>>5481995
There's actually a guy named "Dick Swaab?"

Wow, that's got to suck.

I don't understand the point of this documentary. From all the previews that I watched it appeared to be discussing attraction to teenagers, which is not pedophilia, and is considered pretty normal.

Where can I watch this?

>>5482279
Not in the US, in fact that is exactly why they use 20+ year olds to play high schoolers.

>>5482279
In the US, if you're sexually attracted to anyone under the age of 18, you're a pedophile. Some states it's 17 but still.

>>5482286
The US is a backwards country filled with moralistic idiots who have no understanding of proper terms like hebephilia and ephebophilia and base their morals on the legal system of their country. The rest of the civilized world doesn't make such stupid mistakes.

But the reason they have 20+ year olds play high schoolers is because teenagers are ugly and usually bad actors. Also because it's hollywood.

>>5482292
Actually only a handful of states have their laws set at 18, most are at 16 and the rest 17. But people in the us are too stupid to even learn the law of their states, and believe whatever they see on tv.

>>5482279
I also noticed it only touched base on girls who were already ovulating and... Well girls.

Pedophilia, the actual definition, is being attracted to prepubescent children. They're just talking about the legal definition in this documentary, which is not very controversial seeing as the age of consent is as low as I believe 12 in some areas.

It is normal to be physically attracted to something that is able to produce children of your same species, that's how it works, that's how it has always worked. But humans extend how long they can produce children, women should not be having kids after they're 40+ that's why they go through menopause, how humans work isn't natural. This documentary seems pretty boring IMO.

>>5482279
I don't know what the term for it but an adult sleeping with an underaged person is against the law in most places and is not considered the norm. So it's not normal.

>>5482304
No, all US states have the 18 law. But if you are 16 or 17 you can legally sleep with other 16 and 17 year olds. But if a 16 year old and a 20 year old slept together it's illegal.

>>5482308
Rape? Statutory rape if the kid thinks they consented to it.

>>5482296
Children play children better than any adult can. They have adults do it because it's bigger box office if the guys can wank off shame free to the main starlet.

>>5482308
It's called pedophilia.

>>5482317
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws

You are wrong my dear.

>>5482319
Pedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubescent children, so only in some cases would sleeping with an underaged person be considered pedophilia.

>>5482317
I know here in Oregon at least as long as it's with in 4 years and they are over 16 it's fine. (ie a 17 year old can sleep with a 19 year old, but a 17 year old cant sleep with a 30 year old)

The backlash against "pedophilia" (read: ephebophilia and the like) is the result of feminists who got angry that men wanted to be with younger, attractive women instead of their elderly, selfish forms, so they starting a movement claiming that liking women in the prime of their reproductive life was wrong and gave a bunch of half-assed reasons for it. Somehow it worked. Probably due to male guilt.

You can tell that's the reason because they are conveniently ok with women lusting over pubescent boys.

>>5481995
This got me raging so hard! Most, if not all, of the girls that participated in this, didn't know it would get used like this...

>>5482322
Nope, I'm not. I know because I'm from Michigan and it is illegal for a 16 year old to sleep with an 18 year old but legal for a 16 year old and 17 year old to have sex. Illegal for a 17 year old and 18 year old to have sex, but legal for two 17 year olds. See where I'm going with that?

And Michigan is on the list of 16 being the age of consent. There are no states that I know of where as soon as you're 16 you can sleep with anyone of any age, most have an age limit of like 4 years and you cannot sleep with anyone younger.

>>5482317
>No, all US states have the 18 law
I don't know where you're getting that, but that's not true. Age of consent to do porn is 18 everywhere, but consensual sex varies by state.

>>5482335
You are aware that women can be pedophiles too?

>>5482336
and with that I mean, lolitas. I haven't seen the documentary, so I don't know how it portrays them, but it's still a shitty thing to do.

>>5482342
What I meant was to be able to sleep with anyone of any age legally you have to be 18. Like not all 16 year olds can sleep with 50 year olds if they want, it's still illegal.

If pedophilia is lust for kids, why is liking a 16 or 17yo being a pedophile? That thing isn't a kid anymore

>>5482338
>The age of consent in Michigan is 16, unless one is an authority figure in which case the age of consent is 18.

>>5482349
Depends on the country. But in the U.S. there's usually a 4 year gap limit from the age of consent, which varies from state to state.

>>5482347
Honestly I can't feel bad for them, they signed away their rights. They should have asked more questions or done something.

Personally, I love it. Lolita's are always saying how there is nothing sexual about their fashion and yet they all say something about how it's "doll like" "young" and "princessy". I've never met not even 1 single Lolita that honestly viewed it as just clothes.

>>5482335
Source, please? I'm interested to know how society went from if a girl received her menses she is ready to be wed and bear a child - into today's standards in which pregnant high-schoolers are news.

>>5482343
The difference is that it's far more accepted, which is the average sentence for a woman who commits statutory rape is usually community service and 40 year old women wanting to bear Bieber's children is apparently ok but god forbid a 40 year old man state he wants to have sex with some female teen star.

It's a yet another double standards women support because it benefits them. I'm glad they are so ardently supportive of inequality as long as they aren't the victims.

>>5482363
>In the USA in the 1890s, most states had an age of consent of 10-12 with Delaware setting its age of consent at 7[citation needed]. In 1895, it was still 7 according to a The New York Times article.[17] However, feminists and children's rights activists began advocating raising the age of consent to 16 wanting to ultimately raise it to 18 and by 1920 almost all states had raised their age of consent to 16 or 18.[18]

>>5482363
Honestly, I think it more came from women in their 20s bare children better than women in their teens. Not to mention all the scientific proof that our brains aren't done developing until much later than when we can start making children. And on top of that life spans went from maybe 40 years to 100+

It's the human element, but I think anon was talking out of their ass.

>>5482343
S/he actually said that.

Men are pedophiles if they find anything under 18yo attractive, women on the other hand are encouraged to sexualize minors by society. See: Twilight moms, Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, etc.

What would be the reaction if there were groups of adult men who acted the same way around Selena Gomez or Miranda Cosgrove?

>>5482363
One obvious and non-controversial cause is the long extension of childhood in the 19th and 20th centuries. We now live longer and have a much longer concept of childhood than earlier people, both for girls and for boys. Boys don't go to work full time when they are 12 years old anymore either.

>>5482370
Humans managed to live over 80 years, the average was 40 because lots of people died young

>>5482376
And there are humans now who can live to 150, 70-80 is still the average because people die young.

>>5482378
Kids' mortality was incredibly higher than now you know that, right? Your analogy doesn't make sense.

>>5482376
The percent of people who lived until age 60 in around 1000 AD was 10%. The idea of a long childhood did not exist at that time.

>>5482371
Idol otakus

>>5482370
>Honestly, I think it more came from women in their 20s bare children better than women in their teens.

Unsurprisingly, it has nothing to do with prospects for childbirth or any understandable reason. It's just crones desperate to keep men wanting them instead of their far more attractive counterparts.

>>5482383
The idea of a "long childhood" didn't exist until the mid 20th century.

>>5482391
Because most people died in their 30s and 40s?

>>5482388
That is the exact point I was making here:
>>5482373

I brought up the percentage of people living to a relatively "old" age to refute the comment here which was a kind of logical non-sequitur >>5482376

Older men who find lolis attractive are not pedos. These girls look nothing like little girls. Teens maybe but not girls under 12. And I'm not talking about the way their dressed, I'm talking about their features and body.

>>5482395
In western society it's not ok for men to like anything that looks younger than they do.

>>5482397
But it's not illegal. The law cannot do anything if a 30 yr old man is dating an 18 yo loli who looks like she's 14.

>>5482393
Because society went through tremendous changes brought on by a variety of factors following the industrial revolution.

>>5482398
Most people wish it were, and you can bet they will get harassed and mistreated for it.

>>5482400
When I was 19 I dated a 28 year old for almost 3 years. Not many shits were given.

>>5482397
Still not considered pedophilia. Like someone else said above, pedophilia refers to an adult who is sexually attracted to a child 12 or younger.

>>5482400
Um, not really. If a girl is 18, she's considered an adult, therefore able to go out with whoever she wants, no matter their age. Doesn't matter if she looks young, he fact is she isn't that young and people shouldn't really give a shit what a consenting adult does with her love life.

>>5482402
No. I know 12 year olds who are regular on their periods and have DD boobs. Pedophila is the sexual attraction to a prepubescent child, any age. If you haven't hit puberty and someone wants to fuck you they are a pedophile.

>>5482408
So if a nine year old has gone through puberty (it's happening that young a lot now) and an older man is attracted to her sexually, he's not a pedophile?

>>5482412
No.

>>5482408
In that case, it's still illegal for anyone over 16 to have sex with that 12 year old.

>>5482415
That makes me extremely sad.

>>5482412
No. If you have gone through puberty you aren't a prepubescent child anymore.

>>5482412
Not in a psychological sense. Pedophilia, as a paraphilia, described in the DSM-IV: The presence of sexually arousing fantasies, behaviors or urges that involve some kind of sexual activity with a prepubescent child (age 13 or younger, though onset of puberty may vary) for six months or more, and that the subject has acted on these urges or suffers from distress as a result of having these feelings. The criteria also indicate that the subject should be 16 or older and that the child or children they fantasize about are at least five years younger than them.

>>5482416
The legal and literal definition of pedophilia are different.

>>5482418
But you're still a child. In development, the 'childhood' stage ends at 12. So they are still a child at 9. It's stupid that they base the definitionthorsq the on a variable.

>>5482421
What makes them a child? There are 9 year olds who have kids themselves. That's why they define it by prepubescent, because you can debate forever about what mentally makes a kid a kid. But being able to have a child is a bit undeniable.

It's not about how developed the body is, but the brain.

>>5482424
The brain determines how much the body develops, where the fuck do you think hormones come from? Magic?

>>5482424
But a woman's brain never fully develops.

>>5482423
>nine year olds having a child
That may be, but the truth is, a nine year does not have the ability to take care of a baby on their own. It doesn't matter that they can have a baby, but they have to be able to take care of it as well; which they usually cannot.

Either way, we're not even talking about having babies, so I don't really see why you mentioned that.

>>5482428

I'm referring to maturity and the ability to make decisions and understand the consequences.

>>5482428
Are you kidding? Puberty doesn't automatically make you an adult. It may be physically but not mentally.

Can someone explain to me how this originated, and why a Lolita is is involved in this?

>>5482433
We are talking about puberty, and how pedophila is the attraction is to a prepubescent child. If a 9 year old has a baby they are clearly not prepubescent and therefore you can't be a pedophila towards said 9 year old. That was my point.

Also there are women of all ages, 20, 45, 16, 33, whatever that can't take care of a child. I'm sure there is some 9 year old out there that could do just fine given the chance. Look at those kids in Africa that have to support their entire tribe, they do okay for what they are given.

physically maturing =/= mentally and emotionally matured or completely physically matured

most peoples bodies don't stop maturing until around 17-21 depending, but it's reasonable to say that by 18 the majority of people's bodies are pretty much done maturing aside from maybe some minor growth or late breast developement

so pro-"if you have your period you're matured" aren't even correct in that manner

>>5482434
For some people that doesn't come until they're in their late 50s. For some people it never comes. There is no magic age where you become self aware and know how the world works, to debate that is stupid.

>>5482435
No one says it does, my point is you cannot be a pedophile towards someone who is physically matured. As the definition is to be attracted to a prepubescent child.

>>5482443
No one said that. We were only discussing what pedophilia actually is and not the legal definition.

>>5482441
No, a nine year old cannot take care of a child. No matter what experiences they've had, they're brain is not developed enough to make the proper decisions. And that nine year old most likely didn't have consensual sex .

Adults who can't take care of their kids usually do it purposefully. (unless it's out of their control, like homelessness)

>>5482446
Okay anon, have fun with that.

>>5482448
Well I wish you luck anon. Hopefully you won't be shunned too much in the real world.

>>5482448
You don't seem like you care about childrens' well being very much. Is this the excuse you use when you're hunting for little kids? Only someone with a hard-on for children would say the kind of bullshit you're spouting.

I love it when americans try to build their morals based on their laws, like they could put numbers and words to define abstract concepts. And even worse, they tri to force political correctness all over this.

Hilarious.

>>5482462
Haha, no. I don't condone sex with children in the slightest. Just saying what is and is not pedophilia behavior. It's still illegal regardless, but it's not what "pedophilia" defines.

>>5482335
You understand that most teenagers cannot even physically give birth, and back in the dark ages when women were knocked up by 16, over half of them died during childbirth? They are NOT at the height of their fertility, and it is NOT natural.

>>5482441
The only 9 year old to give birth didn't even give a natural birth, she had to have a c-section. The youngest mother on record, the 5 year old peruvian girl named Lina, also delivered by c-section and did not even have maternal instincts for her child, she considered the child a sort of younger brother.

>>5482470
lol Catholic conservative

~12 -> ripe for picking, by nature's standards

why's it even bothering you, are you a closet pedo or something?

so is this online yet or what?

>>5482468
It's not a question of what the real definition is, it's the fact that no one agrees with the definition. Just because it's defined a certain way doesn't mean it's a good definition.

>>5482470
Most women even in their late 20s and on get their vaginas cut open so they don't rip. Child birth ruins your body, that's natural.

>>5482464
The numbers you happen to call "arbitary" actually stem from the fact that the students finish their high school education at those ages. If your particular country's mandatory education ends at age 16, then age of sexual consent will be age 16. Chances are, your country also has the same "arbitary" laws for determining age of sexual consent, so don't turn this into a stupid hurr durr amurrica thread.

>>5482472
Are you replying to the right person? This post doesn't even make sense to who you're replying to.

>>5482474
Yeah but that's the definition. Just because you don't like it doesn't change what it is.

And it's not like having sex with a 12 year old who's got tits and a period is any better than one who doesn't. Hell I'm 22 and I have tits smaller than many many many many 12-16 year olds, I went to my brothers high school a little while ago... Those girls are developed as fuck. It doesn't change that it's wrong, it's just what the word means.

>>5482476
"Most women" certainly do not. Only about 30% of all childbirths require an episiotomy.

>>5482486
Source

>>5482479
>can't still make a difference between morals and laws
Stay american

>>5482484
Exactly and that's what's horrible about it. It gives older men an excuse. Either way, most people will consider a man who has sex with a 12 year old a pedophile despite what it really means.

>>5482488
You really need a source for that? My god you're dumb.

I've had two kids and didn't have to have my vag cut open for either one of them. My second baby weighed 9lbs.

>>5482488
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1350988/?tool=pmcentrez
Funny I have to provide sources when you come in with your outrageous claims that "most women get their vaginas cut open". Now fuck off.
>>5482489
It is immoral to interfere with a child's mandatory education and force a child to endure adult concepts and relationships. It's funny how you say this is an American concept: the leaders of jurisprudential thinking in grundnorms and natural law has been Germany.

>>5482490
No, it doesn't. Illegal is illegal is illegal, no two ways about it. If you have sex with a 12 year old in a place where it is illegal to have sex with 12 year olds you are going to jail, there's nothing blurry about the line there in the slightest.

People who do things will always have an "excuse" for it, because to them it is reasonable and justifiable. Like those who smoke pot "oh it comes from the ground, it's all natural and safe!" or those who steal from big name stores like Walmart "they make so much money, they wont even miss this stuff" people who do things that are illegal will ALWAYS have a reason, but it doesn't make it less illegal.

Pedophiles are really creepy people. We had to hire this guy at my work a few months ago who was a 'recovered pedophile' (bullshit in my opinion) but he was the creepiest, sketchiest guy. He was a bit frightening.

>>5482494
Last thing I read must have been out dated, I apologize.

>>5482492
>Thinks that because she's had 2 kids she is the pregnancy expert of the world
>My god you're dumb

>>5482495
>mixing moral with laws

>>5482502
You're the one that made a generalized statement.

This thread is nothing but Americans arguing about their backwards laws. Why not argue why the metric system is bad too?

Yep, whether it's right or not to fuck a jailbait that's asking for your cock

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PROBLEMS.


seriously, you feminist and conservative shits should stick a totem pole in your asshole

Lolita is ageplay but it's really not pedophilia.

I was hit on once by a pedo.

He was all flirty and then he asked me how old I was.

Once I told him I was 24 he suddenly 'had to be somewhere'

>>5482517
And might I add, this guy was like 50.

ITT:
>if it's against the law IT'S WRONG!

>>5482522
This
You're all retarded.

>>5482504
Because "natural law" as a concept doesn't exist, amirite?
>>5482508
Your country's laws are the ones that are backward if your country does not enforce mandatory education to end of high school and accordingly adjust sexual consent laws that way.
>>5482509
Children are not "jailbait". They are not "asking for your cock".
>>5482516
Not this far in the thread, please.

>>5482527
>Children are not "jailbait". They are not "asking for your cock".
No one is arguing for fucking 5-10 years old. Saying that 12+ is still a pure child is retarded amerikwan conservatism considering they already start stlutting out at that age.

>>5482522
>>5482526
Oh look, it's the internet law firm of Anon, Faggot and Retard.

>>5482527
You're the one who's putting morals as a consequence of the law, not the other way around

That's not how natural law works

If it can bear children it's okay

>>5482536
>inb4shitstorm again

But yeah, Nature says you're right. Note that it isn't even Christianity that came up with the stupid rule that you can't feel the cock between your tights unless your exactly 18 or older. Must've been Amerikans.

>>5482530
Holy shit this!
When hormones develop, the body gets sexual urges. Since children are hitting puberty earlier, they are having sexual urges earlier as well. Meaning they are 'looking for mates' meaning they start to focus on their looks more to attract men. It's all hormones and chemistry of the body. I doesn't matter if they are mentally prepared for it, their body's urges are stronger.

ITT: Conservative shits: TOLD.

>>5482530
12+ year olds do not "slut out". Going through puberty doesn't mean they are "ready" or "asking for it".

But do inform me of the "retarded amerikwan conservatism" because last I checked, the only countries remotely first world with low age of consent is UK, Japan and South Korea, and they have separate laws enacted for children in school.

Let's just say this;

If they consent, just don't get caught.

>>5482551
Yep, they do. Try to find a non-ugly, non-fat, non-Mormo--(oh wait, they're fucked by their fathers, nvm) girl past the age of 12.


...
You can't. I win.

>>5482551
They are ready for it, at least physically. That's why puberty happens.

>>5482536
Well, SHE can't. The hip bones do not fully splay out until at least 18.
>>5482543
You know kids masturbate at ages as low as 1-2? Having sexual urges != 'loss of purity', nor is it actually relevant for fostering sexual desire towards someone. If it did, paedophiles would not groom kids and get them to wear adult clothing and perform adult poses. They would just fap to pictures of them running around in playgrounds and eating mud pies.

>>5482559
>trying to explain the laws of Nature to a mentally retarded person

I seriously hope...

>>5482560
>Well, SHE can't. The hip bones do not fully splay out until at least 18.

BULL

FUCKINGGGG

SHIT

>confirmed for absolutely having no idea about biology whatsoever, pulling SHIT out of his arse

3/10 for making me go this far

>>5482560
Sexual urges meant for reproduction. You're really splitting hairs now.

2 year olds aren't looking for people to fuck.

>>5482562
>implying a kids body is fully developed or close at any age below 16 or 17

>>5482559
By that sort of retardation, a person with testicular feminization syndrome or kleinfelter's is never ready for sex because they have never undergone complete physical puberty.

The only reason ages of consent exist are so we don't have adults fucking children and making babies which would interfere with their ability to continue education. We've made it a taboo so that it's easier to deal with. It's also why incest and bestiality are taboos - too much available genitalia in your vicinity and you're going to want to get some.

It's all arbitrary and means nothing. They are just laws we've created to make a functioning society, not true expressions of what people really want. Of course guys want to get the freshest virgin pussy available.

>>5482570
And that is true. They don't have the sexual urges that come with puberty so they usually will not have sex because the hormones are not being produced.

>>5482568
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_pelvis
you dumb nigger

>>5482575
>>5482575
>>5482575
>It's all arbitrary and means nothing.

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/thread

>>5482575
>incest
Well, if babies are being produced within families, that can cause numerous physical and mental problems.

>>5482567
>implying babies that discover masturbation do not actively seek out to fuck anything they can
Oh, so those sexual urges for erection and secreting lubrication and achieving orgasm aren't for reproduction? By that sort of retard logic since gay people never achieve "sexual urges for reproduction" they're not ever going to be able to consent. Oh, and did you know, a baby has the capacity to lie at as early as 3 months? Innocence and purity are bullshit concepts. Deal with it.

>>5482581
I really hope you're trolling anon.

>>5482581
Where the fuck do you get your information from?

>>5482576
Yes they do. Puberty is only an increase of the urges. Infants are pretty clear on gender roles and sexual behaviour by the age of 3. People with certain sexual fetishes talk about being aware of it from the age of 6.
>>5482575
>Mandatory education is arbitrary and means nothing!
Cool story bro. School being a drag for you?

>>5482581
Getting an erection as a baby is not a sexual urge, it's called nerve stimulation.

>>5482586
>>5482588
http://www.livescience.com/3957-infant-masturbation-misdiagnosed.html
http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/116/6/1427.full
http://www.ejhs.org/volume11/Newman.htm
http://happiease.com/2009/03/sexuality-in-the-infant-and-neonate-masturbation/
>>5482592
No, if they wanted nerve stimulation they would just ask to be tickled. But a 3 year old recorded by Kinsey as fucking her own bed?

Again, children perform lots of sexual behaviour. Does not mean that they are "asking for it".

>>5482590
huh? Regarding >>5482575
I think you need to read better.

>>5482600
I never said they were asking for it...

>>5482600
The point was that those who have gone through puberty and demonstrating slutty behavior, are indeed asking for it. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

lol slutshaming 3 year olds

>>5482615
But it is a sexual urge. You and others implied that as long as someone feels a sexual urge, they should be in the "legally able to consent" category.
>>5482612
>It's all arbitrary and means nothing.
Implying that the poster's listed reasons for instituting it - e.g. mandatory education are arbirary too.

>>5482624
So the same old urges, same old actions, same old behaviour are only "slutty" if the girl has the markers of puberty? When puberty can happen at any age? How far will you go to justify your retardation anyway?

>>5482634
I was trying to say it DOESN'T mean consent just because a child can experience sexual stimulation. Not every anon is the same person dumbfuck.

>>5482641
You don't know how to read do you? I also said 'demonstrating slutty behavior'

I never said every girl who has gone through puberty is a slut. Please, learn to read.

>>5482646
>demonstrating slutty behavior
If you're already attracted to teenagers, you're going to say everything they do is sexual and slutty. If you're not, that'll be just teenagers hanging awkwardly out of their clothing. Teenagers do not demonstrate "slutty behaviour".

But do go on, do tell me how they deserved it for being so slutty. Do tell me how being emotionally truamatized, being interfered with their education and being unable to form appropriate relationships with those around them was deserved.

Eat your heart out; trailer has been found on youtube; and here is a short list of the credits of the movie:

Regie Jan-Willem Breure
Photography Jan-Willem Breure
Screenplay Jan-Willem Breure
Editing Jan-Willem Breure
Sound Jan-Willem Breure
Music Jan-Willem Breure
Narration Jan-Willem Breure
Narrator Jan-Willem Breure
Produktie Jan-Willem Breure voor JW Productions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCJBwkcStjc&feature=channel_video_title

I think it's just an opinionated dutchman with a terrible taste and too much money...
I'm dutch, and I approve of downrating this asswhipe.

>>5482655
Are you seriously saying that teenagers do not seek out sex? You're saying every teenager that has had sex was forced? You're saying the media is not convincing young teens that it's alright to wear skirts that barely cover their vag with no panties on?

You are the biggest retard on this board right now, I'll have you know.

When do healthy women start aging for the worse? Is it really after they're teenagers as 4chan would have me believe?

>>5482663
What kind of behaviour do you define 'slutty' among teenagers? Just wondering.

>>5482670
It depends on how well you take care of yourself. I've seen women in their 30's who look like they're 23.

>>5482672
Having sex. Is that slutty enough for you?

>>5482673
How? I'm 19 and worried I'm going downhill. Exercise diet, skin care? Aaand genetics of course (damn!)

and this is why I date women
at what age should one start using anti-aging products?

>>5482678
Drink lots of water and get the right amount of sleep (8 hours is recommended but get more if you can). Eating the right food (veggies are always good) And exercise is good too.

But I think a very important thing is just being happy. People that are genuinely happy with their lives and themselves tend to look a lot younger than those who are stressed out all the time and never satisfied with their lives.

>>5482670
The peak of a woman's fertility is between 22 and 26 years of age. Most men find women in this age group the most attractive too.

>>5482681
Some sources I have seen say you should start in your early twenties just to keep ahead of the game. I have good genes as far as aging goes seeing how people are shocked to learn my dad's fifty and my mom is in her mid-forties. They could both pass for still being in their thirties. My grandparents (all of them that are still alive at least) are just as well off, despite the fact my grandfather has Alzheimers and is nearly 80 he could easily pass for still being in his fifties, and my other grandfather is in his sixties but looks like he should be in his forties.

I was 15 when I started going out with my fiance who was 20 at the time.

He's still just as attracted to me sexually, even moreso now. So bah to laws, as long as you're educated about safe sex, it really should be up to the individual.

We don't want kids having sex at young ages because they're too dumb to realize and deal with the consequences of it. When you're in high school, you think you're going to marry your boyfriend billy and have 2.5 kids and live in a nice middle class suburb. At 18 we just expect everyone to get the fuck out and make their own mistakes, because at that point at least they've got high school behind them.
(as a side note, I don't understand people who marry right out of high school. You're happy and all, I get that. But I can't imagine just accepting that you're going to stay with this person for your entire life, theoretically, when you really haven't had a chance to get out and explore a bit. I grew up in a small town where my neighbors all went to high school together and you went to the grocery store and saw your high school sweetheart with his daughters. It sounds horrifying to me.)

Also, you don't reach full physical maturity until you are about 18-20 years old. As in, you don't have fully developed mammary glands with which to feed and fully developed child bearing hips. As in, you aren't physically prepared to have a child until around that time.

>>5482678
All that and importantly, sun protection!