.

Is pinyin actually used in China? I get that it's supposed to help with learning the phonetics for foreigners at least, but it's a biiitch.

The police are only a hassle before the major holidays here (Spring Festival etc) and when major events are to begin (Beijing Olympics, Shanghai Expo). The police presence here in Shanghai is severe at the moment due to Expo.

Many young Chinese are very keen to show their English language skills and "language exchange" is often a precursor to a relationship.

Most Chinese assume that I work as I am not that old yet (despite my very silver head of hair.

>>214886228
>>214886228
>>214886228
>>214886228
oh i fucking love arbys

How are your lungs? They gotta be feeling some pain living in Shanghai all this time.

Pinyin is used on street / subway signs but rarely seen / used outside of those limited circumstances.

I acknowledge that I will never "know" China as a Chinese national does. I have not claimed that I do.

can you use chopsticks? how much money do you earn? why aren't you married?

Lungs! Yes indeed. Pollution was terrible in Beijing between 1996 and 2008 when it was cleaned up a bit for te Olympics.

But I smoke 20-30 Marlboros a day so my lungs are my own fault.

>>214892706
I mean might as well right?

>>214892706

chinese marlboros? enjoy your cancer from fake cigarettes.

Yes I can use chopsticks.

I am semi-retired now so my "salary" is almost non-existent.

As to marriage, finding the right person to marry anywhere is tough, let alone when one is in a very foreign place.

Do you plan to leave eventually?

Once your professional interests/investments are gone, are you going to go back to the west?

I always felt that I'd love to experience the oriental life, but I could never, ever envision myself spending the rest of my life in such a different environment, with such different standards to the ones I was brought up with.

What do you think is the best way to learn Chinese?

Do chinese women actually have sideways vagoos?

>>214883721

楼主 中文名是什么

>>214893312

I was being sarcastic. I taught English in Dalian for a year and got asked those same three questions at least five times every fucking day.

A very good question indeed. I would leave if my health ever bean deteriorating as the health care system lags some way behind Europe et al.

I maintain a small number of clients and devote about 15 hours a week to my practice. Even if those clients stopped using my service it alone would not be enough to cause me to leave.

I am here because my friends (local and foreign) are here. My home is here and without wanting to sound corny, so is my heart.

在 上海也可以上4chan?

Dalian is one of my favourite Chinese cities but I would suffer those cold windy winters.

Did you enjoy the experience?

Although the culture is different, and so the way people are perceived and behave will also be different, I wonder if you've come to a conclusion about the difference in intellect between Westerners and the Chinese.

Do you find the average person you'll meet in China is more intelligent/better educated than in the West?

There is a "Shanghai 4 Chan"?

Do you know where to find all of your favorite ChanGirls, CamWhores, Femanons, and more?
You want all the pictures, videos, chats, and information that you can't get anywhere else?

1. Go to :‮gro.nahCnonameF
2. Click a few links
3. Hit F5, when the main page loads click the clover (It will appear under the search bar)
4. FAP

Now with live chats with real femanons! ^_^

A site made by Anon, for Anon.

>4778553

看 来楼主中文还不到家
我问的问题你都没回答

>>214895870
中 国的4chan是dzh.mop.com

I am not really sure what you mean by the "West". Most Chinese use "west" to mean everything that is not China / Chinese/

Education standards are high for those with access but many many Chinese have no access to good education facilities.

How far does real Chinese deviate from true communism these days (seeing as you mentioned the lack of education for many)?

Is it closer to a normal country with harsher laws than to true communism nowadays?

learn more about china

chinasmack dotcom

>>214895124

was awesome until winter and then -20 degree nights started. people see the chinese as cold and unfeeling but they are so nice. would do weird things like stop me crossing the road until they were sure it is safe and walk me to my door when drunk. good friends there still. my headmaster took me out to eat most nights and would get pissed up on bai jiu and boast about all the important people he knows. hilarious. he respected me for my boozing skills.

Have you ever seen a real dragon?

why the fuck would you ever go near that communist shithole? why are you such a goddamn liar? there's no way in hell you would be on this site in china.

>>214897024
中国是走自己道路 的社会主义国家 不是共产主义
不过现在我觉得中国比美国都还要资本主义

Communism is a goal - not a state. China describes its self as being Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.

Communism is something that is reach after political and economic transformation occurs - one such transformation requires the adoption of capitalism.

China aims to become a truly Communist state within the "next 50 years".

could you actually see China going to war with another country?

I second chinasmack for an odd insight into China's on-line community. Fauna does a great job of translating some unusual threads.

I am not sure why you think I am a liar 4chan is not blocked in mainland and even if it was I use StrongVPN (a good service) to get around the GCF.

INB4: Taiwanfags raging in here

Yes I think China feels war is necessary i its endeavour to be taken seriously as a world power. I cannot guess a timeframe though but unlikely in my life.

What is the people's relationship with the government? Do they fear it, hate it, or endorse it?

Boozing skills have probably made me more friends and clients here than any other single thing.

Glad you like Dalian and teaching English.

The population's relationship with power (the government) varies widely depending on where they live (rural or urban), what they do and the government's state of mind on any given day.

I apologies for the brevity and generality of that answer but it's a huge question.

>>214899423
>>made in europe
is that supposed to mean something? it's not like the chinese don't have their own tanks.

>>214901096
I still want to know why you would get anywhere near china. I wouldn't go there if you fucking paid me.

And you are absolutely free to make that choice. I originally came here with my employer and decided to stay.

China has been good for me professionally and I have many good friends here.

Each to their own I guess.

>>214902139
you chose oppression over freedom? most people would kill to able to leave an oppressive country.

Remembering there is no right or wrong answer:

If you could play back time, knowing you'd make other friends just as good as those elsewhere: would you still go to China? Are the experiences you've had and the use you've made of your life invaluable and irreplaceable, or would you try to have a different life elsewhere?

Would you say that the Chinese are a more open-minded or close-minded people? Are they looking ahead towards the future, or buried in ancient tradition?

>>214902530
Freedom as in.. america?

How safe are the foods there? I always hear bad things about quality.

>>214902958
doesn't matter where. you chose to live in a country that brings out fucking tanks on protesters.

If I had my time again, I would have come and stayed maybe 5-10 years. I cannot described adequately how mic I have enjoyed most of my time here and flatter myself that I have been able to make some changes to some people's lives.

Staying 18 years was a mistake though.

Food quality can indeed be problematic and there is a growing market (pardon the pun please) for organic foods here. Eating locally is a little risky but very cheap. Eating imports is safer but much more expensive.

A little from column A, and a little from column B. Many Chinese struggle under the weight of their own history but want to move ahead in a "traditional" way.

Another very good question that I apologise for not having answered fully.

>>214903687
I hope to god the chink v& just so you realize you're a fucking idiot for going there.

What is their critical weakness that we can exploit to defeat them in the upcoming war?

Upon leaving, where do you speculate you would go to? Back to the west? Would you want to leave for want of variety or for finding the more oppressive state tiresome?

And this is just me speculating from my opinion, but do you miss using English less often?

English has so many synonyms and paraphrases, pronunciations and tones to express anything you wish as eloquently or rudely as you wish. It is a language of true variety, whereas in my very limited experience (my friends at school are all HK exchange students, know them for 9 months or so) their language seems to recycle the same words very often, with very little use of synonyms, and the same tones used all the time. But then as someone who doesn't understand the language, maybe I'm missing the subtle changes in their speech? (They speak Cantonese, btw)

Sorry for a text as large as your great wall, hope you reply regardless.

Nationalism and pride (hubris) have historically been exploited in times of war.

>>214883721
fuck you OP, prove you're from china or GTFO TROLL

and by TROLL FOR THE CHINESE I MEAN FAGGOT

I would likely go back to Sydney as I do miss the beach.

Language - I thought exactly the same as your post when I first came here but slowly came to understand better the subtleties of Chinese as spoken. It is an incredibly rich language and wonderfully expressive in the right hands (i.e. not mine).

what were you smoking when you made such a stupid choice?

I am not "from" China nor have I claimed to be. I do live in Shanghai though.

What would satisfy you of the veracity of my claims to being resident here?

>>214906380
>>rich language
>>Implying there's any such thing.

>>214906750
go get arrested for utilizing your basic human rights (freedom of speech/press etc.)

Smoking? Like most other countries many smokeable substances are available in Chinese cities.

Bah, don't worry OP, we believe you are in China.

What do they think about Tibet? Do they generally ignore it or do they even have an opinion?

I have been arrested on several occasions in China. The life of a practicing lawyer is a tightrope exercise.

I am more than happy to offer "proof" if you can come up with something sensible. Otherwise, and to quote your good self, "GTFO".

>>214907420
you don't even need to smoke since the air quality is so bad. I can keep this up all day, you are a fucking retard for leaving australia.

lo mein or gtfo

Tibet and Taiwan are the two topics I cannot have a reasoned discussion with even my closest Chinese friends about. Most Han Chinese believe that the Tibetans should be grateful and thankful for their "peaceful liberation".

On Taiwan, most mainland Chinese would be happy to go to war to control Taiwan.

>>214908666
>>brainwashed chinks
>>chinks it was a good idea to go to china

I may well be a retard - yes.

Thank you for your input and insight.

>>214908666

Ah.

Well, that answers that. Thank you.

In a world is constantly becoming more unified and cohesive, should China be welcomed into this process of cultural merging or feared for it's ability to ardently stand against it, potentially grinding it to a halt?

>>214883721

You can answer anything?

Well then, why the fuck Chinese guys always in my GMail????????????

Answer that mutherfucka.

>>214909206

So what, do they actively want a war or are they willing to fight if it ever comes to that?

I guess I mean, are they willing to take the first shot?

If so, what's stopping them?

>>214909074
welcome. but that's not going to stop me. I'm just going to shitpost til you go back to living under a communist government that contributes nothing but tainted food and lead painted toys to the world. oh wait you're already doing that. sucks to be you.

I am hoping I can ask a question of you more regular users. Why when I view /b/ are the posting IDs like this:

No.214909XXX

with the last three digits just XXX? It is only on /b/ board that I expereince this.

>>214910044
moot decided to be a faggot and placed xxx

>>214910044

It was to stop the nonstop faggotry that was "look at my get!"

>>214910044
FUCKING NEWFAG SIGHTED

it's like that because moot dislikes "if this post ends in [insert number] the [insert whatever" threads

Question : Is the end of May a good time to visit Beijing and Shanghai ? Any special events I should be aware of ? I might go there ...

My own view is that over Taiwan they are willing and would take the first shot.

Taiwan is a very important part of maintaining one-Party rule in China. The basic contract the Chinese government has with its citizenry is that they will tolerate the-Party state on the condition that Taiwan is brought back to the fold.

China does not today believe that it can successfully take the island. Over time its military confidence will grow.

>>214883721

I have the chance to apply for a scholarship to china this year. It includes school fees, accommodation and 1400 yuans per month, Is that ok? because I get the feeling that that amount of money is almost nothing. Can one survive with that??

>>214911422
no. see "human rights" then realize they don't exist over there.

Thank you for the answer on the XXXs.

May and October great times to visit. Weather is lovely and fewer locals traveling.

Not the first week of either month though due to the National holidays.

Surviving on RMB 1,400 per month would be doable in some places but not others. I don't think I could survive on that in either Shanghai or Beijing.

Where is the scholarship for? Congrats on the offer also!

>>214911161
so you moved from a pretty nice country to an overcrowded communist/imperialist country why?

>>214911161

When do you think that may be?
Do they realize that if they declare war on Taiwan America may join the fight? Would that dissuade them?

>>214911808
why don't you move to north korea? you seem to like oppression enough.

>>214888896
fuck that dude, if you can get some of that fortune cookie nookie then by all means do.

China is acutely mindful of the Taiwan Defence Relations Act (and the accompanying Six Assurances).

China will attempt to take Taiwan but unlikely in my lifetime. That is a guess though.

>>214912509
the chinese economy is supported by america. if the US just refused to pay back loans/bills the chinese economy would crumble. remember when they where talking shit about how they would fuck us up if we sold tiawan weapons and they didn't do anything? they have a huge military but they can't use it.

Do you think Communism will ever truly work?

Interestingly my former job did take me to North Korea on many occasions. Comparisons between mainland China and North Korea cannot be made with any logic nor accuracy.

>>214913920
no. see: USSR

Whether it would "work" or not, I believe it is worth discussion and maybe even implementation.

It must be remembered that Communism is not like a light switch - it is the end result of a transformative process that can take many decades if not centuries.

>>214912325

The scholarship is for Beijing Language and Culture University (BLCU). It is for One year.

I have little doubts about how chinese people treats you as a foreigner student.

>>214914008
do you work for "hellhole tours" or something? let me guess you're going to move to somalia or afghanistan next?

Q: Is it realistic to get a tailored suit done in one day for under 100$ in Beijing ? It is my wildest dream. Every gentlemen need a tailored suit.

Also, is it a relatively safe city for tourists ?

>>214914672
you might want to remember that even the chinks aren't dumb enough to have a communist economy. the just like the whole "we fucking own our slav-I mean citizens"

Personal safety in the major cities is great. I have not experienced and overt challenges to my own personal safety in the years I have been here. I can stumble along home in the dark after midnight quite the worse for wear due to Guinness without having to think about being mugged.

A suit in a day for RMB 650? I don't think you would like the outcome of that.

BLCU is fantastic. But I think it would be very hard to survive on RMB 1,400 a month. A pint of Guinness alone is RMB 50.

If you lived "local" (only local restaurants, local hangouts, local entertainment, local transportation etc) you might be able to do it. I would think something like RB 2,500 is more like it though.

>>214915906

What would you recommend me then ? Please help me realize my dream :P

>>214915906
unless of course you say something bad about the rulers of china, then the cops will fucking crack down on you like you where a killer or something.

In your experience, would you agree that overall, cultures differ, but people generally stay the same?

If you want an imported fabric (Zegna for example) it will take 3-5 days and will cost around RMB 6,000 - RMB 7,000.

A local fabric (wood and poly mix) maybe 2-3 days and RMB 1,200 - RMB 1,500.

you still haven't told us what you do/provided proof that you are in china.

Yes, yes, yes. When I first moved here all I noticed were the differences. Different language, different food, different politics, different everything.

The longer stayed the more I came to realise just how surface those things were and how common the human experience is. To be loved, respected, to feel safe and that growth and development is possible etc.

Great question - thank you.

>>214916712

That makes me feel better, because I can manage to get another extra RMB 1200 per month, plus the scholarship's RMB 1400

Btw, you make me crave a Guinness right now LOL

I have said three times now that I was a lawyer but an now semi-retired.

What proof would you like?

4chan is banned in China.

/thread.

It's a bit early for a Guinness for me (it has just gone 12.25PM here) but I will raise one later today to your safe travels to Beijing.

社 會主義偉大祖國萬歲! 萬歲! 萬萬歲!

>>214919261
see
>>214889369

Yes - for 10,000 years or more!

>>214918840
To be loved, respected, to feel safe and that growth and development is possible etc.

and none of that exists in china. want to pursue a career in politics? well you better fucking stop because you aren't getting anywhere unless you agree 100% with the tyrants in power.

>>214919636

Glad to hear there is Guiness in China !!

Thank you for your considered and informed insights as to a career in the Chinese government.

>>214919191
show us some pictures. unless your camera's been confiscated or something. also I hope you know that your internet traffic is being monitored heavily.

Big Bamboo today OP?

It warms my heart to see all of this love for Guinness. I'd share a pint with you guys any day lol

The Big Bamboo was indeed a favourite watering hole especially for the rugby. But I had a falling out with Bryce about a year ago and and switched to the Long Bar.

>>214919636

Mmm and here is too late for one. And I can't find that beer easily around here.

And how chinese people is with foreigner students? Do they think you are load with tons of money and try to take advantage of you all the time like in other countries??

So you're still gardening then I take it?

G'day Dave.

Students are generally very well liked on campus and with the businesses that are specifically set up to cater for that demographic.

>>214921756

Great! I love Guinness so much LOL. So tasty and cold, and... ahhhh I need one NAO!

do you leik mudkips?

I've been studying Mandarin for awhile now and I'm hoping to study in China for anywhere from a month to a year. (I can read, speak, and write it.)
Would you recommend this? Or am I better off continuing my studies here in America?

>>214922814

So outside the campus I will be treated like pest? O.o

>>214922814
that's clever. they set it up to look nice for poor saps like you who are easily tricked. also what the fuck is an australian lawyer doing i china?

Mudkips are a delicacy is southern China. Highly sought after and highly prized. Wonderful stewed or stir fried.

>>214923327
stay in america if you enjoy being able to say anything you want and breath air that is at least somewhat healthy.

G'day. Could murder a Coopers today. Taking the little bloke for a fish in the morn.

I think you would be amazed how quickly your Mandarin would improve spending even as little as a month here.

Not only that but you would have a great chance to gain exposure to the way Mandarin is used on the street and how it is evolving (the slang aspects of the language).

Sounds very enjoyable! I am stuck at home with a head cold and shitty wet weather outside.

Say g'day to Gus and V.D. for me.

>>214923715
in soviet Russia mudkipz eat you!

>>214924420
so you just abandoned your friends and family so you could spend time in a nation that is best know for exporting cheap crap and human rights violations? I bet they loved that.

My friends and family are all regular visitors and enjoy their trips here.

Thanks again.

Is it very expensive to travel from Beijing to Melbourne?

LOL I will but I might leave out your choice of comms medium on this occasion. Great thread though.

I am sure you could find a cheap(ish) flight with either Air China or China Eastern from Melbourne. Eastern code-shares with Qantas.

It might be cheaper to fly to Shanghai and then catch a shuttle flight to Beijing though.

>>214926161
I'm sure they seem to when you're around.

>>214917844

What ?? you shattered my dreams :(( Oh well, I guess I can do with an adjusted fake armany suit or something like that.

Cheers Dave. Appreciated.

OP

I need to know this, how do you avoid being blocked by China's firewall?
I have a chinese friend with whom i chat but she can't browse youtube, i wanna help her

How hard is it for a college educated American to find an intelligent Chinese girl?

>>214927243
Mail order bride ?

4chan is not blocked in China. Sites like youtube, Twitter and Facebook are though.

The only reliable solution is a VPN. I use StrongVPN (about US$15 per month). Freedur is cheaper but a little slower.

Hope this helps.

How much public defecation do you see?

G'night OP I hope you regret your stupid decision and move back to a country that doesn't have children sewing nikes together for pennies an hour.

>>214927845
No, like a legitimate couple.

You would not find it hard to form a relationship with a mainland Chinese girl in most cities in China as long as you were culturally curious and reasonable.

Thanks for answering all of these questions OP. I'm sure all of us who aren't shitheads found this very insightful.

Public defecation is very common. As is spitting.

Its a small thing in the grand scheme of life though and most times I choose to ignore it.

Girls can dress showing what amount of skin? Do they get arrested or harassed if they dress top tanks and mini skirts?

> Public defecation is very common. As is spitting.

WHAT THE FUCK

What about picking out a Girl in a club or something ? for a 20-something guy ? Are Chinese girls shy ?

Not a problem at all.

I was expecting a much higher noise ratio to be honest. We have been lucky that the trolling was limited.

>>214928262
What if my Mandarin is bad, lets say college intermediate level... would that deter them from entering into a relationship? It's to my knowledge from friends from China that most people my age (~22) in China will speak decent English (once again, an educated Chinese girl.)

Absolutely right. Most young Chinese speak more than passable English ad often use "language exchange" as a way of getting to know potential boyfriends.

this is what OP should do.

Mini skirts etc are very common and in summer you will see lots of flesh. The police do not interfere at all as long as the "three points" are not clearly visible.

The three points are nipples, anus and vagina.

Nightlife in Shanghai s amazing and you have to be doing something very wrong to not have fond someone to go home with by 2AM.

>>214929385
So my intermediate (3 college years) of Mandarin plus some few months of living in China be enough language skill to enter into a relationship with a Chinese native?

>>214930069

Do bard close at 2am ?

>>214930069
Speaking of which, hows the STD market over there?

Yes, yes, yes.
I am house sitting for an Australian friend who speaks no Chinese at all. he found a cute, intelligent Chinese gf in his first three months here. On the sly he still goes for the occasional happy finish massage.

OP should make sure he cannot reproduce so he can't infect the world with more idiots who support the shit that goes on in china. also you didn't think I would actually leave did you?

>>214930069
so even a westerner can pickup a chinese girl by 2am?

STDs are on the rise. Always be careful.

Most bars in Shanghai are open to late and often until 6-7AM.

2AM is when I usually run out of steam and want to sleep.

is CP legal in china? because every image I post has to go through your ISP and they are watching. also the thumbnails will end up on your hard drive.

Oddly enough you are right. I was in a car accident when I was 14 and as a result cannot have children.

The world is safe.

How would you compare traditional western (more-or-less Christian) morals with China's? Is morality prominent in Chinese society?

Also, is religion taken very seriously?

CP is a grey area. The law is not terribly clear on issues of production, distribution and ages of consent.

Despite that I have not seen any mainland-made CP in my time here.

this is what happens when you move to china. you just become another faceless addition to the festering rat's nest that is communism.

Religion tends to be more common in rural areas and Hong Kong.

Morality is taught to all school children, university students and continues for those who choose (or are chosen) to enter the public service / army.

OP's brain must be in here somewhere, because he clearly hasn't used it in a long time.

OP, I just want to thank you for this incredible thread. Thank you for taking the time to share everything. As an American, I dream of going abroad, especially to China. Just ignore the assholes in this thread who rip on it or you for living there.

I raise my pint of Guinness to you, good sir!

lots of good info in here.

Absolutely my pleasure. have enjoyed answering some very good questions and promise to buy a pint (or two) to anyone who comes to visit.

Yes, how do you save this entire thread as a .jpg?

>>214932550
>>morality
you mean they teach them it's okay to censor everything they see because they don't want them actually learning?

>>(or are chosen)
AND they have forced conscription in peacetime? goddamn OP you must be the smartest motherfucker on the planet. damn I though it was brilliant that you would stay there for longer than it takes to get another flight out but you really fucking astound me.

I've read off some site that Yunan or something like that has exotic marijuana growing out in the wild there, and you can pick it up anytime you want because the locals don't really give a fuck. That true?

>>214933034

Agreed! An excellent thread deserving nothing less than a tall glass of Guinness.

>>214933450

Then raise a pint for me next time you get a chance! I'll do the same.

Cheers!

>>214933034
give me one reason why living in china would be a good idea for someone who enjoys the right to free speech and the right to bear arms (OP could get a firearm while he was living in australia too).

>>214933562
whoops forgot my picture

Far, far from conscription. Entering the military here is a dream for many poor rural villagers and the selection process is difficult (hence the "chosen").

>>214933531

FireShot - a firefox plugin which will allow you to render a full page into a raster format such as JPEG

>>214934291
>>military
>>a dream
wow that's just fucking sad

There is quite a bit of weed available in the major cities but cultivation and possession are both dealt with harshly by police and the courts.

I have a friend in Beijing who gets Yunnan bushweed in the mail from a pal of hers in Dali. Its smokeable but not great.

I do not support the right to bear arms and am therefore comfortable living somewhere where weapons are very uncommon.

really OP I have to know. what the fuck keeps you from leaving? you could easily get work back in australia and you would have twice the rights you have in china. it's fucking baffling.

>>214935157
you would rather have it that the government (IE:oppressors) are the only one who have weapons?

>>214934899
Would it be safe to venture into the mountains around Yunan to find some for self usage?

Also, if they were to find you've used it, what penalties would they give you?

Very rarely do I feel that my rights are impinged here. Very rarely.

Most of my adult-life friends are here. My home is here. Most days can believe that I have made some small changes. I love the daily constant challenges of living in a very foreign place.

These might not sound like reasons to others and I respect that.

But my life is here now and I don't envisage leaving any time soon.

I think wandering around rural Yunnan as a foreigner is a good idea - it is genuinely very beautiful there.

Possession will likely land you in a Chinese prison for up to five years. Prisons in China are not as brutal as they can be elsewhere but unpleasant nonetheless.

A final question from me: Overall, I get the sense that China isn't some godforsaken hell hole, but a culturally rich and diverse nation that's at a unique point in it's history and that despite the somewhat radical government, the people are essentially the same as anywhere else in the world. Correct?

>>214936481
still. you gave up certain freedoms in exchange for a different language. it doesn't matter if you don't "feel" like your rights are being trampled upon (you already mentioned you have to use a proxy) the ARE being stepped on. and you just don't seem to care. I guess you're just as psychotic as those masochists I posted. (see I was going somewhere with that)

Most police in mainland China do not have guns so it's a relatively level playing field.

>>214937445
it's not like they just call in the military at the first sing of unrest or anything.

Absolutely correct. Most people here are like you and I - struggling to get ahead, struggling to be loved and respected.

Countries and culture changes - people don't.

>>214937434

Any psychosis is entirely yours, Captain America

>>214937859
now you're starting to piss me off. you go on and on about being loved and respected when you choose to live in a country that restricts free speech. either you are the greatest troll know to man or a complete idiot.

Rights, either inherent or implied, are governed by law. Rarely are rights absolute.

If I felt on a regular basis that my rights were being "trampled on" I would not have stayed.

If you ever do come for a visit to experience it for yourself, I would be more than happy t buy you a beer and continue the discussion that way.

Thank you OP, thank you so much for this beautifal thread. Good luck with your life, and godspeed.

>>214937859
Ah, well I thank you for your insight OP. Although that poses the question: If the Chinese people are not to be feared, what of their nation as a whole? You've already mentioned the willingness to go to war.

itt samefag

It may well be that I am an idiot. But I have made my own choices in life and need not defend them.

>>214938086
america has nothing to do with this. you would be better off living in fucking iran. I've already said more than a few times that OP moved away from a perfectly good country (not to mention beautiful) and if he wanted to go somewhere in asia he could have just gone to japan like normal people do.

>>214938640
visit china? sure, I know a few people who've been there (mostly business trips) but none of them wanted to live there.

If I go to Hangzhou, What should I visit ?

how many times did they call you a QUAI LO

There are times I think where governments act in ways other that individual citizens would.

Having said that, most mainland Chinese are adamant that Taiwan must be conquered. This may not be entirely rational and may even be contradictory.

Nationalism has been a very effective tool in maintaining one-party rule in China.

I have not been called gweil lo for many years. You would tend to hear that in southern China.

Mostly we are referred to a lao wai or waiguo ren in the north.

alright it's 1:30 AM here and I need to be up at 6. good day/night (for real this time). I hope you come to your senses some time in the near future and move back to australia or at least south korea or something.

>>214939349
Pieces of shit like you are what give America a bad name. This man is obviously very content with his choices in life and has defended those choices very well (something which shouldn't be required). You're just too goddamn arrogant and close minded to see that your way isn't the only way.

Hangzhou is a really great city - and is slowly becoming an outer suburb on Shanghai.

The old parts of the city the lake(s) and the surrounding villages are all worth exploring in either Spring or Autumn.

I too must be off soonish. Again, I have really enjoyed being the OP (my first on 4chan) and would be more than happy to do it again some day if there was interest.

>>214941027
Fucking Agree

Do you think China would ever attempt an invasion of any major foreign country?

>>214939349

Okay, seriously, fuck you whoever you are. As a fellow American, I am ashamed to call you my countryman.

OP, don't sweat it. Most Americans (myself included) would love to go to China. We've got your back, man.

>>214941027
so you would prefer to not be able to say what you want any time you want? then move in with OP, if not then stay here and realize that even though I'm a dick I'm right.

In the medium term, China would likely only invade a foreign country if provoked or invaded itself.

It does remain my view that China will attempt to invade Taiwan in the next 20-30 years though.

Have a nice one mate, hope you have some reds and a case of G stashed away for the cold nights. I'll give you a shout next week.

Again, great thread - you have opened some eyes today.

D

Bye OP and don't forget about that Guinness :D

'night op and all

My whole professional career has been working for and with American companies and clients. With very very few exceptions you have all been thoughtful, curious, accepting and bright people.

I know that trolls are not representative. Thanks for the support andf kind comments though.

OP, are colored people looked down on there? I'm brown but I've really been looking to study abroad there.

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>>214942069
You act as if this is a static, black and white comparison. China and America are vastly different countries on a cultural level, and no man can use any sort of universal system to judge the merits of each. Different people prefer different things, and accepting that is part of what it means to be a modern human. I may not have chosen the exact path that the OP has, but I recognize that he has his reasons, and that he is content with his life.

OP, how do you compare azn ass to white women ass?

Too be entirely honest, the unfortunate answer is yes. Most people of colour find life significantly more difficult that those who are white.

That is changing but far too slowly to be frank.

>>214942069
>I'm a dick

Bingo!

Based on my limited experience of both Asian and white "ass" I can say I usually prefer non-Asian.

>>214943879
Thanks for being honest, I've heard a bit already about us being looked down on.
Well, I guess I can just look to vacation there instead of studying.

Well OP, I think I'm headed to bed. I sincerely thank you for your time and insight; it's been a wonderful experience. Next opportunity I have, I'll raise a tall pint in your honor! Goodnight, and best wishes.

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I understand completely. But don't let challenges put you off what could be an amazing life experience. I moved here in 1992 and the level of open, outward racism was incredible. But it has slowly gotten better over time and as the Chinese people have had more opportunities to interact with those of us from abroad.

>>214944293
Really? The truth is out! Aren't they tight as hell though?

>>7857529

Again my pleasure. I will return the Guinness to your goodself this afternoon.