she's also dating 3 people
two other 'boys' and a girl apparently who hes engaged to

>>5190612
>that she's engaged to
fix'd that for you

>>5190633
shit how did I mess that up

Where does she live that she can be engaged to a girl?

Also, I thought she was committed to the totally kawaii buttsex

>>5190743
She's from Ohio. Area code 330 is Akron/Canton/Stow/NE Ohio.

>>5190743
>implying there's a law anywhere in the U.S. against being engaged.

There's nothing legally binding about being engaged, so it's not illegal anywhere to be engaged to anyone you want.

I'm so happy some one made a thread about her. She has fucked over so many people and is a fucking liar. Ugh!

>>5190514
>>5190762
I'm surprised I haven't seen her around. This isn't exactly a heavily populated place, I run into the same people constantly.

i'm new to this drama. Why do we Hate him/her?

>>5190806
She thinks she's trans but has no intentions to take hormones or get surgery... So she really isn't trans at all and just wants to be a cute 'boi'

>>5190805
I saw her at Ohayocon last year. I don't live in Canton, or even the US any more, so I haven't had the chance to run into her. Not exactly sure where she lives...

>>5190820
Does she go to school or anything?

Kind of weird to think that we might go to the same school. I doubt we live in the same city, though, she's stick out like no other here. Richy white suburb and all.

>>5190811
okay but that doesn't really put 'him' on level with say pt. Is there anything more? I smell vendetta

>>5190841
>>5190806
So newfag it hurts...

Seriously, its been around for years.

>>5190841
huge history of scamming and being a psychotic cunt to anyone who disagrees with her. thinks her word is gospel on "trans" issues. claims to be nip but is not.

just check out her ED page.

>>5190841
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Kazakai

Read up. Scammed people out of thousands of dollars, abused animals, vandalized graves, etc.

>>5190834
Uhm. I don't know her personally, but a few years ago I met some of the people who used to be really close friends with her until she ripped them off on some wigs they made for her. They lived in Toledo and said she lived nearby... So I'm guessing she might still live up there somewhere? If she does, she prolly goes to the University of Toledo... But she seems kinda lazy and like she wouldn't go to school... ^ ^;;;;;

>>5190857
Toledo is 2 1/2 hours from the area code her phone is in. I mean I get that people move and all, but does that mean she's not in Stark or Summit counties?

>>5190841
LOL wow... Try not to broadcast your new so much bro.

>She thinks she's trans but has no intentions to take hormones or get surgery... So she really isn't trans at all and just wants to be a cute 'boi'

Don't know anything about this person, but that's such a stupid remark. You're literally saying, "a person who doesn't take hormones or get surgery isn't trans enough!".

I hope to god you aren't trans yourself, because you'd be an elitist moron. If you want to talk bad about someone, it would help so much on your part to try and sound like youre at least a little educated on what youre bashing.

Like someone else said, vendetta.

>>5190860
Not entirely sure of where she lives. All I know about her recent info is what I read here... It's possible someone else got her the phone or she lives in the Stark area now. I just know around 3-4 years ago she lived in Toledo. When I lived in Texas, I still had my Canton number, so it's possible she might have lived in the 330 area then moved or someone from that area got it for her, since she's known for using people.

>>5190862
Um... she's been saying she's trans for YEARS and yet has done nothing about it...

She says she wants to have a dick but still be a 'girl'

Doesn't sound like she's really that serious about it.

>>5190862
This picture doesn't make me think of somebody who actually wants to be male.

Gutterface has also kept her dead kittens in jars.

>>5190862
>I don't know about this person
Exactly... So don't bash the basher if you don't know what the fuck is going on.

>>5190867
Word. I'd guess she probably lived up in Akron. I'm from North Canton, and I imagine I'd have noticed THAT around if she lived here, especially considering I've been seeing her posted here for years.

>>5190862
Stop saying that this is a "vendetta," that's so asinine. That's like saying that someone shitting on PT or Yaya or BeckiiCruel or meow_tan is "vendetta." They're just seagull punching bags.

And guttercunt is a fakeboi. Defending that shit is a disservice to trans people everywhere.

>>5190862
So new... it's painful. By the way, you sound like an idiot for defending this shitstain.

>>5190868
Not all trans people want to take hormones or get surgery. You can still be trans and wish to not transition physically, it all depends on how hard it is for you, personally, to deal with your physical self.

>>5190870
I'd have to agree with you, but you'd be surprised at some of the people who transition, what they looked like beforehand, or acted like.

>>5190874
Not really trying to bash anyone, but it's kind of ridiculous to say the person mentioned in the OP is "fake trans" just because they're generally a shitty person. It's childish, anyone with half a brain can see that.

>>5190878
>And guttercunt is a fakeboi. Defending that shit is a disservice to trans people everywhere.

Saying ANYONE is "fake trans" is a disservice and just adds to close mindedness.

But I'm gonna gtfo this thread because I know it's not about trans issues, just wanted to say it comes off as ignorant to say someone is not really trans because they decide not to take hormones/get surgery. I can see where you guys are coming from I guess, someone who doesn't give any respect to others, probably doesn't deserve it themselves.

>>5190875
Haha pretty much. I have never seen her before or after Ohayocon. And none of my friends know of her, so I know she's not from Canton or surrounding areas. Maybe Medina county?

>>5190895
that picture is not her "pre" "transition." that picture is her AS MASCULINE AS SHE PLANS ON GETTING.

>>5190895
Again, you know nothing about her, so why defend her if you don't even know the situation?

>>5190895
You obviously don't understand...

She wants to be a boy but still be referred to and dress like a girl... is that clear enough? How the fuck is that trans?

lest we not forget

>>5190852
>claims to be nip but is not.

when did she claim to be nip? I never saw that.

Gender identity=/=gender expression

>>5190929
I don't save her caps and apparently her ED page is gone, but she's done it a few times. iirc she used to use an even more ridiculous pseudo-nip name than joji that she claimed was her real name.

>>5190806
>>5190841
those are me.
I accept this person has done shitty things, and i did say i was new, i just didn't think 'not being trans enough' was a pretty shitty excuse to start drama. The scamming and stuff? Okay thats fair.

>>5190945
Never said she wasn't trans enough

She's just obviously not serious about it.

To those who are defending this chick... FUCK ALL OF YOU.

Seriously... if this is what she wants then she is NOT trans. I'm post op ftm and I've also been to many therapy groups with other ftm's and none of them ever felt like that. They want to be male COMPLETELY. And this wanting to be male but still dress/look like a girl is total BS... So please, stop defending this asinine fuckery, thanks.

>>5190947
I thought she always lied and said she was a boy.

>>5191081
Well, she is claiming to be trans now I guess. Probably because someone saw her vag or something.

>>5191088
I think she deleted her youtube. I can't find it for the life of me...there is this one video bawwing about her "life" as a boy or some shit.

>>5191088
>>5191088
NEVERMIND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut2-C-HU5GI

>>5191103
What the actual fuck? If she really wanted to be a boy... she would at least TRY... you know, disguise her voice, dress like a guy...? I mean come on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSYyYURpyiA&feature=related

oh my god she's so cute.

So what was she selling that she scammed people with? Was it like a commissions site or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJg53YNJ8wc&feature=channel_video_title

>I'm a boy I'm a boy I'm a boy

NO YOU ARE NOT

uuugh fuck we need more of retards like her back up in /cgl/ to overcome the PT, until PT gets some better drama than updating her twitter

FtM trans here. Some people DO claim they are trans for attention. Even if it isn't purposeful at first, once they find out who they are, it's too late, since they are already 'known' as trans, so they play it up as much as possible. This seems like that.

She's fucking hideous without all that makeup goddamn

question.

okay so. whether or not he is a he or she or a heshe, if they are adamant about transgender-ed rights, why are other transgenders against him?
He's not doing it to be cool, he's doing it because its what feels right to them... i don't really see a problem.

If anything i'd say he's more genderqueer than trans, buuut i don't think anyone gives two fucks what i think.

sage for no contribution.

>>5191125
Yes, you are absolutely correct.

>>5190914
>Joji Viktor Grey

Wait that's her facebook name?
Yesterday she wanted to add me to her friendslist but I declined because of all the bullshit I read on her profile.
Funny coincidence

>>5191130
I'm pretty sure she /is/ doing it to be edgy, though. If you'd been around and followed her bullshit this is really rapidly appearing out of no where, and I'm quite certain it started as a way to cop out of people coming to the realization she is indeed a girl (opposed to a "kawaii desu boi").

Trans gets a lot of bad rep already and her bullshit sort of just fucks people's perspectives more.. I don't feel shes standing for trans rights at all, and I don't feel shes 'trans' or even that gender queer. I fully believe the reason she started saying she was a boy originally was because it got her attention from weeby yaoi fangirls.

idk, I hate sounding trannier-than-thou, but everything about her just leaves such a bad, disrespectful taste in my mouth.

Its sort of like why cosplayers don't want to be instantly associated with insane get-kicked-out-of-con weebs who put on a white shirt n jeans and say they're L, ya dig? They also support anime, but goddamn if you want people to think that's what you're like, too. I don't know, not the best analogy... I think its easier to understand when you take a better look at her/her history and behavior, etc.

>>5191175
I've never really gotten that weeby vibe from him, but i can see and understand your point.
Thank you for your answer, for the most part it is what i wanted to hear.~

>>5191178
even though like all ED articles its pretty dramatized, I think its worth reading hers for some insight on what most people here think of her.. if you haven't already

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Kazakai

>>5190514

this thread stinks of guttercunt

bummp

Wow, perfect timing!
She kept cropping up as a comparison in all these ftm, special snowflake weaboo stories I was reading and I was meaning to see what... he(?)'s all about.

slightly unrelated to this bitch(who i will never take seriously ever in my life) i dont get all the hate for feminine transman.

my boyfriend is post op and has done this shit for years. he's legally a male and he always passes, but he still likes to paint his nails and he's pretty faggoty.
he doesn't wear dresses and wigs or anything, but its stupid to expect all transmen NEED to live in wife beaters, cargo shorts and basically act like old spice lumberjacks.

>>5192048
that is gutterface's mindset. just to a more extreme.
in her mind its pretty much if you say you are male, then you are male. you dont need to make any effort to pass at all

for everyone else here have her youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/KINGgutterface?feature=grec_index
some pretty lulzy videos

>>5192060
>in her mind its pretty much if you say you are male, then you are male. you dont need to make any effort to pass at all
This sentence, or something similar usually comes up in gutterface threads, whatever the context.

It always makes me want to start up a troll DA account full of super artsy photos and crazy make-up just so I can plaster stupid shit like "MODEL IS A WHALE" and write really long and drawn out diatribes about how no one understands what it's like to be a marine mammal stuck in a terrestrial bipedal body and that who you feel you are is truly who you are no matter what the outside looks like. If I know that I was meant to swim in the vast ocean and make long, loud crooning moans in order to communicate with my fellow whales, then that should be enough and no one should be allowed to say otherwise!

Also comments would always be disabled.

>>5192073
do it.
this girl just comes up with all sorts of shit to make herself a speshul snowlake
she's "trans"
shes "polyamorous"
shes dating two other fake boys who look like fucking clones of her
and shes apparently "enganged" to a woman she plans on marrying who already has kids and yet she talks about how big of a faggot she is
gay "guys" dont like women hun
one of her videos she lists off all the shit that she claims to be. its ridiculous

>>5192060
>video on how to cut off a dead bird's head

what the FUCK

>>5192174
she also has jars full of dead animals in her room. including two kittens that she took from their mother too early so they died.

>>5190762

Who are you and why are you in my small town?

I posted to her DA about her Photoshopping an adams apple into her images, which you could tell by the warping.

For the next two days I got abuse from all her "fans" and then she blocked me.

I'd like to see her on True Life, but that would never happen because they've done an episode about trans people (I think they were both mtf) and they worked hard at passing. It doesn't mean you can't deviate from the norm of whatever gender you're trying to be, but at least put in some effort.

Otherwise you're coming off as someone like this chick or ADF.

>>5192231
lol I've experienced the same thing.
she posted a journal about how much shoop she uses and how everything they see in photos is a lie
and I was like "so you mean you being a boy right?"
I got a longwinded response from her, blocked, and a ton of replies and posts on my profile from her fans.

330 anon here.
Never heard of him/her, but I attend a few raves and the like a month, which is alll over 330, so if I see him/her, I'll, well you know, get to know them.

No need for prejudice.

>>5190514
>mfw I see we have the same area code.

>>5192442
Move. Quickly!

>>5192418
a lot of need actually.

>>5192457
.I can't, I'm still in school. It's a pretty big area though. I've never seen her in person around here ever.
I saw her walking around Ohayocon though.

>>5192473

I just can't bash someone without knowing them in person. Besides, it would be at a rave, and that's bad vibes.

>>5192495
she doesn't go to raves.

her mom has a sense of humor..lol

>>5192559
Lol fuck, even her mom admits she's full of shit and is just saying stuff for attention. How can anyone believe the shit she says?

Reposting screen cap from awhile ago- yes Gutterbitch. You're so professional with your no job, no highschool, no GED, no college, no nothing scam business that hardly makes any money.
I only work 20 hours a week and I have enough sens to save money and can go out and blow $300 without batting an eyelash. How the fuck can this 23 year old need to beg 12 year olds for it?

>>5192619
sense*

I think this post has made me rage more than any other stupid thing she has said.

>>5192664

>>5192664

I wonder what her "English" accent sounds like. Or any other.

I bet it's jolly horrid alright.

>>5192664
this is such a heap of bullshit wow

>>5192664
No lie my dialect changes too, not based on anything going on but my voice just changes. Sometimes I'm told I sound English. I do know my voice is lower when I'm tired, and higher when speaking publicly or to a stranger.

I would never claim it myself, but I do notice my speech changes.

>>5192678
thats different.
its not your accent changing based on what topic you are talking about
thats fucking stupid

>>5192681
Yeah. That's true. Fuck Joji is such an idiot.

>>5192681
exactly. especially since she talks about so many topics in her videos but her 'accent' never changes at all.
she just can't say "twat" properly

>>5192683
SHIT I noticed that. Americans need to stop using English slang, it doesn't work that way. Those words need an accent or they sound stupid. Like when a black person uses racial slurs it has a different meaning than a white person, because of the dialect. Same for EVERYTHING ELSE. My linguistic self is starting to get mad.

>>5192685
>Like when a black person uses racial slurs it has a different meaning than a white person, because of the dialect.

>>5192691
If a black man goes up to a black friend and says "yo man my nigga" and a white person comes in and does the same thing what do you think the black friend will think?

Did you know technically that "hood speak" is the correct dialect and speaking mannerisms when in "the hood". Language is fun. But not always. Kawaii is now in the dictionary. The English dictionary.

so did her tongue turn black and fall off yet? it was well on its way to shriveling up and rotting out of her face the last i saw a guttercunt thread

>>5192696
As a body mod artists, a lot of tongues look like that after a split. It's not a clean heal often. She said she had a lot of regrowth, which is to be expected on your first split. And she still slurs a lot for how long it's been, so I'd assume it healed badly or she never speaks/does stretches.

>>5192693
There's one minor flaw with your thinking. The context is her using 'twat' and you're comparing English slang to American racial slurs.

1. I'm pretty sure English isn't a race. It's a nationality.
2. Nigga means homeboy, even us whities know that. If a white person says nigga it means the same thing. The meaning doesn't change based on race. If a white person used the word in the same context as a black person towards a friend, it may seem odd but it doesn't change its meaning.
3. Racial slur...that isn't what nigga is technically with how it's used. In America today, that's like saying 'amigo' is a racial slur and if anyone not Spanish says amigo it's racist.
4. ...did you just compare English slang to the ghetto?
5. And interesting tidbit, not every black person comes out of "the hood" or talks like they did.

Not really sure where I was going with much of that rambling, my mind is pretty still suck in "You serious?" mode.

>>5192709
Slang is slang and you're taking it too seriously. This is 4chan, I'm not going to explain the full length and depth of linguistic anthropology.

>>5192693
I feel as though the black man would take offense due to him being white rather than the way he says it

>>5192712
I have always wondered this, WHY is it that because a person is white they can't use "nigger" for the word "friend"/"homeboy" like a black person can? Black say "because it's an offensive word" but other black people use it! Doesn't that make black people the racist ones?

>>5192664
Ehhh, I've known that to happen. I've noticed a lot of my Hispanic friends get really strong Spanish accents if they're talking to other Hispanics (even in English). I think it has to do with adopting an accent to make yourself more understood.

>>5192718
Because whites invented the word in the first place to degrade slaves. The blacks use 'nigga' as a way to take the word back and rid it of it's hurtful past but not all blacks use it or approve of using it.

It's like us LGBT and the word fag. Used to be a degrading term but now a lot of the community has taken it back and freely call themselves and others that. I don't like it and I don't use it like that.

>>5192729
I am gay and I let straight people call me fag and faggot and I call straight people fag and faggot. And gays. Words are meaningless unless you give them meaning.

Aki (Yucki) and Gutterface (Guttercunt) piss me off... They really do. As someone who is pansexual, and grew up in the trans/gay community, they really piss me off. I have ranted about this Joji chick countless times. Part of being trans is moving on. Not focus on who you used to be and shove it down people's throats on what you used to be and what you are now. You are a boy? Then stop saying you used to be a girl! You are a boi but keep dressing like a chick and get mad at people who think you are a "girl", then stop getting upset and dress like a god damn boy, or stop calling yourself transgender and go by "crossdresser".

>>5192718
Saying it like, "Oh look at that nigger girl, she must be from Brooklyn" not really okay. But if you say, "Seriously James? I thought you were better than that, don't act like a nigger in public bro," it's different.

And if you can't tell the difference between how it is said in those 2 sentences, just let it be one less word you should think about saying out loud.

No one should be saying it, but they do. So just continue to complain on 4chan about it.

>>5192770
Not the same anon, but the original post of this said the black and white man did the exact same thing. So, this really isn't valid.

>>5192718
Here's how it works. The N word was used by Southern whites as a racial slur in the past. Black people reclaimed it for their own use. This means that people of any other race necessarily cannot use it in any circumstance; it's not theirs to use.

>>5192860
>Black people : you can't use a word because it's our word only blacks can use it!
And that is no racist how?

>>5192866
>>5192860

You are now aware that nigger is actually a latin derivative for black.. as in, it actually means black.

>black people
>getting mad when they're called black

White is Albus :3

The moar you know.

>>5192866
Well the entire point is that the word be reclaimed for use, but right now it is felt that it is only acceptable for black people, some don't want anyone using the word at all, to use it within group. However in the past few years we are beginning to see some small amount of acceptance in it's use amongst other ethnic minorities.

>>5192904
The Latin word is "niger", with only one 'g'.
Not really a Latin derivative, no.

The more you know.

>>5192924

Derivative - Noun: Something that is based on another source.

Niger - latin for black = nigger

Derivative.

So, yeah.

oh jesus fuck guys this thread is about gutterface not the different uses of the word nigger.

>>5192957
Wikipedia actually claims nigger stems from nigrum; or rather, the spanish/portugese/french derivations of nigrum.
Still not quite niger, but close enough, I guess.

Learning new things on 4ch, crazy.

>>5193054
At least I'm polite enough to sage. wat

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