Uh why?

Blouse, yes. Jewelry/accessories, yes. Skirt, possibly. Jsk/dress, definitely not.

Finding a dress with the lolita silhouette is close to impossible, and it will show.

That's...a weird question.

If they so happen to sell a skirt or dress that fits with the lolita style, then yes. But that hardly ever happens, so realistically, probably not.
It's *possible* but not *probable*
Esp not this season.

Yes, but it depends on what kind of lolita you're going for. Anything OTT, sweet or classic, you likely won't be able to find because it's not something that most people will buy. However, I've seen a lot of decent JSKs and stuff that can be worked for casual or classic. Print dresses are limited unless you want some kind of bright floral but cardigans, blouses, and skirts can be found anywhere. Accessories with flowers and vintage looking jewelry are easy to find as well.

Look for shops like charlotte rouses, forever 21, belk, kohl's, etc.

Petticoat's though, you'll likely have to find online since they're not commonly sold.

>>5700238
Because I often see things that are loliable there, and I'm wondering if anyone has made an outfit using only loliable things that wasn't made for lolita.

>>5700256
There's no rule about using Main St. clothing in lolita outfits, if that's your concern. Usually though, the skirt or dress would have to be from a loli brand just because you're unlikely to find something at a regular store.

Doesn't this lolita do that?

I like H&M :3

No, it is not. Even the poofiest high street dresses won't accomodate pettis properly, and if they do, they will look like sundresses with a petti squished underneath. Inb4 a-line, less poof etc. Loli dresses with less poof can work when all the other elements in a coord are lolita. If you have a coord made up by solely non-loli elements, it just won't work. It is best to get lolita main pieces and then maybe you can find cardis, blouses and accessories from high street stores to coord them with.

possible? yes.
Difficult? yes
probable? no

It CAN happen but very rarely does. It is usually attempted by noobs who can't afford brand. Lolita is just such a specialized style that even though a few offbrand pieces can be worked into an outfit, doing a whole look from normal stores usually lacks the details and intricacy that makes a loli outfit loli.

I recently got into lolita again, after selling all my lolita clothing, so my whole outfit is from chain-stores like H&M and BikBok. The dress could probably be a bit longer, but I don't think it's too bad.
> selfposting

>>5700293
It's a really nice outfit, but it isn't lolita. It's just...a really nice regular fobby outfit.

>>5700293
looks otome moreso than lolita

>>5700302
I'm just wondering, but could you tell me why it isn't lolita?
Thank you though :)

http://www.apricotonline.co.uk/products/RIRI-Tartan-Dress.html
I'm pretty sure this fits a petti, and looks pretty good too.

>>5700313
For one, the overall silhouette is too flat for lolita.

I'm not into lolita, but I do think it's quite cute. Is there a casual or toned-down version/style of lolita?

>>5700336
I own that dress and if you stuck a peti under it it would be far too short as its already about mid thigh. Its such a cute dress though

>>5700302
>fobby
whoa whoa whoa
that's kind of rude

>>5700365
It is? I didn't know what it meant so I just thanked her haha (I probably don't wanna know what it means).

>>5700365
What? Fobby isn't a rude term. It's mostly just used as a general descriptor for people who dress azn.

>>5700395
From my understanding, it comes from FOB which is "fresh off the boat"

But you know, that's just what I got from it, anon might not have meant it in any insulting way I just saw it and was like "WHOA!"

>>5700429
that's not what it means at all. it's a derogatory term for asian people who look 'too much' like they're part of asian culture, and haven't yet acclimated to white culture. it's an insult.
asian people sometimes say it facetiously about themselves but that's a totally different matter. it's really nasty to call someone a fob or say they look fobby. like what the fuck

that girl was cute as hell too

>>5700569

this

>>5700293
You are incredibly cute :3
Do you have a blog? I would lurk it so hard

>>5700569
Sure is social justice warriors in here...

>>5700661
My thoughts exactly.

We're on 4chan, guys.

>>5700569
Is this a common term? I have never heard about it.

fuckin fobs gooks nigs and chinks

>>5700569
damn, fob is the new nigger who wouldve known

>>5700748
Hey man, hey. Come on, now. Don't forget the spics.

>>5700676

first time I heard it was in high school, when my Vietnamese friend called herself a fob.

It is possible to make something decent, I think
It would be really really hard to make it look as good as something originally intended for lolita, though. You can make some pretty o.k. casual or classic coords though. I used to wear lolita and I found some pretty nice things from department stores and mainstream clothing stores. It helps if you're small enough to wear kid's sizes.
Pic related, I got everything in this pic from Fred Meyer/Sears/Forever 21 (and Goodwill, ha). I think it turned out decently - definitely not as good as a coord made with brand/lolita-specific clothing, but pretty nice.

>>5700569
>>5700439

Man, get out. There are worse derogatory terms for Asian and she didn't mean it in a bad way. It's now been claimed back for use to describe modern East Asian fashion. If you want some real Asian racism go back in time in early 1900's San Francisco

Don't they use the term fobby on soompi?

>>5700569
Go back to tumblr lol

>>5701025
Oh good, you laughed at your own joke. Now there won't be any uncomfortable silences.

Holy crap really, you don't know what FOB means? o_o Why would anyone use "fobby" as a nice word? lol..

oh hell
i use the term "fob" to describe people irl
i didn't think it was an insult. not exactly a term you would use when talking to an employer or writing an essay but still

how else do you describe someone like that?

uhhh uhhh you know uhhh.. that asian kid that dresses like an asian kid... uh

>>5700883
>>5700439
I've heard the term fob before and while I don't think it's necessarily a positive one, I also don't think extremely derogatory.

However, I've never heard it in association with Asian fashion. As another anon mentioned, it's generally used to describe recent immigrants. Idk where you're getting "reclaimed for Asian fashion" from.

lol internet so sensitive

>>5702650
I don't find this word offensive, I'm just extremely confused at the whole "RECLAMATION!" defense since I've just... never... ever heard it used to exclusively define fashion.

ANYWAY, I think we're getting off topic here.

>>5702636
Someone can dress fobby, but that's not what comes up in my mind when someone says that person is dressed fobby, since it just looks classy to me.

Since western clothes are proof of assimilation in western society.

>>5702687
Yeah, anon is cute as hell! As another Asian I hope to be as kawaii as her one day.

Here's a d_l post with all thrifted and offbrand finds. I feel bad for the girl, cause all the coords look terrible but I am too embarrassed to point it out and be a labelled as a meanie.

http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/5256819.html#cutid1

>>5703417
This is a good example of why we usually tell newbies to avoid high-street dresses and skirts.... cause they say 'but it fits a petti comfortably!' and this is what they mean. This dress is not meant for a petti, the petti is distorting its shape and makes it look like trash.

>>5702593
>>5702636
>Idk where you're getting "reclaimed for Asian fashion" from.

This. I've never heard it as anything but a deragatory term, definitely nothing that people will brag about at the very least. As for using it to describe an asian into asian fashion, I think of my parents or grandparents who wear either bright matching silk sets or something from their country of origin. Ya'know, actual asian fashion instead of western-influenced like

>>5700293.
>how else do you describe someone like that?
>uhhh uhhh you know uhhh.. that asian kid that dresses like an asian kid... uh

How about calling them out by the actual fashion they're wearing? Gyaru, Visual Kei, Lolita, etc. Not like there's a shortage of it.

>>5703417
The first skirt has potential if she paired it with some better things then it would look ok :/

>>5700262

Apparently not, as that's an Innocent World skirt, or at least the Bodyline replica.

There was a period where Primark kept doing fabulous skirts with that loli shape. I got two but there were loads more designs with pretty prints. One even had the petti built in.

So yes, you can make a skirt/blouse coord from the high street, you just have to keep looking and hope you get lucky.

>>5703479
*Bodyline replica of an Atelier Pierrot skirt

I think you can even if you have to make some adjustments to the pattern ( the skirt to fit a petticoat and stuff). Its just that most lolitas are just really bad a coordinating outfits. They have no fashion sense at all even though they like to think they do. I wish there was a nice book or article on coordinating outfits that could just get spread around the community.

>>5703425

I personally don't understand why she did the colors like she did. It looks kind of like a 'space age' outfit or something, if that makes sense. And why those socks. ALL OF MY WHY.

>derogatory
lol

there are asians, usually the white washed ones like me, use the term fob to harmlessly describe .. fobs all the time.

what's wrong with not assimilating to western style? When you have westerns assimilating to asian style?

>Look at all of the 'gaijin gyarus' who use shopping services to buy 109 brands or knock offs from taobao. Same with dakotur. Even if they're not actually fobs, I would still describe their style as fob.
>cos their outfits are so hideous that they can't possibly be considered gal or otome.

don't let social justice fags confuse you into thinking its derogatory

>>5703425
Was I the only one who found the cut text she put on her post utterly creepy?
>It's my first time. Please be gentle.

>>5703716
I'm Asian American and I used the term fob a lot with my other Asian American friends and Asian friends in general. It's like a joking term when we say, "You're such a fob". Anyone else use "chinky" too? My friends and I would say "We have chinky eyes" and nobody at my school cared and then I went to another school that was mostly white and they were horrified when I said "My eyes are so chinky!"

>>5700253
This season is shit at H&M. I used to go all the time when I'd visit my relatives because we didn't have one in my state, and everything was gorgeous and fun. Same with F21. Then we got both of them and they turned crappy and stopped carrying beautiful things...

>>5703931
My Asian friend is like this! She was talking to some random Asian guy at a party and I asked her how she knew him, and she was like 'pfft, all chinks know each other, just like black people'.

I guess it's like 'nigger', you shouldn't say nigger unless you're black and the same goes for Asians and fob/chink.

>>5700853
Hnnnngh I am so jealous of your shoulders.