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>>6807887 (OP)

Just shut up and deal with it, darling.

Pic related.

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can we not

like there's a time and place for discussion on how society doesn't treat men as sexual objects in the same way they do women

but this is 4chan and no one wants to have a discussion we want pictures.

Pictures of men in skimpy cosplay.

(not skimpy, but this is a bunch of dudes in Napoleonic costume- the hair is accurate, I swear.)

>>6807905
You just gotta love 18th Century Field Dress Uniforms.

shut up and go lift fatty

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>>6807918
Hell yeah.

Historical Reenactment is more of a /tg/ thing for some reason but it's basically hardcore cosplay. There's Reenactors who bitch about people using sewing machines or having modern underpants under their uniforms. They're fucking insane.

>>6807926
To quote ARRSE: "First World War reenactors know more about the British army of 1914 than the guys who were there"

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>>6807949
They're all nutters, but impressive, productive nutters. /cgl/ could learn a bit from them.

Only a bit, too much and you're sitting in your room alone muttering about accurate stitches and breathing in mercury as you shape your tiny hats.

>>6807926
It's crazy (but even kinda admirable) that not only are these people dideciated to making accurate outfits but even go beyond and use historically accurate means to do so

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>>6807984
Unfortunately, that boner for realism also means a lot of them are really fucking sexist (even for /tg/ and /cgl/)- if you check out reenactment communities, more than a few only have women as cavalry because the women own the horses.

I have a friend who was shut out from the local group because she didn't want to be a camp follower.

And (you probably know this, but) reenactors don't just 'go to a con', there's usually a big meet that reenacts everything around the combat too- so all you get to do that weekend is play fuckin' tent-house instead of having fun 'shooting' people and being a trooper, etc. Fun stuff.

So yeah, she doesn't do reenactment at all anymore. :(

It's just down to who you hang out with, OP.

If I walked around with my shirt off and had nice lean muscles the girls would really like it but I'd have '25 YEAR OLD POWERLIFTER' types giving me shit about carbs and HEY BRO HOW MUCH CAN YOU PRESS I BET YOU CAN'T DO SERVIOCARDIOBRO I'M A LIFTER I LIFT BRO DO YOU KNOW KUNG FU BRO I DO BOXING YOUR KUNG FU KARATE SHIT AINT GONNA WORK ON THE STREET BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO.

Similarly if a girl is wearing a revealing cosplay her fellow girls will be like 'omg what a fatty-chan why is she acting like a slut jesus what an attention seeker nobody likes her anyway look at those stretchmarks her legs are totally out of proportion bitch bitch bitch bitch'. While the guys will just be like 'YEAH I CAN SEE CLEAVAGE I LOVE CONS BRO'.

Unless you're either really fat or really skinny, in which case you just get shafted by everyone and you never catch a break no matter which sex you are.

It's pretty much equal.

Because women have a problem with girls in skimpy outfits, you can see this when they point out skimpy characters in vidya and say that it's offensive, and get mad at other women for wearing them because it "oppresses" women.

The problem with slut-shaming lies with women.

You may notice that when men are whores, other men tend to support them, when women do it other women try to insult them and outcast them.

I'm just saying.

In short, men are better than women.

>>6808462
Keys and locks, it takes skills for a man to fuck several women so he deserves praise for it.

And no it's not a double standard, virgin men are the equivalent of female slut and they get treated like shit all the same.

> How come with these accusations we don't see men taking even a 4th of that heat when they do the same thing.

Because, much of the critique aimed at females wearing revealing clothes in cosplay comes from the fact that they frustratingly often don't cosplay those characters because they like them or the source material they come from. Instead, they cosplay them for att-- I mean, because they like the character design / costume / that incredibly interesting material it's made off / whatever.

When men cosplay for att-- due to liking the costume design instead of liking the source, other men have no reason to criticize them because:
a) no one listens to their critique (the guys don't usually cosplay because they want attention from other guys);
b) they have often good reason not to criticize, for they would face ridicule from the more dominant male;
c) they don't want to criticize, in case they would ever do the same thing (and, let's face it, deep down it's almost always this, since even the males who like the characters they cosplaying and know them are ultimately only cosplaying for pussy).

So, since there's little next to none critique that matters from men, the ones who have to criticize attention whoring men are women.

But, as you say, these men are not criticized very much.

Therefore, you can conclude that women are much more liberal and tolerant and superior, and they don't care about such petty things as knowing the character as long as the guy looks good.

>>6808481
That just means there's two double standards, actually.

>>6808481

Yeah I think women have a glossy view of men. It's true that there is generally less 'drama' but there is a lot more bullying and guys can be very bitchy.

>Guy saves girl from attacker

What a hero! A real superman! He's a real man, we need more people like him!

>Girl saves guy from attacker

What a pussy! Why couldn't he fight his own battles? Jesus that's embarrassing. That girl could have gotten hurt, what a piece of shit - he shouldn't drag others into his own drama.

>>6808487
>TL;DR
So only Fedora wearing neckbeards are childish enough to care about such worthless things like knowing the character you're cosplaying.

Women aren't immature like that => they don't care about it & appreciate a good looking guy in a costume.

>>6808500
>Women aren't immature like that => they don't care about it & appreciate a good looking guy in a costume.

Doesn't this kind of mentality belong on the catwalk instead of at a convention?

I thought I was going to a convention to be around other fans of anime and related media, not simply a place where 'You can wear what you want and people won't judge you'.

Part of the fun of cons is finding someone who cosplays a character you like and talking to them about said series.

I think someone who dresses up but doesn't know jack shit about the character or series is a textbook dictionary-approved poseur.

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>>6808511
>I thought I was going to a convention to be around other fans of anime and related media, not simply a place where 'You can wear what you want and people won't judge you'.

Best lol I had all day. You are so new and obviously never been to a convention.

Conventions are all about having fun and socializing; basically the costumes are as much important there as during a Halloween party. You have a nice costume? Cool, that might be an interesting conversation opener. But no one other than fat Aspies care about why you're cosplaying it, and even if they would, they don't care right now since they went to the convention for one reason => socializing.

>>6808534
Eh, depends on the con I guess. Some cons are more cosplay-centric than others, which are more rave cons.

>>6808534
>You are so new and obviously never been to a convention.

I was going to conventions before there was such a thing as Eva. Think about that for a second.

I think you're just holding your poser standards as the norm when you are in fact, doing it wrong.

>>6807887 (OP)
Men own up to wearing revealing outfits for attention and because they enjoy flaunting their sexuality openly with no shame.
Women enjoy being sexy and the centre of attention, but won't admit to it for fear of coming off as self-absorbed and a bitch/slut. We bash women because they won't admit they do it for attention, and they enjoy being slutty. This all ties in with the whole idea that if men sleep with many women, they are a boss, but if a woman sleeps with many men, she is a whore.
Remember kids, a key that can open many locks is a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock

>>6808633

But you know, at the end of the day, a master key is still just a two inch tool.

>>6808635
Touché.
My point still stands

>>6808534
Then go socialize at a bar. Cons are all about meeting guests, getting exclusive merchandise and industry panels.

Why pay for a god damn badge when all you do is stand around and talk.

I bet ALA is your favorite con

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>>6807887 (OP)
Guh...

A man's chest does not have the same inherent value a woman's does. Showing it off does not matter as much.

If a woman has nice breasts and she wants to show them off, it's the same thing as a man who has a nice chest showing his off. It's not a matter of cosplay, though. You're dealing with society at large, and public mortals type shit. Don't attack weeaboos for something they have no control over.

Additionally, any guy who makes a point to show up at a con just to take off his shirt and get girls to fawn over him is seen as a douchebag, much in the way that sexy cosplaying girls who walk around in their underwear are seen as attention whores.

However, when it comes to shirtless male characters, guys who cosplay them do not have to go out of their way to make a 'sexy' version, in most cases. If they do alter the costume or design in some way to show off their body, then see the above point. Douche bags. Most don't like them.

You simply don't see a lot of men at every con who take female characters, make a genderbent or "GUY!<name>" version that is pretty much just a wig and a pair of underwear. Women, however, do this often enough for it to be considered a common occurrence. This is also seen as lazy, in poor taste, and general acts as a great way to advertise you're not a great or creative person who generally needs attention to feel special.

>>6808534
That's not actually true.. In fact, most weeaboos care too much about the costume accuracy, or the dedication the person has to the fandom they are representing. See any comments along the lines of "She's probably never even played/watched that game/show!"

Cons are not social clubs where hip 20-somethings gather to be cool and pick up chicks. That's what wanna-be alpha faggots want you to believe. They want you to think that their enormous, fat, sack-of-shit selves are picking up hot honeys left and right because they spend all their time talking at girls they met in line at the Naruto panel.

In reality, the sort of people getting the most action at cons are usually the people who you absolutely do not want to fuck. 30-something spinsters, hairy metalheads, drug addled mall goths and rave kiddies.

>>6808889
>cons are all about meeting guests, getting exclusive merchandise and industry panels.
>CONS ARE ONLY WHAT I SAY THEY ARE
If you go to a con and don't mingle you're a fucking retard.

>>6808949
>If you go to a con and don't mingle you're a fucking retard.
I wouldn't go so far as saying that, that's just fucking stupid.
Everyone does their own thing at a con. You're a loner? Cool, that's fine, do your own shit and enjoy yourself. You're a social butterfly? Great! Go meet people!

>>6808889
Most cons, not even just anime cons, are social gatherings. They aren't hookup parties, but they are certainly social. You are supposed to get a ton of fans together to get them talking to each other about all those cool things they like so they'll make friends and want to come and gather again next year.

If you remove the social aspect all together, as in, you go by yourself, only go to panels by yourself, go shopping by yourself, and wait in line to meet a guest.. by yourself.. Well, why the fuck didn't you just stay home and order your shit, read article, and watch interview videos online instead of spending a few hundred dollars to do all that shit at a con like a retard?

It's cool if you are kind of anti-social and don't really like talking to strangers, but the other people who attend are as much of an attraction as any guest or exclusive merch.

>>6808949
You can socialize anywhere. Meet people from around the world? Shit just go to the damn mall or a bar or even a hotel lobby. You shouldn't be paying money for badge and hotel JUST to socialize. Look at SDCC, Wondercon and PAX who are just selling out like mad. They have amazing events but people still socialize.

>>6808974
Do you have some sort of mental deficiency that makes it impossible for you to understand that people can do more than one thing during an event?

>>6808912
You're just talking about the chest. There's still the dudes who wear speedos or loincloths

When women do this, other women bash them out of jealousy. However men can't help but drool.
When men do this, other men bash them out of jealously. However women can't help but drool.
Everyone is actually treated the same.

I only ever hear about women bitching about how women are the ones getting hurt.

The only time I see guys complain are white knight nice guys with fedoras or trans people who aren't really guys or people.

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>>6808983
Still douche bags. Simple as that.

Unless we're talking swimming anime, or some sort of specific character like Franky, it's usually seen as a really douchey thing to just walk around mostly naked for no reason other than to show off your body because you think being at a con makes it okay to be a vain attention whore without even the pretense of dressing up as a cartoon character.

>>6808999
If you can pull it off, why not? Takes a lot more courage to do daring shit rather then hiding behind the safety of a full costume. Sure they'll be judged differently but everyone cosplays for different reasons. I don't consider bare skin to be a sin.

>>6809006
There's nothing wrong with it, but it's a weird sort of narcissism to assume that anyone cares about your body just because it's a con and people have cameras. At least with a costume, you can belong to a series, to a group or a photoshoot. Even if wearing a speedo and styling a simple wig doesn't require so much effort, at least you can act as an accessory, as a part of a larger collaboration between you and other cosplayers.

Otherwise, you're just that weird guy who thinks his shit is worth showing off. You may as well be one of the insufferable cunts who think the con is a great place to break out all your bondage gear and have your ugly friend tote you around on a choke-chain.

>>6809027
Lol, it might be because not everyone thinks people care about their body enough to get all bent out of shape about it. It's natural for those people who are more confident with their bodies to strip without warning. In that case it has nothing to do with narcissism. Some people do it just for shock value, some do it for attention, some do it because that's how they walk around their house all day and don't see much of a difference. And most of which don't give two shits about other people's comfort zones, which I assume is why they are considered douche bags. It's unfair though to assume everyone is just an egotistical bastard with their egos shoved up their ass.

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because we're on the internet.
and cosplay is popular with females
and most of the females on the internet are middle class teenager 'feminist fat acceptance' types,

ergo, of course there's going to be a lot of endless arguments about wat would otherwise be fun dress up parties.

besides, your average bloke knows better than to bitch about how buff a guy looks because that'd make them look like a super insecure fatty fat faggot
women on the other hand...self-important bitchfest with no idea how they look by saying such things, thankyou eternal 21st century argument fuel feminism

tl;dr- the loud minority stirring up the masses, ruining errbody's fun

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>>6809027
>but it's a weird sort of narcissism to assume that anyone cares about your body just because it's a con
>weird sort of narcissism to assume
>to assume

And yet, that's exactly what you are doing. The human body is meant to be attactive. If you are assuming that people have a complex for wanting to share their natural beauty with the world then you should get out of the house and check your humanity.

Because feminists decided half-naked men aren't sexual and therefore can neither be objectified not criticised for sexualizing themselves.

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>>6809110
It's a weeaboo gathering. Not a life drawing class.
Take it up with the rest of society and the way people bring up their kids to feel naturally uncomfortable around nude or mostly nude strangers.

Once you get that sorted out, then we can talk about the natural beauty of the human form and how it should be shown off without provocation or reason.

>>6809120
What the hell does this have to do with the poster claiming douchbag narcissism? That was the poster's own assumption.Not all bodies are naturally beautiful; much of that comes from the symmetry involved amongst those "narcissist douchbags."

ooo so much butthurt in here

>>6809120
i dont know about you, but i dont want to see half naked people walking around.

Because women are the main source of slut shaming. They don't do it to men because they like looking at that stuff.

>>6808922
>most weeaboos
Yes, the male ones. /refuted

Because women actually have a chance at getting with them, so we're not bitter about it.

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>>6808462
You may notice that when men are whores, other men tend to support them

Nice.

>>6809192
Slut.

>>6809322
Because men have to earn their sexual attractiveness, so naturally, a man that had many sexual partners deserves respect from other men.

If you really believe that denying this is a legitimate rational thought, then you as crazy as the living jokes from Hjernevask, who said their theories were more legitimate than scientific experiments.

I recommend you watch it sometimes.

>>6809322
And the misandric bullshit begins.

>>6809329
oOoooo offensive

>>6809356
How about nobody encourages anybody to be a slut and we all just settle down like normal goddamn people?

>>6809369
She's just jelly she could never have you.:3

>>6809370
>How about I say something that ignores everything you said in your post?

You're asking men to stop respecting other men that they find worth respecting due to their accomplishments.

>>6809378
I'm asking men to stop encouraging immoral behaviour, especially when most of them bitch and whine about women being sluts at the same time. If you want monogamy you have to hold up your end of the deal. Anyway, this discussion is going way too far /r9k/-wards for this board, so I'm out.

>>6809380
>I'm asking men to stop encouraging immoral behaviour,
lel

Epik troll.

>>6809370
'Sluts' aren't normal people?
Way to be a slut shamer.

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I think the thread was better when it was derailing into reenactment pictures.

>>6808974
Y'know I think many robots lurk on this board who genuinely think that cons are their last chance of socializing.

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>>6808534
I can't tell you how annoying it is to go up to somebody and ask them about their costume and they have no idea what the fuck they're talking about, especially when it's a character I like.
I wanted to talk about this character since we both obviously like them, but wait- you don't actually know who it is.

>>6809505
I can see the fedora on your head from over here.

>>6809518
Project more

>>6809518
what does this have to do with being a neckbeard? cons are usually supposed to be about having fun with people who share the same interests as you. how are people supposed to be able to find friends if people are cosplaying things for the sheer fact of cosplaying something.

>>6809540
>cons are usually supposed to be about having fun with people who share the same interests as you.
That doesn't mean I have to play the same dumb video games he does.

>>6809552
Jnig, pls go

A lot of the time, if a woman wants to cosplay a female character she really likes from a game/comic/anime/typical nerdy story, it entails putting on something really skimpy. It's impossible to just be fan and want to recreate something you love. If you put together an accurate cosplay of someone like Yoko or Power Girl, for instance, everyone just assumes you're doing it "for the attention." No WAY someone could just like that character, RIGHT? It's such horseshit.

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>>6809577
> It's impossible to just be fan and want to recreate something you love.
No, it's just seemingly impossible for women to like characters that don't wear skimpy outfits.

Case in point:
Dannerys "MUHDRAGONS" Shyteborn from Game of Throws is by far the most cosplayed chick from the show, despite the fact she's the worst female major character in it bar Catelyn (who is an old hag, no skimpy costume there) and the characters that were added by the >lol writers themselves. She's the female equivalent of Darkstar <spoiler>of the night!</spoiler>, except it's not quite as funny, since she's.... you know... the majorest character who's gonna get the throne.

She wears the most revealing costumes of all.

>>6807905
>>6807926
>>6807965
>>6808064
This.

Historical re-enactment is basically /cgl/ for men. And it's awesome. There's very little attention whoring. Nobody goes there to "hook up" or to do drugs etc. It's just about the craft.

Whereas what do femanons do? They go to cons to dress up as Yoko, Panty or Powergirl, meet up with guys, fuck, score drugs etc. This is why we mock them.

This is why women are not respected and never will be.

>>6809681
Daenerys is awful isn't she?

It's a testament to female narcissism how much they love Daenerys. Even the actress who plays her is annoying as fuck.

Why do you women love her so much? She's just... Shit. There are so many characters in those books: Stannis, Tyrion, Jaime etc... All with interesting arcs.

But you sluts love Dany. Because you love the idea of being slutty but also being "powerful". Also, Dany treated Jorah like a bitch.

>>6809701
>>6809681
Devil's advocate here:

Daenerys is NOT my favorite whatsoever. I'm waaaaay more of a Tyrion sort of girl. He is the best. But if I were to cosplay from the show... I have the same height and build as TV Dany, and similar facial features. Do you REALLY think it'd be better if I were to try and cosplay Tyrion because he's a better character? Or would it make more sense to cosplay the one who looks vaguely like me and not look as stupid? Seems like an obvious choice to me: Dany or not cosplaying ASOIAF.

>>6809692
Historical Re-enactment

- Based on creating accurate armor and props
- No skimpy outfits or shirtless costumes
- Comitted to realism in both the accuracy of the final product along with the methods used
- Armor and weapons are battle ready
- No on involved is complaining about sexisim or cosplay=consent or any other stupid STW BS
- No Facebook whoring
- Reputation is earned through skill of your craft instead of your sex appeal

It's a perfect world for us costumers

>>6809701
>Daenerys is awful isn't she?
She is shit because she's is a goddamn Mary Sue.

It's a character a female fan of the show would write to project herself into the story:

After Book 1:
>Dany commits sari, lucks into dragons.
After Book 2:
>Dany has kept a few cripples and old folks alive for a bit.
(*kills the leadership of a foreign town for the lulz in the series.)
After Book 3:
>Dany sitting eating dates with eunuchs after killing a few more leaderships.
After Book 4:
>Dany sitting eating dates with eunuchs.
After Book 5:
>Dany menstruating, riding a dragon like a little girl's fantasy after running from that whole hard 'being a ruler' thing

She is completely defined by being someone else's sister (Viserys who went through hardships to keep her alive and turned insane), wife (got her "khalasar" from Drogo), or mother ("THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS!!" -> now switch to the scene she's being fucked from behind by Drogo in your head for comic effect) and whenever she makes a retarded decision (most of the time) she never, ever pays for it. Compare that to Jon Snow or Robb Stark, who were both roughly her age. Not that they're the best characters ever, but at least they get consequences for their choices, as you'll soon find out (god I can't wait for that...).

>>6809743
Most of the male fans look like Podrick Paynes or Varys-i with hair and scepter. That doesn't mean they're going to cosplay either of them...

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>>6809759
I just posted about the sexism issues in reenactment god damn come on seriously?

Reenactment also has the abyssal spawn of /tg/ and /cgl/'s worst aspects- grognards who bitch and moan more than either one ever could about MY VERISIMILITUDE when you're a fucking adult dressing up to go play soldier.

Yeah, I think the costuming is cool, but a ton of the people are fucking awful, just like every other historical-boner and/or creative thing.

It's just as bad as every other nerd hobby- don't get full of yourself.

>>6809577
yo also this is true and if you change the costume to be a little more reasonable you get the VERISIMILITUDEs and probably 'lolfat's.

>>6809811
I just don't want femanons in our hobbies.

>>6809701
>Stannis

mah nigga.

Stannis is hilarious in the books. Why doesn't he have more fangirls?

>>6809849
Tough shit, nothing you can do about it. Except quietly weep into your fedora, I guess.

>>6809849
omg! eva was right! this thread is /r9k/!! please delete it before someone reads posts in this

>>6809852
Because the show made him shit and showplebeians don't know any better.

>>6809849
>Doesn't want females in the hobby

There's hot girls in skimpy outfits walking around. You seriously want to go back to the days where cons were sasuage fests with the occasional fat chick?

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>>6809849
And thus, the grognard will die alone, without a mate.

Also suck it, women have been fighting in your wars forever.

>>6809862
They don't sleep with us, they sleep with the men they've brought into the hobby alongside them.

You can't blame a man for rape given how agonizingly shitty that all is. Cosplayers parade around in softcore porn stuff, sleep with 10% of the guys, and then laugh about it. They need to be taught humility through rape.

>>6809853
Fedoras are for fags.

>>6809874
Maybe if you weren't fat, you'd get some.

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>>6809874
lol, grognard

cry alone into your rulebooks and dream of getting back at that kid in highschool who banged the chick you thought were cute

there's no way a chick could like nerdy shit, right?

>>6809874
Thank you for sharing the experience of your oppression with us. I understand that I, as a woman, need to check my privilege in this situation, but I hope I can go some way towards empathising with you so that I, even in my position of privilege, can work with such an oppressed party for the defence of his rights. No man in this day and age should have to go unfucked, it is blatant and institutional misandry. Maybe we should start a petition on Tumblr.

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>>6809874
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>>6809894
You should fuck him. With your strap-on.
Or me.

>>6809900
While I feel that such an empowering experience would be truly productive in his fight for equality, it is not my position to speak for an oppressed party.

>>6809852
>>6809857
The main problem is that the showrunners hate Stannis / haven't read the books past the one they're currently filming.

See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mWQMqaFm5X0#t=264s

Some people say that Dungeon isn't as bad, and that only Dragon is the cunt that fucks everything up, but I doubt it.

Stannis = main villain of the show. I'm expecting Danny-girl to win the throne and perhaps rule with Jon, because that would be appropriately retarded.

>>6809902
Well I'm a male, and you have my approval.

>>6809892
>there's no way a chick could like nerdy shit, right?

I didn't say that.

Just don't get why everything has to be about sex with cosplayers and female nerds as a whole.

>>6809869

Not that guy, but do you really think it's appropriate to put women in the front lines?

My concern is mostly out of worry for women's safety and wellbeing. Even at re-enactments it seems a bit too violent and masculine for most women.

>>6809904
Nah, the real reason is that Stannis simply isn't attractive enough to qualify for mass fangirl status.

>>6809915
Shouldn't that choice be down to the individual? Some women are well up for that kind of thing, some aren't. You should at least give them the option.

>>6809852
Also, about that fangirls part.

Even if his character was true to the books, I don't see why he'd have any fangirls fawning over him. His main sources of appeal are:
>being the best King that Westeros needs
>having the whole "father whose respect you always wanted to earn" aura around him
>social incompetence that makes Aspergers/Autists sympathize with him
In the show, the appeal mostly goes through to only people who read the book and perhaps people who can appreciate Stephen Dillane's stellar acting (best in the series right alongside Charles Dance but it's not as obvious because he has to deal with the shit the writers throw at him every now and then, like making Stannis beg for a pity fuck from Melly Sanders and so on).

For women, he mostly represents everything they hate:
>filthy patriarchy supporter (even though he's the most feminist character in the show -- gelds rapists; wants his sickly daughter to become the Queen should he fail; his most trusted advisor is a foreign woman)
>not handsome enough, old
>has the whole "father who caused my daddy issues" aura around him

Girls who actually read the books might be possibly more neutral towards him, but I can't blame them for hating show Stannis.

>>6809911
It isn't. When you cosplay (and not crossplay), the costume's gonna end up skimpy because the male creators don't into female anything besides MUST MAKE SURE IS SEXY

Also there's a p strong implication that the women are only in it for the D which is fuckin' laughable.

Go back to squatting around a fire wondering why women don't want to be around you

>>6809915
pfft women are already in combat, even frontline. If you took a moment to check the history and the current issues out you'd see that. A big part of it today involves female soldiers in the US not getting the medals they're entitled to because they're not ~technically~ a part of the groups they're attached to- and medals are a huge part of promotion.

Women are already frontline troops in a few countries, and like I previously mentioned, women have always been part of combat, officially or unofficially. They'd crossdress to sneak into combat as a regular soldier, for myriad reasons. They would serve as espionage (and not just the lol prostitute kind). They served as guerrillas and militants- and were fucking vicious as any men you can name. There is the problem that a lot of them aren't written about, or treated as mythology (cf Molly Pitcher), but they exist and did exist and will exist.

Trying to shut half of the species out because ~so violent~ and ~so masculine~ is stupid to the max. It'd be like shutting men out of all teaching of any subject because it's ~so peaceful~ and ~so feminine~. Set reasonable guidelines, and let them try. The ones who want in, will go in. The ones who won't, won't. I, personally, am a won't, but if you want to go be a grunt, go ahead.

>>6809924
>having the whole "father whose respect you always wanted to earn" aura around him

Are you seriously claiming that this isn't appealing to girls?

>social incompetence that makes Aspergers/Autists sympathize with him

lol'ed at this, it's kind of true.

>filthy patriarchy supporter (even though he's the most feminist character in the show -- gelds rapists; wants his sickly daughter to become the Queen should he fail; his most trusted advisor is a foreign woman)

I loved that scene with his daughter, I have to admit.

>has the whole "father who caused my daddy issues" aura around him

Again, I don't see why women wouldn't like this.

Nerd fangirldom has daddy issues oozing out of its very seams. You think the Yoko cosplays have nothing to do with that.

>>6809931
>pfft women are already in combat, even frontline.
No...no they are not frontline.

>>6809869
This just in, but the whole Molly Pitcher story is a fake. And the only effective deployment of women in combat in history was in the Soviet Army, during World War 2 (though, I have to add, it was extremely successful).

>>6809931
>the costume's gonna end up skimpy

This ignores the fact there are tons of elaborate costumes that aren't skimpy and that cosplayers purposefully make non-skimpy cosplays skimpy.

>Also there's a p strong implication that the women are only in it for the D which is fuckin' laughable.

That's not the only reason, but it's a part of it.

Like I said, sex seems to come up in conversation way more often with nerd girls than nerd guys. /a/ for example are much more interested in cuteness/moe, whereas girls were really happy when Panty and Stocking showed female characters having sex, even though it made them sluts.

>>6809937
There aren't a whole lot of women on the frontline, but they are there. At least in the army and marines.

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>>6809931
>Wasting your race/society/nation's most valuable assets/resources so frivolously

It's our job to protect you. You've never been in a combat situation, and you don't realize the psychological impact that it would have on men seeing their own women dying around them.

I'm navy, admittedly, but I know enough infantry/marines to know they all disagree with it for that very reason. It would kill a man inside to see that.

>>6809952
No there aren't, they tried to pass something to allow that a few months ago but it failed.

>>6809954
Got to agree with this I'm afraid.

>Think about my fiance being in a front line combat situation

I've seen a fair amount, but just imagining that gives me chills.

Also, after hearing about that wife of the Boston Bomber, and some other similar situations, I'm not really convinced it's entirely wise for men as a whole to let women make their own decisions.

>>6809934
What I meant by that that is that male readers are more likely to have wet dreams about dying, whilst screaming in agonizing pain due to having been set on wildfire, for Stannis' sake because men do have a little more of a... predisposal... to wish to die that way. Or eating vermin like rats and cats, and even some poor, poor dogs while starving for his sake. Females, on the other hand, are more sensitive to Stannis trying to force himself on Melly ("gibe another son pls, huehuehue") and more likely to notice that he's an asshole who keeps his wife and daughter locked up in cells and doesn't even let the latter see her only friend for some inane reason (he doesn't do that, actually, but hey - how are showfags supposed to know? some of them actually already think Shireen is a half dragon due to the inexplicable makeup on her face...).

>>6809960
*locked up in a tower or whatever...

Which reminds me, I would really want to know why the writers wanted Selyse to keep her fetuses in magic jars... but now I'm really going OT.

>>6809954
So you're overemotional and incapable of applying logic when it comes to women. Why should you be in the Navy if the thought of women being in danger completely incapacitates you?

Not to mention that it already happens. Repeat after me: It already happens. Women are mangled and shot and killed in the Army and they come back one-legged or one-armed or mutilated because the guys they shoot over there don't give a fuck if you're an attachment or if you're just driving a truck.

Women don't need protection in the way you want to do so. This isn't the medieval ages- women aren't a ~precious resource~. They're 50.1% of the human population, bro.

>>6809958
Yeah, like women don't worry about their fiancees. It gives them chills too, I promise. You're precious.

>>6809957
They are on the frontlines as logistics or medical or other not-technically-frontline-troop jobs, but they are not designated frontline troops. That's what the hubbub was about- they're working on it so they don't get sued by some of the female soldiers who are getting screwed by the current arrangement.

>>6809964
Not as precious as her. The values I was raised with are pretty clear that your fiance or wife and children are more important than you, as the man.

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>>6809931
>pfft women are already in combat, even frontline. If you took a moment to check the history and the current issues out you'd see that. A big part of it today involves female soldiers in the US not getting the medals they're entitled to because they're not ~technically~ a part of the groups they're attached to- and medals are a huge part of promotion.

>Women are already frontline troops in a few countries, and like I previously mentioned, women have always been part of combat, officially or unofficially. They'd crossdress to sneak into combat as a regular soldier, for myriad reasons. They would serve as espionage (and not just the lol prostitute kind). They served as guerrillas and militants- and were fucking vicious as any men you can name. There is the problem that a lot of them aren't written about, or treated as mythology (cf Molly Pitcher), but they exist and did exist and will exist.

>Trying to shut half of the species out because ~so violent~ and ~so masculine~ is stupid to the max. It'd be like shutting men out of all teaching of any subject because it's ~so peaceful~ and ~so feminine~. Set reasonable guidelines, and let them try. The ones who want in, will go in. The ones who won't, won't. I, personally, am a won't, but if you want to go be a grunt, go ahead.

Consider my jaw dropped. So many logical fallacies in such short message... Amazing. Would follow you on Tumblr if I had one.

>>6809964
>Repeat after me: It already happens. Women are mangled and shot and killed in the Army and they come back one-legged or one-armed or mutilated because the guys they shoot over there don't give a fuck if you're an attachment or if you're just driving a truck.

That's already bad enough, I've always said they should be withdrawn from front line situations, or situations where they can encounter the front line as a whole. And they sure as hell shouldn't be acting as CIA station chiefs. It's a man world out there, and a lot of those men want to do bad things to women, things much worse than just putting a bullet in your head or blowing you up with some shrapnel.

>>6809975
>I want to bar 50% of the population from a whole spectrum of careers because my dick can't handle it

Seriously, if they want to do it and can pass whatever test they put in place, let them in. Just because your dick can't handle it doesn't mean they can't.

Also that 'worse than bullet and shrapnel' bad stuff happens in real life to civilians too- either accidental or purposefully.

>>6809981

Anon is just trying to protect women.

Speaking as a guy, it seems odd to us that you say you're all strong and independent, and then like Katherine Russell you go after very controlling, Muslim men. To us that makes us think that the slightest bit of display of strength from a man makes you crumple.

>>6809981
>Seriously, if they want to do it and can pass whatever test they put in place, let them in
See, this is one of the main problems. The 'whatever' tests in question are 'lowered' tests. The maximum for PE tests for women == minimum for men to pass.

Note that I am not against women serving in the military, but I am certainly against people like you, who have no experience or knowledge about the subject they're talking about, making such bold statements about the subject because MUH FEELINGS.

At its core, having women in military is a "equality of opportunity (women who are capable can join) vs equality of outcome (women who want must be able to join!! or else!!!)" question.

The problem is that if we just used the first approach when it comes to female military service, only about ~single_digit% of women could pass the necessary requirements and join the army. It's not really worth changing the infrastructure to appease the needs of another gender if it nets a 1% increase in troop capacity.

So, we have to lower the standards, but with that we also have to lower the outcome... and then you cry about the horrible, horrible inequality and discrimination in army. And hence -> give me the same outcome everyone else gets, even though I'm not as capable as them!

>>6809986
Which you? I'm not every woman. Claiming 'all women are like X' is pretty dumb. I mean, think about an inverse- 'men are clearly incapable of living by themselves- they only thing they know how to do is fight. They're unreliable children, unfit for political office or the teaching of children.'. That sounds stupid, right? Why would it be okay to say something similar about literally half the population?

I like my dude- he's a great compliment to me, and maybe the ~strong controlling muslim~ is a great compliment to her. Maybe he makes her happy, unlike a bunch of neckbeards.

And seriously, the women who want into the careers that he's crying about being too dangerous are either capable or willing to become capable.

>>6810004
They're changing the test, numbnuts. They've been working on this for years and I wish they would just come out with it so people would stop crying about how those darn women are making the military weak.

They're making one test for frontlines and one for not-frontlines (as in actual not-frontliners, not the truck-driving sort that I mentioned before).

The non-frontline is lower, but that's because they don't have to be as athletic. Yeah, they can't be a fatty, but they don't have to be as athletic as Joe McGrunty has to be.

>>6810011
Katerine Russell was the wife of one of the Boston Bombers.

>>6810019
>They're changing the test, numbnuts.
Really? I don't remember hearing about any progress.
>how those darn women are making the military weak.
They wouldn't be making them weak if their positions in military were appropriate to their test results. The American army would be much better off keeping them the way they are now and keeping women in the rear with the gear (administrative stuff, transport, pilots, support, technical stuff...).

Personally, I'm in favor of making tests to enter the Army exponentially more difficult (and not just about the physical), because I'm sick of how incompetent and ineffective the average soldier is and sick of hearing those sob stories of dumbfucks who had no better career opportunity than soldiering about the horrible, horrible hardships of war.

Maybe then it would actually become a profession worth the respect.

But of course, that will never happen, because having the numbers and disregarding the quality is cheaper.

>>6809874
Why do you keep feeding the ruseman people?

>>6807901
We were tumblr all along!!

>>6807905
>>6807926
personally, I always found this boring and cringeworthy

and it implies that the guys miss those times...

>>6809322

>generalizations

>>6808635
...or a 20 inch crowbar.

ZING!

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>>6809370
Friendly reminder that dozens of guys have been in this girl's pussy, even though she claimed to be Lesbian first, and Christian later.

She even let this guy inside her. It's like she has literally no standards about who she fucks as long as he sucks up to her / her friends.

Because this hobby is mostly full of girls. Duh.
If a girl dresses revealing, some find it annoying. If a guy does it, its awesome!THIS HOBBY IS A CLAMFEST!

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Kill yourselves.

>>6811679
>mad whore can't argue against her being a superficial whore who only cares about how the guys look, doesn't care about them knowing the source
kekekekkekekekekekek

>>6808488
the whole world and all of biology is a double standard
deal with it

>>6811703
If we listenened to biology we would still be eating meat and killing mammoths and never have writing or reading or culture or anything.

>>6810773
>and it implies that the guys miss those times...

Anything wrong with that, libtard?

>>6811644
>She even let this guy inside her.

He looks like an ordinary guy, what's the problem? Are you seriously trying to argue micnax is hideous or something? Get a grip woman.

>>6811922
nicknacks, pls

Just because you're a not hideous (a 5/10) doesn't mean you can get girls like Eva or me.

>>6811931
What do you look like then?

And no, not micnax, and yes, women have absurdly high standards, this is why you get cheated on all the time.

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>>6811893
>implying we still don't eat meat

>>6811949
Well, you shouldn't, it's sick. You're killing innocent animals and getting fat in the process.

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>>6811962
I run 3 miles every day. Yup, sure am fat.

>Men and women are different so different standards will be applied.
More amazing common sense that everyone else knows at eleven, cgl.

>>6811931
>implying being a sloot with high standards is better than being a sloot with meh standards
You're still gutter trash, anon.

>>6811962
>He thinks there's such a thing as an innocent animal
Lrn2nature.

>>6811995
Yeah,... look at those seal babies killing and pillaging nature. Fucking shihead, that's what you are.

>>6812064

I am not sure what seal babies have to do with people eating meat anon. Or is seal meat some kind of delicacy I was unaware of before?

>>6811931

It's not that difficult to get inside a girl these days, you only need confidence, looks or money. Girls are just as desperate as guys, they merely have higher standards which can easily be brought down with confidence or money.

You need to get off your high horse, that's probably why you don't get laid.

>>6812076
>confidence, looks or money
And pizzaface has neither. 'Twas all but a pity friend fuck.

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>>6812076
>girls are desperate
you wish

>>6811931
>>6811644
is that joke still going around? christ

>>6812290
>is that joke still around
Well, unfortunately, yes. You're the only one who can stop coming here so . . .

I cringe when I see pickup artist videos
why does that work

>>6812352
They don't

Unless you mean, how do people spend money on that?