especially dressed like that.

There are respectful ways and disrespectful ways to go about this.

Then again OP is most likely just a troll since this topic always gets like 200 replies and lots of butthurt in between.

They're dead, what do they care?

Conduct yourself like a decent human being and bear in mind the sort of place you're in, and it's not a problem. If there's a family there to mourn (or, god forbid, a funeral going on), pack your shit up and leave right then and there. You don't need to be prancing around like an idiot where people can see you, anyway. But if no one is there to visit and you're not being a disrespectful fuck, there's no harm in taking a few pictures. You're photographing the environment, not the corpses.

If you are not dead or there to pay respects, then you don't belong there.

>>5007004
/end thread

I've taken photos of some of the graves and floral arrangements in the local military graveyard. That and it's right next to my house.

>>5007004
Worded it better than I could have.

I would never make a picture like that. Thats just disrespectful. I did make a panorama shot of our graveyard once in winter, and I felt horrible afterwards for taking pictures in such a place. Even though it was just to show grandma, how the graves of the family members were looking like at the moment ^^''

Mixed feelings on the whole graveyard thing. Taking pictures that mess up or disturb burial plots or memorial statues that belong to families of the deceased is a big nono, but I really have no problem with cosplayers using personal family burial plots for photos. My family has its own cemetery and I'd have no problems using it for photos since it is our family's land and I already have a burial plot there in case of my death. However, I'd be pissed if anyone used it without mine or someone in my family's permission for photography or video.

Its a bit case by case....

The motto I've always taken is go to the old graveyards, I'm talking any one who will miss these people are no longer alive old. You can still find some of them. I think their actually more aesthetically pleasing and your not going to disturb mourners, and if you some how do run across mourners, then pack up and leave that instant.

I also wouldn't come in cosplay, but instead scout to make sure your not going to be disturbing any one then change into it in the car or some where near by (or put a coat on, something) just to make sure you dont disturb. Im one who see's graveyards being there for the living to grieve, so my philosophy is dont get in the way of others or disrespect their recently departed loved ones.

That said, I'd also, if you are a sentimental person or not, at least be polite. Dont get names clear enough in the photos so that they can be read, and I actually recommend leaving a flower there for the graves that get captured in pictures.

And lastly do it only for cosplay where it makes sense. Your not being edgy by doing a random anime shoot in the grave yard. But I can see it working for something where death is a heavy issue and graveyards have been locations in the series.

tl,dr, be respectful to the mourners and the dead, and go for the older graves where you wont disturb.

i've seen this come up a few times but what about "historic" graves? Like a real life famous person is involved in your source material, and are buried somewhere easily accessible... like someone dressed as Eternal Sonata Chopin posing with an actual Chopin memorial or such?

>not this thread again.
>>5007446
>>5007004
These.

When i went to Germany, i took photos at the local graveyeard. Not cosplay, but still, took photos. It was a breathtaking area.But, before i left, any stone i took a photo of, i put a flower on/beside 'them' for respect. Also, but the town i was livng it, almost everyone was related so it was more of a family graveyard, and no, i didn't just GO to it. The girl i was staying with told me it would be a good idea and she enjoyed giving me a history lesson about some of the peolpe she knew, or knew of.

I know osme friends, that take photos for modeling on sites, but they photo shot the name out off the stone.

Sorry, but no Thriller Bark cosplay is complete without a graveyard photoshoot.
(Picture is not me, just one of my favorite Namis)

I think it's fine as long as the graveyard is empty, and you're not disturbing anyone.

PROTIP: Never go into Chinese or Japanese Cemeteries unless you pay respect first to the deceased (unless your going in directly to a family grave to pay respects). Briefly stand at the entrance and pray for a few moments. You will get bad luck if you ignore the spirits.

For that matter, if your community has one, find a Potters Field.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potters_field

>You will get bad luck if you ignore the spirits.
Now I'm all for giving due respect and not being an asshole in a place of mourning, but just so you know, that shit is stupid.

>>5007494

No mock. Some copper thieves where I live tried to steal urns and whatnot from a Japanese cemetery, and one of them tripped and the headstone from a grave he fell in front of tipped over and fell onto him. Crushed his skull given it was a 200lb boulder with kanji chiseled into it.

Had a group of kids knocking over markers and breaking into a bone house of a Chinese Cemetery one night........the truck they were riding in jackknifed and three of them were killed when they were thrown from the truck while riding in the bed. Turns out they stupidly took a grave marker from the site.

So no mock the spirits.

>>5007494
easterners are a lot more spiritual than westerners

How do you guys feel about taking photos in a well-known, but possibly abandoned cemetery?

>believe in anything supernatural like ghosts and spirits

i hope you dont do this

People who want their stinky rotting remains dumped in a hole in the ground creep me out. So weird and gross. I don't understand it at all. I want to be cremated and poured into a hole with a tree planted into it.

Then one day someone will make pies from the apples from the tree and I can haunt their pie.

i bring high schoolers to graveyard to fuck. makes em think i'm edgy. Nothing gets a minor's rocks off harder then desecrating a a headstone. I love to pull out and blow my load onto the name. They fucking love it when I do that.

>>5007742
I like the way you think!

It's one of those things that can make amazing photographs, cosplay or otherwise. but a lot of people are very sensitive on the matter. As long as people treated it with a sense of respect, I wouldn't mind people taking shots in the local grave, where most my relatives are burred.

But yeah, some people don't like it, so were I to do it I'd be sure no one was around, especially were they mourning.

>>5007742
Fuck that I'm getting shot int space.

>>5007742

>Then one day someone will make pies from the apples from the tree and I can haunt their pie.

If some fat weeaboo started taking pictures of themselves in shitty cosplay on top of my grave, I'd haunt the fuck out of them

People die every day. As long as you're not laying on graves and shit, who gives a fuck? You people are too sensitive.

>>5007977

Yeah, what the fuck? But still, I lay on graves when I have the chance to. There's benches, but who cares when I can sit on top of a dead person?
My favorite is Nina Jæren. (Norwegian. Lived from 1817-1860)

Fuck you sensitive fucks, and try gravesitting once.

Picture related; it's me on a grave.

The whole reason why I don't appreciate people in cemeteries when they're not there to respect the dead is because the people around here who go into cemeteries for other reasons are up to no good. I live in a small town so generally people know what other people are up to frequently. Word travels fast.

Each time I visit my grandmother's grave I like to leave her little keepsakes next to her headstone that I know she'd like. It's really more for my peace of mind than anyone else's. I left her a little jade elephant once because she loved elephants, and bunny statues I picked up from a dollar store. Pic related. Each time I come back, however, the little things I had left for my grandmother had disappeared, including the little jade elephant. I had to stop putting things down for my grandmother (except for the candles because evidently they wouldn't steal these) because they wouldn't stop taking them. It's a disrespect.
It's our plot of land in the cemetery that we paid for, our spirits reside there. We have some rights about what goes on there. It would be like living in your house and some strangers coming along and taking your things that you may not "notice" on an everyday basis and have an excuse like "well you never used it and it's not like you need it." You'd still be pissed.

Every now and then on my FB or around town I'll hear these little emo and Hot Topic gawth kids brag and boast about how they're so KEWL going into the "graveyard" and dicking around. And it makes me rage 10/10 never knowing if they're the same stupid brats who were taking my mementos for my grandmother. I wouldn't care as much if they were just there taking a few tasteful pictures of things, but I know they're there just to dick around and do drugs.

I sound like an old biddy when I say this, but some of you really are hoodlums!

>>5007004
You're filth.

>>5007999
You have absolutely no shame. How many men have you slept with?

>>5008031
More than you

Who would care? You bet I would care if some attention whore would sit down on my grave, taking pictures of herself. I would haunt the shit out of her.
- koff >>5007999 koff-

>>5007977
>>5007999
I love you.

>>5007999
What the fuck lady...

Try to find old grave yards no one uses any more like civil war grave yards. It will probably look better too.

Can I do it at like my Grandpa's grave or someone I knew who wouldn't give a shit? Cause I KNOW my Grandpa wouldn't give a fuck. Hell he didn't even really want a funeral, we decided to have a very small one anyway and he wasn't even there.

Lol. Every Memorial Day my mom, grandpa, and I go to visit grandma's grave, and grandpa insists on taking pictures of her grave, of us around her grave, even sitting on it. Then this year, as we slowly helped him on his way out of the small country graveyard, he saw a particulaly interesting tombstone (it had a particularly old date) and had us photograph him with it.

Now in his defense he is old and pretty obsessive with taking pictures in general (we frequently ask him stuff like,"Why did you take a picture of THIS?!")

Anyway, as long as people don't deface or smash the graves, I don't see any problem with taking a picture in a graveyard. Take OPs pic as an example; all she is doing is standing there, touching it.

I understand that opinions will inevitably be different from mine, however.

Graveyards are supposed to be the one place in the world where you wouldn't expect some cumdumpster femanon to be attention whoring.

Fuck off.

>>5008107
Actually, I'd imagine a Gay Bar to be a less likely place for that.


Here's my take on it; take a picture where ever you want but MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD PICTURE! Dear fucking Christ that is the worst Faust I have ever seen. I'm not being a skinny elitist, but it's one of his defining characteristics and it's largely absent here. And it's not very spooky looking graveyard. It's all new and clean and there's a fucking car in the background that ruins any illusion of creepiness. There's nothing really contrasting about the picture, it's just a badly composed, badly framed piece of shit picture. It's not even Photoshopped for contrast or cropping.

See my pic? That's Highgate Cemetery in England. THAT'S the type of graveyard you should go for good pictures. Dead or not, people will like a pleasing picture even if it's taken in a graveyard.

>>5007999
Anyone that does this is a total moron and when they get hurt, they only have themselves to blame.

My grandmother has worked for a funeral home since my mother was little and when I was little, I went out to the cemeteries with her to take gravestone rubbings and stuff to copy designs from the headstones so replacements could be made. Well, the one we were in was old, Civil War era, and I was a stupid little kid and decided to climb onto one of the smaller headstones and edge my way around the platform while clinging to the headstone so I wouldn't fall.

Gravity and a several hundred pounds worth of stone are not your friend. I ended up being sandwiched between a slab of rock below me that covered the burial plot and the headstone on my chest, pinning me while my grandmother ran for help. Ended up cutting open my hand on the chipped corner (still have the scar) and having to go to the hospital to make sure I hadn't broken any ribs. Even now I still have aches and problems with my hips/back from it.

If you mess around on old tombstones, there is a pretty good risk of you getting hurt. If you're even remotely stupid enough to lay on top of hundreds of years old tomb like that, there is a chance that it will break under your weight and send you falling right on top of a coffin/body.

If you're going to go into a graveyard for pictures or anything else, don't be stupid enough to look at obviously old and unstable monuments and think "You know, I think I'll add another 100+ pounds to something that's already falling apart!"

>>5008790
Or maybe people shouldn't be sitting on someone else's tombstone AT ALL. I don't care how old it is, even if it's new, it's not an edgy or cool thing to do.

>>5007999 looks like a stupid cunt.

Cemeteries are for the living. I don't think the dead really care. So have a respect for the living that are still coming to the cemetery.

I think finding an abandoned, no longer used one is ok as long as you are respectful.

First off, and this has nothing to do with my own opinion, but why exactly do you all find it disrespectful? I'm curious as to what /cgl/ things of these spiritual/physical/moral matters.

>>5009365
>it's not their property!
>if they cause damage to the grave site, someone else will have to pay for the damage
>people generally have a stigma about people goofing off in places of peace and reflection
>someone could get hurt climbing/sitting on/scaling old tombs and headstones
>if other people are religious and believe the deceased live on in a spiritual sense, they look at disrespectful actions performed in cemeteries as ruthless and an insult against their loved ones

Why do none of you have any consideration about that?

can this be good graveyard photos now?

>>5009406

please. i'm so fucking tired of people getting their panties in a wad about this. they're graveyards. if you're going to be disrespectful, don't go there. if you're going to be respectful, who gives a shit what you do while in the graveyard? i've gone to them myself, just to enjoy the view of the town i used to live in.

I'm totally ok with Cemetery photographs as long as
a) If there are people even in the photo, they're not in cosplay, and are dressed respectfully
b) You're doing it for the art, not you

It's so over done though. I mean how many Death Note/Kingdom Hearts/Wolf's Rain/Naruto/Every fucking over done cosplay ever pictures have we seen in graveyards? How many have you seen that were actually good and not stupid or cheesy? How many have you seen that weren't done in a stupid Photobooth filter like Black and White grain or sepia?

It gets really old, really fast.

>>5009388
Pretty much these.

>if they cause damage to the grave site, someone else will have to pay for the damage.

This actually happened recently. We don't know if somebody actually damaged it or not, but my grandma was cremated and placed in the wall style mausoleum next to her husband about four years ago. Somehow, her's was damaged. Thankfully, the cemetery quickly repaired the damages and didn't charge us for it.

But all things considered, some people may not be as lucky and may have to pay out of pocket to get damages fixed to their loved ones grave.

I have no problem if you want to take photos in a cemetery. Just have a little common sense and at least show a little decency. I imagine some photos would look amazing. Like a Big boss saluting at a grave.

Or hell, if you want to re-enact a scene of somebody visiting a grave site, it'd be nice if you'd leave them some flowers or something. Just as a sign of respect(not to mention if they have any living relatives, they'd probably appreciate the gesture.)

>>5009388
This.

Jesus, it's like none of you have respect for other people! If I were in my families plot site, and I saw some idiotic cosplayers climbing on top of my grandmother's grave stone or posing in some dramatic way over my Uncle's marker, I'd cut a bitch.

Seriously, it's not about the dead. It's about the living people who don't want your frilly asses posing all over our deceased family.

>>5009388

Seriously, this.

>>5009406

Hold the fucking happy bus. Is that pre-op Yaya Han? I haven't ever seen pictures of her from before she got airbag titties and a "SURPRISE!" plastic face.

>>5006985
lol is your name GRAPES??

because you seem a bit JELLY!!!

rolfl ^__^

>>5009578
...
Don't know if troll or completely missing the point...

>>5009458
No, it's about the fact that people need to get over themselves/their loved ones and stop getting stressed out about things that you can't do shit about and shouldn't waste time on. If it is disrespectful then you have every right to be pissed, but getting offended over someone's mere presence within the vicinity of your loved one's grave? Seriously what the fuck?

>>5009626
You are an asshole.

I go to my sister's grave (she died two years ago) whenever I'm upset and just sit there. Her grave is in a family plot that is gated off.

A little under a year after she died, I went to visit her grave and there was an awful group of cosplayers laying all over her grave and straddling her headstone and one was standing with a leg wrapped around my grandparents' monument.

They were so fucking rude, I could not believe it. The girl straddling my sister's headstone was just laughing and swinging her legs and telling me to "chill bro."

The guy doing their photos, I think it was one of their parents, was just stuttering an apology. I screamed at the stupid bitch that my sister hadn't even been dead a year. She just laughed and I shoved her off the head stone. She fell back and smashed her head on the little pavers that went around the plots and bled all over her shitty little costume.

They ended up slinking off after I called the police (they got arrested for trespassing and criminal mischief). Unless you have a loved one in a private cemetery, it is trespassing to go into one.

tldr; you never know how fresh someone's loss is or when they are going to show up. I honestly think I would have killed them if it had been closer to my sister's death.

>>5009626

I hope all of your family dies in a horrible way, very soon. Then, I hope you come across someone giggling and sprawling lewdly all over their graves.

I see nothing wrong with taking photos in a graveyard as long as you arent disrespecting the monuments (i.e. sitting/climbing/leaning on them, making insulting gestures, etc.)
I have seen many photos that are taken in a cemetery setting that are very beautiful/creepy/pleasing to look at
but then i have also seen some that pissed me off.
its really all about the people being respectful and remembering that there are people's dead loved ones there.
I also feel that if visible in photos, names of the dead should be edited out.

>>5009735
totally made up story, you'd have been arrested on assault charges.

>>5009806
Nope. They were trespassing on my family's private property. Welcome to Texas.

Oh, look, it's THIS thread again.
We have this same thread every 2-3 months.
I used to try to argue my position on this, but what's the point?
You've all formed an opinion. You've all stated your opinion and argued about it in a million other threads.
Fuck, at least the PT obsessives wait to make a new post until she does something else they can create wank about.

>>5009735
You sound like someone who has issues letting go. I don't think I've ever been to either of my parents graves since their funerals.

If you scattered the ashes of [insert someone you care about] at, say, a particularly pretty beach and saw a bunch of cosplayers doing a photoshoot there, would you still be mad?

I would only take photos of long-dead people, in order to not disrespect any living relatives.

I get mad at graveyard visitors because there are scrappers going through where my grandfather is buried, and stealing any metal they can get their hands on.

So I tried searching for good graveyard cosplay photos that aren't disrespectful and are decent photos. Holy hell did I ever not find anything on cosplay.com or DA (at least not tagged with "graveyard")
There has got to be some other people do grave yard photos right. I could see a really tasteful shoot with Emily from the corpse bride being done well.

>>5009816

Why didn't you shoot them?

>>5009841
No because it's not the same thing.

It's not about not letting go, it's about having a place to go to so you can pay respects if that's how you chose to respect the day.

Everyone has they're one way of doing things, and everyone needs to respect that. If I don't want you lewdly posing on my grandparents grave stones (which is private property), then I have the right to get pissed and tell you to fuck off.

One of my hobbies for awhile was taking photos in old buildings and stuff, there are some cool graveyards in my area.

Guidelines for how not to be a douche when taking photos in a cemetery:

1) Some people are just very obsessed with this and will think it's disrespectful no matter what you do. Accept this and move on to step 2.

2) Older graves, where people are less likely to have living relatives, are better. No one wants to go to leave flowers for a family member and see some guy dressed as sephiroth draped over the stone shirtless.

3) Try to avoid touching older, weathered stones with your hands and never step on a stone or put your weight on it. If you want a photo of yourself sitting, many family plots have benches and stuff. You could damage the stone accidentally. If you want to make a rubbing of a stone, try to get permission from someone like a caretaker or the people in the main office first. They can help give you guidelines on how to tell if a stone is delicate and shouldn't be messed with.

4) Do not mess with candles, flowers, toys, etc. that are left on stones by other people. If you want to leave something for a deceased person such as a celebrity or historical figure, check and see what the rules are beforehand.

5) The police generally frown on people being in graveyards after 10pm or so. Obey curfews and posted closing times.

6) Golden rule applies. Treat other's tombs as you'd want yours or a close family member's to be treated.

7) If possible, leave the place nicer than you find it. If you see garbage or something around, clean it up, etc.

>>5008004
Actually, the caretakers and grave groomers sometimes move small items if they get blown around or knocked over and they can no longer tell where they belong, or if they start to get moldy or messed up looking.

It could still be some emo or wannabe occultist stealing your stuff, but if it's something that could mold or something easily from being left outside for a long time in all types of weather, it might have been someone trying to keep her grave neat.

I don't know what kind of keepsakes you leave there, so YMMV.

I think a lot of the hostility about this kind of thing has to do with selfishness. Some of us just need to learn that there's probably nobody outside of your immediate family that will give a fuck if a family member passed away. People will tell you they're sorry for your loss and will probably never think twice about it. Learn to deal with the fact that cosplayers (who are usually late teens, early adult years) have the same mentality, and until it happens to them, they can't relate and will probably not care if they're disrespecting a grave. That, and they probably think they're not doing anything wrong.

Sorry if that made zero sense.

>>5008004
Perhaps you should check with the caretakers of the cemetary. At the cemetary that my grandfather and uncles are buried in, all flowers and objects left on the graves are collected and disposed of every Tuesday, before they mow the lawns.