As an avid supporter of civil liberties - including laws regarding censorship and technology, I'm concerned about reports that the trade agreement being negotiated behind closed doors may contain provisions that could harm my own civil liberties and privacy rights, and damage the environment for innovation and technological development within the United States.

I'm particularly disturbed that such a wide-reaching treaty is being rushed through negotiations by the end of this year, without any congressional oversight - senators and H.R have had no input on the treaty. Currently in its sixth round of negotiations, it includes among others the United States. As an executive agreement, all that is required is Obama's signature - and that signature once again expands the ever expanding government that are slowly taking away our basic rights.

Instead of targeting counterfeit products and coordinating the practices of national customs agencies as originally announced, leaked documents indicate that ACTA includes provisions that increase Internet intermediary liability, regulate access to the Internet and significantly affect the rights of all American citizens. As I mentioned earlier, because ACTA is being negotiated as an Executive Agreement, there is no Congressional oversight. I am worried that ACTA will threaten the carefully crafted balance of US copyright law that protects citizens' freedom of expression and has been key to the success of the US technology industry - if implemented, fair use as we know it will be gone.

>>211536956


Don't take my word for it: Attached is the leaked document that is written currently, here are a few excerpts.

Article 2.1 [US/J(Japan):Availability of Civil Procedures] [EU: Scope of the Civil Enforcement]

1. Each Party shall make available to right holders (copyright, patents, trademarks) procedures concerning the enforcement of any [US/J: intellectual property right]

[2. EU/Can/NZ: Those measures, procedures, and remedies shall also be effective, proportionate, and deterrent.]


Article 2.X: Injunctions

OPTION 1: In civil judicial proceedings concerning the enforcement of (intellectual property rights) each Party shall provide that its (judicial authorities) shall have the authority to issue an order to a party to desist from an infringement, including an order to prevent infringing goods from entering into the channels of commerce.


Skip ahead to article 2.7..
Article 2.7: Ex-Officio Action

1. Each Party (United States/Japan: shall) provide that its customs authorities may act upon their own initiative, to suspend the release of counterfeit trademark goods or SUSPECTED pirated copyright goods with respect to imported goods including counterfeit trademark goods or SUSPECTED pirated copyright goods admitted to, withdrawn from or located in free trade zones.

2. Each Party may also provide that its customs authorities may act upon their own initiative, to suspend the release of goods SUSPECTED of infringing other intellectual property rights.

Article 2.8: Provision of Information From Right Holder


With respect to the procedures described in articles 2.6 and 2.7 each, Each Party shall have in place procedures enabling right holders to supply the competent authorities with sufficient information to assist them in taking border measures provided for under this section. Each Party may authorize the competent authorities to request right holders to supply any such information.

FUCK YES DO THIS

SUPPORT BUMP

>>211537240

Article 2.11

1. Each Party Shall have in place procedures whereby the competent authorities may provide that goods that have been forfeited as infringing following a determination under article 2.10 shall be destroyed, except in exceptional circumstances.

(Giving the government the right to seize your personal electronics and, upon discovery of a single infringement, grounds for destruction?)

And finally, to top this wonderful bill off:


Article 2.13 Disclosure of Information


Where the competent authorities have made a determination under Article 2.10 that the suspected infringing goods infringe an intellectual property right, the Party shall grant its competent authorities the authority to inform the right holder of the names and addresses of the consignor, the importer, and the consignee and of the quantity of the goods in question. (Internet service providers, as an "importer", will be forced by law to comply and hand over information regarding the offender.)


President Obama implicitly supports this bill under the guise of national security - by removing what little privacy we have left and censoring our freedom of expression to the whim of Big Government.
I've attached the current bill's provisions as a backup to all I have said.
-- A concerned citizen

Stopping ACTA is more important than supporting either party. What we should ALL be doing is emailing and calling our senators/congressmen (regardless of party) and telling them that ACTA is bullshit. Tell the repubs that it's more big government and just another reason to arrest people they don't like. Tell liberals that it's a violation of free speech or something, compare it to when printing presses first came out and everyone freaked out about books being copied and distributed, even though it lead to an intellectual revolution (the renaissance).

>>211535935
where did you find any of the legal information

>>211537506

This isn't just 4chan - this is the entire fucking internet.

If it passes, we lose, guys. No more anonymous - no more anything. I'm normally the one to wait for someone else to write this shit - but this is too fucking important.

>>211538189


intarwebz - found a PDF file with the leaked provisions. Want sauce?

>>211538252
i support you

>>211538506
yes please

Telling FOX that it's bad isn't going to do anything, nor will CNN or MSNBC. These companies are all owned by the people trying to protect their intellectual properties. I doubt we'll hear much about ACTA until it's passed, even though I'm sure they know all about it.

this may be the most helpful comment

hope it does actually help

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

>>211535935
don't get all butthurt guise this will never pass trsut

>>211538729


http://www.laquadrature.net/files/201001_acta.pdf

Delivered. Is quite long, but just by the first few provisions, you can see what these fucks are planning.

>>211539209
its going to pass, money speaks dude

>>211539097


That's why you're playing the Big Government-obama-and-the-democrats-are-evil card.

Hopefully, they'll just eat right into it. You are correct about the companies though - but I'm banking on Fox's sheer hate for the democrats for them to pull this through.

the scariest thing is how few people know about this. We've heard nothing. What does this mean?

>>211535935
i will be an heroing once this shit hits the fan.. srs

Don't know if troll

>>211539975
no troll bro, this shits for reals

also, did anyone hear about the gov't sting on the militia in michigan today?

doesnt it seem a little too convenient?

>>211539720

The owner of FOX would go far left liberal if it would make him more money. They're protecting their properties man, it's not going to get on the air, I guarantee it.

>>211540368

I heard all about it, what do you mean by too convenient? I'm in the midwest and I can assure you that there are more than a couple militia groups like this one.

americans troll fox and now beg them for help, lulz

>>211540447


anon has pulled off some crazy shit before - you never know, man.

Anything is better than sitting on our asses while watching this piece of shit bill go into effect.

"By the corporations, for the corporations."

The politicians dont give a fuck about anything as long as some corporation is putting money in their pockets.

They do this shit they better legalize weed, what the hell are we gonna do to keep entertained?

>>211541236

in b4 ron paul

>>211540780
yeah, i know of the militias, im actually joining an athiest one myself sooner or later

but its just like, militias are generally close recruiting/screening, very careful about what they say and do etc etc

this was just like HAY GUIZE IMA BOMB SOME BITCHES ETC ETC

and then the gov't gets in just in time to stop them and arrests everyone

it sounds like a setup, to like, get people used to the idea of a gov't as a savior,

im used to working with militia dudes, and to publish a internet article on how to make IEDs etc etc on the website just seems too....blatant for even radical christians...

somethings not right about it

If someone hasn't already, the EFF has a press release out... worth reading. We must fight this. http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/leaked-acta-internet-provisions-three-strikes-and-

We need to overthrow the US government. All they care about is fucking money. It's a shame I live there.

>>211541211

I guess it's worth a try, but a more worthwhile effort would be to get organized, get real people on real streets under that burning sun. The internet is a big place with a lot of people on them. If we got really organized, like Moot making an anti-ACTA board for all boards to congregate in and plan on, then we could do something. We would have to put all our differences aside (recruit AnT, Ebaums, the other chans) and get out onto the streets and protest. We could have threads for every area, states with enough people could congregate at capitols, other states (South/North Dakota) could get together with other states and have demonstrations too. We can stop this, they can't ignore protests that are happening throughout the country. I suppose Eurofags could do this too, protests worldwide.

http://www.osnews.com/story/23002/Obama_Sides_with_RIAA_MPAA_Backs_ACTA

So much bullshit.

This is why I hate copyright in the first place. "OH NOES YOU WATCHED MY MOVIE WITHOUT PAYING ME HURR".

Seriously, if you are a TRUE artist, the money doesn't matter. It's all about putting yourself out there and touching people's lives. I realize it's mostly the companies who put money into the artist though.

I'm an American and I admit that most of this copyright shit started in the United States and is most anally protected by the same. We're the reason international law has been going toward pro-copyright enforcement. We keep letting middlemen bone us in every way possible. If this law passes as written, they win. The money-grubbing investors who didn't put ANY effort into creating art are going to make most of the money off of everything.

I'm usually pretty conservative in my morals but when it comes to money I think this is just way too strict. Why is Obama supporting such a freedom-limiting bill in the first place? I mean fuck he's supposed to be a liberal.

If this passes I'm going to support independent films and anything that is legitimately free. If you copyright something, then fuck you. Copyright would be okay if it was just a record that YOU created something so others couldn't take credit for it. But nobody cares about that aspect. They just care who's getting paid.

I'm tired of my own country trying to push its insane standards upon everyone, within itself and internationally.

If this goes too far, I say revolution.

be sure to send it to the ACLU as well.

>>211542822
THIS

Ron Paul isnt going to save shit. Fuck him.

How to get a 4chan Gold Account:

1. Go to‮ten.dlognahc4
2. Click a few links.
3. ?????
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Stop being a newfag and get it.

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>>211542822

I think you are onto something. Moot should make a board specifically dedicated to ACTA.

>>211542460

Don't be a retard, fight for change, not to fuck the whole country over for the next hundred years. Overthrowing the gov't is something a teenager would say, ours isn't that bad, it can still be fixed.

>>211535935
Good job op

Rupert Murdoch would probably be a supporter of ACTA.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
- Abraham Lincoln

Fuck your signs, fuck your petitions, fuck your little rallies, fuck your savior politicians, fuck your hope, fuck your dreams, fuck the left, fuck the right, fuck the constitution, fuck the cops, fuck the judges, fuck the media, fuck the teachers, fuck the flag, fuck the rich, fuck the poor, fuck the corporations, fuck the charities, fuck the whites, fuck the blacks, fuck unity and fuck everything else I left out.

...

JUST START BURNING SHIT DOWN.

>>211543555

LOL, I am a teenager. . .

again, info for the masses, its the acta leak

download it, print it, leave it places

we need to start getting things done anon

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

How can it even legally BE an executive agreement? We have a system of checks and balances so that one branch doesn't overpower the others. Is there no way to petition it to be seen and voted on by the legislative and judicial branches?

>>211539209

This guy's right. Who the fuck actually believes this bull shit???

I believe wikileaks has the leaked content as well. they were down for a while due to lack of funding, and if anyone should get our lunch money, its sites like wikileaks.

>>211542822

What do we do to get this to happen? I think that every member of every board can agree with this, regardless of whatever differences they have. When we put boots to the ground we'll be noticed, mailing the companies that are fighting for it won't do any good.

>>211544031

That is a good picture. Cops are supposed to make you feel safe, but whenever they are around I tend to feel very anxious and just not safe.

>>211512246

linking other /b/oard in which shit is happening

>>211544540
What bullshit? ACTA is a very real, very serious threat to the future of the internet in favor of harsh, draconian IP enforcement regulations.

I am going to destroy a few things in this world. I will see you on the news. I am the last of /b/.

>>211543906
will:

governments should fear the people, not the other way around

If this goes though i will be by your side, burning shit down

Are we going to be internet guerrillas?

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this shit is being hung everywhere i go

>>211544718
exactly, cops are meant to protect and serve, but its protecting their interests and serving their wallets now,

shit needs to change, its fucking aweful in arizona, worst place i've ever been as far as police
>>211544540
you fucking idiot, you dont seem to understand, this is bigger than your 'rights' etc etc, its guys who think they can do whatever the fuck they want without consequences

its happened with gov'ts around the world, there is no inheirent right or wrong, no one to keep anyone in balance, its a power struggle, the man keeping us in check

it will pass because money allows it to

Fox News, always giving 120%.

http://www.fucktube.com/video/34073/two-horny-couples-are-getting-on-in-a-public-beach

I am going to make this known. This needs to be stopped. This is not going to be the end times on my watch. Goddammit. Power to the people.

>>211545635
im printing a ton and hanging/spraying them all over tucson as it stands

do the same, spread the word, even if you only make one person question..its one more on our side

it only takes a spark brothers

are you fucking kidding? Fox News corp would love to back ACTA. Think of all they have to gain... To be fair think of what every media corporation has to gain here. Be careful who you get to back you. You don't want to see this story on fox news followed by live footage of some toothless racist redneck yelling "Down for the ACTA!" in the background.

Personally I think this will have to gain more momentum before the media will see the user's side of the story. Everyone should start papering their classrooms and campuses with this information before you start trusting fox news to do something good for you.

>>211538252

I AM NOT KISSING THE INTERNET GOODBYE YET. IM NOT LETTING GO OF THE INTERNET. THOSE FUCKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PRY MY MODEM OUT OF MY COLD, DEAD, LIFELESS HANDS

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>>211544500

Its a treay with several other countries.

And treaties go into law once the President signs it. Congress dont have shit to do with treaties.

BAD STUFF IS BAD

Anyone know the ACLU's stance on this issue? They have a pretty good history on things like this, and they're a hell of a lot more legitimate than FOX.

>>211546364

also, treaties with other countries are not subjected to the restrictions of the constitution.

Lets get one thing straight:

We have no set friends or enemies. Those who may be an enemy in one battle is a friendly in another. Other parties outside of Anon are the mere means to our goals. Under no circumstances do we endorse anyone. We simply just use them to our convenience.

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ACLU is all about civil liberties. they do crazy ass shit. they would have a field day with this. we need to inform them, all of us.

arizonafag here

this is relevant to everyone regardless of location

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/PM_8-94_How_to_Start_&_Train_Militia_Units.pdf

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/Ranger_Handbook_2006.pdf

>>211547042

Agreed. The ACLU is one of those groups that can be your best ally, but also be your worst enemy. The ACLU does have a robust legal team that is extremely good at what they do.

>>211535935


OP here - after several failures in lowering the PDF files, I've finally got it to go through.

to glennbeck@foxnews.com,
studiob@foxnews.com,
ontherecord@foxnews.com,
oreilly@foxnews.com,
foxreport@foxnews.com

Dear god....... could it be that we anonymous are to cause the world to fall into chaos in 2012 .............. all hail legion where ever shall i die 10 more will come up in my place and thus the endless cycle of decay as we sit here everyday not being phased by gore or people getting shot and killed or even raped to death because one day something big will happen and it will be me, you,and anyone who declares themselves anonymous for we shall rule with power so heed my words now learn as much as you can look at more gore more people getting raped, burned alive,getting shot etc etc.... for we shall be the last stand against the final boss of the internet which is in itself is not truely a complete part of the internet but as a simple plan to restrain our laws we must fight /b/rethren and destroy all the non believers in hopes of a better future

that is all.

Basically what this is going to do is turn the internet into a TV like system where certain website wont be available unless you pay for them.

Also EVERYTHING on the net with be scrutinized for copyright infringement.

If an eight year old kid draws a shitty picture of Dora the Explorer, she can be sued for copyright infringement.

This would pretty much kill 99% of all traffic to sites like 4chan and other sites of free expression were images might be used to send a message.

You wont be able to do shit, the whole fucking internet will just be one big fucking advertisement and there will be nothing but corporation websites.

To me the internet is truly the last free place left. If this passes, we are no more.

I think Anon needs to start holding our own protests all over the country about this. We can organize local factions to protest and spread the word.

We could be 20x the size of the Tea Parties and take over the media spotlight.

arizonafag here

gathering any ideas from anyone here, lets organize awareness,

we have to do this, its our duty,

we can no longer stand aside and let this happen,

change starts with us

ughtmw7@hotmail.com

>>211547502
TYVM

As much as I abhor Fox News and other skewed news networks, this needs to have more attention and more shit done about it. As long as people hear it, see it, they're going to learn about it, regardless of who's fucking opinion is being inserted into it. I'm emailing Fox, I'm calling my congressmess, my Representatives AND my Senators. I'm called the White House, I'm making signs and banners and stencils. The internet isn't an alternate reality anymore, it's as much a facet of real life as anything else now; if it happens on here, it's going to make it into the real world. We need to stop this. We need to stop this. We need to stop this. We need to stop this.

>>1473055

If this gets as bad as I'm afraid of, if we're NOT blowing it out of proportion, then I will join a resistance. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people. NOT of, by, and for money.

>>211548268
I agree that if it comes to it we must join together and take a stand for our privacy rights... it's that or 90% of the youth will be criminalized and or sued for copyright infringement and all the world will give in to unconsitutional governmental powers. Once this thing goes through, there is no stop to what they will do in time.

>>211548831
make sure you read everything in it, and dont make the mistakes the 'militia' in michigan made today

knowledge is power brother

>>211548953


OP here - appreciated. As much as it pained me to mail Fixed News, we're running out of options as the deadline draws closer. This shit can be in effect by September, if my sources are correct.

>>211549488
if you wait till then, it may be too late, excuse my tone, but in all seriousness, it will prolly be the case

why wait till they are knocking down your door before you worry?

I thought the patriot act was bad.

Looks like we'll be getting a taste of what the Chinese have been drinking for quite some time.

Government uses fear. The government should fear us. They have us gripping to our jobs because they have destroyed this nation while they rape every paycheck to fund the war machine and every piece of shit legislature to destroy freedom.

Fox News is the only network that dares criticize the Messiah. That's why you need them now, you dumb liberal fucks.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A 1 PAGE (SIMPLE) OUTLINE OF THIS ACT SO IT CAN BE POSTED ON WALLS SO THAT EVEN THE DIMMEST PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

>>211547502
so much better than the csa's site
>>211548268
NO! THAT'S WHAT GOT US INTO ETERNAL SEPTEMBER! REMEMBER FAGOLOGY? NO
1 OUR POWER IS ON THE INTERNET! GODDAM! /rageoff

HOW THE FUCK CAN I EMAIL THE ACLU?

>>211549787
I absolutely agree. We need to make a page of some sort for this.

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>>211549809
I just meant that they need to tell us something. They know there's a leak. If they won't address the issue publicly and continue to refuse then I'll take action. I don't want to start shit and have it happen that there was nothing to worry about and I'm in trouble for taking things too far for nothing.

>>211550057
arizonafag here, thanks, like i said, study it, read it, make it your scripture,

this is serious stuff guys

we cant wait for things to "get bad" before we act

i would rather act too soon and kill the cancer before its too late and were helpless

spread whatever info you deem vital to others

>>211550690
I for one will welcome the carnage.

>>211550690
again, someone make a page where we can share our resources and discuss further. it's too important.

eurofags need to be all over this as well. we need to make this international

>>211542822
THIS!!

>>211544540
Look guy...I want to see pics of your crystal ball if you are so sure it won't happen.

So it looks like the steps are:
1. Contact all media groups, Senators, Congressmen.
2. Ask moot for his help, if anyone can help us organize its him.
3. Tell people you know, there's easily a way to convince any diehard liberal or republican that this will hurt them.
4. Don't forget about this.

>>211549947


OP here.


Basic rundown:

ACTA will ensure that the government, at their own discretion, may seize your electronics in suspicion of harboring copyrighted material. If found, it is grounds for immediate destruction. The bill will force ISP's to hand information over to the government for suspected illegal file sharing, or in violation of their copyright rights. Fair use will be, essentially, void.

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do what you can, whatever you summarize will be a step up for all of us, we cant wait for others, im doing my part to organize militias and protests in arizona

do yours by reading and comprehending at the least

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

also, email me for ideas/questions/motivations/means to an end of this

my resources are yours brothers

ughtmw7@hotmail.com

>>211549947
>>211549947
Utmost Truth. I'm a composer, and a writer, that's what I'm studying anyway. If it's going to be a real, heated, true protest, we need people knowing about it, working to fix it, and even more? Singing about it. Seriously, protest songs motherfuckers. What makes a riot chant a beautiful assembly of freedom and speech? Music.

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ITT

acne &
teenage angst

well shit /b/ is plagued with acne so just ignore that part

OP is a fucking idiot if he thinks this could ever happen. It's just like the morons saying the government wants to take away free TV and radio, I'm not even gonna waste time explaining why that doesn't make any sense.

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>>211551674
speak for yourself stoner/lazyfag

we may be cause oriented, only because this is a matter of some concern

go wait in the corner while the real men finish this

>>211551674

It's a little more than teenage angst. . .

this isn't a bill, it's a treaty.

>>211552154

I agree, why don't we just do this?

>>211551947

Nigger, if they can pass a bill that allows them to arrest you without probable cause, what makes you think they wouldn't pass this shit?

Grow a fucking brain. Well done OP

>>211552054

FUCK THE SYSTEM

amidoinitrite
amicool?

fighting the good fight

>>211551674

TEENAGE ANGST HAS PAID OFF WELL

>>211552559
douche...

If despite protests they pass the laws, start boycotting all media that worked toward it. Don't listen to any music or watch any movies that are expressly protected by RIAA and MPAA respectively. Support independent media, even though it may not be as "polished" especially if the creators are against this bill as well.

Don't give them the money they're grubbing for.

I was the one who said I won't go too far until necessary, but I'll make people in my area aware and post the leak wherever I can.

arizonafag reposting vital data

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/Ranger_Handbook_2006.pdf

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/PM_8-94_How_to_Start_&_Train_Militia_Units.pdf


my contact info, PLZ dont be afraid to contact me, we need to set aside our discrepancies to beat this..

ughtmw7@hotmail.com

>>211551947
This shit has already happened in other countires. Dont you dare think it wont happen here.

Gentlemen.

The time is fast approaching for us to don the masks again. To do away with our individual identities, to rise up as one, and once again become... anonymous.

>>211552653
the 'system' is going to be fucking you pretty soon dude

>>211553032
we already are anonymous faggot

>>211551277
Further, it will create a new international government union/organization, like the UN or the ITA that focuses on internet and electronic regulations that will span the same across all the countries involved. It also allows the use of unwarranted searches and searches WITHOUT probable cause in order to find copyrighted materials and take action against their owners. (almost all of us)

/b/rothers! we must not fight amongst ourselves! We must make the OP and do whatever it takes to help fight this fucking shit

>>211553223
there goes that teenage angst again

politics is for douche bags.

less politics, more boobs

I like this map, let's fucking do what we have to to keep it that way it is, if not better.

>>211553647
whatever man, your obviously in the wrong thread

im sure theres some reaction thread you can be posting in

For everyone bitching about Fox News being used to accomplish our goals, all I have to say is: It's called a deus ex machina, limpdicks. Read up on it. The enemy of your enemy can be your friend, if only in that limited scope and context. We really DO need to start shit. I'm not advocating overthrowing anything yet (since I'm on 4chan and in this thread in particular, I'm pretty sure I -- and everyone else here -- is quite fertile ground for NSA monitoring), but something definitely NEEDS to be done. About this, and all other retarded IP "protection" measures. I am an avid pirate, and I'd still pirate if I had enough money to actually buy the stuff. I bought Serenity, and the Firefly box-set. You know why? Because I SUPPORT them. I actually WANTED to give my hard-earned dollars to them, to support what they do, and what they did. I know that 99% goes to the asstards who were responsible for canceling the show in the first place, but there's still that 1%, and I'm happy with that. At the moment, it's a sick "best case scenario", and I'll have to live with it. Everything else out there, for the most part, is worth watching if I'm baked out of my skull, and if I'm just bored and too lazy to read a goddamn book. But still, this is about more than just piracy. This is about the whole goddamn Internet. The DMCA and its ilk have been abused in ways that the original authors couldn't have even CONCEIVED of happening... hopefully.

>>211553882
sorry did I kill your fuck the system boner?

>>211553663
Then go into any fucking other thread on /b/.

I hate politics too but I HATE when a country finds a way to bypass its own protections of civil liberties, effectively passing an illegal law legally.

Since it's an international treaty I doubt even individual states have the right to counteract it like they can with federal law.

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER

>>211554138
no, your de-railing a gathering for some unknown reason, i dont really have time to waste with you

if you don't want to help thats fine, just continue lurking instead of posting

my fuck the system boner is called activism, its the way shit gets done, nobody is going to hand you the solution unless your content with whatever happens, in which case, you should continue lurking

i aim to make changes, now, if you'll excuse me...

If this treaty passes, I say everyone download everything you can. That way they'll have to get us all.

Maybe it would be a good idea to sticky this thread.

>>211535935


And another quick rundown - darker, though.


If this treaty is passed, it will create another multinational organization solely dedicated to tracking POSSIBLE illegal file sharers. Sharing a song with a friend? Grounds for a search. Actually, they don't even need probable cause to search your electronics. On the very real chance you actually have a song downloaded from ????, the government will have grounds for immediate destruction of YOUR property. If not, there's a provision that will let them hold on to it for as long as they'd like.

Your internet service provider will be forced to comply with the government in handing over your personal information, if even suspected of engaging in activity that "infringes" upon their "intellectual properties".


The internet, as you know it, will be gone.

>>211554794
that would be nice...

i wish moot could do that...

has anyone tried emailing him about it?

>>211554138
he's fbi, tryin' to demoralize you!

Anyone who actually thinks the goal of this "treaty" is actually to protect copyright-holders is naive to no end. This isn't about protecting anyone's intellectual property; this is about controlling what they don't have copyrighted. Journalists are now afraid of reporting openly and honestly, because they could be sued for it, by precedent set earlier.

http://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca
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CNET News reporter Declan McCullagh confronted the chilling effect of the DMCA firsthand. While research a story in 2002, he found four documents on the public website of the U.S. Transportation Security Administration (TSA). The website disclosed that the documents contained information about airport security procedures, the relationship between federal and local police, and a "liability information sheet." A note on the site stated that this "information is restricted to airport management and local law enforcement." The documents were distributed in encrypted form and a password was required to open and read them.

McCullagh obtained the passwords from an anonymous source, but did not open the documents, citing concerns that using a password without authorization might violate the DMCA. This is particularly ironic, as any foreign journalist beyond the reach of the DMCA would be free to use the password.

"Journalists traditionally haven't worried about copyright law all that much," said McCullagh, "But nowadays intellectual property rights have gone too far, and arguably interfere with the newsgathering process."

The worst thing about this is that it is a treaty. It can bypass all this other shit without consequence, all you have to do is get the two leaders to sign it and bam. Nobody else has a say in it.

>>211554712
WHAT IF THIS PLOT TO OVERTHROW THIS ANTI ANONYMOUS PLOT IS A PLOT IN ITSELF TO PLOT OUT THE DESTRUCTION OF A PLOT ALREADY BEING PLOTTED BY PLOTS WE CANT EVEN BEGIN TO PLOT?

As much as I hate Faux News, if they can help get the word out about this then I'm for it. Bamp for great Justice

>>211555159
i know, its just hard, theres a lot of them out there

we must not lose faith in ourselves tho, we are strong, we will not break

changes will be made, this time, not by some puppet for a president, but by the actual people

>>211554918
exactly what I just said. this is true. read up.

>>211554724
it's already like 90% of everyone ages 14-24

>>211555355
what if i plot in the plot of a plot?

but basically, i feel ya, too much acid lol

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>>211554794
> Maybe it would be a good idea to sticky this thread.
Well, I can't do that, but still... not a bad idea with all these ACTA threads. Shit's gettin' real. Serious business isn't something I'm used to seeing on my Internets.

http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/main.php?mode=submit, you know the drill.

everyone in here needs to grow up

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/Ranger_Handbook_2006.pdf

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/PM_8-94_How_to_Start_&_Train_Militia_Units.pdf

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

reposting for those just joining us

arizonafag here taking ideas/protesters/plans

ughtmw7@hotmail.com

>>211556693


That doesnt mean letting you have your way you Jackel

>>211556403
only 2 requests so far

cmon guys, thread ID is 211535935

theres no reason you shouldnt

bump for glory

>>211557512


supported

Bumping for Freedom

>>211557512
Just did mine and its up to six, lets get alot so they realize we mean bznz

>>211557512
4 requests when I did it.

>>211557512
wen i did it there were 3

All of you kids who are talking about letting people know, don't for a second think your voice will be heard. When the government is passing a bill that will violate our rights, why the fuck would they give a shit that people don't want it to happen? It was the same thing that happened with health care, peiple bitched and moaned, yet the package shipped. We are in debt as a country, and major lobbyists want this shit passed. Until the higher ups stop caring about money, we are at the mercy of greed.

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>>211558250
5 when I just did.

ok, assuming its at 6, we should have it soon enough at ten, just keep it alive long enough, this needs to get stickied, im suprised/shocked it hasnt yet

so, locations? wheres everyone from... lets get an idea on how spread out we are

>>211558296
Well there was still a huge margin of people who did want the health care. Individual people I imagine don't want this. I didn't care one way or the other on the health care debate because I already had good coverage. With this, we're all boned and there's no plus side.

Please sticky this shit. For the GOOD of the LAND!

>>211558634
Oregonfag here.

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Two more, guys!

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>>4602705

Texasfag here

I'm Mark Lloyd and I'd just like to say: You're all fucked, and there's nothing you can do about it. Obama hired me for the FCC, and the federal government isn't too worried about your rights, if you haven't noticed.

Fags...

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>>211558807
I'll be an Oregonfag soon (< month).

>>211558634
Colorado

Obama won't support it. This is stupid.

>>211558296
complete truth. but it is our responsibility to try our best. we need ideas.

>>211559385


He already does.

>>211558807

Ya tell us where your stationed. Makes it easier to find your copyright infringing ass and put you in jail

Hahaha, you fuckers think 4chan has any effexlct on anything anymore?

We aren't the police of the internet anymore, we are the shithole of the internet. We always have been, but atleast there was some intellect.

Nothing done here will have an effect on the real world. Might aswell sit back and watch the chaos unfold.

freedom. fight for it.

Thread is now archived.

>>211558634
northeast georgiafag here
im going to see if i can summarise it and stick it round skool

>>211559385

Hey, idiot- Obama appointed Mark Lloyd and Cass Sunstein for this very reason.

Fucking dumbass... people like you are a waste of air.

The internet is large and the world is small.
WE CAN make a difference!

>>2921511

>>211559517
lol. GO AHEAD SCOUR THE ENTIRE STATE.

>>211559517
if the fbi wanted you, they'd have you by now,

we have to act fast, that is certain, but we cant distrust everyone or nothing will get done
>>211559533
we've sat by long enough, when we stop trying, we stop caring, we let a puppet get in as president, we sat by as healthcare became a joke(more of one at least), we've sat by and let atrocity after atrocity be committed

im tired of sitting

if even one persons opinion is changed, that is a goal

it only takes a spark to light a fire

>>211560415
YEAH AND ONE GAS LEAK TO TURN IT INTO AN INFERNO DO IT BITCHES WOOO

>>211559385
Obama is one of the ones who is fighting against transparency. He's let us all down, making promises in the beginning that sounded so amazing and wonderful that they couldn't possibly be true. And, like a battered housewife, we thought to ourselves, "Whoa. He's not Bush, and he's not McCain, etc., so he can't be ALL bad. I'm willing to believe in what he's saying, because I've given up all hope of anything good happening." In that moment of weakness, he exploited the shellshock of the People, and swore oaths he did not, will not, and can not follow through on.

" Reported by Michael Geist, the leak (German, English translation) shows that the United States, no big surprise, have been one of the players in blocking transparency, but there were other countries as well" [
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/88219/new-acta-leak-outs-who-have-been-blocking-transparency/

"The White House this week declared (.pdf) the text of the proposed treaty a "properly classified" national security secret, in rejecting a Freedom of Information Act request by Knowledge Ecology International." [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/obama-declares/]

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>>211559752
very cool, regardless of your ages, education etc etc

if you spread only facts, we can do no wrong, we are the catalyst for something greater,

do whatever you can, print pages of the acta agreement

print stencils in the thread

join the fucking nutjob protesters at cityhall and actually spread a message worth hearing

everything adds up

there can only be so much ignorance before somone somewhere decides enough is enough

arizonafag here, emails in the thread, lets get ideas

It's been said before - but spread this shit out everywhere you can.

Local representitives, schools, the news - as OP did. Write anyone who has any significant reach warning them about this shit. News organizations LIVE off of fair use. If this goes into effect? Goodbye news - even if it's the likes of shitty Faux News. Goodbye democracy.

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>>211559946
And those appointments make not one, not two, not three, not even four, but FIVE! Yes, you heard me right, FIVE RIAA/MPAA lawyers now appointed by Obama's administration. Still wondering where his loyalties lie?

>>211560912
exactly! we may start small, we will be criticized, we will be put down, we may be suppressed, but if we prevail, we will be that much stronger

someone somewhere agrees with us, and we need to find them... theres only one way to do that brothers

>>2148569

Wow. So American could conceivably be the next Australia or China? This sucks.

Bumpin For freedom again

dont forget to keep requesting an archive, the more the merrier

>>211561192
I'd suggest not doing the anti-police ones just yet. Since they aren't at fault (yet) we'd come across as some anarchical nutjobs which would definitely not get the majority on our side.

>>8323292

lol @ obama fanboys who thinks he loves personal rights and wouldnt support this shit
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20000347-261.html

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

MAKE IT YOUR SCRIPTURE

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/PM_8-94_How_to_Start_&_Train_Militia_Units.pdf

guidebook to starting something greater

http://arizonamilitia.com/manuals/Ranger_Handbook_2006.pdf

the more you know, the stronger you become

arizonafag here, email is ughtmw7@hotmail.com

looking for someone with knowledge on website design

will pay for hosting fees etc etc

message away

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Yeah, Obama loves personal freedom like Ricky Martin loves vag.

>>211562432
thats Dependant on the state, i know here in arizona the police work for themselves and the elite who pay them

they are as crooked as you can imagine, but i know there are good ones out there...just not in tucson :P

use common sense i suppose is good advice lol

bamp

>>211563224
Fight the tyranny. Fight it with your last breath, and with every drop of your blood. But make sure you're wearing a mask while you do it.

This applies even if only in a metaphorical way. The same end-goals could easily be achieved (or at least advanced) by way of seemingly unrelated acts of mischief. Take out the tertiary targets. NEVER go after the big game, because that could end it all before it begins. Make sure you leave a way in, make a small destabilization that could help you wedge your way in. Then, once it comes to the right time, advance and succeed.

Of course, we would have to be the only ones who knew about that, and that is entirely opposite to the methods we're using. Even talking about it in this thread like this is possibly undermining the thought. But still... food for thought.

STICKY THIS THREAD YA FUCKIN MOOT!

>>371985

how the fuck are we going to stop this. we need order. we need a leader...
a king

>>211564559

I vote Jack Black

>>211564559
We need...bawksie.

THE FUCKING CURE FOR CANCER HAS FINALLY COME

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>>211564559


We ARE the king.

That, or OP for mailing the GOP partyvan.

>>211564559
> we need a leader... a king
So... basically... you're saying that in this, the issue that all started because of piracy and pirates (at least, that's the "official" reason), we need a king? I like where this is going... pic related.

>>211564329
im trying, its hard in a city where everyones become so used to it tho...

tucson deserves to burn, but not by brothers hands....

>>211561980
This is a perfect point.
Obama went to China campaigning for internet freedom and then pulls this shit on his own people? Fuck that.

>>211564559
Fuck you, get this shit done. Don't be all hurr durr our king can be lukeywes lulz so funny random meme whatever, we need to focus on actual action. Getting moot to have a board for this would be a great idea.

>>211565141
money is involved so its not that unheard of

Can somebody summarize this, this seems more anti piracy than anti anonymity

>>211564559
>>211565089
we dont need a king, we need men, leaders, we need to look to our ancestors for strength, we are all leaders, we all have the power to create great things

arizonafag will hold the southwest until further notice tho..

ughtmw7@hotmail.com

i declare regency over this wasteland, by my last breath i will purge it of big brothers prying eyes....

if i am branded an example, please brothers, learn from me, fear not the ends, for we are the means of getting there

>>211563157
your fucking right kill obama

This affects all of us man

>>211543255
that's the point, retard. ron paul is trying to break the hero worship mentality that got obama elected. it is up to us to save that which we value, not expect someone to do it for us like the spoiled shitbag hipster liberals.

>>211565116
> tucson deserves to burn, but not by brothers hands....
Proxies aren't just limited to the interbutts. Take lessons from your enemies, and learn to fight them with the same guerrilla tactics that they've been ambushing you with all these years. We only need to show that our will to fight is stronger than theirs. After that, there's at least a little bit of doubt installed, Keyzer Soze style. More people keep doing it, the more they run around trying to ease the tides, which means their vision is no longer as straight-ahead as it was. Just sayin'...

You are retarded if you think Fox News gives a rat's ass about freedom. They're a propaganda network -- that's what THEY do.
Right-wingers aren't about |freedom| either. They'll gladly kill a woman thinking about having an abortion or throw you in jail for wearing a pot leaf symbol.

Honestly, your problem here is that Obama isn't left-wing enough. He's making concessions to corporations in the name of capitalist economics instead of going social democrat and letting the workers determine how they want to distribute the wealth.

>>211565678
on the surface yes, but its the "intentions" of allowing police to assume the role of copyright police in our lives that is the underlying problem, the same thing with cameras on every corner, they claim its only taking pictures of criminals, but in all honesty, people have become accustomed to having a policeman in their life at all times

its invasion of privacy at its finest, and its catering to corporations

its not the action but the ideals that we are fighting

>>211565678
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>>211551277
suspected means you dont have to do shit and they can pull information on you

>>211566218
by 'brothers hands' i meant big brothers hands

but i see your point, we will not win in open warfare, it needs to be smart, guerrilla tactics

brother, why havent you emailed me? you seem like you know what your talking about..

bumped for ACTA bullshit.

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