Any new developments in the story?

Got a response from Otaku House. They have been monitoring the votes as well.

>Hi Arnan,

>Thank you for your comprehensive email!

>Regarding the making of costumes; for this contest, we did not set self-made costumes as a criteria for entry as this will be impossible to validate for an online contest. As such we also did not implement this rule to any of the contestants.

>Regarding the irregular vote jumps, we have been monitoring the vote counts of the contestants as well, and your email will definitely be helpful in our investigation.

>Rest assured that an on-going investigation regarding this possible glitch is being carried out.

>Thanks for your time and do let us know if you have any other information.


>Regards,
>Otaku House
>Cosplay Idol Committee

I can tell they tried out the glitch thats been exploited since Jason Reeves went up 10 votes since last night exactly how I told them to. So they now know the exploit and are working on fixing it.

>>5074862
Glad to see they're taking it seriously instead of just brushing it off as random haters.

too bad the real life ichigo is still gonna win. boooo

>>5074879
Not if he can't cheat his votes anymore. If he would have let the votes come naturally instead of cheating it, he would not even be in the top 3.

>my face if Living Ichigo will never be able to show his face at conventions after this without being ridiculed

Do continue digging your own grave, LI.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150359610167137&set=a.10150359607652137.372206.15120842
7136&type=3

Bleach fans to the rescue!

>>5074924
really?? how was he cheating his votes?

>>5075089
That Justin Puckett dude must be blind and stupid. The proof is right there and they're still going "Hurrdurr so what if he didn't make it? What's the big deal?" "...he stole images from other people and tried to fake tutorials to claim he did make it all." "Hurrdurr don't be so negative!"

I've been sharing pikmin link's cosplay to people vote for her these days. she wasn't my fovourite either, but enything's better than LI.

I hope you guys act just like this for asia& europe too. because people cheat. for votes, for costumes etc.

>>5074924

I still have yet to see proof that he cheated.

What proof do you have?

>>5075118
I'd like to think that cosplayers from Europe and Asia are keeping an eye on their own.

>>5075135
Different Anon but if I remember correctly, someone on the old thread said he was using a Facebook hack to multi-vote and the Anon managed to replicate what they used and then contacted Otaku House with instructions on how to replicate it. The other night LI's votes shot up a bunch in a short time before someone posted here with screenshots of it and then the votes suddenly stopped.

>>5075153
I'm not taking sides. However, just because it's possible to hack Facebook doesn't mean Reallife Ichigo did?

He's not even good looking! I don't understand how other girls are so moist by looking at him.

Yes I mad.

>>5075158
No, it doesn't mean he personally did it but he's been overly confident about declaring himself the winner already, even before the votes jumped. Even if it's not him, I suspect that he knows who's doing it or at least knows that it's being done.

>>5075153
There was mention of google plus and something with the voting code Otaku House used where you could have multiple votes without having to use multiple accounts. Not really a hack. More of a bug in the code that is being exploited. With the way the particular bug worked you could probably setup automatic vote generator for the rest of time without too much effort.

>>5075253
And this is why popularity style contests should just be tossed out when it comes to cosplay.

..yeah, that's a smart thing to admit where everyone can see.

bump

>>5075153
That was me. I was able to replicate his voting numbers at the same speed his went up that one night. Took the findings and instructions and sent it to Otaku House (their email response is posted above).

Its actually really really simple that yes, even Living Ichigo could do it. I'm not some genius hacker, just another animefag who hates cheaters (which is why I won't say how to do the cheat here).

In case you guys hadn't noticed, LI took down the tutorial.

>>5075579
Because if it was a legit tutorial then there would be no reason to take it down...

OMG U GUISE DRESSING UP LIKE CHILDREN'S CARTOON CHARACTERS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

>>5075135

Are you fucking dense kid? Jesus...give it up. He has lied about making multiple costumes...and in the process of doing that, stolen pictures from other claiming them as his own (which is also probably why his "tutorial" went down...that's copyright issues and theft).

Personally, I don't give a shit about his vote cheating (or the contest at all), but if you open your eyes rather than being ignorant about it, it's very easy to see.

>>5075135
Yo Matt it's already been proven that he lied about making that mask. Now the cheating thing is under investigation by the site hosting this bullshit. Why would you befriend and defend such a douchebag, bro? The quality of one's friends is a pretty direct reflection of one's own personal set of standards. Think about it.

>>5075623
Doesn't matter what the hobby is, but once there is lying and cheating involved to gain your way to the top then it's serious business.
But in those cases it's the liar/cheater who is digging their own grave.

>>5075623
Oh boy, it's this kid again. Not sure why you're in every thread time after time if it's so unimportant.

>>5075655
WELL I GUESS I'M NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO DO THIS THEN. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE THEN I SUPPOSE. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, CAN FELLATE A DONKEY. HAVE A NICE DAY.

>>5075623
>Epic Troll XD
Does your mommy know you're online when you should be doing your homework, mister?

Hey Living Ichigo why are your abs lopsided. They look like they need braces.

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT COMEBACK. YOU'RE ASSUMING I'M UNDERAGE AND IN ELEMENTARY/MIDDLE SCHOOL/HIGH SCHOOL AND HAVE NO LIFE. A FAIR ASSUMPTION, BUT WRONG. HAVE FUN FLIPPING BURGERS OR WORKING RETAIL BECAUSE YOU SPENT ALL YOUR TIME AND MONEY ON DRESSING UP LIKE CARTOON CHARACTERS INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING MARKETABLE SKILLSETS, DEAR.

Glorious High Res

>>5075649

Does nobody remember Matt is guilty of the same thing as LI? Lying about making his own costumes?

Are you really surprised he's defending him?

yo matt you hitting up yaoi con again?

>>5075695
I've always disliked that trip since he came about cgl and now I'm finally finding more adequate reasons for it

well to be honest I wouldn't dislike him any more or less either way, he's pretty dislikable

>>5075649
I wouldn't say that, honestly. Theo may have his dumb moments, but he's a pretty good guy. At times I'm worried his ego may overtake him, but at the end of the day I trust him to do the right thing. if he did cheat then I'm disappointed in him. If he didn't, then there really is nothing to worry about. I'm not truly concerning myself over it because it's not my battle to fight in. If it gets any worse I'll definitely take a side, but for now he can defend himself.

>>5075695
Too bad I already publicly admitted I didn't make most of my Dante(Which doesn't even fit anymore). Where have you been?

>>5075717
Hell yeah I am! Day 1 as Straight Cougar and Day 2 & 3 as Kamina.

>>5075729
It sounds like you're looking for reasons to dislike me, damn shame.

And I know I don't appeal to every one, but I'm sorry I don't appeal to you. Honestly.

>>5075687
HAHAHA oh wow. No wonder he removed it.
Fucking liar.

>>5075678

Confirmed for batshit insane youtube girl who posted the video asking for people to vote for him.

This evidence of LI's lying ass is beautiful. I know it can't get him disqualified since it doesn't even matter if he made his stuff, but I hope at least people will KNOW he was lying (for some reason) instead of just admitting his bought and modified costumes/props.

>>5076342
This. I mean, it's totally fine if you have bought costumes. Not everyone is gifted at sewing, I know I have absolutely no sewing talent and I've had my seamstress grandmother teach me for years how to sew. I end up buying all my costumes or occasionally asking her for help making something small. There's no shame in buying costumes but it is shameful and can ruin you if you try to cover it up and say you made it and it'll DEFINITELY ruin you if you try to fabricate evidence to convince others that you made the things you bought.

If Living Ichigo had just come out in the first place and said he bought his costume pieces then no one would give a shit. Instead he digs himself into a hole faking all this stuff and then trying to get rid of everything that could ruin him once people figured out they were lies.

Just checked the votes.

Living Ichigo - 3859
PikminLink - 3517

Only a 342 difference.

>>5076597
Living Ichigos votes have barely moved at all today. I wonder what's going on.

>>5076061

Just because you admitted you lied, doesn't mean you didn't lie in the first place dude.

>>5076637
he has decided it is not a good idea to cheat while people are watching? (or who ever is cheating for him)

>>5076637
Guessing he ran out of fans to vote for him, the evidence getting spread around is making non-fans consider voting for other people, and whoever rigged his votes in the first place stopped.

Hell, the fact that his votes have barely budged since I last checked 20 minutes ago (PL went up 8 while LI went up 1) just further points towards same person multi-voting.

>>5075687
well, then.
he can go buy 50 dicks, lie about buying them, and then proceed to suck them all.

>>5076653
Well at least he admitted he lied, and is now very open about it. That takes a few balls. Sure it was stupid in the first place, but Matt knows better now I am sure.

>>5076665
Yeah, it's better than continuing to lie about it or even admitting it then pretending like it never happened.

>>5076597
>1 Hour Ago
Living Ichigo - 3859
PikminLink - 3517

>Currently
Living Ichigo - 3861
PikminLink - 3555

PEOPLE CARE BECAUSE A PENCIL, A RIGHT ANGLE, AND JIGSAW ARE SO HARD TO USE THAT THEY WARRANT THEIR OWN TUTORIAL

common guys, vote for PL. I just don't want to see a cheater win...

as much as I'd rather LI not win because of his activities, what's to stop PL fans from using the exploit?

>>5076973
Because now that Otaku House is watching for it, they'll spot it and probably remove the votes.

>>5076981
This is assuming they actually have something in their code tracking and recording what account votes for who.

Just voted for LI.

Fuck you vendetta cunts.

>>5076990
Well they have to have something if they're able to investigate it in the first place.

>>5077011
I wouldn't be surprised if all they did was fix the hole, if they fixed the hole at all

>>5076981
This just happened.

PikminLink's counter was at 1668 when I last refreshed and I refreshed again and it's now 1658.

..... Are you fucking serious? Are they literally taking away votes? That's anus and I'm sure it has to do with this whole fiasco of stupid.

>>5077038
Hah, I lol'd

PL: 1663
LI: 1011

>>5077061
Well now things are looking better.

>>5077056
They're taking away suspect votes. Which means both sides had suspect votes. I fail to see the problem with taking them away.

Hooooooly shit. I mean, we all knew he had rigged votes but I didn't think THAT many were rigged. Can't wait to see the explosion on his Facebook from this.

>>5077056
Yeah, they're taking away votes that came from one person multi-voting. I think it's pretty damn impressive of them to do it instead of just shrugging and turning a blind eye to it.

>>5077080
It was probably more than one person doing it for both of the frontrunners.

>>5076061 Too bad I already publicly admitted I didn't make most of my Dante(Which doesn't even fit anymore). Where have you been?
So you did lie?

Someone pls fill me in on the history behind Matt the Fake and Lying Ichigo.

>>5077107
Yeah, I lied. It was pretty stupid because I wanted to impress people. Those days are faaaaaar behind me.

>>5077098
Yeah definitely more than one person helped boost the votes, just using the term "one person multi-voting" to explain the hack or glitch, whatever it was.

>>5077112
How long ago did it happen? What did you lie about and when did you finally come clean?

The numbers keep changing. I think they are tallying the votes.

>>5077068
>>5077080
Well since both accounts are losing votes it makes it a bit even. I'm just more, fuck I don't even know what word I wanna use, but whatever it is that I'm feeling about the measures taken in this stupid prom king contest lol.

As it is right now, Living Ichigo not only isn't first, he didn't even make one of the runner up spots.

First: PikminLink 1669
Second: Kyle Mathis 1214
Third: Quantum Destiny 1058
Fourth: Living Ichigo 1011

>>5077120
It was last September or thereabouts. People went all batshit hunter mode when he said it was his first cosplay and that he made it himself. Kind of like how they went batshit hunter mode on LI in the last few days. I suppose he came clean within a month of that so let's say he's been clean for a year.

>>5077076
AHAHAHAHAHA
OH MAN!

>>5077120
Over a year ago. I lied about making the entire Dante outfit when in reality I commissioned about two-thirds of it. It came out like a few hours later.

I say we all sign an online petition for PT to win.

>>5077124
I'm relieved and oddly proud. Even if it is just a basic popularity contest, at least they're taking it seriously and making sure it's as fair as it can be, even if it's just to keep their own reputation good.

>>5077127
Otaku House gave PL back 200 votes so she is at 1871. I wonder how they are tallying this, or if they are just throwing numbers down to even things out a bit.

I hope they come out with a public explanation.

>>5077140
Which is good as well. They're putting the effort to keep it fair and that's respectable. But I won't lie, it doesn't really change my view of the contest itself. Is Otaku House a good site beyond this Ms. Cosplay-of-America beauty pageant?

>>5077121
If they're retallying votes then jeez, I feel bad for livingichigo. Pikminlink has gone up about 200 from the beginning of the vote removal (or at least the first time I saw it happen) til now. Livingichigo has gone up... one vote.

>>5077124
I think "super cereal/serial" (depending on your word preference) or "tryhard" would be fitting.

>>5077147
They are a store. The biggest ploy is probably to try to get more business via the contest giving them a fair amount of traffic.

>>5077148
I don't think either of those words work. Because I'm not involved in it. I think a word I want to use would be flabbergasted

Also I cannot be a breakfast food.

>>5077128 within a month
>>5077136 hour
One of these is not like the other one

Captcha: principle nssEwit

I'm pretty sure they are taking away any double votes as well. Such as if the same person voted on Facebook AND Google +, they are having that count as 1 vote rather than 2.

>>5077158
I don't remember the exact dates and don't even remember when things started and when things ended as I stopped caring. I tend to give wide ranges to cover my butt.

>>5077157
You can be to zombies.

>>5077154
Fair reason. Nothing wrong with having a contest to build traffic. I just think the contest is dumb~

>>5077166
This is true. Very true.

I wish I could see the look on LIs face when he sees this.

>>5077163
Nice forgetting to put your trip back on after dropping it, Matt. Lol.

>>5077176
It would be so GLORIOUS Jesus may come down and snap a picture.

>>5077178
Wut.

I don't drop trip, son.

>>5077187
Did you ever cheat on Zal with the other blonde trip you're currently fucking?

>>5077176
Nono. One better, I want to see the look on both the Youtube girl's face and that illiterate super fan of his on Facebook's face.

>>5077170
Yes, it's pretty dumb. As a getting your name out thing I think it will prove itself there (perhaps limited given the nature and size of the cosplay community - I'm unsure of just how much of the "rest of the Western anime fans" are paying attention to this). But hey, they're giving away $4000. That's a pretty cheap price for a company.

I'll be honest, I didn't care about this contest til the drama started. I don't think I'll ever buy things from the store. I would have never posted nor read the threads if it hadn't been for the drama.

>>5077187
>>5077178
I am a third person. I don't think Matt would post twice, and two different answers, when answering the same question.

>>5077191
No, actually. The worst I did was make raunchy jokes. But I make raunchy jokes with everyone, ya know. Besides, while I was dating Zal, she was dating Poolboy. I respected that and kept my distance, keeping her as a close friend.

>>5077198
It's definitely got its benefits plug wise, both for participants and the site. 4000? I heard it was less but that's still not bad.

Current recounts:

PL: 1876
LI: 1012

So this is the feeling when people post in PT threads.

>>5077204
There are $1000 in prizes for each of the four zones (North America, South America, Europe, Asia) split into $500, $300, and $200 for winner, first runner-up, second runner-up, respectively.

Living Ichigo was planning on buying weeaboo dildos with that 4000 so he can fuck himself in the ass everyday.

I think the votes have finally stopped being messed with.

PikminLink: 1886
Kyle Mathis: 1215
Quantum Destiny: 1060
Living Ichigo: 1014

LI is officially in 4th place.

>>5077217
Ahh that sounds more plausible

>>5077262
So the original plan to get him out of the top three worked in the end. Now we gotta vote everyone else in the top 3 up JUST so he can't get back in. . .

>>5077271
Or we pick someone else to be in 4th and knock him completely out.

>>5077271
Especially when his fans catch on. The FB feed on his contest page has been quiet so far because of how late it is but it won't stay that way, especially with Chibi Chan and that one other lady raising holy hell on their own.

I'm going to go ahead and place my bet on Living Ichigo's top three fangirls all crying, raging, and at least two of them claiming it's because OtakuHouse hates Bleach.

>>5077276
When I was going through all the profiles, I did see maybe two that had votes in the 900 range. Don't really feel like wading through all the entries again though.

>>5074951
He never shows his face

See what I did there?

>>5077280
The next highest was 757 For Hope Smith.

>heterosexual males
>going to yaoi con

>>5077278
I posted a long winded thing. But it seems to have disappeared somehow? hmmm. It was up for a good half hour. I know --I-- Didn't delete it. . .

>>5077301
Did you sort it? Comments disappear and reappear on there.

>>5077292
Ah, really? Could have sworn there was a mid-900's one. I guess the votes might have gotten rolled back.

>>5077297
I go for press so it's free and it's right next to my house and I'm still iffy on showing up...

>>5077319
Yeah but it's weird, man...

>>5077323
No, it's not. It's just a con.

>>5077297
>not realizing that feigning interest in yaoi gets you all the pussy you could ever want
>2011

>>5077327
Sure.

>>5077329
>also not realizing that even if you remove the dykes and hambeasts, yaoicon still has at least a 3:1 woman:man ratio
>also not realizing many of the men will also be homos

if you are a straight male and you can't get laid at yaoicon you're probably doing something wrong. Hell, if you're a lesbian and you can't get laid at yaoicon, you're probably also doing something wrong.

>>5077331
The fuck is that image supposed to prove? You're being stupid, man. Yaoicon is primarily a con with Yaoi more or less to the side. It's just a simple con unless you go out a dealer and buy some porn. It's not even pushed in your face.

Grow up and learn to be more comfortable with sexuality.

This is exactly why I never, EVER want to participate in any internet-based cosplay contest. In the end, it's all who-has-this-many-friends-jerkoff-fuckfest.

As for Living Ichigo (goddamn, I'm not sure whether that nickname makes me want to laugh or puke), Fuck him.

Sorry Matt, but I have absolutely no tolerance towards cheaters. I busted my ass making a lot of my costumes for YEARS!! and this fuckface gets that much attention after lying about his cosplay progress? He can go to hell and get fucked by Satan himself for all I care.

It looks like they put in an IP Filter so it cut out any votes that were from the same IP. That means even if there are multiple people in the household, they only account for 1 vote.

This also means that it removes the Google + and Facebook Like and makes it 1 vote. So, if you look at the numbers now:

LI: 3861 original, 1016 now, Google + 152
PL: 3559 original, 1891 now, Google + 802

Let's take LI. He only had 152 G+ votes. Let's subtract that from his original vote count, since they removed double votes and I'm pretty sure everyone who voted with G+ also voted with FB. 3861 - 152 = 3,709.

Now that means if you subtract the IP filtered vote number, that leaves 3,709 - 1016 = 2,693 votes that used the same IP address. We can knock off say, 300 votes for same house holds, to compensate any discrepancies. That means he still cheated and rigged 2,393 votes!

Let's look at PL. 3559 - 802 G+ = 2757 Votes. Subtract IP filtered votes: 2757 - 1891 = 866 same IP votes, minus 300 buffer household votes = 566 same IP votes.

These same IP votes are probably multiple accounts or glitch exploits. PL has a much smaller same IP vote which could be either someone ballot stuffing with the glitch (though you'd think they'd stuff more if that was their intent) or just people voting from multiple accounts. The latter seems much more likely due to the small number.

Though in the case of LI it is extremely clear he was stuffing his own ballot with well over 2,300 extra votes using the glitch exploit. That is 2/3rds of his previous votes! Jesus Christ.

>>5077339
I am comfortable, which is why I'm going to stick my dick in you to make you squeal at yaoi con.

>>5077368
Good luck with that. I may be Bi, but I'm not single.

>>5077362
I talked to PL and she said quite a few people from her school voted and that would be using the same IP obviously. Not saying that covers 500+ but it's easily 100 if they used Facebook and Google+.

>>5077369
Which is why it's going to be a threesome ;)

Oh god. I can't wait to see the raging fangirls tomorrow. Someone better screencap that shit!

>>5077387
i will admit to being excited for this as well! i know it is a little early but i keep going back and refreshing the page every 15 minutes or so.

>Steals a pic from a person I used to know
>awkward
>more awkward when I'm pretty sure their mum made the outfit or the friend, can't remember
Full of awkward. If I was going to steal I would've at least gone for an more awesome looking one. Just saiyan.

>>5077373
WiFi in schools would definitely inflate that same IP number a lot more, since most schools have one router.

>>5077397
LOL So do I!
I'm waiting for the shitstorm.

So, are the votes stabilised now? I'm reading the Otaku House pages correctly?

>Living Ichigo: 1017 people want this cosplayer to win

>Pikminlink: 1903 people want this cosplayer to win

>>5075687
Ah /cgl/, this is why I love you.

no homo

>>5077437
Yes, that's the correct numbers. Knocks LI into 4th place.

>>5077421
They would also now need to create separate accounts since they fixed the glitch exploit that was being used.

I should just stop posting because I am giving ideas on how to make more votes short of IP block bans.

>>5077473
Then you should probably remove your posts.

>>5077485
yeah, I just did. I also stopped myself midpost on another way for most people to easily IP switch.

Does anyone know if he knows about this yet? I don't follow him on Facebook or anything. But thank GOD they did something.

>>5077262


finally fair!

but I wonder if PL cheated too..if she did..

dissapointed in you.

>>5077833

Well, she did lose some votes as well, but again, everyone did. It's not very fair to those who didn't cheat, because multiple people can fairly use the same IP address. It sucks that because of this asshole, some people lost genuine votes.

You know shit has officially hit the fan when your co-contestants are ashamed of you.

>>5078027

What "respect" would anyone have for him in the first place? This is just for show.

>>5078048

Possibly the whole body image thing?

Though I doubt Kyle has heard about the steroids and screwy work out routines - that information doesn't seem to be circulating around LI's contest page as far as I've seen.

>>5078056

Like he or Malinda don't lurk on /cgl./ I think everyone knows of it by now.

I find it truly funny that Living Ichigo was so confident he'd win that he even made a show of it by telling PikminLink he voted for her.

/cgl/- Internet Police, Cosplay Fraud Unit

Next round of donuts on me, guys.

>>5078069
More funny than that is the two or three times that he's posted to facebook something along the lines of "I'm in first place, I just KNOW I'm going to win this contest :)"

It's funny how cocky he was when he was rigging the votes. Even if it weren't him, he at least knew it was happening to have that cocky of an attitude about it. . .

>>5078083
I LOVE DONUTS :D

>>5078083
I want one of the seasonal pumpkin spice ones.

>>5078086
That too. Pretty much dug himself into a hole there too since now he can't claim he didn't know about the mass amount of vote rigging, and even if he didn't, who's going to believe him now?

I'm a little disappointed, because Hope Smith's Edea is absolutely gorgeous... still, PikminLink is very popular and guaranteed to win at this point.

So would people have gone to such lengths for their detective work had it never been for this contest?

>>5078102
Eventually it would have all been exposed since people obviously had suspicions before the contest, but the contest definitely put things into overdrive.

>>5078101

Oh my god, thank you! This! There are a lot of cosplayers who have great costumes, but are way too far behind. I think this whole Living Ichigo bullshit made people just vote for those top three, and no one even gave any of the other contestants any thought. Not very fair.

>>5078106
I saved my vote for April Martin. Her Silent Hill's Lurker costume is amazing.

As for the EU contest:
I'm angry that both the chick that made that fuckawesome Valkyrie Randgris and Kamui are behind this chick in votes. The amount of work they put in compared to this wrinkly inaccurate mess is just embarrassing.

>>5078102
There were a lot of reasons why this case got as far as it did. /cgl/ is usually pretty responsive to cosplay contests of any kind (brings out an excuse to be catty), and this one in particular had a pretty considerable number of applicants, both high and low profile. I think most of it had largely to do with Living Ichigo's own efforts. He and his followers kept fanning the flames, and if /cgl/ is anything, it's incendiary. Plus, LI has been on /cgl/'s radar for a while... Nothing to this extent, though. Usually just people ridiculing him for being a but-his-face due to the fact that he's always got a mask on for cosplay.

While I definitely think what LI did was wrong, I'm very put off with how PL and Sai have been bashing him every chance they get and plastering "vote for Pikminlink!!!!!!!!" everywhere. It made me lose a lot of respect for her and lost her my vote.

I'd have been much more impressed if they had remained professional about the whole thing instead of being dramamongers.

>>5078120
please tell me she's not in the top three
that is fucking horrible

I laughed.

>>5078130
Really? Where? I just checked PL's Facebook and her contest page and she hasn't mentioned him once lately. You got me curious now.

>>5078130
>plastering "vote for Pikminlink!!!!!!!!" everywhere.
Because that's totally not the point of the contest...

>>5078134

No one can compete with a guy who has physics.

>>5078134

I wish I had top rate physics as well. It sucks having to obey the normal laws of physics. If I had better ones I could go FTL!

>>5078133
She's #1, actually.

>>5078134
HAHA. I love Miles.

>>5078130
What are you talking about? I just checked all of her accounts and in neither is she bashing him or creating drama.

>>5078130
I went to look too after you wrote this and the only thing I found was Sai saying how he was disappointed to find out that he was a cheater.

>>5078130
>>5078163
All I see is her asking people on her FB and DA to vote, and she also mentioned the other contestants and how people should vote for them too.

>>5078130
Yeah, after reading that post, I went and checked all of her public accounts. . . Nothing in her Journal, nothing in comments, nothing on twitter, facebook, anything. Care to give us links? Or screenshots? Anything?

That's what I thought.

>>5078130
Confirmed for butthurt LivingIchigo fangirl.

Has the crazy fangirl Minxy-wannabe chick made a video yet?

>>5078101
Except Hope's costumes look like shit in person. She's also an annoying cunt.

>>5078130
So you lost respect for PL because she's "bashing" LI, yet there is no proof of this to date. Yet, your loss of respect for her has lost her your vote, but what about LI? Him cheating and lying to his "fans" and then trying to lie about that and trying to cover it up doesn't make him lose any respect from you? Let alone a vote?

Confirmed for that fucking whale that made that video for people to vote for him.

Some fucking "professional" cosplayer you are haha. Elizabeth was it? Seriously, take a look at everything you've seen here. You've seen how low he is willing to stoop to win a no-name online competition. You've seen him lie, cheat, and deny it all. Yet you still whiteknight him like you want his dick so bad. How could you seriously still want his dick after seeing what a fucking retard he is? Jesus christ you disgust me.

>>5078200
Girls... they love the bad boys, no?

>>5077076
So, in the course of 12 hours since the voting system got fixed, he's garnered 17 votes? Yeah, bitch has been faking votes. If he had been legitimately gaining votes like he claims to have been, then I'm SURE he would have gone up more than that in this timeframe.

>>5078209
Bad Boy =/= Full Retard

Maybe it's because he's so stupid that she wants him. She hopes that he is in fact stupid enough to actually stick it in her.

>>5078200
No proof and they stopped posting after that comment. It probably is the video girl or that literate fangirl from Facebook since his third super fangirl types lyk dis.

>>5078200
Gacktfangirl2323
Latest Activity: 3 hours ago

I think you hit the nail on the head for Anon's identity.

>>5078199
You vendetta-chan's don't even try to come up with something witty anymore, do ya. Sage for bullshiz.

But THANK GOD LI got rat-ed out. Can't wait to see what he says about all this.

i just realized that this shit is supposed to go til the 6th

>>5078300

Well, that gives us time to bump him either farther down the list. I wish every good cosplayer in the contest would be above him.

Please let them be sarcastic...

>>5078700

Well, I'm sure making all of those fake votes and having to go through tons of other people's progress photos to make a fake tutorial WAS a lot of hard work! So she's right!

So his tactic is to basically pretend that none of this is happening? There's no way someone has told him.

>>5078715
> hasn't
Darn typo.

>>5078715
Oh I assure you he knows. He just got more news to brag about, seems like. He wouldn't pass that up.

>>5078273
>waaahh somebody thinks my costume looks like shit, they must have a vendetta against me baaawww

Seriously? People can think someone's costume looks bad and not have a vendetta.

>>5078715
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up dropping out. He's the most hated and he wouldn't win anything.

>>5078715
All the contestants were emailed by OH telling them that their votes might change due to fraud voting. So yes, he knows.

>>5078749

I agree, but >>5078199 wasn't just saying they didn't like the costume. Random anon, just giving my opinion. Jellys are really easy to pick out now-a-days.

>>5078746
Well, it's better to let him have his moment because I don't picture him getting invited to many events after this.

>>5078801
i don't think corporations really give a shit what drama comes around if it doesn't affect them in a significant way. i doubt he's going in a representative capacity anyway. it's probably more of a "i know this guy who knows this guy" thing.

LOL OH WOW!

Even after all of that evidence his followers still support him.

>>5079390
That's probably because he posted a tl;dr statement about how he didn't cheat on his Facebook page.

You guys should be fucking ashamed of yourself. He did nothing wrong.

>>5079460
Because lying about costumes and faking tutorials is doing nothing wrong? Who cares if he didn't personally vote himself up? Someone did it for him and his cocky "I'm declaring myself winner already!" attitude makes it look like he did it or he knew who did.

>>5079460

I stopped reading after the first sentence of the second paragraph. His ego knows no boundaries. Deal with it, LI. People caught you and had proof of your lies. You're in fourth place because you or someone you know rigged the votes in your own favor. You dug your own grave and now your actions have been seen by a large percentage of the cosplay community. All of the prideful comments and the false tutorial spoke volumes. I can't believe he's still trying so hard to defend himself now.

>>5079460
Ya-huh.

I'm sure that whole fake tutorial thing was all just a massive miscommunication and he really does have a mysterious super brother who knows how to exactly replicate another's person's work down to the paint lines and construction using only pictures. Does anyone know who his brother is? If he really is as great a prop maker, I would be less suspicious, but this whole vague long winded explanation just sounds like piled up excuses.

I also like how he implied of having a big enough fanbase to compete with PL and kinda ignored how, now that it's limited to 1 IP per vote, that his was slashed so that he fell from first to fourth place. There is no denying that his entry was being stuffed most of all, whether or not he is responsible is up in the air.

TL;DR- 4chan is a big bunch of meanies and I'm totally lyke innocent guiz :(

Can we just rename him "Weasel Ichigo"? It would be a lot more true to his character.

>>5079460
>>5079460
Everyone: We have our male version of PT

How ignorant can you be?

aahhahaha sometimes i love you faggots.

The comments on his wall are even more ridiculous.
http://www.facebook.com/LivingIchigocosplays?sk=wall

>"So as of right now im like 85% sure i can have Saturday off so i can go to Yaoi-con so for my friends still wondering if im still going, then its more than likely yes."

Have fun guys! He's going to Yaoi Con this weekend to strip his top off in the contest again.

>>5079699
I'm pretty sure chibi-chan is a troll...

>>5079726
Like I told my friend just now, he could stab someone in front of his fans and they'd still claim the victim fell on the knife. Hell, Chibi Chan would probably stare right at the body and go "What body? I don't see anyone."

< Chibi Chan

All of the evidence was false anyway.

>>5079786
are you serious? That girl looks like she never seen the light of the day.

From his google+ account: https://plus.google.com/105850547168475289886/posts

I came across it and a friend said I should share the lulz. There's also a post about prop guns he ordered not long ago, which is strange because his amazing secret brother seems to be able to replicate ~anything~ (I'll post a cap of that too, just for the sake of argument I suppose.)

>>5079876
As promised here's the proof he buys (at least some) props despite having an amazing mystery brother who is super skilled at making props.

>>5079876
>>5079786
>mfw

Another Seagull and I tried to hunt down any proof of this amazing movie prop maker brother and there's nothing. I found two possible younger brothers through his Myspace but they're both underage and there's no sign of any older brothers.

>>5079890
Funny thing about those ebony and ivory. . . They aren't for sale. . . The person who made them said they weren't going to make another set. . . And also, the picture is from years ago. I have the exact picture saved on my desktop just for reference of the gun because they do look good. Just goes to show he's still full of shit. Or he got ripped off, and someone used that old picture to sell whatever they're making. . .

Wait, what?

I await the day LI comes crashing down from his high horse.

Voted for LI.

fuck you bratty cunts.

>>5078200
http://pikminlink.deviantart.com/journal/44918287/?offset=20#comments

>>5080092

>Pikminlink saying pretty much the same thing cgl and a few other competitors have been saying since this fiasco started

what's your point?

>>5080043
like one vote is going to matter at this point lol

>>5080145
It's the only public announcement of PL I could find on LI. Just providin'.

>>5080092
And your point is? Everyone has been saying he didn't make the mask, both his mask and the Ebay mask are identical, and even the Ebay seller said they had yet to find anyone that could replicate their product and have it look like theirs since they're the original makers of that design. Hell, PikminLink even said she wouldn't care if he bought it or not, as long as he didn't lie about it.

Dear god this crap's still going on? A part of me just wants to get involved for the sheer joy of debate and arguing.

>>5080168

Ah, gotcha. Wasn't sure if you were the "PL was bashing LI and lost my vote" Anon or not

To stay on topic, what do you guys make of LI getting invited to IGN or whatever?

>>5080092
That's your proof? You're an idiot.

>>5080194
Big whoop. I received a couple invites of various degrees and gotten free shit. It happens. Hell I've shown up all on my own and gotten the hook ups.

Good for him if he gets to have a fun experience. It's no biggie.

>>5080194
Starting to wonder if he used "got invited" just to make himself seem important like they actually asked him to show up.

>>5080194
He wasn't invited. It was public that he decided to go to.

By invite it means "you need to be on a list/get this piece of paper to get through the door." You know how either of those happen for a lot of people? By knowing someone who is press, someone who works at the place, or someone who knows someone, etc. Shit, I have a friend at G4 who gets me free stuff too and you don't see me harping about it.

>>5080365
It makes you the bigger person anon.

Theodore is the male version of an attention whore. Who's with me on this?

>>5080387
>Male version of an attention whore

Guys can't be/weren't attention whores before? I agree that he's an attention whore with a terrible ego, but come on, attention whoring isn't just for the girls haha

>>5079680

LI's new name is Lying Ichigo

>>5080411
Agreed

>>5080387
We get what you're saying though and I agree

>>5080092
pikminlink being as opinionated and holier-than-thou as usual.

She always like to pull that "Trust me I am an expert on this topic" bullshit. Like having used fiberglass before qualifies a person to judge if something is a copy or not. You can't possibly judge something like that without looking at it up close, and unless you can actually SEE the fiberglass that is completely irrelevant.

In before pikminlink's goon squad leaping on grenades for her.

>>5080453
Just feeding your fire by responding. That's what you're expecting to happen right? People to respond?

>>5080453
can we go back to "damn, his 'brother' is good at copying shit?" most art guys will make it their own way instead of try to 1:1 clone something

>>5080453
You're stupid.
>>5074834
>>5074828

>>5080475
His non existing brother?
He only has two that are much younger than him.

>>5080511

>>5080511
hence the ' '

>>5080511
Yep, this is true. In some of his old Myspace photos, he's with two younger boys and they both share his last name. All the guys his age or older he's with in photos don't share the last name.

>>5080505
I don't care if he copied it or not. I just think it's retarded that pikminlink always tries to pull the "Trust me I R xpert" routine. Just like how she tried to claim that Jackie's picture was photoshoped because "I have worked with wig dyes a lot and so I know". She wants to look like she's the deciding factor in every argument, thinking that the attention and fans of hers will see her as an authority.

There is NO possible way she would know for a fact its a copy, she's just going on conjecture of what it appears just like everyone else. Trying to claim decisive authority expertise on something she doesn't actually have in itself is deceptive. Guilty of her own dogmas.

>>5080553
today our expertise is going to be the "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck" variety

>>5080553 Just like how she tried to claim that Jackie's picture was photoshoped because "I have worked with wig dyes a lot and so I know"

/r/ picture? Now I want to see.

>>5080553
Working with fiberglass gives you some insight to the process. She also states "the two items are completely the exact same thing." A statement like that reads that with what experience she has, she can see if something in the realm of fiberglass work looks similar or not to another project. We can all make something out of matching materials but no one ever makes something exactly the same way and have it come out twice. We're humans. Shit just don't work that way unless you got a perfect, indestructible, mold and a flawless cast.

But the biggest and only argument she makes is not "Oh I know fiberglass and I can tell when someone didn't fiberglass." Her claim was "It's clearly obvious this guy has just bought the mask and lied. If he had made it, it probably would have looked different."

The rest is just her mentioning that she's dealt with cases of bought costumes being claimed as hand made. That pretty much means anything that falls under the word "costume."

But that's just me arguing a point. Take it as you will.

>>5080599
Do you even know what fiberglass is? It's interwoven cloth that reinforces a prop with resin. It doesn't have it's own distinct surface. Once sanded it's completely sheen with zero texture. No matter how much a person has worked with fiberglass in the past there's absolutely no way to know if such a prop was made from fiberglass, bondo, wood/gesso, or something else.

She exploits people like you with her statements, hoping that the people she is speaking to has no experience on the subject and will look up to her as the deciding factor on the topic of cosplay. Or whatever else she decides she wants to pretend to be an expert on.

>>5080641

Stop talking. Seriously...you might get troll replies out of people who don't know how to work with the material, but to anyone who's familiar with it, you sound like an idiot.

I've been doing fiberglass work for 10 years now, costuming now and auto-body previously. Fiberglass, FRP, body filler, etc... is something you learn and get better with in time.

NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE starts off being *that* good with the material. There is no way in hell this jackass made that helmet as his "first". My first Halo helmet was a piece of shit, and that was after doing glass work for 5/6 years. Precise curves like that mask has is not easy but any means.

So yes, this is someone else who is very experienced in working with fiberglass telling you to shut the fuck up.

>>5080641
Hook. Line. Sinker.

To exploit me would mean that I'm doing this on her behalf and she's aware of it. I'm arguing with you because you get mad if I argue against you. I see you missed the rock I fed you earlier.

>>5080660
but his 'brother' is a professional movie prop maker!

>>5080641
You still never showed us this pic about some wig she was talking about.

>>5080660
Oh great, another moron trying to pull the "trust me i r xpert" routine. Like I'm going to believe your awful cosplays are done by anything but an amateur.

You don't even know what you're arguing, by the way. You just admitted that the helmet in question is an expertly done job, which would mean it's even harder to tell if its fiberglass or not since a well sanded glassed and resined piece would have zero texture.

The helmet in question has a completely sheen texture, something you can achieve from a variety of materials. Even an expert on the topic would NOT be able to tell what it was made from unless they had the opportunity to analyze it close up, especially after it's been painted. And pikminlink sure as hell is NOT an expert, regardless of what she would have her little 15 year old deviantart fans believe.

Keep on trucking with that obvious vendetta, btw.

>>5080664
I didn't mean she's personally using you to make your dumb whiteknight responses. I was saying that she exploits people LIKE you with their lack of knowledge on craftwork.

>>5080694
>Expert job
>Guy claims it's his first time making helmet.
>Pieces aren't adding up.

If the holes in your argument were any bigger. I'd fall into them.

>>5080694
No one cares. You are the only one getting worked up over this shit.

>>5080694
>>5080641
>doesn't know who Maguma and 4ng are
>doesn't know their cosplay skill is 1,000,000x better than LI

Confirmed for one of LI's retarded white knights, most likely the first one who showed up here in the first thread that began this whole discussion.

Seriously, these guys KNOW what they are talking about. You clearly don't if you think "it's impossible to ever be able to tell."

Yes, cosplayers who know what the fuck they are talking about ARE going to pull the "hey, I know what you are talking about and I smell bullshit card" because that's what you do. Not blindly follow some dumbfuck who lies about everything he possibly can to make himself look better.

>>5080694

Like I said on the OH page, I've been around long enough to know shit like this...and guess what...I was right.

For arguments sake though, most of the mask makers in China (and similar Asian countries where these are mass produced) use a method in which they auto-cad the design, and then either 3D print it, sculpt it...aka, build it somehow. They then mold the helmet and cast using FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic). I know this because I've asked multiple mask makers (mainly the kigurumi community) who sell on ebay, commission privately, etc...

So yes, again, I'm right and you're an idiot. Send those guys a message asking what their helmets are made out of and see what answer you get...granted, you'll already know the answer because I just told you, but it'll still be pretty funny.

>>5080712
I'm not arguing if its bought or not (it might not be, you know. the paint jobs look very different), I just think it's bullshit that pikminlink always wants people to THINK she's some kind of decisive authority. Especially when she couldn't possibly know something.

>>5080726
I am familiar with both them having posted anonymously on this board for a couple years. Neither of them are good cosplayers. Let alone authority voices on craftwork.

People just loooove to use the "trust me Im an expert" routine because they think it can forge them up a trump card to button up an argument. Life isn't so convenient. It's my pet peeve.

If you are against this LI guy then fine, I really don't care. But don't start lying about your expertise on a subject like you've just been called into trial as an expert witness. That makes you just as big of a liar as the guy you're accusing of being one.

>>5080741
>If you are against this LI guy then fine, I really don't care

>>5080694
Is this Bunny Mage from the last thread

Because you sound almost exactly like her

Read as: you're plugging up your ears and screaming "LALALALA" whenever someone can mention something sketchy and suspect LI has done and screamed "WHERE'S THE PROOF" even with things that are really obvious

>>5080741
Still waiting on that wig picture

>>5080741
I think your pet peeve may be an actual problem, instead of the former.

I'm no where in 4ng's league in terms of craftsmanship but if you think 4ng isn't good at what he does, then your view of what is good is a bit jaded.

Also I'd say you just don't like pikminlink.

>>5080741
>Neither of them are good cosplayers.

>>5080748
Another dumbass that is so far into your little vendetta against LI that you're not even paying attention.

I don't give two shits about LI or whether or not he made something. I'm simply saying that pikminlink is NOT an expert on the subject, nor could she garner such decisive information from just looking at a low-res picture.

If she wanted to say "Those pictures look pretty suspicious. It looks like he might be lying and I don't respect that" then that would be one thing. But giving some stupid routine of "THIS LOOKS SHOPPED I KNOW FROM SEEING A LOT OF FIBERGLASSES IN MY TIME" is just stupid. She doesn't know more than anyone else.

Bunny Mage confirmed.

>>5080765 I'm simply saying that pikminlink is NOT an expert on the subject

No one, not even she said she was an expert. Get over your vendetta.

>>5080741
>Implying Maguma and 4ng31 aren't good cosplayers


You seriously just went full retard, and I no longer have interest in reading your posts.

>>5080765
No we hear you. But we don't care about YOUR vendetta against pikminlink. I think that's where things are getting lost in translation.

>>5080768
You nigger I was just about to say that

>>5080776
I'm no nigger! You take that back right now!

>>5080781
Fine you fatty

>>5079460
Did anyone else notice how he didn't actually apologize in this? He called himself "foolish" but didn't apologize for lying to his fans or to the people he stole the images from? It's all just a bunch of excuses.

>>5080759
No offense, but I think you are looking through rose-colored tripfag glasses if you think either of you make good cosplays. Your circle jerk is held in a very small, empty room. But if it makes you feel any better I really don't care. Even if the both of you were the gods of cosplay you still wouldn't know from looking at a couple dumb pictures whether something is the exact same fiberglass job or not. You're just making guesses same as everyone else.

And no, I don't like how pikminlink conducts herself online. I find her to be obnoxious and opinionated. It's not a vendetta, just an annoyance.

>>5080771
She implied she has expertise in a craft material that is so strong that she can judge it's legitimacy off justgazing at a vague picture. If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you.

>>5080785
not fat either..

>>5080765
>doesn't know more than anyone else.

So, people that have advanced skill in costume making and using certain materials don't know more than Joe Schmo? CAN YOU GET ANY MORE STUPID???

>>5080795
>And no, I don't like how pikminlink conducts herself online. I find her to be obnoxious and opinionated. It's not a vendetta, just an annoyance.
>obnoxious and opinionated
>obnoxious and opinionated
>obnoxious and opinionated

>>5080795
> "I really don't care"
> Followed by long-ass post and randomly attacking tripfags who were giving their opinion
Um

>>5080803
pikminlink does NOT have "advanced skills". She has a general competency in certain areas. And as I've said several times, even an expert would not be able to decipher if a prop was even MADE from fiberglass from looking at such a picture, let alone judge that it's the EXACT SAME job. An expert fiberglassed and painted prop does not show an obvious texture.

>>5080795
Only been sewing for a year. I can't be all THAT good. But I think I've got a few things down so far~

Also lol opinions. You have them.

>>5080817
The argument that needs to be made here is not. "I can see expert when I see it" but "This looks too nice to be a first time attempt. I know what a first time attempt looks like, and baby, this ain't it!"

LyingIchigo stupid faggot fans:
> I like the pictures of his costumes. My liking of them *obviously* means He is a beacon of truth and good values and as such, I will always believe in Him, as his word is enough, complete and utter proof of what He is saying.

Non stupid folks:
> I saw where he claimed something. Abundant evidence I have reviewed myself points to the contrary. I conclude there's a super high chance of his word being boloney.

>>5080817
Why are you defending him so much?
Clearly it's the exact same item >>5074834

>>5080833
Because miss Bunny Mage is completely batshit, like most of LI's fans

It's pretty hard to deny the shots here: >>5074834

It's practically copy+pasted over onto his head. The only major difference between the manufacturer photos and his cosplay photos is the lighting, which make it look much more reflective. I, anonymous, am qualified to say they are the same. My qualifications? Having two eyeballs attached to a brain. It's NOT that difficult.

>>5080817
chill the fuck out!

>>5080833
bitches be crazy

>>5080844
If I could like a 4chan post, this one would be it.

>>>5080808
Way to read the entire statement, dumbass.


>>5080828
Exactly. Which is why pikminlink should shut up with her constant "Im an expert so Im right" bullshit. All I'm saying.

>>5080833
I never ONCE defended him. Jesus christ are you people so submersed in your little vendetta crusade that you cant even fucking read? "HURR DURR UR SAYIN A BAD THINK ABOUT PL DAT MUST MEEN UR HIZ SUPPORTER DURR". I don't care about him NOR this pointless contest. Not every post is about your little Team A vs Team B squabble. People who have emotional investments in cosplayers they dont even know are losers.

>>5080852
Then shut up. This stupid discussion is over. you have made your point that you don't like how PL says things. And we all clearly can tell the helmet was bought. Life goes on.

>>5080852
> EVERYONE IS VENDETTA POSTING BUT ME
> I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING THAT'S WHY I'M STILL POSTING
I was going to sleep but there's seriously so much thinly-veiled mad here that I don't want to leave

>>5080852 Which is why pikminlink should shut up

You're getting a little too emotional. Time to step away from the computer Living Ichigo.

>>5080852 her constant "Im an expert so Im right" bullshit.

Constant? Where are the others? And this barely counts as one, I think you're reading too far into her words. She basically said what everyone else already said. Nothing new, move along.

>>5080865
Pretty much this. I don't read it as her saying: "I'm an expert, so I'm right," I read it as: "I've had experience in this, so this is my formulated opinion." Not once does she demand what she is saying is absolute truth. It is her own speculation.

>mfw I've read this thread for about an hour instead of doing anything productive of my time.

I still find this fucking funny tho. Bleach is hell of a fucking terrible anime, guy is not even /fit/ at all, looks disproportionate as fuck and look like an overall douche.

I say we try to nominate pixyteri as #1.

>>5080884
She didn't say it was her opinion, she said it as a fact. "I looked at the pictures and this is wrong. I know because I have experience blah blah."

She tried to make it sound like she was the confirming factor, but really she doesn't know more than anyone else.

>>5080918

Living Ichigo sounds like a nice guy and everything he has said has been respectful and rational. The hate shown in this thread is pretty shameful.

If a cosplayer irl acted as hateful, bitchy and disparaging as you people are acting here then they would be seen as among the worst people in the community. If you want to attack somebody for vile behavior, try looking within. Just because this board is anonymous doesn't mean it's ok to be atrocious.

>>5080918
But she *DOES* know more than you...

>>5080918

That's what you make of it. And by the sound of it, it's what you WANT to make of it.

>>5080934
>make a sound point concerning something

>U SUX SHE BETTER THAN U

this is why it's pointless to argue with fangirls.

>>5080929

Mostly people are hating on him cus he has been lying and cheating. That doesn't sound like a nice person to me, regardless of whether he's a jolly good guy irl.

Also you're on a board dominated by sand-filled vaginas protected by anonymity. Expecting anything but such behaviour is foolish.

>>5080940

Vice versa, dear. You're the one who's nitpicking one whole comment made by PL and keep on arguing about it refusing to see that perhaps your interpretation of it isn't necessarily the only one, nor necessarily the correct one.

>>5080940
If it's so pointless arguing, why you still here then? Take yo ass elsewhere.

>>5080940
> That's why it's pointless to argue with fangirls

> That's why it's pointless to argue with fangirls

> That's why it's pointless to argue with fangirls

We've finally reached critical levels of stupid everyone evacuate /cgl/

>>5080936
>""I've worked with fiberlgass so much and studying things down to the last details and the two items are completely the exact same thing."

This is not a statement posing an opinion. This is a statement posed as a FACT. Despite not possibly knowing for sure, she has deemed on her invisible expertise that they are the same mask. How could she possibly know this? She can't. She's guessing, same as the rest of the losers in this thread.

Read the statement carefully, btw. Pikminlink is trying to tell people that her skills in fiberglassing are so strong that it has enhanced her ability to discern details of photos to the point where she can judge something as factual. This makes absolutely NO SENSE and it would take the most emboldened fangirl to try to spin that in a way where it would be rational.

>>5080946
You've taken it into yourself to judge him as lying and cheating based on what you want to believe and have automatically rejected everything he has said on the matter because you don't want to accept it.

You hate him because you WANT to hate him. And probably because you're upset that pikminlink isn't winning. This is personal bullshit, not righteousness.

>>5080963 and studying things down to the last details

Yes, if you knew her you'd know that she will sit there for long periods of time studying things, comparing them, etc. It's what she does. She has a good eye for details and guess what? So do a lot of other people which is why All of these people are saying the mask is bought.
It's no rocket science. Now kindly GTFO.

>>5080958
I laughed way too hard

>>5080963
You're trying too hard. Why are you here again?

>>5080971
Pikminlink is winning. People are making their decisions by looking at what's been put in front of them. Some people aren't believing that he's a liar. Those would be his supporters. There are those who see that the stuff looks far too similar and see that the two items look the same and are calling him a liar. Some people straight up think this is all fucking dumb. And even some think it's some of these combined.

So yeah. welcome to opinions

>>5080963
> It's p-much exactly alike
> Fiberglassing is hard
> Most people with eyes can see that they're really alike
> Pikminlink makes one post saying more or less what everyone else thinks
> Bunny Mage (Still totally think it's you, you have the right amount of mad) shrieks at the astute observation made by a sane-minded individual
> After making love to her body pillow of LI she storms into /cgl/ saying that she's right and everyone else is wrong
> Everyone hates her opinion
> Keeps posting
> Wondering why everyone's siding against her

Seriously shut up and stop trying to drag Pikminlink down with your husbando he fucked up and a lot of his lies were bad

I'm about to pass out but even I can tell you're ignoring all rationality and trying to make an argument about the validity of a statement because the tone used was condescending to you

And I'll give you a hint that doesn't make it any less true, LI any less of a liar, and everyone else who's winning the competition less way the fuck in the lead

Going to bed because you're taking too long to reply and seeing you stupid in the same way repeatedly isn't my idea of a fun night

>>5080918
No. She says, and I quote: "I've worked with fiberglass so much, and studying things down to the last details, the two items are completely the exact same thing."

A. She states her experience with fiberglass
B. She states she looked over his work in scrutiny
C. She formulates her opinion that they are the same

Also, Living Ichigo himself states: "I'm no expert with fiberglass but we did use many materials to make the mask: fiberglass, pvc, plaster, not sure what else."

So, given that PL does have experience using fiberglass multiple times, having been a judge in multiple contests and seeing an array of levels of craftsmanship, and seeing that the guy himself admits he is a novice to fiberglass, PL can easily come to the conclusion that his skill level was not on par with the outcome of the mask to be so identical to the eBay product.

Now your argument has been rendered invalid.

>>5080971

Except you're wrong. I haven't voted in this contest since I don't care about them. I barely know who PL and LI are through these threads alone and from having visited the site out of curiosity.

I don't hate the guy cus I don't have a reason to hate him. None whatsoever. The only thing I "hate" about him is that retarded workout routine he has followed with his rather abysmal body composition as a result. And even with that I don't hate him, I just view him as an average curlbro.

Now all that aside - I've looked at the thread, the "evidence" posted, the comments back and forth about it and of course the votes suddenly going down after the glitch was fixed and the only conclusion I can make thus-far, unless he posts evidence to the contrary, is that he has at the very least lied, and most likely also cheated or instigated the cheating.

There are hardly any personal feelings involved here (except for that workout... ugh). It's just deductive reasoning at work. I still don't hate the guy. I just call em for what its worth.

>>5080963
Holy shit you are dense..

It makes NO SENSE that you can't accept that it's not that hard to be able to look at the evidence presented and judge that LI is a lying fraud and his mask is of the purchased variety. It doesn't take an "expert."

Bunny Mage is just angry that PL is a girl. Caused BM huge emotional trauma when this got revealed.

>>5081001
From what I've seen in previous threads, Bunny Mage is actually a guy. I know, the "bunny" part is misleading. Though, s/he could've been lying about that.

>>5081008
Oh god he's one of us
On behalf of the homosexual community I apologize
We all aren't this retarded over our mancandy
> God I need to sleep it took me three tries to say homosexual

>>5080981
So now you're going to regale me with tall tales of how wondrous pikminlink is and how she shits rainbows and her tears cure cancer. Wonderful. It's just like every other pikminlink thread where her little fangirls try to defend her to the death going as far as to make up whatever stories necessary. Your next statement will be how you met her in real life and both she and her father told you how right you are in the argument.

But getting back to planet reality, the fact still stands that she doesn't know any more than anyone else who looks at the pictures. She's making her own OPINION but wants people to believe she knows for certain. She doesn't. End of story.

>>5080986
Opinions are fine. Bullshit is not.

>>5080990
You should probably go to bed. You're just flailing mindlessly thinking youre defending pikminlink somehow not making any points.

"Admin's note :
We have been monitoring the comments for some time and decided to address the issues brought up.

Regarding self-made costumes in this contest; we would like to reiterate that it is not part of our rules to submit self-made costumes since day 1. If we subjected 1 participant to a certain amount of scrutiny, we would have had to subject all our contestants to the same amount of scrutiny. For an online contest, this is impossible to enforce and hence not added into our rules. We have since put up a clear detailed explanation on our FAQ no. 5 here : http://www.otakuhouse.com/online-cosplay-competition-faq/.

Having said that, we would also like to address the other issue of integrity that was brought up; to which we have been grateful for the passionate responses and feedback. We were dismayed by the implicit conclusions of some findings regarding this cosplayer's 'tutorial', and are also glad that Living Ichigo have clarified this after we asked him for an explanation and he have admitted that it was "foolish to use pictures (he) found on the internet". We understand that he has since removed the tutorial.

We welcome all feedback on how we can improve the contest. Please feel free to email cosplayidol@otakuhouse.com if you wish to provide suggestions.

Thanks to all!
- Cosplay Idol Team."

>>5081014

>>5081014
Then shut. Up.

>>5081014
Honestly I wouldn't have even voted for her more likely than not
LOZ ain't my scene
And the only thing I'm defending is my probably correct view that you're a fucking moron who can't get that PL made a good point, whether their skills in resin or fiberglass or whatever the fuck the mask is made of is valid
Because that shit is pretty exact
Why would you willingly copy a company's mask for a cosplay
Aside from being an asshat
Anyways thread stopped bumping so I'm going to sleep for reals this time
Have fun lusting after LI's dick
You won't have it

>>5081014
My god you are stupid.

>>5081014
What bothers me is that you seem to be assuming what PL's intent is through text. The written language needs to be delicately written since it can only be read literally to form an opinion. For PL, English is her second language, her English is not going to be superb or even have the proper rules of writing.

So you are, somehow, reading her opinions as having deceitful intent. When in reality, you do not know what she is truly trying to convey.

Yet, here you are--being the victim of your very own complaint--trying to make others believe (much more matter-of-factly) that you are absolutely right in your formulated opinion of PL's text.

As they say: Pot, Kettle.

>>5080997
You can believe it based on them looking similar, but you don't know for certain. And it's stupid to claim you somehow know for a fact because "I work with fiberglass a lot" or because "I spend lots of time looking at details".

>>5080993
"I used fiberglass several times and judged a masquerade". Gosh, how impressive. If you're trying to elevate your argument you're failing miserably.

>>5081023
Take your own advice.

>>5081031
>PL IS AWESOME
>U SUCK
>LI IS A BAKA

Despite you continually replying to me you aren't saying anything. You're just arguing with me because you don't like what I've said.

>>5081031
Listen to this post, seriously.
You claim that you don't care about LI at all and are just here to hate on PL.

Well not all of us are PL "fans" just here for white-knighting. As this guy said, it's simply seeing a WELL-MADE argument and supporting it, rather than supporting a huge tool or any claims in his defense. And it's not because of a vendetta and "oh you'll believe it because you hate him," it's because the evidence against him is as bright as the sun.

>>5081048
You conveniently left how out Living Ichigo himself said it was made from fiberglass.

Your point is still invalid.

>>5081048
Wow I
You have bested me in traditional arguments
I must now counteract with putting words in your mouth
> BLACK PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BAD IN THE WORLD
> I DATED A GIRL ONCE BUT SHE WAS MY MOTHER
> PIKMINLINK IS A FIERCE-ASS BITCH AND I'D LIKE TO GET MY MICROPENIS ALL UP IN THAT

>>5081046
So in other words, I shouldn't take pikminlink's statements at face value because her english isn't good. And that her statements clearly posed as fact are actually just humble opinions or suggestions.

Sorry, but that's a little too far-fetched for me to believe. Almost as hard for me to believe that I'm actually arguing with someone so hell-bent on defending pikminlink that they are actually trying to argue this.

Seriously, you fangirls are ridiculous.

>>5081053
Which is the only reason pikminlink mentioned the term "fiberglass". If he said it was made from wood she'd claim to be an expert at wood.

"I HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL AND MY EYES HAVE RENDERED JUDGMENT!"

>>5081048
I'd take it if I wasn't making sense and realized that I was being proven wrong. But you just stated that her experience with a building material and status as a masquerade judge at multiple events given to her through the acknowledgement of her skills via the cosplay community here in America and OTHER COUNTRIES is not valid enough to make a judgement at a prop. A prop that we can all clearly see well enough to judge on it's quality of smooth surface and construction. Construction that which looks like it came from someone of experience and skill, contrary to the owner in question who claimed he is not experienced in and lacks the professional skills mentioned above.

Are you to tell me that clearly with these pieces in tact, that ANYONE! Not just pikminlink, but ANYONE can't say that this obviously looks like the work of a pro and could not come from the work of someone who has no prior skill to a material that requires practice and experience.

>>5081060
This ain't about pikminlink. This is about using STANDARD reading comprehension to assess a scenario that you are ignoring because you do not like the fact that PL talks like she knows exactly what's going on.

Read as: You are uppity because you don't like Pikminlink. We don't care, because it isn't about pikminlink. WE ALL SEE THE SAME FUCKING THING AND ARE NOT INFLUENCED BY AFOREMENTIONED LINK OF PIKMINS!

8/10 because I had to use caps and I'm actually enjoying trying to make a rebuttal that you might be able to understand like a high school graduate should. But that would imply you are one.

>>5081060
No. You shouldn't be assuming what PL's intent is through her text. You cannot possibly tell why she typed how she did and what her reasoning is behind it.

Once again, kettle and pot. You are just as guilty as what you believe PL to be doing.

Still, it does not change the fact that Living Ichigo himself said it was fiberglass and he has never worked with fiberglass before.

>>5081066
> Somebody says one thing
> Suddenly they have a shit holier than thou attitude and they're a gigantic cunt about everything
If you can find a post like that anywhere that doesn't apply to LI's shit mask then maybe I'll believe PL acts like that
But I doubt you'll find it
Goddamn stop being funny I need to wake up tomorrow

>>5081066
You are being even more guilty to further assume you would know exactly how she would post.

Bunny Mage, go to bed. Oh, and this is a formulated opinion on how much you hate PL, how often you claim you don't care yet still post, and call everyone PL fangirls, "goons", etc. (same words BM uses).

Also, I find it funny that Bunny Mage abbreviated to BM stands for Bowel Movement, which pretty much sums up all of their posts, as shit.

>>5081049
LI has made several very rational posts concerning the matters at hand and explaning everything. You haven't taken any of it into account and instead have just automatically dismissed it all because it goes against your campaign. You aren't interested in debate, you're interest in being a part of a 4chan lynch mob. No different than what people did with pixyteri or others.

>THIS GUYS A LIAR AND A CHEATER!! HE CHEATED AND LIED!!!!"

>"No I didn't, here, let me explain in detail, how things are and why it might appear that way.."

>"LIES! UR JUST LYING! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!"

Go ahead and burn those lynch torches. But don't claim to be a rational individual. This whole thread is stupidity and childishness.

>>5081076
I haven't "assumed" anything. She posted her judgment as a fact, NOT an opinion. You don't get to say "no she didnt mean what she said because her english is bad".

>>5081077
But he admitted to lying and cheating
In fact it says he admitted earlier in the thread
It literally makes your entire argument invalid

>>5081077
His "explanations" are just as flawed as his tutorial. I have already looked into it and discredited it since it appears faulty and does not match up.

>>5081048
>You can believe it based on them looking similar, but you don't know for certain.

Please, I would love for you to give ANY evidence supporting that it's NOT a bought mask. In this hobby, it's REALLY easy to tell when someone makes something and when they don't when you are able to compare it to another (in this case, we are comparing his helmet to an ebay one). When people actually make their own shit, it never looks THIS CLOSE to something made by someone else unless they made a mold and copied it. But he is not claiming that (making THAT possibility invalid), nor would he have the skill to turn out such a perfect copy right off the bat. There is not a single detail that sets them apart. If you can find one, please share so we can laugh at your attempted nitpicking.

This is the difference between our "opinions." We have evidence. You only have LI's word that he made it and your vendetta against PL and a raging boner saying "THERE'S NO WAY SHE COULD KNOW, SHE'S JUST A DUMB CUNT." You are trying SO HARD to discredit what PL has said that you are completely ignoring any evidence supporting her claim.

>>5081077
Alright then. Provide the evidence that proves he made it. Show me his progress pictures of an incomplete helmet. Show me him working on it. Give me facebook posts with pics of his progress as he made his hakama and kimono. Present your evidence that he himself used fiberglass and other materials to craft that mask in such a clean and gorgeous form.

Without this, your entire defense is moot. Welcome to an adult debate.

>>5081080
You just assumed that if the guy mentioned it was made from wood, PL would say she was an expert as wood.

Wow, you really are dense. Do you even realize you've already lost this debate long ago?

>>5081088
What you are refering to is not an "adult debate". People could submit all of that and you'd just claim it's a lie or its been doctored or the pictures were stolen.

You have an agenda as a PL fan, same as the rest of these stupid little girls. Nobody gives this much fuck about a stupid helmet.

>>5081077
Lying Dicktogo made several DAMAGE CONTROL posts.

>>5081095 Nobody gives this much fuck about a stupid helmet.

Except you.

>>5081095
Once again, you are just as guilty for stating an opinion as fact.

You sure do love to assume a lot. Maybe because it means make an ass out of you and me. That, and you are BM, basically, shit.

>>5081095
If you can prove me wrong. I'd give my word based on the identity that I carry as a tripfag that I'd back off. But you'd need to prove to me that you have proof clearly displaying he made that helmet. I'm not some fucking ignorant ass hat who ignores proof that goes against my beliefs. If you can prove me wrong I will accept that because unlike a 12 yr old ass, I can accept being wrong if proven to be.

Now I'll wait for that proof. Until then, you can't make a statement against my stance that proves me wrong. I have given you your window of opportunity. Take it or flake it.

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In case you forgot to look or notice anything

>>5081077
>LI has made several very rational posts
>rational posts

>haha_oh_jeeze.jpg

Seriously? He constantly contradicts himself and changes his story virtually the very next day.

I don't tend to like /cgl/ a whole lot, my gf once got targeted by a thread here, but this guy deserves a shitstorm. I'm not even trying to "be a part of it," I just can't help but be compelled to reply to your god-awful postings. Much like >>5081068

>>5081111
> mfw QUADS
I don't feel bad about posting this because this thread is already autosaging

>>5081105
So in other words you'll act like a jealous prick and make an ass out of yourself until you get proven wrong. It's Jessica Nigri all over again.

But contrary to what you and the other PL fangirl dorks keep insisting I am not a fan of LI. I don't care about him, her, or this stupid pointless contest. I've simply argued that PL is not an expert and should stop posing her stupid layman opinions as facts.

And yes, I've made the mistake of honoring you little whiny minions with replies when I should have just told you all that you're fucking idiots and ignored you. It's like trying to argue with adolescent girls about how Justin Bieber has bad hair.

>>5081095
LOLWUT

I love how every LI supporter thinks that we will debunk anything that supports him. It's not like all of the evidence that has been uncovered against him is fake or made up. Have you SEEN these posts?
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Solid evidence. This is something we have been asking for you to present in order to support your arguments, but you have none.

>>5081119
And again, a hypocrite. There is no way you could possibly tell what PL's intent was through reading broken English text (Doesn't this argument sound familiar? About fiberglass and masks? Hmmm).

>>5081119
> So what you're saying is you're going to have your opinion until it's proved to be wrong

Um
Isn't this what people do with opinions I'm confused

I mean you're doing it right now kind of

Refusing to back off of Pikminlink (whom you brought up in the first place, classy) until you either convert everyone to your side or until you feel that they know they're wrong

Also you'd have to be following some shit if you found that image in the first place so stop lying

>>5081119
Hahaha. Diverting to a past issue? Cute but irrelevant.

This ain't about Jessica, this ain't about Living Ichigo, this ain't about Pikminlink. You want to argue that PL is not an expert. But you have not even once tried to justify this with any other evidence beyond the one comment IN RELATION to Living Ichigo's mask. So obviously like >>5081129 said. If you're gonna gripe about a comment related to this overall issue we've been paying attention to. You care about this to some degree. Defend your point or stop running in circles.

You made a mistake, and that was thinking that stating the same piece of evidence and why you don't like it is going to make you seem like you can argue.

>>5081119
>should stop posing her stupid layman opinions as facts
U mad?

>>5081119
Mentions Jessica Nigiri. Another point towards you being Bunny Mage, also again with the PL Fan names and pretending you don't care.

No one hated on PL until Bunny Mage came in and was the only person hating.

>>5081128
>THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY TO DISCERN PIKMINLINK'S TEXT!

Her english is fine. Your attempts to dismiss incriminating statements are more than a little desperate.

>>5081129
>implying your irrational hatred towards LI isn't because you're a PL supporter

Nah, that couldn't be it. You must just have a REALLY, REALLY passionate love of prop helmet discussions.

>>5081135
Or rather, is* (not was) the only person hating on PL.

Yeah out of curiosity Bunny Mage why did you drop your trip

It's not like anyone can see you and we already hate your dumb ass from the last thread

Our opinions of you will not change at all

It's kind of funny, since from what I understand "LI" is also pikminlink's first name.

>>5081137
But........ you started....................... the conversation............................ and you wouldn't drop it at all....................................................

Is this what someone going full retard looks like

>>5081141
Yeah I lol'd at that way back when, but yeah she sometimes goes by Li. Or Liz. *shrug*

>>5081137
Coming from someone who has poor English as well, your statement doesn't say much. Her English, no offense to her, is riddled with grammatical errors and improper set-up. This can and will cause some confusion in reading comprehension.

Yet, I still do not understand how you jumped to such conclusions of her pushing her opinions as fact or even how you believe you can understand her intent.

>>5081145
I didn't "start a conversation". I gave my opinion. YOU whiny motherfuckers wanted to argue with me.

Admit it, you just can't stand when ANYTHING negative is said about pikminlink. If someone said they saw her picking her nose in a parking lot you'd leap up to say "NO SHE DIDN'T UR A LIAR IT WAS AN ITCH!"

>>5081146
She never goes by "Liz", that was a nickname someone else came up for her. She only refers to herself as "Li".

>>5081149
Bunny Mage, stop dropping your trip, we all know its you. You say the same shit all the time.

>>5081137
>implying your irrational hatred towards LI isn't because you're a PL supporter

wat
I can't hate him because he's a huge tool?

It has already been stated that this whole discussion is not about LI or PL or the OH contest or any of that, it's that you are a FUCKING RETARDED and some of us are drawn to reply to you. If this was about the contest, I would honestly like Kyle to win...but, again, that's not the point of what this discussion is about.

>>5081145 Is this what someone going full retard looks like

I'm afraid it is.

SOMEONE is mad.

I don't know either of these guys, but to me it's pretty obvious one of them has some real growing talent, and the other is an ebayer.

I've been making stuff sine LOOOONG before Cosplay became popular. I was mainly in the Sci-Fi circuit originally. I'd consider myself of a HIGH skill level when it comes to almost any material now. I work in 'glass, urethane, silicone, latex, wood, paper, metal... you name it, I probably used it.

From that experience, I can assure you that PL is the real deal. There's a few flaws and faults here and there, but that's how you can tell she's actually good, and that the costumes are hand made.

LI's mask is TOO GOOD. It's factory grade good. The kind of quality you can only get with machines that cost more than 99% of the people in the world can afford.

>>5081150
Then I must have witnessed some strange freak of nature or a weird scenario? oh well. Whatevs.

>>5081149
You gave an opinion. And people didn't agree with it. So they brought up their point. And you immediately called them out for being PL fans. Then after they decided to present facts about the BIG PICTURE. You kept on rattling on about PL's attitude. All you care about is PL, we are talking about a case of what could be fraud in the realm of prop making.

You can't seem to look past that to get what's going on and will continue to bash anyone against you for liking PL when in REALITY, and yes, this is my intention, is to make a statement towards or against the integrity of LI and the making of that mask vs it being store bought.

>>5081153
Don't give me that, Miyu! It's obvious it's you!

It's interesting though that I am now somehow associated with all things negative concerning Pikminlink.

>>5081149
> 2011
> Not expecting /cgl/ to rip you a new anus for having an opinion

But seriously you've contradicted yourself a couple of times, put words in people's mouths, and basically been a general asshat

If you want the argument to die then let it die

Also
> Implying I didn't vote for Sorceress Edea

>>5081149
> 2011
> Not expecting /cgl/ to rip you a new anus for having an opinion

But seriously you've contradicted yourself a couple of times, put words in people's mouths, and basically been a general asshat

If you want the argument to die then let it die

Also
> Implying I didn't vote for Sorceress Edea

So I was directed to this thread from the outside. I was having a nap, and when I woke up, this was brought to my attention.

I cannot, CANNOT believe that you people are having this discussion whatsoever. However, please do not stop doing it! Please keep arguing about whatever you are actually arguing about, because by Jove, this thread makes me giggle. It's like putting two random bugs in a jar, ones that would normally not ever deal with each other, and seeing which one lasts the longest. I'm rooting for the grasshopper with one leg and a lazy eye, though the mantis with the safety scissors and retard helmet is doing just as well.

I wonder which side will get tired and go back to eating glue first.

if this thread pics up in a new one, please link it here. Work tomorrow and this is just too damn amusing.

Also, I have a new respect for Maguma.

>>5081163
No one gives a shit to what you have to say. GTFO Bunny Mage.

>>5081172
Keep on Keepin' on BD