>girls on a stripper pole at a booth at an all-ages conStay classy, Otakon.
>not actually strippingStay stupid /cgl/
>>6096318Oh, you're right. It's not like dancing on a stripper pole at an event that a family with 9 year-olds can attend is classless. Fuck, they should have had kids on that stripper pole. It's not like there's anything wrong with that. It's just a pole.
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>>60969539 year olds should not be at conventions.
>>6096975Children can and do attend anime conventions.
>>6096953Correct, it is just a pole.With all the Jessica Nigiris and Yayas around, I highly doubt parents noticed some weebs were standing around a pole in clothes that are essentially fancy sundresses, only one of which that shoes bare midriff. No breasts or ass hanging out anywhere.Were they grinding and shaking on it? If not, stop being a baby.
The girls were literally just rotating around it and doing some shakes. No sexual grinding or anything. Gosh /cgl/, you make my mother look non-PC.
>>6096984If it's just a pole, then it would be just alright for prepubescent children to dance on it. It's just a pole, after all.
>>6096979good for them, but it`s not anyone`s responsiblity to worry about them and what they see.
>>6096953It IS just a pole. This girl poledances for Cirque du Soleil. Is she classless? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCTxAw9B0E
>>6097016Except for the parent's. And the convention staff's.
>calling it a stripper pole and not just a pole>not realizing that pole-dancing is a legitimate way to exercise and doesn't have to be sexual at all>not seeing that the girls doing the pole dancing really only had one hand on the pole and were basically just running in circles rhytmically >2012 right after OtakonISHYGDDTI mean, gosh, I took my 12 year old sister with me and she thought it was funny. It's not going to scar someone for life.
>>6097022parents yes, convention staff no.
>>6097020Actually, yes. It's still classless, even if overly expensive circus acts do it.
>>6097028Legally, they're required to keep children from being exposed to pornography, which isn't uncommon at an anime convention. So, it IS their responsibility.
>>6097029jfc stop being such a moralfagthey're having just having harmless fun
>>6097031two cosplayers hanging around a pole isn`t pornography.
Stripper pole?!I thought we were celebrating festivus!
You say that like strippers are a bad thing.
>>6097044trollzo, when are you going to post voldie's nudes.
>>6097035You were arguing that the convention doesn't have a responsibility to worry about kids that attend their convention. Clearly, they do.
>>6097031Wow, crazy moralfag alert.I bet you think girls cosplaying as Yoko are sluts and the only proper cosplay are ones adhering to extremist Muslim or Puritan Christian principles.
Are people really defending this? Of course it's a stripper pole. Who are you trying to kid?
>>6097047And you're changing the argument. The problem here that you are presenting is a pole. The girls who danced on it did so non-erotically.Poles don't automatically have sexual connotations, unless you're a closet or open pervert...
>hear complain about how the girls on the pole were too boring and not even sexy>omg u guise too lewd 4 otakon>/cgl/
>>6097050Stop trying to force your worldview on me.
>>6097046Sorry bro, I don't have any.
>>6097052It's just a pole.
>>6097059And you stop trying to force your worldview on me and other people who obviously have no problems with this. If you think some girls dressed in poofy dresses dancing around a pole in a completely non-erotic fashion is too lewd for you and your family, then just don't go to the dealer's room or the con at large, while everyone else has a laugh. It's just that simple.
>>6097052So what if it's a stripper pole?The girls weren't doing anything erotic on it
You know, when JNig got kicked out of PAX for a nip-slip, it made sense. But a pole? As long as there's no one actually stripping on it, it's not really any worse than the scantily clad women running around. They're using it for marketing, big deal. Guess what? Nine-year-olds nowadays know what sex is. Heck, middle school is virginity losin' time. I hardly think seeing some girls on a pole is going to be a big deal for kids who have probably been exposed to hentai.
HIDE YO KIDSHIDE YO WIFEERRYBODY ON POLES
My local female-only gym has pole classes for all ages. There is a children's one too. Pole dancing doesn't HAVE to be sexual, geez. It's a great way to exercise.
>>6097054Is there an unerotic way to dance on a stripper pole? Come on. It wasn't a telephone pole they were dancing against outside. It was a fucking stripper pole with a logo on it advertising a site that sells fucking stripper poles. It wasn't just some pole.
>>6097070You sick fuck.reported.
>>6097072You live in the South, don't you?
>>6097078I live in London (UK)
>>6097079Technically still the South.
>>6097079More evidence that white trash don't only live in America.
>>6097074Yes. You dance, but happen to hold onto the pole. Dumbass.
A pole is a pole. It's no more a stripping pole than a random stage is a £stripping stage if no one is stripping on it. There are pole exercise classes that have nothing "sexy" about them and they are for both kids and adults, and then there are pole classes that are specifically for striptease and erotic dancing which are for adults only.
Guys! It's worse than we thought!I saw poles right on the street! They even had these flashing lights on them!And then I was at my grandma's place, and she had this horizontal pole just sitting there above her window with all these gaudy fabric just draped over it.AND! I was walking by a school, and right there in the fucking playground were so many poles! One had a fishnet thing hanging off of it, others hand chains attached to leather straps!This is all so depraved! Won't someone think of the children!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDv2pnR3_YREV UP THOSE BONERS
can't I just dance around a pole without being judged? fuck you guys.
I see the people in this thread need to catch up on their reading...
>>6097090Who dances on them?
>>6097090It's even worse! There are wooden poles in your house supporting your walls, and metal poles in taller buildings supporting them! IT'S A CONSPIRACY TO TURN OUR CHILDREN INTO SEX CRAZED FREAKS
OP you are a gigantic prude GTFO of 4chan you pathetic cosplay.com-caliber shitcunt. Nobody sympatizes with your pathetic amish-like morals.
>>6097093If you find this young-mind-scarring, you are a part of the problem.What problem? I dunno. But you are.
Yeah, you guys are right. There's nothing classless about dancing on a stripper pole at a family event.
Can you really call it a stripper pole if no one is stripping on it?
>>6097110No, there isn't. They were both dressed, kept their feet on the floor, and didn't do anything sexual.
>>6097110Not any worse than most of the costumes. And the lack of actual stripping, and just dancing by a pole isn't exactly deviant behavior
Personally, I find pole-dancing kinda tacky and shit. Yeah it can be non-sexual, but you know that most girls who have a go do it in a "look at me I am being funny / sexy / edgy" way. But that's just personal preference, it doesn't bother me. Also who the fuck cares if a child sees someone clothed dancing at a pole? If that's what it takes to scar your child, you should probably quit parenting now and go kill yourself. Let alone that unless your child has already been exposed to actual strippers, they probably won't even understand the sexual connotation when they see a clothed person dancing on a pole.
Which booth was it at I did not see anything any pictures?
>>6097121GENE KELLY IS A DEPRAVED LUNATIC PERVERTI CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW AMERICA IS FINE WITH HIM ADVOCATING MALE STRIPPERS
>>6097127At the Funimation booth, right near the front. If you missed it, you'd have have to of skipped right past the Aniplex booth or went around the other side of the Funimation booth.
>>6097102At least I know what's classless and what's not. You probably wear sandals everywhere... with a "Don't Re-Nig in 2012" shirt... and chew with your mouth open. Fucking piece of trash.
I find it amusing that Okakon staff is here posting pictures of a variety poles. If you posted a stripper pole to people, 9 times out of 10, they will call it a stripper pole for a reason.
>>6097138I'm not Otakon staff. I don't even go to Otakon. I'm sitting on my couch in Toronto.
>>6097121When will hollywood stop corrupting our youth! The same man they have dancing on stripper light poles is also dancing with cartoon mice! How is that not a direct attack on our children?
>>6097093Is that it? I was expecting lollipop chainsaw tier clothes. PSG on stripper poles is almost too cute to be obscene. All that frill between them and the pole.
>>6097142Holy fuck so am I! Only, it's less of a ouch and more an office chair, but still! Toronto: We don't give a shit about poles.
>>6097144I don't remember Gene Kelly grinding his ass on a stripper pole in a short skirt in front of dozens of sex-obsessed virgins taking picture and video.
>>6097137Not the same person, but what's classless about it? Please explain it to me.
>>6097155>I don't remember Gene Kelly grinding his poofy-material covered butt on a pole in a mid-length skirt in front of a few sex-obsessed virgins and dozens of amused congoers taking picture and video.Fixed that for you.
Staff clearly stated it was not a stripper's pole but a streetlamp cutoff or subway hand-holding pole.
>>6097152Remember a while back they had some dancers at city hall doing a demo for the council? Over some licensing thing?
Lol no need to keep dropping your name, Pridemore.
>>6097167Actually, I post under my name. There's just no reason for me to say anything. No one's going to care about what I have to say and I have nothing to contribute. Had an awesome time and a great work out.
>>6097014Yes, it would be fine for children to rotate around and do some mild shaking around a pole.Remember when Miley Cyrus got blasted for her "pole dance" way back when? Remember when everyone finally saw the video and it was literally just her dancing poorly around a pole, not pole dancing?Such autism.
God you people are thick.Me: Hey, nice car, /cgl/./cgl/: That's not a car.Me: It's clearly a car./cgl/: It's only a car if someone drives it.Me: It has four wheels and an engine. It's a car./cgl/: It's obviously not a car. Me: It's. A. Fucking. Car./cgl/: Nah uh, it's only one if you drive it.It's a stripper pole. Deal with it.
It was there so some hambeast can shake her jollies. Congoers deserves a refund to buy some eye bleach.
>>6097195A car has only one use. To be driven.There are many uses for a pole and dancing on it is not always sexual.That said you can build a sculpture of a car, but if you can't drive it, is it still a car?
>>6097195That is possibly the worst comparison I have ever read in my life. Cars only have one purpose, poles, have many purposes. And the argument isn't that this is or isn't a pole, it's that nothing perverted is being done with or around it.If someone has handcuffs, most would think they are used by police. If someone then uses those handcuffs while engaged in sexual activities, then they take on a different meaning.
>>6097195That's not the argument.Regardless of whether it was a stripper pole, they were not stripping and they were not dancing erotically on it. People crying about it "damaging their child's mind" are being childish.Unless those eight year olds have actually watched PSG, they aren't going to get what the reference is. Grow up.
>>6097195who gives a shit. if they aren`t actually stripping on it, it`s not a goddamn issue. I dont give a flying fuck about shit parents who bring their brats to conventions either.
Why was the pole there if not to be danced upon?
>>6097195what if the car had a naked lady dancing around it?
>>6097210Yeah, but a pole sold by a company that produces stripper poles to pole dance on only has one use.
>>6097220No one is arguing it wasn't there to be danced upon. We're saying there's nothing wrong with that since the dance wasn't erotic. Maybe playfully sexy but nothing above PG-13. I laugh at parents who take kids old enough to be "scarred" by something at a con but too young to see stuff. Why are you taking kids older than 2 but younger than 8? They're the brattiest then, too much of a hassle, especially for a big con. Take them to disney world instead, costs about as much if you take dealer's room into account.
>>6097247They are called Fitness Poles.
>>6097247Well obviously it has another use as well as evidenced by the video. If you think anyone is scarred by that you have a very sad world view.
>>6097252Now that's a nice euphemism.
>>6097250So you do admit, it's a stripper pole. The only difference is they tried to tone it down for the kids.
>>6097254I'm not arguing that it's mentally scarring. I'm arguing that it's CLASSY AS FUCK.
>>6096975As a convention owner, I would like to point out that while plenty of us are highly determined to do "family friendly" conventions, the "all ages" terminology is basically simply a term to say "we want you to bring as many people as possible, and we won't have R rated stuff unless it's late at night"Most cons are "all ages" but have 18+ panels. How is that "all ages"?
>>6097280But those panels wouldn't willy nilly (hehe, I said willy) let a kid into those panels. That pole is right in front where everybody can see them. That's the difference.
>>6097292What's the difference?You're still pointing out that the idea of "all ages" conventions actually being meant to appeal to all ages is a lie, as Otakon is clearly demonstrating.
>>6097292Nobody was dancing erotically or stripping on the pole. You haven't even disagreed with that.This is a really persistent troll.
>>6097302You can have 18+ elements. It's how you deal with them (ie not in front of an all ages crowd for starters).
There's no classy way to dance on a strip pole outside of a strip club. It can't be done.
>>6097020Ugh shy hyper extends her knees. That really fucking bugs me.likely only because my knees do it too and I hate them, but UGH.
>>6097311>TrollIs that what you call people who disagree with you? I know it's easy to say but really. Anybody can see that that pole was meant to be grinded upon.
>>6097320then you're not "all ages"an "e for everyone" game won't ask for your credit card to let you play the h-scenes. You don't get strip clubs with special "no nudity" sections so you can let underage teens in."all-ages" means just that, all of the ages.Which means if they have to limit their programming to 18+, they aren't all ages.Just so we're clear, I'm talking about when they HAVE to label their programming 18+. Panels that are 18+ simply because it involves actors who adlib, and thus is an 18+ as a precaution don't exactly count, but that's not very often.
>>6097356Then it's their problem for advertising themselves as all ages. If you're not, then say so.
Cons shouldn't be catering to fucking children. If a parent want to bring their child it should be at there discretion. By your logic, they shouldn't even be promoting Panty and Stocking since it's such a nasty show. There's a lot of shit that goes down at cons, they could never be completely "family friendly" ie, swearing, skimpy costumes, promoting of pg 13 anime.
I am A-POLED at this thread.
>>6097210y-y...yes?
so, have you seen the kinds of things they have in the dealer's room?actually, have you watched anything but shonen?
How would you all feel about me having a booth where I have 10-12 year-old little girls dressed up as Panty and Stocking grinding against a pole?
>>6097477Shhh, let them have their fun. Let's not tell them about the love-pillows/covers draped around a few stalls, or they might get a hernia.
>>6097508Exactly. Why call yourself "all ages" when you're not? Just say you're a 16+ con.
The same pole was at AX and no one reacted like this. Stay lame east coast.
>>6097506Because, yes, taking something to an extreme is always the right way to handle problems.But I'll humor you. I'd be appalled, since children shouldn't even know how to grind. But these people are adults and did it sparingly. They were mostly acting goofy. It might not have been "classy" but so fucking what, why do you care? You're going to an ANIME CONVENTION. The only thing less classy without diving into creepy or dangerous shit is a My Little Pony con.
>>6097514People were too busy trying to avoid the blacks.
>>6097356So Trader Joe's is a 21+ store?
>>6097518Why would you be appalled? Because it was a stripper pole. Thanks for finally admitting that it was a stripper pole and this shit is fucking tasteless.
>>6097525>Thanks for finally admitting that it was a stripper poleYou're not very good at reading words, anon.Are you by chance a far-right political ideologist?
>>6096262dont forget, miley cyrus also danced around a stripper pole in front of hundreds of little girls
picked up a card for the pole company at the booth since I plan on getting into pole fitness. http://xpoleus.com/store/welcome-to-xpole-us-online-c-2.htmlso there is there site. nothing about strippers.
>>6097525Have you even SEEN Panty and Stocking?
>>6097552You should buy this T-Shirt from the same website and give it to your friends while you pole exercise.
>>6097564You should buy this outfit and wear it all the time even in the bedroom.
>>6097564have you SEEN some of the crazy shit those fitness girls can do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOYE_i2iROoI like to watch.
>>6097556That isn't the matter being discussed here. It's whether dancing on strip poles is classy. It's not. And whether that's a stripper pole. It is. If Panty and Stocking did anal gangbangs in the show, would it be classy to simulate anal gangbangs in public in front of people? No, it wouldn't. Stay classy.
>>6097574But it's not being sold from your fine web establishment.
>>6097582It doesn't matter if it's classy or not; you can hardly say a great many things that go on at anime cons are classy. The fact of the matter is, it was not pornographic nor even outlandishly suggestive, and therefore is acceptable.
>>6097576I never said I wouldn't watch. :3 I just find it humorous that people think it's not sexy.
>>6097582So dancing isn't classy? They didn't strip. It wasn't even provocative. They just kind of bounced around. I'm failing to see why it was un-classy. People can use ANYTHING to be sexual. Starting to think they people pushing it to be over sexualized are the real perverts.
>>6097593That other tasteless things happen at cons is no good excuse.
>>6097596Dancing on a stripper pole isn't classy. No.
>>6097611But it's not a stripper pole. It's a fitness pole. says so on the base.
>>6097614lol ok, whatever makes you feel better about owning a stripper pole.
>>6097614A stripper pole by any other name would still smell as sweaty.
It's just a stupid con. There are probably tables there selling yaoi and hentai. If people think that their little precious petal brats will wilt upon seeing some idiot grinding on a pole or a skimpy costume they should just take their kids to the park or a children's play or something. Who cares. Are you a parent, OP? Did you go there with your family? I bet you are a 20-something childless virgin anyway so how does this affect you.
>>6097625>There's porn all over the place. What difference does it make that there's a stripper pole there too?...This is not helping your case that this isn't tacky.
>>6097649but panty and stocking IS a tacky anime you stupid fuck
>>6097656You agree then that dancing on stripper poles in public events is tasteless. Glad that we've come to an agreement.
We can argue with this prude all day, but the fact remains that OP is the only one with the problem.
>>6097685I don't see how I'm a prude. I thought there was nothing sexual with pole dancing. Are you implying that it is sexual?
I figure it's not so much that you're a prude and everyone else isn't but that the only one who gives a fuck at its presence is you.
>>6097692Imma spell this out for ya. You know how there's nothing sexual about midriff, but prudes act like a baby in a bikini's a big deal? Yeah. it's kinda like that. You're seeing sexual content that isn't there and trying to force the removal of it based on your own wacked-out ideas about sexuality. There wasn't a bunch of women in their panties hanging off a pole with singles in their g-string. It was a couple of girls in frilly costumes dancing around a pole. Any attempts at actual strip-tease would have seems silly. It was a fun little thing that goes along well with the context of the show.
>>6097701I'm sure a lot more people would give a fuck if they knew kids were being allowed into conventions that sell porn and have stripper poles in their booths.
>>6097713A stripper pole is a stripper pole.
>>6097723Okay. Are you aroused by the sight of it? Without a human on it, dancing sexually, is it a object of deviancy? No? Then what's the issue?
>>6097716>>6097716If parents actually care SO much, they should be more aware about where their children are, and what kind of content they are exposed to there. And if they object to it, they can just not allow their kids to go there. If they are the kind of parents who haven't a clue where their kids are, what their hobbies entail, and what kind of material they are exposed to and yet they will throw a shitfit cause of a random pole in a con, then they are just crappy, irresponsible and inconsistent with their parenting.
>>6097750Yes, a stripper pole is an object of deviancy.
is that moron still in this thread.jesus, it doesn't matter that it was a stripper pole. just because it's a stripper pole doesn't mean that suddenly the cosplayers up there were stripping it all off and booty shaking or some shit. they were just dancing around and acting silly.
>>6097753And probably wouldn't care anyway. I mean, they didn't care about the kid already. If they ask "where did I go wrong?" they're going to have a lot of answers.
>Complaining about the poleAre you shitting me /cgl/? They had this at AX and that's an all ages con too. Stay stupid, guys.
>>6097137No one gives a fuck what you consider class-less, you stupid pathetic prude. Go live in Iran or Alabama where people are more accepting of judgmental assholes like you.
>>6097795it's just one gigantic faggot who's complaining/trolling about it. they probably didn't go to AX or any other con that featured a stripper pole. More cons should have stripper poles just to piss that prude off.
>>6097805See, the one thing I don't seem to understand is why the hell a stripper pole out of all things bothered him. Must have gotten a bad lapdance or something.
>>6097774But it does matter. If it were just some pole with nobody near it, it wouldn't matter. But this was a pole with slutty-looking characters from a slutty anime. Oh, gee, I wonder if that's intended to be a stripper pole or a fitness pole.... Duh, it's a stripper pole, which was put there to get your attention, because sexy girls doing sexy things gets your attention. It was girls dancing on a stripper pole and it was trashy as hell.
>>6097801>go to Alabama to escape trashiness.Oh, boy. I would not as been as surprised to see a stripper pole at a con in Alabama.
>>6097823>Complains about girls dancing on a stripper pole when the anime features a girl who loves having sex and other vulgaritiesYou're done, officially full retard.
>>6097833OK, the anime and the strippers pole are both trashy. is that what you want me to say? The anime is completely irrelevant. It's not giving you carte blanche to do white trashy things in public.
>>6097851No, I want you to quit being stupid. When you go to an Anime con, you can't expect that you're going to a country club.
>>6097861It's an all-ages con, mate
>>6097874And so was AX. You see Yoko at all ages cons, don't you? You see Queen's Blade at all ages cons, don't you? I don't see how this was any different because they weren't taking their clothes off. They were parading around on a stage having fun and dancing. They weren't acting like sluts, so I don't see the problem here.
>>6097874Do you not remember all the raunchy jokes in the Animaniacs? An all ages TV SHOW?Hello nurse anyone? Kids don't know the connotations of that pole. And if they do, that's on the parents.
>>6097210With that concept a car has many usesYou can listen to the radio, turn on the lights, sleep thereYour logic is flawed, sis
>>6097880
I was actually really disappointed that they didn't do some pole dancing.
>>6097876Someone else doing it doesn't mean anythingAnd I'm not arguing against your case, I'm just saying that your arguments are dumb as hell
>>6097889Perhaps those weren't the best examples, but as stated before the pole's context relies solely on however one interprets it. If kids know about that stuff already, then it's not anybody's fault but the parent's.
Not sure if the pole, since it's a portable and probably not locked down properly, is rated for actual weight-bearing exercises.
>>6098031Pole dancer here, X poles are actually really sturdy. You can do most spins that don't put your center of gravity out too far, and you can put weights on the stage's stabilizers if you really, really have to go all out. Of course, you will still get sway, nothing will ever beat a pole secured at the top.
