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    172 KB Touhou Fandom and You Icemilk-Magic !!6ZLvVKJ2lKA 11/21/11(Mon)01:54 No.5168245  
    When Touhou threads surface, there usually isn't a whole lot of discussion going on among the picture posting (which I definitely do not mind, don't get me wrong), so I'd like to change that for this thread.

    Some recent events (AKA the shitty Touhou panels happening at cons near me) have peaked my curiosity about what the Touhou fandom is like in other areas.
    Do you have a lot of elitists? Know-it-alls? Or are they all pretty chill?
    Let me know of your experiences!

    [Extra points if you post your Touhou cosplay]
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)02:15 No.5168309
    >>5168245
    > Touhou fandom is like in other areas.
    >>>/bun/
    >> OwlDepot 11/21/11(Mon)02:20 No.5168326
    Most of the people I've met have been pretty chill in the California touhou fandom, mostly male of course. The only sort of elitist criticism I've encountered in the community has been online, like /jp/.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)02:23 No.5168332
    >>5168326
    That's been my experience too, in general.
    IRL Touhou fans I've met: Mostly great people! I've made a bunch of friends that way!

    /jp/ - females having anything to do with touhou seems to bring out their worst hate, also I think they've sent death threats to a few Western female touhou cosplayers.
    >> Potato 11/21/11(Mon)02:42 No.5168376
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    >>5168326
    This has been my experience too. /jp/ hates me (or at least they used to, I don't go to that board anymore so I don't know if they still do...which is silly because I never posted there in the first place!), but I have never gotten any hate in person.

    I don't know if California Touhou fans are just more chill than other places, but I love hanging out with my Touhous and Toubros and geeking it up.

    [I had to find a stupid photo so I could get my extra points.]
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)02:45 No.5168379
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    >>5168332
    Get a lot of flack on /jp/ for being a girl that likes touhou. Got accused of being secondary and then showed a screen shot of all the touhou games I have starting with imperishable night to ten desires. Still treated like shit and called secondary.

    Meet touhou fans in real life. Super bros in person. I'll be cosplaying Yamaxanadu at AX 2012 so if you see me say hi.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)02:54 No.5168394
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    I cosplayed Marisa earlier this year, and met what, 5 people who knew about it?

    It'd be nice if there was a big community. I don't really want to ask /jp/ for strategies and such, with the whole girls are secondaries thing.

    (I also didn't get many pictures of myself)
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)02:59 No.5168399
    Where I'm from we have a BIG community. We all love to hang out all the time, and at cons we drink like no tomorrow. I am of course talking about the NW Touhou community. I don't think I'll ever feel as accepted in any fandom as I do in the Touhou one.

    >>5168376
    Potato, I haven't seen you on AIM in over a week! Unless you're invisible... You should get on right now!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)03:07 No.5168407
    >>5168332
    >>5168379
    Having touhou games on your PC doesn't disprove being a secondary, if anything it just suggests you don't know what the term means.

    As for /jp/ and females, they'll only throw a bitchfit if you start posts with 'Hey /jp/, femanon here' - your gender shouldn't have an impact on what you're posting over there, thus you get branded an attentionwhore, just like being from /a/ won't get you any flack if you don't start threads with declaring you're from /a/ as if you want a medal for it.
    >> Potato 11/21/11(Mon)03:07 No.5168408
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    >>5168399
    I've been super busy again, I'm sorry! I don't use invisible mode, I just get lazy about signing in. I've got to head to bed, though, but I'll be on tomorrow for sure. Have a picture of Tony Stark riding a horse naked as my apology.

    There's something about the west coast that lends itself to cool Touhou fans, I guess. There sure seem to be a lot of us!
    >> Potato 11/21/11(Mon)03:17 No.5168415
    >>5168407
    I understand where you're coming from with the attentionwhore aspect- it's the same over in /co/.

    However, in my experience, /jp/ will go out of its way to post and ridicule female Touhou cosplayers. The female cosplayers are insulted and called ugly whores, while the brohous are cheered and lionized, no matter how bad their costumes are.

    I've never posted on /jp/, but whenever I go searching for photos after a con and someone links me to a /jp/ thread of con photos, I'll see myself called an ugly dude, a man, too ugly to cosplay, etc. Which is hugely ironic because if I actually was a dude, I'd be cheered on for being a brohou.

    Don't get me wrong, I think brohous are fucking awesome. I just get very tired of the double standard that /jp/ seems to cling to. It discourages people who enjoy the games from cosplaying, and diminishes people's respect for the fandom as a whole. I think there is so much creative energy and so much fun in Touhou and the Touhou fandom that it's a shame that there's so much negativity as well.

    Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox and heading for bed.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)03:31 No.5168431
    >>5168407
    You're right I don't know what "secondary" fan means, but I was accused of it for people assuming I haven't ever played even one of the touhou games and just liked the pretty pictures. I enjoy the source material and the expansive universe that touhou is.

    I don't personally like being accused of being something that I know I'm not. But I'm also saying sorry for not knowing what the term means.
    >> Cirno !mRXaSPDgxw 11/21/11(Mon)03:35 No.5168434
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    >>5168415
    I went to /jp/ once.
    There be dragons.
    I don't plan to return.

    ON THE SUBJECT OF THE TOUHOU FANDOM, of the fans I know, only the casual fans are tolerable, as they have conversations that aren't about touhou. I like touhou, but I'm a fucking casual.
    The hardcore fans I know that eat, breath, and sleep touhou kind of bother me. Around them I try to be insultingly oblivious to touhou. "That's like Galiga, right?"
    >> Posting Kanabro cause my real eyelashes are longer than all of yous. Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI 11/21/11(Mon)03:38 No.5168439
    >>5168245
    >panels happening at cons near me
    >Implying panels aren't just an excuse to use the badge money for more liquor

    But seriously, I'm still waiting for our West Coast Touhou picnic where it's only booze and empty donation boxes.

    >>5168379
    >>5168376
    >>5168415
    AllTouhouCosplayersAreMaleNoExceptions.jpg

    >>5168408
    >Stark
    >Naked
    >YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)03:41 No.5168446
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    >>5168434
    You're my favorite baka Cirno.
    >> Cirno !mRXaSPDgxw 11/21/11(Mon)03:43 No.5168450
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    >>5168446
    That's me feel good enough to distract me from wondering if I spelled Galiga right.

    >mfw It's spelled Galaga
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)03:46 No.5168459
    There is no touhou cosplay discussion because touhou cosplayers aren't really touhou fans. They dont play the games, they just want to dress up in cute outfits they see on the internet. It's worse than Vocaloid.
    >> Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI 11/21/11(Mon)03:46 No.5168460
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    >>5168439
    WELL, GUESS I SHOULD MAKE A CIRNO OUTFIT CAUSE I KEEP FORGETTING TO INCLUDE THE PICTURE IN MY POSTS
    >> Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI 11/21/11(Mon)03:48 No.5168465
    >>5168459
    I play drunk while wearing frilly outfits.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)03:52 No.5168470
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    >>5168459
    >> this is exactly the sort of touhou fan i don't meet irl... Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:03 No.5168481
    >>5168459
    and I suppose /jp/ discusses the games a lot too? Let's look at the front page!

    >/jp/ why is Loved Gensokyo so...calming?
    >Which Touhou would you like to perfect?
    thread looks like it's headed somewhere else other than gameplay
    >Touhou Hisoutensoku Netplay Thread
    that's actually games, you get a point
    >Hey, /jp/. What do you think about Tokiko?
    >Your move /jp/
    this is some board game type thing i know shit about
    >some visual novel thread
    >skyrim thread
    >suicide discussion thread
    >Why would anyone wear such impractical and annoying footwear? (Aya's tengu geta)
    >another visual novel thread

    YEAH SURE IS TONS OF TOUHOU GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION THERE TOO

    admit it, you guys have tons of random character dumps and extended universe discussions too as well as playing your shooter games, but the second someone female does the same, OMG SECONDARY OMG GIRLS DON'T PLAY TOUHOU GTFO WHORES.

    Fuck off.

    5/10 because I actually went through /jp/ for this.
    >> 4ng31 !!hKQFMnsBtJf 11/21/11(Mon)04:09 No.5168484
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    Ok, what the fuck is a "secondary"?

    Also, Touhou's ok...but I spend a lot more time with other shmups...1CC'd Deathsmiles IIX yesterday with Follett...that was pretty cool...
    >> Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI 11/21/11(Mon)04:13 No.5168488
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    >>5168481
    >I'm a Touhou Gamer Gurl. Don't hit on me, silly boys.
    That's all I read from that.

    But seriously, is it really necessary to state your gender? No, wait. Don't answer that. You're not taking it easy.

    >>5168484
    GTFO CAVEFAG
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:37 No.5168504
    the reason no one talks touhou games in /jp/ is because they've played them all to death already
    once a new one gets released, threads, threads everywhere
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:38 No.5168506
    The Touhou panel at Animethon (Edmonton) was so terrible I walked out about 2 minutes in. I have pretty bad public presentation skills, but this guy manage to be more awkward and painful than myself.

    Barely any of the Touhou cosplayers actually went to it either. So it was a bust on multiple accounts.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:45 No.5168510
    >>5168481
    That's because there's only one (or two) Touhou/shmup threads active on /jp/ as any given time. It's not like /jp/ is like /v/.

    >>5168415
    /jp/ has misogyny. That's par for course on a mostly male represented board.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:49 No.5168513
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    >>5168484
    seconding this, what the fuck is a secondary?

    eh polen touhoufags are pretty chill, massive weebs but they never got butthurt about anything as far as i've noticed. they just get drunk and build forts under tables at night, pretty coolstuff.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)04:53 No.5168519
    >>5168513
    Secondary is someone that doesn't know about the games, just spouts off memes and fanon. Shmup fans can be a pissy bunch.
    >> Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI 11/21/11(Mon)05:05 No.5168530
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    >>5168506
    All the ones I've been to have been the same Intro To Touhou. Which isn't bad and it's meant as, well, intro to Touhou.
    I do regret missing out on the second Touhou panel at Fanime 2010 since that one was apparently completely different.
    I mean, what would you suggest be in a panel?

    ...and I'm pretty sure that question has been asked to death on /bun/.

    >>5168450
    I'm stealing your Galiga bit.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)05:17 No.5168547
    >>5168530
    More gameplay discussion and/or tacking it onto a general shmup panel.

    I really don't care for most of the fan content, or some of the fans for that matter.
    >> Bettan 11/21/11(Mon)08:06 No.5168661
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    I love the Touhou group here. They're all so nice and accepting of everyone and great seamstresses. If it weren't for me meeting them, I'd probably not be cosplaying anymore or be stuck being horrible still.

    >>5168513
    >>5168484
    Secondaries are basically people who don't play the games (either be it because they don't know how, can't access them, or don't like them) but are very into the memes and characters and such.

    I'll admit, some of them can... Get on my nerves. Really though, as long as you aren't an attention whore (ie cosplaying Reisen just because of the miniskirt and you think guys would like it or something), or spouting out meme after meme ("Sakuya pads her chest because she's a baka (9)!") it's not really that big of a deal.

    ... On that note, I am so sick of the Cirno jokes, like you don't even know.

    Also, my Minoriko from AWA 2011, since you want pictures. What is everyone else going to be cosplaying Touhou wise for the rest of the year?
    >> Golem !!kUkmDv6gXoX 11/21/11(Mon)08:46 No.5168692
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    The problem with the secondary hate is that touhou isn't really a complex or deep game. Most of the content is fanmade so i don't see why people are so pissed off about others focusing on the fanmade content.
    >>5168488
    She had to mention her gender because she was commenting on other peoples reaction to it.
    >>5168407
    Moving the goal post. If you've played one level oc pcb YOU'RE A CERTIFIED TOUHOU PLAYER. Of all misogyny on /jp/ hasn't reduced the level of shit posting. It's still fucking garbage.

    >>>/jp/8129185
    >Which Touhou's butthole would you lick?

    Typical /jp/ thread. Sweet super awesome online culture they've got there.
    >> Cirno !mRXaSPDgxw 11/21/11(Mon)12:15 No.5168956
    >>5168506
    >Animethon
    FOUND YOUR PROBLEM
    Although the touhou panels at Otafest usually aren't any better.
    >> Icemilk-Magic !!6ZLvVKJ2lKA 11/21/11(Mon)12:32 No.5168984
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    Oh, well good morning errbody.
    I kinda dozed off after making the thread, herpderp.

    ANYWAY.
    My experiences with the fans here in my area are pretty ok. We've got a few of the types of fans >>5168434 mentioned, but overall everybody seems pretty chill.

    >>5168506
    Yep, I was there. I dunno who you are exactly, or if you know this already but me and my boyfriend will be hosting the next Touhou panel if things go according to plan. We've already got a lot planned, so I hope all goes well. I'm just trying to spread the word since I'm pretty sure the fucking idiot who has been hosting our Touhou panels over again has scared most people away.

    >>5168661
    Oh my god you are so adorable. I love it!

    I guess I'll post a cosplay picture of mine, too. Wore this this past Saturday at a small con. Needless to say, the costumes not completely finished yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)12:38 No.5169000
    They're all fucking terrible, obnoxious secondaries. I play the games and listen to the music on my own. I don't want to deal with any loud doujin reading meme spouting idiots who can't even play the games.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:00 No.5169114
    >>5168692
    I've noticed that the secondaries often don't even read the various official books/manga

    Which makes zero sense to me
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:06 No.5169124
    >cosplay China
    >boyfriend is Sakuya
    >either get completely ignored in favor of him, or get
    >"OH GREAT, ANOTHER TOUHOU GIRLFRIEND, AT LEAST YOUR BOYFRIEND PLAYS IT"
    >"oh, no, I'm the one who plays the games, he's just in it for the fan stuff. you're not the first person to make that mistake, though!"
    >usually get ignored or called a liar, they continue talking to my boyfriend about shit he doesn't know about

    Although once one of them called me a "lying whore" to my face, so that was fun! Thanks, Pacific Northwest Touhou fandom, for making me never want to admit that I'm a Touhou fan.
    >> Trident !ErY2TknG0w 11/21/11(Mon)14:07 No.5169126
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    WHAT THE FUCK IS ICE MILK?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:11 No.5169134
    Never got into Touhou, but I'm curious as to why people would so vehemently disbelieve any woman who says they are a Touhou fan. Can someone explain this to me?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:18 No.5169149
    >>5169134
    Because the games are difficult and girls can't play games!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:21 No.5169156
    >>5169124

    >Pacific Northwest
    >fandom

    There's your problem. Everyone in the Pacific Northwest is an elitist Starbucks-sucking Prius-driving jackass.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:23 No.5169160
    >>5169134
    Here's a really simple explanation. Touhou
    >Game with a steep difficulty to weed out people who can't/don't want to dedicate their time to it (ie people with jobs)
    >For the PC to reel in the NEETs (seriously, there are threads about being proud to be a NEET)
    >Massively unbalanced female:male character ratio for maximized waifu potential
    >Almost all moeblob loli characters to attract men scorned by real women that from then on need "pure 2D innocent virgin lolis"
    >Almost entirely made of fanon so said NEETs can theorize and waifutize their little girls

    The saddest part is that /jp/ and the other fans like them don't realize they're playing the most exploitative thing out there for them. It's like seeing black people actually go to something like Soul Plane or a Tyler Perry movie.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)14:32 No.5169178
    >>5169149
    >>5169160
    Lame. I say you guys should play what you like and fuck the haters. If women are willing to cosplay Touhou in the first place, their fat, pimply asses should appreciate it.
    >> Als/o/kawks !watwat 11/21/11(Mon)14:43 No.5169217
    >>5169156
    You've only visited the wrong side of the mountains.

    My side is just rednecks and stoners.
    >> Bettan 11/21/11(Mon)14:46 No.5169224
    >>5168984
    Oh my God so cute! Thank you very much for your compliment, it means a lot when really really cute people say the same to me. <3 I love your Myon. How did you attach it?

    >>5169114
    Yeah, a lot of them don't and it confuses me too. Knew a guy who said Watatsuki no Toyohime was his favorite character based on her touhouwiki article (which if you've seen isn't exactly descriptive). He didn't like the games, so I suggested he read the book because she's his favorite, he basically said "nah". But this was also the same guy who said people needed to get over the Japanese tsunami a few days after it happened (if I recall correctly, if it wasn't that it was something of similar destruction), so...
    >> reiserFS !!wPpyhreQf6d 11/21/11(Mon)14:50 No.5169233
    They're all pretty chill, at least the ones I've talked with.
    >> Frosty Moe Youkai !!wPtJ3H9xWap 11/21/11(Mon)14:55 No.5169242
    I'm in the same area as >>5168984
    So I don't really have anything to contriboot (aside from holy shit why is every 2hoe pannel local to this are absolute balls see >>5168506)

    There are a few obnoxious secondaries here and there, and some addict players who literally can't shut up about touhou for more than a few seconds but most of the people I've met in the area (and south) are pretty awesome to chill with. I'm sure it's the same with any fandom, they just stick out more because touhou is a lot smaller in this area.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)15:04 No.5169261
    Da fuk is a touhou?
    The game or the character?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)15:07 No.5169272
    >>5169261
    a touhou is the everything, including the bullets that kill you.

    all of the bullets that kill you.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)15:11 No.5169287
    Oh wow, so many Albertan in this thread.

    >>5168984
    Yes, please do. I know the room was fairly filled despite the presenter being rather... poor.

    Were you cosplaying any characters during the weekend?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)15:35 No.5169351
    >>5169261
    It's a region in Japan
    >> Cirno !mRXaSPDgxw 11/21/11(Mon)15:36 No.5169355
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    So many Albertans in this thread. Jesus christ.

    Okotoks, reporting in.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)15:56 No.5169420
    >>5169355
    Whitecourt here. Sure got all winter all of a sudden.
    >> Icemilk-Magic !!6ZLvVKJ2lKA 11/21/11(Mon)16:10 No.5169462
    >>5169126
    I'm surprised nobody here got the reference (or maybe you guys did?). "Icemilk-Magic" is the title of Mugetsu's (Lotus Land Story) theme. Or at least part of it. Full song title: "Illusion of a Maid~ Icemilk Magic"

    >>5169224
    Thank you, too~
    Myon, well, to be honest it's not how I wanted it to look at alllll. My original idea was to make it to it was 'hovering' somewhat behind my head, rather than mid-back. However, since I only had less than I day to make it, the harness didn't turn out as strong as I had hoped, and it sagged. So eventually I just had to tuck it farther into the back of my shirt/vest. Next time I cosplay Youmu, I'll have Myon remade, as well as the outfit perfected.

    >>5169287
    At Animethon? I was Sanae for the first couple of days, then I changed into my boyfriend's Mokou cosplay for Sunday.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:39 No.5169542
    >>5169462
    You get a thumbs up from me for having a PC-98 reference that's not about Yuuka or Mima. I think your Sanae was the first shot I took of the con. Didn't see your Mokou though.



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