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Is there any actual reason as to why so much drama happens in the cosplay community?

As an outsider, it seems odd, you don't get as much drama in the video game community or the fishing community.
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Women hate each other. They all just want to one up each other and prove they're better than the next one. None of them are really friends, they just hang out together to talk shit on whichever girls aren't there that day.
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I blame social networking sites such as tumblr, before tumblr and facebook got involved, it wasn't really dramatic at all. Since the rise of social networking though it attracted a bunch of teens obsessed with their image and cosplaying just became an extension of the sort of drama which constantly happens on tumblr
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>>6891234
I actually get a kick out of listening to angry beta males bitch about women. Let him cry because he can't get a qt3.14 cosupray gf.

He'll probably get banned shortly anyway.
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>>6891241
Welp.
http://tfwnogf.co/ricky.php

Just so the rest of you know, this guy is legitimately the most stupid person on /r9k/, and if you know anything about /r9k/, you'll know that's quite an accomplishment. He doesn't cosplay, he certainly doesn't lolita, he doesn't even go to conventions. He's just here because girls are here, which is why I'll be emailing Moot if he doesn't fuck off immediately, given that Moot agreed we should get first-offence permabans for anyone treating /cgl/ as 'the girl board' and shitting it up.
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>>6891251
Come back in 2 years when he answers.
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>>6891256
Haha, hell no.

>>6891267
Nobody on this board or even on /r9k/ is interested in your unoriginal and self-obsessed whining about women. This board has a topic. It's not the board for you to come and rail at women because a qt3.14 turned you down once so you now hate all women forever.

>>6891264
Unfortunately /r9k/ doesn't stay on its own board. In an ideal world, 'femanon here' or 'girl here' on /r9k/ would be an autoban, and the same would go for 'guy here' on /cgl/. Unfortunately it's not so easy to autoban based on behaviour beyond that, but a vigilant mod would be nice to get all of the desperate pussy-chasing scum off this board so we could actually talk about cosplay and lolita.
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>>6891205 (OP)
>Is there any actual reason as to why so much drama happens in the cosplay community?
This is an artificial perception.
The only reason there 'seems' to be drama is because there's more avenues to post about it and more ways the general public can view it. Not to mention people in it tend to post their dirty laundry on the internet more often.
You should try other subcultures and see how bad they are.

Also
>implying there's no drama in the video gaming community
Lol, the fuck is this?
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I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION
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>>6891298

>people in it tend to post their dirty laundry on the internet more often.

why though?
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>>6891225
As ancient as the kitchen. Neanderthals were an egalitarian society, by the way, with women having equal power as men, and they were wiped off the face of Earth by the Alpha-male-subservient Homo 2xSapiens.
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Simple answer is: muh e-fame
It's not weird kids that like anime and want to dress up like their favorite character anymore.
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>>6891304
Why do you care?
Tumblr?
Facebook pages?
Idk, ask a sociologist.
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>>6891205 (OP)
girls.
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>>6891309
And then the homo saiyans came and all kinds of shit got fucked up.
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>>6891291
>I can already tell your a woman
>tell your a woman
>your a woman
>your

>mfw being this smug when you can't even get grammar straight
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>>6891317
Saiyans were only in Japan, dumb ass. And Mr. Satan beat them all.
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>>6891288
I'd be happy to drop the trip if such a rule was instated.

>>6891290
Which is exactly what I'm trying to say. Doesn't keep the desperate neckbeards out, though.

>>6891299
No, you can fuck right off too. This board is for people who are interested in cosplay and EGL, the gender of its users should be utterly irrelevant to the content that is posted here.
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>>6891323

And then they evolved into the Homo Sengens
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>>6891323
Mr. Satan!? This is a Christian board. We don't use that name here.
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>>6891303
Actually that's a good point. I'm pretty sure /y/ or /cg/ has the largest female user base, even with all the bromos.

I think the worst drama /y/ gets is over whether there's enough dick to classify as y or cg. This argument is flawed. That or gay sex negates drama. Either way.
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A dominatingly high percentage of women, a high percentage of younger people, the pressure and appeal of lots of attention and the draw of competition.

Not to mention daddy issues and bitches be crazy.
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>>6891339
In all the anon surveys cgl has always had by far the most unbalanced rate of women:men. It's practically 6:1.
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>tfw no catty seagull gf

pls kill me now.
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>>6891349
Eh, last one I saw (mind you, I'm not around much) wasn't more than 2:1. The cg one was about 10:1. But again, unreliable stats and probably outdated by the day.
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>>6891370

Generally most boards on 4chan are more balanced than you'd imagine, it's just anons don't mention ''btw im a grill'' or ''btw im a bouy'' in every post
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>>6891372
Most girls pretend to be boys on other boards or just don't bring it up.
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This one time I caught this big-ass mahi mahi and this jelly bitch cut my line and the fucker got away

Why is the fishing community full of salty fronds?
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I wish the actual cosplay and lolita threads moved at half these speeds.
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>>6891409
/cgl/ is a very slow board, slower than /tg/, I think. Still haven't found the dramu threads, they told me I'd find some here. :|
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>>6891409

I wish people were actually discussing the matter at hand and not having an argument amongst tripfags
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>>6891417
I told you mods are more serious now, WHY DON'T YOU EVER LISTEN TO ME PACHA???
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>>6891417
There's some top-quality lolita drama on page 0, but you're not a lolita so...yeah.

>>6891418
Threads like this are thinly veiled misogyny bait. None of them have ever gone well and the idea that you can pinpoint all the drama in the cosplay community to one cause is absurd.
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I'm just going to dump cosplay and lolita in hopes that this shit is purged.
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>>6891456

What is the point if you're going to shop the shit out of the image anyway?
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So I'm thinking of doing a Free! cosplay for HyperJapan 2013 since I'm too lazy to make a costume for anything.
Is it just lycra swim trousers and goggles?
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Turns out I don't have much Lolita after all.
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>don't get as much drama in the video game community
you've never been to /v/, have you?
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Wait...

What about the fishing community?
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>>6891500

You could say that it's a community that's been ruined by women

They're always causing so much drama by "fishing" for compliments
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There is literally drama everywhere, if there is someone to talk about and everyone doesn't all get along. You might need to be part of that "inner circle" but it's there in some way, shape or form. I see drama at my cleaning job among the guys, when I played yugioh and pokemon there was drama, there is drama in university/college classes, there is even drama if you have multiple housemates.

With the cosplay community you have a focus on appearance and competition, especially with the rise of social media, and that is going to further spark the drama.

A lot of Cosplay community discussion takes place online, cons are generally far between - this helps fuel it because when there isn't much to talk about it's easy to talk about people.A lot of cosplayers are also on facebook/twitter/tumblr so it's also easy to find stuff to call them out on.

Cosplay is just the perfect storm, but it's not the only hobby with drama.

(and I'm just going to say, after graduating highshool I have seen more men causing drama than women.)
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>>6891535
I'm amazed someone cosplayed as a Gijinka Garbodor. I love and hate that fucking thing but this looks great~
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I think some Nordic woman went through this thread. If you know what I mean.
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Fat people like to complain.
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>>6891251
Hahahahaha, of course he's a shitskin.
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Boy, am I glad there's an archive.
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>>6891517
clever!
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Women without social skills who are competing for attention.
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>>6891205 (OP)
>the fishing community.

The fishing community is all about successful trolling.
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>>6891205 (OP)
>You don't get as much drama in the video game community
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There's assholes in every subculture and hobby. Underwater basketweaving has dramatic assholes. Toy train collectors have assholes. Gingerbread house decorators have assholes too. Ours just looks worse because the nature of the hobby attract narcissists and people who take themselves too seriously.
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>>6891205 (OP)
>You don't get as much drama in the video game community

Yes, because Sony and Microsoft wars are just figments of our imagination.
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There really is drama everywhere.

>you don't get as much drama with the video game community
The fighting game community has a retarded amount of drama.
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However is posting these pictures, please continue.
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>>6896766
Whoever* derp
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>>6891205 (OP)
Lol have you ever been in a gaming community. Mother of all drama is in there nigga
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>>6891251
>Just so the rest of you know, this guy is legitimately the most stupid person on /r9k/, and if you know anything about /r9k/, you'll know that's quite an accomplishment.
Because of /r9k/ I made the life of a virgin guy I know in real life hell.
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Every hobby, every thing attracts drama cause there's a lot of assholes in the world who decide to be assholes in whatever it is they deal in.

And just cause you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. Just ignore the bullshit and keep on going.
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>>6891251
offense*
sorry.
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>>6891287
You're cool

Let's be friends
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>>6891205 (OP)
I'd sum it up like this: Cosplay is a visual, appearance-based hobby. It is pretty much all about looks and skills. If you get critiqued as a cosplayer, it is because someone is judging your appearance or your personal abilities, which many can feel is a direct insult.

It's like someone calling you ugly, when you were trying to look your finest or calling your hardest work shit.

It's all very personal and when people feel personally attacked they tend to lash back, getting equally as catty, petty, and short-sighted.

Likewise, many people can make purely superficials judgements, while leaving the person out of it, but others can still misinterperet that as an attack on that cosplayer's character or quality of personality.

It's entirely possible to tell a person that their cosplay looks awful or that something they did is wrong without equating them to Hitler.. Some people just don't get that.

Toss in the typical internet grapevine and some people wanting attention, but not wanting to deal with all the stress that comes with attention, and you just get this emotional clusterfuck of whining, bitching, and highschool drama.
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>>6891251
Sometimes someone's gender is relevant to the content they are posting about. Calm down.
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I think the fact some people are elitist about craftsmanship and such may attribute to it. This community is very much like a roller coaster, there is literally not a single cosplay out there that everyone likes. Someone, somewhere, for some reason will dislike it. Just how the world works.
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>>6891349
>>6891370
i think it has more to do with age, not gender. Anyone, male or female under 20 years old is going to cause drama more than people in their mid-late 20's..>>6891370
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>>6896930
I gotta disagree. The drama llamas/generally immature people I know all are in their mid or late 20s...
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>>6896930
Probably, but you do also on occasion get the hyper feminists/masculinists and their various related jokes and put-downs.
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>>6896881
Pretty much this.
>>6896921
It also sort of depends on the attitude you have as you cosplay or dress. If you come in and go "This is my first time trying so and so..."
Peeps gonna help and most will be reasonable and nice. If you take the advice good, if you ignore it and cry, bad.

You have to learn to take critique guys, for everything really. It hurts yeah but if you get better you'll see less and less and then it'll pay off. If you throw a fit and refuse to change then you're gonna get nothing but mean comments.
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>>6896921
You could probably argue that there's no cosplay that can't be nit-picked. I've heard more "It looks good, but..." rather than just, "I hate it because or reasons."

A picky critic can deduct imaginary points because of the material or the patterning or the quality of the fabric or the techniques or even just the series in general.

"It looks good, but... They're cosplaying from a show/comic/thing I hate, so its automatically shit."

I've even found myself deducting points because of things like pepakura or 3D printing or really anything that removes the "making it from the ground up" step. Admittedly, those techniques take a whole different set of skills and are no less labor intensive than anything else, but I can't help but feel that snobby bit of elitism when I see people who just printed off someone else's instructions and covered it in bondo or fiberglass or whatever, while I start from absolutely nothing and pattern a whole suit of armor from blurry reference pictures and my own scaling math.
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>>6896945
>tfw when one of my greatest sources of pride was being able to make really nice props for friends, and 3D printers are going to completely kill my game some day.

Thank god they're still out of most people's price range.
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Full thread

http://rbt.asia/cgl/thread/6891205#p6891205

#fight censorship
#smash patriarchy
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>>6896967
I've thought the same thing.
In the next few years, we're going to see some home printers and on-demand printing services offering small props. Think buckles, brooches, bits of jewelry, little accent pieces and ornamentation for armor. Being a prop maker will still matter.

In the far future, when I hope I'm done cosplaying, we may see some cosplay markets reduced to digital sales of 3D Printable models of different items. Pay for the file, print it off, paint, and you're good to go. At that time, the skills to have will be the ability to rip models from games and convert them to printable elements, the ability to model things from scratch, and knowing how to paint. Sewing will probably still be pretty necessary also.


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