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    120 KB Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:01 No.5465146  
    So, hi /cgl/

    I've been lurking this forum for awhile and I can't help but notice a lot of you (or I assume a lot since today alone I've seen like four or five threads about it) are feeling pretty alone or crave attention from the opposite sex.

    I want you to know I was the typical nerdy guy. I used to play video games and browse the internet for years, read books through all of Middle School without any friends and near the end of High School I had one of those 'moments' where I changed myself.

    I made friends, I hang out with them all the time, made memories and even grew enough confidence to attend my Senior Prom. I had a pretty decent social life, I just sort of got tired of games altogether so now I seldom play them. But I was missing -one- thing.

    Of course I wanted a girl friend. I've had a few now, the first one I got like a week before I graduated. It was kind of a sweet, kind of a cute relationship but it didn't work out for a few reasons. I had a couple more throughout time and I finally lost my virginity, I did all those girlfriend/boyfriend things.

    If any of you are out there tonight feeling forever alone and depressed, thinking you'll never find that 'special' someone I want you to know that you should relax. Sex is really overrated first of all, second of all, many people (I know I did) feel like a relationship is an end all thing that makes you happy (I remember thinking holding a girl's hand would be like this magical thing) but it's not. Don't rush into a relationship, you don't need to be desperately searching for someone as desperate as you are for companionship. Enjoy your life and don't stress relationships.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:09 No.5465164
    Damn straight OP. Hell, girlfriends are more trouble than they're worth. Stay single, stay gold, and if you need sex go for hookups, hookers, or FWBs.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:15 No.5465180
    >>5465164

    I'm not saying to stay single forever (unless that's what you want) but there shouldn't be this mad rush to get into a relationship.

    I still want those cute things like hand holding, awkward dates and hanging out but I remember how much trouble they're worth too.

    As for sex, usually if you get really into one of those moods where you want it, if you fap it usually goes away and you think "Why was I so anxious to throw away (pride/dignity/money/time/effort) for that?"

    I like my job. So I'll work and on my days off I'll enjoy my hobbies, hang out with my friends and spend time with my family. If I find a girl who I really like, who I feel understands me to a degree I'll be happy to date her but I'm pretty confident I'll never meet that person.
    >> Katsumiyo !bSYx8p6gbU 02/07/12(Tue)02:16 No.5465184
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    Oh, look. Another /soc/ thread. In b4 115 replies.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:23 No.5465204
    >>5465184

    It's either this or bitching about photoshopped whores.

    Is there anything /cgl/ does right?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:29 No.5465226
    >>5465204
    What do you expect? This place is dominated by a bunch of bitchy jealous women. At least it isn't /a/.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:31 No.5465228
    >>5465226
    atleast /a/ doesnt thrive on drama, unless it concerns a mod going on a power trip
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:32 No.5465231
    >>5465226
    >At least it isn't /a/.
    /a/ isn't nearly as off topic as /cgl/
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:34 No.5465235
    >>5465231
    >>5465228
    At least /cgl/ doesn't have waifu threads
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:36 No.5465244
    >>5465235

    /cgl/ consists mostly of attention whores wearing over sexualized outfits.

    I'm not picking sides, I don't really post in either I just lurk a bunch of these boards and I call them as I see them.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:36 No.5465246
    >>5465235
    Waifu threads are more on topic than this.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:39 No.5465259
    >>5465246
    Off topic is better than waifu is the point I'm trying to make.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:43 No.5465271
    Hey /cgl/.
    Can I stress one thing for you all? I've been noticing a problem with it in every thread so far.
    BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT.
    PLEASE REFLECT ON THIS.
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)02:44 No.5465275
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    Sure, it sounds all good to tell me that i'll find someone, but I know you felt the same way before you "changed". Let me let you know right now that i've changed so many times, i'm nowhere near the person I started out when I was in middle school. In high school, I changed to win over the trust of my choirmates. I changed to win over a girl who I barely even met. I changed to fit in amongst the kids who were the class clowns. I changed so many times, and guess what? When I entered college, I changed a good 7 more times. Oh, guess what anon? Still a virgin. Still unpopular. Still kissless (unless you count a make out session from the most hated girl in school due to her obvious lacking of social skills yet I did it because she was easy), still girlfriendless and a girl is nowhere in sight. You can tell me over and over "it'll get better, it's gonna be soon" but tell that to someone who is still patient. I've been patient for 7 fucking years and i'm not gonna be patient any longer. I've also been through the whole "don't rush into anything" but if there's even a small TINY chance a girl wants to date me so she can get easy dick, so fucking be it.

    >inb4 hookers

    I said I want a girlfriend, not fucking AIDS.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:48 No.5465281
    >>5465266

    People don't need to be popular and I'm not saying that if you wait you'll get a girl friend, or if you change you'll get a girl friend.

    Merely that you need to stop worrying about it and enjoy life without constantly having that "When am I going to get a girl friend? Am I going to be alone forever? Am I ever going to be kissed or get laid?"

    Because they're all overrated and they build it up. Society likes to put out this notion that everyone needs to 'pair up' and it's counter productive.

    If you're that desperate to get kissed and screwed than go ahead if you get the chance. You may see it's not as great you perceive it to be.
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)02:55 No.5465288
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    >>5465281

    I see what you're getting at, and believe me i've made this issue be less and less important to me, but when you have most of your friends list "in a relationship" and V-day just so happens to be right around the corner, there's only so much buildup you can take before you just have to bitch and whine about it. All i'm asking for one chance to let me take out a beautiful girl on a date and maybe, just maybe, she sees me as someone she can spend the rest of her time with instead of just a friend and then goes off with someone who is skinny and better looking.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)02:56 No.5465290
    >>5465288

    What is your perception of beauty?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)03:01 No.5465297
    >>5465288
    >>5465275
    You're ugly.
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)03:11 No.5465307
    >>5465290

    I don't really have one. To me, it just comes down to someone being skinny enough to pull off a good cosplay and good-looking enough to have someone say that to you in costume. Something i'll never have due to being a buyfag first and cosplayer second.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)03:13 No.5465311
    >>5465307

    You may want to widen your standards a bit if they are locked there. Just because they're not thin enough doesn't mean they aren't a potential partner. If a girl is a little overweight but still was interested in you, you would be okay with that right?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)03:14 No.5465314
    ITT: People feeling lonely and depressed over a comercial date whose sole purpose is to buy gifts for some other person

    What the fuck is wrong with you?
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)03:16 No.5465317
    >>5465311

    Of course. They don't have to look anorexic to look good to me.
    >> Choco-Coco !!mOxKaazUvDF 02/07/12(Tue)03:50 No.5465373
    >read books through all of Middle School without any friends

    Doh why does reading have to be consider "nerdy" or "dorkish"...

    However, having a boyfriend/girlfriend just for the sake of having one is just wrong and silly to me. The whole point of having a significant other is to spend time with someone you enjoy being around/show/give them something you cannot show/give any anyone else and that's love. Call me stupid or whatever but that's really how I see it. Like think about it, would you rather be lonely or hate every second of your life when you are with someone you can't stand? Sure sex is fun and stuff but it just means so much more when you truly care for that person. Or at least that is my opinion on it. For me I'm not going to waste my time with someone who just wants me for sex or is a complete douche. As much as I will get called out on it/flamed I'm perfectly okay with having no sex life unless it's with that special someone.

    TL;DR Really wait to you find someone you connect with and don't give in just for sex/companionship (IMO)
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)03:55 No.5465380
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    >not spending Valentine's with your husbando
    >2012
    ISHYGDDT
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)04:51 No.5465509
    >>5465373

    To be honest not having a sex life outside of those whom you are seriously emotionally connected isn't bad.

    It's not "no deal" when I meet a girl who has had a lot of boy friends she slept around with but it's not ideal either but I'm the jealous type. I respect a woman more when they're selective about how often and with who they put out to.

    I respect you, I don't know where you get the idea you'll get flamed. I lurk though so for all I know /cgl/ may endorse sleeping around. I don't know.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:01 No.5465531
    >>5465509
    >To be honest not having a sex isn't bad.
    FTFY

    The presumption that you need sex to lead a happy life is nothing but media lies and social pressure, mostly so that you can use someone's lack of sex life to humiliate them in front of others, or to accuse them of being homosexuals (not so often nowadays), pedophiles or rapists. And it works.

    >in b4 Betas whose greatest achievement in life was, and will always remain getting laid come here explaining how procreating is the meaning of life
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:15 No.5465553
    >>5465531

    Sex life, it was the typo but I'm sure you know that.

    I don't know about it being good or bad for your health, I'm not a doctor and even if I was I'd lie to you if it'd make me money but regardless I don't think sex should be so prevalent in society like it is now. You couldn't even say the word 'sex' on TV 30 years ago and now you can watch it on day time TV.

    Unhealthy not to have sex? It's probably unhealthy to care, want, and need to have as much sex as most people do. Sex to me is like a perk of being in a serious relationship, not something you just kind of do because you're both drunk and no one will remember it in the morning.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:20 No.5465561
    ITT: betas giving excuses for their virginity
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:22 No.5465562
    >>5465561

    I've personally had sex, quite a few times and with a few partners. I just don't really understand why everyone is so crazy over and so desperate to experience it.

    Yeah, it's good and if I had a partner I'd probably have sex on a regular basis but if not than I don't go out desperately searching for my next lay.

    And why is being a virgin even a bad thing to begin with? What relevance does it have?
    >> Choco-Coco !!mOxKaazUvDF 02/07/12(Tue)05:24 No.5465565
    >>5465509
    Thanks anon. What I ment by flamed is that basically (or at least what I have seen) is that any girl who says they don't do/like hookups and like to wait for a relationship get called liars and whores. Course hey, welcome to the Internet haha. I'm not the judgmental type so hey if someone wanted to go sleep around they are free to, it's none of my business. I just prefer to have that experience be more then just pleasure and it means so much more and feels so much better when you have that emotional connection, but that's just my opinion. Some guys/girls might just like giving/receiving for the pure pleasure, but hey that is their business. Honestly I will be surprised if this thread continues and I won't get called a liar because I am a women and according to /cgl/ all women (especially cosplayers) are sluts. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:33 No.5465577
    >>5465565

    Out of morbid curiosity what character(s) do you cosplay as? I'm making the assumption you do since you're on /cgl/ and seem to have been here for some time.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:43 No.5465589
    >>5465562
    >And why is being a virgin even a bad thing to begin with? What relevance does it have?
    Because it shows you aren't good enough for one of the most basic things we do as human beings, forming connections with other people.
    >> Choco-Coco !!mOxKaazUvDF 02/07/12(Tue)05:43 No.5465590
    >>5465577
    Wow I just realized I've been here for a year now haha. I haven't done a lot but my most recent ones (in order) were Mew Berry, Madoka and Fluttershy.

    I won't lie I totally lurk these threads all the time but most of the time I try to contribute to cosplay threads/help people (like in the suggestion threads/progress threads)
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:46 No.5465595
    >>5465589

    Gotta be honest, I don't think having sex makes me any more social or well adjusted than when I was a virgin. It doesn't really change you and I think it's entirely possible to have connections without having sex.

    >>5465590

    Ah, alright. I thought you were someone in knew from the real world for a second and I was curious because she cosplayed but she did some Black Butler thing.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:47 No.5465597
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    >>5465589
    state of virginity ≠ forming connections with people
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:50 No.5465602
    >>5465597
    >>5465595
    There's big link between being a virgin and sucking at social interactions, specially for men, just look at places like /a/
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:52 No.5465604
    >>5465602

    If you got them all laid tomorrow they wouldn't be social butterflies.

    If you got them laid earlier in life they wouldn't be popular now.

    I think it's a variety of factors that makes people anti-social and their hobbies don't really help. Relationships probably have a bigger bearing on that than sex actually does.
    >> Choco-Coco !!mOxKaazUvDF 02/07/12(Tue)05:53 No.5465606
    >>5465597
    I agree with this 100% As crazy as it might sound some people actually choose to wait.

    >>5465595
    Haha no worries. She could come here since this is the cosplaying board haha. Lots of cosplayers here.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)05:59 No.5465614
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    >>5465602
    I was a virgin and didn't suck at social interactions.

    Then I lost it and I'm still the same as before.

    What.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:01 No.5465616
    >>5465604
    Of course they wouldn't, if they don't work for it it's meaningless. The truth is that they're terrible at doing the most basic human interactions and being a virgin is the biggest sign of it.

    >>5465614
    Are you male or female?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:02 No.5465618
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    >>5465616
    Male.

    I just don't see how the state of your virginity affects how you act towards people.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:09 No.5465623
    >>5465618
    It's quite obvious, sucking at socializing leads you to perma virgin status.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:19 No.5465630
    >>5465623

    >tfw a girl asked me out
    >tfw i would have been perma-virgin if it wasn't for my "good" looks

    i never really could appreciated how important getting it in that first time is for a guy until after the fact.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:21 No.5465632
    >>5465630
    The majority of virgin guys won't be asked out so yeah
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:24 No.5465633
    >>5465632

    i also lied too boot, told her i lost it in high school.
    I was so ashamed to be a virgin at my age.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:27 No.5465638
    >>5465633
    Did she believe you after the fact?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:27 No.5465639
    >>5465633
    No problem with that, girls will think there's something very wrong with you if you're a virgin past a certain age.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)06:28 No.5465640
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    >>5465639
    Not all girls.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:31 No.5465641
    I would actually love to take the virginity of a guy my age. Actually I'd prefer older, like 24-26. I think it'd be sexy. Ofc not just any virgin, they'd have to have some of the other qualifiers too.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:31 No.5465642
    >>5465640
    Most of them, do I really need to say it everytime?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:35 No.5465646
    >>5465638
    i never told her i was. we had a strange relationship, it was mostly physical. she was a few years older, i was 19 and she was 23. i doubt she wouldn't have believed me though.

    ive lied so many times to so many people, im just too much of an introvert to have done it on my own that first time.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)06:36 No.5465647
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    >>5465641
    It's pretty bueno. All the insecurity and bullshit afterwards though, that's not so bueno.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:39 No.5465649
    >>5465647
    All the insecurity and bullshit afterwards?
    >> Pirate Toaster !c1TjLrVNNA 02/07/12(Tue)06:48 No.5465652
    >>5465641
    You need to be so careful with this. My first time was also with a virgin, and he was a few years older than me. He became VERY clingy and possessive afterwards, and that's not fun for anybody involved.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:51 No.5465654
    >>5465652
    Just don't do it.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)06:59 No.5465660
    >>5465288

    >goes off with someone who is skinny and better looking.
    >a beautiful girl

    Ugh, no wonder you're single. Not only are you only looking for a stunning girl (even when you yourself are average and overweight), but you only give a damn about their appearance.

    Girls can pick up on the volatile misogynist vibes, you know. Any woman with an ounce of self respect would stay well away.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)07:07 No.5465663
    >>5465647
    >>5465652
    >>5465654
    I'll probably never get the opportunity, actually know it and want it. I'm not really a participant in casual sex.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)07:10 No.5465668
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    >>5465663
    Why do you want it so badly anyway?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)07:17 No.5465676
    >>5465668
    I don't, it's just something I always thought would be hot. Taking the virginity of an older guy. But like I said I don't partake in casual sex, in order to actually do it I'd have to have some sort of emotional connection with the guy. So with all those factors I just know it's very unlikely.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:07 No.5465860
    >>5465562
    >why everyone is so crazy over and so desperate to experience it.
    As I said before, it is a new way of society to control men. Back in the good old days, no one gave two fucks about a man's sexual experiences. The term 'virgin' never applied to men to begin with, until the rise of feminism... anyone sensing a connection? And there's no way of (legally) taking a man's virginity, since there's no way to prove it existed beforehand.

    It is sad how pussy whipped the last few male generations became. A crippled war veteran is a filthy hobo, while some cowardly prick who spends his days in the tanning salon and sticks his penis into vulvae is lauded as an 'Alpha'. It's pathetic and disgusting. My own grandfather ended up like the former, after Vietnam. My grandmother abandoned him and he died in the street, without any gratitude shown by society. He was treated as *less* than an animal. And you shits think the world is cruel to you because your 'gf dumpd u' or you didn't get to 'tap dat ass'.

    Men are filth, and the ones who accept this and their fates as being disposable sex toys to women are the ones celebrated by society the most.

    I am really fucking glad that this society will eventually collapse thanks to the bulging overambitious dicks of China or some other prick filled country that doesn't bend to our Jew overlords.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:14 No.5465879
    >>5465860
    >And there's no way of (legally) taking a man's virginity, since there's no way to prove it existed beforehand.
    And the same can't be said for women? Hymens grow back you know, like how skin on your body heals.

    Go back to school kid.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)10:18 No.5465886
    >>5465860
    Eyup. Never used to be a thing. German doesn't even have a WORD for a male virgin, 'Jungfrau' very clearly describes a girl. It'd be nice if we could all stop giving a shit about who's had sex with who, because if they're not having sex with us, it's totally irrelevant.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:19 No.5465888
    >>5465879
    Are you retarded?

    The point is, you could, hypothetically, for... whatever stupid reason, use a woman's virginity (=the existence of hymen) use in court.

    Plus, you must be a colossal moron if you think you can get a re-constructive surgery without it being mentioned in your record, or *someone's* record, at least.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:20 No.5465889
    As always everybody thinks virgin guys just want to get their dicks wet and live like guidos with fake tans.

    The lack of sex isn't nearly as depressing as the thought that you're completely unwanted by every girl you ever met and that you'll never get to share a happy moment with anybody. That's the hard part.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:22 No.5465890
    >>5465886
    Actually, same thing goes for English, thee word virgin comes via Old French virgine from the root form of Latin virgo, genitive virgin-is, meaning literally "maiden" or "virgin"—a sexually intact young woman.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:23 No.5465897
    >>5465889
    this
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:24 No.5465899
    >>5465889
    >isn't nearly as depressing as the thought that you're completely unwanted by every girl you ever met and that you'll never get to share a happy moment with anybody. That's the hard part.
    Oh well, if that's the case, then let me reassure you. At least one of the girls would (at least hypothetically) want you. The mathematical probability that absolutely none of them wouldn't make due with you is nearing zero, unless you are grotesquely disfigured.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)10:24 No.5465900
    >>5465890
    There you go then. It's just a symbol of outdated repression and we should all cease giving a fuck.

    >I wish my fetish would listen to this
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:25 No.5465903
    >>5465899
    >At least one of the girls would (at least hypothetically) want you.

    Clearly that isn't the case or I wouldn't have made it to 26 without so much as holding a girl's hand.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:26 No.5465904
    >>5465886
    >who's had sex with who
    nearly love, nearly. using the old subterfuge tactics to try and sneak past the 'it doesn't matter who a womans had sex with' card that you, as a whore, like to promote.

    it matters, deal with it. a guys on the other hand, not anywhere close to as important.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:26 No.5465905
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    >>5465900
    >It's just a symbol of outdated repression

    And it's reemerging as a symbol of repression for the opposite gender.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:27 No.5465906
    >>5465899
    >The mathematical probability that absolutely none of them wouldn't make due with you is nearing zero
    That hardly counts when nothing happens and you're still alone.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:27 No.5465907
    >>5465903
    Unfortunately, you still have to be the one who does the work. Just because you can't pick up the details doesn't mean none of them wanted to fuck.

    If you are really desperate, you can always get in with some crowd (e.g. start pretending to like metal), you will get laid in less than three years.

    Or, if you have some social friends, just go out with them, go drinking, and there you go, it is mathematically impossible not to get laid if you spend time around girls. Doubly so if their drunk and horny.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:28 No.5465909
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    >>5465905
    Well said!
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:29 No.5465911
    >>5465907
    And we're back to "everybody thinks virgin guys just want to get their dicks wet"
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:29 No.5465912
    >>5465907
    >Just because you can't pick up the details

    I'd like to believe I'm not stupid enough to miss things like that, so I can say I had no "missed chances". I simply have not, and probably never will be, desirable to any woman.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:30 No.5465915
    >>5465911
    what do you expect

    you're on a board of women, women who think men only care about sex
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:30 No.5465917
    >>5465911
    No, really, once you get laid with any slut, other females will like you more, since you're not tainted anymore. It increases your chances of getting a real girlfriend.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:32 No.5465918
    >>5465917
    >No, really, once you get laid with any slut, other females will like you more

    It's really sad that it works like this.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)10:33 No.5465923
    >>5465905
    Eeeexactly. And I think it's actually worse to encourage people to have careless sex than to pressure them into not having sex at all. Girls just make no sense man, who wouldn't want to be someone's first? Idgi.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:35 No.5465928
    >>5465915
    It's really frustrating.

    >>5465917
    >No, really, once you get laid with any slut, other females will like you more, since you're not tainted anymore.
    Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think a girl who thinks like that would be a good girlfriend. Am I being that naive?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:36 No.5465931
    >>5465923
    who would want to deal with some loser who doesn't know how to sex when i can just be with someone who does
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:38 No.5465935
    >>5465923
    Well, as I said before, virginity is used against men mostly to humiliate them, ruin their potential political career if need be, accuse them of being homosexuals/pedophiles (it doesn't have to be true, what matters is that society thinks you're guilty the moment you're accused) or rapists (see Strauss Khan - a completely INNOCENT man, he may have been a capitalistic swine and whatnot, but you call that JUSTICE? that his career was ruined, his life was at least partly ruined, just because of an accusation, and just because the media treated him the way people wanted to see it) and stuff like that.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:39 No.5465936
    >>5465928
    It's not like she thinks like that, it's instinct. Society teaches us that virgins are weirdos to be avoided.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:40 No.5465941
    >>5465936
    >Society teaches us that virgins are weirdos to be avoided.

    and naturally you go along with it
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:41 No.5465944
    >>5465941
    And? You go along with a lot of things just because of peer pressure and what you see in the media too.
    >> Dizzy !!PvNtHdrZHl7 02/07/12(Tue)10:41 No.5465945
    >>5465936

    If society has taught me anything, it's that society doesn't know shit about anything.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:41 No.5465948
    >>5465936
    Ok then.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:42 No.5465951
    >>5465944
    it's still your choice to believe it or not

    so no, she does think that virgins are weird, and she came to that conclusion by herself
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)10:44 No.5465952
    >>5465931
    Someone who's adept and confident enough in their own sexuality to be able to teach someone the fun stuff.
    the kind of cheap skanks who look down on virgins aren't too good with that doe

    >>5465935
    I don't see what Strauss-Khan has to do with virginity, dude has four kids. I agree with the rest of it though. I especially hate the stereotype that virgin men are all closet would-be rapists- who the fuck would want to lose it like that? Sure, SOME people might think like that, but if that's a majority the world is doomed. All of the apparent permavirgins I've been friends with (there have been many) have been either scared of women or desperate to make a good impression on them. Neither of those things suggest the mindset of a rapist.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:45 No.5465957
    >>5465952
    >Someone who's adept and confident enough in their own sexuality to be able to teach someone the fun stuff.

    so not a single woman, since all woman are submissive and don't want to do any teaching

    so are you describing gay men or something
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)10:47 No.5465958
    >>5465957
    I'm describing myself and the kind of women I like to befriend, sugar cube. There are enough of us out there for me to have hope that some day this attitude will be the popular one.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:56 No.5465973
    I understand that the average woman probably won't like virgin nerd guys but I expected atleast girls who share our hobbies to be more open minded about it. I hope most of these posts are trolls.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:58 No.5465976
    >>5465952
    >I don't see what Strauss-Khan has to do with virginity, dude has four kids.
    Yes, I just went a little overboard with how powerful was rape made by feminism.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)10:58 No.5465977
    >>5465973
    >implying the women who share your hobby aren't having lots of sex too

    Face it, you're completely unwanted by anyone. Just buy a hooker and get it over with. better to humiliate yourself to someone who will never see you again than someone who will remember how bad you are at sex every time they see you.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:00 No.5465979
    >>5465977
    I never implied anything about their sexual lives.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)11:01 No.5465983
    >>5465977
    Fuck off, we're having an intelligent discussion in here.

    Hiding all posts from this faggot, I suggest the actual virgins in this thread do the same, because it's total bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:01 No.5465985
    >>5465973
    Why would you expect someone to give a shit about you just because she happens to like anime and/or vidja? She owes you nothing; no consideration, no second look, nothing. And neither do guys who like the same things you do.

    Do your own homework, you sad sack. Anime does not make you worth someone else's time, you do.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:03 No.5465990
    >>5465979
    That doesn't matter. They're not going to be "open-minded" because they're going to be thinking the same as every other woman. And to every other woman, you. Are. Pathetic. A waste of time who couldn't even get a single girl to like him enough to fuck. If you can't even do that, how do you expect to maintain a real relationship?

    Liking anime doesn't make someone more accepting of sad sacks like you. Take my previous advice.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:04 No.5465993
    >>5465985
    Did I say they owed me anything?
    I said I expected them to be more open minded and didn't go with the "virgin guys are trash" mentality.
    >> Cloaked Figure !SNIGGErLOU 02/07/12(Tue)11:07 No.5466000
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    To lonely virgins in topic: if you look like this
    <-
    you gonna get pussy.

    Pic related it's me. Didn't go to Gym ever because all I need is my swag.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:08 No.5466006
    >>5465983
    I'll trust your words. One day I hope to meet a woman with the same mentality.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:10 No.5466011
    >>5466006
    you won't because they don't exist

    except on the internet, where permavirgins can pretend they're girls who like permavirgins
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:12 No.5466017
    >>5466000
    >implying women have the right to choose in Taliban
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:14 No.5466023
    >>5466017

    >in Taliban

    I'm sorry, what?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:16 No.5466027
    >>5466023
    The muslim countries.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)11:17 No.5466031
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    >>5466006
    I highly doubt I'm the only girl in the entire world who accepts, hell, LIKES virgins. My best friend is the same way, for one. You'll find someone, don't stress about it. Just approach the world of dating without even thinking about the sex side of things.

    >>5466011
    Nigga please. Pic related.
    >> Cloaked Figure !SNIGGErLOU 02/07/12(Tue)11:20 No.5466038
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    >>5466027
    lol stupid American cow

    I am from Lebanon
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:22 No.5466040
    >>5466031
    Thanks alot, my afternoon got much better now.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:24 No.5466042
    Bloody flag flying in the wind.

    Life is but a prism.

    A burning man running down the hill.

    Steel snow and iron rain.

    Axe cutting through flesh and bone.

    The flesh may burn, but the legacy remains.

    The drums pound, greeting the hero.

    Red plague covers the world.

    Maggots feeding on the flesh of the world.

    The cyclops beckons.

    Song of the Immortals. They dig deeper and deeper. They sleep. Sleep long. Song of the Mortals. Immortals wake. Second Song. Second King. Second Sword. Second Flag. Second Kingdom. The Immortals come.

    FRÚKOR DOU GÁ VALIMANDAR.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:24 No.5466043
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    >>5466027
    >>5466017
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:26 No.5466046
    >>5466027

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

    durrrrr
    >> Radisshu !..Lavieh/I 02/07/12(Tue)11:30 No.5466053
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    I'm a virgin too you know. Nobody ever believes me.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:34 No.5466061
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    >>5466053
    you're from /a/, aren't you? a waifufag? I sure believe you then..
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:39 No.5466065
    1- Slug is so much light than snail who have shell to copy slug technology.
    2- The snail use the shell because is a fucking faget.
    3- snail got crush so easy, and you can give the slug to ur dog chew and it'll still eat lettuce.
    4- shell is MORE heavy than no shell.
    5- some slug have internal shell because more evolved
    6- Your cousin will not want to stay on your house to play slug.
    over 9000- If you trow the slug on the wall, the wall will go up.
    8- Trow both on water and watch which will come up first.
    9- slug at mate will make a slimecord. The snail will show dribble.
    10- All slug are hermaphrodite. Snail is too but because faget
    11 - slug is the name of a bullet. Snail means it is slow.
    12 - Slug will eat carrion, slug dont give a fuck
    13- slug didn't needed an upgrade. Slug is perfect
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:42 No.5466068
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    >>5466031
    Eva Braun - White Knight - Defensor of Sad Virgins
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:47 No.5466073
    You wonder what you really have control over. The world carries on around
    you; would carry on without you. The human race is just a blip in time, a
    footnote in the history of the universe, and yet you keep going because
    there’s nothing else for it. Your footsteps, your direction are out of your
    control, decided years before you were born, years before anyone was born.
    It’s not normal, this life: something is rotten. There’s a tumour; malignant,
    growing, pushing out all the common sense, the patience. There’s the
    madness, that rush, and no free seconds to reflect, not anymore. All we can
    do is study the past, because deep down we know our future achievements
    will be vile. The feet just keep on walking, to where, no-one knows. Nobody
    wants to know. You realise there’s something wrong when your eyes don’t
    want to open in the morning. There’s no window in your bedroom anyway,
    no sunlight to stir the body; just blackness, and the musty smell of old
    clothes, and stale smoke, and rotten food. And when you do move, your
    bones hurt. They creak, like a rusted machine turned on after years of
    retirement. You open the door and those eyes that barely open water weakly
    at the light – you stink, smell the way a person does after weeks without
    washing, but you don’t want to wash. There’s no shame, not when people
    look at you with disgust – your breath, it smells of carrion and death, but
    you don’t brush your teeth because you want to smell that way. Why
    pretend? We are what we are: this is what humanity is without the
    sanitisation, the make-believe, the mask.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)11:48 No.5466077
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    >>5466068
    Damn straight. I am a knight in shining ponies.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:49 No.5466079
    >>5465957
    you don't know what being dominant is. painfully obvious with the amount of 'hurr i had da trainings to be a domme!' you've posted in threads.

    at the end of the day, you bend over and get fucked just like any other bitch. that makes you submissive.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)11:51 No.5466081
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    >>5466079
    Have you fucked me? No, no you haven't. I believe I know more about my sexual preferences than you do, sugar cube.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)11:54 No.5466084
    It's all I can do now, tell people about the way I see things. I wish I had done something more. I know it's banal and overdone, but just think for a second how meaningless all our lives are. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If each of us were to have never existed, it would have made little difference to our families and friends, and absolutely none to everyone else. I wish life mattered more and it wasn't just a pointless journey to nowhere. What kind of retarded journey is that in which the journey itself is what matters, and not the destination.

    You know, I love fantasy books. I always have. For years I've been writing my own stuff, just things that are loosely connected with one another, in some fantasy world where people matter more and do meaningful things. I probably have more than 2 thousand pages in manuscript. I know it's not very good, and it'd never get published or anything, but it was nice to play writer for a bit.

    Fuck this pointless existence. I hate it and I love it, and I can't even break free of the fear. God I'm scared. I've known that I'll die in a short while for months now, and still every night I can't stop being afraid of death. There's nothing after that, you know? Not even an empty, dark space. There's no consciousness, no existence. Plain nothing. And I'm fucking scared of it. I see people who say they've dealt with it, and they aren't afraid anymore, but I'm fucking scared and ashamed of it. God I'm so fucking scared.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)12:00 No.5466096
    >>5466081
    you can't know that i haven't for sure can you?

    but is that what you're saying? you're saying you don't bend over and get fucked? are you the one doing all the fucking with a strapon and shit?
    'cause i'm pretty sure nobody here believes that. so do enlighten us, it should be entertaining to hear you try and tell us you're a domme and in control when your view of domination is probably 'i tie you up and stuff!' whilst still getting fucked like any other submissive woman.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)12:48 No.5466189
    >>5466096

    Oh, just shut up. I'm not defending Eva - I'm sure she can do that herself.

    I'm saying your understanding of sex is flawed.

    >>>>hurrdurr wimmins get it in them so they're submitting!

    What? Wait, what? Also, "bending over"? There's more sex positions than that one, you realise. Also, domination =/= penetration. Domination can be mental, or the physical tying up you mentioned.

    Polite sage for ranting.
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)12:59 No.5466203
    >>5465660

    Idk if that sentence just came off wrong or something, but what I'm trying to say is im always looking for a girl (no matter if she's average or pretty) and every time I find one, they run off to go be with some alpha. I'm the one who's average. They're the ones who wants perfection.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:02 No.5466206
    >>5466203

    Deal with it. Beta guys don't get girls. If you do, you're lucky. If you don't get lucky - too bad, no one cares.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:05 No.5466214
    >>5466206
    this

    in nature pathetic fucks like you would have died out a long time ago

    monogamy and the church made it so that beta faggots were allowed to reproduce, and now that marriage is falling apart women are going back to the men they always wanted; the elite, the best, the genetically superior
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:19 No.5466235
    >>5466189
    >that female dog is the dominant one, look at it get mounted, what a champ.
    >wow she's such a domme, look at her with her legs spread in the air, as much of a champ as the dog
    I have no investment in the argument, but that's what your response basically comes across as. Counter arguments should be intelligent, not opinion and really really bad examples, otherwise it leads nowhere.

    Sage for pointing out the obvious and not being involved.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:20 No.5466237
    >>5466235
    >what is cowgirl
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:23 No.5466241
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    Responding to whole thread: Teaching; I am always the one in the relationship to bring something new and the one who initates the sex. I have dated a virgin in the past who probably was one of the best partners I had because of it. I dont think there should be an shame in being a virgin, in someways/sometimes they have been more responsible. I also hate being on bottom, I hate not having control and just to lay there take it. Ugh, fuck no. I also feel like a women on top is the true original position, it fits better, feels better for both parties, and its easier on the guy since they dont have to adkward hold their arms up. THIS is just a theory but I think missionary position was used to take sexual power away from women. I don't feel like explaining it since it would just be a shit storm but if you know a lot about history it might make sense.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:28 No.5466253
    >>5466241
    >THIS is just a theory but I think missionary position was used to take sexual power away from women

    missionary position was developed before homo sapiens even existed
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:32 No.5466261
    >>5466241

    This is complete bullshit and just reeks of 'hurr i am womyn hear me roar' faggotry.
    >> RedDickies !!BvBZJIM+I1V 02/07/12(Tue)13:33 No.5466262
    You should focus on the understanding that sexual intercourse is a really bad way to communicate anything above "I have a base level desire for you". Seriously. If you're bummed because you aren't having sex, you're focusing on the wrong aspects of what it is to be with another individual.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:34 No.5466263
    >>5466253
    >>5466241

    please re-read thats not what I said. I never said anything about the invention. I said that it was USED as a way to take power away from women.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:35 No.5466268
    >>5466262
    I wouldn't care if it weren't for the fact that all women put a immense amount of importance on whether you've gotten your dick wet or not.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:38 No.5466273
    >>5466261

    Not really, I don't think I am fucking cool or anything. It's just something to think about. There was a whole moment in the medieval times that repressed women, women were revered as strong in some cultures .I forgot everyone here argues without knowing shit about anything.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:41 No.5466281
    >>5466273
    it's not something to think about

    missionary was the primary method hominids had sex for long before gender roles came into play

    it has nothing to do with oppression and everything to do with "our brains says to do it this way"
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:41 No.5466287
    >>5466262

    I, for one, am in no way sad because I'm not having sex.

    I'm sad because I'm alone and all my attempts to change that have been met with laughter and pity.
    >> RedDickies !!BvBZJIM+I1V 02/07/12(Tue)13:43 No.5466291
    >>5466268
    What an overly broad statement. Are there women that give a shit about this? Probably. Are there women that don't give a shit about this? Probably. You shouldn't spend your time trying to invest in the former if you think it would impede your relationship with them. For real, if someone doesn't want to take the time to invest in you, for whatever reason, that's their problem not yours.
    >> Eva Braun !OrYgEquius 02/07/12(Tue)13:54 No.5466319
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    >>5466235
    Now you just shush sweetheart, adults are talking.

    >>5466241
    Interesting theory, but I don't agree at all. Missionary is by no means the most restrictive position for the bottom.

    >>5466291
    Yeah, this. No point getting upset that knobends think they're too good for virgin guys, you really wouldn't want to date those girls.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)13:55 No.5466322
    >>5466068
    >>5466068
    >>5466068
    this so much

    fucken hate her, pretentious slut
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)15:22 No.5466570
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    >>5465146
    I-I-I would like to be y-your g-girlfriend, anon!
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)15:33 No.5466598
    OP here.

    I didn't think this thread would survive until morning.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)15:36 No.5466603
    >>5466570
    He was talking about girls, not traps.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)15:58 No.5466656
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    >>5466603
    A trap is fine too

    Preferable even
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)16:37 No.5466759
    >>5466322
    Why exactly is she a pretentious slut?
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)16:42 No.5466770
    >>5466570
    That's a trap? Bummer. Guess it can't be helped, zzzzzzip...
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)16:44 No.5466772
    >>5466770
    No she's not. I don't even get why it got so popular, I made that shit up myself.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)16:53 No.5466792
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    >22 years
    >Female virgin
    >Single
    >Rather well adjusted, no terrible life-limiting social awkwardness, just a tad bit on the quiet side but can have a discussion about anything and meet new people
    >Have yet to meet the (single) man who I find sexually attractive and comfortable enough
    >Prefer to wait than regret it

    And some of my friends
    >Around my age
    >Not a virgin
    >In a relationship
    >Socially awkward, terrible self image issues

    So yeah does being a virgin and in a relationship really matter that much? You need to build your self conscience around other things than sex, it's much more sadder when getting rid of your virginity is your life's greatest achievement than being a virgin and actually accomplish something meaningful.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:18 No.5466864
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    >>5466792
    >So yeah does being a virgin and in a relationship really matter that much?

    Not for men. Men are far better off single then they are with a timebomb.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:22 No.5466880
    >>5466792
    For women it doesn't matter that much because no guy will call you creepy and refuse to date you just because you're a virgin.
    >> Jebus of /a/ !01jMxbeXFY 02/07/12(Tue)17:26 No.5466902
    >>5466880

    Especially if they're a virgin themselves. Men would not only want to find a good girl to call their own, they would love to deflower a girl as well.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:31 No.5466930
    >>5466880
    No decent girl is going to do that either.

    Stop letting trolls on /cgl/ get to you.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:34 No.5466944
    >24 years old
    >Female virgin, only kissed a guy once and I was drunk
    >Extremelly social, with an extended group of friends
    >Not extremelly ugly or deformed or fat
    >Don't know why guys have no interest in me whatsoever

    Even though all my male friends tell me I'm interesting, intelligent and hot. Probably they are lying.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:34 No.5466947
    >>5466930
    actually I did that just yesterday

    I went on a date with this one guy from school because he helped me with my science project

    cos he's like the top of our uni and stuff, got scholarship and all that

    and he wasn't too ugly either, but that was just horrible

    and then when he said it was a vrigin I just dumped him there in the restaurant

    what a dweeb
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:35 No.5466950
    >>5466930
    >implying they're trolling
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:36 No.5466955
    >>5466944
    because you're clearly giving off i don't want to fuck vibes

    stop being ice cold
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:37 No.5466961
    >>5466947
    LOL, looks like someone dated Jim the swagger
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)17:39 No.5466973
    >>5466944
    Are you approachable? If you aren't a stuck-up bitch some guy is bound to approach you.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)18:53 No.5467375
    >>5466880
    see >>5466973

    In the men's world, a 20+ virgin is a creepy nerd. In the women's world, a 20+ virgin is either a hambeast fatty or a cold, unapproachable bitch. The girls don't have it any easier, most men don't want to fuck adult virgins (except the pedos, the fundamentalists and the possessive) since they don't want to experience awkward first-time sex. Seriously if a girl tells you she's a virgin at 21 I'm pretty sure your first thought would be that there's something wrong with her. That's how women have it. So don't push your beta shit here.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)18:55 No.5467384
    >>5467375
    men don't give a fuck if you're a virgin or not

    really, only men get shit for b eing virgins
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)18:56 No.5467396
    >>5466880
    If you're not Chris-chan, i.e. don't talk about your virginity on the first date, then you shouldn't have a fucking problem.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)19:37 No.5467609
    >>5466792

    Mmm, I understand this completely. I'm in the same position, though a couple of years older. Honestly I just don't know that many guys...comes of attending an all girls' school and then having courses/hobbies that are predominantly female.

    Reading through this thread really isn't representative of the RL world I know though. I know a lot of virgins around my age and none of them are particularly concerned about it. Just don't feel that pressure.
    >> Poolboy !!FxpWWedJUtg 02/07/12(Tue)20:02 No.5467754
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    in so far as i am concerned,
    sex is fun, and nice to have often,
    but is only a part of an effective romantic relationship.
    however, it gets frustrating quickly if the you and the person you are in a relationship with are not sexually compatible.

    that being said, i dont think that a romantic relationship is needed to have one of a sexual nature,
    some of the best sex ive ever had was with friends.

    i think society places way too much importance on sex/virginity. it is fun, everyone does it...we can get over it now.
    >> Anonymous 02/07/12(Tue)20:25 No.5467916
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    >>5467754

    God, fuck you for this image. I was trying so hard not to smoke right now but....screw it.
    >> Poolboy !!FxpWWedJUtg 02/07/12(Tue)20:33 No.5467963
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    >>5467916



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