I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, I can't say I know what popular opinions in general are, but this hat is so ugly. I fucking hate that stupid fake clock. It looks so cheap and like something a bad steampunk cosplayer would wear.

>>5756458
What is that? Just a piece of paper stapled to the hat? How lazy and unimaginative.

>>5756458
I've seen it in real life, and it doesn't look as bad as the stock picture, but I agree that the fake clock is stupid.

>>5756458
Is that paper?

>>5756468
>>5756496
I believe it is embroidered felt.

>>5756458
Yeah, I like the idea, but for that price, can't I get a real, working clock?

>>5756806
do you want to take your hat off to see what time it is?

>>5756950
Other people can tell what time it is...
I mean, lolita isn't even supposed to be a functional fashion, so does it matter?

>>5756458
I would find this more aestheticly pleasing if the clock was not so floppy looking. They could had made the felt stand flat instead of smoothed over the curve. It looks like it was stuffed in a box for a while before they immediately took it out and snapped a pic. Maybe a thick embroidered edge would improve it? Like a patch.

I don't have the confidence to wear my dresses out in public (outside of themed parties, special events, halloween, cons, etc. and even then, those instances are rare) so I'm pretty much more of a collector. I enjoy just owning the dresses even if I don't wear them.

>inb4 they're just clothes!!111

"Country" is not a fucking substyle and it chaps my ass that it's 2012 and it's still getting referenced. It's just a variation on sweet, nothing more. It was a one-season trend by brand to include straw stuff in their lines that the Lolita handbook immortalized for some reason. Ever notice how the only pictures of "Country Lolita" are used over and over again, like that Mary Magdalene scan with the basket purse?

I hate country Lolita. I overheard some crazy chick at a con state, in an informative manner to a newbie, that Country is the only style in which it is acceptable to have bare shoulders.

Haha, original OP here, I'm crying tears of pride for my thread and my lolis.

Sweet lolita looks like age play if not done just right, and even then, it's borderline.

This coming from someone who loves dressing sweet.

The next person who tells me to be happy I can fit into brand can go eat shit.

Seriously, just keep making everything awkward.

I actually like Wa lolita. It can look good, and the reason it has a bad rep is because a lot of Ita fuckers jump on the Wa loli bandwagon.

Also, something I've noticed. All the girls who I know online who are lolita sound like they will look amazing, wether that be because I perceive them to have vast knowledge or because they are just really nice. But then I see photos and I'm like...oh, well that's boring.

>>5757880
This. Although I get the converse: "So what if you can't fit in brand? just be happy you have HUGE boobs!"

Big boobs are fucking irritating in and out of lolita.

>>5756458
First thing I thought of when I saw that hat....

>>5757264
One of my RL loli friends constantly labels my classic outfits as country, like "Oh look you're wearing country loli again, it's so cute!" I don't want to be an asshole and correct her, so I just suck it up and deal but damn it's annoying.

>>5757881
Wa-loli where people wear the short poofy kimono is fucking terrible.
However, dresses like this Meta one with just the print look good.

>>5757264
Seriously. Look for every picture labeled country. Remove the obligatory straw hat or straw bag. You now have either a sweet or a classic coordinate.

Fuck that, I want gothic country. Let's do this. I need to go deco a pitchfork.

>>5758111
Already been done.

>>5758111
>>5758239
Holy shit guys, now I want to do a gloomy Puritan-based coord.

>>5757264

On the same note, I honestly only think sweet, gothic, classic, and maybe punk are the only real substyles. The rest are just themes. Things like EGA or dandy are siblings to Lolita, not "substyles". I feel the real styles are the ones that have entire brands dedicated to them.

>>5758467
I was with you until "I feel the real styles are the ones that have entire brands dedicated to them."
It's not that kodona and EGA don't have brands, it's that they aren't lolita. The silhouette is one of the most important parts so without it, there's no lolita.

I can't stand when people say kodona and EGA are lolita. They are inspired by the same period, and match well with some lolita outfits, but they are not lolita. In the latest secrets, with that chick who was wearing some offbrand floor-length Baby style skirt, I hated how some people were like, "Well EGA has floor-length skirts so it's lolita!". Ffffff. No, not at all.

I agree that the mark of a real style is a brand dedicating itself to the aesthetic.
I mean even Punk has stuff like Algonquins and Putumayo. There's no real Country or Wa brand, and I don't think there ever will be.

As for EGA, Ouji, Dandy, Kodona, etc, to me they just seem like sidekick styles. Like "Friends of Lolita".

I hate wa. Especially when some derpy kid decides to wear a Wa-Lolita inspired outfit to work in a maid café.
Yes, that tiny apron looks so practical. Especially paired with those furisode sleeves.

>>5758573

I worded that poorly, the part about EGA and dandy should have been a completely different statement. Let's rephrase and add:

On the same note, I honestly only think sweet, gothic, classic, and maybe punk are the only real substyles. The rest are just themes. I feel the real styles are the ones that have entire brands dedicated to them.

Things like EGA or dandy are siblings to Lolita, not "substyles". Things like guro and wa are "themes".

I hate the Alice in Wonderland style stuff. I think it's just because Alice has been done to death in just about EVERYTHING, but it just bugs the hell out of me.

>>5759745

Actually...I can see where you're going with that. 99% of pirate coords would fit into classic or gothic, 99% of country coords would fit into sweet or classic, dolly and mori lolita just look like OTT classic...

I think that the girls who make coords on polyvore here are a million years better than the people who make coordinates for lolita shops and magazines.

>>5760048
The catalogue coords are done with almost exclusively catalogue items. People on /cgl/ are going to have more creative coords by default, just because they have a whole wide world of brands, offbrand, designer and high street open to them for experimentation.

You're not going to see an Innocent World catalogue coord Antique Book in burgundy with a vintage cloche hat, lace tights and John Fluevog Baroque boots. It's just the nature of advertising.

As I was going through the off-beat embroidery/print thread, I saw a couple designs with one single print or embroidery/applique work off to the side of the skirt, and I can't help but think that the pretty dress or skirt is ruined with such awkward choice in decorating.

Yeah, I like the idea of a squid on a skirt, but for some reason, it only sounds good, instead of look good. Also, it's kind of hard to show off that kind of design under the gathers and/or pleats (maybe it could have a whole border design of squids?). Maybe I feel this way about those things because I had to deal with selling my friend's cat print skirt from BL - that thing is just awkward.

>>5760012

"Dolly and mori" aren't related to lolita at all, though. Dolly kei and mori girl are their own styles and I think a very tiny amount of people have tried to incorporate them into lolita.

I can't fucking stand posts like these

http://egl.livejournal.com/18476402.html

Not everything is related to lolita just because you slap it on there?

>>5760085
Polyvore girls have done all-AP and all-MM coords.

>>5760479
Yeah, I don't fucking get this. If she goes in the direction of what pastries and sweets aren't so bad for you if you're at a meet-up, okay. Some fruit heavy, less sweet recipes, maybe. But how is general dieting tips lolita? The only reason I'm not shitting all over this post is because maybe it'll encourage fatty's to lose weight if someone slaps "lolita" in front of "dieting plan". And I sure as fuck don't like seeing fat people.

>>5756419
I'm so sick of people in Lolita art always being pigeon-toed.

FUCK, IT'S NOT CUTE.

I am so sick of the classic peter pan collar lolita blouse. I don't mind the smaller ones you find in most street fashion, but I feel like a fucking five year old in brand blouses.

I just wanna mix and match my loli with random offbrand blouses now.

I miss GTFO. Not that I don't love you anons but being able to have a thread like this is a lost art there. Fuckin' angel of death and social justice warriors.

>>5760815
There are plenty of options for you if you don't like that Peter Pan collar.

Flat Peter Pan collar
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20120414/20/baby-kumamoto/0f/ea/j/o0200028911915819581.jpg

High collar
http://www.angelicpretty.com/shopping/item/blous/112B11-6511/112B11-6511.htm

Sailor collar
http://www.angelicpretty.com/shopping/item/blous/122B3-6527/122B3-6527.htm

Square sailor collar
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/baby/blouse/136421.html

Round neck
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/baby/blouse/135433.html

Square neck
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/baby/blouse/135425.html

And these are just sweet examples. Off-brand is cheaper but I'm just citing some brand ones, just so you know that not all brand blouses have that hideous collar.

>>5757889
... That is so spot on.
Good show anon!

>>5756994
I kind of like how it's floppy. It reminds me of a melty Dali clock. I doubt that was the look they were going for though.

>>5760112
My unpopular opinion is actually the opposite of yours, haha. I think that the single applique/concentrated design looks so much better more often than not than a full-on print. I wish more brands did it.