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    7 KB Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:19 No.5813426  
    What are your unpopular opinions about lolita?

    My number one is that I hate pink x red. I think it's the ugliest color combination in the world. It seems to be very popular with lolitas, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:20 No.5813428
    you hate valentine's day too don't you lolita!spongebob ;_;
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:24 No.5813437
    >>5813428
    Valentine's Day is the only day it doesn't bother me. Same reason that I don't get upset when people wear green x red on Christmas.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:27 No.5813443
    Plush bags. They all just look tacky as shit to me.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:31 No.5813454
    I don't like split wigs (;▽;) esp with sweet lolita. You can still be ott without your hair colors matching all the colors in your dress...
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:33 No.5813457
    I hate lolita shoes with burning passion. The only ones I like are Rocking Horse shoes. I'd rather see a lolita with normal shoes rather than Tea Parties or some childish shit like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:35 No.5813463
    I hate "steampunk lolita". I have seen it sorta pulled off a few times, but usually it's just some crappy ita coord with a waist cincher, some clock jewelry, and a pair of goggles. I dunno why people have to try to combine everything with lolita. You can still have a cool outfit, but just because your steampunk dress has a puffy knee length skirt doesn't make it lolita.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:37 No.5813465
    I hate gothic.
    It has the easy tendency to look awful, & then those with poor taste think its okay that their gothic coord is ita & that anyone with criticism or negativity toward it is snobby..
    And lace-monsters will never go away. URGH. "I'm getting into lolita/ bought a lolita dress, anon. What do you think of this cute dress I bought?"

    Last thing- there is a feeling of corrosion on my insides when a good friend who makes more money than I, gets cheap lace monsters. But she's older, & I play off my "AH, but you could have gotten something so much nicer!" in a joking manner. It's a form of cosplay to her, so it doesn't matter. But it chaps my ass when her outfits for work (secretary) have so much more class sometimes!
    It took me less than a week browsing lolita online to have better taste in lolita, so why not my wealthy friend too? ;__;
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:38 No.5813469
    >>5813465
    >facepalm

    My only 'unpopular opinion' I guess was my distaste for gothic.
    Sorry for everything else. I have a lot on my chest.
    >> Princess !pjHfCHeRRY 05/08/12(Tue)11:38 No.5813470
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    I can't stand pink x red. Ever.
    I also think black x wite is tacky as hell, but I think that's a pretty popular opinion.

    >>5813457
    Do you hate of boots like these as well? I'd have them over tea parties any day.
    >> Princess !pjHfCHeRRY 05/08/12(Tue)11:40 No.5813473
    >>5813465
    I can't stand gothic either. All I can think of is 13yr old itas at conventions...
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:41 No.5813476
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    >>5813457
    Not all lolita shoes are tea parties.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:57 No.5813509
    >>5813426
    I hate pink x red, too. My aunt used to yell at me when I wore pink x red as a kid, so I think it's probably just ingrained in me that it's an awful color combination.
    I also dislike most loli-specific shoes. A pair of tasteful heels just looks so much classier.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)11:58 No.5813514
    I don't see why people shit their pants over the JetJ painting dresses. They're plain, boring black bodices with shitty Rococo paintings along the bottom. They never pick interesting paintings, and the execution always falls short. Don't get me wrong, I love JetJ, but those dresses drive me crazy. Though, I admit, I admire one that is well coordinated since I think it's difficult to pull off.

    Also, I'm convinced that 80% of the girls into the AP-style sweet lolita are personality-less, boring people. I've only met a handful that I really enjoyed talking to and didn't come across as too fake or tryhard.

    Thank for this thead, anon. I feel better already.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:02 No.5813522
    >>5813514
    I agree about the painting dresses.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:03 No.5813524
    Unpopular or not, h-h-here I go.

    Rocking horses look stupid IMO, but seem nice in the snow with the height. I'm also not a fan of lace-up ballet shoes over stockings with a pattern, because it ends up too busy to me. I hate those harlequin tights and I only like them when there's already a diamond motif in the print. Those tights with the angels at the bottom that everyone's fawning over look really tacky and I have lewd thoughts whenever someone crosses their legs wearing them.

    >>5813463
    I agree with this, though my irritation is more toward military. I'm just waiting for the day someone wants to make an SS uniform coord and the shitstorm that ensues.

    ...Actually, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. If anyone can redirect me to somewhere that happened online, I'd love to read through it.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:06 No.5813529
    >>5813524
    A brand released it. http://egl.livejournal.com/16459252.html

    It spawned a getoffegl post, which in turn got posted to sf_drama.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:09 No.5813533
    I think that unless you are under 18, underweight and have a pretty face, you have no business wearing it.

    Oh. And you shouldn't wear it outside of Japan or conventions, either. Halloween is sort of acceptable...depending on the party you're attending.

    OH...and don't wear it if you're not Japanese. Kthx.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:29 No.5813585
    Oh, I've been saving up myself for one of these threads.

    Here's a list of the things that I don't like that I can think of right now:

    - The colour yellow. It suits only a handful of people and the only ones who look pretty in it are dark skinned lolitas. Every time I see a pasty ass whitey in a yellow skin I was to confiscate it.

    - People who have too short petticoats so their dresses kind of hang awkwardly.

    - Baby the Stars Shine Bright. The name of the brand is gramatically incorrect and every time I see it, it makes me want to climb up walls.

    - Every fucking bag made out that faux vinyl material that's all shiny and tacky. No, use a proper bag, not some fucking pastel plastic container.

    - Wigs. Ok, so some people have really thin hair or alopecia, fine, that I'll let pass. But people with normal, perfectly fine hair that wear wigs end up looking ridiculous about 80% of the time. The worst offenders are those who wear twin tails. No, you don't look super sugoi and kawaii, you look like you found extensions at the bargain bin and decieded to clip them all on to justify the buy.

    - People who call each other by their respective internet nicknames in real life at meets. Ok, you want to indentify people first, but they do have a name that usually is easier to remember than fucking xXKawaii~FairyXx.

    - Actually, anything vinylish as materials go. Bags, shoes and the like. You're supposed to wear clothes, not things that look like cheap toys.

    - Velvet embroidery. As lovely as the patterns are, I own a cat and kitty's hair gets everywhere no matter how careful I am. I have to spend hours plucking those goddamn hairs off and even then they magically somehow come back.

    (cont.)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:39 No.5813613
    >>5813533
    >don't wear it if you're not Japanese
    Taking the piss. 5/10, I raged and replied.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)12:44 No.5813628
    >>5813585
    You probably guessed I meant *skirt and not skin

    Let me continue:

    - Prints with large alternating stripes with busy patterns.

    - Dresses and skirts with what I call the 'half drape'; BtSSB makes these. A top layer of the dress/skirt is brought up to a side. This never looks good on anyone; it always looks somehow like a half finished dress or like you're trying to cover up a stain.

    - Most of the various perfumes people have sprayed on; ok, we all have heard the BO horror stories, but COME ON! There's no need to smell like a congregation of fucking toilet refresheners.

    - I don't like Angelic Pretty because it's pastels on pastels on pastels nowadays and the ones who wear the dresses tend to shriek if you come close enough to actually manage to distinguish the pattern.

    - Aprons; aprons are practical clothes that are there to protect your clothes when you do messy things; they aren't supposed to just be decorative.

    - Most lolita headwear looks terrible; but here's my top five from most hideous to least (relativly speaking):
    bonnets < maxi pad < tiny top hats < hugeass bows < straw hats

    - The 'lolita spesific food', meaning macarons, tartlets, bonbons, etc. Too much sweet stuff, total overkill. There's plenty of practical savoury foods.

    - People who use interchangably the words 'macarons' and 'macaroons'. Not the same thing.

    - Whereas I do like to see handmade stuff, the crap some people produce and try to sell is astounding. Usually sellers try to show their best pieces, but some people don't even do that.

    (cont.)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:03 No.5813664
    >>5813585
    >>5813628

    So you pretty much hate sweet lolita and everything that goes with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:11 No.5813694
    Sweet lolita i so fucking disgusting. Majority of it is this shitty EEK PINKUPINKUBEBBIBLUCANDYSWEETIEUGUU fuck that should be banned from anyone over the age of 7.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:11 No.5813696
    >>5813628

    Ok, last part (for now):

    - Dresses with the 'double bow'. One on the chest, one by the waist. Some make it worse by adding a third bow on their head.

    - Those who think that one colour = perfect coord. I'm looking at your Gothic lolitas who just pile on the black.

    - Prints with the same animals / woodland creatures. There are more animals than horses, kittens, rabbits and does out there. Why not make a safari print? Or something with bears or even insects? Hell, I still want to make a penis / vagina print.

    - Guro always looks like scheit. Always.

    - The term 'OTT'. Most of the time, the coord isn't even OTT. When I am promised for instance sweet OTT, I want to see you on a throne made out of cake with meringue flowers as accessories. If you're going there, go all the way. If you aim for over the top, then fine, it'll probably look costumey, but at least you went there.

    - People who simply can't dress themselves, espcially when it comes to colours. One has to understand what colours suits your skin tone. I've seen too many girls in pink dresses with their skin being pink as well, so the end result is this marshmellow with a face.

    - Gothics who think that the only eye makeup they need is panda eyes. You can get more creative than that.

    - The lack of the colour green. Why is there so little green dresses? It's a lovely colour that would work well with Classic. Actually, the lack of variety in colours in general. Purple would be great for Gothic. Powder turquoise for Sweet.

    Ok, that's all.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:19 No.5813722
    It's an excuse for alternative/weaboo/socially awkward/other anime type girls to play pretend popular girls.

    I've seen some of the sweetest people, turn into catty bitches over the most seemingly stupid wardrobe faux pas.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:20 No.5813731
    I'm with all the people who don't like the majority of lolita specific shoes. Bodyline shoes in particular annoy me. That toe... that huge bubble toe. Uhg. They just look so clunky.

    I also...am not a fan of huge ass petti's. I know people get on their high horse about "needs more poof" and "wear a petti at all times", but sometimes things just don't need to be super huge -- Mostly if you're a little older and going for a more mature look.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:22 No.5813737
    >>5813664
    This is a list of things I personally would never wear, but some people can pull it off nicely. Most of the time, the results are terrible.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:30 No.5813765
    >>5813696
    >Hell, I still want to make a penis / vagina print.
    So edgy desu.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:32 No.5813771
    >>5813731
    I love bubble toes.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:33 No.5813775
    I just wish people would stop taking all of this crap so seriously. The world will not end just because you have a few itas in your comm, and you'll still have to eat/sleep/shit no matter how much other girls bitch about you on the internet. Bitching on the internet about things you can't change is just beating your fists against a brick wall, so what's the point?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:34 No.5813781
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    >>5813470
    >>5813457

    So...how do y'all feel about heeled tea parties?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:43 No.5813811
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    >>5813628

    Dude, I hate the whole "lolita specific" anything that's not related to the fashion - most especially when it comes to food, music, and hair. Serving nothing but sweets at meet ups are definitely overkill.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:55 No.5813862
    >>5813781
    NTAYRT I think those look even more like clown shoes than flat tea parties, and I love my embarrassing Zonko the Clown shoes.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)13:59 No.5813875
    I greatly dislike people who think that there is anything inherently lolita about certain activities. It just rubs me completely the wrong way. T
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:03 No.5813887
    hate wigs with huge pigtails, specially slipt color ones this fad needs to die right now
    hate knee socks
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:04 No.5813890
    why do all lolita meet-ups have to circulate around japanese or eastern foods/events desu?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:04 No.5813893
    >>5813890
    As much as they deny it, they're still huge weeaboos.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:07 No.5813904
    >>5813893
    True, especially considering that just because lolita came from Japan, the influences are European... so why not do activities relating to Europe?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:09 No.5813914
    >>5813529
    Oh wow, I was expecting to come back later and eventually see something, not the next post.

    Thank you, I needed a good read.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:11 No.5813923
    >>5813696
    There's that giraffe print by Lady Sloth!
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:30 No.5814035
    >>5813696
    >>5813628
    >>5813585
    Jesus Christ you sound like an uptight bitch
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)14:58 No.5814147
    I hate that so many obese women are getting into lolita, but then baaaw about the price of tiny clothing. If it doesn't fit go the fuck somewhere else. Don't use lolita as an escape to look cute, you're already disgusting as it is.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:06 No.5814162
    Split wigs are tacky as fuck.
    There are some fat girls who can pull of lolita.
    I wish there were more elegant lolitas out there.
    Pastel dresses, especially Angelic Pretty, are some of the most ita dresses ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:11 No.5814189
    >>5814162
    Ita =\= not fitting your personal taste. Just because a dress is pastel clolored doesn't make it ita. You just don't like pastels.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:30 No.5814235
    >>5813457
    Well, Rocking Horse shoes are the only ones I usually don't like.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:05 No.5814407
    I hate it when fat chicks wear thick belts with their lolita to try and give themselves an imaginary waist line.

    YOU ARE FAT, DEAL WITH IT!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:07 No.5814417
    >>5813426
    IT REMINDS ME OF BACON.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:08 No.5814422
    >>5814407
    I hate it when any lady does this in lolita fashion since the belts never match. It's horrible and tacky.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:12 No.5814437
    >>5814422

    This too.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:13 No.5814441
    >>5814422
    Yeah it looks ugly.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:17 No.5814456
    >>5814407
    There's a lot of plus size "fashions" I can't fucking stand to see on bigger girls because it looks like shit.

    >overly loose or baggy clothes that make them look like potato sacks
    >animal print dresses
    >gaudy jewelry
    >neon leggings
    >moo moos
    >sleeveless dresses (sucks to see a girl want a pretty dress but then not want to get it because of her hammy arms)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:21 No.5814465
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    >>5813454
    Agree. I actually like dark hair with pastel sweet Lolita. (pic related)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:24 No.5814481
    >>5814456
    >pinup
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:24 No.5814483
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    >>5813696
    >penis / vagina print.
    my partner, I've found you once more
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:38 No.5814561
    >>5813696
    >>Those who think that one colour = perfect coord. I'm looking at your Gothic lolitas who just pile on the black.

    I don't get this either (same with having your hair match your outfits) and I wear mostly kuro coords. It's fine if that's what you like, but you shouldn't impose it on everyone else. I dress that way because I feel like accessories are the key points of my outfits and the black really makes them stand out. I also prefer to play with texture and shape rather than prints, so most of my dresses are solid. Now that my wardrobe is starting to get big enough I'm probably going to start experimenting since I love jewel tones. I definitely agree with you about the lack of green, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:45 No.5814598
    >>5813585
    >- Baby the Stars Shine Bright. The name of the brand is gramatically incorrect and every time I see it, it makes me want to climb up walls.

    I pretty much stopped here, because you clearly hate everything, and maybe me pointing this out isn't going to make you less angry at the world, but they're actually named after an Everything But The Girl album, and not really meant to be a complete thought. The album actually has a song on it called Little Hitler, which reminds me of you ;)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:48 No.5814613
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    I think we need more green and purple. Especially fond of the dark, rich, jewel tones, but anything is welcome.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:50 No.5814626
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    >>5814598
    Your comment to this girls 3 post rant made my day.

    Have a kitty surrounded by crazy flowers. I love you Anon.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:52 No.5814635
    >>5814481
    I think sailor pinup looks really good on plus size girls, but other than that, yeah. Because everything else just looks cheap and tacky.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:54 No.5814644
    For those of you wanting the jewel tones and other colours... there are actually quite a few. You just have to look for them, but they are around.

    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:56 No.5814655
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    >>5814644
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:57 No.5814663
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    >>5814655
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:09 No.5814705
    >>5814655
    That shade of green is pretty much my favourite colour, so that just made my day.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:09 No.5814708
    I hate sweet lolita. It makes me picture adult babies.

    sorry.

    I also hate knee high socks on chubby pink legs, although that's not an unpopular opinion. But I see it way too much.

    I also hate wigs. especially blonde, shiny ones, unnatural color ones,

    big ugly head eating bows..

    Long diamond jingly jangly earrings with lolita, and big elaborate necklaces. Overdoing the accessories.

    I enjoy gothic lolita when it's done well.

    Tacky crosses, skull hair clips, bat bags, fishnets, neon hair, bright pink x black, arm warmers, stripy horizontal socks, and coffin shaped things, however, really need to stay somewhere else with lolita altogether in my opinion.

    pigtails

    anything overly kawaii uguu. That includes stupid cupcake accessories with faces on it and all that stuff.

    fat lolitas. loud lolitas. lolitas who use their LJ username or an alias instead of a real name.

    lolitas who's life revolves around lolita and who only make friends with other lolitas because of lolita.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:10 No.5814718
    I hate wigs. I'm a sweet lolita myself, but I can't stand wigs. So many have so much hair it looks like the person is trying to be a lion. Split wigs are just stupid. Most everyone that does a split wig makes their entire outfit out of those two colors. Add a damn accent color. I don't hate natural wigs, but I still dislike them. I want to see more natural hair with sweet.

    I love AP uguu pastel pastel vomit, giant bows, and purses in the shape of things. I like to look silly in lolita so this is all for me.

    I don't think you need big hair to balance a big bow or big dress.

    I don't care about originality. I like what I like, and I don't care if it's been seen a hundred million times. It's what I want to wear.

    I like to buy the entire set of a series. Maybe I'll add a couple things different, but I don't like to think up original ways to wear my clothes.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:12 No.5814725
    >>5814598
    You do realise this is an 'unpopular lolita opinions' thread, right? Meaning that if she wasn't going to post her rant on here, where else would she post it? You actually came in here expecting to not be offended by anything?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:12 No.5814726
    I really dislike how corset lacing on blouses looks when worn with a skirt and not hidden under a JSK. Waist ties look so much nicer.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:12 No.5814727
    those babydoll dresses that meta loved for ages have a really high waist and make everyone look pregnant. NOPE

    seeing those 'kawaii sweets' macaroon whipped cream hand made accessories on every single girl's finger and glued onto every phone and every hand held mirror and ipod and earring.

    I like em, but they're everywhere, it's too much..
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:13 No.5814730
    I hate creepy-cute. It's not even the look I hate, it's how people decided to turn it in to it's own style. It's just sweet with halloween themes, might as well call food themed outfits cakey-desu lolita, or rabbit themes bunny-sweet.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:16 No.5814738
    >>5814718

    haha yeah. I'm not into sweet at all and I feel alienated at meets, but I still enjoy seeing girls go all out and express themselves with the fashion, it's funny and cute
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:18 No.5814745
    >>5814708
    You sound like a really boring person.
    What -do- you like?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:21 No.5814754
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    >>5814745
    It's a hipster lolita, they don't like anything. Too mainstream now. And what they do like...You've never heard of.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:22 No.5814759
    >>5814456
    There's a lot of stupid fat girl fashions, but I disagree on the baggy stuff. I'd much rather have a fat girl wearing an empire waist tarp-shirt than a roll-hugging fitted one, even if it's just the lesser of two evils. It would be impossible to make shirts that nicely fit all the different degrees of fat and shapes.

    Makes me wish tailors were used for more than just weddings and proms, really. That would solve everything.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:24 No.5814762
    I hate how it's so unacceptable to tell a badly-dressed plus-sized lolita that she's badly dressed simply because of their weight. I mean, there's rarely a problem if someone criticizes a slim or medium-sized girl for what they're wearing, but the minute you say something to a fat girl BAM you're the devil incarnate.

    :/
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:27 No.5814768
    >>5814762
    >tell a badly-dressed plus-sized lolita that she's badly dressed simply because of their weight
    >badly dressed simply because of their weight

    what do you expect fatties to wear, XXL potato sacks? jw
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:28 No.5814776
    >>5814768
    The wording seems off, but I think they meant to imply it's unacceptable because of their weight, not that they're badly dressed because of their weight.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:29 No.5814777
    >>5814759
    >big baggy sack
    or
    >tight fitting hooker wear

    Can't there ever just be a happy medium? Why can't there just be a chubby girl that gets clothes that fit AND flatter the figure? Jeez.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:30 No.5814778
    >>5814776
    yeah I think fatties can look good if they dress for their size and shape by going for offbrand and actually having it made to fit their measurements, not trying to cram themselves into a partially shirred pastel disaster.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:30 No.5814779
    >>5814768
    Something that doesn't draw attention to and accentuate every single problem area.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:31 No.5814781
    >>5814745

    I like classic lolita. muted colors, browns, navy, cream, antique white, dark red.

    I love velvet.

    Long pea coats with double buttons, thick lace, none of that thin chemical scratchy stuff. I think pink works well when it's pale or muted.

    High waisted skirts that you can pull in and tie, and makes a gorgeous shape.

    Long sleeves that go past the knuckle and show just the fingertips.

    French manicures in natural colors, tidy nails. (nothing too overloaded, although nail accessories can be cute)

    I love long, natural wavy hair with lolita, plaits, side buns. Attractive shoulder length cuts.

    I like OTK socks and tights, I prefer it to leg showing.

    Shiro lolita and kuro lolita. Tasteful accessories and prints. I like clocks and alice bands.

    brushed gold accessories are also gorgeous. I love anything. Pearls, roses

    These are all popular opinions so I doubt I should really be posting this, but there ya go.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:33 No.5814790
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    I'll be honest and say it's probably tact that makes it hard to do this. I swear though most probably know what they're dressing in is unflattering and just want to be pretty as everyone else. But there are ways to get around bringing up weight without having to make it just about weight.

    You can talk about better cuts that will flatter her figure, brands that would cater to her size... ect. Use discretion and tact and I'm sure everything will be ok, or at least the blow would be lighter.

    I'm saying this as a person who at a more fragile time in her life was told flat out that they were too fat for a dress by a "friend". Oddly enough, who was bigger than me who owned the same dress.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:35 No.5814797
    >>5814777
    There can't be a happy medium because it's not how clothes manufacturers work, they go by average sizes and shapes. The happy medium comes from going to a tailor to get it in the right size.

    Unless you mean specific cuts of clothing, but then according to "fashion experts" the shitty empire waists are supposed to be for chubby people, so I have no idea there. I guess wait out the horrible fashions and keep wearing older things/things from overseas until the "gaudy print tarp with giant waist belt" thing goes away.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:36 No.5814804
    >>5814790
    fatty on the left is cute, but when you're that big i've noticed lower neck cuts flatter a lot better
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:42 No.5814824
    I miss headdresses. It's sort of an unfashionable thing now, unless you're an ita. They look terrible on 90% of people, but they look great on a select few. They bring back memories for me~

    that being said, I used to be really into bonnets, until I realized how riddiculous they look on most people aside from the very rare exception
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:45 No.5814841
    Blouses/cutsews over the skirt. Even if they're ruffled at the bottom. It makes the waist completely undefined and offsets the poof from the petti. Like the two girls here >>5814790
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:49 No.5814855
    >>5814841
    Ah, I feel the exact opposite.

    Some people look really good with blouses tucked in, but I think a lot of times the blouse ends up looking stuffed or puckered under the skirt when tucked in. I rather see an untucked blouse if it's finished on the bottom (like with ruffles or what not) and have a smooth look than a tucked in one that's puckered or overly tight looking.

    If it's unfinished tuck that sucker in though.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:56 No.5814871
    >>5814824

    That feel about headdresses.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:58 No.5814876
    >>5814446

    Thus why I dieted down from 170 to 115 before even trying on my first blouse... If you are gonna spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on the fashion, why not work on your body a bit first to make sure the clothes look good on you?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:59 No.5814880
    >>5814841
    >>5814855


    I think it depends on the shape; tiny waists look great with blouse over skirt (especially if the blouse is fitted or can be pulled in)

    girls with large boobs shouldn't tuck the blouse in, it can draw attention to the chest and look out of proportion. I always think sometimes, blouse tucked in can make the skirt ride up too high and give the impression of a big stomach, too.

    It looks good with petite, flat chested girls though, it's flattering, especially if it's a high waited skirt that pulls in.

    I personally think larger ladies should stick to blouse under jsk, or onepiece.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:59 No.5814883
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    I agree with this. I think in her case a better supporting bra that would give her bust more structure and shape would do wonders.

    To the Anon that is worried about giving concrit to plus-sized girls, you could always mention a few tips that aren't related to weight. For example, for this girl I would suggest that she:

    -Have something in her hair, even if it's just a simple coordinating bow barrette or plastic headband.
    -Get a haircut to include a slightly thicker side bang with light layers to frame the face.
    -She should either style her hair to play up the frizz (see pic related) or style it to get rid of it. Some volume on the crown of her head would like nice, too. In the event that she goes with sleeker hair, a sort of hime-style bouffant would look nice.
    -I think she has a pretty cute face so some slightly-more-noticable-but-still-natural makeup would really bring that out, especially in photos. IMHO, the biggest improvement would be if she arched her brows a little bit more. I think that would open her face up a lot.
    -A cute, shorter necklace to draw the eye up to her face
    -A better-matching purse
    -Tights or bare legs and a pair of shoes with a delicate heel.

    She's probably a new Lolita and has a small closet, but she's pretty cute and I see a ton of potential.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:02 No.5814893
    I HATE Hello Kitty accessories with lolita. It didn't use to bother me that much, I mean, I like Hello Kitty... Just not with lolita.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:05 No.5814903
    Whenever I see fat lolitas wearing cake prints, I uncontrollably laugh a little inside

    I mean don't get me wrong, fatty chans can be cute, but cmon.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:05 No.5814908
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    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:06 No.5814910
    >>5814893
    OMG this. Same with Rilakkuma. Now I love Rilakkuma, but anything further than a cell phone case, wallet, bag charm, or scarf that the entire outfit isn't planned around is too much. I hate HK and Rilakkuma purses, hats, jewelry, themes dresses, and socks.

    It just brings the whole outfit down to weaboo level, or adult childrens wear.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:07 No.5814914
    >>5814908
    I hate most collabs that brands do.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:10 No.5814919
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    >>5814914
    boo
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:12 No.5814931
    >>5813585
    How is BtSSB grammatically incorrect? Missing a comma? I don't understand.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:14 No.5814935
    >>5814883
    Speaking of stuff like this

    I wish Daily_Lolita was more like Everyday_Gyaru. Not in the "OMG LOLOL UR EYEBROWNZ SUCK QUUUURRRRL THOSE SHOES R UGLY NO OFFANSE. LOL ( * u * )" sense, though.

    I like that the members aren't shy about giving CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to posters, especially when they post tips, tutorials and alternatives.

    I would love to see Daily_Lolita having more of that kind of environment. Of course, if a poster is only looking for asspats, they can just put that they don't want any concrit.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:14 No.5814937
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    >>5814910
    >Implying lolita isn't already children's adult wear
    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:18 No.5814951
    >>5814937
    How many children have you seen dressed like that this week?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:19 No.5814952
    -I hate anime brand collabs.
    There goes the "It's not cosplay" argument.
    The only exception I make is for tiny things, like accessories/parasols. Non-clothing items. IF they're done subtly.

    -I hate meetups.
    Yay let's all sit around awkwardly apologizing for how socially awkward we all are, instead of just acknowledging that we're FINE, but going to a meetup is intentionally placing yourself in an awkward social situation.

    -I hate not being able to talk about brands.
    It's like, taboo or something now. Because you never know who's poor/"new" (clueless) in this luxury/niche fashion.

    -I hate having to be nice to people because of the internet.
    I don't exactly dream of being able to shout "Fuck off!" at people and push them over, but having to stand there, smiling, nodding, and wishing for death so some self-important dumbass will get to say her piece and *think I'm nice* (that is: won't get offended and then come on here and flame me) is more effort than it's worth.

    -I hate that Lolita is turning me into a shut-in.
    See all the points above.

    Excuse me, off to sever ties with my comm and pull an Emily Dickinson for the rest of my life.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:20 No.5814960
    >>5814937

    while lolita fashion is generally youthful, there is a difference between looking like a classy elegant lady and a little girl, or an adult in pink little girl clothes with ribbons and candies

    sweet can be done well in my opinion. The girl in the pic is adorable and proof of that. It's just not my taste, and a lot of it is tacky and sometimes screams 'I wish I were eight again'
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:22 No.5814973
    >>5814951

    it's the 'little girl' stereotype, dressing like a little girl's dolly. It's not actually what little girls wear. It can look kinda pantomine sometimes, actually.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:24 No.5814977
    >>5814952
    dat meetup feel
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:25 No.5814978
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    >>5814951
    Not for everyday little girl wear but I have seen little girl Sunday dresses which resemble lolita in the cut and sometimes in the detailing.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:27 No.5814984
    I absolutely despise sweet lolita. Too many colors and people think that just throwing a shitload of ugly things together will make it look better.
    Newsflash, fuck off.

    If things are kept simple-ish, in terms of lolita, then it looks elegant (God forbid anything of this board looks ELEGANT, EGL).
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:29 No.5814995
    >>5814984
    Complaints like this cause me to hate the phrase "elegant gothic and lolita" and much prefer just the word "lolita". I'd much rather the fashion be about the style of the clothing rather than forcing elegance upon it which would disqualify a lot of sweet lolita which, while still looking cute and having the lolita silhouette, I would not qualify as elegant.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:31 No.5815007
    >>5814977
    I know, man. I'm perfectly capable of chatting away to most people (I mean look at me go! We're talking, amazing!) but I'd kinda limited myself to meetups the past few months, and was honestly starting to believe myself to be a little autistic or something.
    Then I hung out for an evening with a mixed-gender group of people who just accept how I dress and make nothing of it... and it was smashing! I made jokes, I passed compliments, I said stuff about authors and director and art that I'd forgotten I even knew. I was socially adept!

    But meetups, christ.
    Am I sitting right?
    Did I do the tea thing correctly?
    Would I offend so-and-so if I ask where she got her dress?
    Is this the girl who likes anime or the one who hates it, because she's wearing a different wig this time and I may be confusing her with someone else...?
    *stomachknots*
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:31 No.5815010
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    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:33 No.5815013
    >>5814978
    That looks nothing like a lolita dress to me, it just looks like a kids' dress.
    I'm starting to think you can only see the differences if you're into lolita. It seems obvious to me but so many people don't see it.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:34 No.5815017
    >>5814995
    I'm not saying it has to be elegant.
    I'm just saying I hate sweet lolita and want the uber-complex shit to die. On an extremely rare occasion, I find a sweet lolita outfit to be nice, but this never happens when they have 300 trinkets falling out of their vagina.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:34 No.5815018
    >>5815007

    I get a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I remember back at the days I used to attend meets. Ugh.

    Forever a closet lolita. In fact, I sold 90% of my wardrobe and I've not put on a dress in 2 years. dark times
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:35 No.5815022
    I hate classic lolitas that act crotchety and boring like a real old lady. I mean, not all classic loli's are like that, but it seems there are alot of them.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:36 No.5815024
    >>5815013
    >I'm starting to think you can only see the differences if you're into lolita
    Well, there you go. Don't complain if people say you look like a little girl, if you're dressed as, what they see, a little girl. It's not that hard.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:36 No.5815027
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    >>5815013
    Can you tell me how the cut of that dress is different from that of a typical lolita OP? I recognize that the materials and detailing are crappy since most parents wouldn't be willing to invest in lolita level detailing in something their kid is just going to grow out of.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:38 No.5815035
    >>5815013

    Sweet lolitas have bleached my vision so much with their cupcake-on-steroid garish plastic-shitting obnoxious wig wearing neon pink minty pantomime-esque rays of terror that I can no longer tell the difference.

    It can be done right. Sometimes. The rest of the time it's actually so vile it's threatening. Especially when I see the clones march down the street in their cupcake vomit monstrosities.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:38 No.5815036
    >>5815013
    Looks pretty lolita to me.
    >> Helpful shopper person !!RFrXvqamlc7 05/08/12(Tue)18:39 No.5815045
    I don't mind if people call it a costume and I don't care if it looks "costumey".
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:40 No.5815051
    Awww yeaaayuh it's one of these threads

    - I fucking love Angelic Pretty, I don't care what anyone says. I love the prints, pastels, the colors, and the fact that it looks like a candy fairy clusterfuck is fine with me. I think OTT sweet is pretty, fun, and whimsical.

    - I really don't like those weird plush pony purses, it freaks me out when I see 6 year olds in the grocery store toting identical bags.

    - I can't stand fattychans who squeeze themselves into sweet prints. Jesus, it's just embarrassing to see photographs with the shirring all stretched out.

    - I love kuro but I feel like its almost a cop-out because all it is is black. I tried kuro but I hated it because I feel like you can't see the workmanship in the clothing

    - I hate pirate lolita. COSTUME. And steampunk lolita.

    - Fucking people, especially in my local comm, who dress is cosplay lolita and other stupid shit. We have so many weebs.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:41 No.5815053
    CLASSIC VS SWEET

    the war continues

    no seriously girls both styles have right and wrong, they can both look good and they can both look shit. Just be thankful that there ARE different styles, imagine if there was only one, god forbid, we'd all look the same and lolita would suck.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:42 No.5815060
    >>5815018
    Oh jesus. That sounds rough. If it's something you enjoy, you should still wear the clothes for yourself.

    But I've attended meetups in my local comm for near enough to three years now, and even though I love the younger girls dearly, there are external reasons why I just want to go solo and leave the scene.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:47 No.5815082
    I like pirate lolita :C I'll admit there are some really, really bad coords out there and I've seen so many terrible pirate lolis, it's untrue. But I enjoy it; I don't consider it a style of lolita though, more just like, an outfit with a theme. Same with steampunk, although I've not seen a single good steampunk outfit that can be considered fully lolita. And steampunk seems to be getting geekier and stupider by the day, which is a shame.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:51 No.5815103
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    ok

    now you guys stop being lame even the style is named LOLITA lolita is about dressing up as a little girl and if you people complain about being compared to REAL LOLITAS then stop dressing LIKE THEM
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:54 No.5815115
    Sometimes when I get really high, I put on the first 'lolita' outfit I ever owned, which is the biggest sweat shop lace monster known to man. I wear this thing with NO petti, and sometimes no underwear. Then I proceed to head out to my local indian takeaway in town, with cat ears on. When people ask what I'm wearing, I reply 'lolita cosplay'.
    You'll never stop me
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:58 No.5815136
    >>5815115
    Oh my goodness... my stomach hurts from laughter!
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:00 No.5815144
    Can the pastel goth creepy cute plastic bones bullshit fad please be over?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:02 No.5815150
    >>5815144
    not until you burn pastelcunt's wardrobe.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:03 No.5815154
    >>5815144

    Haha every time I think of this, I picture 'drawn on bones' around the mouth in eyeliner

    then I remember venus angelic's horrific vid
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:18 No.5815223
    >>5815115

    If I ever run into you, takeaway's on me. You sound like the best person ever!
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:25 No.5815265
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    I hate people who clip ponytail falls on to their base wigs.
    Get ponytail falls that match your natural hair and stick them one, sure... or just wear a wig that looks like nicely styled loose hair. BUT PLEASE GOD STOP WEARING THEM TOGETHER, it makes you look like... like... someone with a really tiny head. The proportions of your head and dress are just immense, and there's this tiny little face peering out.
    It's also a really stupid-looking hairstyle, imo. Like a cross between RuPaul and MisaMisa.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:28 No.5815281
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    I really hate that Sugary Bones JSK. First of all, WHY. Second of all, the first time I read saw the name, I read it as Sugary Boners.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:29 No.5815284
    >>5815281
    HAHA those look like upside down dicks.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:31 No.5815302
    >>5815281
    They do actually look like dicks on the dress since the skirt is gathered at the waist, making the top of the bones taper in rather than out.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:33 No.5815311
    My unpopular opinion? I hate go every time something gets popular, all of a sudden seagulls are like "I hate that _____ garbage vomit shit, can't it be done now, burn if with fire ughhhhhhh!!!!" These people are just as bad as the bandwagon followers that they hate with a passion, because theyre just jumping on the hate bandwagon like the insecure self validating loli hipsters they are.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:35 No.5815322
    If you don't look under 20, irregardless of your actual age, you look ridiculous in sweet lolita, without exception. Especially if you're fat. I feel a fair amount of second hand embarrassment when I see what appears to be a fully grown woman, with a matronly/mature woman face, stuffing her fat tits into what looks like a child's dress. Looks pathetic, like mentally retarded ageplay.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:37 No.5815331
    Fat chicks should be required to wear a corset. There's nothing more unattractive than seeing a fat belly bulge out.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:37 No.5815332
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    >>5815311
    So your ideal standpoint is indifference? Lolita trends tend to be really polarizing, because as soon as one thing becomes popular, it's all up in everyone's faces. Brands make what sells, and if you don't like it, you've little in the way of options. That can be frustrating... or the best thing ever, depending on your standpoint.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:39 No.5815345
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    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:42 No.5815367
    >>5815322
    Irregardless is not a word.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:43 No.5815370
    >>5815332
    Maintaining neutrality or at least keeping your bile contained to personal pages would be good. I understand that a new trend can become very dominant and it can be irritating, but whatever you like instead of it, you've got your wardrobe and decades of lolita clothing to enjoy your own preferences. No need to shit all over anyone who's excited about the new baby for the next couple of weeks or however long it's hyped for.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:46 No.5815387
    >>5815370
    I don't know why, but the combination of the words "shit all over the new baby" is just the funniest thing ever to me.
    I mean, imagine it taken out of the Opinionated Lolita context and just wat
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:46 No.5815391
    I think you need a young/pretty/sweet face to pull off Lolita well. There are obviously some very attractive women who wear Lolita, but don't pull it off because there face is too adult or something about their facial proportions doesn't work. I think this matters far more than body shape, size, height, etc.
    >> tea-raindrops !4wuIfkoxU. 05/08/12(Tue)19:48 No.5815397
    Lack of green dresses, fuck that.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:56 No.5815420
    >>5813923

    WHAT!? I need this in my life. Link? My google fu is lacking
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:00 No.5815431
    >>5815265
    Girls, please don't do this. At least the synthetic hair will all match. Clip ons will never exactly match your real hair, and real hair will look flat compared to the volume of the clip ons. It's just popular to hate on the twin tails right now, but if you're going to do it, you might as well go all out and wear it right.

    Fucking loli hipsters, I swear
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:02 No.5815437
    >>5815420
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=335910136468684&set=a.335902863136078.75694.3127279721202
    34&type=3&theater
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:05 No.5815453
    >>5815370
    So true.

    >>5815322
    What I like about aging is that you stop giving a shit about what others think. Seems like every year I care less and less about how I'm viewed.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:07 No.5815465
    >>5815437
    That dress looks amazing in person. If she starts doing lighter colors, I'll grab some of her dresses for casual wear.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:14 No.5815515
    I hate how incomplete girls look when they don't wear makeup or do their hair while they're in lolita... You don't need false lashes or a wig, but a little bit of eyeliner/lipgloss/mascara and a cute hairstyle can really help with the total look :/

    i'm okay with crossdressers and drag, but i don't like brolitas. i esp hate how much everyone coddles them.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:15 No.5815523
    >>5815431
    I cannot agree enough. I purchase human-hair extensions to wear on a daily basis, and I always have to tweak the color to get it to match my hair, but it takes a lot of effort. I don't think many girls would want to put forth that kind of work.

    Just wear the base wig and clip in falls. You'll look much better.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:17 No.5815533
    >>5815345
    omg i love his purse
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:18 No.5815536
    >>5815515
    on this subject
    i love this tutorial, so simple
    http://youtu.be/oGpLLWnO3XY
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:18 No.5815539
    >>5815332
    It's not indifference, it's just not acting like a spoiled teenage brat whenever something you don't like gets popular.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:21 No.5815551
    I actually really love steampunk lolita, but there really isn't enough GOOD steampunk lolita (I'm looking at you, hildekitten. Everything you wear is atrocious and gives steam-lolitas a bad name.)

    I also hate the untucked shirt with a skirt in lolita. It makes people look like they have no waist and 15 Ibs heavier.

    and casual lolita shouldn't exist. It always looks like they got lazy half way through getting dressed.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:25 No.5815575
    >>5815551

    this. I actually think steampunk lolita has a lot of potential, I'm waiting to be wowed by someone.

    to be honest though, the ONLY female steampunker I've ever seen do steampunk well in general is kato
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:55 No.5815725
    I hate how much of a popularity contest the community has become. Back when I started it seemed to be more about dressing up and having fun with the style. Now it just seems like everyone hopping on the same bandwagon and trying to out-do each other for "internet fame". You go on D_L and the popular girls all look the same. Whereas the less popular ones maybe look good, but the style is not with the current trends so they're seen as bad.

    I also fucking hate wigs with a passion. They've made people lazy about their hair. Even if you have unruly hair, there are smoothing and straightening treatments that can be done to it to make it manageable. Just use a bit of TLC and learn to style it instead of resorting to plastic shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:04 No.5815748
    Star wars/ Dr who/ Mario/ Geek lolita outfits... are just as bad, if not worse than lolified anime cosplay. At least the cosplayers come up with some original designs, and aren't just character on top, skirt on the bottom, or a *superhero* printed on a JSK.

    The community seems to just eat these outfits up when they come out. Tacky hipster bull crap.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:06 No.5815754
    I miss Loli-secret.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:13 No.5815770
    >>5815725
    There's a reason why the popular girls are popular. And no, you're not getting as many comments because your outfit is shitty or boring, not because it's "not in line with the trends"
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:13 No.5815773
    >>5815748
    I'm thinking it's more along the lines of two clashing themes that don't add up. I mean when brands do collabs with shows and junk they go with a theme and work with it. Prints just slap on a mario scene and call it good. If the print was worked around and turned into something more fitting with lolita aesthetics it wouldn't be so bad.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:17 No.5815782
    >>5815754
    http://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:19 No.5815786
    >>5815551
    I think her look is cute and technically falls under the "steampunk" category, but it doesn't fit lolita. I like her style as like a steampunk raggamuffin (don't think I spelled that right), but I don't think it should really be considered lolita.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:21 No.5815795
    >>5815782
    I don't know how people still don't know where secrets went to. Especially if they're on cgl since there's a post dedicated to it every week.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:42 No.5815858
    >>5815770
    Who said anything about myself? And no, I do not post on D_L if that's what you're thinking. What I was saying was from a purely observational standpoint. This thread is about opinions and I stated mine.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)21:48 No.5815884
    >>5815858
    Defensive there, eh?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)22:41 No.5816023
    There are only three substyles of lolita, the rest are themes. So sick of people going on about shit that barely exists like "mori lolita" or "qi lolita".
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)22:43 No.5816031
    I don't really care about meeting Lolita models or brand designers. Sure, it's kind of cool, but some people act like standing in the same room as Misako is the greatest thing that's ever happened to them.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)23:10 No.5816111
    >>5814931
    Baby the Stars Shine Brightly*

    Adverbs, how do they work?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)23:52 No.5816261
    I think that (good) indie brands have more of a right to charge high prices for their items than the brands do. People bitch when an indie dress costs as much as a brand one, but think about that for a minute. It costs very little for a brand to make a dress. They all reuse the same patterns, they're made in a factory by minimum-wage workers, and the materials are purchased at wholesale price. An indie designer has to pay retail price for her materials, draft her own patterns, and sew everything herself. She's just one person so she can only make one dress at a time, not dozens like a factory full of workers can. Indie designs are more exclusive, sometimes OOAK, whereas five people at a meet could be wearing the same AP print. When you buy an indie dress, you're paying for someones hard handiwork, talent, and years of practice. When you buy a brand dress, you're paying for a name.

    Of course I'm only referring to indie designers that produce items as good as or better than brand quality. Not the 10000 shitty seamstresses who call themselves a "brand".
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)23:54 No.5816265
    i actually LIKE bonnets
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)23:59 No.5816284
    I agree with you!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:05 No.5816311
    Most lifestyle lolitas are complete failure at the fashion and are only into the "lifestyle" to make up for the fact that they don't have a wardrobe and couldn't put together a decent coordinate to save their lives. Or they're complete n00bs who think that somehow being "lifestyle" will make everyone accept them as a true lolita princess desu, even though they go to meet ups in t shirts and jeans.

    Did anyone see that thread about wanting to become a full-time lifestyle lolita, oh and by the way how do I make a petticoat I don't own any dresses yet? Perfect example.

    Honesty, the best dressed lolitas I know are the ones that don't take it seriously at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:06 No.5816312
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    >>5816111
    >Complaining about a Japanese company having bad English

    Oddly enough, the ones you should be mad are is the English pop group that came up with the name.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:06 No.5816315
    >>5816284

    Sorry, that was a reply meant for the post on indie brand pricing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:07 No.5816320
    Honestly who gives a shit whether or not its ~*grammatically correct*~ or not?

    Angelic Pretty? What the fuck is that? Two adjectives strung together without modifying anything?

    Emily Temple Cute? Meaningless word salad.

    And although they may be incorrect, my French-speaking friends have said that Moi-même-Moitié and Metamorphose Temps de Fille aren't grammatically structured correctly either.

    I'm not all too concerned about how well a group of designers and fashion houses are able to string together a coherent sentence in a language that is not their own.

    I'll take my Fantasic Dolly and start a Revolutionary Revolution and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

    (This isn't aimed at you so much as it is the person who made the original comment, Anon. I can be anal about grammar too, but sometimes this gets on my nerves.)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:09 No.5816332
    >>5816312
    >mad are is
    gdi I need sleep.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:16 No.5816354
    >>5816261
    I think you're forgetting the marketing and events and costs of opening stores overseas for brand. Indie designers can buy wholesale or get their products produced for cheaper via Chinese retailers too... I am tired of indie designers thinking they are above good business practices... Why would I spend the same amount on your brand that is untested, no customer backing, when I can pay the same for something I know has customers behind it and high resale value among other things? You think brand stores started out at those prices (they may have had higher starting prices in the beginning due to supply and demand, which is another thing to consider, the market now is flooded with options)? In most business models you lose money for the first one or two years while you establish yourself. I'm not going to be guilted into paying those prices with those kinds of arguments. Welcome to the real world, people pay what they think it's worth, not what you tell them it is. And if you have no history, no one is going to feel comfortable shelling out 350 bucks for your jsk.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)00:33 No.5816402
    >>5816354
    Agreeing with everything in this. I think a lot of you who complain about the lack of indie love are also forgetting that there is a world of difference between some girl borrowing her mom's sewing machine to make dresses while she's home in Texas on spring break and an established business with brick and mortar stores in Japan.

    I wish these indie and offbrandwhores would get their heads out of their asses and realize that what other people do with their money is none of their goddamned business.

    And fuck that exclusivity argument, we're talking about lolita, not sweaters and mittens and Walmart vs. Etsy crap. I could wear Twinkly Space Marshmallow or whatever print that everyone absolutely has to have at the moment every single day for a year and never even run into anyone in real life who even knows what it is.

    Do you know what's exclusive? The fact that I've come across about 3 indie seamstresses who are on par with brand quality, and only one of them is open for commission more than a month in the summer when they have time.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)01:00 No.5816511
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    >>5816354
    You don't even have to get your fabric from China, there are lots of US shops that do wholesale bolts of fabric. The only thing that's going to be expensive is custom printing, but if you go to a place that's not Spoonflower a lot of them have discounts for designers and students, who obviously would be looking for more than a few couple of yards of fabric. If you have a business you look for what's going to work the best for you, research upon research before you sell.

    Indie designers on a whole lack the knowledge of business management that's why you've got people thinking they can charge $150 for a prototype elastic banded skirt.

    >>5816402
    Quality comes in all places, which seems to be what the indie designer and off brand people tend to not understand. People buy brand because it has a reputation first foremost. The exclusivity and price tag come with that established quality. I have nothing against indie designers but when you're charging outrageous prices for a simple construction just because you've made it from a print you've designed. It doesn't mean you can slap on a $345 price tag on it "because brands do it".
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)03:31 No.5817108
    >>5816402
    I find that ridiculously sad since brand quality isn't even that high - it's just what you'd expect from a decent clothing store anywhere. There's no fancy finishing techniques or anything involved with making brand clothing.

    Unpopular opinion (although actually a fact): that brand quality is actually pretty average on the scale of clothing quality. It's not shit tier walmart, but it's not ~*couture*~ or god tier like some people seem to think
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)03:38 No.5817127
    >What are your unpopular opinions about lolita?

    That I think it looks like shit to have grown women dress like babies.

    Not my fetish, sorry.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)03:55 No.5817185
    >>5817108
    kinda ironic, because real tailored suits and couture don't serge their seams. And according to the community, that is the sign of a quality "finished" garment.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:03 No.5817199
    >>5817185
    Yeah, people don't get that serging=/=quality garment. There are decent quality garments that are serged, yes, but there are shitty garments that are also serged. Couture is like a whole different ballpark because it's about the time and hand-finishing, whereas the quality point for a mass manufacturer (like lolita brands) is entirely different...which is why I lol so much whenever someone talks about couture quality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:04 No.5817202
    >>5817185
    That is because ready to wear is serged. So they see that as a mark of professionalism.
    >>5817108
    Truth, that is why I didn't mention quality in my response. I agree, you are paying for the name and the history, not actual fabric quality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:11 No.5817220
    >>5817202
    Or construction^
    You have to also realize, tailoring is a dying skill, the people who appreciate it are far more outnumbered by those who have no idea. This includes indie designers....most of them wouldn't know about pad stitching a lapel or how to do a proper welt pocket.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:16 No.5817226
    >>5817220
    Probably one of the main reasons you don't run across indie designers who do blouses or coats very often.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:21 No.5817233
    I hate the label "lolita" it has such negative connotations and makes me uncomfortable when explaining it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)04:48 No.5817274
    I... really don't like most things with prints, i feel that they spoil the dress.

    If prints are necessary i think silk printing is much better than direct printing.

    I hate that my EGL community thinks my outfits are too plain because i got into more authentic period styles with modern tweaks.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)05:10 No.5817309
    >>5814893
    I feel bad about this, but the only purse I have has Hello Kitty on it. When I wear lolita, I use it because it at least matches color-wise most of the time. Just as I was planning to get a few matching purses and bags, I came to a point where I can no longer spend any income on the fashion and have put buying new pieces on hold.

    That, and I got it from my little sister as a Christmas present and I don't have the heart to not use it. Forgive me, anon!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)05:49 No.5817350
    >>5817226
    I find it sad that people call themselves "seamstresses" and "indie designers" and have an "indie label" but can't make a blouse to save themselves. I understand choosing not to sell blouses because there's no profit in them, but to not have the basic skillset to be able to construct one and then taking money for commissions...

    also, fashion-incubator has the best welt pocket tutorial.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)07:03 No.5817424
    >>5817350
    >that feel when you like to make welt pockets
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)07:32 No.5817461
    >>5817274
    >authentic period styles with modern tweaks.
    The fact that you didn't just call it "old-school lolita" makes me thing you're not wearing lolita. Maybe neo-victorian or something which isn't lolita. There's a girl in my comm that wears neo-victorian. I kind of hate it
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)09:40 No.5817609
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    I really like blackxwhite.

    I like meetups at tea houses.

    I want to be a lifestyle lolita.

    But I also think you can be "lifestyle" and do unladylike things.

    I secretly don't want to have kids because I don't want to have to be responsible for them and make sacrifices. I'll have them anyway because my husband wants them and I'm sure I'll love them to pieces when I do eventually have them but if they judge me for wearing lolita I'm going to kick them out of the house. Yes, my hypothetical unborn children.

    it's ok, I have a couple more years before we do the kid thing. You can say I'm a bad person and shouldn't have kids, you're entitled to your opinion, i won't get mad.

    I really like creepy cute and tumblr waif hipster shit. I know I'm too old to do ombre hair though.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)10:05 No.5817664
    >>5816312
    I'm not complaining, it doesn't personally bother me. I was just responding to someone asking why it was incorrect.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)11:36 No.5817829
    >>5815311
    >having an opinion = OMG INSECURITY!!!

    goddammit /cgl/, is that your explanation for everything?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)12:49 No.5817998
    I hate when lolita travels down that slippery slope into trashy/disgusting land. Like when you can see people's bra straps sticking out or their dress is all wrinkled. Fat bulges that ruin the silhouette of lolita. Poorly designed tattoos. Not taking the effort to make sure the lace is lying properly and not tucked into some elastic somewhere. Petti slips and lumps. Splotchy pimpled face and/or body. Ill-fitting wigs that are frizzy and slide back on the head. If you have greasy gross hair, at least find a nice hat or something. If you have a flaw, lolita is the perfect excuse to cover it up.

    Similarly I also dislike when girls think it's enough to buy an expensive dress and wear some gross ballet flats that have been warped and scuffed to death. Fat lolitas tend to be guilty of this in particular. Not all ballet flats are bad but they at least should look new and be visually interesting. Improper legwear like stretched out solid color socks from Wal-Mart. Flimsy "cute" bags from children's stores like Claires.

    Because sweet is all about piling crap on, it has more of a tendency to look messy than other styles. There are some OTT pros out there but simply done sweet looks so much better in my opinion.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)13:00 No.5818027
    >>5817998
    When fat/chubby girls wear the right shoes with a little heel and rounded toe and it makes their legs look like sort of soft, long triangles, sort of super-deformed the way little chibi drawings do, it's the cutest thing ever.

    When *anybody* wears ugly old payless ballet flats and stomps around with their flippers flapping on the ground, it makes me want to puke.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)13:06 No.5818045
    >>5817108
    neither is a lot of high end stuff. Vivienne westwood, my god. I mean nothing's perfect

    it's all a lot better made than high street stuff
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)13:09 No.5818059
    So many lolis are all about Marie Antoinette. Ooooh it's SUCH a great film, it's SO loli! *changes facebook name to Jane Marie Antoinette!*

    Well, I saw it last night just to see what the fuss was about and it's SHITE. It's the worst two hours I've ever spent, and the worst film I've ever seen, barring Human Centipede 2.
    It's just a woman spending a lot of money and not having sex.

    OH WAIT A SEC
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)13:11 No.5818068
    I think fatty-chans can look good in lolita, I like gothic lolita (come on, there are so many gothic lolitas who aren't itas), I hate creepy-cute, and I hate going out and doing Asian things in my frills for the sake of doing Asian things. Also I hate how lolitas complain about how Meta's March of the Ducks print looks to ageplayish when EVERYTHING ELSE THEY WEAR looks like ageplay already. Besides, ducks are adorable.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.5818699
    Lolita is not a luxury fashion. 700$ for a complete outfit is not exspensive... 400-1100$ for a Gucci belt is exspensive.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:00 No.5818710
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    Gingham dresses. They just make me think of Primary school dresses. See pic.
    Also, I hate people going on about how 'small' brand is. You don't have to be unhealthily thin to fit in it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:06 No.5818729
    >>5818710
    Depends on your frame and overall body shape.

    I will never have a waist under 70cm or a bust around 82cm.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:01 No.5818988
    >>5818699
    It's still a luxury item. Might not be high-end, just low or medium, but it's still a luxury.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:20 No.5819094
    is every self made lolita automatically an ita or do there also exist good ones?
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    >>5819094
    There exists good ones. Iiralina, regardless of her personality, makes amazing gothic outfits. Pic very related.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:28 No.5819129
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    >>5819119
    Lizchen is another amazing seamstress.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:33 No.5819158
    >>5819119

    Isn't she just replicating moitie designs?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:37 No.5819182
    >>5819158
    Not all her stuff.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:55 No.5819289
    I never had an interest in shoes or bags at all until I started getting into lolita, and I'm still very new. I really like tea parties and mary janes but I'm wondering if I'm going to think they're ita once I become more knowledgeable about shoes and stuff. Before lolita I mostly wore dirty old sneakers and flip-flops, and the only kind of lolita-ish shoes I have right now are a pair of brown tea parties from Bodyline and a pair of black ballet flats. I guess from reading this thread that ballet flats aren't acceptable, though... I need better shoes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:01 No.5819319
    >>5819289
    Bodyline shoes work if you are in a pinch for money.
    Secret Shop makes great shoes too, just at like, more than half the cost of the real things.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.5819341
    >>5819319
    Secret Shop actually costs a bit less than half of the actual shoes
    Right now, Baby is having a 50% off footwear sale.
    Grab them!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:19 No.5819404
    I don't mind itas, as long as they're reasonable people. In fact, they're sometimes the sweetest and friendliest girls out there.

    I think most long-sleeved OP's look kind of silly. The sleeves (especially detachable ones) just don't flatter the arms well. I do love the elbow length and 3/4 ones though, like Mary Magdalene does.

    I think more modern pieces, like a nice, clean, tailored oxford shirt, or a blazer instead of a cardigan, totally have a place in lolita. Some brand blouses, with their shirring and ruffly fluffly stuff just don't flatter girls well, or are really only well-suited for hiding under a JSK. And I think your clothing pieces should have more than one purpose. So, well-tailored pieces sometimes do the job better, in my opinion.

    I really like my comm. They're totally non-judgmental, and while we do some weeby stuff, it's definitely not all we do. And it's never really stuffy, pinky-out tea parties. Not their speed at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.5819489
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    >>5819094

    There are some good indie designers and hand made goods.
    Pic related : Saved this off il Sangue's tumblr, I think it's one of the few things she made for herself? I never see her wearing her own stuff.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.5819505
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    >>5819489

    Yeah, I think she sells pretty much everything she makes. She did post this one on daily_lolita, though. It's kind of sad, I never see any of her customers post, and I really want to see her stuff on people.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:24 No.5819729
    I hate:
    >tea party shoes
    >that really cheap, shiny patent leather
    Doesn't matter whether it's shoes, purses, or accessories. Black especially makes me rage.
    >circle lenses
    >mint x lavender
    I actually like mint x pink, and I like blue x lavender. But something about mint x lavender makes my stomach churn.
    >MmM's alchemy print
    It looks like really bad clip art
    >Any thing with teddy bears on it
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:29 No.5820123
    >>5819729
    >Any thing with teddy bears on it
    Tiferet, is that you?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:50 No.5820217
    >>5820123

    Actually, no. I pretty much just lurk the main comms.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:10 No.5820306
    >>5819505
    I'm the girl she made the awesome nautical set for. I've worn her things in public, but rarely take photos, I'm afraid. Her quality is impeccable, though. She's been working for a bridal company for some time as an intern/dressmaker, so her techniques have taken on an all new level of professionalism.

    I've commissioned her for a burgundy chiffon dress next (after she finishes what she's working on to send to Frill) and a few other pieces that are still in the works; love her stuff.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:45 No.5820485
    I think it's okay for moms and older women to wear lolita. Not that I always think they look perfect in it, but hell, they can afford it better than I can. Plus, I think everyone needs a hobby or indulgence that makes them happy and keeps them sane in their day-to-day life. There's a woman in my comm who was dressed in head-to-toe AP when I met her. Later, she was in a t-shirt and jeans, pulling her hair into a ponytail to take her son to Sea World. I was impressed.

    I think that wearing tights/socks/lolita legwear with peep-toe shoes on is awkward looking. I just don't like it. It reminds me of socks and sandals.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:37 No.5820692
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    >>5820306

    YOU OWN THIS?! You, anon, have all of my envy. All of it.

    Please post pictures some time, so I can live through your wardrobe.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:26 No.5821740
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    >>5820692
    Yup! haha

    Here, anon. This is a coordinate I came up for the skirt. The weather was too hot to wear it when it came, so I'm planning to use it for my next big meet-up.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:32 No.5821747
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    >>5821740
    The first haul. She still has a skirt, vest and underbust JSK she's working on for me to send (on top of the chiffon dress).

    The apple print skirt is just a basic gathered skirt, but I love it for swing dance classes and casual outfits. It makes me wish I had green or yellow shoes...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:53 No.5821768
    >>5821740

    Nice coord!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:01 No.5821779
    >>5821740
    My vital organs have been replaced with jelly bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:04 No.5821783
    >>5821740
    Where is that blouse from? This coordinate is GORGEOUS
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    >>5821779
    Thanks! I pretty much bought that bustier just to go with the skirt. It seemed too perfect.


    >>5821768
    It's Anna House blouse 016-1183
    http://annahousefashion.com/016-1183.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:57 No.5822165
    >>5821740

    HNNNNNG

    I love how easily that fabric goes with so many colors.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:41 No.5822290
    Getting back on topic, my most unpopular opinion is probably that I don't like socks. Some people can look cute, but I just personally hate wearing them with Lolita, and they don't look flattering on anyone with larger calves. I've been trying to build a collection of nice tights and stockings, because they look much more flattering, but it's so hard to get more than your basic solid colors. Sigh.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:47 No.5822508
    I don't understand the need to explain lolita to people who don't know about the fashion. If a stranger asks about your outfit, do you really need to do this? Why can't people simply state they like dressing this way rather than go on about the history, Japan and all the supposed back story on their fucking clothes?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:51 No.5822525
    >>5822508

    When I dress sweet, and people ask I tell them I'm a princess.
    When I dress classic, and people ask, I tell them I'm a princess.

    Why is that so hard lolitas?

    DO THIS: "Thank you, it's just a different fashion."
    NOT THIS: "OH BAKA GAIJIN THIS IS HARAJUKU FASHION CALLED LOLITA FROM JAPAN"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:55 No.5822538
    >>5822525
    I say, "It's a Japanese street fashion."
    If they're truly interested in conversation about it, I'd love to engage, but if I don't think that's the case, even if their repsonse is, "Oh like Katy Perry/Harajuku Girls/Bo-Peep/Halloween/etc," I just say... "Yes."
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:56 No.5822544
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    >>5822525
    >When I dress sweet, and people ask I tell them I'm a princess.
    >When I dress classic, and people ask, I tell them I'm a princess.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:00 No.5822566
    >>5822544

    I hope you take lolita as serious business too, like everyone else does.

    Have a little fun with the fashion
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:01 No.5822570
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    My opinion is I dislike people who buy either replicas or bodyline. I have more respect for people who rather make their own clothes or mix offbrand pieces in their coordinates, rather than be LOL IM POOR I DONT WANNA SPEND ALOTTA MONEY ON BURANDO LOLOL
    And I also hate how people seem to think that japanese event/restaurant/store=OMG LYK LETS HAVE A MEET THAR
    No, I'd rather go out to a nice restaurant, cafe, museum, or even just a nice stroll in the park. I also hate that everything has to be lolita related desu~ No, just because I wear the fashion, doesn't mean I like kawaii shit 24/7. Also, if your personality is only being a special snowflake edgy kawaii lolita sugary princess, then you're a one-dimensional delusional twat that needs to learn to get a real life.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:20 No.5822648
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    I hate all you lolitas who think they're better than a lolita who is primarily an /a/non. Just because we dress the same doesn't mean I have to have similar hobbies to the rest of you but why is it that my hobby being /a/ related suddenly makes me inferior?

    Perhaps not unpopular but it depresses me to see the amount of secrets talking about how they hate lolitas that like anime.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:21 No.5822658
    >>5822570
    But what about people who buy replicas because:
    a) that print is sold out everywhere/price is scalped so high
    b) can't fit into brand so get custom sized replica of print they want?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:22 No.5822660
    It depresses me to see the amount of lolis who take secrets seriously and think that they aren't almost all written by trolls.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:24 No.5822664
    >>5822648
    God this pisses me off too, then they come to conventions and snub everyone off. I've even read crap that lolitas who were into anime can never be as well dressed as people who got into the fashion through other outlets. But that was a lolita secret but it still pissed me off.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:24 No.5822665
    >>5822658
    Different anon
    a) that print is sold out everywhere/price is scalped so high
    Simple solution, buy a different print. One they can afford and find.

    b) can't fit into brand so get custom sized replica of print they want?
    This has a simple solution too, get a custom sized piece that isn't a replica.

    Problem solved. There's no real reason to buy a replica other than they want an expensive looking dress but don't want to pay for it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:28 No.5822681
    >>5822570
    >I'm poor and don't want to spend money on the dress
    >puppet circus
    Sorry but I'm not poor I'm just not an idiot who will drop over a grand of money on something I know I would have to get adjusted and that's been used.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:29 No.5822686
    >>5822525
    Haha, I sort of do this, too. I get a lot of "where are you from?" I just tell them "the moon". If you're going to ask a dumb question...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:30 No.5822689
    >>5822538
    I also say "japanese street fashion", but many people ask for a more specific name, I always wonder why it's important how it's called... sometimes I think, they now it's Lolita and they just want to be confirmed...

    Unpopular opinions:
    - I think whimsical vanilla chan is one of the ugliest prints ever made... I would love a dress with cute kittens, but this kittens are just scary!

    - I think most of the Moité Dresses look cheap. Especially the ones with photo prints. There are some pretty dresses but most things look just boring

    -I hate plateau shoes. I'm not that tall but I feel like a giant in plateau shoes. Far away from cute and elegant!

    - I love the secrets, I'm waiting for them every week :) (maybe not unpopular? But nobody would admit it in real life I guess...)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:33 No.5822696
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    >>5822658
    a) Mainly they are just too lazy to search auctions for their wanted dress. Do you think those of us who buys brand have money shooting out of our asses? No, I save up my money to either reserve a dress I really adore, or I have to look through the auctions until one comes up at a reasonable price. This is what everyone did before replicas started becoming popular, so those who make excuses just sound lazy to me. We all work hard to find the dress we want, so why do people have to bring up this excuse?

    b) I love this excuse, because most often people who buy replicas can fit into brand, they are just too cheap to buy the real dress. And for those who can't, they can suck it up and either get it tailored to fit them, lose some weight to fit into them, or just move on and buy a different dress. I have friends who are bigger than me, but they still find brand dresses that fit them and make them look gorgeous, or they just get a dress custom-made. It looks so much better to get something that fits your body rather than trying to squeeze into a dress that's too small.

    Also to those who only buy replicas, have fun with your cheaply made shit, and also good luck trying to attend a brand hosted tea party.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:37 No.5822716
    I do have fun with my cheaply made shit. I wear replicas when I'm going somewhere where I'm afraid I'll get my brand dirty or damaged. It's nice to not have to worry.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:38 No.5822718
    >>5822681
    >Wah, I can't get one of the rarest dresses in lolita, so I'll just buy a replica and shit in the face of the brand.

    Meanwhile, I have the Juliette et Justine Crucifixion dress. And guess what? I got in a lucky pack. So you can suck it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:42 No.5822739
    I own primarily off brand, handmade, indie, and bodyline.
    I couldn't be more happy with my closet, one day i'll own brand, but until then i'll keep spending my money on fabric.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:55 No.5822787
    >>5822716
    You're still wearing a $70 poorly sewn piece of flimsy cotton. I fail to see how this is a better option than just wearing a $30 bodyline or taobao dress.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:55 No.5822788
    >>5822718
    Like I really care what you have. You're really just a child about the situation. Who cares what other people should or shouldn't buy and the ramifications behind it. Look at your reaction you're just at big child whose pissed off that some people don't want to spend money like you do.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:01 No.5822807
    >>5822788
    I think the point is that people pull a lot of bullshit excuses out of their ass about their justifications for buying shitty replicas and then act like it's other people's faults that they were forced to buy them in the first place. Because, you know, the only 2 possible options for wearing lolita are $600 rare AP prints and the $75 shitty replicas that are pumped out of them.

    No one ever fesses up and just says they want a popular print without spending a lot. It's always the brand's fault for making the sizes too small, or other lolita's faults for pricing their sales too high.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:05 No.5822825
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    >>5822788
    I'm not mad at all. It's just funny how many excuses people make up for buying replicas. By all means, keep buying them. I don't give a shit that you're wasting money on lesser quality clothing. Oh, yes, I'm being such a child about it. Is that really the best thing you can come up with? Also, I probably spend less money on brand than most people do on replicas. I only buy a dress once every couple of months or even twice a year. Oh no, look at all the reckless spending I'm doing!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:10 No.5822843
    catching the end of this debate, I wear offbrand and I don't give a fuck

    as long as it's not an ugly dress with shit lace, who really gives one.

    lolita shouldn't just be for rich girlies, I'd choose an attractive lolita in a nice offbrand dress over a fat fuck in burando any day.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:11 No.5822848
    >>5822843
    No one actually gives a fuck that you wear offbrand. I don't know a single lolita who doesn't wear offbrand.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:13 No.5822856
    >>5822848

    then whaaaats the issue here

    I thought this was an unpopular opinion thread, am I wrong?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:15 No.5822869
    >>5822856
    Wearing offbrand isn't an unpopular opinion anymore than confessing to wearing tights is.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:19 No.5822880
    >>5822869
    alrighty then, here are some unpopular opinions of mine

    I personally think 90% of lolita looks bad
    head eating bows
    fatty chans
    wigs
    pink x red
    rocking horse shoes (they sometimes look ok)
    weeby weebs
    lolita meets. AWKWARD
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:20 No.5822883
    How about people learn to not worry about what someone chooses to do with the money they earn.

    Don't like replicas? Great! Shut up.

    Like replicas? Great! Shut up.

    People are going to do what they want whether you approve or not.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:24 No.5822894
    >>5822696
    I agree with the b. I'm not fat, but I'm into some old AATP and their sizes are tiny. My ultimate dreamdress is one of those dresses and I just suck it up and buy other pieces. Even a replica wouldn't sway me.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:26 No.5822905
    That pigeon-toed stance that every. single. picture has. I know that people will say "it's better than duck feet", but honestly it's just as bad. It makes my kneecaps hurt just looking at that pose, and just makes me think of the way toddlers stand. It probably doesn't help with the misconception that "lolita is ageplay" people have because of that cognitive link, too.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:30 No.5822919
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    I hate when lolitas wear shoes other than boots, platforms, or heels. I like to call them flats. I fucking hate seeing girls wear flats, especially with lolita. It doesn't look good. Stop.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:54 No.5823000
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    >>5822919
    i like this coord:)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)16:01 No.5823022
    >>5822718
    stop showing off dohreimee.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)16:41 No.5823154
    I honestly think that black and navy blue look okay together. Whenever I try to bring this up with anyone, they freak and ask if I'm colorblind, but i honestly think it can look okay sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:58 No.5823739
    I HATE those stupid Asian ball-joint dolls/Pullip dolls. Everyone in my community seems to own one, but I personally find them creepy as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:10 No.5823786
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    >>5823739
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:18 No.5823814
    >>5822919
    Normally, I agree with you, but I don't mind Tea Party style flats because of that 1cm heel they have on back. It's just enough to avoid awkward ankle, along with the straps (provided that the person wearing them isn't enormous and has the straps cutting into their flab, anyway).

    Either way, heels still typically look better, but I can understand the convenience and don't mind so long as we're not talking fuckin' $5 ballet flats from Wally World.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:31 No.5823856
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    >>5823739
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:33 No.5823868
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    >>5823739
    hi luv
    im coming
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:41 No.5823894
    Okay, here goes...

    -I hate tea party shoes. They do not flatter anyone's legs and the look crosses over into ageplay.

    -I cannot stand that dumb bunny-bear bag or whatever it's called from BTSSB. $50 ~ $200 for a stuffed animal, are you fucking kidding me?

    -Fat girls look gross in lolita. Flame me.

    -Most (not ALL) Bodyline stuff looks cheap.

    -Put some goddamn effort into your hair and makeup, SERIOUSLY. There are tons of free makeup tutorials online. At the minimum, put on some powder, mascara and lipgloss. It looks trashy when you're wearing beautiful clothing but your face is a mess.

    -I don't understand the big fucking deal over Alice and the Pirates.

    -I always cringe when I see people selling those hideous lucky pack JSK's from BTSSB on the comm sales.

    -I hate special snowflakes who get wayy too into the whole Japan thing and can't understand why other people think they're strange for wearing such an amazing Japanese street fashion, desu!

    -THE RULES. I cannot stand how people take them so seriously. Sometimes it makes me feel like lolita is more of an international cult than a fashion.

    Ahh, felt good to get that off my chest.

    [Preparing for flame sequence in 3, 2, 1...]
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:48 No.5823910
    I like to tell strangers that I'm part of a online fetish community when they ask me what I'm wearing.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:49 No.5823913
    *AN

    Goddamnit.
    >> flan !!P04JfnDjBNz 05/10/12(Thu)19:51 No.5823921
    >>5823894
    Agree with everything, cept:
    >most bodyline looks cheap
    They've really picked up their game recently. The website makes everything look so much cheaper and shittier than it is in person. The quality in-store, even for a $15 jumpsuit, was impressive when considering how they started off.

    Also, the fat girls in lolita point,
    Yeah because most of what we see of heavy girls is just awful ita and poor coordinates and poorer photography. 1 or 2 I've seen looked decent because the outfit is intricate enough to distract from any size issues. When talking about morbidly obese though, even if the outfit is great I can't get past the health concerns.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:57 No.5823936
    >>5823921
    Flan, you don't care about some fat chicks health. You've made it very clear in other threads how much you hate fat people, so why pretend?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:59 No.5823945
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    >>5823921
    Part of the problem with Bodyline is the cheap prices make it very accessible to newbies who can't coordinate good outfits yet or choose the better items BL offers. Veteran lolis can make Bodyline look amazing, but a head-to-toe Bodyline outfit almost always looks like crap.
    Pic sorta related, can't believe people actually bought this pile of shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)20:02 No.5823957
    >>5823945
    Honestly, I'd like to see alot of bodyline items in person because they're notorious for taking the absolute worst photographs of their products. That said, that dress ain't cute.
    >> flan !!P04JfnDjBNz 05/10/12(Thu)20:05 No.5823969
    >>5823936
    Uh, no I haven't? I don't talk about overweight people much.

    >>5823945
    Great point. In-store is filled with smelly weebs and their mothers :< They deck out in bodyline, but each part of their coordinate is a different shade (eg dark pink top, light pink skirt, neon pink tights....) that just doesnt go.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)20:08 No.5823987
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    Sometimes clip-on pigtails can look cute, usually with a base wig. But excessive hair like this makes you look like some kind of monster.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)20:09 No.5823993
    My main unpopular opinion is I can't stand the emphasis on taking pictures of yourself and posting them online. It seems to turn the shyest, sweetest girls into preening attention seekers.

    I also hate how the more meetups I attend the more I feel the need to buy more dresses so that I won't be seen in the same outfit on close together occasions. I've become everything I ever hated :(
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)20:14 No.5824022
    >>5813454
    This. I think they look stupid.

    I like flat shoes better than heels. Because comfortable shoes are good. I dearly miss bodyline heart buckle shoes. Comfiest thing ever.

    I miss lifestylers. They did interesting things like crafts, drawing, and writing about history... and I respected their desire to escape from the world, which does kinda legitimately suck.

    I also miss punk loli. When done right, it's really, really cute.

    I like my handmade stuff better than my brand. There's nothing like feeling like something was made just for you.

    I don't want anything about me posted online. I don't want efame, I don't want drama. I don't want a loli valentine.
    To be honest, I hate having my picture taken. I use extra clothing like armor to hide parts of my body I don't like or insecurities. I hate when meetups basically consist of taking photos and maybe getting some food.

    >>5813696
    >The lack of the colour green. Why is there so little green dresses? It's a lovely colour that would work well with Classic. Actually, the lack of variety in colours in general. Purple would be great for Gothic. Powder turquoise for Sweet.

    This. Especially with offbrand items to fill in the blanks. I have a very light skintone with a weird olive-yellow undertone. There are no colors in sweet that I can wear. Guess what color I look fucking amazing in? Any shade of green other than goth forest and AP mint.

    People who charge double what their handmade products are worth. I love good handmade stuff, but certain people overdo it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)21:51 No.5824456
    Holy shit, I TOTALLY agree with you about feeling like I need to buy different dresses for meets! I don't know why, but I do. I actually got to the point where I was stressing myself out trying to swap out my dresses every couple of weeks. I even stopped going to meet-ups for a months at a time because it was financially straining. Then I was like "Why...the fuck. Am I even doing this." It can be a slippery, slippery slope. You just have to tell yourself, hey. Who gives a damn if I wear the same $200 dress twice in a row?



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