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    70 KB Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:24 No.7896094  
    I know so many girls with dads who cheated on their moms and then left them. These dads make no effort to love/care for their children, and just don't give the slightest bit of a damn what happens to them.

    Why do some men do this?

    Only once in my entire existence have I seen a mother leave her family, and she did that when the kids were fully grown up. However, I have met countless girls (at least 20) whose fathers just abandoned them.

    Men of /adv/ what is your reasoning?

    If I were a man, I would still do whatever it takes to be there for my kids.

    inb4: that stupid picture which makes fun of single moms. It does not say a single thing explaining why a man would just ABANDON his kids.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:27 No.7896120
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    >I know so many girls with dads who cheated on their moms and then left them. These dads make no effort to love/care for their children, and just don't give the slightest bit of a damn what happens to them. Why do some men do this?

    It shouldn't be about WHY men do this. It should be about WHY women spread their legs for such shitty partners? If women were better at selecting partners they wouldn't put their kids in a bind.

    Pic related. I wish I could raise a family.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:29 No.7896143
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    >>7896120
    This is true, but a woman doesn't always get married knowing that this is going to happen.
    If you date someone for like 2 years, and get to know them, you can't really predict that he is just going to abandon you and your future kids 10 years down the road
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:30 No.7896146
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    >Fuck alpha males that want to spread their seed everywhere
    >Women wonder why the alpha that turned them on so much left when they weren't wanting to raise kids in the first place
    >Tries to dump off her kids on a beta male

    Why do women try to pass off the blame of their stupid choices?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:30 No.7896149
    Hear hear. I'm NEVER leaving my family.

    Unless they get in the way of my career.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:31 No.7896160
    >>7896143
    How to tell if a man wants to have kids

    >"I want to have kids"-Man that wants to have kids. However this only works if you didn't goad them into it.
    >Is a good babysitter or jumps at the oppurtunity to look after kids
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:34 No.7896196
    >>7896146
    These men are neither alpha nor beta.
    I should have inb4'ed the whole alpha beta nonsense.
    Here are some examples:
    >a guy who worked in a cell phone company who married his high school sweetheart after 5 years together, then had a kid later
    >A man who worked as a professor and was the mother's "life partner"
    >A man who owned a hair salon
    > A man who married that "hard to get" girl...HE was the beta. He felt 'trapped" in marriage and cheated
    >>7896149
    >Unless they get in the way of my career.

    Oh yeah, that's good parenting right there. Money is more important then your children. 1/10
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:35 No.7896198
    Do you love children, /adv/? </notOP>
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:36 No.7896218
    Actually an overwhelming amount of divorces are filed by wives, not husbands. 70-90%.

    It is a lot more common that a woman will leave a marriage. Men are more likely to stay in a failing relationship.

    What you will find is that a woman has left the husband, and through the court system has maintained the dominant caregiving role and thus takes the kids.

    Are you still sure your friends' fathers really left them?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:36 No.7896221
    >>7896160
    This is true. Before I have kids, I am taking my future fiance/ husband to babysit and watch over other people's kids with me. If he doesn't want kids or something, I will either break up with him or have a marriage without any kids, depending on how my life plays out
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:37 No.7896227
    My dad said if he could do it all over, he would not have had kids. But at least he stuck around and raised us. Good father too.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:38 No.7896232
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    Women are terrible parents anyway.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:39 No.7896236
    Women have COMPLETE control over when they have kids and the guy has absolutely no say. It's easy as fuck for a girl to get knocked up even if the guy thinks he's safe. Women can lie about being on the pill or fish out used condoms. So why do you think a man would want to stick around and take care of kids that he never intended on having?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:39 No.7896239
    >>7896218
    Probably because they catch their husband cheating? Cheating is still a form of abandonment.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:40 No.7896244
    >>7896218
    What you don't realize is that a good portion of that 70-90% occur this way:

    >father leaves the family with no explanation
    Mother initiates the divorce as a response

    >father cheats on his wife
    Mother tries working it out many times
    Father refuses to cooperate
    Mother initiates the divorce

    >Father feels trapped in marriage
    Father complains endlessly
    Father leaves
    Mother initiates divorce


    And any way, no matter who gets child support, the father should STILL be willing to make a connection with his kids, not blow them off in order to prove a point in a power struggle.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:40 No.7896252
    Butthurt single mom detected.

    Shouldn't have gotten fat.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:41 No.7896264
    >>7896236
    Women have 11 forms of birth control as well.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:42 No.7896271
    >>7896232
    >44.5 % of fathers don't pay support
    Oh he must be such a good person! God forbid you support your kids!
    >children from fatherless homes have more issues than children from a home with both a father an mother
    No shit sherlock, so why would a father THINK to abandon his kids?

    THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHY A FATHER WOULD BLOW OFF HIS KIDS, IT JUST EXPLAINS THE EMOTIONAL CONSEQUENCES KIDS SUFFER.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:42 No.7896272
    >>7896094
    This is because the men who cheat have enough honesty and self awareness to see that the family is broken, so they leave.

    I've known DOZENS of wives who cheated on their husbands, but most of them just hang around smirking in an attempt to squeeze out everything they can get from their husbands
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:44 No.7896283
    >>7896239

    You're absolutely right, that doesn't change the fact that men are extremely rarely the first to leave a relationship. In just as many cases, the woman could be cheating too.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:45 No.7896292
    >>7896272
    > enough honesty and self awareness to see that the family is broken, so they leave.

    Oh yeah, but they don't have enough honesty and self awareness to take care of their kids. Yeah, the kids don't deserve anything, it's all their fault, stupid children.

    >>7896272
    My wife cheated on me, so I am not going to love our kids anymore. That's logic right there.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:46 No.7896302
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    ITT Delicious femtears
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:46 No.7896307
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    I am not asking whose fault it is in a broken marriage.
    I am asking why SO MANY MEN respond to broken marriages by ABANDONING their kids.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:47 No.7896308
    >>7896292
    >every father that "abandons" his family will suddenly stop loving his children
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:47 No.7896310
    >>7896094

    Women and men are biologically different, and men just tend not to care as much about their kids as women do.

    Not sayin its right for them to do it, but that's just how it is
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:48 No.7896324
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    Well now I know why people are so vehemently against gay marriage. They couldn't stand the humiliation of the queers doing it better.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:48 No.7896328
    I can explain it, but my answer would be dismissed by ignorant people as "evopsych bullshit."
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:49 No.7896339
    The funniest thing in this thread is that a woman started a thread like this with an image by Xration.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:49 No.7896347
    >>7896307
    Because those children are most likely the result of adultery anyway.

    Just be thankful the father doesn't bash their heads open in a primeval attempt to get rid of such filthy foreign genes in his life.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:51 No.7896364
    >>7896328
    It's ok, I won't dismiss it
    >>7896310
    I am pretty sure this is true, but I have been lucky enough to have a father who has basically given up his life to support my siblings and I. I am shocked when I hear the complete nonchalance many men have for their kids.
    I have met good fathers, too.
    >>7896308
    If you love your kids, you wouldn't abandon them unless being with them is a threat (hypothetical example: if you are in the mafia and they are tracking you down and will kill your family if you don't run away)
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:52 No.7896375
    >>7896347
    I am talking about the father's OWN personal children. Kids that look JUST LIKE HIM.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:54 No.7896393
    Because the nuclear family unit is an obsolete christian falsehood.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:55 No.7896401
    So what, the kid have 1/3 of chance of not being his anyway...
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:55 No.7896402
    >>7896307
    How many men do you actually think simply change their minds and decide that they don't want kids after they have them? Seriously. See >>7896236
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:55 No.7896413
    >>7896393
    Oh yeah, and a family where a father doesn't want anything to do with his kids and has no love for them is superior, no?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:55 No.7896417
    >>7896413
    Mother nature seems to think so.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:56 No.7896426
    >>7896364
    You are still saying that abandoning is the same as stopping loving them.

    When life gets tough in the family for the man, some men can sacrifice themselves for their offspring (if they even are theirs), some men can't. And if the children aren't his (meaning the wife cheated) I'd imagine it's more likely for the man to suffer alot and "abandon" or leave the family.

    You really ought to take in account the mans situation too. Do you even know anything of those men you know who left their families? Are you sure you know everything from their situations?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:57 No.7896431
    >>7896402
    Women are also a shitty judge of character. I can within an hour tell if a woman would be a good girlfriend or potential marriage material or just a fuck stick.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:57 No.7896432
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    So OP, how much child support have you been screwed out of this year?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/11(Sat)19:57 No.7896433
    >>7896402
    >>7896236
    I don't understand. Even if the kid was an accident, there is no justification for NOT LOVING the kid.
    >>7896401
    > the kid have 1/3
    >THE KID HAVE
    >KID HAVE



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