For me it´s not the replica she´s wearing it´s more the dirty stuffed animals, the hello kitty bag and the fact she never get´s a good make up or wig style done..so sad!

is that the girl that always uses too small dresses?

>>5789933
That could be lots of people.

Is this the crazy girl from Atlanta who thinks she's a French guy or some shit?

I always hate the way girl in OP's post dresses just because she seems to get her replicas too small so that she always looks like crammed into them and that they're about to burst at the seams.

>>5789937
Yes. lolitaviking something or other?

http://www.facebook.com/GentlemanofVersailles

holy shit

You can look good in replicas if you coordinate well and don't look like a slob.

This woman would look like shit if she were wearing a dress that was woven from unicorn hairs and dipped in solid gold.

>>5789859
I cringed when I saw this on my FB wall.
There really is such a thing as being too big for lolita.

she not alone
http://fat-loli.tumblr.com/

>>5790005
Ahaha, my eyes!

Plenty of fat girls wear replicas that fit them and look great. This is a really stupid thread

i´ll just leave this here

>>5789944
Isn't she like French or something. Which begs the question why she calls herself "Gentleman of Versailles"
Not even talking about the fact that she's using the word "gentleman" like you would "Lord" or "Count"

>>5790527
The worst part about people who call themselves "gentleman", "lady", "empress", etc and pretend to be aristocrats with refined tastes is that they always wear ill-fitting, cheap-looking shit. Bitch, if you are so aristocratic, splurge on some decent clothes. Same for the men who pretend to be refined gentlemen of exquisite tastes and look like Tuxedo Mask.

wooord!

>>5789859

This looks like a tent

Not even kidding

That tumblr link is my new thinspiration. I don't want to be a fat loli!

i feel like obese lolitas somehow look more "ageplay-ish" than chubby/skinny/normal lolitas. why is this?

>>5792047

The fat tends to bring the dress up/shorten it also removing the illusion of an hourglass. The chubbier features tend to make them look more childish, and proportionately they just look awkward with the knee high socks being midcalf.

I've seen some awesome replica coords though, and some amazing chubby lolitas, but to the girls with 30-something inch waists wearing pastel AP replicas, that shit is hard to pull off with a 24" waist, darker colours and more mature prints will suit you a hell of a lot better.

>>5792129

i agree. personally i think fat lolitas look cuter in classic styles or gothic ones.

>>5789843

>>5789950
Two hats with a bunch of shit on top.
How could that even be considered cute?

>>5789843
Ewwwww look at all that nasty siht shes wearing messy wig, dirty accesories and dat makeup ;__; so ugly

>>5792160
how old is she??? sweet lord! looks like she could be over 50

So what does ita mean?

>>5792160

The thing that annoys me most here is

This could be a decent skirt if she took it somewhere to get it altered

But that shape is just so horrible

>>5789843
lol i saw her pic in tumblr, she still looks awful. is that a bonnet she's wearing?

>>5792353

>>5792160
>>5792177
The sad part is, these two wouldn't look nearly as bad if they didn't look so old they graduated high school with Methuselah, Abraham and Moses and frumpy enough to make Marjorie Main look like Myrna Loy.

>>5792156

what's this doing here? she's gorgeous.

>>5792566
>trying to pass that outfit off as lolita

>>5792572

true, but she's kawaii so i'll give her a pass :P

>>5790538
I personally consider this dude to be an "ita" of boystyle. Sure he has some nice pieces of clothing here and there, but his coords remind me more of a magician at a circus or a children's party than a victorian dandy.

Plus, his writing style is terrible. He has a column in a lolita forum and god, his "i'm moraly superior than you because i wear conservative clothing" attitude shows so fucking much.

>>5792614

Rofl. He looks like his mother dressed him for prom.

>>5792632
One more. I was laughing out loud reading a courtney article he wrote, when my dad was passing by, he freaked out because of my laughter, looked at the monitor, freaked out more, and said: "Oh my god, son, why is a man that age dressing up as Pinocchio?"

>>5792652
This would look a lot more classy if he had a long sleeved shirt on. Short sleeves just...look bad.

>>5792660
I think he really likes short sleeves. I have seen a couple of pics with him in "dandy" wearing short sleeved shirts. I, being an ouji myself, have tried to figure out how to wear them without looking too stupid/bad. Summer heat just kills me when I want to go out wearing my frills, lolitas have it easier than me.

>>5792669
Ugh. And yeah, I imagine it does suck being a guy and wearing frills in the summer :(

Semi-off topic, but what size do you guys think is too big for lolita?
I have an hourglass shape, on the larger size, and if I were to dress in lolita, I would have to stick to replicas, because my boobs are just not the right size for brand.
I'm scared I'll look like a frumpy marshmallow or something in lolita, though.

>>5792806

If you have a defined waist and balance it out with appropriately sized skirts + poof, you should be fine

>>5792786
Yes, lolitas can stay cool all day with short sleeved/no sleeve thin cotton blouses, or just a jsk, but I have to be buttoned and covered all the way up. It's stupid, but only on summer vacation I have enough free time to hang out with my comm.

I will figure out a way to wear the manly frills keeping it fresh without losing the style, I swear.

Anyone have pictures of good looking chubbier lolitas?

I'd like some ideas.

This just seems like a fatty hate thread. A lot of these girls have just mediocre coords. Not that I'm a fatty lover, just that I don't find this amusing. I want to see legitimately bad outfits.

>>5792858

look up vanillablitz

>>5792870
Thanks :]

morr good ones?

I have one, sort of

>>5792806


As long as you go "in" in the center, it's fine. Don't wear clothes that are clearly stretched, don't wear poorly done wigs, no makeup, or atrocious makeup. Lolita really stops being possible around a US size 16 because the cupcake thing is just making you look like a ball.

>>5792833

I think she looks adorably fairy-kei. Wish her shirt wasn't black, but besides that, I don't see a problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3aSYs8jeZg&feature=player_embedded

Have some glorious ita.
With a fat girl voice, of course.

>>5792833
I actually think she looks good . . .

this "gamer lolita girl" gives me the.... she´not only an ita but a slow talking,boring homestuck.someone take her outside,please!

>>5793035

....is that a shrek brooch?

>>5792865
Not all ita are fat. But most fatty-chan are ita. And they justify wearing replica because they are too fat.

I don't mind fatty-chan as long as they don't they too hard to be kawaii desu.

>>5793818
I was wondering about it myself.

>>5793847
>justify wearing a replica because they're fat

Well no shit Sherlock? Do you honestly want to see a 40inch waist person try to squeeze themselves into a 26 inch original dress?
Are you trying to say that fat girls can't have lolita stuff unless they make their own clothes or buy ridiculously expensive indie?
This slays me: Then when they wear indie you call them 'ita' because they're usually not decked out in popular prints.
That just makes you a typical brandwhore bitch. I'm sorry.

People like you bitch when fatties are in brand, and you bitch when they're not having brand.
No fashion is a "special snowflake" fashion.
And I'm really hoping there's going to be a brand with the balls someday that will make their dresses all the way up to a size fuckin' 40 just to spite every single one of you who think this way.
I hope fatties ruin your fashion. I really wish that upon you. And maybe when you see how immature all of it is anyway over clothes you'll grow a sense of humility and maturity.

>>5793035

I know this girl and she always looks horrid. Funny thing is she runs a lolita store (like, a real one, not an online one), and her store is a national reference for lolitas. Awful.

>>5794092
fatty detected

>>5794092
>People like you bitch when fatties are in brand, and you bitch when they're not having brand.

THIS THIS THIS THIS

>>5793035
I don't think the outfit is that bad, it's just the girl that is ugly. It would probably be pretty cute on a cuter girl.

>>5794092
I agreed with everything except "have the balls to make 40 ich waist" lol wut? Plenty of western indie brands do that why should a japanese brand be more cowardly when they don't even have a population that size and aren't even that concerned with western clients! Besides girls up to a 35 waist can fit into much of the fully shirred brand dresses. What I hate with fatties is that they always complain about fashion not catering to them or being more expensive. Well more fabric costs more! It costs money to look good for anyone not just fatties either. It's not about Gavin the balls to make clothing for girls with larger waist lines, they just don't care. You want it bad enough get something custom made and shut the fuck up.

>>5794095
I know her too, and I cringe every time I see her trying to dress in loli. I don't get why she dresses like that for her booth when se has actually nice things in her store. ...Is she really a national referent? All I know about lolita I learned it from /cgl/.

so much disgusting frilly whales here

Fat people can wear brand - they just have a tendency to not wear it tastefully therefore they look like Jabba the Hutt had a load of pink fluff and ribbons and bows glued onto him.

>>5794159
btssb made larger dresses and bigger girls didn't buy them

>>5793505

I feel embarrassed for this girl. Fat, ita, and idiotic.

>>5794159

Fully shirred dresses look awful on fatties

They look like wrapped up hunks of meat with the strings wrapped around and whatnot

>>5794159
>>5794181
This. Bigger lolitas who bitch about brand sizing should start supporting brands who do cater to their size, if they wanna see more larger lolita clothes. Apart from Baby, AP, IW and Meta having produced quite a few bigger dresses, there are brands like Atelier Pierrot and Chantilly who not only fit, but SUIT bigger girls. How many fatty-chans who bitch actually buy them? IW made an LL blouse, how many Western girls bought it? If there isn't a market, why should brands produce more larger clothes?

>>5793505
the fuck did I just watch?
>user name is yaoigirl
Oh. That explains a lot.

>>5794181
>bigger girls didn't buy them

Because they were ugly as SIN dresses with full shirring and other atrocious crap that makes fatties look even worse. Pic related. They use shirring instead of just using regular cloth and increasing the price because they still want to cater to thinner girls who might buy it, which is stupid because even skinny girls know they look like shit. And it's the same shit with blouses. These companies don't want to limit a kind of blouse just to bigger girls because they know that there aren't as many fatties, and so they put out frilly, shirred ita-monster blouses that can stretch from thin to fat because they're looking for profit. Full shirred (or fuck, even partial sheered) blouses do not flatter fatties. It makes them look huge.

I'm glad BtssB fell on their face with that one, they deserve it for being greedy whores.

>>5794230
This.
There probably would be an increased market for bigger people if those bigger people knew they could get the same kind of clothing as those marketed for skinny girls.
Why is it a favorable fashion for bigger people if all they can expect to buy is a bunch of shirred stuff that doesn't flatter them, or only be limited to JSKs? And really, except for maybe two brands, no girl with a 35+ inch waist, a 40+ bust, and chubby arms is going to get much else.
So it makes sense to buy a replica.

>>5794230
Lol what is that in your pic, that doesn't look like any brand I know.

>>5794230
>They use shirring instead of just using regular cloth and increasing the price because they still want to cater to thinner girls who might buy it
Many bigger girls also complain about the higher prices to have dresses that suit them. Look at all the indie brands that do plus sized clothing and how many complaints they get because they are too expensive. Some don't seem to understand that more cloth=higher prices.

>>5794230
What? Btssb released a few dresses in LL with only quarter shirring, like the pocket embroidery dress for example. That was a beautiful dress that came in 4 sizes. And atelier pierrot and chantilly are made to be flattering to bigger girls, as their designer is a bigger girl herself.

>>5794250
>So it makes sense to buy a replica.
People say that a lot and yet most chubby lolis I see wear extremely ill-fitting replicas, something that I never understood... can someone post some examples of bigger lolis in replicas that don't look terrible?

>>5794250
>There probably would be an increased market for bigger people if those bigger people knew they could get the same kind of clothing as those marketed for skinny girls.
But that makes no sense. Different clothes look better on different body types. You said it yourself how it doesn't flatter them, even if it might fit. Shirring, boob loaf, etc. are all part of that. Larger women shouldn't be trying to find the same clothes in a different size, they should be looking for different clothes in their size.

>>5794258
It's a BtssB dress.

>>5794260
>complain about higher prices
Because usually they're jocked so high to the point where they're unreasonable.
No, nobody is going to pay $270+ for an indie brand skirt with average quality cloth.
I'm sure more fatties with -sense- or at least the ones I've talked to, can understand paying an extra $20-50 for additional measurements because of the use of extra cloth.
But no, charging a plus-size garment an extra $100 just for the sake of it being plus size is unacceptable in a business sense. You cannot explain that other than greed and elitism.

>>5794269
I'm laughing at how you think that rufflebutt mess would be flattering on a fat girl. The girl in that pic is chubby at best, but bigger girls should be wearing more simple styles with as little ruffles and bows as possible.

>>5794279

Found this:

http://happiimilk.net/2012/05/02/replica-review-saint-mephisto/

>>5794279
I have never really thought about it, but that's actually true. It's strange how they always wear too small dresses even when it's custom sizing...

>>5794293

It's because lots of bigger girls can't measure themselves properly, or have PT syndrome and think their measurements are 5 inches smaller than what they actually are

>>5794291
She tagged Oo Jia in that picture on Facebook too.

Here's more
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3424171916514&set=t.100002431017999&type=3

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3619457569582&set=t.100002431017999&type=3

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150782067242848&set=t.100002431017999&type=3

>>5794291
but the difference is this girl consistently knows how to dress for her shape, and is well-groomed. Hence why she looks great, even in replicas.

>> 5794206
thanks for the names ;D Myself didn´t actually know about these brands

>>5794314

Anon asked for an example of a bigger girl in well-fitting clothing, and I showed them one. That's all.

>>5794319
no, I know. I'm not trying to attack you or anything.

>>5794302
This fatties don't want to accept they are fat. If they stopped denying they where fat they could find well fitting clothes to make them look nice.

>>5794366
I've seen thin girls wear replicas in really unflattering ways, and have seen them in clothes that don't really fit them. Are they just having a bad day with those particular articles of clothing, or are they truly in denial that they are that thin?

You sounds ridiculous and you should get over yourself.
Unless the person dresses like shit everyday you can't just say they're in "denial" of anything without proof.

>>5794181
>>5794206
....I did... And I think I look good in my dresses.

The reason brands don't care about fatties it because they don't care much about their foreign customers in general. Japanese people are really small, and those that are very fat have enough sense to realize they look stupid in lolita and don't bother wearing it.

I think fatty chan lolis can look nice but they just have a lot more work to do than skinny chicks. If you're fat it's really easy to slip into gross and sloppy zone.

>>5794181
Because they were fucking ugly.

Hey guys, let's not be mean. They can't help being fat. It's just the body they were born with.

>>5794396
not the same anon, but you seem to be confusing not dressing for your body type with simply being a bad dresser.

It's not like thin people are incapable of looking sloppy or bad. But bluntly speaking thin people have a much easier time finding clothes that suit them because most clothes are designed for skinny people. It doesn't mean it's impossible for them to still look bad, but if they do, they probably aren't looking bad in the clothes BECAUSE they are thin, they are looking bad because it's a shitty outfit or the wrong size or the wrong coord.

Whereas the fatty-chans looking bad that are being addressed in this thread are looking bad because they are wearing clothes that were designed for a thinner bodytype.

>>5796207
Good joke. I laughed.

>>5796175
You realize that Lolita is a Fat girl fashion in Japan, right?

I tried

>>5794290
If you knew anything about patterns, you'd know the tedious and precise technique that is grading, or making the pattern bigger/smaller. Its either you cut up the base pattern, and add fractions of an inch, one size at a time, or you buy the $500+ machine that makes that task just a teeny bit easier.
The easiest patterns to make bigger? Shirred patterns. Just slash and spread, smooth the lines, adjust the elastic requirement, BAM. $25 adjustment vs $100 adjustment.
Also, the one size I've seen every brand do, is the same size as western sample/model sizes. With the smallest variation in ease/measurements, every dress fit my size 6 dress form. So technically, they're not "small asian people clothes"(perhaps only in length), they're just fashion standard.
btw, you mad.

>>5793005
she looks adorable to me

>>5792833
How is she fitting in that skirt? I have a 29-30 in waist and AP skirts are tight on me (it zips but I have enough sense not to go out in something that doesn't really fit/is a bit uncomfortable). Kyandi looks way larger than that.

>>5796279
This.
Also, unless there is very high market demand for a company to put the effort and resources into creating specially sized garments for larger customers, usually the company will not bother because it simply isn't as profitable as putting out standard sizes.

Heavier girls are still buying standard size garments. Companies are still making money. So why would they put money into specially designing clothes for a larger demographic if that demographic is already buying their clothes? It doesn't make financial sense.

The companies which do put out special larger sizes do so at risk of loss, which is the reason for the high markup of plus-size lolita.

captcha: FIXED priousr

>>5796317 now she went from obese to anorexic

>>5789950
>Happy birthday in the background
Oh my god, she's having a birthday tea party
with her stuffed animals

She just wants to be cute and girly and oh my god nobody loves her brb crying

>>5796312
Isn't she like super short?

>>5796915
>anorexic
lol no you're mistaken, that's the size of a normal human being.

No, that´s just as unnormal as she was before

>>5796268
No amount of photoshop could ever save that dress.

>>5796207
I don't think any of them were born with these bodies, Anon.
You'd have read about it in the papers:
WOMAN DIES AFTER BEING SPLIT IN HALF WHILE BIRTHING 350lb BABY

>>5797576
dear god, imagine the pregnancy

Miyuki the Gamer Loli master post http://lookaturlife.livejournal.com/37977.html

Not all fattychans are itas
Not all shirred dress look like hams

I want to get into lolita so bad, but I fear I would look ridiculous and end up posted in threads like these. Just more motivation not to be a fatass, then.

>>5797998
There are plenty of fat lolitas that are great lolitas. The problem is when you are fat, and you cut corners everywhere else too. Ok, if you are fat, you are fat. But you can still try your best to find clothes that suit you (and don't be afraid to alter them!), you can still do your best with make-up and wigs, and you can still put the effort in to make a great coord. If you are the prettiest thin girl out there, maybe you can get away with wearing a dubious dress, or a shiny wig. If you are fat and you also wear no make up, make no effort, and your wig looks like >>5790462
then yes, you will look grotesque. It's all about the effort, the time and the money that you are willing to put in. If you don't have much money, then you must make it up in time, and vice versa.

>>5798016
THIS THIS THIS. The problems start when lolitas who are average in looks as well as plus-size think they can also skip makeup, throw on a wig with untrimmed bangs, put on an AP dress that is 10 cms below their measurements, wear some knee socks that cut their circulation and then take some unflattering pics to top it all off. If you are well put together, no decent lolita will berate you for being fat.

Taking of plus size, here is my inspiration, redtonic on LJ. According to her MM profile she is 159 lbs and she looks smokin'

>>5798061

>No decent lolita will berate you for being fat
>Not a single decent lolita on /cgl/, then.

>>5798191
Sounds about right.

I think maybe two people in here understand how the fashion business works.

>>5798061

Redtonic is AMAZING. I've seen her in person and she pulls off gothic beautifully. I have a different body type but she's defo one of my biggest inspos <333

>>5798061
>thinks a 150 pound woman is plus sized

What in the ever loving fuck is this? Is a size 8 considered "plus size" now? Tell me this is from Australia, because everywhere else it usually starts in a US 10 and above.
>inb4 hurr in runway culture it does
No, fuck you and it doesn't make this shit right. The woman's thighs aren't even puffy, unless that's photoshop and she's lying about only weighing 159 pounds.


Good lord, I know it's only MM but it's not wonder you bimbos have such image issues about your weight! Jeez.

>>5792156
I'd consider that a cute outfit, just not lolita.

>>5799075
>2012
>thinking a 150 pound woman is not plus sized


ISHYGGITY DIGGITY

>>5799103

150 pounds is very much average, especially if you're as tall as that girl is

>>5799109
Well I don't know where you guys live, but at least in my country a 150 pounds (aprox. 75 kg) woman is considered plus sized. Size 8 belongs to the fat ladies clothing section in many stores.

>>5799134

This is considered plus size in the US

http://www.forever21.com/Product/Category.aspx?br=plus&category=faith_main

>>5799138

Plus size starts at 42-35-44? Wonderful overweight america. While it all depends on height, I'm 5'3" and I would consider myself fat with at a 30in waist.

>Ita thread with a person wearing a replica
"OP's probably just hating on some unfortunate girl"
>Look at photo
>Dat everything

She would look good if she took about half of that shit away and fixed her wig. She looks like a hot mess. And please, please, fat girls, never wear knee highs. They never look good. Just do tights. It's not going to kill you if you cannot try on tiny kawaii socks meant for girls who have thin legs

>>5799109

This.
40-29-39, 160, and 5'11"
Not as thin as I could be, but definitely not fat.

>>5799196
Not fat by any means, but still plus size.

Why are you guys so afraid of it? Is it really that negative a phrase?

>>5799206

Can we just agree that plus size means different things in different countries and leave it at that?

>>5799217
Fair enough, I can agree to disagree. I just wish there wasn't such a stigma behind it, plus size shouldn't automatically mean a bucket of poutine in one arm and a two litre of diet coke in the other.

Jesus, fat lolitas ≠ itas. Give me a decently dressed chubster any day. Some of these chicks are overdoing it with the squeezing but I see no reason to post
>>5792822
>>5792819
>>5792817
>>5793005

Not saying I love fatty-chans but some of you need to calm it down with the fatty=crap lolita mentality you guys have.

>>5789843
Those stuffed animals look kinda dirty... I want to give em good scrubbing.

>>5799241

I agree but >>5792817 is wearing a tshirt and need to do something about the bushy eyebrows that don't match the wig at all. The rest could just use minor adjustments like makeup or less frumpy clothes.

>>5799075
I'm 150 pounds and a size 4 us... That's not plus size. Also plus size in most commercial fashions *anywhere* begins at a 12 that's when thy stop carrying any size above in typical retail stores. Betsy Johnson stops at 10, true religion stops at 12 jbrand at 12, Ted baker stops at 10 and bcbg 12 just to name a few. Luxury fashion typically stops at 8 but for more commercial fashions it's between 10 and 12. Plus is 14 and up. But just because you're 150 on the scale doesn't mean you're fat. My measurement are 39-28-35 a size 4 in jeans and I'm 150. People really need to let go of the idea that there is a universal measure for fatness.

>>5799322

This. Someone who is 5'10" and 150lbs can have a better body then someone who is 5'2" and 120lbs.

>>5799322
What? My measurements are 30-23-34 and I wear a size 6. Wherever you shop has some major vanity sizing going on.

>>5799617

What sizing system is that? Size 6 in the USA is normally a 26-28in waist. I'm a 27in waist and wear size 4-6 in every store.

I would like to point out that all the good examples of plus size lolitas are NOT wearing AP or an AP replica. Those infantile prints look really bad all stretched out.

>>5799322
Exactly. THANK YOU.

There is so much at play that determines someone's size. Genetics, bones/muscle & organs to body fat ratio play a bigger part than numbers on a scale. Everyone is different. Numbers (in general) really don't mean much, if anything.

I'm a Mesomorph, so I gain muscle and lose fat quickly when I do actually work out and break the habits of eating shitty food. But when I don't and I'm not careful about watching calories, and take time to be a little less sedentary I gain fat quickly. 150 on me looks about average/normal. 135 and I'm in a bikini. I'm also not THAT tall either, only 5'4". But I'm mostly muscle.

Take someone who's the same height but an Ectomorph (naturally skinny, small frame, lean muscle mass) and they'd probably look like a landwhale at 150... IF they could actually gain that much fat. They're the types who can eat like piggies and not bat an eye or gain an ounce.

Endomorphs are like the natural "fatty-chans", and they usually have the pear-shaped figures. They have slow metabolisms and have issues gaining muscle and losing weight. It takes A FUCKTON of dedication and hard work for an Endo to lose the weight and keep it off. That's more dedication than the average person has. Not impossible, of course.

/rambling and time-wasting.

>>5799944
Out of curiosity, what would I be? I've never been fat, but always more thick muscular wise. I'm a runner, but instead of getting stick thin legs like most cross country runners, I end up with ginormous muscular thighs. The only time my thighs shrank was when I went on a liquid diet after wisdom teeth removal and didn't move for a week.

>>5799944
If /cgl/ could actually grasp this concept of peoples' bodies working differently, about 60% of the posts on this board would not exist.

Although I guess even if they could grasp that simple concept, it wouldn't stop them from being shallow fucks who hate people for how they look.

>>5799322
I'm with >>5799617-- that's some severe vanity sizing. I'm consistently a size six no matter where I shop and my measurements are smaller then yours.

Though I suppose everyone's bodies are built differently? I'm not sure. I still wouldn't really consider you plus size though.

>>5800074
>>5799944

Quit with the sis science. People have different body dispositions, yes. This affects appearance. However, most people don't differ on metabolism and there is no magical category system. You ever been to a dietician (who is good)? They look at what you eat, not what body type you are and shrug their hands going "Oh welp, can't help that you're an ectomorph"

....okay

>>5798270
Not fat

>>5801366
This didn't start out as a fat thread, it started as an ita thread. She's skinny but dat hat.

>>5792817
Oh god, this girl.. when she posted on d_l, i just felt so bad.

>>5798061


DEAR GOD. This girl knows how to work her weight. She looks FANTASTIC.

Most of these girls have bad fashion sense and make-up skills. It's not them, it's what they're wearing.

>>5802310
>bad fashion sense, no makeup skills
But that's what an ita is...

>>5802310
>doesn't get what ita is

>>5798061
When you say "plus size" it implies giving credit to someone who's not even fat or heavy to deal with in the first place. And I'm terribly sorry to inform you, but being "plus size" is stereotyped as heavier set women because it's assumed they have bigger measurements hence "plus." A size 8 is never going to be on the same level, which is why it's silly for some factions of the fashion world to label it as such.
She's an average girl with a nice coord. If she can fit MMM then she doesn't have real body shape problems to worry about.

Show me a girl that's 170+ pounds rock an awesome coord and then we'll have a case. I'm not trying to put down bigger girls, but a woman that's above 5'4 and weighs around 150 pounds is not heavy and never will be. That's average.

>>5802450
My coords aren't insanely creative, but I consider them okay. I'm 195lb and 5'10"

>>5792822
I actually love this girl. She's so sweet and what she wears actually fits her well.

>>5799617
Not really considering the jens I wear are typically Frankie b and j brand and those are known for running small. I have lost some inches though since I las measured bit I can't be much smaller than a 34 hip

I don't know why she even still posts on D_L her outfits reek of special snowflake syndrome and aren't even remotely loli

>>5802450

>>5802550
Not bad, I like it.

>>5802515
Yes, this girl need to gtfo of lolita. Every single outfit of hers is awful, and she looks like a man in the face. Can't stand looking at her.

>>5802625
I'm not sure she was ever "in" lolita.

I have this problem in which I look quite fine in lolita because the skirts and poofy sleeves hide my fat thigs and big ass, and my not-really-thin arms. Does this happen to someone else too?
Picture related.

>>5802774
Is that a problem? if nothing else it will help you learn which parts of a lolita outfit it is that's flattering on you, and adopt them for your everyday gear.
But yeah I'm the same, I carry most of my weight in arms/legs/thighs. Wearing lolita is like camoflage!

>>5802846
I forgot to say that regular clothing doesn't look right on me, because of that. Unless I wear a dress, I look like s fatass.

>>5802774
Dear god, this. I love lolita for hiding my gigantic hips.

Ugh, this thread makes me so depressed. I have a 32" waist and always feel like no matter how much brand I accumulate (15 dresses and counting), I'll still be seen negatively because I'm fat. I go to the gym, eat right and keep a food diary, but having PCOS means I have to work twice as hard as other people to lose weight and so far I haven't seen any results.

I try to look good in lolita though. I always spend around two hours on my hair, make-up and putting together my coords. I have some great dresses that are really beautiful. Unfortunately, I am not.

>>5803358
I wish I could see what you look like. I bet you look better than you think. Pics?

beginning D_L dump

>supposed to be kodona

http://www.etsy.com/shop/TutusChicBoutique

>>5803377

>>5803358
32" really isn't THAT bad. I mean, it depends on your body type too of course, and how you "wear" the weight, but I would guess you don't look nearly as bad as you think you do. And also, there are plenty of "chubby" lolitas that people look up to. You just have to dress well, and be good and styling your hair and makeup so you can still look really pretty. Weight is luckily not he only component of beauty/ :)

dem legs

>>5803375

I was going through this person's pictures on FB and I realized that she's been in every ita thread on 4chan.

I was horrified.

>>5803397
I can't help but wonder what she'd look like without those glasses. Preferably also in good clothes and with her hair and makeup done. I just want to konw if she'd be cute.

this just kills me.
fedora+ vest+ pants =/= kodona

>>5803383
This isn't too bad of a concept for a non-lolita dress, using the tulle like that to give different shades like that. It wouldn't look too bad if it was actually executed properly. Fix the top part, use tulle that isn't such an ugly color, fix the gathering and you'd have a lovely non-lolita dress. I probably feel this way because it very vaguely reminds me of that black and white dress Grace Kelly wears in "Rear Window".

>>5803375
i like that she tried to tie it in with the hair, mostly i'm annoyed because the rope detail on the bodice doesn't line up on the skirt. COME ON.

oh lord is she wearing black trouser socks with...

>>5803401
>>5803397
does she wear those spats with everything?

>>5803391
her outfit looks fine.

>>5803421
Oh god, that totally reminds me of my first attempt. Except it was a wide-brim hat instead of a fedora.

>>5803422
i agree. it looks like they just sewed tulle and some cotton onto the bottom of a nasty shirt that i swear i saw at tjmaxx today.

>>5793505
i commented trying to help out and she sent this, then blocked me.

Cow. I was only trying to help.

>>5803372

uhm... I am this person and what exactly is ita about my outfit?
See this is why I NEVER want to post on daily lolita. There's always some anon trying to be rude behind the anon mask.
You guys are such cowards. If you've got anything to tell me, do it on my face.

>>5803441
>>5803375

Fuck you guys, she's getting better at it. Lay off. And that picture wasn't a full coord either. She was just taking the pics for a review of the dress.

I know she's been in a pain in the ass in the past, but she's backed off on that for a while now, so she deserves a chance to try and actually better herself. There's a picture of her somewhere where she looks decent... was one of the models for a fashion show?

>>5803561
If you don't like anons, don't come here.

Sure, your coord isn't the worst on here, but your hair is a mess.

>>5803561
You look like you've been in a rain storm with that make-up and hair. Clean yourself up, damn. You look like a hceap hooker. And never mix two patterns, its not working. Also you mixed chiffon with heavy fabric, another nono. the tights are blue, not black, and shiny as hell. The angle is unflattering, and the shoes are tacky and dont seem like they fit.

>>5803577

My hair is a mess because I've had long hair for several years and now I am unsure about how to arrange shorter hair. That's all.

Also I said I am open to concrit. If you (or whoever posted me here) thought my hair needed help, they should've told me on the post, not post me here right away. If my hair bothers you so much why don't you try to help so it stops bothering you?

No need to post me in an ita thread when I am not an ita.

>>5803561
Don't post your picture on the internet if you don't want us to take shots at it.

Also, those prints are just too much. And that's just the coord.

>>5803581

I didn't know what to do with my hair

Chiffon and heavy fabric? the skirt has a top layer of chiffon, the bottom is cotton. Same with my shirt, it's chiffon and undershirt cotton. Where's the heavy fabric?

My tights ARE black btw.

My shoes do fit and I like wearing them with dresses.

Why the heck do I need to excuse myself? why can't I just have fun? huh?

>>5803585
No, dude, that coord is a train wreck. You look like you were hit by Hangry and Angry's tour bus.

>>5803585
Then learn how to do your hair and stop making excuses. That coord is ita, so that's why you were posted. Also, I wasn't the person who posted you.

>>5803592

Q: Why are you getting so mad at us when you said like four times that you didn't care what we think of you?

Q: Have you fucking looked at pictures of yourself, read the lolita bible? Have you looked at pictures of good lolitas? Compare and Contrast girl

>>5803599

I don't think my coord is ita but whatever floats your boat.

>>5803561
Why are you wearing hooker-red lipstick when you're trying to look like an elegant Victorian lady?

Your face looks mannish. Go on YouTube and find some make-up tutorials. Lolita isn't just about the clothes.

It appears that you have cankles, meaning that your calves and ankles just sort of meld into eachother with no definition. Ankle boots just make this problem worse. Avoid them. Try high heels or knee-high boots.

There is nothing lolita about that blouse. I don't know why you'd choose it for a coord.

The skirt is... yeah. I think you should look for something in a solid colour. The one you're wearing looks like an eBay knock-off of h. Naoto.

If you don't know how to style your hair, buy a wig.

>>5803561
Sorry I don't watch D_L.
Your hair is a hot mess. Don't mix patterns, ladylike butterflies with punk splatters is terrible. I have no idea what is going on with your sleeves, are those arm warmers? High waist overemphasizes your bust. Learn to post without sticking your legs out, they look gigantic. Shiny shoes look bad, and emphasize that your feet are way smaller than your leg.

All of this is true.
Listen to it.

>>5803592
for hair: ask /cgl/ they have a buttload of hair tutorials.

or if you dont want to do your hair just get a wig.
thats what I do, until my hair gets healthier.

>>5803571

This was a photo shoot as far as I remember, not just a review of the dress, nice try though anon

>>5803561
I don't visit daily_lolita anymore, so I didn't see you post this, but I will give you a critique here.

That blouse and skirt do not look attractive paired together. The prints on both are clashing and end up looking cheap. You should try wearing a solid color blouse with that skirt, I'm sure it would look a lot better. I don't care for the shoes either, they make the whole ensemble look even more costumey. If you like the pointed toe, I'd suggest a pair of pumps instead, or maybe some Oxfords? Also, your hair looks a bit messy.

Girl, learn to not be so defensive

you got offended because you were called ita, which in that photo you are. You said yourself, you aren't sure what to do with your hair and make up and such

that top doesn't go with the skirt
material or pattern wise. This isn't even just a loli thing. it's common sense fashion

here's an example of what to do:

get a wig or cut your hair short
have it be/dye it a dark brown so your eyes and skintone pop better
lighten up on the make up, stick to a neutral pink like your natural lipcolour
lighten up on the blush, you put too much on
same with the liner and eyeshadow

I'd also suggest circle lenses for you

viola, you look a few years younger

I'd also suggest sticking to more simple structured cords. I don't remember what you lolitas call it

>>5803714
This MS paint is a massive improvement.

>>5803714
damn her legs are huge!

>>5803608
All I'm hearing is "I'm not an ita! BAWWWW."

Girl, get it together.

>>5803561
>boobloaf
>dat huuuur
>dem prints don't match, and yes the skirt is a print
>where did you get those shoes? they look like elf shoes

girldataintcute.jpg

>>5803592
>I'm open to critique! Stop hiding behind anon if you think my coordinate is bad and help me!
>*anon offers advice*
>NO EVERYTHING IN MY OUTFIT IS PERFECT. I'M NOT AN ITA.

Smooth.

>>5803592
Can i ask a serious question? Do you have some sort of problem with your legs? I'm not trying to be mean, they just look, well swollen and messed up. I have nerve damage in one of my legs and it swells a bit, but it doesn't even look that odd.

>>5803608
up top, you look like you got caught in a rainstorm. keep your makeup clean and light around your eyes, get a good anti-frizz serum (i like john frieda, or if you have the cash, bumble and bumble also make a good one), and maybe a gel or spray with light hold to it.
the bright red lipstick washes out your tones, and it's very ill advised to do the heavy eye with a strong lip. i think you would look better with dark browns as opposed to black around the eye, between your hair and skin. you can still get a nice smoky look but you won't get the panda effect.
1/2

>>5803585
That hair ages you a lot. It's dated and your hair has no shine to it, so it looks unhealthy (and it reminds me of a teacher I had in 1996). Wear only one hair accessory, two makes it look like you're trying too hard to be kawaii.

I know it can be hard to find shoes with thick ankles, but almost anything else would be better than what you have. They look like men's shoes, and the sharp point only makes your ankles look wider. Go for something with a rounded toe.

There have been some great suggestions for your coord, there's not too much I can add there.

Keep posting on DL and strive to not see yourself here again! Hell, CGL is awesome if you want to just lay your clothes on the bed and ask "should I wear this?". You'll get some good ideas that way.

>>5803780
>>5803780
Oh come on you know thats a mean question. You just want to let her know she has ugly sausage legs that look worse then damaged legs.

>>5803561

Are you diabetic? Because your legs do not look right at all.

>>5803791
now the camera flash and the simple fact that nylons are sheer items that get more transparent with stretch are working against you; and unlike what other anons said it does seem to be black, but unfortunately it's a blue-based black so it looks bad. that is not your fault, that's the manufacturers being dicks. instead, i believe you can get dancer's tights, which are more opaque still, and can help reduce the chances of that blue-black effect.
definitely invest in some nice heels. they don't even have to be stiletto death pumps made with real blades, but the boots you are wearing really aren't doing much for the look or for you. when you have thicker legs, avoid anything that stops at the ankle. the stop of shoe at the ankle emphasizes leg width. instead, as others have said, knee high boots or regular style heels. with heels, the line of your leg garment (tights or whatever) can be seen in the opening of the shoe and gives an illusion of length.
and ALWAYS avoid high-waisted skirts. they create an illusion of the bust sagging all the way down. keep with OPs or JSKs with princess seams.

>>5803795
>Hell, CGL is awesome if you want to just lay your clothes on the bed and ask "should I wear this?". You'll get some good ideas that way.

This. I posted last night in >>5764369 and got some really nice advice on how to make my first coord. :) I'm currently saving up for the items that were suggested, and am really excited about my outfit.

>>5803800
I really wasn't trying to be mean, she has mad diabetes legs, and as someone who usually doesn't care too much about legs I am very disturbed.

>>5803807
>>5803780

I remember seeing a photopost of her before, somewhere. It's not just the photo, her legs really are abnormally thick.

>>5803421

Jesus Christ, that is horrific.

>>5803421

I wouldn't call it Kodana, but it's kinda cute...

>>5803872
>Kodana
Get the fuck out of here, Kai Niimura

>>5803943
tits bow

More ACEN lolitas!

Well at least this thread made me realize i need to drop knee high socks for tights. Seeing them on other plus size lolitas reminded me how badly they can look. :(

>>5803867
>her legs really are abnormally thick.
Then why would you into lolita at all? The most of your actually body, not hidden by poof, is your legs!

>>5803961
lol I recognize that fabric from JoAnns. I had looked at it briefly when I thought about making a loli skirt, but decided it was too cutesy/busy for my liking.
>>5803943
Yeah, I always wear tights when I can, not a big fan of the knee highs.

Just happy to not see myself in the ACen dump.

Thank you, ita scout, for not choosing me as your prey.

>>5803953
Actually find these two kinda cute, except the girl on the left needs to lose those blinding pink tights

>>5804001
>>5803953
I like the bright contrast of those tights. It contrasts against the rest of her outfit.

>>5803943
Yeah, this print is just... unfortunate. I think this could have been better if she had done a skirt then paired it with a plain blouse to offset the business of the pattern.

>>5804001
They are kind of cute, like most of the other girls in this thread, but jesus christ their "coords" are horrible! I nearly died when looking at the dress on the left. It's practically drowning in cheap lace!

>>5804034
I'm usually really opposed to the "cheap lace" look, but it isn't shiny, and seems to work with the print. At least in that photo, to me, the dress works.

>>5803956

Can we just... please not be mean to him, after one Acen? He's an awesome guy that tries hard.

>>5804074
This. His coord isn't bad, just because he doesn't look like a girl doesn't mean he can't dress the part. It must be so frustrating to want to be cute but know you don't look cute on the outside.

>>5804074

He could... try harder.

>>5804058
Oh, woops! Made a mistake. I mistook the print for lace. But I still feel it isn't a good dress, the lace itself is alright, but the placing of it is awkward and the print is much too busy. Both of their dresses aren't suited for lolita and aren't coordinated very well.

>>5804087
if you saw the other brolitas at ACen, you'd be thankful he tried this much

Plus I imagine it's hard for a dude, I mean, he had the gall to put on the dress, to go the length and do makeup... hell, emerging into it myself but 2 years ago I felt like I was just painting myself like a clown - and being a man and almost unable to hide it? I'd feel like I was inviting a beatdown.

>>5804074
I'd agree

he could try harder with his posture, and make up though

but at least the outfit is decent
but dat expression is just unflattering

>>5803956
I know he's improved a lot since like 2-3 years ago, but honestly he needs to get longer dresses.
I agree that he's improving. But that dress does not look good on him, due to its shortness. Wish he'd get longer dresses instead.

Double train reck XD

>>5804240
Not seeing train wreck here, and this picture is from otakon 2009. I smell vendetta.

>>5804240

The girl on the left looks quite adorable. Not a 'train wreck' at all ... did you even look at the other pictures in this thread?

>>5804247

Dude on the left looks fine. Dude on the right is a mess.

>>5804256
Girl on the left is actually a guy...since folks were talking about brolitas, I am led to believe this was a vendetta post.

>>5804256
It's a guy. His coordinates are always decent but he's constantly lacking in the hair/makeup department.

>>5793505
>>5793505
OH MY FUCKING GOD. EVERYTIME SHE BLEW A KISS OR ZOOMED IN ON HER FACEJRKBHSENKHADNGFKJABSNGFAKJDKNGAJS,GNASJKDFNADSJKGKFNA NO
NO
NO
NO
NO
NO
NO
NONONONONONONONONOOO

newest from D_L, kinda surprised D_L's been alright lately.

>>5804361
somebody please tell her SPLIT WIG =/= AUTOCUTE and MINT =/= BLUE.

>>5804361
Also, office lady blouse =/= loli

>>5804361

god dammit arizona lolitas get it together, that's two in one thread

>>5802509
Ugh, this WOMAN, everytimes theres a goddamn LA meetup she almost always asks for a ride, and I laugh whenever no one responds to her Im kinda glad, shes in her 40s? Seriously lady.... No more lolita for you. People dont respond to you because they dont want you there. Which is why other girls get responses BUT you.

>>5804490
>office blouses

I actually prefer these sometimes opposed to the frilly, ruffle monsters. However I wouldn't use one with a sweet coord. It's more for casual or classic.

>>5804588
I was going to offer her a ride actually...

After seeing this picture though, I realize she's not going to fit into my tinyass bug car. Guess I'll pass...

>>5793505
lol "that's my KHORD for the day."

>>5804646
OMG what an ita. Clearly no petticoat.

>>5803358
It's always kind of uplifting when I read that another Lolita has PCOS and shares my difficulty with losing weight and/or keeping it off. It's awful, but at least it's awful for both of us? That's a horrible way of looking at it, but it's 4:30 in the morning, so that's the best you're getting. I feel your pain. Good luck.

Bahaha, first word of captcha is vain

>>5793505
Her lips look like a giant puckering asshole about to shit when she kisses the camera.

As for the rest of this thread it seems like there were more fatties posted than usual along with a few obvious fatties jumping-ok more like flopping-in to defend themselves. All I have to say is that if the brand does not carry your size then you are too big. Japanese brands don't go very high in the size department because they don't have an obesity problems like America does. Therefore, they don't see the need to make things as big. Which also means! That you are too fucking fat and even if you squeeze into it you'll still look a stupid ita cow. Lose weight. Or are you so fat and useless that you can't be bothered? Seriously. If you're so big they don't carry your size that should be your hint that your body is disgustingly unnatural and they don't even want to make dresses for people like you.

>>5803561
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR LEGS

I really don't understand how some girls fit into dresses :/
Yes I'm still a fatty (I measure 38-30-36) and I struggle to zip up some dresses. I've found myself selling dresses on as I know that just because I can (with struggle) zip them up, they don't look good on. Yet I see girls in the same dress who look a good few inches bigger than me who have zipped theirs fully up and seem able to still breathe....

Suddenly i'm wondering about the commercial viability of a 'larger ladies' EGL clothing line..

>>5804832
And this is why I hate Americans. So tacky and obnoxious. Keep your nasty opinions out of here and go back to warmongering.

>>5793505
>mfw she finally reveals

>>5804517
My immediate thought was "this picture looks like it was taken in Arizona."
How strange that I can actually recognize if a photo is taken in AZ, regardless of location or context...

>>5804917
They're probably just really short, so while the proportions look bigger than you the actual sizes are smaller.

>>5804969
I'm 5'2 so fairy short myself and like i said, I know I'm a fatty. But how can I not pull a zipper up when she can?

But look how tight it is around the bust. Even if she managed to zip the dress up, it looks horrible. You wouldn't want to zip it up but then look like her

>>5804985
my point was more that I'm smaller (but still a fatty) than these girls and struggle to zip up - what magic do they use to be able to zip it without the dress splitting?

>>5793505
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55vS6eJcTM&feature=relmfu
She also uploaded this.
Also her kisses. UGH.

>>5804989
I'm sure they find it hard to zip up most dresses too but found one that they can just about get into. Are there dresses that you can get into or can you just not get into any?

What would cgl advise shoes/options for me with my horrid legs? My legs are extremely big in the calf muscles because of fat (180 but trying to lose weight) and the some muscle I've built from sports.
pic somewhat related but mine are much more rounder and I have a slimmer ankle. It just really gets me because I'd like boots but I now how anything that goes above my ankle gives that unflattering stump image and I have a hard time even finding rain boots that will fit

>>5804998
if you read my original post, I can zip up most JSK/dresses but I struggle to and they dont flatter me.
These dresses don't flatter these girls but my point is HOW DO THEY DO IT???
It's not a whine, it's a genuine curiosity.

Is this thread still alive? Because I have some really Ita pics. Just sayin'.

>>5805176
Pic so much related.

>>5804934
We will be sending these cuppycakes into space~

Why did I watch that awful video? Also that girl ruined tinychat - she would try to monopolize any conversation with complianing about how everyone was always mean to her.

>>5803406
This post was the first in like, a series of improving outfit. The ones near the end get much better. I mean, someone else posted another where she's not wearing a petti, but goodness, people, at least the girl is improving. Stop putting things out of context.

>>5803872
No. It reminds be of what a brony would wear when they're trying to be classy.

>>5802515
Is she going for.... hipsterlita?

>>5804074
>>5804085

you dont get a free pass for being ita just because you have a penis

>>5805085
She is wearing a replica. So the sizing would be much bigger than normal brand dress you are talking about. Not that is makes she look good, though.

>>5798270
MFW I realised that is Czol.
Why is it the lolitas that bitch the most about how other people look always look like this?