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    27 KB DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)06:27 No.7964694  
    Went pretty well last time. Ask a Drill Sergeant anything.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:34 No.7964750
    Do the movies exaggerate your harshness?

    What's the general attitude of recruits? Out to prove themselves or generally humble?

    Has anybody ever picked a fight after too much drilling?

    Are females handled any differently?

    Sorry if these are old, I never saw this thread.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:35 No.7964760
    I have no questions to ask you, I just think it's cool that you're a drill Sargent.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)06:53 No.7964775
    >Do the movies exaggerate your harshness?
    Generally speaking they do a pretty accurate job of depicting what it's like. For the time period, anyways. Full Metal Jacket, for instance, is quite a bit different than how it is today. We wouldn't call anyone a faggot, hit anybody, or make privates walk around jerking their junk while reciting a cadence.

    >What's the general attitude of recruits? Out to prove themselves or generally humble?
    Overall I'd say most privates try and keep a low profile. You have your comedians and your showoffs and brown-nosers, but the majority are just trying to stay beneath the radar.

    >Has anybody ever picked a fight after too much drilling?
    I've had two privates take a swing at me, one who was just having a really bad time from stuff going on at home and other issues. I didn't report that one, because I sympathized with what he was dealing with and I wouldn't have chewed his fat if I had known what was going on. The other was just a discipline problem. It doesn't happen often but it does happen, and usually it's privates taking out frustration on other privates.

    >Are females handled any differently?
    Yes. Not hugely but you won't ever see a male Drill Sergeant going into the female latrine.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:53 No.7964780
    WB sarge. Ausfag here, read your thread last night, was very interesting.

    If I ever lose my gf and best friend, I'll have lost enough to not care about shipping off to be molded by someone like you. Then off to SF school with time.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:53 No.7964783
    Bump, this is an interesting thread and a refreshing break from relationshit.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:53 No.7964784
    Anychance you can get me in Contact with DS Abbot? Are you DS Abbot?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:54 No.7964795
    What do you do if you get a real softie?

    Ease up? Talk to him in private (pun intended)?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:54 No.7964803
    do you ever hang out with the recruits after they are done with their training?


    how does that work out?
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)06:55 No.7964808
    >>7964784
    If you wish with all of your heart, all of your dreams will come true.

    >>7964780
    >>7964760
    Thanks, it would be an honor to yell at you.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:56 No.7964809
    >>7964803
    Starship Toopers Roughneck (the cartoon), Drill Seargent Zim joined Rico's squad coz there was no one left to train. No real point to this post, I love that bit in the series haha.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:58 No.7964820
    What's the meanest shit you ever done did?
    The nicest?

    Work related of course.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)06:59 No.7964821
    So, does it bother you that your job is to prepare men to kill and be killed in order to satisfy the balance sheets of corporate america
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)06:59 No.7964824
    >>7964803
    I've run into a few. We usually grab lunch. They're normally really tense for like a half hour and then loosen up. The lasting impression most privates get from me, and their Drill Sergeants, is the first couple of weeks of training when we're the meanest jerks in the world. After a little bit, all the fun that comes after starts coming back to them, and they ease up.

    One guy I had is actually an officer now, so that was fun.

    >>7964795
    Harden him up. Different things work with different privates. Personally I find that a good sense of humor can really appeal to a lot of the 'softies.'
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)07:00 No.7964826
    >>7964821
    You also need a formidable armed forces to deter invasion. With a country as large and full of capitalist goodies like the US, without the army it'd just be taken by someone else.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)07:31 No.7964842
    >>7964820
    I can't really think of anything genuinely 'mean.' Some stuff I've done was probably seen as mean by the privates at the time though. One time, when the privates were in these trailer/barracks, the windows are about neck-high to me. So if I'm standing right outside one, only my head is visible, really. I was doing a walk one night, someone had their window open and I could hear all the privates talking and using their personal time. So I walked up to it and started barking. Not orders, just actual barking. The private on his bunk jumped and hit his head on the bunk above his. I said, "Do I scare you private? Are you afraid of me?" And then I made him show me all the pictures he had been looking at.

    Nicest thing, I guess, would be the private I mentioned earlier taking a swing at me, and then choosing not to report it or have him written up or anything. Lots of bad shit could've happened to him. Losing a month's pay, getting washed out, who knows. But I let him off the chain. And another time I got Burger King for a private on the way back from the hospital because I wanted a cupcake milkshake.

    >>7964821
    I have never graduated a private that sincerely did not want to be in the Army.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)07:31 No.7964846
    Honest answer, what is the exact reason behind the drill?
    I'm from Belgium and have pretty much no idea about any military besides what you see in movies / documentaries.

    Also I'd be quite interested in why you give certain privates a hard time? is it because you don't like them or does it have to do with the reason behind the drill?
    Also adding to that... are there privates you completely ignore and never yell at because you think they're kinda swell?

    What about 'natural leaders' do you see them a lot? Do you treat them any different? Are they being 'watched' to see if they could be put to 'better use' rather than have them die with the rest of the pack?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)07:33 No.7964867
    my boyfriend is a faggot, how do I fix this?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)07:33 No.7964869
    what is the meanest shit the privates ever did to you?
    I'm not a military man, but I can't belive the privates let you shit on them 'for the greater good, and for money', and never do anything about it.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)07:40 No.7964902
    >>7964846
    >Honest answer, what is the exact reason behind the drill?

    Drill and ceremonies? Biggest tool for instilling discipline. I can't really give you one exact reason that adequately describes the purpose of drill.

    >Also I'd be quite interested in why you give certain privates a hard time? is it because you don't like them or does it have to do with the reason behind the drill?
    Also adding to that... are there privates you completely ignore and never yell at because you think they're kinda swell?

    Privates who need a lot of help, either because they just have no common sense, no discipline, whatever it may be, usually get 'singled' out. We'll make them into squad or platoon leaders, give them more responsibility, which equates into more chances to fuck up and get smoked. Some people come to basic training and their recruiters whipped them into shape, or they came from a military family, they have a good head on their shoulders and know what's going on already. Others are completely clueless. It isn't really a matter of, 'I like this guy and hate that one.' It's more like, 'This guy needs special attention because he doesn't know his left from his right, and that guy over there is re-enlisting and already knows all this shit.' We give everyone the same training, just some people require more focused instruction.

    >What about 'natural leaders' do you see them a lot? Do you treat them any different? Are they being 'watched' to see if they could be put to 'better use' rather than have them die with the rest of the pack?

    Everyone is always on the lookout for natural leaders in the Army. In basic training, however, you're better off not standing out. Brown-nosing will get you nowhere. The guy who tries to be the best of the best and push the others around will find out that it's not like high school. I'm not looking for a teacher's pet or an assistant. I'm training soldiers. There really isn't any 'being put to better use' in basic.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)07:44 No.7964927
    >>7964867
    Rub his eyebrows, works every time.

    >>7964869
    I've had privates, usually just one, who resists. Never the whole platoon. To be a bit cliche', I have ways of dealing with privates like that.

    I had one girl who would talk under her breath when in formation to her buddies, or would try and act tough or make fun of me and other Drill Sergeants behind our backs.

    So, I started having HER punish the platoon.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)07:59 No.7965002
    Great Britain has a weaker military than the US, so by your logic, why havent we invaded and taken all their stuff yet?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:02 No.7965016
    >>7965002
    Because Western allies have far more to gain by cooperating. Not to mention the Commonwealth (about 50 countries) have GB's back. And even in an invasion against GB only there would be major losses for the US, which would bring them nothing good.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:06 No.7965033
    >>7965002
    >>7965016
    We're also fundamentally the same.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:07 No.7965038
    >>7965033
    And benefit tremendously from trade with each other. And, ya know, being allied.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:08 No.7965046
    >>7964694
    Hello, Sergeant. I've been wanting to join the army for a while, but I don't know how it works. I'm very much a tech junkie. I love electronics and computers and stuff and I want a career with that. I was wondering if the army was right for me? I mean. I'm overweight. Im 18, 220 lbs, 5'8. I've never had a girlfriend or anything and I work at Mcdonalds. What are some benefits to joining, and do I have to be in the front lines even if I want to be a techie?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:10 No.7965055
    You said ask you anything, so... I've been dating this awesome girl for about 6 months now. She is fucking amazing. I am going on vacation to Japan next month. I guess it's technically a work trip, I do have a meeting to go to, but that's just one day, and I'm staying for 3 weeks. My girl's really into anime, huge gamer, cosplays all that stuff, always wanted to go to Japan. Would it be too early in our relationship to invite her to come with me?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:13 No.7965066
    >>7965055
    Not OP, but 6 months? No way, she'll love it. Just play it call and see if she wants to come with as you'll have some free time while you're there.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:13 No.7965069
    >>7965066
    play it cool*

    haha
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)08:19 No.7965105
    >>7965046
    >Is the army right for me?

    That's a hard question to answer, and only you can really decide that. It's going to be rough. You're not going to have a lot of control or freedoms like you're probably used to. And you can say goodbye to fast food for a long time. At LEAST until AIT.

    But yes, the Army does have tech jobs. Someone has to manage the electronics. It's not always that easy to get those positions though. And there's no guarantee that you won't deploy. I can't think of an MOS that doesn't deploy, and what we always tell privates is 'It's not a question of if you go, it's a question of when.'

    Does every person deploy? No. Some people go in for however many years and just never end up going, but it's not common. Don't enlist with the expectation that you'll never go downrange. And the MOS that you enlist with isn't always the one you wind up doing. The Army can, and will, change your job the second you get out of basic training to fit their needs. Some guys find out on the day of graduation that they aren't going to be an MP or a Cannon Crewmember, but are actually going to be regular grunts. Happens all the time.

    If you DO get a tech job, you probably won't go to the 'front lines.' The computers and stuff are all on the FOB. You might go out on patrol but it's very unlikely. Expect to deploy, like I said, though.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:20 No.7965109
    What can change the nature of a man?
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)08:22 No.7965114
    >>7965055
    I asked my current wife to marry me after about that long, my parents (and hers) both got married after less than a year of knowing each other, and my parents and hers never got divorces or anything.

    So take from that what you will.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)08:22 No.7965119
    >>7965109
    Love and war.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:24 No.7965131
    >>7965105
    Is it really scary like in the movies? One of my biggest fears is getting captured and tortured and stuff. I have nothing going on in this life. No girlfriend (Ever) out of shape, depressed, nothing to do, family hates me, etc. I think I need to be a man and the army could easily do that. How hard is basic training for someone out of shape like me? Should I train before doing basic?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:26 No.7965140
    >>7965066
    >>7965114
    Alright, I'm gonna ask her. This trip is gonna be so much more fun with her there. Goddamn, I'm already getting excited just thinking of all the crazy shit we're gonna do...
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)08:56 No.7965166
    >>7965131
    Basic training is hard no matter what. Your recruiter -should- see to it that you're able to do a decent number of pushups/situps/running before you go. So obviously, yeah, the better shape you are before you go, the easier the physical aspect will be. But I can't count the number of times a private showed up not even able to do a single pushup. It's not supposed to happen but it does, and we whip em into shape anyway.

    If you do deploy you'll probably have more fun with all of the guys in your platoon than 'scary' shit. I've seen combat, killed guys, been shot at, but I remember the fun I had with my squad more than all that. War is real shit, though, don't get me wrong.

    I wouldn't worry as much about getting captured and tortured. Half the time if you do see combat (if it even happens if you get a tech job) it'll be an IED that takes out a couple vehicles, maybe kills a couple of guys, and that's it. A lot of the time you won't even see the enemy. They'll just hit you and run.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)08:56 No.7965170
    >>7965016

    so what youre saying is no single country needs an enormously disproportionate military presence as long as theyre able to maintain strong relationships with their allies? and that, by this logic, the lack of an enormous military might actually necessitate the kind of "good behavior" that would generate the good will that maintains such alliances on the world stage?

    hmmm......interesting. interesting.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)09:16 No.7965301
    >>7965170
    Not at all, you're taking it to the extreme, but go ahead it's the Internet.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)09:46 No.7965493
    Bump, if anyone still has questions.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)09:55 No.7965555
    >>7964694
    ex military here, cavalry scout infact. i just want to let you know that I hate you, and everything you stand for. the army is the biggest group of faggots, brown-nosers, and manbabies i've ever had the discomfort of knowing.

    eat a bowl of baby dicks and die
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)09:56 No.7965567
    >>7965555
    Sorry that it wasn't for you, chief. What do you do now? Fireman, maybe?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:00 No.7965594
    Army or Marines?
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:01 No.7965598
    >>7965594
    Army.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:03 No.7965612
    Do you ever quote Full Metal Jacket in your line of work?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:03 No.7965618
    I meant, which is better?

    Trying to be objective as possible...
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:07 No.7965655
    Ft. Jackson?
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:08 No.7965662
    >>7965618
    Define better. I know a lot of guys in the Army hate/have this rivalry with the marines, and the marines reciprocate. I never cared though. We're on the same side. There's the stereotype that the marines are stricter, more physically demanding, but dumb jarheads. And there's the stereotype the Army is more relaxed, less demanding, and lazy. But it's not true, you'll find all kinds in either branch.

    >>7965612
    Jokingly. Although some phrases are pretty typical. One of the other Drill Sergeants used to say 'major malfunction' all the time. I usually called privates 'killer.'
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:09 No.7965669
    >>7965655
    Yup. Burger King right on base.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:10 No.7965680
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    Why are you spending your time posting on a mediocre imageboard, maggot?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:12 No.7965700
    Fuck, I was here for the last thread. I come here way too often.
    >> Helpfullfag !919GFpBogs 09/30/11(Fri)10:13 No.7965705
    Do you have any tips or trick regarding long-distance relationships?
    To give you some info, we are going to see each other about once or twice a week but otherwise we will be about 2 hours cardrive from each other at different cities.
    I'm a 20yr old university student and she is a 17yr old high school student.
    >Dont do it is not an option.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:14 No.7965712
    >>7965680
    Why are any of us here?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:15 No.7965724
    >>7965669
    Roger, i graduated from ft Jackson a few months back. Bravo 1-34. It was a good experience.

    Ended up going to bomb disposal school, passing phase 1 of the school no problem and then i got involuntarily discharged for being a shitty runner.

    Shit's probably the biggest disappointment of life bro.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:16 No.7965734
    >>7965705
    Never had to deal with a long-distance relationship, myself, didn't meet my wife until after my last deployment.

    Good luck though, that shit is rough.
    >> Helpfullfag !919GFpBogs 09/30/11(Fri)10:17 No.7965736
    >>7965734
    Yea it was worth a shot. Thanks atleast for the answer.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:17 No.7965738
    >>7965712
    Well, I'm starting work on October 20th, and I have a ton of free time, so I go on /adv/ to troll and post misogyny threads. Besides that, I go on jogs, swim, and play vidya. You?
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:45 No.7965754
    >>7965724
    That's too bad, man. I can't believe the number of privates who wash out simply because they can't meet the standards on the run. It's kind of absurd to me that you can have two men in the same position, doing the same job, but because one is a few years older, he stays in, and another guy who is younger gets flushed out. The physical fitness standards for females are a joke, too. I've seen privates who would've made excellent soldiers get chaptered because they couldn't manage just a few more situps, and then older or female privates that I can't believe even managed to place high enough on the ASVAB to get to basic go on to AIT just from the lower standards they have to meet.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:45 No.7965762
    Do you have any advice from all your army experience about life in general? Possibly some philosophy that you found helpful? Maybe about toughing it out or that people are douchebags that sort of thing?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:46 No.7965773
    >>7965734
    What are your thoughts about getting engaged before I deploy? I will be mobeing shortly after next Christmas and i was thinking about it as a suprise before i ship out.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:47 No.7965781
    hey, going to benning in january as 19D

    non-related question you might be able to answer. i plan on becoming a warrant officer to fly. do I just wait until a flight school spot opens to apply?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:47 No.7965791
    What percentage of women get together with army guys for the benefits?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)10:48 No.7965801
    Hey DS, I have a question.

    I know you are an army DS, so most of these questions will be limited to the armed forces in general.

    I'm 22, graduated, and looking to enlist as a Marine corps officer. I have dual citizenship with another country, how will that affect my chances of getting in and getting a NS clearance?

    Have you heard/is there any difference between Marine Corps training and Army training?

    What's the washout rate?

    I haven't contacted my recruiter in a while (due to trying to get my paperwork all done) will this affect my chances of getting in?

    I've heard from veterans that the military is usually chronically short of recruits. However, my recruiter told me that it would take over a year for me to get in (due to military budget cuts). Is this an affect of the budget cuts?

    Is the military still using stop loss to ensure that seasoned personnel stay in the military?

    I know this isn't your specialty, but it would be great if you could answer them.

    Also, i never thought i would say this, but I am glad that I stopped by 4chan today.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)10:48 No.7965805
    >>7965738
    Mostly just vidya.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)11:35 No.7965842
    have you been in Iraq or Afghanistan?
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)11:37 No.7965862
    What kind of training do recruits have to go through exactly? I mean what do you teach them, what do you make them do, what is a typical day like.
    >> DS !!qXjOoxBtbHt 09/30/11(Fri)11:38 No.7965867
    >>7965762
    Live your life the way you want.
    >>7965773
    Getting engaged? Sure. Getting married? Well, I don't know about that. There's no shortage of Dear John letters out there.
    >>7965781
    I originally wanted to be a warrant officer. I've liked helicopters since I was a kid. But I ended up doing this and liked it enough to just stick with it. Keep your ear to the ground, and ask your superiors now and then about helping you get there.
    >>7965791
    Not a big percentage. While it's obviously a bonus when a woman is deciding whether or not to say yes or not (just like a nice house, good looks, rich parents, etc), I can't really say that most women would let the benefits program be the deciding factor in whether or not to marry a guy. But I'm no expert on women.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)12:00 No.7965872
    What kind of training does a regular recruit go through? I mean what do you teach them, what do you make them do, what is a typical day like?
    Also how much emphasis is placed on hand to hand combat?
    >> The Fi$tpump i$ awe$omene$$ !COREA.Lz9U 09/30/11(Fri)12:16 No.7965921
    How can I give myself some self discipline?
    As drill sergeant you sure know about such stuff.
    A real advice; not things like 'man up fag'.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)12:17 No.7965943
    My parents and friends say I'm being too hard on myself. I do sports/academic tournaments for school, and whenever I get second or third place, I toss whatever trophy I get in the trash. In my opinion, mediocrity should NOT be celebrated. Getting second or third place is simply losing first or second.
    >> Anonymous 09/30/11(Fri)12:17 No.7965948
    How hard is boot camp op? Also, is the marine core boot camp harder? What about the navy? Overall, who has it the worst when going through it?



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