Men:

Maybe it's just me, but I'm noticing a certain trend on OKCupid. All the younger guys, like the teens, early and even mid twenty year olds on that website are either unattractive, really weird, or they're neither of those but have very high standards.

But when I change the settings to later twenties to early thirties, yeah there are still dickheads and weirdos, but I found way more attractive men on there who seem a bit, I don't know, down to Earth?

What is that all about?

bampity bamp

>>12353092

Guy here.

I think is probably because younger guys are more into the bar and club scene and are also frequently college students so they are more around a greater pool of potential females. Only the strange or socially awkward ones rely on dating sites.

The older guys have grown out of the bar/club scene, have full time jobs, and simply are meeting less women. Dating sites allow them access to greater amounts of women and also allow them to filter out crazies more easily.

>>12353092
Maturity?

Women.

How would you react if you found out your SI was doing penis enlargement even if you told him it was big enough/too big already/perfect?

Women

How do you feel about PUA shit? Does it really work? Do you believe in the whole Alpha/Beta dichotomy?

I personally think it's the stupidest shit I've heard.
I literally just read an article that pretty much said you're a beta fuck if you use "lol" or smiley emoticons in your texts

>>12353092
Related OKC question for guys
Im fucking sick of getting rude, just plain mean messages when I dont reply. Do guys not realize that girls get more messages than them? And why do they think they are entitled to a reply every time?
Im assuming it comes from bruised egos, but it really hurts my feelings when guys make rude remarks on something I said in my profile.

>>12353135
lol

>>12353116

That would be a bit weird, but I wouldn't judge him on that. Not everyone is happy with their bodies- I know I'm not!

>>12353135
Would you consider Book of Pook PUA shit?

I normally hate that sort of stuff, but BoP was actually pretty relevant even outside of trying to "pick up chicks."

>>12353135

That PUA shit seems to work for stupid people, so whoever takes that and the whole Beta/Alpha shit seriously are deemed mentally retarded in my books.

>>12353141
hurr u r betar faget get away frum me creep!!!

>>12353140

I'm not a man but I kinda know what you mean by that. They're just butthurt that you're not responding to them.

>>12353140
just send a "no thanks, you are not my type". its not that hard

>>12353092
some men get more attractive the older they get. getting older has its benefits!
also: some older men are looking for a more casual way to hook up with women than going through the regular way

women: what boards do you browse?

Women,
How would you recommend a guy approach you at a bar? Open with a joke, a question, compliment, something else?

>>12353108
>>12353114
>>12353158

Also, is it true that men in their late twenties/early thirties and over are more ready for something serious? Or should I still be cautious with such men on OKCupid?

>>12353158
It is that hard, then they will follow up and ask why and send a mean message anyway.

>>12353170
depends on the guy.

>>12353164
/x/, /b/, /soc/ and just recently /adv/

>>12353164
adv, trv, ck, and mu

>>12353149
The book of pook is fantastic. I wouldn't even regard it in the same sentence as PUA material. It's more general advice on how to be a fucking man.

>>12353140
why should you care what some butthurt pants on head wierdo thinks about you?
you shouldn't let it frustrate you that someone else is critiquing you becuase you didn't respond, and don't take it personally that they say bad shit about you, they are doing it to 10 other women as well.

>>12353175

Can you give us some examples of what they said/asked you after you rejected them?

>>12353170
I think there is that chance. But I know that a colleque of mine is on OKCupid and he just uses it to have a good time, see someone, and if it clicks to have fun for a longer time, without letting it get to a relationship

>>12353140
That's simple. They message n+1 girls, most of them don't reply, and those who replay aren't interesed. I can see how you could lose your shit.
Just ignore them. Or reply more often. You can't do anything more about that I suppose.

>>12353149
It had some good tips here and there.

But for the most part it was PUA shit and if someone were to try any of it the girl would probably automatically notice it and think you're a desperate faggot for using PUA techniques

>>12353191
Your opinion is wrong.

>>12353165
How about with just a, "Hi"

A "hi" and a smile is good enough for me.

>>12353150
Just the answer I wanted

Thanks anon

>>12353165

I feel like a compliment would make it awkward, but that's just me. A good joke is fine as long as its not cheesy. I once had a guy hit me with a pool cue and we chatted all night after that.

>>12353092
Studies show that pretty much all bad things that happen in this world are due to men in that early age group...and then they mellow out.

So yeah, pretty much all men get cooler every year.

Women,

What is the worst thing you hate hearing men talk about with you? Like what is a real turnoff?

Girls, what do you think a guy wants?
What do you want?
What is the thought you have when you stay at home masturbating?
What percentage of girls do you think masturbate?

>>12353213
When he starts talking about his ex!

>>12353208

So if, let's say, a woman in her early twenties would like to have a serious relationship, would it be better for her to get with someone more older than her, then?

I think it's still risky because then the man would only get with her because she's a hot young thing and that doesn't last forever... he'll just leave her for a new model after a decade or so.

Women: What do you find attractive in a man? Not the confidence or alpha bullshit. Like how they look. Their clothes? Hair? Body? Other things?

>>12353213

His prior sex life in full detail.

>>12353225
You wouldn't need to worry about that with me.

>>12353207
I'm a guy. I once spilled beer over a girls leg. Made sure she got something to drink and that she had napkins to dry it off. Made a joke about it, but honestly said sorry. Then went on with my evening. Eye contact all the time, in the end I treated her to another drink, chatted with her and every other time I saw her at that pub we chatted.

She has a boyfriend, so that didnt work out at that time. But reacting in a good way, in a bad sitation is a great way to show who you are.

>the moment I used this on porpuse in another bar and hooked up with a girl was glorious

>>12353223

First thing I notice is hair, then their smile

I'm a sucker for guys with curley hair

>>12353223

I like it when men aren't overly masculine in their appearances. I honestly don't care about high cheekbones, facial hair, a strong brow, defined jaw lines, or any of that macho shit. I like a nice, gentle smile, big friendly eyes, and hair that is a bit longer than normal. I like skinny (not too skinny though) to somewhat chubby bodies.

>>12353214
Sex
Good looking
Good looking man on top of me
100%

>>12353187
One said I was pretty but thatll only get me so far if I am a bitch, meanwhile I didnt say one word nor is my profile bitchy. One guy said I wasnt a real person.

>>12353228

I'm guessing you're a virgin, then? Honestly, that doesn't bother me at all, lol.

>>12353240
And you are offended by anons saying that stuff?

Still: you browse 4chan.

You amaze me

>>12353240

Some men are jealous of pretty and hot women, believe it or not. They're just mad that you're on top of the food chain.

>>12353234
No you don't, you're saying you like men with undeveloped babby faces? Lol yeah ofc, you like the typical male model people with defined features, or "pretty boys" with the same defined jaw and nose.

REMEMBER MEN, DON'T LISTEN TO A WOMAN. IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR FACE AND GENETICS. WOMEN ARE LIARS BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR ONLY WEAPON, DECEIT AND MANIPULATION REPLACES STRENGTH.

>>12353229

Hahaha, that's awesome! If that doesn't work, try the pool cue, as long as you don't hit her too hard. Make a joke about how clumsy you are or something

>>12353223
Ottermode muscle mass. In other words, I like the look of leanness on men, with a moderate muscle build. I also like a bit of trimmed and styled facial hair, and a head of hair that is about 4 inches long. The fohawk hair style has always been sexy to me. As far as clothing goes, a non-baggy t-shirt that is one solid colour, with jeans or shorts that are not gangsta baggy.

Instant clothing turn offs are
>baseball cap
>graphic tees for high school children
>gangster-tier bagginess of clothing
>chunky basketball shoes

Ladies: I am rich. I cook. I am a licensed bartender and was trained by the bartending manager at one of the best bars in the city. I do muay thai. I'm very intellectual and I can make just about anyone laugh.

I am, however, somewhat quiet and taciturn and I am a bit overweight. I am not massively obese but I do have a gut. I'm working on it.

My question: I've been on a number of dates recently and they all seemed to go pretty well, I had her laughing, took her to a nice place, had nice conversation, hell, one girl we even completely lost track of time and wound up staying at the bar for 4 1/2 hours.

The thing is, it never seems to go anywhere, and the issue always seems to be the same. No chemistry. They didn't feel anything between us.

What am I doing wrong here?

>>12353244
Yeah, I guess just bc I put myself out there and didnt ask for guys to judge me.
It goes both ways, Ive messaged guys and got no reply and shit thats just life. Theres no need to be a dick.

>>12353249
Crazy person alert

>>12353255
Your looks, no one wants a fat guy. Not even fat women. Women want the top 10% of men. Sorry mate.

>>12353261
I bet you messaged the absolute best that was so insanely out of your league right?

The only time women message a man is when they're atleast 5 levels above themselves.

>>12353261
It's always hard when people judge you. but you can't really help it, nor affect it. So just leave it be.

>>12353221
All I am saying is that men in their late teens to mid twenties are reckless idiots.

>>12353265
Crazy for telling the absolute truth, no dilution, just hard facts. Tell me, why is it that only handsome men can be seen en mass with women? Because women only care about looks 100%. Nothing to do with personality. The only personality that can get women is that of a cunt.

Guys
Have you ever friendzoned a girl? Why?

How do you show a girl you're not interested in her more than as friends?

>>12353221
No it would be best to re evaluate yourself and settle for YOUR league.

>>12353255
Improssibru to tell without observing you in action. Some guys can be really confident about their suave, and brag to me about it, but I always hear the other side of the story from the girl (I'm a girl too) and it's nothing like his interpretation of the events. In fact its usually the opposite: that he just sucks and is delusional.

Not saying that you are delusional, but rather that there can be an infinite number of reasons causing your recent lack of success with the ladies. It might even just be bad luck not really reflective of your courtship. We'd really have to see you in action, and talk to the girls, to know what's up.

>>12353279
I've friendzoned a girl because she was so ridiculously ugly that it made me ashamed and put a thought into my head that she was somehow on my level, it made me sick.

Women, recently I've been hitting the gym lately in order to build muscle and have been seeing results. Of course I don't primarily lift for women, but I'd like to know how greatly adding some muscle will have an affect on getting dem bitches?

>>12353272
Nope. I have low self esteem, why would I do that?
>>12353276
I know. I just let people get to me, but Im working on putting a wall up.

>>12353279
because i am a virgin and afraid of sex.
sounds funny, is not really funny.

>>12353278
lel 2/10
And that's all you get, Mr. Grumpy Pants!

>>12353267
See, the thing about this is I see fat guys with girlfriends/wives all the time. I have fat friends who have fucking gorgeous girlfriends (my buddy Rob is 350 pounds and his girlfriend is a 10. straight up. She's a model). Yeah, it's true that most women seem to have rather unrealistic standards, but to say that all women will only fuck/date absolutely gorgeous dudes 100% of the time is obviously untrue. I don't have ugly features. I have a strong jaw, I have wide, muscular shoulders, I have very deep, dark eyes and long brown hair (my ex LOVED my hair. She used to play with it all the time).

I just wonder if maybe I come off a bit too reserved, a bit too calm. Maybe they see me as kind of distant or uniterested, I don't know. I feel like maybe I come off as all business and don't really seem fun/flirty/sexy.

>>12353255
If you have a big gut-that is probably the turn off for some women just like it is for men.

Personally, I love my men with meat but I also have to like what they look like (ie their face, their style etc). Are you totally against posting a pic? Not for me-I'm taken but maybe I can give you some pointers on your style etc.?

>>12353281
Why are you lying to him? If the woman was attracted to him at first he would get so much leeway and she would have fucked him. She wasn't attracted to him because of LOOKS.

>>12353285
You'd look aesthetically more pleasing, so I can hardly see it being a negative.

>>12353289
I know this.

>>12353295
Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are speaking.

>>12353289
>>12353304
Also not a virgin, had sex multiple times, with multiple girls.
To my believing, not even doing a bad job with the hands and tongue. But I never come myself. I just can't finish, and the girls are to clumbsy with their hands.

All in all, I like sex, but I don't really dig it and am afraid of my performace every time.

>>12353288
>I have low self esteem

And you need a man who's much better than you to boost that esteem and to seek validation. You just answered yourself.

>>12353293
Yeah because these men have money or status. Or they probably slammed that bitch with a kid and locked her down. TRUST ME, if a woman likes you, she'll make it clear. The only reason women have liked me is because of my looks, and I'm not even that good looking.

>>12353255
As shallow as it is, I think I've only ever liked one guy who I wasn't attracted to. He reeled me in by spending a lot of time with me and making me laugh. That didn't go anywhere though, he decided to date a girl who was prettier than me.

>>12353281
Makes sense. I can only go by her reactions, really, but they always seem like they're having a good time. I don't really try to play the douchey, suave guy card, I just try to be honest, talk to her, ask her about herself, tell her about me, make a few jokes, etc.

I just know what they all seem to tell me afterward. No chemistry.

>>12353306
Delusional liberal trying so hard to keep men sedated on lies.

Women:

I am 20 years old.
I am to be a doctor.
I am at the very least decent-looking, when I try I believe I'm good looking.
I work out and live a healthy lifestyle.
I'm shy at first, but once I warm up I'm engaging and fun to talk to.
I would like to think that I treat all those around me with respect.

Why can't I get in your panties? ( ._.)

>>12353279
Men are just as cryptic as women are in this regard.

If they are douchebags, you will know because they will try and resist conversation with you but if they are good guys, they may just act really friendly towards you.

Luckily for you, you don't really have to worry because you will always be friendzoned unless he asks you out.

if you like him act interested and dont be a bitch

>>12353319
You forgot to take your schizo pills this morning.

>>12353316
Women aren't attracted to men, they're attracted to the thought of having the best they can get and knowing they made it with a "handsome guy".

>>12353314
I have money. The "they have money" argument doesn't really hold water.

Guy here, is there any chance that you would get back with your ex boyfriend, even if the break up was amicable but the romantic feelings gone?

>>12353288
Every girl has a low self esteem. Even the 10/10. That''s a well known fact.

And the girls saying that they have a positive view of themselves. Are lying to get that positive view up. Because if they wouldnt do that, their dream world, and dream body would collapse within a moment. And they know that.

It's all about the standards yo

>>12353328
Also, only men can appreciate beauty. Women only try to mimic it.

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Women, this is my goal body. Of course, I'm nowhere near right now.
Having said that, is it attractive, or 'too big'?

Why do girls feel the need to act feminine?

>>12353322
Because you're shy. Must seduce.

>>12353339
I think it looks strange.
Less big and a little more natural looking or thinner would be my ideal.

>>12353339
I personally like the look of thinner arms (not thin arms, just thinner than that). Everything else seems really good.

>>12353339

That's going to require 5 years of hardcore dedication or steroids.

Good luck.

>>12353237
As a guy, I will answer with what I thought before hearing these answers

Love (sex in close second)
The D
Getting cummed inside
Same percent as men but they'd never admit it

So your answers are pretty close to what I expected.

>>12353357

I can't help it! A chick gives me eye contact and smiles and I fold like a... something that folds really easily. What if I make an ass of myself? What if her boyfriend is in prison and makes a list of all those who try hitting on his girl?

>>12353362
Nah i'm a dude, dude. I'm just bitter because women never tell the truth and even lie on an imageboard where no one knows them, I mean, what the fuck is the point?

>>12353372
Because they don't even realize they're lying. Because it's what they're conditioned to do. Because we're a fucked up species.

>>12353339

Well I can't speak for all of us ladies, but I like what I see in that picture.

Do women really find two guys kissing sexy?

>>12353369
ooohgoood. I know this feel.

I also think: what if I am bothering this girl right now? I mean: maybe she doesnt want to be hit on right now. right? I also worry I would seem to be only interested because of the sex. whilst that isnt even a matter (most of the time). I just don't know how to approach a girl, and to make it feel natural and fun. Acting interested and feeling if something is coming out of it, without making it feel like: pressured. or something

ohwell

>>12353069 (OP)
Girls: This is a tricky question: What kind of an specifical type of shave you girls prefer on a man?


Everything shaved?

Only the dick and the balls shaved?


Descriptions are welcome :) I want ideas to keep it clean down there without messing too much

>>12353372
You're actually lying right now. What's the point of that?

>>12353380
It's just bad how we're so damn different man. Men are brutal and honest, they ride the tide of truth and you can tell when a man is lying. But with women, their ENTIRE existence is based around fantasy and that of lies, deceit and manipulation. I don't even know how they live like that, do they sometimes need breaks to themselves where they cry about what they are? I guess that's the reason for their low self esteem, because they know they're all hollow husks who only have one purpose.

>>12353383
Not sexy, but it is endearing when two straight guys are engaged in a physical bromance.

>>12353369

Don't worry so much. Work on building your confidence level first then. On the bright side, you have nothing to lose. If your flirting doesn't work, on to the next one right?

>>12353396
Lying about what? What? You're retarded.

>>12353408
Don't listen to this anon. Maximize your looks first then care about your so called "confidence" later.

>>12353393

If I'm sucking that D, I want it at least trimmed. I don't like all the hair in my mouth

>>12353404
Huh. Cool, thanks for answering.

>>12353400
I'm other words, you're just upset nobody would fuck you, so you have to invent all these things up about women to reduce your cognitive dissonance. Surely you're not the problem--it's everybody else's fault, right?

Seriously, why are you so deep in denial?

>>12353400
I'm a borderline-misogynist and even that seems way to sexist for me.

I'd say that there's the same number of shady girls as there are guys.

There IS a much higher number of girls with self-esteem issues, but that's an entirely different topic.

>>12353372
So, you pretended to be a girl and answered my questionnaire that I wanted a girl to answer, but it's girls that are the liers?

>>12353409
>Now you know what it feels like to talk to someone like yourself

Ladies:

How can I ask you what you see in your boyfriend, with out coming off as a dick and a relationship 'underminer'

>>12353415
You're kidding, right?

Realizing that confidence is more important than looks (so long as you're not AMIGAD NO) is as simple as going on YouTube and watching SimplePickup's videos.

Women, do you enjoy sucking dick?

>>12353430
BUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN

>>12353426
>way to
way too
My bad.

>>12353435
Ask the question differently. Maybe something like:
>What are the qualities you love the most about your boyfriend?

>>12353422
But I do have women wanting to fuck me, they're just damn ugly or fat. You know why that is? Because women only want men 3 points above them, fucking degenerates can't date withing their OWN LEAGUE. Selling their cunts to the top 10% of men.

>>12353092
older ones have more money

>>12353430
At least I confessed, more than a woman would ever fucking do.

>>12353439
Sucking dick can be a hit or miss for me. I enjoy it when:
>There's no smell
>He's extremely hard
>I'm aroused myself

Ask men some questions you cunts.

>>12353069 (OP)

Women: Had an argument with GF over the dirty "jokes" she constantly tells. Got really annoyed and frustrated with her. IMO, our difference in values is very problematic and I don't think the relationship can work and told her how I felt.

We worked things out for now and talked for around 2 hours afterwards and everything seemed good, but when I went to bed she seemed really cold.

It is an LDR and we communicate via Facetime (around every other day) and imessage (daily). She usually says good night and either blows me a kiss or messages me one. She didn't last night and wasn't friendly at all this morning so I'm leaving her alone and giving her some space.

For those wondering, I was not planning on communicating as much as we have been. The hours on FaceTime were her suggestion. She's dramatically gone from very clingy to cold.

I don't think she loves me, but she thinks so. I think her infatuation is fading and that my admittedly extreme reaction probably hurt her.

We have both agreed that if either of us wants to end things that we will just come out and say so instead of playing the fading away game.

I don't know what to think or do other than back off until she wants to talk again.

LF gf pst

>>12353438
Nope, getting numbers =/= having sex you dumb nerd. Looks destroys all other aspects of life when it comes to getting women, ESPECIALLY in the early 20s. Oh boy is it fucking bad at this stage.

>>12353456
I bet you dress in drag and let guys fuck your ass, ans when they get pissed you're a guy you say "Well at least I admit I'm a guy, not like those girls who will never admit to being a guy!"

>>12353439

I know quite a few ladies who don't, personally I do. I love it. I love the look on their face, and the look they give me when I want them to cum in my mouth.

Women:
Is it a turn off if a guy tries to talk to you but continues to blush? I know it sounds retarded, but I can't control it sometimes.

>>12353452
guy here...it's actually in their biology

back in the day women only use to whore out to the 'alpha male' while the other dudes just watched.

>>12353460
They don't bother because they got us wrapped around their golden little fingers and we must obey their god like pussy to ever get some. They have absolutely no problems when it comes to procuring relationships, the only problems they have is how to get chad mcthundercock or how to get him to cheat on his current girl.

>>12353452
So you think you're entitled to pussy because you're a 4/10? hahaha
Anyway:
>Never see hot man with ugly chick
>Easier to see hot chick with ugly man
There goes that argument of yours.

>>12353479
yeah in the /adv/ book of history

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>>12353474

>and the look they give me when I want them to cum in my mouth.

>>12353482
>chad mcthundercock

XD

Is the chick from Pennsylvania here?

>tfw just want conversation

>>12353486

Hahaha, their reaction is just a big turn on for me :p

>>12353461

Anyone?

>>12353482
>Surely it can't be because 4chan is 80% men, 10% women!
>Surely the uneven asking ratio of questions is because CUNTS

>>12353484
I'm not a 4/10, 6-7/10 most days. I just for the life of me can't get a stuck up bitch within my level. Probably because I'm 5'9", but that just confirms looks are all that matters.

>>12353490

I'm not who you seek, but I'm a chick from Pennsylvania :p

LADIES

If Stannis Baratheon required you to spread your legs for his army in order to spur passion in them before a cataclysmic battle that will determine the faith of Westeros, would you do it?

Would you engage in lesbian activities with Cersei in order for her to convince Joffrey to spare Ned Stark?

Would you fuck your way through the Iron Islands to save Theon from endless torture?

Please answer in detail.

>>12353500
Alright then. So tell me about yourself.

>>12353506

SHE LIKES SUCKING DICK WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?

>>12353484
I've seen the most handsome men fuck the most deplorable of women. Men can literally have no standards sometimes while women have a constant, high standard their whole life.

>>12353502

NEED ANSWERS.

>>12353369

Same here, I find It hard to approach a women If I don't have an excuse or an 'escape plan' if you can call it that if things go wrong.

When I talk to them usually goes ok, specially If it's just the two of us talking but I still end up in the friendzone.

>>12353498
>Surely it can't be my vapid cunt of a personality that drives women away
>Surely my spoiled brat demeanour is the best a man can offer
You embody the qualities of the women you hate:
- Entitled
- Spoiled
- Wants more than his worth
- Unintelligent by nature

>>12353506
I'm 21, have a full time job, live with my parents, like to play games on steam.

>>12353438
This is such a myth. Protip: women don't know what they want, so you can.'t ask them. Looks are way more important to most not all women. One reason is women get to choose, it's a sellers market for them. They don't have to settle. They will say he is charming and funny and cool, but the ugly guy with the same personality will be "off putting, weird, makes me uncover table"

>>12353502

GIVE.
ME.
ANSWERS.
PLEASE.

How do i start talking to this girl who probably thinks i'm creepy, and i haven't seen in a year or so.

>>12353279
Yes, more than once, because I apparently attract some sick cocktail of the "independent, forward-thinking, very quirky and unique woman" type that just comes across as tryhard to me and it's very bothersome

>>12353525
>Personality

There's that word again! The word that has no bearing in young relationships!

I don't want more than I'm worth, I'm a logical man, I did aeronautical engineering so i'm not irrational, i want women in MY league.

>>12353540
Your league is not based on logic. You can't get anything worthwile. You have nothing to offer.

Women, be honest, do you like wearing thongs? Or is it just for us?

>>12353279
Only girl I friendzoned was because she just talked way to much.

Don't get me wrong. I love a chatty girl. But she wasnt listeing. Every conversation went about her.

>>12353528
Im 21, going to college, live with my parents, work summer and play games on steam.

What games do you play?

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This is for girls I guess:

>be fat, shy guy in high school
>go to college
>eat better, exercise, been losing weight since I started college (almost 1 year ago)
>now better looking, more confident, etc
>I notice some girls actually look at me

Now, sure my self-confidence and self-esteem have improved but I'm still insecure.
So, girls, do you think they look at me because:
a)I became good looking. (can't post picture, sorry).
b)I have a facial deformity/look strange/funny (fucking body dysmorphia).
c)They are just surprised at how much I've changed.

I mean, do you even notice ugly people around your campus?

I wish It was okay to walk around wearing masks ;_;

>>12353548
How do you come to this deduction? I'm more worthy than 80% of women, because almost all women are naturally ugly without makeup and their only value is that between their legs. Just throw a couple bills their way and they come crawling like worms.

>>12353461
not a woman but can give advice becuase similar situation. The thing to do is give it time for her to figure out what she wants. I've had siutations like this and things can be very hard to resolve when not face to face becuase oyou lose a lot of communication, you need to give her some space and then press the issue a little more aggressively becuase she won't.

>>12353495
And 10% futanari?

>>12353540
But you lie about how attractive you really are, such that you actually started believing your bullshit, because you feel entitled to better looking women.

>>12353548

Not same guy but

What does a woman in their 20's want in return?

>>12353560
I came to that conclusion solely based on your fucked up posts my friend

LADIES

Are you open to threesomes? Have you ever had a threesome? How was it? Did it consist of 2 guys or 1 girl 1 guy?

>>12353554

Which college? I play l4d 1&2, killing floor, saints row the third, and recently started playing tf2. I have a few games that I don't play anymore

>>12353560
And all those charming qualities you'd listed about yourself, only desperate hambeasts want you.

>>12353502
yes, but i wouldn't let any of them fuck me, insipiration is temptation, and temptation can only go so far
yes, but i dsoubt it even though joffrey is more a dick in the TV series than he was in the books he is still a gigantic asshat and wouldn't spare nmed stark either way, if you'll remember cersei was the one that told him to spare ned stark anyway.
no, he isn't in the iron islands he is in the dreadfort in the north

>>12353564
Exactly!

>>12353565
Then you confirm my theory that it's only about looks because women could never date down a notch in the looks department.

>>12353588
It confirms that you are a narcisstic faggot

>>12353536
pls answer this

>>12353565
Shouldn't a man feel more attractive than he is to get women? I thought that was the confidence bullshit you women keep spouting. Mind your step, don't wanna trip up again.

Women:

Are guys who listen to heavy metal a turnoff?
Because heavy metal is all I can tolerate, that and Godspeed you! black emperor!

>>12353588
By that logic, neither can you, because your whole argument in pivotal around how attractive you think you are and how that makes you entitled to pussy. Clearly, you hold looks in the highest regards.
Anyway:
>There are more unattractive men with attractive women than the other way around
Reality flies in the face of your delusions.

>>12353593
>faggot

Why don't you just fuck out the argument already you lying creature. Don't worry though, soon your cunt will be all dried up and no man will want your sorry ass. So keep lying and being arrogant.

>>12353597
>Shouldn't a man feel more attractive than he is to get women? I thought that was the confidence bullshit you women keep spouting
Nope, sounds like you misunderstood the definition of confidence.

>>12353574
>>12353574
>>12353574

>>12353602
I don't see it. 90% of couples I see are looks matched and only exist at 7/10+.

>>12353576
Just a local community college. Im from Maryland.

You should get counterstrike global offensive

>>12353609
What is confidence then oh wise ghandi?

>>12353605
Cunts don't dry up unless there is a health complication.
Haha, he doesn't know basic biology but still uses it as a weapon!

>>12353615
Ah, I was thinking you were from here. And hmm I might look into it :-)

>>12353617
>self confidence
>Web definitions
>assurance: freedom from doubt; belief in yourself and your abilities

>>12353619
Your looks will fade by the time you hit 25 and you'll be a big fat shit with some loser husband.

>>12353614
>90% of couples I see are looks matched and only exist at 7/10+.
Of course. But in unmatched couples, the female is generally more attractive than the male. Therefore, out the window goes his proposition that women always go after/date men who are 3 points above their own attractiveness scale.

>>12353615
I think you should :)

>>12353634
No impossible, men are naturally more aesthetically pleasing than women, why do you think women cake on make up and go through surgery?

>>12353628
And yet my life will still be so much better than yours.
>stay mad

>>12353645
>Claiming that reality is impossible
>Being this retarded

>>12353635

I almost missed this. Lol um what other games do you play

>>12353646
No it won't, you're a woman. You can't experience genuine emotions like real humans can. Also your potential for greatness and glory is like a tenth of mans.

>>12353661
Starcraft 2, and a little bit of TF2

>>12353668

Ah, I don't play starcraft. And I'm still kinda a nub at tf2

>>12353679
Well get cs:go, its 15 bucks

>>12353696

Ah that's cheap, why not. Haha.

>>12353092
i'd guess the kids in their teens/twenties don't really have many irl options because they're weird/have stupidly high standards
>>12353140
nice guy syndrome gets worse when you add the internet/potential anonymity
>>12353279
yes, 1st two times it was because i was pursuing a different girl, 3rd time was because I was going to uni in 4-5 months and didn't want to start a ldr (wouldn't be fair to me, wouldn't be fair to her)

>>12353663
And yet, my pure existence riles you to the bone. I can go on living my life not concerned two shits about you, but I'll always be burning a whole in your heart. In the worst way, you've made pussy the pedestal of your life. Forever women will be above you, because you are so entirely controlled by your hatred towards them, that you can hardly function.

But yeah, no, really. You're a big, strong, independent man who doesn't need a women in his life (lel). I feel ~so~ subordinate to you, watching you wail about your women woes and what not.

>>12353699
Whats your steam?

>>12353704

Kidvengeance

WOMEN

What are your thoughts on feminism? Do you think men and women are inherently different? How do you reconcile your views of the aforementioned?

>>12353717
Added

Girls:

The usual line is that women can get with men easier than men can get with women. Would you agree with this generally?

Women:

Is there any real reason I should bother trying to date you? What good could possibly come of it for my sake?

Girls: For starters, I'm not looking for sympathy, but you can give a bit if you like, provided you answer my question too. I was abused as a kid and bullied all throughout early school, rejected by most peers. My mom beat, guilt, and shamed sexuality out of me. Fastforward to now, I'm a sexy mathafakka, and plenty of cute girls in my classes are into me, probably cuz I lift weights a lot. Anyways, how do I go about being sexual with you? I always feel creepy for even thinking sexual, but I also recognize it's just old patterns... What's ok to do? Anyone can respond really.

>>12353979
yes, that is generally the way it goes for the simple reason that most women find most men average or unattractive -- at least that's what I read on /r9k/.

this isn't always the case however. men who are aware of their own worth turn down women all the time for lots of reasons. these men know their options, they don't have to bend over backwards for bitches like everyone else does. a woman has to work very hard to get this caliber of man. the funny thing is, even though women may be extremely attracted to him, they won't fuck with him because they're not used to putting effort into getting mates; these women would rather get with an average dude because at least he's guaranteed to do all the work. and these same women are, in turn, proving their own lack of value, making it easier for the high-quality man to find a good woman.

a good majority of men have no self-worth though, so they consider themselves blessed to have even an average women bestow any attention on them. it's fucked up

Girls: What would your reaction be if a guy you had an affair with told your boyfriend about the affair. This is assuming you never told your affair about your boyfriend.

>>12353069 (OP)

Women

I've fucked up

I know my GF has been with at least 3 guys (no idea how many girls those guys have been with) and suggested she get tested for STDs before we become sexually active.

She tried to pass it off and said it was a good idea that she never thought of, but I could tell that it bothered her a lot. She finally admitted to me that it bothered her after I apologized several times.

Now she doesn't want to talk to me until she gets the results...which will take as long as a week or two.

So basically I should just write this off as probably being over now, right?

Women: Do you prefer pubes to be full, trimmed, or fully shaved?

>>12354197
What reaction is there to be had?
She took the gamble and lost.

>>12354242

Just curious how much blowback to expect

>>12354254
I assume she had the affair with you. Am I correct? Did you know she had a bf at the time, or did u find out?

Women: How possible is it to go from the friendzone to friends with benefits?

After having "we just where horny" sex, what would good behavior be so you feel like having sex with me again under the same circumstances?

I ask because after having sex with my friends they either never want to do it again or simply stop talking to me, yeah I already considered that I suck at sex, but let's pretend that's not the issue.

>>12354269

No, she never told me. And yes, I was the affair.

>>12354277
Were u in yesterdays thread or like sometime during the last week?

>>12353069 (OP)
FOR GIRLS: How many months after getting a boyfriend or starting a relationship did you lose your virginity?

>>12354271
Sex is very emotional for us girls and we need to know that you truly care.

>>12354281

Yea, still thinking about it. I thought I wasnt gonna, but Im feeling guilty again

question for girls,
what is the best way to make a move on y'all

Men: Ever had a successful fwb situation? How did that go?

>>12354323

>>12354285
I lost it due to a hook up. I don't regret it and I don't feel like "used goods". I do however regret dating the asshole afterwards though... should have just banged him and went home that night.

>>12354323

I ended up caring about her. She ended up having a BF

>>12354340
I see. My girl is being kinda hard on this matter, all I could do in 2 months is sucking titities and that is it. Too religious I guess.

>>12354323
It never ends well, but it's always worth it.

>>12354355
At least she ain't a slut. But thats harsh... only titties.

>>12354394
Well, I got a handjob but only once. Dunno, she is that type that "wanna marry" and all that.

Men: Not trying to be offensive but I'm wondering, why do you fall so hard, so early? Its rare that I really "fall" for a guy but my male friends always seem to be in love with some girl that they barely know... like emotionally, not like they just wanna tap that. And every guy I date says they are in love with me waaaay too early. Not to mention all the guys that say they are "in love" with me or my friends, when they haven't even dated!! I feel like I have to freakin make myself less attractive in order to not have to constantly friendzone every male that enters my life.

>>12354444
Biology, we're designed to spread our seed as much as possible. Standards aren't as high because 5 minutes of sex has little impact on us, compared to 9 months of pregnancy for a woman.

Easy for us to be attracted. Also, love is subjective. Means different things for different people.

>>12354444

Honestly, IDK. I started to "love" a girl recently but we had been sleeping together for about two weeks. It wasnt really love yet, I just cared about her and liked spending time with her a lot.

If guys are falling in "love" with you before youve even been hanging out 1v1, or before youve been sleeping together, then they are just autistic. JW, how old is your friend group?

>>12354460
Well I just think guys think they are in love but don't actually understand it. They cannot perceive that they are just infatuated and they take their infatuation soooo damn seriously that they actually think it is love!! Why do they do this?

Like if a guy was just really physically attracted I would understand but why do they think girls they never dated must be the love of their lives!!

>>12354444
I say "I love you" asap in order to try to break your defenses and make you have sex with me. I am just being honest, that is the truth.

I'd really like to date a woman like this; http://thegestianpoet.tumblr.com/

I just don't really know how to find people like that or approach them or really do anything. I am a giant baby I guess

>>12354485
Fuck you, Dane.

>>12354480
Love is subjective. Meaning it means different things to different people. There's no strict definition of love.

>>12354505
Yea I think that is dumb and I don't think that what these guys are feeling is anything more than intense infatuation. But why take your attractions so seriously, and let them escalate to a consuming level? I've had crushes on guys, definitely could not get them off my mind, but I never felt that I was in love with them. And when I couldn't have them I didn't take it as a tragedy.

>>12354476
Well I'm 20 now and this still happens... but its been happening since I was 16.

>>12354577

>20 now

Yea man, IDK. I think its probably just because they dont have enough experience with women. You would be surprised how many guys in college are actually virgins or have only been with 1 girl. Personally, Im 20 also, and Ive only had sex with 3 girls. Fortunately, 2 of them were pretty long term relationships, so I got TONS of experience in bed

>>12354604
Even for a virgin, it sounds so immature to confuse infatuation for love. It really gets on my nerves, too.

>>12354636

>even for a virgin...

I dont know what to say man. Kids take forever to grow up nowadays, and boys are much worse than girls for some reason. Im really just assuming its emotional inexperience

Girls:

Say theres a guy you want to fuck (I KNOW she wants it). How would you react to a text that just says "FWB?"

Also, with a FWB thing, do you just want to come over, take your clothes off, and fuck? Or do you want it to be closer to a date

>>12354636

Just want to add, as a male, those guys get on my nerves too. They act awkward when men who women like walk in the room. They get clingy, defensive, and weird. They kill vibes.

>>12354636
>Getting upset at someone's opinion being different.

Would you be okay with your girlfriend not wanting to get married?

>>12354663
Personally, if its fwb he wants, then it better be strictly fwb. If he's hot of course.

Be careful though because some girls will try to use the fwb thing to trap you emotionally. I on the other hand, will instantly back off if I begin to feel you are trying to turn this into a date.

>>12354679
if she doesnt want to get married ever, im burying her in the back yard

>>12354686
:(

>>12354672
So true. They get mad at girls who don't like them back, too. All around buzzkills, and they wonder why they aren't wanted.

What is even worse is when they try to alter the pecking order. Like if a guy wants to hook up with a chick, but his beta friend tells him not to because he wants a chance(or he gets mad if they do get together), when the girl clearly doesn't want him at all. It spoils the fun for everyone. And yes this does happen.

>>12354444
Nice quads. I love you.

For a lot of guys it's not so much about falling in love with that girl, but falling in love with any girl. Or desperation. When you live with such low hopes for yourself and a girl gives you attention, it's something that's very eventful. We betas start to see you in a holier-than-i sort of way, or not as you really are. And we don't really see life in a grown up way.

Bump for my question...>>12354155

>>12354724
>tfw I'm friends with a motherfucker whose just like this
>tfw the whole time I'm reading your post, I'm thinking of that beta fuck

>>12354682

Im actually the other way around. I recently got to close to a girl without realizing she was more into the FWB thing. I asked her on a date, and she got really freaked out (wtf? she told me she really liked spending time with me, even out of bed.). Personally, I think thats kind of fucked up, and I dont respect it. I would, however, enter a FWB with the expectation that it might turn into more, or it might not.

The point is, is "FWB?" too direct? Like I said, I know she wants to fuck me, and I know she has been down for FWB before

Women:

Why do girls act hot and cold? i.e. they are all over you in some instances but ignore you in other ones.

>>12354780
Try to sexually dominate the girl while at the same time accommodating for her. Be a benevolent leader. Touch her for your own pleasure, then ask her what she wants. If she doesn't know, try things and ask "like this?". And be patient... girls need a lot of foreplay to loosen up. Use dirty talk to make her feel pretty and get you both in the mood. Communication is very important.

And don't be ashamed... my childhood wasn't nearly as harsh as yours but my church did make me feel guilty for being sexual. I'm telling you though there is nothing wrong with getting into it and taking what you want.

>>12354722
Into the ground you go!

Why dont u wanna get married?

>>12354155
Better to wait for the girl to ask first, but leave plenty of hints here and there to let you know you're interested. If there are certain girls giving you a lot of attention or ones that you hang out with a lot, see how they react when you touch them or put your hand on their waist, hip, etc. If they react favorably, it's probably a good call to start moving in a molder direction.

If you mean specifically inviting someone over for sex or something, usually saying "Want to come over" or something similarly vague will work. You want to set up a situation where sex can happen, not straight up ask for it.

>>12354804
Why wouldn't you respect it? You sound like you're the one in the wrong for trying to take something strictly casual to the relationship level. She's doing nothing wrong... you are though ya dumbass.

FWB does not sound too direct, but if you don't respect the woman than you are not mature enough for such an endeavor.

>>12354852
Sexually dominate how? How do I gauge how far is okay to go when initiating the touching? I don't really know "etiquette" for escalating the amount of touching. This girl in my glass touches me a lot and we've hanged out a couple times, she play felt me up in class once... Yeah I'm retarded, but it feels alien to me.

>>12354823
How do I put my hand on her waist or hips, or even any part of her? Is it more about being in the moment and going with what I feel is right?

>>12354909
Yeah, something casual like if you're all taking a group picture or something like that. Hell, you can even test the waters by pretending like you have to get past her and gently guiding her body out of the way by placing your hand on her hip and moving her. They should be small, short instances, not like an evening-long ordeal.

>>12354878

>she was doing nothing wrong

Well, you know...she talked about family to me, shed kiss me on the cheek, shed sleep in my bed and cuddle with my all night. So I just asked her out to dinner once, and she flipped her shit. She could have said no like a reasonable person and explained....

Also, I do respect the woman. Shes an accomplished professional and we have a lot in common

>>12354952
It's so easy when you say it like that.. Know any ways I could come across more stuff like that? Like seduction forums, but not so retarded/sexist/misogynistic. Just stuff like you said...?

>>12354994
I cuddle and kiss my fwb. It doesn't mean shit, its part of the fun. Maybe she shouldn't have reacted so strongly as you imply. But still.

Girls:

When you talk to a guy (who's not your bf) about your period, the final nail is in the friendzone coffin, right? There's this girl I know who I used to like, but we've had so many classes together this year that we've actually become pretty good friends (and I no longer have a crush on her). Anyway, the other day she and I had a conversation about her period. Even if I liked her again, it's basically a done deal that I'm so deep in the friendzone we can discuss shit like that, right?

>>12355086
Period discussion doesn't really mean anything either way.

>>12355086
Guy responding. I think you're focusing too much on the words and not enough on the tone behind them and the general feelings felt between the two of you in daily life in general. Relationships (any, not just romantic) are a lot lot lot more than words.

>>12355011
Everything I know is just from experience. Things I've seen at parties, gatherings, whatever you call it. Sometimes even movies or books. The point is, you can read up on this stuff however much you want, but you'll only get good at it if you try it yourself or see how others do it. Sometimes, yeah, you just go with the flow.

Men: do you notice when we wear lip gloss?

>>12355150
yes, because I'm probably staring at your mouth anyway

>>12355092
Really? That always seemed to be something girls only discussed with other girls/guys that don't really pose any future (because they'd want to seem not gross in front of those guys). Perhaps you're right.

>>12355135
> I think you're focusing too much on the words and not enough on the tone behind them and the general feelings felt between the two of you in daily life in general.
Makes sense, actually. We were talking in a joking way, and it seemed like she was trying her hardest to be funny/joking about all of it. We've gotten pretty close in the past year or so.

>Relationships (any, not just romantic) are a lot lot lot more than words.
Which kind of leads me to my next question:

Girls and Guys:
Is it possible to be very good friends with a guy, and vice versa? I know this is some "When Harry Met Sally" shit, but let's put it past any arguments of "eventually they'd want to fuck": that's a given with any male and an attractive female and the other way around. But can you, for instance, rely as a good friend on someone of the opposite sex, completely platonically but also not bitter in the slightest/happy about the situation?

>>12355161
I have an (actually very pretty) platonic friend and I would trust her with my life. No feelings for her, but I've known her since I was 7...

>>12355161
One of my best friends is a girl. (I'm a guy) Only neckbeards say that you can't be friends.

Women.

I'm in High school and it is literally 2 weeks from being over.

A girl I like is reading the same book as me for our Lit class' book clubs, but we're in different groups.

It's the Great Gatsby.

Now my question is, how would you feel if someone invited you to go watch a movie with you and a friend and it turned out the other friend "couldn't" make it?

>>12355173
I'd be suspicious but willing to split a bag of popcorn

>>12355173
john green did this and ended up marrying the woman so

>>12355173
Seing as movies are the shittiest place possible for a date, I'd assume it was platonic and still go.

Women, is it true that some of them sit on chairs with only their panties touching while wearing skirts?

>>12355168
Childhood friends are a completely different monster, usually. [spoiler]unless you're the MC of a harem anime[/spoiler]

>>12355171
>Only neckbeards say that you can't be friends.
That's what I assumed.

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Will women want to fuck me if they make more money than I do?

>>12355137
Thanks Tim. I'll get out into the world :)

>>12355200
I dunno, I wear an extra layer because I'm a germophobe and that's gross

>Girls:
Let's say we're in a long-term, committed relationship and it's you, not me, who has the better position and a higher paying job. Assuming we're as equal, socially, as we should be, would it be wrong for the male to be the "housewife" in the situation and take care of daily things around the house, food shopping, etc? This feels like something that shouldn't be a problem anymore considering the century we live in, but female double standards are the final frontier in social inequality.
>inb4 you just wanna be lazy

>>12355200
Yes, but I think that's because I'm careless and if I want to sit, I'll just sit, skirt be damned. I didn't think it meant anything?
>>12355214
Good luck! You got this.

>>12355228
No, and any woman who thinks there's something wrong with that can get their life and out of yours.

Girls: Is it possible to flirt too much?

I'm getting called a player, when I can't even get one girl interested. Girls say "I always say the right things", and don't trust me that I want a LTR.

>>12355228
Why would it be wrong? And I'd say its more dependent on hours. Whoever is home more often does the housework. If it's me, I'll do it. It's 2013.

>>12355199
Yeah, I know.

My first date was at the movies, didn't work out too well.

We aren't exactly well acquainted as friends would be. Does that do any better?

>>12355150
Yes, even if I'm not particularly attracted to you.
>>12355161
Anything is possible. Probabilities come into play, but never limit what the world can and cannot do simply because logic says you should. Nature will whoop your ass even if you deny there's a tornado at your doorstep.
>>12355206
It's not about your money for most people. If you make it a big deal, you're more likely to run into situations and people that also make it a big deal. The world tends to mirror things for you... So don't place such importance on inconsequential things.
>>12355234
That I do. You're doing good for the world to post like you are here. Much love.
>>12355249
Stop flirting so much and see what happens.

>>12355251
>Why would it be wrong?
That's what I'm asking. But I come from, I guess, a fairly "traditional" town in central Jersey and a lot of the chicks here have their mother's mentality of the same gender roles that were fine in the 50's should totally be fine now. Maybe I just need to get out of here.

>And I'd say its more dependent on hours
Makes sense.

>>12355241
So we're on the same track here? Good.

>>12355290
>Maybe I just need to get out of here.
That's probably it. I live in the glorious north and we just legalized gay marriage. Come join the future.