>>7930124

whats your degree?
where do you live(roughly)?
how long have you been looking?
how many applications are you doing a week?
Have you worked on your resume properly and do you write cover letters properly?

>>7930124
Going through the same thing, anon. Ask around, though, many people have been looking for jobs for over a year and still unsuccessful. These days, unemployment says more about the economy than about the individual.

These days, finding a job is hard as hell, so if it's stressing you out, OP, take a break... a month, 2 months, until you can do it again until you can apply for jobs without it depressing you.

>>7930168
>whats your degree?
BA in media. Not that it matters, it's the situation that does.
>where do you live(roughly)?
South East UK. It's a shit hole and I have no money to move anywhere better or nearer London where the big bucks are.
>how long have you been looking?
Since I finished last year
>how many applications are you doing a week?
The amount of applications isn't the problem here, it's that when I do get an interview I more or less fuck it up
>Have you worked on your resume properly and do you write cover letters properly?
It's as good as I can get it. Problem is this recruitment agency has a real slapdash method of CV writing. When I first went there I had my own CV (it was shit but half decent for what it was) and they decided I should chop it up, describe everything so simply it looks babyish, take some of my grades out and class them elsewhere on the CV as "skills and abilities". That's what they consider a "high standard". I went away and made a better one for applying for stuff at home.

Besides, the interview I got the other day was based around electronic applications rather than Cover letters

What an entitled prick you are. And not just a prick, but a dumb ass too. Why the hell wouldn't you take a temporary job that is beneath you while you seek out more gainful employment? As it is, almost nobody is hiring the jobless right now. Boo hoo, you can't get the job you want? Well then take one you don't want and kick ass at it anyway. Show your future employers that you aren't going to throw a hissy fit (even though you clearly are) just because you don't get what you want. Do your job diligently and point out that you will do any job necessary with the utmost professionalism, and if you are willing to bust your ass scrubbing toilets, just imagine how motivated you'll be in a position or field that inspires you.

But yeah, just keep sitting around on 4chan. That'll be way more helpful and productive in the long run, you fucking faggot.

>>7930187
Problem is I can't. Because the Government is supposidly really getting pissed off about kids staying on the dole, they've got these recruitment agencies set up to force you to go look for a job. Taking a month out if out of the question because these chumps want me to go in every week to say if I've done a bazillion job applications or otherwise preach to me about cutting my own job seekers off. As much as I don't want to sit around to be given chav money, it's something I have to do right now, but what the recruitment agency is not making it any easier

>>7930203
Well in that case just applying and while you do, search up internet tips for interviews. In general, though, you're meant to do more talking than the interviewer while asking them questions about themselves.
Meh.

>Herp derp I gots a degree--poor jobs are beneath me!!
>nobody is hiring me!!!!
>WTF stupid job placement assholes

Did it ever, for one fucking moment, cross your thick limey skull that maybe they're sending you to jobs that they think you could actually get? We're in a global fucking recession you idiot. There are shit tons of people without jobs. And that meand they have no money, even though they need it. What happens is that more qualifies people start taking less reputable jobs, and employers are aware they can get a bargain on a more qualified employee.

Take what you can get, keep looking for better jobs. Most companies are shying away from hiring the unemployed anyway, so having a job at present is in itself going to assist your resume, even if you are not particularly interested in your job.

>>7930216
Well yes, I had a lot to say to the interviewer so it's not that I didn't have anything to say but maybe it's that I wasn't saying it the right way.

>>7930218
>implying I would ever dirty my hands with lowly jobs


gb2/mcds/ faggot

>>7930221
Employers are just like any other person. They are influenced by the charm of an interviewee, various biases, and the fact that about 100 other people were interviewed for that same position.
If you charm the pants off an employer, he is much more likely to hire you.
Be charming, sociable, and professional. Try to build rapport if possible.

>>7930190

cool thanks for clarifying

So itt sounds like yo need to work on your interview skills the most.

Also with your CV, the trick is to keep the front page clean and simple, have everything important featured once on it, then have references back to the following pages. It can be a large CV but you don't want something important, being on the second page, because the chances are the wont fucking look that far.

>>7930229
>mfw you're an unemployed welfare faggot
>mfw i'm an account executive at a market research company
>mfw i took a position as a recruiter six months ago and worked my way up
>mfw i'm giving you legitimate advice that will both assist in your search for a reputable job AND turn you into a real live man and adult

>mfw you don't believe me, but i don't care whether a Brit welfare twinky believes me either way

>>7930257
With the CV I was always told (and this is from other sources not just the recruitment people) that it should stay one page at the most because employers are less likely to bother flipping to page 2. So I have a decent little profile description, some things I'm good at, whatever educational degrees I have and so on. All clean, trimmed up and fit onto a single page.

>>7930190

First off you shouldn't be putting grades onto a resume. Describe practical experience.

You're going through a temp agency. That doesn't mean you have to stop looking on your own. You should have a resume/cover letter tailored to each specific job. That doesn't mean switching out the position you're applying for. That means rewriting the whole fucker from scratch and presenting your life in a way that's going to garner attention from that particular hr manager.

During interviews don't be the super creepy big grin guy. Be calm, relaxed and genuinely friendly.

We'd need to know more about the questions you're asked during the specific interviews, so we can provide feedback.

>>7930274
My guess is that since he just left college he probably has close to zero in terms of applicable experience. He lists his grades because that's really all he has to validate his CV.

>>7930273


That's also fine, the same principle still applies. However if i felt i was missing something out i would add more on another page, but that's just personal preference.

Like you say everything important should be on one page. Laid out simply, like the guy above said, don't do grades on the CV at all. If your college gave you a grade list or certificate or whatever you can add that in separately if you feel like.

>>7930274
Okay sure. Okay for example a media based CV I would need to have those grades (by grades I mean what I got during college; BA, HND, etc). I mean as I've mentioned in >>7930273 I've kept it clean and simple.

So questions wise I got asked things such as what prior experience I have (not much but we've all got to start somewhere right?), what colleages thought of me as a person, was I a doer or a leader (which in the case of my education was a blend of both), etc. With all honesty I answered to the best of my ability but I answered them without coming across as boring or with nothing show for myself. I'm quite confident I answered them the "right" way

>>7930309

College is nothing but experience. Milk the fucker for all its worth. You've obviously had to work on projects (probably in a group setting!), take up leadership roles, meet strict deadlines, work under stress, etc.

Yeah everyone has to start from somewhere, but don't make it sound like you've just crawled out of the basement for the first time in your life.

The point has been made already i'm sure, that in your country, with this economy, IT really is the employers market, don't get to down, its probably not so much a reflection on you as it is the state of affairs. Why are you willing to go do a "shittier" job as you say in the mean time? It will get you cash, and you can at least say you've been keeping yourself busy in future interviews, IF an employer can see your trying and still doing it tough you get sympathy points in this kind of market.
Also you probably need to step up the amount of applications your doing, it really is a numbers game in this sort of situation when you have no experience. Don't just do the minimum shit as required by welfare.

Ever consider networking, OP?

>>7930333
Thanks for the advice. But according to them there IS a limit to the shitty jobs; such as a job where you get paid the bare minimum but you're not doing over 20 hours for example.

Yeah I know I sound like I'm whining...

Besides I'm redoing my CV right now to see if I can improve it. So for example last week I handed out about 20-25 bare minimum last week. At least one wrote back to say there's nothing available (BMW)

>>7930364
>>7930364

good luck with it then, one final tip.

It helps in interviews as well if your not obsessed with getting everything right or coming across a certain way, maybe be a little self deprecating or have a joke. But don't look like a suck hole. Sometimes just being likeable(Even if your faking it) will be enough to get them to take a second look.

Dba and business intelligence analyst for IBM with nothing but a shitty degree in music here. I'm usually picked to screen applicants and give hiring managers my feedback on "soft skills"

Want some actually good tips and advice on /adv/?

>>7930397
I wouldn't mind a few tips

>>7930397
First, dress up. Iron your shit and tuck it in. Don't look edgy or over fashionable. Go for a more conservative look, not a hipster with a skinny tie and stripes-on-plaid look. Shine your shoes. Wash your face, comb your hair, don't be sweaty, and have good breath.

I mean, you want these people to want to work with you.

>>7930422
Bring copies of your resume, in a nice folder. Chances are nobody wants it, BUT, if you somehow dazzle them enough to go talk to an exec (like what happened to me), you look prepared. You look shit-together.

Everybody uses internet and soft copies of resumes these days, but nobodys gonna surf the web during an interview. So a hard copy just in case is a good thing.

Plus, the folder. More on the folder later.

>>7930446
>>7930422
All good stuff.

>>7930446
Research your potential employer. This IS 4chan, right? Well get their dox. How long have they done what they've done? Have they merged? What are their flagship products and emerging technologies?

Think long and hard on these things, after researching. Conversate on them during the interview. " I think I'd be a good fit because I studied {x} and your primary product, namedrop-brand, is centered around that."

>>7930469
Well, see this is stuff I would have not considered before now because... well it was a job for a DIY store. I should have researched better but it didn't happen. And I'm aware of that now.

>>7930469
Sit up. Speak up. Be confident. Don't end your sentences with "....so..." - end them with a period.

(What is my experience with widgetry? Well I majored in media but I monored in thingymabob which has a significant focus on widgetry. My work study actually required me to tutor freshmen on widgetry 101. And I co-edited a school newsletter The Widgetry Gazzette .... so ... "

Followed by a shrug and a desperate chuckle.

Don't do that. End your sentences with a period. You'd be amazed how many people do that.

Oh, and don't slouch.

>>7930489
I'm really appreciating these tips.
yeesh, so many different requirements, It's a wonder so many poeple manage to get jobs

>>7930489
When they ask you something and you don't know the answer ... And this WILL happen ... Try to talk about it. Say you don't know. But then say, "so what is the right answer to that question?"

Then try to segue that into an actual conversation about the topic. It shows your eagerness to learn. It provides you with an opportunity to CHAT with them, which WILL set you apart. And if you don't get the job well at least you got a free lesson out of it.

But for chrissake if you don't know the answer, don't bullshit your way through. These people are experts. And they don't want to hire some young buck who's full of shit.

You can sort of get away with saying "I'm really not 100% sure about this, but I THINK that bla bla bla..."

Worst case, if there's no way to ask, "what's the right answer" and talk about your mutual field of interest ... at least be honest and say "I don't know"

>>7930556
"Ok well anon those are our questions, do you have any questions for us?"

Yes god dammit. Yes, you do lol. You bet your ass you better have questions. Not having questions speaks to your character. It makes you look unprepared, or like you're someone who will just float through tasks.

Besides, you need to interview them, too.

Why are they hiring? Are you replacing someone? Was that person fired or did they quit? If so, what are their expectations for stepping into the existing position? Us this a new position? Why was it created? What is the organizations expectations for the new position?

It's a shitty economy, but that allows some people to succeed? How have they dealt with the shitty economy?

What are their long term plans for working in your field of interest?

How do they approach new technologies and business process innovations? Are they early or late adopters?

Earlier they probably asked you if you prefer to work alone or with a team. Will you primarily work alone or with a team? What is their approach toward meetings, and getting staff the resources they need?

Protip ... All these very good questions afford you an opportunity to conversate with them, which as I mentioned earlier will set you apart.

>>7930619
Ok anon well it was great meeting you, and well be in touch.

Then they give you business cards. Maybe forms or pamphlets.

Remember the folder? Put it in the folder.
Rather than all crumpled up and ball sweaty and easily loseable in your pocket.

Looking for a job, is a job in and of itself. Keeping this shit in a folder allows you to organize it when you get home.

Good luck man.

>>7930651
Thanks. I've got all that noted down now. Gonna study like the fist of the north star

There's some damn good advice in this thread so I'm bumping it.