I realize that this isn't the way to improve myself but I don't know where else to ask.

>>12421377 (OP)
Being virgin at the age of 18 is not the end of the world (however much it may seem to, in fact be).

are you employed?

take valium and go to a bar.

>>12421423

Yes.

Tbh OP people will tell you that it's not a big deal but I felt pretty shitty until I met an amazing girl and lost my V to her. It was a massive load off m y mind , one less thing to worry about you know? But don't see a hooker just wait for your perfect girl to fall into your lap because she'll find you , trust me. If you want to speed it up then just start flirting more and asking girls out. Gl son

If you do it, go expensive, better safe than drowning in STD's

I know that feel OP, 22 here, so afraid I'll never satisfy a woman.

>>12421436
I don't mind paying but my problem is trying to find one because I don't know where to look.

>>12421435
Well it really isn't a big deal. But you realize it only after you lose your virginity.

But anon is right, OP. Don't despair, you will find that special girl one day that will solve your "problem". And it will most likely happen when you least expected. That's what happened to me last year. And I was 18, too.
Sex is overrated, anyways. The one without feelings involved, I mean.

start talking to girls as friends, get to feel comfortable around them.

otherwise you might get stuck with hookers

also, how about selling your virginity on ebay or silk road lol or go on those dating sites and make it clear ur a virgin

a lot of women will find it a turn on, you might find a "teacher"

>>12421377 (OP)
I got an adult massage today, found her on backpage, they have a whole section for escorts as well. Realize that disease is a very real concern, they're not cheap, and it's really not the same as a relationship. But I'm hardly in a position to tell you not to go for what you want. Just think it over.

>>12421455
sex when you're passionately in love is the best thing ever

>>12421460
Exactly. Fucking a whore/one nightstand is like sitting on your arm before masturbating, imho.
It feels better than fucking your hand, but it doesn't have that something that leaves you happy for the rest of the day.

As for cops, just google her phone number. There's review websites for that stuff, if she's got a decent review history it's a safe beget she's no cop. Also, they teens not to care much about the upscale girls, because they don't cause problems and everybody actually wants to be there.

Captcha: whildfic first

Can anyone give me any info on where to look exactly?

OP, if you're on west coast, you could go to a brothel in Nevada. It's expensive but it's legal there and they're screened for diseases so it's actually slightly safer than fucking some club slut.

I'm 23 and a virgin and I haven't resorted to buying a prostitute yet. I'm thinking it's probably not quite the same anyway. Just stay the course, buddy. exercise and eat right, learn a skill.

>>12421456

yes please. this is my fetish. specifically from a woman around 7-10 years older than me.

>>12421518
This is the truth. A sad one, nonetheless.
The more you try to get laid (as an inexperienced dude), the lesser your chances are of succeeding.
The fucking second you stop giving a shit and going on about your life and doing shit to improve yourself, opportunities start coming at you.
Fucking world, man.

>>12421549

well not THE second. I've been focusing on myself for a year and a half, going to the gym every other day, eating better, focusing on work and school and I'm still a virgin.

>>12421549
This. Neediness isn't attractive.

Fucking fake it if you have to, just to spite this fucking world.

>>12421582

>neediness isn't attractive

I feel like this is my problem. I'm doing the right things but I'm not acting the right way. I still give of vibes of "I need your approval" when I talk to people, women especially.

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>>12421559
A bit of exaggeration on my part, for sure.
But that's what happened to me.
>Be 15-17
>Try desperately to get into some girl's panties.
>Fail miserably
>Become more desperate
>Fail even worse
>Be 18
>Start seeing a therapist for mild depression and anxiety
>Start some generic-SSRI medication
>Use it for 3-4 months, stop trying to lose virginity/find a relationship
>Stop medication
>Land a 6-7/10 out of nowhere
>Lose v-card, be with her for 1 month
>Dump her because it was a shitty relationship
>Resume poon-passiveness for half an year
>Find out 8/10 QT has a crush on me just from my Fb profil pic
>Hook up with her eventually
>Mfw when I'm still with her today, 8 months later and it's going great and she's actually thinking about our distant future together.
>Mfw I'm not even that great looking
>Mfw aloofness and waiting for an opportunity while taking care of myself finally paid off.

>>12421618

This inspired me to get a better FB profile picture. I've have the same one for years.

>>12421608
Maybe medication? SSRIs do it for some. Benzos are good for socialising but addictive. Exercise does it for me. Without regular exercise I get stressed and turn beta as fuck, with it I'm pretty fucking alpha.

>>12421647
Idk, man. I don't want to recommend SSRI-s as miracle-cure.
To be honest in the 3 months I took them, I did feel a bit of difference. I mean, idk if the problems just washed away on their own or my perspective on myself and my life changed a little for the better because of them but I decided to go off of medication on my own, when it happened. My mom actually tried to insist in pursuing taking them for at least a little longer, just to be sure.
Withdrawal symptoms are pretty shit, though. Random "brain zaps" for a week, or so.

>>12421669
Now if only I could find a cure for being a lazy-ass that doesn't feel like studying for college.

>>12421647
>>12421669

I'm not taking any medication. I'm not sick. I feel like if I can win just once I'll be on the road to where I want to be socially. It just never happens.

>>12421687

you mean adderall?

>>12421698
Adderall won't make me magically enjoy my degree more. That's what you get when you sign up for lawschool for the $$$ instead of psychology/sociology for the fun.

>>12421691
Why don't you just try to develop your social skills more? Hobbies/hang-outs/musical talents/any other personal skill, really.
You could try reading some PUA shit, I guess. It will give you more social-courage, if nothing else.
I don't think that losing your virginity to a hooker is defined by anyone as a win, socially speaking.

>>12421714

I don't mean to make you feel even worse, but there is currently 1 job created every year in the legal industry for every 2 law school graduates a year. just saying.

>>12421737

I'm not the OP. I advised him not to get a hooker. I've read The Game. It helped me realize that if I want a girl to like me I have to get her accustomed to touching. too often I'd treat girls like space aliens and avoid touching them at all costs for fear of them freaking out. Now I try to incorporate a touch on the shoulder or elbow the second time meeting any girl. But otherwise it didn't really teach me much.

Some things you just have to learn on your own. for example, I used to think of myself as a pretty smart guy, and I was always correcting people. I realized that people hate being corrected and now I never do it. pronounciation, grammar, trivia, anything, I never correct anyone. It's actually pretty hard for me

>>12421740
Nah, it's not that bad.
I'm an eurofag. And in the city where I study I've got 3 relatives that are notary public. So I pretty much have where to work after I graduate.
The problem is that I'm at a crisis right now regarding what I want from life in the form of a career.
I'm just finishing my first year, anyway. So it's not that bad. I still have time to grow to like it, I guess.
I look towards having a job in the legal system and I like what I "see". I just find little to no pleasure from studying it, per se.

Looking forward to mid-life crisis, fml.

>>12421774
My god, YES. That was my problem, too. Idk what the fuck did I expect them girls to do to me when I went out on dates with them.
I was somehow expecting them to just jump on me and suck face after just a few hours of talking to them.
Also, the superiority-complex.
Yo, trip-fag. Are you me? :|

just find a chub and fuck her. literally any chub is extremely desperate and will happily accept the D. they're also freakier in the bed.

but if you absolutely have to get a hooker, a good way to make it legal is to ask her if she wants to film a porno with you for money. if she's down, she's a hooker, if she's not, she's a cop.

you can't get in trouble if you pay someone to film a porno.

>>12421789
Don't you need some legal-paperwork to make porn?

>>12421798
Who cares, you twat?

>>12421786

Yeah, except I can't get girls to go on dates with me. When I say we should do something they always tell me they're busy.

I have to try very hard now not to have that superiority complex especially because I took a break from school and now I'm back in college with 18 and 19 year olds. Some of the shit they say is fucking bananas.

Some of the stuff in that book was pretty skeevy and I'd never try it but the touch escalation makes sense on a purely logical level. It creates expectation which is attractive. It's not a trick or anything. It's just something you would expect to happen when two people are attracted to each other, when you think about it.

And yes, I am you

>>12421789
Not true. Porn requires things like std tests and proof of age to be filled out on official government paperwork. The penalties for not doing so are actually higher than for prostitution in the USA. That said, her getting naked is a good litmus test, cops won't do it and the laws around it are much looser.

>>12421806
The things you have to learn from PUA are pretty obvious to someone who's natural at the game, but seem kind of far-fetched if you lack social experience.
Basically you can learn stuff like: self-confidence, body language, kino, identifying IOIs. Even if you fake it at first, it helps you to start getting where you want to be.

Out of curiosity: Age/Country, son of Arathorn?

>>12421812
yes, but a cop wouldn't agree from the get go. where as a prostitute would be willing.

>>12421905
That's why it's a good test. Get her naked and negotiate from there. If she won't, call it off.

>>12421920
yeah definitely. and cops won't even get naked in the first place.

>>12421608

>I still give of vibes of "I need your approval" when I talk to people, women especially.

It is so painful to watch kids do this with girls, especially in college.