I don't think it actually is her, though. She may be ita as fuck and a massive bitch, but I don't think she's retarded enough to go scamming with an email that has her full name in it.

>>5466634
So we've got a slightly MORE clever scammer on our hands. You'd think paypal would shut them down or something.

>>5466625

guurrrlll dat aint kawaii. Someone teach her how to dress omg

>>5466625

>>5466625
Would buyers be this stupid...?

>>5466634
Must be. We've heard the whole "my paypal was hacked" excuse before (was it that jelly candies girl or whatever?) But if someone hacks / uses someone else's paypal then how are they gonna get the money? I don't see it being possible.

>>5466655
Buyers aren't provided with a seller's information until the moment of the invoice. That and with the whole "whoever leaves paypal gets the item first", buyers tend to forgo worry and leave their paypal. And more than a few sellers in my time have neglected to note they've invoiced you, often times wanting to get paid before bothering to contact you.

It's the perfect situation in which to be taken advantage of.

>>5466655
It's not about being stupid. People post their paypals because lots of sellers say "first person who posts their paypal gets it" and so when they get an invoice from paypal asking for payment on the item they obviously are going to assume it is the seller.

>>5466655
You make an offer for something on egl_comm_sales and leave your email to hold your spot, then a few minutes later you get an invoice for that item, so you pay it.

I don't think it takes a high level of stupidity to fall for it. Just not 100% paying attention maybe.

>>5466634
Keep in mind this bitch was also stupid enough to do this to SEVERAL people all in the same day. So, while her idea to begin with was clever, she is obviously too retarded to restrain herself. I'm sure that makes her also retarded enough to use her real email and name.

>>5466659
They're not using her paypal, they're using an email address they made with her name in it.

According to the EGL warning post regarding her, she's abused a few people directly regarding sales and what not. Doesn't seem a far step to just take money that doesn't belong to you.

>>5466659
This. If it was so easy as getting someone's email and paypal password, it would happen all the time. It doesn't. There is no way to get the money just by "hacking" someone else's paypal, you'd have to hack their credit card or bank account too and be able to draw that money from there and to your account.

Apparently, the LJ account is linked back to the retard girl who kept begging for burando for free...

>>5466676
Uh, which is also her paypal address. How else would they be sending invoices?

She has a GetOffEGL post here: http://getoffegl.livejournal.com/526532.html?thread=36564932

And the warning about her, here: http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/17609503.html#cutid1

>>5466669
>>5466664
>>5466661
Why would you not send a PM to the seller to validate that the invoice you received was THEIRS?
You're telling me there's stupid bitches who just blindly pay without verifying WHO they're paying to?
You deserve it.

>>5466687

Lol I never thought we'd see the return of kawaiibabyboo

>>5466687
The IP provided there is located in Witchita.

>>5466692
Who really suspects something like this is going to happen? Don't act like you are some super human who is always thinking and always prepared should someone take advantage of you, because you're not. GTFO

>>5466692
I deserve it? This didn't happen to me, I'm just explaining how it can happen.

You sound cunty.

>>5466699
skybee8910 is also from Wichita. Fishy.

I got caught up in this mess today and Paypal just refunded me my money, so hopefully they're dealing with her.

>>5466687
just read the getoffegl lol, she want dress for free?

i wonder if she scamming to use money to purchase something?

SAY WHAT NOW!?

>>5466723
Why her in particular? There's a whole bunch of people on that thread from Wichita, it could be any one of them.

Sorta confused by this scammer only because if it IS kawaiibabyboo aka puffyhanu then I know for a fact she's not in Kansas where the IP is from.

>>5466778
God, this whole thing is really fucking weird.

>>5466780
Yeah. I saw the post and read through the entire thing. Noticed people were saying the person was from Kansas based on the IP, and that it may be some chick who also runs and etsy shop and has a lot of pos feedback on ebay.

Then noticed they linked the account to that kawaiibabyboo/babybooboo/puffy's LJ account and though it weird cause etsy-chick and babyboo are NOT the same person.

So either someone has gotten really creative with their scam, or people are getting multiple people confused as being the same person.

Regardless, It's a fucking mess.

Oh my god. This lady.
She is awful. Is it bad that I'm actually a little bit excited to see drama about her?

>>5466786
>>5466780

I don't know anything about this kawaiibabyboo but I do know that the email associated with the scammer's paypal is the name of the girl of the picture posted-- who is located in Wichita, as is the IP.

>>5466793
That's what confuses me. The e-mail/IP is associated with Kansas, but the LJ account used is associated with this babyboo/kawaiibabyboo person who is not from Kansas at all. She's from Ohio, and currently in Florida.

>>5466795
I have no idea where the mods put together that it's this kawaiibabyboo person, I'm thinking they've fucked up or something.

>>5466795
>>5466793
Like I said. I'm fairly certain people are mistaking identities and thinking multiple people are actually the same person...when they're not.

>>5466802
Yeah, it doesn't add up. I think it was probably the flamer that some of the Wichita lolis were talking about, whoever the fuck that is.

>>5466802
It's what skybee8910 claimed, who's incidentally also from the same place as the woman in OP.

>>5466810
Sounds like she wanted misdirection. anyone have the sales post which she supposedly invoiced for?

>>5466818
That's the thing, I couldn't find anything about her, so I started wondering if it was in another place. But it seems kind of weird for her to post on egl_comm_sales about something that happened in a completely different forum.

>>5466810
>>5466818
Ding ding ding

skybee8910 hates Brenna Cecil. Connect the dots.

>>5466818
The latest sales post by Skybee8910 is from January 10th. She claims to the mod that the user was baby_booboo and the mod asked whether or not she PMed her or commented on her post, skybee8910's only response is that "she never commented on my post".

What the fuck? I'm in her community, that girl is legit.

Crazy-ass military girl, is that you posting this?

Lolitas of Kansas is filled with kind girls and she is the one who started the page.

I sell things with her via Ebay and Etsy, she has only one paypal account and hasn't scammed anyone.

This scam rabbit hole goes so deep.............!

>>5466829

This is Brenna Cecil's friend, Elle Insanity. Skybee8910, you've be a constant source of unnecessary BS in our comm for years. Come at me bro.

That sounds too convenient. Her LJ name is skybee and she hates Brenna, so she makes a fake email under Brenna's name but uses the name "Sky Tan" for the Paypal account? It might be someone else entirely, trying to start drama between those two.

I think we might have a really skilled troll in our midst.

>>5466838
Sky is the name of skybee8910's boyfriend

I kinda doubt it was her. To be honest, I think this is just people hating on her because they don't like how she looks. No new story there.

>>5466838
Jeeesus fuck. This shit is bananas.

>>5466830
>>5466829
>>5466818

Not to whiteknight kawaiibabyboo or anything, but I find it hard to believe this is actually *her* doing this scam. As I said before, I know for a fact she's not anywhere near Kansas right now. Hell, I don't even think she currently has internet access enough to be able to pull it off.

If it is her, then I'm going to feel very disappointed. But from what it looks like someone is trying to cover their tracks and misdirect towards another person simply because they're an easy target to point the blame.

Here's a screenshot from the "Lolitas of Kansas" closed group on facebook, even though most of the local lolitas have moved on to a different group that excludes Brenna

>>5466844
kawaiibabyboo was only brought into this by skybee8910. sounds like we found our scammer

68.102.68.72

If anyone can get info on this IP past location gets an internet cookie and proves awesome internet skills

>>5466838
you cant make a fake email thats already connected to bre's fb. the email is NOT FAKE, it just sounds like bre trying to get around the problem of scamming with one bank acct/ pp address.

if she's so innocent all she needs to do is to refund the money

>>5466846
I am the one who posted that in the first place and she's straight up deleted me from the group, lol

>>5466852
I don't think it is connected to her FB, though. It just has her full name in it.

>>5466852
The email used to scam ISN'T the one associated with Bre's facebook, it's just her NAME.

>>5466852
Except the email linked to Brenna's facebook is titled deathsseraphim, not her name.

>>5466858
look up the emaul on fb

>>5466858
It's not. The e-mail is connected to a deactivated Facebook account, which makes the story of prior drama with a fake FB account add up.

>>5466863

Yes, its the email that she used to create her facebook. Its her email.

>>5466856

I take it you are one of these girls.

>>5466856
Yeah, she's handling this really really poorly (can't say I'm surprised) but if this is a for real case of identity theft she could take it up with the local authorities or refund the money. If it -is- her, she's just lashing out and bawwwleeting everything that could link her to her scams

If it's not Brenna, why did she just remove the girl who posted the warning from the Facebook group? If she's innocent and has nothing to hide... it seems suspicious to me.

>>5466851
witchita kansas.
where did you find the ip?

>>5466872

There you are.

>>5466874
She just re-added the girl.
wtf Brenna.

>>5466874
It's how she handles all drama. Brenna is immature and retarded and has no capability of handling things like an adult.

It's just too easy to use your full name as an e-mail to scam people. If you really wanted to throw people off your trail after scamming them the last thing you want is to be found by a simple google search.

The more people flounder and not start claims the more this scammer is going to get away with.

>>5466886

Funny you are insulting the victim instead of the person who did this to her, not just to her, but to our comm as a whole.

>>5466881
We need more info, a name or address would be best. Anyone got a subscription to one of those reverse search things?

>>5466894
Just because someone might be stealing her identity doesn't suddenly mean Brenna isn't immature, bratty and handles thing poorly.

>>5466894
Brenna sucks, but I don't think she's guilty. Doesn't change the fact she sucks.

>>5466904

I agree, she's awful.

So this is drama...this is what I've been dreaming of...

so confusing and very suspicious. I don't think it was kawaiibabyboo since she doesn't live in Kansas. skybee8910 probably bullshit lie the mod.

>>5466851
8434 W 9th Street North, Wichita, 67212.
It's either 8434 or 8432, but I'm betting on 8434.
Coordinates: 37.7014 -97.4405

>>5466911
I know right? It's so surprising to see drama in a Kansas comm. At least all the KC girls are lovely.

>>5466903
Yes, but those are some very different things. This scam is a pretty serious allegation, so it's still horrible if someone's trying to frame her. Just because some people don't like her, doesn't make this ok.

>>5466921

All of the KC girls really are gorgeous. They are really another level compared to these Brenna Cecil girls.

The girl in question is kind of a crazy cunt, but I don't think she's stupid enough to use an e-mail account with her own name in it.

Come on, girls. Pull yourselves together.

Hello,

I got linked to this and I am actually not supposed to be here as a mod but I hope it helps the situation.

It would be helpful if you would PM me with this kind of information. I would have never checked here.

I'm going trough this at the moment, english is not my first language but I'm trying my best. If someone thinks they have important information about this then PM me orpost to the ARC if you want to be anonym .

Thank you for all your help

>>5466925
No one said it was okay for it to happen. People just pointed out, quite rightly, that she's an awful person and an immature brat.

>>5466911
This is like drama meets murder mystery. I LOVE IT.

>>5466920
Reverse search brings up:
8434 W 9th St N

Karl Rooney »
Shelly Rooney »
8434 W 9th St N
Wichita, KS
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8432 W 9th Street North could not be matched

more info here: http://neighbors.whitepages.com/search/neighbor_search?street=8434%20W%209th%20Street%20North&wh
ere=67212

>>5466925
I think her crappy fuck-off attitude is what made her a prime target for this scam in the first place. Whoever set out to frame her probably knew she would react in a shitty way.

>>5466942

And to think whoever did it is cackling and twirling their mustache right now!

>>5466948
You get my internet high-five, whoever you are.

>>5466936
I already PMed you about my information that I had. I hope it helps, and i hope you contact me if I can be of any more use.

>>5466956
Not that hard. That's what reverse search white pages are for. Once this person >>5466920 posted the round about address is was easy to just do a reverse search for it.

>>5466948
Neither of those names rings any bells to me.

>>5466948

We could always roll up to their house and see who it is. (;

>>5466977
Stolen wi-fi? Scammer living with parents or something?

>>5466993
Don't know anybody in the Wichita comm with that last name.

>>5466993
>>5466977
idk I don't think IP tracking to find addresses is not very exact unless you're using real software aka not the free stuff people are using. I did it once with my friend's IP and it gave us an address like 2 hours away from her house.

How was the original IP address found?

>>5467053

an EGL moderator traced it from her comments.

More importantly, my God that is one unattractive female.

What a right porker

>>5467081
baby_booboo's?

wtf you guys
why are your scammers and villains always so ridiculously nasty?

how could it be skybee, i know her personally and shes not the person do this kind of thing, but i also don't think its brenna they are both most likely pons in this whole mess of crap. the real person behind this prob are just using them to hid who they really are. and last time i saw a couple of people have gotten refunded so its whatever know

So there's nothing else and the thread ends?

>>5467109
they wouldnt be scammers if they werent nasty


//////////////////////////////////////////////////////
ponies is a sickness
i cant get a witness

>>5467172
lol hi skybee

>>5467172
I think we have our scammer right here, guys!

also
>pons
>multiple other spelling mistakes

wtf am i reading ahahahaa

>>5467266
Skybee's comments show similar spelling mistakes

>um wow wish i would have cheaked this earlier.

>she never comented on my post.

wonder how skybee screencap to show the mod the pm between kawaiibabyboo... want to see some proof.

>>5467179

Man this girl is nasty.
For some reason she's always covered in a ton of giant bruises.

Razor blade kisses. :*

"ima gonna cry nows"

If you think she's bad get a load of her boyfriend

>>5467332
>>5467321
>>5467311
>>5467295

Hey skybee

>>5467172
great job outing yourself, skybee~

"haha yeh that wine glass had ice and vodka in it till i drank it all that is..."

Bow to your ~*kawaii lolita queen*~ Kansas lolitas.

>>5466846
Am I misreading something? She's saying she's never sold things via LJ or ebay? If you go on her facebook, she has a bunch of postings of things she's selling on there.

>>5467343
Oh ha ha ha.
As if the Kansas comm wants anything to do with her.

>>5467353
She uses ebay and etsy to sell things, not livejournal

>>5467353

Yes, she's lying. I really do think its her that did it. She is a very stupid person, and I think people that underestimate her stupidity are looking much too far into this. The fact that she deleted the girl who posted the EGL post on the facebook comm in the first place kind of outs her, doesn't it?

>>5467182
+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?
Cause this shit is????

PUCKIN PONICULOUS

>>5467370
She added her back right afterwards. I think she's just a shitty drama monger and that made her a target for whoever the real scammer is.

That being said, it's actually really really weird that all this is going down the same week as Naka-kon, the bigger Kansas convention that a lot of lolitas are going to.

>>5467172
>anonymous
...did you actually type that in?

lol alot of people know that skybee cant spell so anyone could use that against her.

>>5467393
>skybee can't spell
>anon can't spell anonymous right

Hello there Skybee!

>>5467390

By the way are you guys going to Naka? Come buy some shit from the lolitas who are gonna be in the AA ♥

>>5467393
you're making yourself more obvious

>>5467393
>forgetting to erase your typed in 'anonymous' name

lol

>>5467295
> covered in a ton of giant bruises.
she looks like a freak, maybe shes into bdsm?

>>5467405
Oh def!! I'm affixing a Lovely Horse Derpy-chan pin to my bow as a wink to other seagulls I might come across

>>5467393

>still using the "anonymous" trip piplup just pointed out

Wooow, you are dumb. I think it's obvious from this that Skybee is indeed the scammer. Because she defended the other girl earlier, it's pretty clear they are working together.

This is going to make Nakakon so awkward.

Who is Lily?

>>5467512

It was apparently a fake profile made just to flame Brenna. They used photos of pixie_late and said they were her or something. The fake account was deleted from facebook, though. They're suspecting its the same person...

Okay, seriously people? Just because Brenna is a retarded bitch doesn't mean all KS lolitas are. We have our own community separate from whatever she thinks "her community" is and she's full of crap. It's definitely her. She's a liar and completely fake. It sounds just like her. Back off of Skybee right now, because she has no part in this. She's one of my best friends and would do no such thing. If you're looking for someone to blame, that would be Ms. Brenna. For goodness sake, she's not even Lolita at all. She has obvious psychological problems and craves attention constantly. This sounds like another sad attempt for her to get any kind of attention she can.

>>5467544
I think its Brenna too. She is stupid enough to do something like this.

Looks like Brenna called the cops and opened an investigation into this. If it was her, she wouldn't have given her own IP to them.

>>5467544
"My friend would NEEEEEEVER do something like this!!"

Yeah, that's what friends of every. single. scammer on EGL have said.

>>5467582

Did she really call the cops?

>>5467595
Could be bullshit.

Brenna's comm

And the other Kansas Comm

>>5467587

That's what the friends of anyone ever who got caught doing something mean/hurtful/stupid on the internet. That phrase has a long and sordid history and should be avoided at all costs if one wants to be taken seriously.

>>5467617

There are two lolita communities in Wichita, Kansas. One of them Brenna and her friends are not allowed in, lol.

Brenna is a poorfag who can't even afford to buy ice cream (she cried about this on Facebook once). She's also a huge bitch in person, on top of her ita-ness.
Skybee is a sweetheart and has the money to buy brand anyway.

Use this to come to your own conclusions.

>>5467790
That's why she's the perfect person to frame.

>>5466829
Everyone in Kansas hates Brenna, so that point is irrelevant.
Plus I'm pretty sure Skybee has never even met her in person, but she's heard plenty of horror stories from the rest of the Wichita group.

I still think it's Brenna AND Skybee.

If Brenna did open a police investigation, she might just be trying to place all of the blame on her partner.