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I came!

I am so happy I could shit golden nuggets! Finally a middle class man can have insurance with a pre-existing condition.

Feels good, it's one of the reasons I voted for Obama.

wrong forum

As a britfag I'm glad you amerifags have seen the light

How's it feel, knowing a nigger past in 1 year one hundreds of white men couldn't in one hundred?

It's America, who gives a fuck?

i skateboard and i need some free ass health care, but wat do?

when will health care show up on my doorstep?

>>208986733

how's it feel not knowing how to spell or form a proper sentence?

like this

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>>2359405

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i love the delicious republican butthurt

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Feels good, man.

Getting insurance was impossible beforehand.

you amerians just got health care, what the fuck took yas so long, and why are you idiots complaining about it, tisk tisk

*lights cigar*

idiots

finally America is growing up!

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>>208987269

those are danish u fucktard

>>208987269
*laughs at all the Muslims coming your way

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>>7314141

bad, never knew there were so many obama loving nigger fuckers on /b/

>>3912638

It was about fucking time! Also i laughed a few weeks ago when i heard America doesn't have a birth register! You fucking backward dogs :p! You guys still think you rule the world !
Wake the fuck up!

my tits are fucking pissed
fucking socialists

>>208987638

and now thy're bottling it.

>>208988632
>>America doesn't have a birth register

wat

dont care.

I have social healthcare since 1887

i welcome our new socialist overlords

Washington and Jefferson would be shitting bricks

>>208989135

we've never claimed to not care about you, you annoy the shit out of us.

just got done polishing my guns.

i was told to follow the sounds of the fire going off.

where are you guys!??!?!?

woo hoo! I won't die of a colon polyp now.. the doc might actually remove it before it becomes cancer even though I make over $25k a year and have high cholesterol.

I hope the rich get the shit taxed out of them

woot woot

ITT: republicunts acting all big and tough

Nothing wrong with putting a leash on the insurance companies. It's a sleazy industry, they're in the business of not giving people what they've paid for. They shouldnt be allowed to fuck with someone's health. Healthcare is still being provided by the market. This is no where close to socialism.

Kiwifag here.

One in seven dollars spent on health care in the US goes to insurance compnay profit. How the fuck does this constitute an efficient system?

sure is a lot of samefag in here

Hey guys god reporting in ! I'm still the best at all risk!

i'm fine with this.

Republicans cant even oppose this with logic, so they're just stirring up paranoia about socialism and big government. Basically saying that this a potential step towards socialism, but none of them can credibly argue that this IS socialism.

lol
I'm European and laughed my ass off with you guys. Healthcare that is some thing that should be basic

In a word? Awesome, because I no longer have to worry about developing a pre-existing condition and never being accepted onto a health insurance plan.

What exactly does this Health Care bill entail? How is it going to help me?

The core of the bill is consumer protections such as no discrimination for pre-existing conditions, no exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses, deductibles or co-pays, no cost sharing for preventative care, no dropping of coverage for the seriously ill, no gender discrimination, no annual or lifetime caps on coverage, extended coverage for young adults on their parents plans and guaranteed insurance renewal.

What sort of person would be against that stuff?

Five types of folks:
1. Greedy assholes who are making a dime off a broken system.
2. People who hate Obama and don't a damn about who they'll hurt to "beat" him.
3. People who don't comprehend or care that a good idea can be independent from a good or bad person, or a good or bad philosophy.
4. People who just don't understand it, have believed the incredible influx of lies, etc. and are just for lack of a better term, stupid.
5. A troll on 4chan's /b/.

As for OP, please tell me you're not one of the tea partier fucktards?

If you really believe this is going to be the downfall of the United States or that a single doctor is going to change his or her profession, or move, you need to stop drinking the fucking right-wing nutjob flavored Kool Aid. I mean, shit. You ought to consider suicide. This is heaven's gate type shit.

>>208992285
this!

>>208992285
So it's a good thing, right?

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>>208992285
You, sir, are amazing. Have a cookie.

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>>3042118

Kiwifag here again

The Bill means compulsory purchase of insurance for everyone (enslaving the market for insurance) and makes a half assed attempt at stopping the companies from buttfucking their clients (consumer rights are un American if the car industry is to be believed)

Why not nationalize healthcare like civilized countries do? Its cheaper and works.

>>2542214

>>208992285
I'm sorry that my dad spent most of his life in debt due to medical school, and is now just earning a positive profit yet it's being fucked to hell and he's going to get shit. What kind of sane person would spend so much time and money on school to get paid shit. America is going to be full of worthless doctors and you're going to die of a staph infection from your next surgery.

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>>208991550
There's no denying it's socialism.
What the republicans have done, though, is convince the dumb section of the population that socialism is somehow evil.

>>208992285
This man has been paying attention. Congrats, you are not a retard.

Republicans are divided into three groups right now; You've got the scumbags who are owned by the insurance companies and are conjuring up stories about a socialist takeover (hurrr durrr next obama will be coming for yer guns!), the Tea Baggers, who are just batshit crazy, and the sensible Republicans, like Mitt Romney, who will likely be president himself one day and who brought in similar legislation when he was governor, who are in hiding right now and letting the Tea Baggers and corrupt scum bags do the heavy lifting on this one, because they know that this is now here to stay and that it's the right thing to do.

>>208992285
>>208992285

Look genius you forgot the mandatory insurance you now have to buy or be fined.

Thats right.. you must buy the very insurance that caused health care to be so expensive in the first place.

Let me run it down for you since you dont seem to have a grasp on it:
A) sell insurance..... WTF some people arent buying our shitty shit???
B) let hospitals in on the deal...they overcharge for shit... soon a 4 hour operation costs a quarter of a million fucking dollars..WHEE!!!
C) suddenly health care is really expensive...insurance comps drop people that cost too much, HAHA losers!
D) the people piss themselves and cry out to Capt Obama "SUPER NIGGER! Please save our dumb asses"
E) Mandatory Insurance... everyone has to buy the shit AND they have to suck the president's cock

Yeah sounds like a sweet deal. We played right into the corporate pigs hands and youre saying the only people against it are idiots? Really?

>>208993371

Heartily agreed

>>2467770

wait i fireup my posum

>>5518649

>>208993230
Maybe if your fucking father got a decent residency and didn't have a little shit like you to support, he wouldn't be in debt.

Fucker. Your dad needs to budget.

>>2698653

>>5404815

>>208993230

yeah, you're dumb. your dad will probably will get more patients and even more money because more people will go to the doctor because they have insurance. universal healthcare that we put is not like what europe has, which is basically subsidized by the state. we are just demanding that everyone has health insurance. so stop listening to fucking listening to those bullshit reasons, and at least cite some of the smarter points that foxnews rarely has.

>>676540

Happy and faintly horny.

god i hope these are trolls

how the fuck are we gonna pay for this shit? taxes

whats gonna happen when the government starts deciding who gets treated and who doesnt? you might be able to get a life saving operation, but its too expensive for the government to pay for, so you die

and we already have government health insurance, medicare and medicaid, and how is that working? OH theyre going bankrupt. shows how good the government is with that

>>208993371
>>208993371

Well lets see if someone can convince you.

Lets say you have a job... its pretty shitty but not too bad. You can deal with it.

Now lets say the govt is going to take half of whatever you make (like in Europe where the income tax is approaching and even passing the 50% mark). Are you going to work MORE overtime to make up for the less of income or are you going to say "fuck it" and go home? Well what if taxes are 75%? 90%? The point is, social services COST MONEY and the only people that can pay for them are those that are working. Eventually you will raise taxes so high to pay for all your "social nets" that only a moron would hold a job.

If more people do the former instead of the latter, then theres no problem. If more people say fuck it (again like in Europe where unemployment amongst our age group is %50 on average) then your economy is going to tank (like Europe and california).

you americans are lucky your congressmen are not all retards. enjoy first world standards in health care!

fuck republicunts

feels good man.

haha. fuck you republicans.

>>208994817
Um, no, you do NOT tax the working poor, or even the middle class. You tax the top 1% of Americans that control 90% of the nations wealth. And that's how you pay for social programs. Now fuck off.

To celebrate, I listened to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI&feature=related

>>208994179

Exactly. The government isnt taking over healthcare. The healthcare system remains private. This is just going to increase demand for healthcare, and, from a free market perspective, thats a good thing! Do you really think the insurance companies want to be handing money over to healthcare providers? Well now they have to, they dont get to keep so much of it for themselves. And they'll still be making healthy profits. Win, win, win.

>>208994179
that is until the government starts running out of money and telling the doctors how much they can charge
and thats already happening with medicare/medicaid

>>208995919

god, i love that song...

>>208994817

>again like in Europe where unemployment amongst our age group is %50 on average

lol wtf is your age group, 14 year olds or something? has your country really not banned child labour yet?

>>208995698
except that your definition of working class is obamas definition of upper class

Subsidizing rape abortions will only lead to more rape abortions.

its horrible I haven't had anything really bad happen to me in years...which means im due. So in other words im fucked

>>208994817

none of your figures are even remotely correct.

>>208995972
That's already happening with every insurance a carrier in the country. They set a fee, doc gets that fee, no fuss, no muss. See what I did there?

>>208996548
every whore should have at least 1 raep abortion
if you accept the raep you can fap to it later

>>208994817
you forgot about how the government already takes 50% of anything you win on a gameshow

>>208988632
Troll harder

>>208996738

you'll be covered by national healthcare! how great is that?
taste it, my friend, it's the taste of freedom!

>>208997362

no he won't, there is no public option.

>>208997040
except medicare and medicaid and offering $20 for a surgery/checkup, which means the doctors cant make a profit

>>208995919

Hey Irishfag who hasn't read the news in a few months here. What's all this healthcare stuff about, can someone explain?

>>208997641

but this wont increase numbers in Medicare/Medicais, it will increase numbers of people with insurance.

>>208997641

yeah, starving doctors, right...

>>208990625

they make fucking .5% of their gross in profit. They're not exactly raking in the big bucks, dipshit.

>>208997884

America is taking a faltering step into the 1950s. We're so proud of you! Only 60 more years of progress and you'll be with us! :)

>>208994817

You are handling those % averages very generously my young ladd.

they dropped the useful shit out of it, so i feel meh

>>208998284

So US healthcare isn't incredibly expensive because of insurance profits?! Wow, business is even less efficient than I thought...

Fuck that. I'm a rich man. Fuck that nigger. Wheres my .357?

Sad day.

How about this, every year a person now starts in debt. That person must come up with money to pay the fine for not having health insurance or must pay several thousand dollars to get health insurance. A person will now start the year in debt to the government and will be forced to make money to pay for it.

That makes this bill unconstitutional and it will be struck down in court. You can't be required to pay money to the government if you earned nothing to begin with. They tried it with Social Security and it was struck down, now this bill will be struck down too.

>>208986365
It's really none of my business - BUT
1) I am happy for those who now can get health care
2) I'm worried about those who're gonna pay for it all.
So, you think it's the rich guys who're gonna pay? Well, think again. The really rich guys don't pay anything. It's is the middle class / lower middle class who is gonna havee to pay. Why? Because the goverment will have to increase taxes that hit a WIDE cross section of the population to raise the neccesary funds for this reform.

>>208998969

people below a certain income are exempt from the fines.

>>208994817
A fair point.
However, you have to keep in mind that 50%+ income taxes only exist in majority socialist society (Finland, Denmark, etc.), socialized medicine(which is what I assume we're discussing, as the current bill costs the government next to nothing, it's only a set of laws to regulate insurance companies), however, is not a complete "socialist takeover" (though many would try to convince you otherwise). This bill is merely a government subsidy of 1 industry (albeit, a big one), the healthcare industry, and while this industry does comprise of a large chunk of our economy, it's not nearly enough to bring the income taxes of middle class citizens, let alone every citizen to 50% or more, that would only be needed to pay for a near totally socialist society, which no one is suggesting.

Victory Comrades! But at what cost...