>implying she's not in every good cosplay thread.

We know good cosplay when we see it, no matter if they're fat.

well, I for one have had the hell enough of being told that the only thing I can cosplay is Ursula and that character from Naruto or whatever.

Thing is, we want variety, just like everyone else. Everyone else isn't prepared to accept that. In popular media there a) aren't many characters who are portrayed as fat and b) those who are portrayed as fat are used for comic relief and to ridicule so much that they're completely undesirable for us to cosplay.

>>5527678
Stop being fat, then.

>>5527682

Yeah, because that solves all the world's problems. Change yourself so the judgemental assholes don't have to change their judgemental assholey attitudes.

Darling, I don't think so.

>>5527693
It's not only that, it's so you can be healthier. Are you that stupid that you don't realize how much being fat affects your health in the long run?

Plus, if you don't want to change yourself, why the fuck are you bitching about being fat?

>>5527678
I understand wanting variety. I say cosplay what you want, as long as it's got appropriate body coverage and flatters you as much as possible. But keep in mind your cosplays will be seen as a lot better when you go as a fat character, because it's accurate. You can do thing skinny folks can never pull off, don't be afraid to use it. The reception is usually good when large people use their size to their advantage in cosplay.

>>5527702
YES!!!! My childhood!

>>5527678
Bitching about comic relief characters? Those are the BEST characters. This whole post just smacks of 'I wanna cosplay a sexy waifu character guise, why aren't there any fat sexy waifuuuuus'

Seriously. I don't really give a shit about fat wank or thin wank or any of that, but if you don't like the characters who have your body type, get a new body type.

Aesthetics and the size 0 phenomenon.

Opinions are like faces though anon, every one has one; and they don't always appeal to every one.

>>5527705
>No fat waifus
Kurumi is my waifu.

I hate the : 'So you can be healthier' approach, I don't think those who have a resentment for fattiest care a lick about their heath. If they died and there were thin people everywhere they'd be happy!

Personally I'd love to see more variety in fat cosplay, appropriate cosplay, though. I don't see why only thin girls can be the thin girls, it's the same judgement as the colored cosplayers.

>>5527697
You know, I didn't say I'm not losing weight. I am, actually. That doesn't mean I'm doing it because I'M the problem. I'm not complaining about being fat. I'm fed up with, quite frankly, the whole world thinking they can treat me and others like second-class citizens because of it. I know none of you want to believe that, but that attitude is just as detrimental as some fat people refusing to lose weight.

And talking about healthier. Do you want me to list the health-related troubles of bullying victims or are you gonna google them a second.

>>5527711
Well that's a pretty good point for the variety of fat/chubby characters, isn't it?

>>5527716
I agree largely with what you say.
I think you should be able to enjoy the life you are living at what ever point you are in your physical health or size.

all of my hnnng

>>5527716
>bullying
I think your just making yourself a victim right now dear. How was my post bullying?

I've always wondered what this guy is cosplaying from, can someone tell me?

>>5527732
Ace Attorney.

>>5527728
I'm sure the majority of fat people are not happy with their lives. Do you know uncomfortable it is to be fat?

>>5527731
This wasn't specifically aimed at your post. But the fat-hate in the cosplay community very often is bullying. And the argument "lose weight so you're healthier" comes up so much as a guise for the fat-hate. Like "we only want your best" and I mean, seriously? I don't buy it. So I wanted to highlight that the attitudes fat people get thrown their way are often just as detrimental to their health as actually being fat. And I don't think it's right that you have to change yourself to not be hated by people who you've probably never actually done anything to.

I'm not making myself a victim, I was a victim for a very long time in my life and it nearly ruined me. So now I'm speakng out against the prejudices.

>>5527736
I think it's different for everyone. I personally am miserable at this size. I'm not even that large but I hate the feeling of pulling all this fat around with me. It's disgusting. Nothing feels comfortable and I sort of feel like I'm squishing around all the time.
Then there are those who enjoy that sensation. It's bouncy or something.
BTW I am in the process of losing weight so I hope I don't have to deal with this for too much longer.

>>5527743
You do realize that there are some people that do want what's best for you? No all cosplayers are catty bitches despite what you think. A lot of cosplayers actually have been previously overweight but have lost it and genuinely feel better about themselves, as well as healthier.

>>5527743
I fucking hate when people say I need to lose weight to be healthy. If I weighed 120lbs and ate nothing but cheetos no one would bat an eye.

None you care about my health. You just think I'm an eyesore and I wish you would stop lying to me.

>>5527733
portrayed as
-dumb
-creepy
-offensive portrayal of possibly gay character
-makes other people uncomfortable with how socially inept he is
-shit at his job
-cook (typical role in media for a fat character)

(Coming to think about it, this character is EVERYTHING /cgl/ hates on on a daily basis.)

>>5527750
>120 lbs
>eat nothing but cheetos
No, you wouldn't be 120lbs if you just ate cheetos. You know nothing about how fat is stored obviously.

>>5527736
studies actually have shown people who are moderately over weight (between 5-20 lbs) are actually happier.
I just had my son and recovered from a hernia resulting from my ceserian section.
I am currently 35 lbs over weight and I am enjoying my life right now, albeit I am not obese clinically or other wise.
It is my ultimate goal to get back into my old body before pregnancy and that biz, but If someone is just fine and comfortable being overweight I have no qualms with it. Never had and probably never will.
Unhealthy habits, poor hygeine, and bad attitude are what I really find repulsive.
You should learn to flatter your body regardless of your size, and hiding in the house or withdrawing from social activities and hobbies because of your weight or body image issues really is sad to me. If you are truely experiencing medical problems from your weight I see that as an exception to my originally stated opinion.

Example, look at Christina Hendricks, she is plump, fat, overweight, what ever you want to call it, and she is still happy and finding peace with her size.

>>5527753
there are plenty of thinner individuals who eat garbage, the fact of it is they probably do not eat as much of it as others.

>>5527753
It was just an example. Jeez.

>>5527748
Most of the time, no. The argument is too often used in combination with every other on that belittles fat people. "I'm going to throw the health argument in here because you're incapable of looking after yourself and to validate my prejudices."

If someone who knows nothing about me or my life thinks its their place to give me that blanket argument, I am not going to think it's because they have my best interests at heart.

>>5527748
This is a bold face lie.

>>5527758
No, the difference is, they exercise to burn the fat that they're taking in.

I'm not saying that exercise is the way to stay healthy because if you eat junk but exercise and maintain a normal weight, you're still not healthy.

>>5527771
I know a ton of thin people who eat absolutely nothing but bad food and do NOT exercise whatsoever.

>>5527771
that was actually part truth mind you, many people today who are overweight have problems with portion control (which is a problem with self control), a thinner individual will eat 1200 cals woroth of cheetos and garbage but a fat individual will eat 2500.

>>5527773
>implying your personal experience makes a difference
Ok anon.

>>5527773
God, THIS so much. Seriously, all my life I've exercised more than some of my skinny friends and eaten better than them and they're still "my skinny friends". I really sometimes feel it's like fighting against a mountain and I can't win.

I would hate to be fat AND cosplay. When I was overweight I felt self conscious to even go out in normal clothes. Plus, having to only stick to fat people is a bit sad, especially if you don't really care for the character.

But I'm not about to go around and say that fat people can't cosplay,that's just silly.

>>5527777
You have no idea how much self-control I'm exercising right now now to hit something. Unless you actually know a person outside of seeing that they're fat you have absolutely NO right to judge their self-control. For all you know that might be the strongest person you'd ever meet. Because self-control has other uses than portion control and you don't know how much self-control a person you might see or hear about or anynymously talk to uses in so many other areas of their life.

Inb4, that's not an excuse for being fat. It's not meant to be. I'm just saying, you can't judge someone's self-control just because they're fat. Just like you can't say someone has a huge amount of self-control because they're skinny. They might not. They might, for instance turn around and punch you in the face if you insult them or something.

>>5527783
This sounds like you've lost weight now, so congratulations. But so have I and I feel I've lost all my confidence together with my weight. it's like all the lost weight and hard work on it doesn't even matter. I'm not the person I used to be when I was more overweight and I was a happier person then.

Which goes to show: less weight =/= happiness.

>>5527794
so you are saying you have perfect self control if you eat more food than your body needs?

I said nothing against the base character of an over weight individual. I do not think that they are any lesser than a smaller. fitter, or thinner person. You may have taken me out of context here because I did not say that they are living embodyment of sloth because they consume more calories than their body requires.
If you cannot control your portions, you have very little to no control over your eating habits.

>>5527804
>less weight =/= happiness
You can't say this when you don't know how everyone feels. Maybe that's how YOU feel but others may not feel that way.

Like for me, I was miserable when I was fat because I had been skinny before. I had just gotten to a point in my life where I didn't give a shit about myself and so I didn't care that I was slowly gaining weight. Once I started to get an interest in cosplaying, and gone to a few cons (out of cosplay). I realized that it was a fucking blast and I was happy again but I hated the way I looked. So I worked on making myself healthier and lose he weight so I could do what made me happy.

>>5527811
I think they were just making a statement on the blanket statement which most people say to fat people:
"You'll be happier once you get skinny"

>>5527813
Then they should have said that.

Those of you who are above average weight,
if you're comfortable, truly comfortable with how you are, then do you get mad if someone bashes on your weight?

And those of you who are not comfortable, do you see it as changes who you are? Fitting in? or bettering your self?

>>5527849
If some one bashes on anything about you, it generally is upsetting.
Taste in music, fashion sense, religion, race, gender, etc
Thin girls who love being thin get bashed on and called anorexic or told they look like boys, and they get equally as defensive.

>>5527781

You might think this, but you're obviously still eating more than they are, otherwise you wouldn't be fat now would you?

I have no problem with anyone of any size who is truly comfortable with their own body, I just hate when they have to bring up other body types when 'defending' themselves. "Real women have curves" and such. Maybe it sounds silly, but hating on skinny people isn't right either.

Main thing is, fatties complain about being fat, and then bitch about it when someone then says "dont be fat".

You dont suddenly just wake up overweight. Its your fault your fat.

>>5527779
No, I was just sharing what I've seen.

>>5527863
Not the same person you were talking to but I have asked one skinny friend who doesn't exercise, ever, in particular what he eats in a single day (and not just every once in a while, EVERY DAY) and it was at least a thousand calories more than what I eat. Some people were just blessed with high metabolisms.

If he had my metabolism he'd weigh at least 250, but he weighs less than 140. And I swear to you, he eats like this every single day and doesn't exercise EVER.

>>5527863
endo, ecto, meso.
But I agree most people do not realize how much they eat, or how many calories can be in such a small portion.

>>5527877
>implying male and female weight distribution and the way they gain weight are the same
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

>>5527777
My boyfriend always eats a large meal at maccas (Or anywhere), or a foot long sub at subway, and will polish off an entire pizza in one go, he's bearly 70Kg. People CAN only eat shit and still be thin, but incredibly unhealthy.

I'd say that "Blah blah blah, I eat little and I'm still fat," but I just found out I have hypothyroidism, so I can't really talk.

>>5527877

Not disagreeing with you. Some people might have a slightly higher metabolism, but there's probably other variables in it as well. He might be more active during the day, might not be as calorie dense as you imagine (high protein foods), etc...

But that's no excuse for other fatties, "my friends eat more and are skinny!" Yeah what's that got to do with you being fat?

>>5527863
Me, an obese friend and a skinny friend could be eating the exact same amount of calories for years and still be skinny, normal and fat. Assuming that amount is not too much or too little. You don't lose weight by eating normally, you have to eat less (and you only gain when you eat more obviously).

>>5527877
People with higher metabolisms tend to eat more BECAUSE they have higher metabolisms. They process the food so quickly that they get hungry again faster and so eat a lot. If they had your slower metabolism, they probably wouldn't eat as much.

>>5527892

That really doesn't make sense.

A skinny, normal, and overweight person will all have very different TDEE. Therefore their maintenance calorie levels will be different values.

>>5527882
Wow, you're easily amused.

>>5527889
I wasn't trying to say his weight has anything to do with mine. I'm fat because I eat too much. This was just in reference to the fact that just because you're skinny doesn't mean you eat well or exercise which seems to be a common thought on CGL.

>>5527743
>bullying

Boohoo, welcome to the internet

>>5527877
>Research suggests that there are small differences in BMR from person to person. But most studies say this "inter-individual variance" in metabolic rate is only 3-8%.
http://www.burnthefat.com/slow-metabolism-problems.html

Please read this.

>>5527892
No, you have to fucking EXERCISE. You can eat the same amount of food you normally do just replace what you're eating with healthier choices. All you have to do is burn more calories than you take in to lose weight. Cutting down how much you eat is a fucking bad idea.

>>5527901
Fair point but I didn't mention height, muscle mass, age, activities etc. Just assume it is the same and since people are usually talking in measurements of "an entire pizza" and "eats at mcDonalds every day" you don't have to be that precise-

>>5527909
not true, cutting out excess calories is a very efficient way of loosing weight.
Eat high protein, cut low on carbs and fats.
If you work out and eat at a deficiet you will loose even more. I have lost loads of the baby weight this way.

>>5527873
On that note. You don't just suddenly wake up skinny again either. But that is what a lot of non-fat people seem to expect. Some people chip away at their weight for a long time (healthily for a lifestyle change that keeps the weight off, not with 4-week unrealistic crash-diets that lose all effect once you inevitably eat differently again). And no one seems to get how fucking demotivational it is during the process hearing left, right and centre how nothing you do is good enough.

"Stop being fat" is a really stupid thing to say. It doesn't work that way and the more you expect it to from an overweight person who is trying to lose weight, the harder it gets for them to actually do it.

>>5527914
Then you're compromising your nutritional needs. Are you seriously saying that you can lose REAL fat without exercising?

>>5527909

Actually no, you're in the wrong here. Weight mainly fat loss is driven primarily through a caloric deficit in a diet. Exercise can help, and is advisable. But the key to losing weight is consuming less calories, the volume of food doesn't matter.

>>5527849
So... a person who is comfortable with themselves isn't allowed to be upset if someone else says something upsetting to or about them? I don't think emotions work the way you think they do.

>>5527919
>implying exercise doesn't burn the calories

The truth is, you can't just have one or the other to lose weight, you have to do BOTH to get effective results AND be healthy.

>>5527917
As opposed to FAKE fat?
There is some leeway between eating just right and not enough. You can skip 500 calories a day without becoming sick and ana or you can burn 500 calories more. Both is fine.

>>5527917
yes. yes I am.
It works, and as long as you are eating enough protein, your body will stave away from cannibalising muscle, because fat burn for higher energy than muscle does.

loosing weight largely is diet, and a deficit is a sure fire way to loose the weight.

Why does it always end up in nutrition? I'm curious, although I don't think every fat person wants to be fat, and that would certainly warrant some weight loss, there are those people who legit don't mind being a chub.

Morally/Ethically what is the bad thing about fat people?

Er, in the cosplay world how is that a terrible thing? If they were to stick to appropriate cosplay?

>>5527915

You'll find that most fat haters generally hate people who have accepted their fattyness and blame others for their weight. People are generally really positive about fatties actually bettering themselves. >>>/fit/ is the one of the most brutal boards, but will gladly give out advice to people genuinely wanting to improve their lifestyle.

>>5527904
If this problem were confined to the internet, the world would be a better place. Don't think for a minute your sarcasm impresses anyone.

>>5527924
not true, you can eat healthy at a deficiet and only be moderately active and loose weight.
or you can burn enough off through rigorous exercise and loose weight.

yes, doing both is the most effective, and the healthiest with the best results.

>>5527923
>a person who is comfortable with themselves isn't allowed to be upset if someone else says something upsetting to or about them?
A person who is comfortable with themself isn't going to get upset; they are mutually exclusive traits.

>>5527924

You can just eat less calories to loose weight. But agree you need to get your diet and exercise sorted if you want to be healthy.

>>5527932
that is just plain incorrect really, if you like something and some one bashes you for it it is going to sting regardless. We take what our peers say and digest it, being comfortable and confident is different than being socially numb or just plain not giving a fuck.

>>5527936
I don't think "liking" something and being comfortable as you are are quite on the same level. It takes confidence as a person to be comfortable in your own body and it takes other opinions of you to build that up.
Liking things is just.. "I like this, this is awesome." You can defend what you like.
But being confident of yourself when someone is bashing you for you is something else.

I've had my interests bashed before and it bothers me so I defend them.
I've been bashed for being gay but it doesn't bother me. It's two different things.

>>5527935
I wasn't implying that you can't lose weight if you do one or the other, but it won't make you a healthier person. Like others have said, you can be unhealthy and skinny as well so even if you are losing weight, it doesn't mean your automatically healthy.

>>5527915

No, actually, I will not and have never found that. Most people on the internet and off will not even see (in internet terms acknowledge) that you've lost some weight. They'll see the weight you still have to lose to fit into their idea of what is aesthetically acceptable and you'll still get the same hate day in day out. Even when you're close to skinny there's no acceptance until you're at almost underweight level.

>>5527942
I think the things we like (What interests us, what we spend out time and money on), out lifestyle choices (being thin/fit or overweight, hetero or homosexual), are all part of character.
You may think that the style of clothes you wear, the music you listen to, the tele you watch, w/e doesn't reflect on your over all character but I do.

I am glad that you accept yourself enough not to care about what people say about your sexual preference, grats.

>>5527954
Please please please quickly correct that you don't think sexual orientation is a lifestyle choice. I don't think you meant that, but you're probably gonna be dogpiled any second now.

>>5527954
>lifestyle choices
>hetero or homosexual
Oh boy, here we go.

>>5527957
I stand by that. You may have homo or hetero feelings, but you choose to act on them
I am not saying that you choose which gender you sexually prefer, just you choose to express it.

>>5527932
Oh wow. No, they are not. This is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

>>5527957
>sexual attraction
>NEVER a lifestyle choice
It can be a lifestyle choice or a person can be born with that kind of wiring. It's not all 'either or' like that. There's nothing proving that ALL homosexuals are born gay.

>>5527963
Uh, hello, yes? Because the other choice is to live your life as a lie and in total unhappiness because you're repressing/forcing yourself to deny what makes you happy.

But no, no one says someone is chosing to act on their heterosexuality. Because that's still "the norm". It's just someone is straight. End of, and that's fine. Someone is anything other than straight "Oh, but they choose to act upon it."

>>5527954

They are a part of character, they make up part of us. But what seperates us as individuals as well is the way we have built self esteem and how it has made us react to people over time.
Friends may like the same things but they can be very different. One may lack self confidence while the other may be confident as fuck.
That's not to say that nothing will bother you cuz that isn't healthy/normal, just saying that not necissarily if someone calls you fat and your comfy with it that it has to bug you.

also thankyou.

>>5527976

I have not yet chosen to act on my heterosexuality...it kinda scares me.

>>5527976
I am just saying, we do choose to act heterosexually. Feelings of sexual preference in itself is not a choice, that cannot be denied morally, but showing and chooseing to act intimately with a partner of same or opposite gender is.

I didn't say anything about the emotion aspect of suppressing your wants/feelings/desires, and I am not denying that the option of suppressing or denying those urges is a hard and often lethal choice. But the same could be said about some one who feels pedo.

I actually agree with what PP+1 said.

I'm not quite sure why there are so many disputes over "lifestyle choice" over gays. I like what I like and I chose to act on it. Although I knew that I liked it since I was young.

There are no scientific facts but I know myself.

....This thread has taken a strange turn.

>>5527993

Yes it has.

Then I think I'll be going to bed.

Good night.

>>5527989
But... if I "chose" to act homosexually, as a heterosexual female... I dunno, it just wouldn't work that way. I'm just NOT attracted to other girls. I wouldn't get aroused the way I do with a guy or feel the same attraction. Like, I can see a girl and think, oh, she's pretty. Sure. But that doesn't mean I could act sexually with her. But say I see a guy and think oh, he's hot I could totally imagine having sex with him right now.

Like, i don't think I could CHOOSE to act homosexually. It just doesn't make sense.