Personally I think you're a pathetic lonely faggot who has nothing better to do with his time.

so we dont get tempted to shoot dumbass faggots who try to troll /b/

if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns

>>202592889
>>202592816

typical liberal faggots that dont actually have an argument...

conservfags are a bunch of mouth breathing morons. Look at history! If you fucking give people guns, others die. its just this simple. At first, yeah, theres going to be only outlaws that have it. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of all guns.

the real question is how having MORE guns could equal LESS gun related death

>>202595232
"Anyone who is willing to sacrifice freedom for safety deserves neither"

I'm fucking tired of fuckers telling me some old guys 200 years ago knew what was what, and that we should be following what they say simply because they made the country.

>>202595232
statistics prove it.

case in point: England has a higher rate of violent crime per capita than the USA despite guns being outlawed in the UK

>>202596741
proof? or are you just spouting conservative bullshit?

>>202594433
but anyone with the right tools can build a gun. then what? they rule the world because we destroyed all our fucking guns and we're left defenseless..

Definiton of Tyranny; Something legal for the government whereas is forbidden by the citizenry.

Perfect word for what the government is doing to firearms

Criminals don't heed guns laws, only law abiding citizens do. More laws do nothing

>>202594433

By having a extortion racket with a lot of guns? Do you know how retarded that is?

>>202593408
i like this guy

>>202596916

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita

i agree so im just gonna gtfo right now

if the U.S. Constitution gave Americans the right to poop in the street because, say, there weren't toilets back when it was written...

Americans would pull there pants down and poop on the street, today and every day, while the whole world laughs, wondering why they can't just evolve and use a toilet.

The American response?

"Making Freedom Poops is our right! We're not unhygenic; we're exercising our duties as citizens!"

>>202597675
this /thread

Your freedom can be taken away without military police etc marching downbyour door , insted it has Ben taken away through congress, personal rights etc , the days of civil war are over , you really think it's gonna come down to citizens rising up with guns to protect your freedom , look around you ... And if it really came down to the goverment using force they would just drop a bomb on your group anyway

>>202596741
Funny fact: Your fact is not a fact

>>202598329

yeah, cause i didn't just post proof right?

>>202597049

Bingo. I consider myself, for the most part pretty liberal. However, I understand all too well that our government does not fear it's citizens anymore.

The actual point, if you look at the writings of our founding fathers, of the right to bear arms was more about the ability of the citizens to take back the government that was rightfully theirs to begin with. Americans had just fought the british, who did everything to control the citizenry: registered printing presses, controlled weaponry, etc. Amazing how we have come full circle: faggot conservatives who think anonymous speech should be regulated, and liberal faggots who don't understand that if you remove all the guns, we have no viable way of taking back our own freedom which is already on the road of diminishing returns.

So, OP: fuck off troll. Liberal faggots: learn history, understand why something is there before you spout off, and conservatives: take your eyes off palin's tits long enough to realize your a fucking laughingstock.

>>202597649
You said england, that says UK. That includes Ireland, which is in a state of civil war, and so offsets the numbers. correct facts please.

>>202597649
Total crimes (per capita) (most recent) by country
It doesn't say anything about them being violent crimes...

>>202597675
>>202598010
obvious samefag is obvious

Guns are good, the best thing about them is that those damn retarded Americans kill each other with them all the time.

It's kinda simple, look at the all the countries that doesn't allow guns all over the place, lower crime rates, lower death count. the numbers speaks for them selfs.

>>202597675

That is such a retarded argument.

We were given the right o bear arms because of the possibility that a foreign nation would attack us, and by every citizen having a weapon locked away in his home, that would NEVER happen. If our guns are taken away we'll be fucked if anyone decided that want to invade.

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
-Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

>>202597649
>>202598538
That's crime per capita, not violent crime per capita (as you say in your post) or even gun related crime per capita (which is the actual statistic we're after here)

>>202598805

oh yeah, Ireland is part of the UK. I forgot that it suddenly unbecame an independent country

>>202599279
Actually, noone would be stupid enough to do a full-frontal invasion on the US. Since the whole atombomb thing. Also seriously, you expect every US-citizen to just risk his live? Most ill cooperate peacefully.

>>202597675
The United States has done away with "rights" before

according to your logic we should still have slaves

>>202595232
fear

Look at Switzerland, every house has at least one fully automatic rifle in their home due to their tradition, and their crime rate is one of the lowest. So people who say banning guns will lower the crime gtfo

>>202597675
Because you totally know that the constitution cannot be amended.. Oh what's that? Fuck you're right it can. God damn it wrong again faggot but surely someone already told you.

ok guys.. lets stop fucking around here we all know what the problem is.... NIGGERS

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_ove_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop
How strange, the UK isn't in any of the gun violence categories...
maybe that's because there are strict gun laws...

The 2nd amendment provides the people a way to secure their rights given to them in the other amendments.

Doesn't get any more complex than that.

Liberals want to control everything, so they try to ban the people's power over them.
Conservatives want to follow a book that they believe is true, and force it on everyone.

As you can tell I'm neither of these.

>>202596741
that statistic is pulled right from your ass isn't it?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

The only time we need sticker gun control is if population started to decline. As long as more people are being added to an already overpopulated planet there is no problem with letting people kill each other. Only mankind is so selfish to place it's own greedy need to keep love ones around above the welfare of all of Earths life forms.

Anyone that has the problem with that needs to reevaluate their priorities in life.

It won't be long until we've gained such a high number that masses of people begin starving to death. Wars will start over resources and billions will die.

>>202600009

I expect enough patriots to defend their country if it's being invaded, of course.

Old data (2001-2003), yet still valid. I have seen the stats recently, and the UK is worse overall.

http://www.tinyvital.com/blog/2003/7/26/american-vs-european-crime-rates/

Remember, an armed society is a polite society. After Florida passed a concealed carry law, their crime rate dropped by 38%. Same here in south Texas. CHL classes are booked about 6 months in advance since last year. Recent stats came out the crime is on a downward turn. Of course aside from criminals killing criminals, but who gives a shit about that..

>>202600009
Bullshit. Anyone comes over here, they will be going up against the most gun-happy, well equipped country in the world. And thats just our citizens.

>>202597675
you said duties

hehehe :)

>>202601126

tru dat homie

This thread reminds how happy I am not to be an american

>>202600009

I just have a combat knife, but I'd rather die then let my house be taken by any foreign invaders. And my neighbor is a gun nut so I'd borrow some of his.

>>202602160

jealous much? get over it eurofag

The problem is not the guns, the problem is that americans are idiots who can't handle guns because they are war-mongering idiots that fear eachother and shoot eachother because of it. Look at Switzerland, there are lots of guns but you don't hear of shootouts in schools or idiots going on a rampage in a mall.

tl;dr Americans can't handle guns so that's why guns should be banned.

>>202602160

I wish the entire world was segregated by personality type. They would only place each other with people they get along with and everyone else couldn't talk to each other.

>>202599279
it's not an argument.

you don't even slightly understand the satire, or what it was pointing toward, or what it says about the common american reasoning as to why they still need the right to bear arms.

but it's okay ... no one expected anything more.

op's a faggot troll

>>202602963

When do you ever hear about Americans killing Americans? Besides for gang related deaths... Of course there are shootings and whatnot but those are exceptions made by just a few people.

>>202600117
Yes, but they're SWISS.
Fuck, I trust the Swiss with guns, they're too boring to do anything stupid.
You guys, on the other hand, have niggers.

>>202603218

There will always be a need for weapons so long as there are conflicting nations and gangs running wild.

The second amendment isn't just an amendment. It's the second amendment in something we like to call the bill of RIGHTS. A right, not a privileged. That's why America is America. You can do shit with your life and you're still entitled to these right guaranteed to you by the Bill of Rights. There's nothing about that amendment that can be interpreted as anything other than every person in the US being able to own a gun. That's how America works and we're doing fine. Sure the US is going to hell, but so is the rest of the fucking world.

>>202604070
tl;dr: HURR DURR

Who the fuck wants stricter gun control?!? More guns in circulation means more lulz... School shootings, militia standoffs, fast food massacres, disgruntled employees, shopping mall shooting sprees... Think of what you're missing

>>202600373

Win. There you go amerifags, how about some gun restrictions?

>>202604285
Hang on, this Anon is right.
All this shit happens in Dumbfuckistan.
GO SECOND AMENDMENT!

>>202603958
I agree, and I'm the guy who posted the right to poop satire.

again, I really truly agree we should have some form of home and personal defence.

i just think it should evolve and be based on rationality, not the idea that because it's in the constitution, everyone should always get to bear any arms anywhere.

>>202603564

If we exclude the gangs and the montly and sometimes even weekly shootout then the violence that makes it to the international news isn't much. But according to the statistics there is alot of gun violence in the US anyway. I presume not everyone survives it.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_ove_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop

>>202603218
How is that satire you idiot?

"People trying to strip freedom away from honest citizens to try impose arbitrary safety upon them are the cancer that is killing /b/"
- George Washington

wait wait wait... canadas a country??

>>202604280
tl;dr I live in Canada/UK DERP

>>202604967
QED

Btw, no one is going to invade the USA, so just drop your gun and stop waiting for the terrorists or russians. You can't stop a plane from hitting a building with a pistol anyway. You might stop a nigger or an idiot but if they are with 2 you're fucked anyway.

>>202605215
Yeah... I think they won something the other day. What was it again??

>>202605672
Y'know, I love not having armed niggers around me.

>>202605201

I'm considering getting a gun.
I already have a Walther pistol, what should I move onto?

>>202604967
christ you must all be in high school

it's a satirical take on how America rationalizes choices about the present by saying, and I quote that old Moses guy, "I carry guns because the constitution says it's my duty."

but you probably think irony is when things turn out opposite to what was expected.

Is nobody taking into consideration the amount of crimes that were not commited because the victim had a gun and scares away the perpetrators? nobody reports a crime that didn't happen, but its still an important thing to take into account

>>202592597
anyone should be able to get a gun as long as they can prove their not some pycho whos just gunna go on a killing spree. aka the average american

If the government is out to get you, your guns won't save you.

/thread

nuff said

>>202605678
Wtf? That's not even a definition you fucking tard

>>202606410
You mean... like in the UK?

It's such a retarded argument that gangs will still have weapons even if they are illegal. Guess what, if guns were illegal, the police could actually make a move before the niggers start shooting things up!

CITIZEN=ARMED

subject=unarmed

>>202606384
zomg english is hard
irony: an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

>>202605921
GAU-8 Avenger. It's your constitutional right... No, strike that. It's your constitutional DUTY to get one

i live in belgium and i can honestly say that i haven't seen a gun irl ... ever, except of a cop offcourse

you amerifags should stop that gun loving culture, it creates more problems than it solves

>>202606384
See: Situational Irony, fucknut

ALL LAW is enforced through the barrel of a gun.

STOP BREAKING THE LAW or I will yell at you.

>>202597675
Made me lol hard, but seriously gun control is bad shit. If we need to start a revolution (because all governments go to shit eventually) we're going to need to be armed to do it. Hence, the 2nd Amendment was made.

In Ireland we need a license to own a gun, so we don't technically have a right to own one. But then again, neither do the police. they're unarmed, and we've got a relativly low crime rate, because the police and citizens are on the same level. If you took away the guns from the citizens in america, but not the police, you would open up a whole new type of fuck

OP is right. We need to arm all illegal immagints.

IMMAGINTS!

>>202607396

I live in Belgium too, never saw a gun either.
Since a shooting in Antwerp a few years ago the gun law became stricker and no one complained, since then no more shootings...just stabbings but then you have a higher rate of survival, also a person would sooner shoot someone than stab someone.

>>202607530
Law is not enforced by citizens.
Democracy =/= mob rule.
Or it shouldn't, at least.

>>202607315
>>202607315
That's a bit excessive.

never seen a gun in the uk. its bliss you americans suck so hard the only thing im worried about is zombie invasion. Then fair enough keep your weapons of death

guns dont kill people, i dont kill people, NIGGERS kill people (usually other niggers and cops). give niggers guns and people will die.

>>202597649
Hey moron this is crimes NOT violent crimes. Plus no dates on the data. Plus a real source not another blog site for fuck sakes. Thats like sighting another thread from 4chan as your source.

How about you go to a shooting range and empty a few clips and see how you feel about gun laws afterward?

HURR CONSERVATIVS ARE STUPID BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING LOL. JUST LOOK AT HISTORY; IM RIGHT AND UR FACTS R MADE UP ANYWAY

"Good thing we have enough money to hire armed guards to protect us while the rest of our English Countrymen get stabbed to death by Sharia law Musfags! LOLOL"

Well there Mr. Belgium... Maybe you should shut the fuck up as it was our gun loving culture that kicked the friggin Nazi's out of Belgium in 1945.. Otherwize you'd be serving your manditory time in the Army for your Fueror..

Most people don't realize that it takes a whole lot more psycho to stab somebody in the chest with a knife than it takes to pull a trigger. The amount of jealousy and family murders is rising, and gun control would be especially effective in this area.

>>202607282
I'm sure you could find a definition of mathematics that suits 10 year olds, but it won't make you smart. your definition is simplistic and not correct in any real sense.

irony is not irony unless the outcome is opposite to that intended BY WAY of the means undertaken to achieve the originally intended outcome.

but your junior definition will work for you most of the time, I'm sure...

sup fags, this is my gun. slide locked back to show that it’s not loaded.

enjoy your fascist governments that are afraid of armed civilians.

Because you shouldn't need a Glock in New York.

Honestly, the people that will die that wouldn't have if they had a gun would be low.

Hunters should be allowed to use hunting rifles.

Illegal guns would still exist but you would get arrested with a gun in any case, leaving niggers almost non-existant.

Guns aren't the problem, idiots with guns are the problem. Unfortuantely 90% of the human race are idiots so it's more efficient to have a strickt gun control. Because you can't control idiots when they have a gun

>>202606384
They're saying that they agree with the constitution and it's reasons, rather than supporting it word for word.

>>202609282

TL;DR:
No more niggers with guns.

>>202592597

OP presumes, without justification, that putting more regulation on guns de facto means that all guns will be outright outlawed and only the government will have guns.

>>202609677
cool story bro

>>202609310
You can't control idiots in general, idiot.

>>202608946

Well mr.Gunloving redneck. It weren't civilians with guns that liberated us from the nazis, it was the army that helped us...and they were late ontop of that too.

GUYS LOOK HOW WELL GUN CONTROLL WORKS.

LIBERAL VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>202608946
you're taking things way out of perspective there
let's be honest, you joined the war to save your own american asses, you let us down for 2 years by that time, so don't go history on me, i'll go history on your ass, mr. amerifag

>>202606432

Wait a minute, THATS A NIGGER! Who the fuck gave him a gun??

>>202608946
Actually no it was the Soviet Army that drove the Nazi's out. . pretty much everywhere. Americans did jack shit in WW2 tbh. . . But enjoy your guns!! I'm sure they'll be great help when another country invades and you can use them to club someone to death, while a REAL army drives them out.

>>202610015
it's a solely european statistic you ignorant cunt

>>202609188
Rural Britfag here. If I wanted a gun, it's really quite easy to get a rifle or shotgun legally, if you have anything like a legit reason for having one (pretty much 'I want to shoot stuff and I'm not a total fucktard'). Automatics in a city are just fucking stupid, though.
Enjoy your tooled-up niggers.

why would you want an illegal immigrant disgusting Cuban to have a gun OP? Does Op want illegal immigrants to have guns,

the Police in that picture were performing a lawful duty to a family that repeatedly ignored Federal Law, should he have been shot for enforcing the Law?

>>202608694
Fuck this up in /k/, and they'll eat you alive

>>202609185
There's 3 types of irony.
Situational, which is basically what you said it wasn't
>>202606384
right there.
Dramatic, which is when the observer has information that would be great for the protagonist to know.
Verbal, which is mainly what people use the word sarcasm for in this day and age.
But don't get me started.

>>202610544
and it costs a shitton of money. other than that…

>>202609810
It's called the slippery slope.

>>202610015

>Source, EU

your a fucking idiot

>>202611096
I'm not poor :)

>>202610383


WOW!!! Learn to History !!!!

>>202611133

Its called your a paranoid idiot

Do you want a felon illegal immigrant owning an RPG, that's what you will have without restrictions

>>202610383
Wow, not true. Ive played COD 2, 3, and 4 like 40 times and I know America kicked Nazi ass in WW2 dumbass.

I guess all you Liberalfags will just have to fight with harsh language when the fascists come over the hills into your town

The rest of us though, will not go so easily

>>202611763

>implying COD 4 took place in WWII Europe

>>202611807
You *are* the fascist

>>202610974
wait until you actually have your degree.

just because a term or label contains a word, does not mean it is a 'version' of the word used in its label.

>>202611807

yet another retard who thinks that advocating some reasonable restrictions on guns means that guns should be completely banned

>>202611807

The Irony being that I am more afraid of the fascists having guns than only the government having them.

A burglar breaks into your house, you don't have a gun, how do you shoot him?

>>202612495
why shoot him in the first place you murderous faggot?

>>202610015
Oh lets see the source.
Conservatives EU Commission.

Do any of you fuckers understand what a none bias credible source is. Are you all really that retarded.

PLUS THERES NO USA ON IT ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED.

>>202612495
Beat him to death with your massive cock...
No, wait - you'll probably need the gun, then.

Gun control seems to be getting a bad wrap. I think its wise to make people work to get a fire arm and to have them registered. As a Canadian, I dont have this "need" to own a gun, and if I ever do get one it will be a nice show peice. I guess I'm just thankful I live in a place that has 14 gold medals and beats American's in Hockey. But thats just me.

>>202610974
no, you are completely wrong.

Situational Irony is formed by the link between the actions undertaken and the result DIRECTLY from those actions.

It has nothing to do with that same result coming from something other than the plan put into place by the one experiencing true irony.

now stfu, this is /b/ and i like gun control debates better than pretend grammar nazis like you.

>>202612057
Look it up in the dictionery ASSCLOWN
you dont even have a fucking english degree you silly fuck

The amount of illegal guns in a country is proportional to the amount of legal ones, as most illegal guns were at one point legal ones which got stolen. This makes the whole "if you ban guns only the criminals have them!" kind of moot.

Guns kill cops, duh.

Seattle Liberalfag here sick to fucking death of "my side's" gun control bullshit. You know what's funny? RESEARCH has proven that societies where citizens can bare arms are safer.

tl;dr: this liberal against gun control.

>>202612495

You have a gun, he has a gun: one of you dies

He has a gun, you don't: no one dies because burglars aren't idiots that shoot everyone, if you play your cards right you might be able to call the cops before he finds you. Then suddenly, you have 5 men with guns.

according to the fbi gun violence dropped in despite the surge in gun sales in the last two years http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2425332/posts

>>202613153
moar like formed by the link between your mom's butt and my dick! LOL
or my american bullit and your commie legflesh

>>202613153
>no, you are completely wrong.

Capital N

>>202613786

They probably won't think the FBI is credible enough to be a source though.

>>202613539
>>202613539
what research? there's no source you fucking faggot

>>202613786

>citing free republic as a source

>>202596741
Hmmm, except that guns don't make people violent, they just violent people shoot others. So, while we may have more violent crime, out gun crime is much lower. So much lower that our police force do not carry guns as standard.

Lisa: The second amendment is just a remnant from revolutionary periods, it has no real meaning today

Homer: You couldn't be more wrong Lisa. If I didn't have this gun the King of England could just come in here and start pushing you around. Do you want that, well do ya?

>>202613539
Lets see your research then. Everyone spouts arguments with out showing a single point of proof.

And make sure its proof and not just another blog

Woman weighs 120 pounds is 5' has a testosterone level of zero

Man weighs 250 is 6'2'' has a testosterone level of over nine thousand

GUN IS THE GREAT EQUALIZER

this thread is proof that /b/ is a bunch of fucking moron children

It's to make it harder for niggers to buy guns.

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXzFp1lshBE

ITT: Rednecks get angry about gun control

>>202614983
Our you could try something like oh i dont know pepper spray or maybe a tazer.

>>202614358
>they just violent people shoot others.

>>202610464
protip: uk has more harsh gun control than most of europe

>>202615017
welcome to /b/, you must be new here

>>202598598
They made the right to bear arms because we didn't have state militia's you idiot.

>>202615187
niggerGET

>>202615413
I see no relation between burglary and gun control.
I think americunts define 'violent crime' differently.

Only politicians should have guns, because they are the wisest, smartest, kindest, most generous, gentle and benevolent people in the world. A politician would never, ever get rob and plunder the citizenry, or get them into senseless wars. They are in control because God wants them in control, they can do no wrong.

anyone should be allowed to have a gun.

the dumbshits that try to use them for evil will be shot and killed.

it really is that simple.

and as far as shooting accidents, anyone who shoots themselves on accident deserves to die and anyone that gets shot on accident by some one else deserves to die for hanging around idiots with guns.

>>202597675

and when you set up a straw man arguement and expect me to take you seriously, you look like a faggot.

If you want a fucking gun then get a fucking gun.

>>202615998
pretty much this

>>202616081
Problem is, cracked-out niggers also want guns.

>>202592597
Defence, with a 'c' not and 's'!!!

>>202614570
Yes, everyone tends to overlook that clause about Americans needing to be armed in case the King of England tried to take us over. We have the right to defend ourselves only against King George III, the omnipotent, immortal and devious enemy of freedom.

>>202616387
stricter nigger control then

>>202615998
'Kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out'
I like the way Americans think.
I like that they're on the other side of a lot of water, as well.

>>202616711
If you piss us off, the water won't stop us. It is why we have the world's most powerful navy.

>>202615998
this is what it should be

>>202616990
You asshats are too busy shooting each other.

>>202616668
Why don't we combine gun control and nigger control, by making it legal to own guns only if you use them to kill niggers?

look at the citys in the US where guns are illegal like washington d.c and chicago and see the utopia they are now that all those big bad guns are gone (sarcasm)

>>202616711
if you had guns you and your bobbies wouldn't have to worry about getting stabbed

and yes i assumed youre a britfag

>>202617315

This.

>>202617408
How bad does a US city have to be to start with before someone takes the guns away, though?
Also I doubt they were decomissioned, just sold to - yup, niggers.

>>202599140
nah, just gun deaths are lower, knife and other deaths just go up and equal to a similar amount a little above or below depending on the country.

>>202617716
Coppers have guns. Lots of guns.
They don't break 'em out unless srs bsns, though.

>>202616990
Sandnigger in a rubber dinghy: 1
US$1.1 billion destroyer: 0

Let us take a look at the AUSFAGS shall we?

AUSFAG government decides to censor the Interwebs

everyday citizen ausfag who likes to fap cannot fap

How does he get internets back to fap if he has no guns and the AUSFAG government DOES have guns and says no Internets no fapping?

YES POLITICS IN YOUR FACE BOOM POW LEFT HOOK RIGHT UPPERCUT

>>202618539
Democracy - remember, the other revolutionary thing?

>>202619315

LOLOLOLOL

Stupid Liberal thinks that Politicians are more interested in voters THAN THE CORPORATIONS THAT FUND THEIR CAMPAIGNS! lolololololololololol

>>202595960

its liberties not freedom you faggot get it right

The right to bear arms worked very well back when America was full of white people. Then we started letting people in, they got the guns, and are now responsible for 90% of the gun related crimes. The other 10% are white people trying to keep their families safe. My solution to good gun control: Take the guns away from the spics, niggers, wops and fucking towl heads.

>>202615413

WTF? Are you kidding me? Way harsher gun control in France than in the UK...

Either way criminals WILL get their hands on guns whether or not normal people have guns. Us law abiding citizens need a way to protect ourselves.

Lemme explain this to all the people out there who don't already know.

Liberals do their best to set up nigger breeding grounds.. section 8 housing, hugely overfunded underpreforming schools, welfare, ect.

Why? because 95% of niggers vote democratic.

Liberals want gun control, why?.. because they know niggers are to stupid to handle them.

Now, the other side thinks niggers should all die in a fire, not be supported, ect.

they are against gun control, because their society would be mostly white, and white people are generally smart enough to manage a firearm.

>>202597675
You have great wisdom, to recognize that tyranny is a thing of the distant past, and has been permanently abolished by our wise and benevolent leaders.

i want my mp5
and my sandwitch

>>202619670
OK, amerifag detected. In your case you may be right.
Meanwhile, in the civilised world...

only the man on the left would be defending himself, the man on the right is attacking

Let's "liberate" Australia

>>202617853
the point is that the citys get Worse after the guns are taken away.

The United Nations and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are moving forward with their plan to confiscate your guns.

hurr durr ban all t3h guns then criminals won't have them

uneducated faggots

>>202620026
Yes, look how readily they gave them up when requested by the Germans.

As an arch enemy of gun owners, Clinton has pledged to push the U.S. Senate to ratify the treaty. She will push for passage of this outrageous treaty designed to register, ban and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like YOU.

Does anyone realize how easy it is to get a full-auto AK in the US?

You go down to Vegas, get into a seedy area of town, and ask any drug dealer that you're interested in buying a gun. If he's in organized crime, it'll be less than $350 to get one.

>>202596916

It's a fact, you fucking faggot

"derp conservative bullshit"

Gun control doesn't work. Nearly every city with strict gun control has a high rate of gun crime.

*** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding citizens cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;

*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);

*** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;

*** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.

You see, this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

>>202620717
>The United Nations and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are moving forward with their plan to confiscate your guns.

They better not.

The first thing a communist or dictator does is disarm the people so they can’t fight back. Once disarmed, they’re then distracted. Then the genocide begins. Evil can’t help itself, it always fallows the same pattern, control, enslave, kill, no matter the face it wears.

>>202620943
The AK that blows up in your face, or the real deal?

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I know I don't want the government knowing how many/what kinds of guns I own.

There should be no guns...guns cause war man.
If we all battle royalled with swords and fists, we'd actually be fucking equal. Fuck the NRA and all that bullshit. Go kill someone with your bare hands, pussy shits.

there is NO question that they WANT our firearms but the fact is that not only are they outgunned by ridiculous proportions but there are too many good Americans who will LAY THEIR LIVES DOWN before surrendering the hardware. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. That’s not to say that they won’t try, just that it will be an unthinkable warcry that spill rivers of blood unnecessarily.

The problem is that they don’t fear the people and haven’t for a long time. Let’s all hope that they all get their heads out of their asses before things get any worse and a “reality check” becomes unavoidable. GOOD LUCK disarming the American population morons.

>>202620689
Yes, I did get that - I'm not american.
What I meant was how endemic does gun crime have to be before amerifags will tolerate gun control, and once you're at that point will a voluntary hand-in actually make any difference?
Point being, crims generally won't hand over their guns when asked nicely.

nom nom .. whats goin on here guis ?

>>202621194
that's because in a place without gun control there's usually little legislation or enforcement to prevent them murdering each other as well.
UK vs USA: People are attacked in the UK but at least they aren't likely to be gunned down by some twat.

>>202621420
A disarmed populace is a subservient populace. Every dictator knows that!

>>202611593

Felon Illegal immigrants get that shit regardless of what laws are in place moron.

>>202621420
When the citizens fear the government, you have tyranny. When the government fears the citizens, you have liberty. Look at all of the fucked up stuff our politicians do. Know why they do it? They aren't afraid of being killed. If we made it clear to them tht an unpopular decision could cost him his life, the politicians would act differently. The greater his fear, the more likely he is to carry out the will of the people. The less fear he feels, the more likely he is to abuse his power. True story.

>>202621674
>guns cause war man.

Actually corrupt officials cause war. Find one that isn't corrupt and do everything you can to keep them in a position to represent us.

>>202622684
When citizens fear citizens, you have America.

>>202620026
Yeah, a shotgun license is really easy to get in the uk (the only thing you need is a good enough gun locker/cabinate).

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Isn't that a form of tyranny over the government? 1 group of people could pressure a major politician with death threats. Then again they get pressured now by bribes. Fuck it any government is going to be corrupt I just want my guns!
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>>202623216
Interesting point, but I am an American and I am not afraid of anyone. I'll fight you with my fists, or with baseball bats, or guns, it doesn't make a difference how I kill you.

Newsflash, criminals will always be able to get guns, because they don't give a shit what the law says!

As long as I can keep my AR-15 and carry my Glock 19 whenever I like, I don't give a shit what the government does.

>>202621194
Once again you fail to provide proof. Yet that is clearly what I wanted.

Plus what gun control?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/01/supreme.court.gun.control/index.html?hpt=C1

>>202610383

LOL

christ you're a dumb shit, heard of normandy? battle of the bulge?

Yea, not gonna deny the soviet army did its part, or rather their harsh winters did, but america did jack shit? lol, you're a fucktard.

Wait, I'm being trolled aren't I?.. yes.. yes.. I'm being trolled. Gotta tell myself that, people aren't that stupid..