Why are you so bitter? Some people like this lifestyle, why judge them?

>>8130991
some people also like when someone shits in their mouth

the fact that they like it doesn't make it normal or healthy though

"someone likes something" so it has to be okay, I don't think so

I go to parties and get drunk fairly often. You're wrong, I'm not nearly as depressed as you. It's a way of networking and those of us who aren't depressed basement dwellers actually hate very few people.

>>8130991
It's just weird that I always see posts on /adv/ about how people feel bad that they're not out at a party or club or something.

As someone who used to party, it just is SO fucking bizarre that people would "want" to live like that. It's not like people who party do so because they're just that awesome. It's because they have nothing else to live for. They hate their lives.

I've never had any interest at all in the lifestyle, but it's always annoyed the shit out of me how it's the predominant activity to do if you want to do hang out with anyone.

I agree that partying, drinking, and doing drugs are not entertaining to me. Getting wasted and fucking people just sounds stupid. Doing drugs for the high (assuming there is no addiction involved) also seems very stupid.

I can understand how people enjoy it though.

It's the same as how some will never understand how playing video games are fun despite being completely virtual, or how taking apart and rebuilding things are fun, or how even math equations or reading could be fun.

Anyways, I think its fine if people want a lifestyle like that.

I think you can do so much more but that's just me.

>>8131020

You're basically having face-value conversations about nothing with a large assortment of people. How do you see it as valuable or time well spent?

Honest question.

>>8130967
use speed/thread

Agree with OP 110%, spent about 6 months of my life in the party lifestyle, biggest waste of time ever.

It's sad people do this their entire college careers and wonder why they have a shit job.

Not everyone who goes to parties does so to get piss drunk. I've been to quite a few and ALWAYS found someone who was sober or sober enough to talk coherently. I've had plenty of good conversation, lots of nerd conversation too.
I've gotten drunk maybe twice, once was my first time drinking and my friend convinced me to do 2 tequila shots.

You can be social at a party. the ones who think everyone is drunk or high at parties, are the ones who haven't been to many parties or none at all

>>8131156

Wasting time with random people.

ITT: people who never got invited to parties

>>8131166
it's called socializing in real life instead of wasting time in the basement

>>8131084
First and foremost, I enjoy intoxication. It's a great social lubricant and it helps me open up to people. You might only make small talk at parties, but I usually have relatively engaging conversations and I enjoy meeting people. Even if these people are too shitfaced to keep up a good conversation you've still made a new contacts. I'll run into these people on campus or at other social gatherings and already have some sort of connection with them.

If you arent getting invited to parties its probably because people think youre no fun. Thats what parties are, man, fun. If you think otherwise then youre overthinking it.

>>8131185

But what if you see socializing as a waste of time?

I don't get a charge out of talking to people, I get drained.

>>8131204
then you're a societal reject.
socializing leads to networking and even friendships.

Everything is so loud.

How can you people stand 20+ people being so loud in a small, confined area? And the terrible music that comes on and the idiots that scream "WOOOOOO" when it does?

>>8131197

Alcohol is a great violent lubricant for me. Last thing I want is to see people I know when I'm out doing things too. I see where the disconnect is.

>>8131233

>Networking and friendships

You're trying to find people to help recharge your batteries or help you get ahead in life.

Basically, socializing is manipulation, using other people to get what you want.

Op you've obviously never been to a party, most people, myself included, don't go looking to get demolished. They go looking to get buzzed or a little stoned or a little twisted and chill out with their freinds maybe hook up with a girl. Now i wont deny there have been times where I have goften shittfaced because i wanted to forget about a crappy week, or a girl but it's usually not my intention at a party.
Now what do you do for fun op, tell me that and how it's better than partying

>>8131197
>>8131156
here
I don't enjoy that light headed feeling when one is drunk, so I'll probably only do it on certain occasions with a specific group of people for shits and giggles.
although getting a bit of a buzz does help the conversation start if you're a shy person since alcohol does lower your caution levels, so you open up more than you probably would normally.

>>8131204
I used to be the same way, but it's just not beneficial. You've got to teach yourself to enjoy it because socializing is pretty important if you want to enjoy any success in society.

>>8131266
nope, it doesn't always lead to networking. It can if you find the right people, if it happens awesome, if it doesn't, no problem, I had a conversation instead of sitting in my basement fapping to my waifu and then whining about how I'm forever alone or putting myself on a pedestal.
If I was out to manipulate people, there are so many other ways of achieving that, and ways that are easier.

>>8131309

Yeah, fuck society.

Being social is fun. Sure, I love staying in and playing video games as much as the next person, but I also like to go out and meet new people on occasion. I've made more friends by going to parties than by staying home.
>Occasionally someone will fuck a drunk girl, but she will be terrible in bed and will cry and go on and on about her repressed memories about her father or whatever.
I don't think you've ever had sex.

>>8131341

It's what you're doing when you look for networking and friendships. Just accept it.

>>8131343
This isn't a healthy attitude.

I would party all the time and shit if I didn't have to work and make money and had a lot of friends who could do the same

You know those kids who have parents who have extreme wealth? They can do this shit if they wanted. The masses do it to a lot smaller extent I would imagine

It's a shallow empty life but it looks fun. The problem is when the party is over these guys go back to their loser lives because all they do is party and have random sex

>>8131395

Options are either become a fake, boring public person while also regularly exhausting yourself trying to fit in, in the hopes that these people get you further in life (because that's how things are run apparently), or avoid it all and not be exhausted or waste time dealing with public facades of people who need alcohol before you can get to the good stuff.

Pretty easy choice, really.

>>8131361
accept that you're not a truly functional member of society.

I'm with you bro.

OP here. Saying that I have never had sex or been to a party is such a fucking easy claim to make (not to mention it's completely untrue). I have been to parties and *gasp* have had girlfriends.

I am not against socializing, but I AM against "partying". More specifically, I'm against a prospect of hanging out with people you hate out of some obligation.

http://the-frenemy.com/post/8546440751/how-to-be-social

This is an extremely confusing little document to me. I see it passed around by various women, and they laugh at it, and relate to it. The article itself seems sort of "counter-troll"ish, but it never occurs to these women that if they so despise parties, they should just fucking STOP. There is pressure on being "social", especially with women. So they force themselves to be social, to talk to people they don't like, and form fleeting connections that only last for months.

This is especially true in college. Tons of kids waste their fucking times at these things. I am not against going to clubs (that is, organizations), talking to people in class or at jobs, and hanging out with friends, and so on. But I never see the lonely sad neckbeards on /adv/ want that lifestyle. They want to to "party" and "fuck bitches", not having any real idea of how awful it really can be.

>>8131449

"No, you do it first, then I'll do it."

A functional member of society.

>>8131468
I never said you do it first. Also you never explained why you consider friendships manipulating. Networking also isn't manipulating if you weren't seeking it in the first place.

If you don't like parties, then don't go to parties. I think it's foolish to project the thoughts you have onto other people though.

You're just another dumbfuck who refuses to let reality get in the way of his belief system.

We are social animals, you can rationalize until the cows come home, but it's still going to hurt when your invitation never comes in the mail.

>>8131459
>implying I hang out with people I hate
are they sometimes at a party that I am? Sure. Am I nice to them? fuck no.
>implying I haven't knocked 2 fuckers lights out
just because you dont have the conviction to actually express your feelings against people you hate doEan mean I don't.

>>8131459
>More specifically, I'm against a prospect of hanging out with people you hate out of some obligation.
...dude, I don't think anyone wants that. I actively avoid people who I hate because, well, I HATE THEM. But what about people I don't know yet? How could I hate them? If I go to a party and it isn't fun, I leave, but I won't know if it rocks or sucks until I go. Seriously guys, it's not that complicated to go out and have fun away from a computer screen every once in a while.
>http://the-frenemy.com/post/8546440751/how-to-be-social
Well-adjusted people don't do that shit.

>>8131492

Extraverts (majority of people) recharge by being around other people. They're like solar panels, useless by themselves but the energy starts up when there's more of them together. The recharging can be done with whoever is around (hence why people who move on from school/jobs/towns rarely retain those "friends" over the course of their lifetime). You're manipulating other people to get what you need, an energy recharge.

How sociopathic.

>>8131502

Justifying behavior just because it's "natural" is inconsistent. Paedophilia is natural in the animal kingdom, but we don't tolerate it. Man is called a "rational" animal for a reason.

>>8131550

Nearly all women do it.

>>8131583

I didn't make that leap of logic, you did. I don't think it requires justification. You need to justify spending your free time with people?

>>8131579
sociopaths don't feel remorse, normal people feel remorse.
also
>implying everyone who socializes is an extrovert. I know plenty of people who aren't but still go to have fun. I myself am naturally shy, but I'd rather learn how to deal with people than mope in my house.
>recharge by being around other people.
that's not how it works, wording it as you have, you imply that if someone is tired, suddenly going out with friends will make them not tired.

>>8131587

There's a profound difference between men and women. Men are rational animals. And according to Friedrich Nietzsche, "Women are still cats and birds. Or at best cows".

>>8131459
>More specifically, I'm against a prospect of hanging out with people you hate out of some obligation.

Okay, that is completely different from partying.

Is there some sort of rule that you can't throw a party and keep it small, only inviting who you like and want to be there? I have experienced parties with people I don't like around, but that doesn't make me think i should stop partying, it makes me think I should try and get a different group together.

>>8131637

Yes, you did.

>We are social animals,
>you can rationalize until the cows come home

It's amazing that you can't see the conclusions you made in your own post. You're justifying man's social behavior, because he's a "social" animal. It's also clever that you included a circumstantial ad hominem.

OP is mad because no one invites him to parties.

>>8131726

Circumstantial ad hominem.

>>8131742
And this is why no one invites you to parties.

>>8131726
>>8131759
OP already addressed this.

>>8131708

>It's amazing that you can't see the conclusions you made in your own post.

No, you are just putting words in my mouth. My point was that whether or not it is "right or wrong," this rationalization isn't going to make it hurt any less. I never said anything about what is or isn't morally justified.

Although, and I will say this for what feels like the tenth time, I see no reason why I would need to justify socializing with people.

I agree, OP. I would much rather have a quiet evening by myself in the back yard, a nice lamp, a nice drink and a good book.

>>8131768
He can address it all he wants, it's still true.

>>8131759
I bet anon was that kid in the class that wasn't invited to the birthday party of the girl he liked in grade school, or was that kid who the other kids were forced to invite. So don't be mad at him if the only person he can now trust is in the 2d form of his waifu

I rather enjoy parties OP. While I understand while others may not I am a bit distressed that you seem not to understand that people can experience the same event differently than you and hold different opinions.

>>8131791
Actually he addressed it by stating that it wasn't true lol.

House parties are great, turn up with a few beers and some weed, meet up with your friends after a long week, and kick back and relax a bit. One of my friends has a sweet house layout for this, and 5-12 of us show up every week, out of a possible 25ish. If you're busy, or not feeling up to it, you just don't go. We don't hook up with chicks, we listen to the music we like, play a drinking game, or some pool, pass a J, shoot the shit, and generally have a good time. You've gotta have the right frame of mind I guess.

>It's just a bunch of faggots standing around getting drunk enough that they can have a very surface level conversation with someone that they hate.

This sentence tells me all I need to know about the OP.

>>8131788
I enjoy those as well, but I also enjoy being around people. Being alone is my "recharge" time

>>8131802
Are you really that dense? He's obviously not going to admit to it, either to himself or anyone else. It's a carefully constructed rationalization that keeps him from crying himself to sleep every weekend when no one invites him out.

>>8131803
Exactly. This is how you have a party. Basically hang out with the added benefits of some alcohol and/or drugs. I think OP just went to bad parties.

>>8131828

And now we know what this guy does when left by himself.

>>8131850
you don't even need drugs or drinks to have a party. I've had parties where there was nothing but people wanting some fun. Mind you most of these were costume/event parties

>>8131820
I am an extreme introvert and would probably want such recharge time 29 days out of a month.

Partying is boring as fuck. Why do people like this?

I'd rather be home watching House, Anime, or reading a science book.

come at me.

>>8131880
That can be a bit of an issue. Not saying you should be hanging around people 24/7 or groups of people often. But it is healthy to have some contact once a week

>>8131587
I'm a woman and I don't do it. Sure, I know a few crazy people of both genders who pull that shit, but I tend not to associate with them. If you think that kind of behavior is restricted to one gender then you probably haven't met enough people.
>>8131671
Nietzsche also most likely died a virgin. This doesn't mean he isn't a worthwhile philosopher or that being a virgin is bad, but if it's true, then it speaks volumes about his ability to socialize healthily.

>>8131902

Yeah, but with men, it's more an alpha/beta thing.

>>8131671

>Men are rational animals.

Not really.

>>8131902

He died of Syphilis.

>>8131828
OP here. Just saying that criticizing my supposed prejudice of parties by being prejudiced towards my entire personality is not a very compelling argument. I am actually incredibly extroverted. As I said, I enjoy socializing. I take a philosophical and ethical stance against the prospect of partying.

>>8131803
I actually do this as well, I don't classify it as partying though. No women, no loud music, actually liking the people you're with = not a party. But as I said, I'm against the social obligations. Most MEN beyond freshman year of college don't seem to partake in it. Women however, continue to force conversation for years even after they graduate. It's fucking retarded.

I feel bad for people who don't have the social skills to be fun to talk to even when they're drunk :(

I like going to parties with my friends. They like getting drunk, I like watching them do it. Parties are also pretty good places for dancing with some random chick. Drunk girls aren't my type, but tipsy ones are fun. I don't drink myself, but that's just a lifestyle choice. I can still have fun at parties even if they're ultimately just a waste of time. It's still an excuse to do something. Coming from a college student, this place is fucking boring otherwise. I get bored of watching anime, playing video games, and talking about stupid shit with friends. After parties, I usually get the chance to talk more intimately with friends. I wouldn't trade those moments for much (besides maybe a Ferrari). I need my recharge time, too, and pretty often. Right now is one of those times.
Still, overall, I enjoy the party experience. It's definitely not for everybody. I don't mind a random hookup once in a while, but others aren't interested in that or getting wasted. Those people are what I like to call prudes.

>>8131923
>>8131923
>No women

>>8131071
>Doing drugs for the high also seems very stupid
WTFamireading
When I go to a party I throw down some X and shit always tends to be really awesome as I'll have some conversations that are downright therapist level with people. Alcohol is a shit drug, that's why a lot of parties tend to be shit.

>>8131922
He didn't exhibit the typical symptoms of syphilis. It's far more likely that he succumbed to dementia.

>>8131948
Not a misogynist either. Men act dumb when a women is around for the most part.

Man /adv/ just loves putting words into my mouth doesn't it?

>>8131938

Anyone seen that episode of South Park where Stan becomes a cynical bastard and notices that everything his friends want to do "for fun" is all just shitty wastes of time?

That's how I think of people who are just looking for a good time.

>>8131992
I live in the moment Thursday-Saturday during the nights then study my ass off at least 5 days of the week. The weekends are for having fun.

>>8131992

Yeah same here. I used to be into socializing but then it turned to that...

>>8132015

That makes more sense then. People just looking to have a good time don't want to waste their time if it's not fun, while I don't want to waste my time with something that isn't quality.

The disconnect keeps getting more explanation the longer this topic goes on. :)

>>8131921

At least more rational than women. Women are more religious and take religion more literally than men. Men are more likely to be deistic and atheistic compared to women. Women are also more likely to be promiscuous and abusive. Also, Arthur Schopenhauer stated, "Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place." Sums it up better than I could.

Of course, men are more rational than women, thus men are the rational animal of Earth.

>>8131922
How does the way he died falsifies his philosophy?

>>8131992
>>8132028
and you don't realize why people don't like that?

>>8132049

It's usually the good-timers who take offense when someone else isn't enjoying themselves the same way they are.

>>8131992

Not something to be proud of bro.

>>8132087

Because?

>>8132047

>How does the way he died falsifies his philosophy?

It doesn't but having Syphilis usually means you aren't a virgin.

This thread has made me realize how empty life can seem sometimes.

>>8132103

You really asking why you shouldn't be proud about being a cynical bastard?

>>8132061
no, nobody likes a pretentious asshole being cynical whenever someone tries to do/talk about something pleasant.
It's the same as having an ignorant religion fag only talk about how god is great, or you're going to hell for this, and they are the ones who are right because they have the ultimate source of intelligence etc etc
you're no better than that

partyings not really that awful... granted, my parties might be a bit different than yours; it's essentially everyone in my wide circle of friends chillin like villains.
we chill, we have deep conversations but we also like to gather in large crowds and get smashed, it's fun and a change of pace. there's no need to even socialize with people you know really well, but it's still fun to get drunk with them

There are different kinds of parties I've been to.

Ones like OP is describing, full of people you don't like and drowned out by loud obnoxious music.
Then there's occasional weekend get-togethers with close friends, quiet or no music, just some alcohol and games to play.

It boils down to how people you actually like are there. I don't bother going to parties full of strangers. I've learned my lesson. You need at least somebody you can chill out with.

>>8132209

I know of people who get mad if you're not doing the things that "everyone showed up for." Not drinking at a party = "THEN WHY SHOW UP." It works in reverse too.

And anyways, you're assuming I point out the boring shit they do to them, when I just elect to not go out with them, because I know they're going to waste my time with meaningless shit.

I was at a party two weeks ago and spent a good hour engaged in a conversation about the parallels between different religions i.e. Norse paganism and Calvinism. That led somehow to a discussion of archetypical plot structures being used in diverse media, such as how an album and a book and an entire TV series can follow the same plot development pattern.

Then I talked to a playwright and was invited to audition for his upcoming indie film. (wish me luck)

Parties are clearly senseless and unpoductive.

>>8132274

Meaningless to you, but obviously not to them.

Are you cool about it or are you a dick about it?

Alternatively:

If you are cool about it are they cool about it?

If you are cool about it and they are cool about it, not really a problem here. If you are just being a dick, well that is on you. If you are cool and they are being dicks, well they should work on understanding that this just isn't your thing and not take it personally.

>>8132300
Sounds more like a cocktail party or something.

>>8132209
Applies to atheists too, bro. I've heard more atheists say shit like "my eyes are open" and be condescending assholes in general than I have religionfags.

>>8132274
And the people who get mad about people not drinking are stupid. Parties aren't just for drinking and getting wasted, no one has said that. If they're trying to get you to drink, you're probably just not being involved in anything and they want to include you. My s.o's friends invited me to amoke weed with them but a)I'm allergic to smoke(not terribly, but enough so that I wouldn't be able to talk without coughing or my eyes watering) b(I don't smoke pot, I dislike it. they can do it, I'm not.
I felt like a dick for not at least going out to chat, but I cleared up the reason why after wards and things were fine. they don't care as much as you think they do.

you don't go so how do you know it's going to be uneventful? You don't, you just assume so, probably from some past experiences

>>8132340

Whatever they do is just to recharge themselves. It's draining to me, so I'm usually trying to keep quiet and self-preserve so I don't crack from exhaustion. Worst part is that it's completely meaningless shit and they're just enjoying eachother in order to recharge, so I'm simultaneously bored and exhausted.

And if anyone ever wants to talk about something, they just want to parrot the same opinion back and forth without any kind of analysis, which is what I prefer. If I go in-depth, they lose interest, if they're just blabbing mindlessly, I lose interest.

>at a party for the first time ever with my uni's club
>first hour was pretty fun. Everybody had a little to drink but everything was still great. Girls from other schools were nice and you can actually talk to them
>later in the night, one of the larger colleges comes in, turns into a GRIND YO ASS ON MY DICK kind of a party with people getting drunk everywhere. Gets filled with stuck up bitches who won't give you the time of day.

I think I've had enough of parties for a while.

>>8132346
oh no, it very much does, it applies to pretty much any "group". you're bound to run into assholes. I just used religions because the majority of people on 4 chan consider themselves atheist or agnostic(although atheism is a type of idealistic religion of sorts). I'm agnostic(I guess?), but I just don't talk about religion/beliefs for arguments sake. If I want to talk about it/listen to it, I just want to hear the other person out and learn some of the history and culture even if I may not agree with some of it.

>>8132360

Because in a public setting, people put on their public faces, which are very bland, homogenous and likely just to recharge themselves. That's why they're boring and uneventful. You're not getting anything of meaning from anybody because they're just trying to escape from everything meaningful.

>>8132428
that's why nobody likes party crashers.
play by the rule of each person who is invited can bring one guest.
that way you save yourself and the host from grief

>>8130967
Are you fucking autistic?
I'll go to raves and have conversations deep conversations with people that don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and then some intelligent random will come up, hear something, and then carry on the whole rest of the conversation with them.
I don't hang out with people that I hate

> Occasionally someone will fuck a drunk girl, but she will be terrible in bed and will cry and go on and on about her repressed memories about her father or whatever

What in the flying fuck?

OP you must be the most autistic awkward basement dweller fuck in existence

>>8132464
The whole event was a mixer for different schools with similar clubs to come together at a small bar/club. Everything was fine and dandy til the last school came.

>>8132500

Ya know, I don't think anyone on 4chan really knows what autistic means.

>>8131008
People like socializing you awkward fuck? This is NORMAL. Not everyone finds social situations awkard. And I've NEVER had a girl start crying and talking about her dad what the fuck

>>8132519
I, and everyone else that you've seen saying it, mean aspie autistics

ITT people who have gone to two shit parties v normality

>>8132551
I personally haven't had that happen, but I've heard stories of people going to parties and then becoming depressed fucks who have to be looked after for the rest of the night

ITT:
>STOP JUDGING MAI LIFESTYLE
Imediately turns around and judges someone else's lifestyle.

oh normalfags, u so crazy!

>>8132620

Normalfags don't want anything to be wrong with them. They need to be like everybody else.

>>8132612
Yea some girls do that sometimes but it's about a guy they're dating not their father.

>>8132620
If you're OP, you have some fucking problems. You call socializing awkward (it's only awkward for awkward people), you compare partying to getting shit in the mouth, you talk about a girl crying after sex and talking about how her dad molested her... you're fucking weird

You don't like typical partying because you wind up just sitting alone and not talking to anybody. That's a personal problem and you should probably learn to make friends who you do like to party with

>>8132702
it can be a lot of things, and not only girls
it happens. just not often. And usually only when the person drinks and does drugs


remember anon, he does talk to people! on the internets

>>8132702

>Don't like partying
>"You just need to find friends who you like partying with!"

Normalfags are sure fucking stupid.

>>8132702
Nope.
>>8130967
>>8131459
>>8131923
Was OP.