Circle lenses look like ugly creepy shit on everyone.

I don't want to do Korean kareoke with you weebs, I'd rather stick knitting needles in my ears than listen to your horrible nasal voice screech along to k-pop.

The feedback system is bullshit.

>>4881249

Elaborate?

I just don't think livejournal should be used for selling at all. I wish there was an actual auction/sales website just for lolita.

I am really sick of tumblr drama. The last few times I logged on, the whole front page of my dash was ALL petty drama. The only reason I have a tumblr is to look at pretty pictures! I don't care about immature bullshit.

I would use that tumblr savior extension to block it, except that most of these people don't tag their crap so there's no way that I know of for me to filter it out. So I unfollowed all the dramatic people today and now my dash is so pretty.

DAT SIDE SEAM. seriously baby, would it have killed you to put a little extra thought at LEAST into the skirt portion? one or two extra inches of fabric and it wouldn't look like assbutt. this is why i need Queen's Derpy Coach; so i can make my own version where the side seams don't look like ass. i really hope it wasn't like this on the ones they actually sold, but then again; why wouldn't they have a pic of those up?

I love to make those little polymer clay food charms. their so much fun to make and their cute.
the only problem is EVERYONE and their mother makes them. id like to sell mine but really the world doesn't need more polymer clay shit :/

>>4881274
I hear so many people say this. If you want a new system that bad, why not go ahead and make it?

>>4881441
My friend makes those and she can't justify selling them either. She just pawns them off on us as "YAY SO GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN" gifts every time we get together.
I know that it's because she doesn't know what to do with the charms, but I still think it's nice of her, and I do like them.

I shipped a skirt to NY 2 weeks ago by USPS priority mail, and she hasn't received it yet. I'm from Texas and I didn't get tracking or anything because none of my parcels have ever been lost. Should I wait a little longer or just go ahead and refund her?

>>4881414
This makes me rage SO HARD. I've owned tons of Baby and AATP prints and THEY NEVER MATCH UP THE GODDAMN PRINT AT THE SEAMS. Come on, Baby. I'm paying $350+ for your dresses, at least pretend to give a shit.

>>4881454
I'd call the post office first. They may be able to locate the package for you!

fat lolitas. no gonna lie. i can't stand fat lolitas. don't stand non-loli fat people either. i'm not gonna say anything to them or act mean towards them cause i don't want to hurt their feelings, but inside my mind i yell at them to get healthy and loose weight and put the cake down. even when they pick on me for being thinner i can't say anything back cause in the end i'm a healthy weight and they are unhealthy and it's bad enough being fat. BUT GOD I HATE THEM

>>4881448
Some people have tried. It always tanks.

>>4881491
I have no problem with fat people. They may or may not be healthy, and it's none of my business.

That said, I hate fat people who put down skinny people. At a meet, a girl I'd only just met started railing at me and accusing me of being anorexic, because if I ate like a REAL WOMAN there was no way I could fit into burando. I'm not anorexic, I just have IBS, but by that point I was too mortified to say anything.

>>4881500
Exactly, LJ is free for the most part but a separate new site will cost money and how many people are actually going to pay to keep it going? They will just go back to free LJ.

>>4881500
Case in point. There's all of three threads on the board, all of them from June. People moan and bitch, but the actual process of moving is way too much trouble to actually bother.

http://eglcommsales.proboards.com/index.cgi

>>4881491
so do you dislike black people because they have more melatonin than you?

>>4881459
for real. it takes no effort, and i would love them forever if they gave a shit. it looks like they started to give a shit on one side of this jsk, but the other side...? and that to me, looks even worse. at least the side seam can be hidden and won't be the most photographed!

>>4881510

this. I'm just skinny because I'm skinny. it's a combination of what I eat and genetics. just like fat people, except I got fucking lucky.

>>4881510
i'm fat and i hate fat people who do that. i also hate skinny people ragging on me about how fat i am. it's my life and if i have a heart attack tomorrow, no big loss. haha pun.

>>4881530
Exactly. Ugh, fucking Baby. I hate their shitty customer service and their stupid non-matching side seams, but even more I hate the fact that I still buy from them.

>>4881510

A girl I know always says shit like "I wish I could fit your dress. BUT I'M TOO FAT."

And it's like.....what do you want me to say, exactly?

>>4881534
>>4881537
Exactly. My weight is not your business, no matter what it is.

>>4881540
Just don't say anything. They're most likely venting. I used to say stuff like that too when I was chubby and it was just me letting off a little steam full of self-frustration. I never expected anyone to say anything, I think when i said things like that, it was mostly just talking to myself.

>>4881540
One of my really good friends does that constantly... I don't know how to respond, either.

>>4881552
It's still kind of awkward, though. Especially when someone's directly addressing you.

>>4881510
dude, as a fat lolita, i'm sorry this happened. i used to have this childish and defensive mindset (I'M A REAL WOMAN AND HAVE CUUURVES, SKINNY BITCHES ARE ALL ANOREXIC, BLAH BLAH) and now i'm embarrassed by it when i see it from others.

>>4881414
I have that problem with every single brand that I've bought from and I've bought from all major brands.
Can't they design the print somehow so that the print will match up?

>>4881540
Yeeeah. I've had that happen before, too. It's insanely awkward.

>>4881527

that's just silly. i don't hate black people. i hate fat lolis who pick on skinny lolis, that said i hate people who pick on other people for any reason. for some reason though fat lolis pick on me a lot. i'm 5"2 and weigh 125 lbs which is healthy, yet fat lolis attack me with "you're anorexic". anyways, it's people who attack people in general. i hate them but don't say anything because it hurts to get picked on. don't pull random racial things into it cause it has nothing to do with it. it's about attitude. i guess it was my mistake, i should have said "i hate fat lolis who pick on thinner lolis"

well if they add a few more inches so the print matches up, then we have to hear you all bitch and moan that the dresses are getting ~too big~ now.

>>4881454
You should wait longer and call the post office to harass them. I shipped a package to NY once and I thought it got lost in the mail for 6 months. Turns out it was sitting in the post office mail room the whole time because they forgot to ship it back to me after they couldn't deliver it.

People that think whenever there's a young lolita new to their comm, she's automatically going to be ita. Not everyone had to start out as bad as you did, and some girls that I know that are younger are even more mature and not into the stupid bs that the older girls get into.

>>4881559
it's like they don't want to shell out and get a little extra fabric for their actual production pieces, and instead just cut to use up the fabric with as little scrap as possible. that's my theory anyway.

>>4881574
to the skirt, no. they could just give it a slightly tighter gather. on the top tailored parts, it would just require looking at where the seams will fall and plotting out their patterns accordingly. a little bit extra work, but it's worth it. i do it with the stuff i wear, and it looks nice.
>>4881573
yeah you should have specified, because without that little backpedal there, you sounded like a judgmental cunt.

I hate that my local community is made up almost entirely of horrible failures. 80% of them can't coordinate for shit and are embarrassingly awful at social interaction. The 20% that are nice and can put together a good outfit are scared away by the socially retarded weebs in hideous bedsheet dresses. None of the worthwhile people show up any more.

I was shopping dressed up the other day and was approached by a girl who complimented my outfit and talked to me about AP for a while, she said she wore lolita, I asked why I hadn't seen her at a meet up and she gave a non-answer about being busy. I knew exactly what she was thinking, though. Our community is shit and she's embarrassed to be seen with them.

I keep going to meets just in case a well-dressed, sweet girl shows up so that I can show her that we all aren't entirely failboats.

>>4881574
sadly all the dresses are too big now :(

>>4881573
Okay, now that you've given it some context that makes sense. I'm sorry that people are such assholes, because you're definitely in the healthy range for your height!

>>4881574
They would just have to lay out the pieces differently, there's no need to add fabric.

>>4881573
I'm 5'3 and 103 lbs. I hope fat lolis won't pick on me o.o

>>4881636
I know right? Now even VM and MM's clothes are too big for me and I'm swimming in AP as well. It's comfortable but it looks like I'm wearing a potato sack on the top.

>>4881652
yes all fat lolitas will pick on you. *rolls eyes*

>>4881646
but i'm saying that maybe that's why? like they only print so much and go 'fuck it, we only have this much and have to make this many dresses' and that's why the seams are never clean.

>>4881653
MTE. I tried on a friend's Chess Chocolate JSK and it was gaping everywhere. I miss old brand sizing :(

>>4881659
I'm sure they do it to cut costs. It uses less material (even if you're cutting the same sized pattern pieces) when you don't match up the pattern and lay it out in whatever way you can. But I, for one, would happily pay the extra $20-$30 they'd charge for that service.

>>4881663
I think it would be nice if the clothes had quarter shirring and the minimum size starts small because it'll fit us and bigger people. I buy mostly from MM and it annoys me because they usually don't have shirring and I hate the way it looks when I do the back lacing on non-shirred bodices.

>>4881573
5"2' and they call you anorexic? That's not even skinny, just healthy. I hate those crazy fat batshit insane lolis too.

this >>4881574 reminded me of wanting to ask this question, which brand has the smallest sizes? i don't care if it's the big name ones or indie.

The girl who organizes a lot of meets in the comm in my city is nice, but she's a total space case. She's one of those "lifestyle lolitas" who don't even own any actual lolita clothes. She goes to photoshoot meets in jeans because the dress code is "casual". Almost all her meets at held at shitty chain restaurants and Barnes and Noble - and we live in one of the largest cities in the US, not Bumfuck Town, Nowheresville!

She has to list every minute detail of the meets and always does it in this fake "fancy" tone - "They carry the classic assorted beverage flavors for your drinking pleasure, including Sprite, Dr Pepper, Coke, Diet Coke, Orange Fanta...." Okay, we get it! We know what drinks Subway serves! So unnecessary!

>>4881709
Hmmm.... well for JetJ their size one is 88cm bust and 68cm waist, and skirt is only 65cm, which is great for girls with tiny waists. MM is also 88 or 86/68 I believe. VM is around the same though some run slightly larger at 90/70. AP and Baby's standard non-shirred stuff is usually 90 or 88/70. AatP has some pretty weird tailoring at times... some of their measurements don't really match up to what is given on the website. I had this boned dress that was like 82/64 even though the website said it was 88/70.
IW's non-shirred stuff is also rather petite, around 86-88/68-70. There are also other classic indie brands like Excentrique and Millefleurs.

>>4881663
Japanese people are getting fatter. Cry more.

>>4881728
those brands are too big for me. my bust is 78 cm and waist is 55 cm. i will look into excentrique and millefleurs. thank you for the information.

>>4881709
Also, I have the dress in your image. It's VM's classical doll and it's about 90/70. VM recommends their clothing for girls with 82/62 but I personally that's waaay too much ease, even with waist ties. I think the perfect bust and waist sizes for standard classic size (88/68) is 85/65, provided you are short and the distance between your bust and waist is appropriate.

>>4881748
>78 cm and waist is 55 cm
Damn, then I would highly recommend buying size small or custom sized items from Taobao.

Fucking blouses not fitting on my broad shoulders. If they do fit over my shoulders, the sleeves run up past my wrists. I also have this problem with clothing in the US. It feels like I'm the Hulk when he's about to rip his shirt off. And I feel like getting angry like the Hulk whenever I go Lolita/winter coat shopping. Every damn year my wrists freeze due to the sleeves of my loli jacket are up on my forearms. I'll go up a size and it looks like shit. I just want to be able to go to a store and get a jacket and GTFO. I'm tired of having to spend more money on getting it tailored to fit me. End of rant.

>>4881764
it's funny because i'm the biggest one in my family too. i will look into taobao but i'm a bit sad that i can't buy something from victorian maiden because it would be too big for me. maybe i will get it tailored to fit better. i wish some of these brands would offer smaller sizes as an option.

>>4881781
I don't know if you like Juliette et Justine but sometimes they offer custom sizing. If you see a dress you like there, you can try asking them if they can tailor it to your measurements. I think JetJ is the only brand that does any sort of customization so no luck with VM.

I hope it doesn't come off rude but I've never heard of people being that much smaller than brand sizes. It is a bit mindblowing. Good luck with your search for a dress that fits!

>>4881781
There aren't enough people to make it worthwhile. They would do better if they made larger sizes for girls who aren't flat-chested with short torsos and the body shape of a plank of wood, but they haven't done that so

There's Shirley Temple?

Chinese people are smaller anyway so getting tiny sizes would be easier

>>4881781
Wow... guessing you're from an Asian family eh?
I do have this older VM blouse that fits really tight on me (84 bust 66 waist... for blouses usually 5+cm of ease is recommended) and it's an older piece so you never know.
That really sucks bro. And tailoring fee is pretty expensive these days... best of luck!

>>4881797
i do like juliette et justine! their clothes appear to be very decadent. thank you for telling me about this.

>>4881803
i understand. i forgot about shirley temple and only looked at emily temple cute. is there online shop for shirley temple? i cannot find it -.-

>>4881809
yes i am. tailoring is expensive and i am scared they might ruin the dress. i had to take my prom dress to get tailored and they ruined it and it look very funny on me.

I HATE IT WHEN EFAMOUS LOLITAS DON'T RESPOND TO MY COMMENTS.

WHAT I HATE MORE ARE PEOPLE ON D_L WHO POST AND NEVER RESPOND TO THEIR COMMENTS.
I MAD.

>>4881838
http://shop.shirleytemple.co.jp/

>>4881709
I feel your pain, anon. I'm 78-53. Personally, I find that MM, JetJ, IW, and VM run extremely big in terms of dresses, though IW's S size is perfect for blouses. Millefleurs can be hit or miss. Old (Pre-2007) Baby and AP, and pre-2005 Meta tend to fit the best. Stay away from skirts released post-2008. They will probably fall down. If you like current pieces, shoot for those with quarter back shirring and back lacing from Baby and AP. And just stay away from Meta, it's not going to fit.

I also find that many Taobao brands offer a Small size that fits me perfectly. I've ordered from Dear Celine and Rose Melody and gotten great results, but the majority of the brands on there do offer it.

And if you see something you really want that seems too big, use a push-up bra. Shit works wonders.

>>4881838
Oh, and Shirley Temple's 150 size is fantastic, provided you're under 5'6"ish. They don't have an online shop so you have to keep an eye out for it on mBok, Closet Child, and Y!J. I would stay away from the 160 size, as well as ETC and Jane Marple, because it tends to average 35"-27"

>>4881852

I try to respond to comments, but saying "Thanks!" to every "cute :)" comment just feels sort of fake and I know people will accuse me of trying to up my comment count.

>>4881876
Eh, I don't see that as trying to up your comment count. If someone came up to you in real life and complimented you, you'd thank them. Why change just because you're online?

I only suspect someone of padding their comment count when they try to turn a one-word comment into a conversation.

My problem is the difference between ribcage/underbust and bust, there's an 8" difference. I look so stupid in most brand. Either my tits look droopy, or makes it seem like I have no tits (just a huge waist). Waist ties/waist corsetting works okay but there's still the factor of it riding up.
I also have a small tumor (lipoma) on my shin. I may be the only one looking hard enough to notice, but it skews the print on my socks a little bit.
It would be cool if brands released an option for smaller/larger girls, but do they have enough interest in their countries for it?

>>4881897
Clearly there's a demand on both ends. If you go on Mixi or 2chan there are lolitas bitching night and day about brands' larger sizes, but there is also enough demand from the larger customer base to warrant the creation of a larger size.

I doubt they'll do it, though. It makes them seem more exclusive and desirable if every girl on the street can't wear a lolita item.

>>4881617
I know that feel and I go to meet-ups for the same exact reason.

>>4881912
Ahh, I guess we truly are part of a secret club of snowflakes.
You said they are complaining about the larger sizes, so by the larger customer base (no pun intended I'm guessing) do you mean the international community?
Seeing as their international customer service isn't all that good, I'm not sure how much they'll listen.

>>4881912
Where do the lolita conversations on 2chan take place? I always want to read what they're talking about but can't seem to navigate it worth shit

>>4881715
uuugh i hate meets where it wasn't planned beyond "meet and eat at mcdonald's, go to nearest chain bookstore to read manga". i loved the meetups we've done where we've gone to a tea shop or to the local 'living in history times!' site, it's more elegant instead of weird?

also? people who bitch about meetup costs. yes, gas is expensive and you can't always carpool, but you're notified of meetups usually a few weeks in advance, at least set aside a little budget! you're spending $200 on dresses and shit, are you just going to sit in your room wearing them or do you want to show them off?

>>4881441
>>4881449

This. This a million.
I love to make them and I'm good at it, and I want to make money off them, but I feel like if I tried to sell them I'd never make a single sale.
And besides, I may be good, but anyone can make them.
So I just make them as gifts for everyone I know.

>>4881961
Fucking this. I plan all the meetups in my local community and every time someone bitches about the cost and accuses me of being spoiled and bratty and not knowing the value of a dollar. Sorry that you couldn't save up $20 bucks for tea and arrange transportation to the tearoom when I announced everything two months in advance, bitch.

>>4881952
No, proportionally speaking there are a lot of girls who are on the larger end of the Japanese size spectrum who are into lolita. They're the ones who are driving demand for bigger sizes, not the average-sized Western girls. We're not the majority of the brands' market and they really couldn't give fewer shits about our demands. They're primarily focused on their Japanese customers.

>>4881524

The only way people would move to a forum would be if someone shut down egl comm sales

And I don't think they will.

forums are shitty and no better than lj, honestly. it would be a waste of everybody's time to move.

A girl today told me to pronounce lolita as "low-let-tah".

>>4881663
I think Chess Choco ran larger than most, too. I've had a few of my friends try mine on and it's a lot bigger than some of my other dresses.

>>4882004
I've heard that most Japanese lolitas are actually bigger than most girls, but I don't know how true that actually is.

>>4882146
The starting bust measurement was over 90 and AP is usually mid to upper 80s so it was bigger

Average Japanese size is a Japanese 9, and that is what size lolita clothes are made in for the most part

>>4882146
Lolita is made for, on average, a Japanese size 9, and 9 is on the high end of the Japanese size spectrum. The average Japanese lolita is somewhat chubbier than the average Japanese girl, though she'd be normal by Western standards.

>>4882183
9 is an M size and is average. 11-13 is big.

>>4882101

\lō-ˈlē-tə\

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lolita

There's a soundbyte at that link.

>>4882212
Thanks. I'll hold her nose in it.

>>4882146
I go to Japan a lot and this is what I'll say about the subject.

As a fashion, yes lolita is on the higher end of things. And women in the Japanese metropolitan areas are usually smaller than outside. If you left Tokyo or any other metro area you'd notice women who are somewhat bigger. A couple of years ago Japanese womens height and weight average was about 5'3" and about 113lbs.

Right now Japanese women are noticing there's a change overall a general shift in their gender as they're noticing their hips,waist and bust have been getting bigger over the years; and not due to weight gain but actually in their body structure.

The increase in sizes is to 1. accommodate the growing obese population (generally waist measurement is 35") and 2. to accommodate the general shift in size that's been happening through out the years.

>>4882205
Yeah I'd have to agree that average lolita brand sizes run pretty similar to the Japanese national averages. They might be slightly bigger than the average teen sizes but it's better for them to err on the slightly big side since more girls can wear them. Many gal or fashiony brands run very tiny since they want to have a certain exclusive image.

>>4882212
>Pronunced it lol-it-a at one poit
>Feels really dumb now

>>4882205
Baby's M and AP's non-shirred items hasn't been a size 9 for ages.

>>4882242
Hey man, it's not nearly as bad as 'lolly-tah'.

>>4881891
Idk, I enjoy when I comment on someone's d_l post and a conversation gets started, because then I actually end up getting to talk to the person instead of that generic exchange of "cute coordinate!" and "thank you!" that happens 90% of the time. It's not inflating your comment count, its being personable.

>>4882245
Or people who says "lolita" but instead of "loli" they say "lolly".

COME ON NOW! YOU HAD IT RIGHT AT FIRST. One. syllable. less.


captcha: loblolly overdscr
..Odd!

>>4882251
Oh fuck this! My best friend does this all the fucking time. She usually says 'lolly girls' but then sometimes she'll say 'lolita', but normally. It drives me batshit. And I don't wanna be a prick and correct her, so I just hope she'll pick it up from me. Since she's only vaguely into the fashion, I try not to let it bother me, but every time she says it, I swear I twitch for a second.

Argh. It's taking forever for my Taobao order to arrive and my SS hasn't contacted me for a few days. I'm a little worried because usually she's very prompt.

I've been waiting for over a month graaagh. Freaking Surface Spell Gothic.

Japanese M
Bust: 86cm
Waist: 63cm
Hips: 86cm

Japanese L
Bust: 90cm
Waist: 67cm
Hips: 90cm

Most unshirred Baby and Pirates OPs have a bust of around 90 and a waist of over 70. So it's probably XL or XXL size.

I feel you girls on brand being too big...I have a 76cm bust (and 61cm waist).

I wear mostly AP, because while its max sizes are bigger, its minimum sizes are also smaller. Look for things with lacing in the back, and skirts are great. Also, blouses and cutsews with more embellishment will often take away from the fact that it's too big.
Another great thing about being smaller is that there is a lot of lolita-friendly clothing in the kids section of stores!
Be wary of different cuts, though...
I recently bought the sun-dress-like Marchen Ribbon jsk, thinking it would be fine because it has lacing up the back...but my shoulders are too narrow to pull the straps far enough apart, so I get this weird gapping on the bust area. I love the jsk too much to sell it, so I'm just making it work...

I'm in the "the newer items are too big" camp.
More than half of my wardrobe is way too big on me, and I recently had to sell a new IW JSK that was hanging off me like a potato sack. It's a little disappointing since their old releases (dwarf story) are so much smaller and actually sometimes fit me.

Quite often OPs and blouses are also too big in the shoulders for me, despite being 5'10 :/

>>4882301
I didn't know that you were 5'10".

>>4882301
I've been curious, what are your measurements?

>>4882301
radiation poisoning sucks don't it?

>>4882330

>>4882301
ff same
i can't buy any new aatp items since they're all too big, the only one of my main brands producing new items that i can wear is Juliette et Justine :(

My heart bleeds for the poor girls who are just too small :'(

>>4881187
itaqueen, what is your measurements? aren't you super tall?

>>4881961
>>4881998

Seriously! If you can't set aside 15 dollars with a months notice, why are you in this fashion? If I'm gonna be driving more than 20 minutes I want it to be worth the trip. Shitty chain book store? Not even remotely worth it.

Lolita has made me curse my arms even more. I've always had a small waist, but my arms have always been big, so I feel really stupid buying blouses. I actually haven't bought a brand blouse yet (though my closet is about 75% at this point) because I fear that they will have tiny arm holes like the rest of the asian clothing I've bought...(and noone on the sales comm or online shops lists the arm measurements!) I hate making sure to buy a size bigger to take in EVERYTHING so my arms fit.

Does anyone know which brands (or specific blouses) run bigger in the arm?

>>4882536
Meta is the absolute worst for sleeves. I have a few of their blouses and I've noticed that they tend to leave extra fabric by the buttons on their short sleeved blouses so you can simply cut and re-sew the buttons a little further down, giving yourself more room in the upper arm. Surprisingly, AP tends to have more forgiving sleeve widths, even the non-stretchy sleeves are roomy.

>>4882536

I know that feel so hard. I have bigass shoulders so I always look like a dork with certain blouses.

>be 200 pounds
>lose weight so I can wear lolita brand dresses
>buy a pretty IW dress and hang it up on my door for motivation
>8 months later I'm 110 pounds
>Dress is too big on me
>Check brand websites and everything has measurements larger than mine

Fuck this gay world.

STOP SELLING THINGS I LIKE FOR REALLY REALLY CHEAP PRICES I AM TRYING TO SAVE MY MONEY AND THIS TEMPTATION IS GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH!

I have a slow metabolism and I'm trying to lose weight and reach 110 pounds so I can look my best in lolita! I'm at 139, I exercise and only eat 500-1000 calories a day, BUT I AM HAVING THE WORST TIME GETTING BELOW THIS NUMBER! It's annoying and depressing! I've lost 30 lbs so far, but I really, really want to lose 30 more. Also, I got all As my senior year and in 3 college level AP classes, but despite my hard efforts and earning 3 college credits, I wasn't able to start college this fall because my father put us in such financial strains I had to spend ALL of my college savings to pay our bills. Not only that, my mother is bitching at me CONSTANTLY when she has 3 uncurable diseases and I am the only one who lives with her and who TAKES CARE OF HER! YET SHE MAKES MY LIFE A LIVING HELL AND ACTS LIKE I HAVE NO RIGHT TO EVEN GET ONLINE, LET ALONE GO OUT, BUY EVEN A DOLLAR-TREE TREAT OR HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS! I need a job! I need a job to go to college and to buy new clothes because nearly none of my clothes fit me anymore! (I had to stuff my bras for a month because I couldn't spare 7 dollars to get a new one!) I still need to get my license too! GAHHH!!!! -screams, pulling out hair-

I really need a clove to smoke...

I hate my life.

>>4882874

I'd recommend that when you get to college, get a job, save up, and invest in a personal trainer or at least a professional consultation. Weight loss can be very nuanced, and may vary for everyone, so if you're hitting a plateau it might be good to get a an expert's help to get through it.

>>4882874
first off, congrats on the weight that you have lost and i'm sorry to hear about your troubles. but eating only 500 calories a day isn't healthy, girl! you should be eating at least 1000 to stay out of starvation mode. i know you're stressed and in a dire financial situation, but please take care of yourself health-wise!
also, i'm not sure how good it is anymore, but have you tried fastweb for scholarships? also, depending on your financial situation and your parents' income (if they make any), you may also be eligible for the pell grant, which you can check by filling out the FAFSA. don't give up!

>>4882874
If your parents are in a bad financial situation, you're probably eligible for financial aid through the government. I'd also second the anon who suggested Fastweb, they have a TON of scholarships.

As for the dieting, your body is probably going into starvation mode if you're eating <1000 calories a day. I think you'd see better results if you upped your intake to 1500+ calories and intensified your workouts (jogging instead of walking, etc.).

Dear local community bitchface:

Please, PLEASE stop telling me that I'm an anorexic cunt and that I need to eat more sandwiches just because I fit into Victorian Maiden and some other smaller brands and you don't. I know people who've been struggling with eating disorders. You're not only annoying me, but you're belittling the experience of anybody with an actual disorder. Some people are just naturally thinner or built naturally smaller. You wouldn't have my ribcage size even if you tightlaced... and that doesn't give you a right to be my body police.

>>4882308
Well now you know!

>>4882312
32-22-35/36

My waist used to be 20, but I don't think that's very healthy.

>>4881852
I hate when people comment expecting me to respond. Maybe it's because I hate when I comment and I get some lame "Thank you!" in my inbox. If all I said is "you look nice", or "I like your hair", I figure they just took the complement.

I know when I make my first d_l post I'm going to get a lot of "omg I love that dress I've been dieing to have it. You look great!!" and really, I don't need to respond to that.

I don't know why I thought joining in that "EGL" movie stream wouldn't drive me nuts. It was all right at first--watched Kamikaze Girls, seen it a million times so boring but hey. The next movie started and as soon as two girls who I had hoped and dreamed had finally left the community came in, it was absolutely irritating. Just constant XD LOL, XDDD GUILLOTINE, LOL DIS BITCH and I just... why? Maybe it's worse because I used to go to meets and they are equally as annoying IRL.

>>4883072
wow, you're bigger than i thought! i expected you to be at least 5 cm smaller than me because of how slim you look. i don't get why i still look so chubby. you look absolutely great so i hope you don't get slimmer since i know that the modeling world can be hard.

>>4883361
are you the one who wrote the secret about it?

>>4883363
About what?

>>4883362
How tall are you? Chokelate is pretty tall so measurements that look super tiny on her can look bigger on a girl who's a foot shorter. I don't believe you're chubby, though. Maybe skinnyfat (and I know that feel), but you're not chubby if you have a 22 inch waist. That's just crazy talk.

>>4883454
I wouldn't say that. I'm 5'6", two inches smaller than chokelate everywhere, and I still manage to look (legitimately) chubby.

>>4883483
There is no way you look 'chubby' with those mesurements. You sound like you have BDD.

>>4883509
shes been on /fit/ too long

>>4883483

No girl, you are not chubby, you are more than perfect, please don't think you're anything less than awesome.

>>4883362
For fashionweek I got down to 30-21-35 wich was not easy to achieve, I have wide hips that are naturally 36/37", and I would kill to have hips that are 2" smaller ;__;

Wa Lolita always looks like shit. I don't care who you are.

So I'm 5'6" and avoided otk socks because thye'd roll down easily. I recently started trying them out again and they don't seem to be rolling down so much. I'm starting to wonder, am I just caring less that they roll down a little, or did I lose some weight which is helping them stay up more? I've been between 130-140 for the last decade, but I don't keep a scale around to see what I am currently.

My question is, has anyone noticed otk socks staying up better after losing weight?

Not a gripe but we were talking about weight. To gripe though; I know there's at least 40 lolitas in my city and on lj, why is the average meet-up count six including +1s? We have a good community with no drama! The fuck!

>>4883806
Same problem with my community. We've got a good number of active members, but we're all spread out awkwardly and have such weird schedules that we don't often manage to get together more than three or four people at a time.

When there ARE meet-ups, it's often awkward for myself and a few of the other girls because the majority of the community that has free time for meet-ups is very young (14-17 years old kind of young) and we're post-college. At this point, I've given up on going to meet-ups and just hang out with the girls I had already been friends with to begin with. It's less painful, we have more in common and we don't get the third-degree from the moms that hang around to keep an eye on their precious, over-grown bundles of joy.

>>4883806
probably for the same reasons we rarely have more than 8 people at a meetup despite having at least 15 active members that i can think of immediately; time, money, distance. lolitas hate going far away because gas is money and it means getting up early (there's a girl in my local group who bitches if we try to schedule any meetups before 1pm in the afternoon. set your alarm and get over it!)

>>4883806
Maybe? I think it depends on a lot of factors, and even most of the thin lolitas I know have to use sock glue to keep theirs up.

>>4883820
This is exactly why I feel weird going to meetups sometimes. If it's at a fun place where we're doing some kind of activity, fine. If we're just going to dinner, I feel very odd sitting around with girls who are not my age and who I have little or nothing in common with.

I hate dumb feedback.

There was that one girl who got like neutral because the buyer cut the bloomers a little when unwrapping it. Said it wasn't packed carefully.

I had someone give me a 3 or 4 out of 5 for packaging because the item wasn't also wrapped in plastic. Sorry, but I'm not protecting the mail from being dropped in a puddle.

>>4883905

>I had someone give me a 3 or 4 out of 5 for packaging because the item wasn't also wrapped in plastic. Sorry, but I'm not protecting the mail from being dropped in a puddle.

What's your username so I know not to buy from you?

>>4883905
The first one's stupid.

Not wrapping items in plastic is kind of dumb, though. I just wrap them in shopping bags. They're free and it protects the item from dust and water.

I hate you short people. I want to be short.
Also, fuck my weight. I just got down to 10 stone at 5"6 ft. I still have to lose a stone.
I MISS CAKE DAMMIT!

i hate it when girls bring their boyfriends to meets cause it just reminds me i'm alone

>>4883955
>>4883999
Why would dust get in to the packaging? For water though, when does mail ever get in contact with water? Ever get wet letters? Does the mailman leave the box of mail in the rain? No, part of their job is to not let the mail get wet.

People shouldn't get marked off because of what might possibly happen.

>>4882365
I'm 32/23/34 and a bit under 5'6". I'm really not very tall.

Not gonna lie, it just bugs me when I see ravers and lolitas walking around a convention.. I don't know why. Maybe it is because I always cosplay...

I get annoyed when someone nitpicks about small dollar amounts. I understand trying to take off or add on $5 when the price is $80, but not $350. Especially when the $5 is for insurance, but hey, ship with no insurance and the package gets lost, I still get the money back because Paypal will side with the buyer.

>>4883768
+1 I have never ever seen wa-lolita look good and almost always it looks weeaboo and terrible

>>4884158
>I get annoyed when someone nitpicks about small dollar amounts.
>but I won't give you $1-$5 for insurance on my package!

Were you going for hypocrisy, orrrr?

The way I sell is: You pay for tracking or insurance, or you don't buy.

>>4884150
Ravers bother me more than lolitas, personally, because conventions are now hosting more lolita-related events. It used to be that they might have a two-hour tea party, hosted by local girls, and that was it. Now they have panels and guests related to the fashion, they have fashion shows run by indie brands and big names, they have shopping boutiques/booths with Japanese brands, and so on and so forth.

As for raves, most conventions have a dance party for one night and a "formal" dance the other night. And that's really it. If a convention were hosting Takuya Angel or Sisen or something, I could understand it a bit more.

>>4884190
We had already haggled $15 down, but she wanted to add $5 back for insurance on an already over-priced dress.

And yeah, I didn't buy because I thought it was getting ridiculous.

>>4884126

Yes but it's easily preventable if you just took 2 minutes of time to wrap the god damned dress in plastic wrap or put it in a plastic bag. Especially when someone is paying possibly hundreds of dollars for something that is susceptible to water damage.

And yes packages DO get wet if it's raining. It happens all the time, I can't count how many time I've received a soggy magazine or envelope, and even a few packages. It happens, and it's no ones fault but yours for not packing it properly.

I hate boyfriends at meets. No one is impressed with your disgusting neckbeard slob armcandy. They just sit off to the side and don't talk to anyone but you, why the fuck are they even here?

>>4884409
>not even neckbeards want to talk to me
thats all i gathered from your post anon

>>4881838
>tailoring is expensive
There are quite a few brands that will tailor their own garments to your measurements without any extra charge. JetJ has already been mentioned - you can give them your measurements and they will tailor their stuff to your measurements. Antique Beast also does this 5cms +/- . It is worth going through the websites of any brands you like, and go through their FAQ and sizing to see if they offer this option, some of them do!

>>4884409
Probably because their girlfriend dragged them along to begin with.

>>4884409
OMG you mean the meet up organizers did not consult you on the guestlist? *clutches pearls*
Newsflash: You don't like the people attending, stay at home. No one has to get your highness's permission about their plus ones, princess.

>>4884409
yeah more or less this. at least if he dresses up nicely and is clean, i don't mind much, but if it's some awkward hulking neckbeard sitting to the side in his ancient strappy hot topic pants and a three wolf moon shirt, i find it a little... weird. and it's not that i'm jelly, i have a great boyfriend, but i look as meetups as kind of a girls'* day out. (*not excluding the occasional kodona/brolita)

>>4884647

They come to the meet ups I organize. Unannounced.

>>4884667
I hate that.

There's a local woman who always calls 20 minutes before to ask if she can bring her husband and three-year-old son to meetups. No, you may not bring your ill-mannered child to an upscale tearoom, thanks for trying.

Regarding plus ones and neckbeards...
Lolitas need to learn how to put a proper event together. If you don't want plus ones or men who are not in the fashion, you need to explicitly state that and impose a dress code. You cannot organize a meet, leave invites open, and then grump about people's clothes or who they brought with them.

In most less than black-tie formal events, plus ones are welcome. If it's a pre-booked dinner or tea at a posh hotel, sure, people should ask before they bring a plus one. But if you just organize a picnic in the park or just go down a local museum, and it's not a closed mini-meet, most people assume it's ok to be accompanied by their significant others.

If you don't like this, put rules in place. You can say that plus ones have to be announced beforehand, or plus ones are not welcome at all, or that there is a dresscode for everyone, no exceptions. Just cause loli meets are a "girls' outing" to some, doesn't mean that this is obvious to everyone. In my local comm, plus ones are always welcoem for example, and we don't have a strict dresscode so many of them come in jeans and tees.

>>4884686
My pet peeve is when lolitas complain about this and it's an open event or a public space. Sure, I won't bring my bf for high tea, but I have heard lolis complain about bfs even in cons! Excuse me bitch, it's a convention! It's open to everyone, it's not your own personal meet :/

>>4881321
Mine has been like this too lately, wonder if we follow the same people lol

>>4884698
>>4881321
People bring up drama on tumblr? Wow I am so oblivious to that shit. I thought the whole point of tumblr was to post pretty pics and avoid discussions and drama and shit

>>4884686
>>4884675 here.
The problem is this: The two of us who plan meetups do impose rules. Typically we make the reservations or organize food, so we state explicitly in every planning post that all attendees need to RSVP at least two days before the meet. This shouldn't be an issue, since we try to plan meetups at least a month in advance. But this fucking woman continues to get butthurt when we tell her that she only RSVPed for herself, and so we can't allow her son or husband to tag along because we don't have food or space for them. That's why I have a stick up my ass about it.

>>4884686
I agree with all of this. One thing I think would just be implied is to not forcibly drag your boyfriend to a meet. If he doesn't want to come don't make him. Just go alone, people expect loners in these things.

>>4884686

One meet was a craft meet at my home, and the other was a restaurant in which I had to make reservations. I thought it went without saying that you should ASK before bringing an extra person, but I guess people are just stupid.

>>4884728
Are you me ;_; I am the other anon annoyed by unannounced guests and this woman wanted to bring her husband and son to a craft meet at my house and to a nice restaurant that required reservations.

>>4884675
even if this kid is a fucking angel and hardly makes a fuss, that's rude.

>>4884723
sooo many lolis i know can't/won't/don't drive so their +1 is usually their transportation

they also still live at home and are in culinary school indefinitely

>>4884796
The child is no angel. And she has an expectation that we will include him in our activities and entertain him. At the last local con, she stormed out in a hissy fit because she left the kid in the games room, unattended, and was shocked that the staff told him he couldn't be in there alone and that he needed to find his mother. She expects us to be some kind of babysitting service, in addition to expecting us to pay for her clothes and accessories.

>>4884826
I don't get this mentality of "I can't do it by myself" that so many lolitas have when it comes to going to a meet-up.

I'm fucking agoraphobic and afraid to leave the house all alone half of the time for stupid reasons (mostly, "what if I get sick" scenarios, occasional panic attacks, etc.). I've been medicated for my anxiety in the past, it was so severe at one point. I still learned to drive and I still go to meet-ups without a chaperone to guide me, in spite of these issues. And no one in the group, but my closest friends, knows about it.

In this day and age, there's no good reason not to be able to drive or know how to utilize your public transportation options. Forcing your boyfriend/girlfriend/sister/brother/cousin/neighbor/whatever to take you somewhere for an event they probably aren't even interested in is ridiculously selfish.

>>4884826
My boyfriend is my transportation to meets, but I just don't bring him along. He drives me there, and then he goes and does something else until it's time to pick me up. I don't understand why people can't do this.

>>4884826
I can/do/will drive, but it's such a pain in the ass when wearing lolita. So I sympathize with that much.

Usually I take my shoes, petticoats, rings/bracelets, and bows/bonnets off to drive but it's still pretty uncomfortable. Especially when wearing OPs that constrict arm movement.

>>4884859
>in addition to expecting us to pay for her clothes and accessories.

...

the NYC lolitas are children who "can't afford" a $6 salad and won't eat food at meetups, if they bother to show up at all.

>>4884876
You need to reconsider what you're wearing if you have to remove half your outfit to drive. Like really, bracelets? I only remove my right shoe if it's not a flat.

>>4884880
I believe I've already told this story here, but when we first met her she wanted to create a "club" and hold, I shit you not, bake sales to pay for dresses and accessories for "those who didn't yet have their first lolita pieces." I.e. her.

We all thought she'd kind of gotten over it, but several months later she started talking about how rich we all were to afford brand, and sort of awkwardly asking us to get her brand stuff for her birthday.

>>4884876
Protip: If your OP impedes your ability to do normal, non-strenuous activities like driving, it probably doesn't fit.

>>4884917
I remember that story. It still makes me cringe.

Buying brand name != rich by default

Some people just know how to budget and save, and even more people sell pieces once they've worn them a few times so that they can afford buy something new (thus, they have no more than two or three major pieces at a time).

>>4884907

If she wears the AP-style plastic bracelets that have parts that stick out, I can understand wanting to take them off. I could totally see myself breaking a $40 bracelet because I'm clumsy and focused on driving.

I live in Mexico, I there's not a single good looking lolita where I live, they all dress awful!! they're full of laces, ribbons and ita lolita stuff....

>>4884927
All the stories with that woman are just beyond cringe-worthy. She leaves me speechless with all the crap she pulls. And the worst part is that she's almost 30.

And really, none of us are rich or are given brand. We all either budget, like normal people, or else we take the other sane alternate route and routinely sell our lolita pieces in order to afford new ones. She still persists in practically begging for our things, though. She even went so far as to send me a PM saying that, since I had so much brand, I could surely afford to send her male friend (whom I had never met) a few pieces as a gift.

>>4884969
Goddamn. Is there any way you can cut her apart from the group with a minimum of drama? She sounds like a giant pain in the ass.

>>4884917
>>4884927
>>4884969
Who is this? Can we get more stories?

>>4884864
yeah, that's a much better solution. i understand not everyone has their own car, and sometimes conditions (like epilepsy, specifically), you CAN'T drive, but... come on. it's gotta be a little uncomfortable for them.

>>4884859
wow. mom of the year.

>>4884974
A friend of mine was a total bro and stepped up and told her to knock off her shit. Since then, she kind of got the message that she isn't really welcome and she's stopped coming.

>>4884977
I don't really want to say names since our local community is pretty small and it would be immediately obvious who I am. But for more stories see:
>>4884859
>>4884738
>>4884709
>>4884675
I have one or two more crazy ones and I will type them up in a minute. Mostly it's just stupid bullshittery.

>>4884980
Exactly. My boyfriend HATES lolita and I would just feel bad making him tag along. Even when I just have him drive me I buy him dinner or something to make up for it. It makes me cringe to see people bringing their clearly uncomfortable SOs along, like the SO is just a free ride and not a real person with feelings that they care about.

>>4884995
I agree. But also, I hate the assumption that everyone who is not into lolita is "forced" there. I see lolis say that all the time, that other lolis "drag" or "force" their bfs and sometimes their only basis for assuming coercion is that the other person doesn't wear the fashion.

If the bf looks bored out of his wits and doesn't wanna be there, I get it. But a lot of bfs are happy to tag along just to accompany their gfs there without necessarily caring about their fashion... it's not like every plus one is forced....

>>4885029
I am sure people assume that about my girfriend. She is not into lolita, but we go to cons together and I dress up. She is not as sociable as me and she likes taking the back seat. I can see how in the eyes of some people she would seem like she is bored, but she is just the kind of person who lays low and is quiet and just has a good time like that. In the last con I went, I was hanging out with the other lolis and she had gone off, found a quiet spot on the floor and was reading the manga she bought. A few of the lolis kept asking me if she is ok and why have I left her alone and why doesn't she come to hang out with us, but she was just quite happy doing her thing. I'd hate it if people assumed that I had dragged her there and then abandoned her or she was "bored out of her wits" or something. I wish people wouldn't make assumptions about relationship dynamics so easily...

>>4885029
Oh, that wasn't what I was trying to say! I've met many BFs or +1s (moms, sisters, boyfriends, whatever) who enjoy coming to meets. I was just talking about, as I said, the "clearly uncomfortable" SOs, friends, or relatives who look uncomfortable and downright sad to be there.

>>4885037
But I think there's a difference between that dynamic, where your girlfriend is happy to do her own thing independent of you, and a dynamic where a +1 is begging the lolita or cosplayer to leave the meet.

>>4884977
Okay, I lied, I guess I only have one other really batshit story about her. But I do have some other assorted crazies. First up, the big story:

We all go to a meetup at a local girl's house. While we're there, she's making her usual stupid comments ("I wish I had brand!" "You guys are so lucky!" etc.). Once we all sit down to dinner, though, things take a turn for the worse.

The girl (Let's call her S.) takes advantage of a lull in the conversation to ask if we'd all be interested in doing some kind of charitable activity together. We've known her for about two months at this point, and we are well aware of her crazy, so we answer kind of cautiously, saying that we might be interested but it depends on the day/event in question/time/etc.

She then launches into this huge, half-baked plan to host a local anime convention for charity. Her plan is to air a bunch of anime and have a Playstation or two, and charge people for the privilege of coming. We're all sort of noncommittal at this point because there are a TON of problems with her plan, but we kind of want her to shut up so we just say, "Oh, how nice," and leave it at that.

She keeps going, though, and eventually one of the other girls (Let's call her T.) asks S. what cause this anime convention would be for. S. then launches into this long story about how her husband has some rare, incurable illness and she hopes that this con will raise money and awareness for the condition.

But then T. asks where the money will be going. "I'll put it all into a bank account so everyone can see where it's going," says S. "Since there aren't any foundations for the disease yet, half will go towards future cons.

And the other half will go towards paying my husband's medical bills."

>>4882939
This. You need to eat as much as you are working out. Remember that the quality of food as well as what you're eating is just as important as how much. I would definitely recommend lifting as well.

I know a lot of people struggle with this, but I want you to keep in mind that your health comes first and then lolita. Being able to fit in that AP dress is simply a perk of getting to a real goal weight that you feel comfortable in.

>>4882853
Haha, I'm guilty as charged. I have a tendency to undercut prices because I really do want to get rid of stuff that doesn't work for me. Luckily, I'm not those people who sell lolita because they can't afford to pay their rent.

being a lolita sure sounds suffering...
im starting to having second thoughts about becoming one.

>>4885082
>implying that wearing a fashion requires you to do all the batshit crazy things people on the internet do

>>4884977
And some other weird shit that she's pulled:

-At the meetup where the anime convention occurred, she complained that the impromptu game of brand bingo (instead of B1, I10, G6, etc. the squares on the bingo cards had names of brands and prints) was unfair because she "didn't know the names of brands and didn't know any prints."
- I held a craft meetup at my house, and asked that everyone RSVP 5 days in advance so I could be sure I had space, food, and supplies. She calls 20 minutes before to ask if she can bring her husband and son. I tell her no, and she proceeds to rant at me on the phone about how I'm an entitled bitch. I hang up.
- She mentioned at a meetup that her birthday was coming up, and she'd love some brand. Another girl mentioned as a joke that her birthday had already passed and she hadn't gotten a present. S. points to her chest and says to the other girl, "I'm so, so sorry! You can have this!" When the other girl says that S. doesn't have to give her the clothes off her back, S. says, "No, not my blouse, I just meant my brooch!"

continued in next post...

>>4885112
And for the last of S.'s craziness...

- In typical S. form, she brings an uninvited friend to a meetup. This is quite possibly the creepiest guy I have ever met. He makes no effort to talk to any of us, no effort to reciprocate when we try to speak with him, and spends most of his time just awkwardly sitting there. Later in the meetup, he creeps up silently behind me and whispers in my ear that he likes my outfit. I almost shat my pants. He then proceeds to do the same to every other attendee. This is also the friend who she later wants me to "donate" clothes to.

She also used to make these really idiotic posts to the local FB group, egl_plus, and EGL all the time. My FB notifications were constantly full of her posts- "What do you think of this Bodyline dress???" "Are my thrift-store boots lolita??" If any of us dared to explain why her shit was, well, shitty, she'd flip out on us.

And that's all for my stories, I haven't seen her in months and I couldn't be happier about it.

Please note that all names and initials have been changed.

>>4885116
These stories just made my night. Wish I knew this lolcow IRL.

>>4884013
I'm sorry sis, but you can have my short-ness.
I'm far too close to the ground to be comfortable. I'm always falling over, and shit looks way crazy on me because of broad shoulders.

>>4884126
My friend's package was left at her door one time. They didn't leave a "you weren't home" notice, they just left it.
Had it been raining, her clothes could have suffered greatly. It doesn't cost you anything (or 5cents) to do it, and it shows you care about the transaction.
Good customer service - we like it.

is S littlesebastian? sounds like her nuttiness

>>4885240
Nope, sorry. I forgot that there was another idiot on the comms with S. as an initial.

>>4884863
Ooo I'm more severe than you, then.
I can't drive. Can't. Can't physically do it.
I know that eventually I'd have a panic attack and swerve into someone. It's just too random and sudden.

Anything know anything about Juniorsweet? She has all these gorgeous dresses but I've never seen any photos of her.

From comm-sales and her personal LJ spat with the girl from canada over customs fees, she seems really bitchy imho.

>>4885316
Here you go:
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/4584278.html#cutid1

FWIW I don't think her wardrobe is as great as it looks on Poupee. She's CONSTANTLY making giant sales posts.

>>4885327

Thanks!

meh, her coords make me sad. She has so much gorgeous brand... at least coord better than using the same plain tights + cutsew 2/3 times in one dlolita post.

So I get a message on livejournal the other day after making a sales post with my location in it from a girl who's moving to my area. She seems a little strange, but I'm kind of used to the particular brand of wacky that lolita seems to attract. She says she's going to a college in the area. It's the same one I'm going to! I ask her major. It's the same as mine! It's a small school, so I'll probably have a few classes with her. Well, that's cool.

So a couple days later, I'm browsing /cgl/ and see a link to a daily_lolita post with a particularly heinous outfit. I scroll up to the username and lo and behold, it's the same girl who messaged me. D:

I'd repost the picture but I'm really paranoid she'll find out it was me and I don't want to come across as a TOTAL bitch.

>>4885272
You can do it. Don't give up! I've been off medication for about nine months now and I've been getting better. My last genuine panic attack was about six months ago. Some days, I feel the start of one bubbling up as I leave the house, but I've learned a few tricks for coping (breathing exercises are good and I avoid anything that will upset my stomach ahead of time and make me more anxious, like coffee or dairy).

I was driving downtown in an unfamiliar area and my GPS crapped out because of a rainstorm. I got lost and had to pull off the highway into a gas station where I hyperventilated, thought I was going to puke and called my boyfriend to cry about how terrified I was. He talked me down and I was really shakey the rest of the night, but I got to my destination safely by taking my time and not giving up.

There are going to be break downs and you are going to be scared, but if you keep trying, it does get better. I promise. Don't give up, anon!

>>4885379
Thank you anon! If there's something that helps, I'm all ears.
I'm glad you continued with your trip, that must have taken huge amounts of courage. I love hearing success stories too, a lot of the people I talk to are struggling at around the same point I am, mostly housebound.
About the coffee/dairy, do you also have IBS? Those foods can be upsetting and heighten anxiety in anyone, and are a big issue for people with IBS. I've noticed there's a lot of instances of people having both. It's even worse when they tend to trigger each other lol

>>4885445
Funny enough, yes. lol

Odd how those things go together, huh? I have Crohn's as well as the agoraphobia, though both are considered in the "mild" category, now. I was on a few different things for the agoraphobia, the last of which was Celexa and the strongest of which was Klonopin (which is like being drunk 24/7; I would sleep for twelve hours a night if I didn't set an alarm. Do not recommend it unless you really, really need a good nerve-calming drug, which I did at the time). For the Crohn's, right now I'm on Pentasa and have to watch what I eat in general. Certain foods land me on the toilet within a few hours and it's a fast-track to a day or two of painful bathroom trips.

I really lost the genetic lottery, it's almost joke-level at this point; I have dyshidrotic eczema from being a florist (if my hands get wet for extended periods, the palms blister), I have eyelashes that grow the wrong direction and scratch my eye, so I have to have those plucked every four months or so, I have an autoimmune disorder that results in scary flare-ups every few months even with medication, an anxiety disorder (which is mostly under control these days, thank God) and endometrial scarring caused by micro cysts. On top of this, I never developed four of my adult teeth and had to have oral surgery as a kid to get four of the ones I did have to actually come out of the roof of my mouth.

>>4885316
deets on the drama

>>4885488
I'm sorry to hear that anon, that's a lot to deal with. I took klonopin for two years before moving over to lorazepam. I still take a benzo everyday, trying to withdraw from them altogether though.

We have some similarities here. I have agoraphobia, IBS, an autoimmune disorder, a bladder disease, poliosis (just a weird pigmentation on some of my hair/eyebrows/eyelashes), cold urticaria, some sort of asthma (or lung scarring, waiting to see the specialist), and some benign tumors.
It gets in the way of living life. The hardest thing is to just continue on anyway. I hope your autoimmune is getting treated well, don't be afraid to get second or third opinions on treatments! Some doctors have little tricks or tips they've used in other patients.
I put my email up just in case you feel like talking more. It's getting late here, so I have to sleep now :)
It was great talking to you though, you never know where you find inspiration, and you just happened to give me some tonight.

>>4885566
Ohdamn, you poor thing. I hope that the process of getting off the drugs does help you, though. I know that once I got off the last of the medications I was prescribed, I felt a lot better over all. A lot of the things that I was prescribed made me feel lethargic and dazed. I wouldn't panic because of the drugs, but they slowed me down and actually made me feel worse.

Coping with more "hippie" techniques (as my dad likes to call them) doesn't work for everyone, though. The things that work best for me are breathing exercises (from talking to friends, they're really similar to the kinds of breath control exercises yoga martial arts encourage) and more or less self-denial. I don't let myself go home when I'm starting to feel panicked, more or less, and each time I go out, it's a little bit less frightening. The more often I manage to go out and do normal things (like go to work, go shopping, visit with friends at a restaurant), the less scary getting out really is.

My doctors are also really super supportive, so when I have issues, they're there for me at the drop of a hat to offer advice or assistance however they need. My gastro doctor is especially attentive and will call me within an hour of receiving any emails or messages.

Same goes for my family and friends. They know what the score is and are there to lend a hand if I really need one.

I'm still iffy on public transportation (trains turn me into a shuddering wreck), but I can now take planes with only minor qualms and as long as my GPS is working, driving's no big deal for the most part. A few years ago, I wouldn't have wanted to even try trains, but now, I'm looking forward to moving to a new city and giving them another shot. haha

I'll add you to my gmail and aim, if that's okay with you? I'll shoot you a line sometime. Support from people who know what you're going through is good. Always. And if I have helped you even a little bit tonight, that makes me glad.

I have a 20-inch shoulderspan, at just under 5'2". I'm not even fucking fat. I guess it works out because I hate blouses anyway, but I love OPs and that's a problem. I just feel like the Incredible Hulk or something.

I weigh 150 lbs and am 5'5" high
Though according to everyone I know apparently I look a good 20-30 pounds smaller?? Idk if my scales are fucked up or what but haha it's nice
Though I do struggle to fit into some dresses which will fit my waist, but I always end up having to get a size or two bigger because of my breasts
It's gotten to the point where I'm considering surgery to make them smaller!
It's really frustrating and rararaghrghagrhahrgsdhgkzjd rants like a crazy person but wow whyyyyy
They're only a B/C cup too B/

>>4885116
> Later in the meetup, he creeps up silently behind me and whispers in my ear that he likes my outfit.

i hate flaky buyers, e.g. the ones who tell you they will buy the item after asking a billion questions and then not buying it and the ones who ask you to hold it and then they back out. i am going to start doing deposits for holds now.

>>4885678

You are me. I know that feel so much. I can't wear any puffy sleeves because I look dumb.

so, are there any lolita tumblrs out there that post pictures without stupid personal shit? i am so tired of following people who i think are 'picture blogs' at first, only to be engulfed in stupid abortion or replica drama a few days later.

>>4881530
Ok so, here's the thing about this: It actually costs a lot more money to make the side seams line up when mass producing dresses. After the pattern pieces are made, they are put on a huge bit of paper called a marker which is then placed on top of hundreds of layers of fabric. Since lolita dresses usually come in one size, multiple copies of pattern pieces will be put on the marker to make cutting more efficient. This means that the fronts, backs, waistbands whatevers of all the dresses are arranged to best fit and not necessarily with eachother. This is also arranged around things like splice lines which are used to move around fabric faults with minimum waistage and other things. Anyway, moving a pattern piece to align it perfectly with the pattern on the side seams means that less pieces can be cut at once, less pieces can be cut from the same piece of fabric (drastically so) and when you are producing hundreds of dresses the fabric this adds (even a few inches) will end up costing hundreds of dollars more, as well as the extra time it will take laying out another hundred or so layers of fabric for all the pieces that no longer fit on the first marker (this can take hours). Sorry that this is kind of complicated, but with a custom printed fabric this could cost a brand much more per dress. Most loli dresses are already made of incredibly shitty materials (seriously, they are some of the worst fabrics i've ever seen) so I assume either a) they run on a razor thin profit margin as niche brands or b) they are greedy in which case you are right and they should line the side seams up but they know they will sell the dresses anyway because they are a niche market with such little competition.

Sorry for the rant, but fashion industry reppin.

>>4886121
What are you favorite lolita styles?

>>4886199
Fashion bro-fist, thank you.

And since it was brought up, no brand matches up the side seam. Imagine how much fabric it would cost to match up a border print.

>>4885217
It was a pair of socks she was complaining about. I don't wrap a dress like I do a pair of socks.

After reading this thread I feel like I should take fucking nuclear radiation precautions when I ship shit. Do I need to wrap it in radiation-proof packaging and then ship it in a titanium box to protect from earthquakes?

>>4886251
No, just fucking wrap it in a grocery bag and stick it in a box. Done.

>>4886251
>>4886357
I like to tape the seams of the box as well to make sure no liquid or bugs or anything can get inside.

>>4885864
I used to be the same weight and height as you, and I'm going to tell you now - if you think no one notices that you're 150 they're either lying to be nice or blind.

>>4886515
Different body types? I used to weigh around that but most of it was in my butt and upper thighs. I hid it really well by always wearing flowy knee-length skirts and tops that were tight because my waist is small. There's actually a picture floating around of a fat lolita (bigger than 150 though) that did the same thing. She looks a lot smaller in her Gardenberry pictures than she does in her shirt-and-jeans pictures because most of her weight went to her hips and thighs.

What do you do when the dress you recently traded came with a bunch of unmentioned stains? I'm not even sure if this is normal since this is my first time trading...

makeup stain on neckties, stains on inside lining, food?stains on the center bow, random tiny yellowy-brown foodspots throughout the dress.

>>4886821
If you traded through the egl-comm-sales, then contact a mod, take pictures of the damages, take screen shots of the original trade-post and any "proof" photos posted by the original owner. Basically build up any and all proof you can that you received the dress in that state and that you were not informed of the damages beforehand. The stronger your case, the better. Since no money was exchanged in paypal, you are entirely dependent on the mods to help you convince this other person to either give you money in compensation or to agree to restore each dress to its original owner.

I'd personally go for getting my original dress back. I'd even be willing to pay my own shipping just to get back what I originally had in the condition I sent it in.

>>4886841
Yeah i traded through Angelic poodle, but I had the same post on egl and all of this was done through pms.
However, I never asked for upclose proof photos or even the question if there was any damages... seller just provided a link to her wearing the dress and I ate it up... :/ (it was mp btw)

>>4886752
Wait, you mean happiimilk? pic related.

>>4881448
>>4881249
We try but the mods say NO, NO OUTSIDE LINKING

>that feel when I'm 5'6 185lbs and I'm just starting to go to the gym

Feels bad, man. I can't even fit into good Lolita clothes because I'm a fucking fatty.

I have seeing girls complaining about being 140, though. But when they're MY HEIGHT. 5'6 140lbs is holy fuck you are just skinny as fuck, seriously. On the other end I hate super fat chicks who hate skinny girls for being skinny. Some of them are just anemic, like my roommate.

I'm 5'8 and 186 lbs and I can fit into most AP dresses with at least a 1/4th panel of shirring and most Baby ones too... but I CANNOT. for the life of me. fit into AATP.

Gymtime...

>>4887016
I'm 5'9" and 170lb and can only fit into full backshirred AP or completely backshirred dresses because all my weight is in my motherfucking tits

>>4886985
Good luck!
Tbh, people are so much more critical about themselves... I used to be around 152 lbs and after getting into lolita and losing some weight I am now around 130. Guess what, I still feel like shit. If you told me "130" when I was 152 I'd say cool, I'd be happy at 130, I'd look good, I'd feel good, everything will fit. Yeah, no. I still feel like an idiot in lolita, especially when I see pics of myself... and at the same time, I see way bigger girls who look adorable and perfect. Go figure, I have no idea what I need to do. Probably lose more weight, but then if I do, I don't know if I will feel better or if I'll still feel rubbish...

>>4886961
AAH.


Goddam you startled me

>>4887058
Ikr. I used to think I was slim at 110ish but I look like a fat slob in lolita for whatever reason. I am starting to think that I am just not a cute person. Lolita has totally killed my already-fragile self-esteem.

>>4886515
150lbs of muscle looks a lot different than 150lbs of fat

>>4882259
>>4882251
I do this. I KNOW I do it, and I don't plan to stop.
Because Lowly is already a word, and it's one that means something I don't want to associate with lolita. It also sounds silly, and "law-lee" sounds nicer to me, and evokes a mental image of cute, brand items with sweets on them.

I don't say "loli" very often irl anyway, because when talking to other lolitas, I don't really need to describe something as being lolita or not, and I have to explain my clothing choices to random people on the street more than that anyway. But when I do, deal with it.

It's not like every single person in Japan, including all the designers of your favorite brands, aren't mispronouncing the word anyway.

>>4883806
Yep. Especially if they're new. The cuff measurement was probably a big tight, which made them more likely to roll down. Also, the less socks stretch around, the more they stretch up.

All my old socks are so stretched out and look weird on me.

>>4884863
Yeah, for me, it comes down to, I can't/won't drive and there are no meetups in my state. I can't/won't drive because I nearly died in a car crash once, and by the time I got to an emotional place where I was ready to learn to drive again, affording a car+gas+insurance every month vs a bus pass was ridiculous.

However, I don't force other people to go to meetups with me. I just only attend events like cons or mixed lolita and other fashion events that someone I know wants to go to, and help pay for gas.
>>4884196
Oh lord, this. Ravers at cons in general bother me, since con "raves" are not really much like real raves, and at my local ones, it's like pulling teeth to get them to play any type of music that's not techno. Every fucking year I request about 10-15 danceable, reasonably popular and well known songs that involve... y'know, bands who play instruments and sing, and every year it's the same playlist of happy hardcore, the soundtrack to interstella 555, carmeldansen, and rick astley. And then when I mention it, someone's always like "hurr... it's a rave!"

>>See sales comm post for item that says "or best offer."
>>Offer to pay the price they stated for the item, but no shipping.
>>Item is small enough for flat rate box, I live in same country as them.
>>Post is 2 months old.
>>"No, that would be less money that I am willing to pay, sorry."

WTF?
Why would you put "or best offer?"

>>4887376
Ewww have they ever even been to a real rave?

>>4887376
You expected them to play regular rock music at the con rave? You do know that a dj can't really just mix that stuff in that easily, and any ways what did you expect? If you didn't expect to listen to shitty anime techno, then why did you go to the con rave? :/

>>4887376

>soundtrack to Interstella 5555

>5'6 140lbs is holy fuck you are just skinny as fuck

>bmi = 22.6

That's pretty far from being underweight or skinny...

>>4887456
Um... from what I understand, con raves are nothing like real raves.
Also, the "dj" at my local cons does no mixing, just plugs winamp into the sound system.

I don't understand why it's con "rave" at all. What do cons have to do with rave culture? If it was all japanese music, I could understand that better. But taking "requests" and refusing to play anything but the same shit is stupid. Pretending a con rave is anything like a real rave is stupid. It's basically a dance party the con throws for something fun to do. If that's the case, why not play more variety? Or, in the case of one of the cons I go to that has TWO dances, why not have one be a "rave" and the other have a different theme? There are plenty of genres of music that are highly danceable. Even people I know who enjoy techno get sick of hearing the same 12 songs played on a loop.
>>4887520
Yeah, I know, but they're playing specifically that album for that reason. So I think it's more accurate to say it that way.

>>4887585
No, there is a specific reason the album is titled "Discovery".

>>4887592
Uh huh, and what I'm trying to say is the person playing it was only playing it because the movie was Japanese and didn't give a shit about Daft Punk.

>>4887400
I have a similar story.
> See $35 item on comm_sales
> Says "not taking offers at this time", so I ask for shipping cost.
>wait three weeks since maybe now she'll accept offers.
> Offer $30 plus shipping
> "Sorry, but I'm currently not taking offers"

Not pissed or anything, but three weeks later is not "currently" anymore and is a pretty good time to start accepting offers, and it's not a bad offer for the item.

>>4887585
to its credit, last time i was at the soap bubble "rave" at ACen (i think this was... 2005?), they did do some mixing of popular american and japanese songs instead of just SANDSTORM, ONE MORE TIME, KERNKRAFT, TWOMIXX

>Finds a cute skirt
>Cool, it's not that much, and it's small enough to fit in a flat rate
>Is told that the shipping will be $30 because they need to make up the lost money
>Fucking just be honest with the price, you bitch

Bump because these threads are too lulzy and informative to die

I hate people who treat lolita like some sort of social club. Some girl moved to my area and started posting arrangements for "meet ups" at least twice a week. WTF? Go
make real friends. We're not going to be your BFFs just because we're into the same clothing. I find it very strange when I add a loli on facebook (and I mean people I know, not efamous lolis who have specific profiles for lolita) and 95% of her friends are other lolitas. Like, don't you have a life outside of this?

>>4890140
No ;A;

I was never at ease around other girls but I've found myself so lonely recently. One of the reasons I enjoy lolita is that it gives me a safe common ground and reason to talk to other girls and now I've got a couple of "loli friends". I am not crazy enough to think we are besties or anything near to that but it is better than nothing.

I do have a bunch of other friends from high school but that's it. This is going to sound super special snowflake but I hardly ever meet people with similar enough personalities in real life to put myself out in real life and try to become friends. I even asked another girl at the office if she wanted to go get her nails done with me at lunch but she said no...

>Really like dolly kei[
>Broad bone structure, losing weight, big feet
>5'6"
; ~;

>>4890140
Many of the lolitas I know have a Facebook that's solely for lolita photos, acquaintances, and groups, so potential employers/dates/whatever aren't put off by their lolita hobby. The lolitas you know may simply be doing the same thing.

And I don't know, some of my best friends are lolitas, and I never would have met them if I hadn't gotten into the fashion. On the one hand, you're right, and it is kind of stupid to assume that every single other lolita you meet is going to be your BFF. But on the other hand, it's kind of close-minded to assume that you'll never have anything in common with another lolita but the fashion.

>>4890272
I've got the same problem, but I'm 160cm. Perfect height for lolita. Full of rage, let me tell you.

>>4890272
>Big feet
Me too, sis. Bodyline is the only place that makes okay shoes in my size.

>>4890777
I actually think taller lolitas look better most of the time. It's just my personal preference, but I feel like tall (but not like, She-hulk huge) lolitas often have a super willowy look to them whereas shorter lolitas (shorter than average, I mean) can look stumpy because of all the layers.

>>4890140
Speaking as someone who has had to move recently, making new friends who share your interests can be difficult. Not impossible, but it can be hard. I've had issues meeting people. The folks I work with are significantly older than me and I wouldn't want to socialize with them and the "normal" means of meeting people doesn't often pan out, because I'm not interested in going to bars or clubs with a bunch of strangers as is socially accepted.

Once you get out of college, it can be hard to make friends in a new place without resorting to social sites like MeetUp.com. So I can understand why she would try to make friends with you guys, as you're an already-established circle of instant-friends for her to capitalize on. Not saying she should, just saying I get why she has.

>>4890507

They're not lolita specific profiles. They have non Lolita photos tagged at family events, list their jobs, etc.

I'm 4'8" and everything is huge. So many loli pieces are gorgeous, but I'm not buying a $200 dress just to cut it up and remove half the fabric.

>>4890272
>>4890777
>>4890795
>big feet
Same here...

>>4890800
I didn't mean like absolute perfect, just that most brands try to sew their clothing for people 160cm, with leeway here and there.
I prefer tall lolitas as well, but fashion looks better on taller people in general.

>>4890800
I agree with this. I use to think the Japanese were doing it bet, but after being in the community for a while I realized being short in lolita looks a little pathetic, like a kid wearing clothes they are growing in to.

I can't stand when seller don't own a scale. So they try to justify over-charging for shipping with this. It's just something you need to own as a seller to calculate shipping, just like you need a tape measure to measure size.

Also bugs me when sellers feel the need to state that they are charging you for things like tape.

>>4891387

:(

I don't have "big" feet, but I have wide feet. It seems like Bodyline is the only place I can find lolita specific shoes that tend to run wide,(granted, I've run into a few that are too narrow at the toe). Otherwise, I have to go on a difficult hunt for something nice at non-lolita stores.

Custom House shoes look shitty and they don't make them any wider than 9.5 cm. T_T

If only secret shop makes their tea parties for wider width feet. I used to own a pair and they were the cutest and most durable lolita specific shoes I've ever seen. Unfortunately, they were uncomfortable to walk in and they don't seem to roll well with walking movement. I can't wait until I can afford to get surgery to fix my feet. No more nasty pain from being on them too long and shopping for shoes will be easier.

>>4885864
Look at getting a proper bra fitting because if you're only a B you're either A: wearing the wrong size bra, since most lolita clothes should look fine at a B cup, or B: your ribcage/underbust is too big for the clothes, and a breast reduction would not fix that.

Once that's figured out, consider buying a minimizer bra or wearing a sports bra or compression shirt under lolita.

>>4891471
I don't mind a seller charging me for tape, but why would you mention it? Just roll it into your shipping costs!

Also not sure why people don't own a scale. I live close enough to a post office that I can get things weighed before I post them, but if you have to ship using PayPal or your post office won't weight things for you, just invest in a scale. They cost freaking $10, you have no excuse.

>>4891521
Rolling it into your shipping costs would be fine if you didn't get people on the other end bitching that what you charged them for shipping differs from the postage by 30 cents. Yes, I've had people complain about that in my feedback. 30 cents FFS. I wish I were exaggerating.

>>4891992
Then add it into the price of the item? Considering almost everyone uses tape, mentioning your charging specifically for it is a bit silly. You buy one roll of packing tape, and you're set for quite a few packages

>>4891992
If you print your postage directly form paypal there is an option not to display the value on the label. I charge the same to ship for everything. Sometimes it comes out cheaper, sometimes it goes over. If people can't tell how much it cost to mail, they can't complain on the occasions when you over charge.

Oh man, twice now I've seen fucked over by sellers living in bum-fuck-nowhere. Both items that I sold for $25 shipped where shipping should have only being $2.50-$3. Ended up being $6 because it was middle-of-nowhere North Dakota, and no-mans-land Kansas.

>>4891992
I ship via Paypal so the value is obscured. But if that's problematic for you, maybe add a $1-2 handling fee (e.g. "Item is $100 + $5 shipping +$1 handling fee). It's within the rules and that way you can cover the cost of tape, bubble mailers (if you use them) and so on.