I love this group so no complaints from me. I just hope that their comedy style can transition nicely to the dramatic skits necessary.

I heard from a staffer who was security at WCS that it was terrible. People missing their times, dropping out last minute, running over their times, unrehearsed, groups falling apart, etc. Plust not nearly as many people came as Katsucon was expecting.

>>5530577
Why go to Japan? They already won the best prize of all: The 2012 Ashley Rice Cosplay Award.

Pic related.

These two are my absolute favorite cosplayers. I'm so happy they won.

I only caught the second half of the performances but those two had the best skit by FAR. Definitely excited for them.
for the record. Words cannot describe my embarrassment when I first sat down and Evanescence started playing in the first skit I saw, after I'd had to convince my buddies to come by saying how much better WCS masqs are supposed to be compared to regular masqs. what the hell guys.

>>5530597
sorry derp question but does the Ashley award have to do with ironing?

>>5530618

WCS isn't an automatic OMG AWESOME SKIT competition. It actually takes a lot more work and enginuity to come up with a skit that works and is entertaining with just 2 people. No ninjas and only 2:30 to do it, not to mention a weight limit on props.

That said I think this team is an awesome pick. They had an interesting skit with well planned props, and were so excited to win. You really can't say anything bad about them.

And to my knowledge after judging only one group actually dropped, and there wasn't much drama in the way of people missing spots or being late.

Also anyone who says they worked security for WCS is a joke, because there was none. Anyone who wanted in the green room only had to walk in...

I was really torn between these two and the Ah!My Goddess group. While the A!MG group definitely had it with construction and detail, these two won me over with the mirror. I thought that was wonderfully creepy and definitely played on the darker side of Princess Tutu, and was a total throw back to the actual Swan Lake performance.

>>5530618
Yeah, we made fun of them on here.

>>5530635

She made a special speech about how much help she got from past contestants, and that someone hinted to her that there were no irons in the hotels in Japan.

She brought a travel iron and all the other teams head and came to their room to use the iron, and it helped them make friends... even despite language barriers.

It was cute.

>>5530651
One of the many reasons why I love that woman.
You know, I met her at the downtown fashion district when they were getting supplies for their xxxholic stuff. She was so cool! ahhhh sorry mini happy rant....

Anyone know where I can watch this skit? How many groups competed?

>>5530680

I think 27 entered, and there ended up being 22 actual skits?

You can see them on ACP or if you dont have an account http://www.youtube.com/user/cosfudotorg#p/a/u/4/smOwrx7jaBk

>>5530639
Oh, I know this now. I'd never seen any non-winning WCS skit before the other day. I just expected a higher caliber than... you know.

>>5530639
No wonder everybody was doing dancing skits. You're only allowed 2 people. Can't really do much with that.

they deserved to win! plus i like everything coconut bubble sex has done since their ax skits.

>>5530714

I get the feeling that a lot of those entrants were allowed to compete just to fill the roster and make it seem like this was a very popular and difficult competition.

In reality only 4 or 5 of the teams were really in the running.

>>5530577

If i had anything bad to say about the skit was that they spent so much time with their backs turned looking at the box. If they take this skit to Japan I would hope that try figure out a solution to that, perhaps looking sideways at the box instead of head on...

Its hard to see facial expressions and emotions with their backs to you. PS. In japan judging critera is like 5 points (out of 20 or something) for emotions conveyed on stage.

>>5530735
ive followed them for a long time! when i didn't see them at ax 2011 i was shocked! what's an ax without coconut bubble sex? and did hybrid_twist, velvy, evali, babyberry, imriela all drop out?

>>5530639
I actually can, sorry. Their dancing was subpar. I still think they deserved the win, and I like both of them a lot, but I think that the AMG girls both moved better. The butterfly girl has some of the best performance skills I've seen in a masquerade.

I'm just happy we finally have a lesbian team. I hope they pick costumes that showcase Katie's legs and Diana's titties.

>>5530707
Ugh, would it kill conventions to film these things in a better position? I want to see these things as they were meant to be seen.

>>5530772

I agree about the butterfly girl being strong, but their skit was so boring with the scarves and interpretive dance. I am so sick of predictable dancing skits.

>>5530577
Princess Tutu seems appropriate, since the one on the left looks like a duck.

>>5530811
go back to typing on your braille keyboard.

I want my $300 in Arda's wigs. FUUU.
Seriously, I am glad for them.

>>5530795
I'll agree with that. Both teams were strong.

I think that there are plenty of great dialogues that can happen between two characters alone. Some really great dramatic scenes can really only be pulled off with two actors.
I hope we can see some of that in the future.

>>5530795

I felt so bad for them, getting 2nd place is worse then not even placing. The competition is so weighted where only the winning team really gets anything for their trouble, it must really blow to be told you were so close, and yet so far.

>>5530847

They have gotten 2nd place every year too. :(

I found the skit to be somewhat boring and I really think the only thing that got them the win was the one able to go on point and dance

>>5530831
The mirror effect was what put the Tutu team over to win it.

So once again America sends UGLY PEOPLE to an international cosplay contest because of OMGZ EFFORT and THE SKIT WAS GUD.


Why do westerners never understand that cosplay is about beauty? It's your achilles heal.

>>5530951

sorry but these two girls are anything but ugly. haters gon hate.

>>5530951
Get the fuck out, you're just jelly that they go to Japan and you're NOT!!!

>>5530951
How can you hate Hilary Duff?

question.... how do americans qualify to go anyways? I thought in europe you had to do like qualifier competitions or something but I dont know of any of those in the US.... (I know nothing about this event really but I've always wondered)

Though a friend said that she ran into the US participants from a year (or two?) back at Fabric Depot here in Portland. Before that I didnt even know we sent cosplayers to the summit.

>>5530964
You obviously have some sort of bias from either knowing them or knowing OF them, since anyone who is unbiased would obviously see a tall, goofy looking woman with a big nose and a short girl with a weight problem.

>>5530966
Sorry, but I'm not a 14 year old weeaboo. Going to Japan is not my dream. If it was then I would go. I'm not so poor as to not be able to afford a vacation.

>>5530978
Neither of those girls look anything like Hilary Duff.

>>5530981
You enter into the contest that it's held and american judges choose which one. American cosplayers judge solely on craftwork and skit. They don't mind sending fat people and uglies. Which is why they never win.

>>5531002

While I agree that US judges focus on craftwork and dramatic (rather than entertaining) skits - which is why we never win - I think you are being way to harsh on the girls.

Not every team that ever wins WCS is model status, most teams are average looking at best, with average costumes and a really entertaining skit.

Get off your high horse, also just because a girl doesn't have the ideal body type doesn't mean she has a weight problem.

>>5531002
If you fused them together and bleached their hair they would become Hilary Duff

>>5531002
http://youtu.be/lt6PVVr4B04

You can change your life - if you wanna
You can change your clothes - if you wanna
If you change your mind
Well, that's the way it goes

But I'm gonna keep your jeans
And your old black hat - cause I wanna
They look good on me
You're never gonna get them back

At least not today, not today, not today
'cause

[Chorus:]
If it's over, let it go and
Come tomorrow it will seem
So yesterday, so yesterday
I'm just a bird that's already flown away

Laugh it off let it go and
When you wake up it will seem
So yesterday, so yesterday
Haven't you heard that I'm gonna be okay

You can say you're bored - if you wanna
You can act real tough - if you wanna
You can say you're torn
But I've heard enough

Thank you... you made my mind up for me
When you started to ignore me
Do you see a single tear
It isn't gonna happen here
At least not today, not today, not today
'cause

[Chorus]

If you're over me, I'm already over you
If it's all been done, what is left to do
How can you hang up if the line is dead
If you wanna walk, I'm a step ahead
If you're moving on, I'm already gone
If the light is off then it isn't on
At least not today, not today, not today
'cause

[Chorus 2X]

>>5531014
>just because a girl doesn't have the ideal body type doesn't mean she has a weight problem.

Perhaps it would be more in best general interest to send over contestants who ARE ideal.


You can make a house out of excuses, but it's not one you'd want to live in.

>>5530818
>braille keyboard

The fuck? Do you actually read your keys? Do you not know how to type? Why would keys even need labels? Are you 10?

I think the costume on the left looks hilarious with the check blocking out the skirt. Like a pair of tights that go all the way up to the arms.

>>5531062
Don't be jealous because your boobs are small like rabbits and her are huge like melons.

>>5531002
Yeah she totally has a weight problem. It has nothing to do with the design of the costume at all. She doesn't have any other costumes at all where she looks much skinnier because she isn't wearing a miniature elizabethan collar.

>>5531077
How tall is she? She seems short and spunky.

>>5530951
what crawled up your ass and died?

>>5530981
you send a "resume" and then get invited to compete in prelims. We only have the one competition to decide. It jumps around from con to con.

>>5531080
Not super short. When I met her a few years ago we were about the same height, so probably about 5'3". I think she looks so short cause Katie is wicked tall.

I love Diana, she's such a sweetheart and has wonderful costumes. Katie too.

>>5531087
I dunno, mang. Ballerinas are notorious prima donnas...

>>5531076
I have no breasts, tragically. But having big breasts doesn't mean much if who they're attached to is not appealing.

>>5531077
She doesn't look skinny in either of those pictures. And does it really matter? The point is that she looks fat. America chose a cosplay that looks like a fat girl in a dress.

>>5531105
Its so tragic that in your country your people are so hungry that a cute skinny well endowed American girl looks fat to you. Is there a charity that I can send money to help feed your people, I have a spare five, that should what, give you rice for a month?

>>5531115
>Giving money to Africa
>I sincerely hope something something

>>5531115
The person you're referring to is none of those things.

You obviously have an emotional interest concerning the defense of this person so I assume it's someone you know. Personal biases can fight battles on forums, but they certainly don't help in winning contests.

>>5531126
I don't know that person either and I think, while not stick thin like her anorexic friend there, she does have that cute cubbster thing going on. So meaty and boobs like melons. They got a free trip to Japan so who cares. And knowing its history, it's not as if people think WCS is a real contest anyway.

>>5531138
So you don't know the person, but still insist on claiming emotional relevance on her trip to Japan? That seems odd.

And please, do not use "cute" and "chubby" in the same sentence. There is no flattering way to frame the issue of fatness.

>>5531126
you'd obviously know a thing or two about biases, wouldn't you sagesan.

>>5531158
Eh? You're claiming emotional relevance to their weight? And I will put "cute" and "chubby" together if I damn well please. Plus, Japan is the anime motherland and who the hell would turn down a free trip?q

>>5531161
I don't see what you mean by that.

>>5531167
No, I'm claiming aesthetic relevance to weight. Fat cosplayers do not look good. You cannot ignore the cosplayer and simply judge them on the clothes they wear.

>>5531105
>>5531193
How the flying fuck can you say that girl looks even remotely fat.

Just exactly how mentally challenged are you.

>>5531193
you sound like a butthurt bitch. Did you lose a contest because no one liked your shitty costume. That's so sad.
If you hadn't noticed America doesn't really give a rats ass about winning the WCS, its a free trip to Japan. And whether or not you like it, this super cute chubby faced, talented seamstress is going.

Now that I'm thinking about it, there seems to be a lot of irrational fatty hate on this board lately. You really should stop breeding, its not good for the environment here.

>>5531193
Was you mother fat? Is that why you hate fat people?

I'm all for calling cosplayers fat, but this girl is chubby at worst.

Oh, Bunny. You just mad because you decided to try out for WCS awhile ago, announced it on /cgl/, got all both of your fans all riled up and then fell on your face. Fall with dignity and stop bashing these girls. They had a right to win.

>>5531320
Pic of Bunny Mage in failed WCS attempt.

>>5531320
LOL!
Bunny Butthurt can't even balance on her feet? Oh well, get on with your chubbyhate in your computer chair instead then so you wont fall over.

>>5531350
I meant metaphorically. But that would be good to see, too. Bunny tries way too hard to get noticed. She's on her way to becoming one of those people that thinks being famous on the internet is actually important.

>>5531360
Meh, worked for Maguma. He's a shit cosplayer too.

I wonder if they will meet many fine Japanese men like this.

>>5531193
bunny butthurt.

>>5531077
weight problem? are you... serious? you go to an anime con where people are 3x her size and you say she has a weight problem? bitch crawl back into your butthurt hole.

>>5530770
i see hybrid_twist around! he's still in the game! the other names i don't recognize so they probably dont cosplay anymore

...The dance wasn't as good as I'd hoped it would be and they did not block the girl in the dress during Kraehe's solo well. They were /still/ better than everything else, though - I loved the costumes and the props.

>>5531193
>You cannot ignore the cosplayer and simply judge them on the clothes they wear.
Yes you can, are you out of your fucking mind?

Just because someone is of a bigger weight or body type does not mean that they can't dress to look good. And if you are to look at cosplay on the grounds of making a good costume, and said larger person makes a great costume that even compliments their body type, but you judge them negatively because they're bigger, then shame on you for even thinking it's not okay for them to be the way they are.

There is nothing wrong with someone of any weight making a costume that compliments them and looks good as a costume. If you're some sort of fat-ophobe, that's your problem and you NEED to keep that to yourself.

I haven't seen the skit but I've seen most of the contestants in photos and I have a question for you, US citizens.
Is the skit really that important in your preliminaries? Because there were some much, much, much better costumes than those two and I was really surprised that they won.
Where I live the costume is the most important thing and even if the skit plays a part, the thing that really matter is the costume in itself. Doesn't it work like that for you too?

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, since most of our contestants end up in the middle of the rankings and most of them are ugly despite being great seamstresses. I'm just... curious.

>>5531658
The way the judging process went was having an emphasis on both costume and performance. Japan doesn't give two shits about craftsmanship out there, but we do in the US, so we wanted to be able to send someone out there with great costumes paired with an amazing performance. There were a lot of skits at the prelims that would have easily won something in a masquerade, and this prelim was one of the best events I had a pleasure of attending, everyone brought their A game.

>>5531658

Yes, it is.

What country are you from?

>>5531658

Here the skit is definitely the most important element. At WCS in Japan, they don't care as much as craftsmanship and don't even look at your costumes up close. It all comes down to how entertaining your skit is and what you look like on stage.

>>5531658

No, the skit is about 80% of what gets you chosen. The craftmanship part is mostly about making sure that you legitimently made your own costume.

The ideal winner would have both an awesome costume and an awesome skit, but quite honestly in USA you could win in a school fuku, just as long as your skit evoked some sort of emotion.

>>5531695
Eh, not necessarily. The thing about placing an emphasis on craft and performance is that if you have a costume that isn't dynamic on the stage, it's not going to have the same wow factor. I know that if I saw a fuku on stage with a great skit, I would still probably be underwhelmed due to the costume, which is why trying to find a happy medium between craft and performance is so tricky. But that's just my personal opinion. Luckily, everyone brought costumes that worked well for the stage at Katsu.

>>5531698

Right but if you had to pick between 20 yards of chiffon and 1500 swarovski crystals who did a glorified walk on, versus a school fuku or simple kimono (like watanuki last year) with a very thoughtful and emotional skit, the plane shit would win out.

That is just how it is here. Costumes alone I bet the one Trinity Blood group would win, but when you consider the skit, 2 of the 3 top groups had rather underwhelming costumes. (Sorry but the Beldandy was just awesome, the tutu and utena were sorta bland - im sure they were sewn amazingly).

>>5531698

Whats the deal with all the dancing skits winning. All 3 of the top were pretty much dance skits. Why don't action skits ever do well, they always place in Japan. Maybe we never win because we never pick a skit that would do well over there?

>>5531723
At least the Tutu skit made sense that it was a dancing skit. The other two were horrible.

>>5531723

Most skits at the Katsu prelims were just dance skits.

>>5531217
I doubt that. The people who enter WCS are cosplayers who want attention and think being in WCS will give them said fame. Getting a plane ride to Tokyo isn't that big of a deal.

>>5531240
You make the strange assumption that disliking how fat people look in cosplay is something that only I share. This is the natural reaction. It has nothing to do with whatever silly rationalizations you want to dream up.

>>5531320
That never happened.

>>5531627
It is a very limiting mindset as a cosplayer not to understand that how much the way you look plays an important part of cosplay. It has nothing to do with hating fat people or whatever civil rights propaganda you wish to create, it's a simple fact of cosplay. Cosplayers in Asia understand this, which is why they are admired. Unfortunately, too many Western cosplayers are stuck inside a philosophy that you can ignore the way you look, do anything you wish, and people will still pat you on the back and pretend you did a great job because everyone's a winner and nobody can be mean.

Cosplay is a fantasy of human beauty as it pertains to anime and manga. Not a sewing circle.

>>5531689
Skill and craftsmanship okay to have as criteria, but the person also needs to look impressive as well. And ignoring the virtues upheld from a Japanese standpoint for a Japanese contest in favor of a US standpoint of sewing elitism is a sure-fire way to ensure the contestants do not win. There is a reason the Asian cosplay community values beauty in cosplay so much, and they aren't wrong.

>>5531723
I like to call these preliminaries as WCS: Tango. Its just easier to do a dancing skit with two people as opposed to a fighting skit. I personally would LOVE to see a fighting skit with people who are training in some sort of martial arts or stage fighting to come out and do a performance. Lord knows I lovelovelove the fighting stuff the Koreans like to do, but we can't really do much if there is such a limited pool of fighters trying out for WCS in the US.

>>5531734
>This is the natural reaction
Then why don't I react so? Am I unnatural?

Fuck you bunny, don't be a cunt.

>fantasy of human beauty
Then why do people cosplay as Usopp or any other not pretty character? Just because you only see one aspect of beauty don't make me wrong for finding beauty in a cockroach, so fuck you and your high horse.

>>5531734

Oh look, it's the love child of Proud Asian.

>>5531743
Like the others in this thread, you're trying to be supportive and apologetic. You wish to forsake truth for kindness. Being overweight is not a flattering thing and neither of these cosplayers are going to impress anyone in Japan during WCS.

As for characters like Usopp, obviously there are some exceptions such as that. Though honestly, even pretty Usopp cosplayers tend to be more admired.

>>5531748
I wonder who the mother was.

>>5531734
I can't believe I'm going to reply to you, but I just want to make one thing very clear.

When we are looking for a representative for the US for the WCS, we are looking for someone who REPRESENTS what US cosplay is like. The World Cosplay Summit is exactly that, a Summit. It's to bring different perspectives of the cosplay culture from different countries together to share what they do for their country and show it to the Japanese audience. The only criteria we have that accommodates the Japanese audience is that it has to be understood by them. That's it. Everything else is based off of US criteria, emphasis on performance and craftsmanship. Other countries place their emphasis more on craftsmanship, and others on performance, but that is how they do it in their countries. That's it.

>>5531716
>>5531698
>>5531695
>>5531694
>>5531689
>>5531691

I'm from france, and to be honest, most of the skits for the prelims are kinda... dull, here.
I'd love it if they were more interesting, and if the judges were less focused on costumes, just like they do in your country, but from the what i've seen in the past few years, they always choose the group with the best costume and a somewhat less boring skit.

>>5531756
You don't hold the ultimate truth to beauty. YOU think being overweight is unflattering AT ALL TIMES and I think you can work and do a good job with a costume even though the person is overweight.

You're being elitist, that's fine think whatever you like and be a cunt all you want, but you are saying that my preferences are wrong. Can I have some of that dank ass weed, bitch?

>>5531760
That would be a respectable vantage point... if WCS was a UN council meeting. But unfortunately it is a contest. One that you are helping to ensure the US contestants have no chance of winning. And I'm not sure ignoring one's physical appearance in cosplay as even a basic criteria for a set of costumes based almost solely around grace and beauty is something to be proud of.

>>5531777
Oh fuck off already, you're one of the many reasons why this hobby has gone to shit with your piss poor attitude about everything.

Protip: You don't have a single clue what its like to go to the WCS, so stop talking like you're the expert.

Yea, I'm annoyed now, and idegaf.

but.. she isn't fat. She's not even chubby (well, maybe by /cgl/ standards). Shes perfectly average. If your issue with them is that one of them is "fat" then I think their team's in pretty good shape.

>>5531777
shit, bitch. you're treating cosplay like some kind of ballroom masquerade in the 1600s. If you're cosplaying Zelda you could use some grace and beauty but if you're cosplaying Ganon there's none.

Where did you get this idea? I imagine you're like that woman from Uzumaki by Junji Ito that is so set on being beautiful and noticed. I hope you get strangled by your own cosplay outfit like she got by her hair.

>>5531771
Perhaps it is a bit elitist. But then again, this is supposed to be an "elite" international competition. So I don't think it's unwarranted. If we were talking about hall cosplay then sure, whatever floats the person's boat. As enormous a boat as it may be.

This is not abstract artwork here. This is cosplay. And yes, fat people do not look good in cosplay. I'm sorry if this upsets you or if you feel I'm being mean to your friend, but there are certain basic truths to cosplay and this one of them.

>>5531786
One of us definately has a piss poor attitude. :P


But in any case, while I may not know what it's like to go to WCS, I do have a firm understanding of the tenants of cosplay and what is admired in it. And contrary to what you may think, the admiration of beauty in cosplay is not solely an Asian thing. People in America love it just as much as any Asian person does. It simply isn't pursued to the same degree because of the popular 'everyone's a winner' Western mentality which encourages all people to participate without regards to one's appearance or limitations. Which, in turn, produces an overwhelming amount of bad cosplays. I don't believe this is something to be proud of and I don't think it's wrong to understand how important physical aesthetics are in cosplay. To ignore that is ignorance.

>>5531797
Perhaps her weight fluctuates or perhaps she just looks fatter in the other dress. Regardless, the cosplay entered into WCS is not a flattering look.

>>5531805
>If you're cosplaying Zelda you could use some grace and beauty but if you're cosplaying Ganon there's none.
And what if you're cosplaying from Princess Tutu?

>>5531797
And that's why I dislike neckpieces. They make you look round as hell, especially if you have a round or square face.

I wish that all masquerades were of this caliber. Not all of the skits were great but none of the ones I saw were so terrible as to cause secondhand embarrassment like most skits do.

Just for once I'd like to see a piece of really, really good theater. But I can cope with dance skits, I guess. Acting is hard and bad acting is intolerable.

Do the winners do the skit they entered in the prelims for the actual competition too?

>>5531826

10/10, you are completely under my skin. Congratulations. I hope it soothes your bitterness over not being in their shoes.

>>5531876
Your wounds, they will not heal.

But no, I am neither bitter nor aspire to be in WCS.

>>5531826
Used to make me mad but I actually understand all the points that s/he makes here...

But doesn't overall look/skit > individual attractiveness in terms of importance in this contest? Looks are important in that you're convincing and have enough charisma, not necessarily that you've got an ideal beauty. Particularly as this is not a photo contest. Things would be different if that were the case.

>>5531903
it's not like there were many other attractive kids in this contest anyway.

>>5531838
If you want to, you can. When we were judging, we were judging as if the skit was being brought to Japan.

>>5531924
Why would YOU be a judge for WCS? Didn't you fucking lose miserably?

>>5531980
Why are YOU so jelly mad? Considering this was the smoothest and best WCS prelim in the US to date, I would say everything was very well planned. Take your asshurt elsewhere.

>>5531924

Judging Criteria
Points are award based on three major criteria. A fourth bonus criteria was added in 2010.
1. Performance (100 points) - Production of performance, creativity of elements and entertainment.
conception/creativity of the skit (30 points)
preparation (20 points)
performing skills (20 points)
entertainment (30 points)
2. Costumes (100 points) - Workmanship, how faithful the costumes are to the original characters
3. Faithfulness to Story (50 points) - How faithful the performance is to the story of the original work and characters
The Bonus Criteria is a chance for up to 50 points to be added or deducted from each performance.
Positive points (10 points each):
WOW factor
Costume Choice for stage
Stage props
General audience catering
Portfolio
Negative points (10 points each):
Costume dysfunction on stage
Poor stage use
Audio quality
Emotion visibility
Attitude

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cosplay_Summit)

Is this what you use? Sometimes contests like this seem really arbitrary, like they looked nice and had a blinking light... so they win. (not to discount the winners, just curious if you all used this)

>>5531924
Thank you, I wasn't sure. I do like it when the teams do something new though.

>>5532003
So you're saying someone is a good judge because the event was "well planned"? How the fuck does that make any sense?

The two girls look like shit and will lose WCS. I guess that make sense since the only thing Soni knows about WCS is how to lose, so she sure can pick other losers.

>>5532014

I smell a sandy vag...

/whiteknight

No one from USA has won in Japan. So by your logic no one is qualified to judge.

Soni is qualified because she is a veteran of cosplay competitions, and has experience with the competition, and above all has a passion for the hobby.

/whiteknight

>>5532026
Dia and FatWetDog won the Brother craftsmanship award.

>>5532026
If no one has won then why the fuck would you invite competition LOSERS to try to select a WINNER? That just further insures that a cycle of failures will be selected.

Judges should be people who know the criteria to impress the fuck out of the people at WCS. This princess tutu crap isn't going to impress anyone. It's worse than those fail fushigi yuugi retards of last year.

>>5532026
The only thing Soni is a veteran of is gaining weight.

>>5532056
Truth.

>>5531897

>I am neither bitter nor aspire to be in WCS

Then why are you still posting? You think cosplayers should be models, fine, we get it. You said that. Why spawncamp a thread about something you don't give a shit about to dog on two perfectly good looking girls for not being model quality?

Seriously, every other reply to this thread is you bitching. Obviously you care.

>>5531897

I'd love to see a photo of you. Even if you're as thin as you claim, I bet you have an ugly face. Clearly your shit tier personality isn't winning you any fans. Perhaps that's why you're always on cgl, posting to bring others down? You're still a monster, inside and out.

Where can I see their skit?

>>5532343
http://youtu.be/7XWHL7PHQP0

Looks like crap from far away but awesome when up close.

>>5532344
Boring.

And yeah, the one in the red dress looks like an oompa loompa.

>>5532347
I hope she makes me chocolates then. Do I dare to dream the impossible dream?

>>5532349
From the looks of her, she already ate all the chocolate.

>>5532352
I hope that one day she will share.

>>5532352

To be fair, all of the teams had at least one fat member. From the linebacker Belldandy to the whale Utena.

>>5532344
That. Was. AMAZING. I don't think you'd really enjoy it unless you really like Princess Tutu or love ballet/Swan Lake, but I loved it and am so excited for them. I love the fact that she went en pointe. This makes me think I should watch Princess Tutu.

>>5532358

Both girls are actually fat though. One is just taller.

>>5532360
But are you going to be one of those dancerfags that flood Tutu cosplay threads telling everybody that they suck? Please don't.

>>5531756
>>5531777
>>5531826
>>5531897
>>5531734
Bunny Mage, I hope I never meet you. I hope that no one ever does, because I'm sure you'd suck the fun out of anything you were involved in. Here's to hoping that no one ever shares with you the experience of what makes this community so special.

You understand nothing about this hobby and why people do it to begin with. Every time I wear a cosplay and I go out into the convention area, I'm going out there to spend time with friends, meet other people who like things I like, and hope that people cosplay from stuff I like because I see that other people share a love for something and want to bring life to it. That's why cosplay started, that's why people even thought about fucking dressing up in the first place. Yes many people choose to put in the effort to look as good as they can be but that doesn't fucking matter when we're all here to share our love of something.

If there is anything in this community that we don't need it's a person with an attitude like yours who has clearly proven that only those who have conformed to an ideal of beauty can be a part of and that those who do not should be cast out of the circle. Cosplay is not survival of the pretty. And it never will be that as long as people remember why they do it. For the love of the shows and games and comics they enjoy reading, and to share that love with others. That's why I cosplay. That's why my friends cosplay. And that's how I hope every other person I meet cosplays.

>>5532373
Con't

So please, go on in thinking that only pretty people should be privileged with an experience that is about being the heart and soul of a nation and how we enjoy a hobby. I hope one day I make it that far, just to prove you wrong and show people like you why we do this.

And for the record. Cosplay started in the United States at World Con and a Japanese Guest of Honor decided to name it "Cosplay". America began this trend, back when concepts of beauty and such didn't even matter.

20/10 I can't fucking control it.

>>5532362
Oh fuck no. I know how hard en pointe is and don't expect everyone to do it. Fuck, I can't even do it so how can I expect others to? I'll stick to being a musicfag who bitches when people pose with instruments and fuck it up.

>>5532373
Give the holier than thou routine a rest. You don't cosplay for some special happy friends club. You cosplay to whore for attention, same as the rest.

>>5532373
>>5532379
This. I have no idea who the fuck you are, Bunny Mage, but you seem like a royal cunt. I've only seen you offhandedly in other threads, but thanks for making your colors show. Now I know whose opinions to not care about.

>>5532363
It's a legitimate criticism for a skit. If the ballet is supposed to be showcased and it's mediocre, then that's a problem.

This girl was pretty good, though. I'm impressed with the pointe and she had a lot of grace.

>>5532385
This. Who is he really kidding? Especially since he claws for the popular cosplayer's attention so some of their limelight can be shared with him. Look for it next time a popular up and coming cosplayer comes around. You will he Maguma act like a dog to get their attention.

>>5532391
*will see

>>5532360
I'm really surprised when I hear that people didn't get it...it was really easy to follow. I've never seen PT but I knew exactly what was happening the entire time, and I really dug it.

The youtube broadcast doesnt do it any justice, though.

>>5532373
>>5532379
You're only saying that because you're a goofy black guy who cosplays with cardboard and know you'll never be one of said beautiful, successful cosplayers.

There is a difference between cosplaying GOOD and cosplaying socially. If you only cosplay for the latter than good for you but don't force your dumb shit on everyone else.

>>5532390
I think they meant running in and saying everyone who isn't a ballerina should gtfo their fandom. If someone is shit at point and is using it for a skit, then yes, that's a ding, but if it's just for a photo, then I don't see the issue.

>>5532390
I'm not talking about the Tutu skits, I'm talking about cosplay pictures...

>>5532390
those turns though...

>>5532400
Apologies. I didn't realize that that was a Princess Tutu fandom problem.

>>5532373
This coming from the faggot that invaded Jessica Nigri's forum just to tell her how much she sucks and isn't a real cosplayer. Get off your fucking soap box. All you do is use cosplay to whore yourself out for as much attention as you can get.

Lol, you sure are writing a lot of words to disprove Bunny Mage. I can do it in less.

If you look at the prior WCS winners you will see two things. One.. that Japan likes to vote for itself a lot. TWO, that the people who win are often not paragons of beauty. In fact sometimes they are even average looking guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6yib9X-0xA

Honestly. /end

>>5532411
Oh, yeah. He really did do that. lols what a faggot.

>>5532415
I already explained that WCS wasn't a real contest, honey. Bunny Mage is just a troll trying to get under our skins. Perhaps put the lotion on her skin, or else she gets the hose again.

>>5532415
I watch this and feel a bit sad. They could have hit each other harder and made it look realistic if they used LARP weapons..

>>5532430
Does Italy even have a LARP community?

>>5532437
Yup, but it's apparently really fragmented.
http://www.larpwiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/LARP_in_Italy

>>5532373
>>5532379
Despite your empassioned reaction, I don't see any points you're attempting to make that refutes anything I've said. Aesthetic beauty is a big part of cosplay. I'm sorry if this upsets you but I don't see how you could with any credibility say this isn't true.

Also, you're confusing high levels of competition with social gathering. Obviously, if all you want to do is roam the halls and hang out with friends then it doesn't matter what or how you cosplay. But if you want to be seen as a great cosplayer and be admired for what you do then your choices are either to care about your physical appearance or only choose cosplays where your body is completely covered. My opinion is that too many cosplayers in the west adopt an unflattering "I don't care" policy concerning their hobby they involve themselves in and it's not something to be proud of. No matter what "fun" you set out to have you should always strive to be the best you can be. Not thrive on mediocrity and lash out at anyone who dares say the truth.

>>5532415
So you're claiming Japan only wins because of in-voting? That's a scandal I've never yet heard before. But if an "average-looking" person managed to win at one point then congratulations to them. I'm not so sure that's a handicap one would want to rely on though.

>>5532428
From what I understand the policies surrounding the contest have changed a lot throughout the years. It's no longer the predetermined reality show it was oriignally.

>>5532453
>Knowing about past WCS contests
>Not knowing about their notorious bias towards themselves

SUUUURRRRRREEEEEEE

>>5532453

This >>5532461 clearly you're not very versed on the WCS then. Belying your own ignorance there, chum.

Also that is not a one off. Go look at the winners of past years, plenty of them are not exceptionally attractive. Must I do all your research for you?

Just give up. You're talking shit with no evidence to back it up with. Anyway, I have no interest in changing the narrow minded views of some moron on the internet. So continue to think that way if you really want. I'm out.

>>5532453
I do not want to add fuel to the fire, but if you look at the last WCS winners over the past few years, most of them were average looking. most of the contestants are average looking, anyway! Even Japanese ones, so I don't see the point of your argument.
That being said, those two girls aren't ugly at all, and even though I'm not a fan of their skit/costume, I doubt many people would find them "ugly" or "fat".

>>5532479
I don't know, I haven't looked at all the entrees. Maybe it's true that the Princess Tutu was the best. But if every US team had at least one overweight member then I think that speaks a lot about cosplay in this country.

>>5532480
Although you use a lot of terms like "proof" and "research" I am not seeing anything of the sort outside of childish name-calling and groundless opinions. Needless to say, if you are going to accuse Japan of cheating then you're going to have to provide a little more evidence then snarky remarks and a pompous attitude problem.

>>5532481
I thought the Japanese winners were quite beautiful. But, as I've said, Asian countries do tend to care about beauty more.

>>5532494
No one accused them of 'cheating'. They like to vote for themselves a lot because they often used to place, if not win. That is a fact. It's not cheating however, it's just a bit shady.

I dunno about how unbiased the judges are, most of the time.

So let me see if I've got this right.

>America's team got selected for WCS and some idiot is making a fuss over, of all things, their seeming lack of attractive features.

It's WCS, not Miss World Beauty, no one cares.

Maguma and Soni are here. Counting down until 4ng31 appears too.

I hope it's more butthurt like that thread a couple of weeks ago. That shit was gold. Pure gold.

>>5532510
Looking at the WCS info, it appears all judges are Japanese guests. So you're saying anytime a judge votes for a Japanese team it's because of a bias?

What about when non-Japanese teams win? Did they accidentally vote for the wrong person?

Pfft. I remember the year a Code Geass yaoi skit won one of the smaller awards, the team that did it was one of the Japanese teams. The skit itself was pretty cool in that the dramatic battle scene and then exploding roses for blood was creative, but they also pushed each other to the stage floor and did fanservice.

I honestly believe if it hadn't been a Japanese team, they wouldn't have gotten that award due to the BL content.

>>5532521

Brazil invests the most money in TV Aichi's WCS competition and Italy provides the airlines that most of the teams use. This is why Brazil and Italy (and Japan) almost always place. Of course they are going to give the prizes to the teams that provide the most money and sponsors.

>>5532536
What about France? Did they provide the baguettes?

God daaaaaaaaaamn I love WCS threads, they are so delicious! Bunny Mage is performing admirably as this year's Troll Supreme, I hope she can keep it up all year long. <3

I am going to say Japan will take first this year because of the disaster. It is a horrible thing to say, but that is my gut feeling on the matter. The other two places are up in the air, but I would like to see USA make it to third, we're due a pity placement.

People saying Diana is overweight... you really do have a distorted view on weight and beauty.

Anyway, Russia is entering this year and their costumes and cosplayers are absolutely gorgeous. Pic related.

>>5532643
good lord, russia is gonna be the new king of wcs

Wait, people actually think Russian cosplayers are "good" and aren't just made of extreme amounts of photo shop? The joke is gonna be on you.

>>5532643

In all honesty, she could be obese, it wouldn't make a difference in that gorgeous dress.

>>5532643

The girl has a nice face, but she's too fat for that costume. I've never seen someone thin enough to pull off that Queen Esther costume.

>>5532660
yeah they totally photoshopped all of the details on that dress.

>>5532643
That is def gorgeous but didn't a large group of people collectively work on it?

>>5532660

Yes, Russian cosplayers do use loads of photoshop in their pictures but if you watch skits online you do see that they're really beautiful and that the costumes have extraordinary amounts of details. The skits aren't that amazing though.

>>5532643
But they have a whole crew to sew their costumes. A bit different that the other countries who usually make the whole costumes themselves. Still awesome looking though.

>>5532643
Oh, but USA will surely win... with a chubby girl in an awful dress and a lanky, big-nosed woman who looks like she dismantled a chicken.

>>5533078
You are adorable.

>>5532679

Yeah, that's the way it works in Russia. Of course their costumes look amazing. It's essentially done the same way as professional movies. You got your wig expert, your sewing expert, your prop expert, and then experts of little details like beading or screenprinting, or jewelry making.

It's impressive but less impressive when you realize that.

Though it's not against the rules that family and friends can help you make them, it's just "preferable" that the contestants make them themselves.

I liked her costume the best.

>>5534196
Trinity Blood? Meh. It's been done a million times. She should have known better, It wasn't good enough to win a couple years ago, it certainly wouldn't now.

Soni, I've never wanted to make love to you like I do right now.

>>5534493
As a tribute to Yamcha... gay.

>Cosplay started in the United States at World Con and a Japanese Guest of Honor decided to name it "Cosplay". America began this trend

Honestly, I think a WORLD cosplay summit should be held in the USA for this reason.
We started this shit, we should judge what is best.

>>5534874
Maybe if the cosplay were based on comics or other American properties, but if it's all anime and manga of course it's in Japan. Honestly I don't really follow WCS so idk