Going off OPs thing, probs all the threads that start out with "What do you think of cosplayers who...."

Cuz discussing them weekly and getting nowhere when another newbie has a unique question/discussion poiint no one has ever thought of asking is good times.

I like how she hides it as offering advice when making it glaringly obvious she is being mooched off and wants advice herself.

>>4847055
Yea, it looks like she was trying to be sneaky, but it is really obvious what she's doing if you had seen her previous threads. LOL

i don't understand what anyone could even say in response to that.

she pretty much answers her own question

I personally am looking forward to her guide on how to avoid being a cosplay mooch, you know... written by a doormat.

>>4848721
It's not even like her old threads were that old. Pretty sure I've posted in them before, haha. If not, I lurked that shit.

>>4845272
Ummm....paying? It sounds like she just wants an indentured servant.

They hate us so very much.

>>4849175
Nothing surprising here. We don't sugar-coat things.

Whenever Axeli wants to point out fallacies.

>>4849371
Or when people spell her username wrong. I agree though. Have one simple minded person take a logic class and next thing you know, they're pointing out fallacies whenever an argument doesn't go the way they want it to. Even if they're the one to start it.
I still find the fact she's head over heels for Homestuck after hating on it for so long very hypocritical. But it was pretty obvious that's how it was going to turn out from the start, so~

>>4849175
Nah. Only the ones who never look here do. It's actually not all that surprising how many of them lurk on here.

bump

>>4849733
Yeah, I've seen a lot of coscom members on /cgl/ and I'm one myself, so whatever. It always amuses me when someone brings the site up on coscom and everyone immediately makes it sound like a cosplay internet hell and that everyone here is a raging asshole out to tear them down.

>>4850769
It's exactly the same with lolita. Plenty of helpful, well-dressed, popular girls visit here but it's still apparently a hive of scum and villainy where only ugly mean jealous bitches go to shit on everyone better than them. Okay.
I think those people referring to 4chan as some kind of evil place have never actually been here, or have only seen /b/ on a bad day. The ones that actually do check it out properly tend to stick around. 4chan is addictive.

>>4850782
Half of the time, cgl is 100x better than coscom when it comes to asking questions and getting feedback. In my experience, if I ask a question on coscom it either gets ignored or I end up with advice from people who don't know their shit. At least here, people come out with some great advice and ideas and there's always someone with examples or a tutorial. It's just that people don't take any shit here and are quick to call you out.
And that's so true. I was the same a couple of months ago - I'd only ever been on /b/, saw a few less than pleasant threads and was like "shit, that place is horrible". Now I come here all the time. No regrets.

Everything that PapercutSenvy says or does belongs in this thread

>>4850961
Personal favourite. Why she thinks she looks great as every character is beyond me because she looks nothing fucking like them. Either her friends are lying or she's bullshitting.

>>4850968
Dear god.

>>4850968
>APH America cosplay

>>4851005
>Yeah guys. So, in a spontaneous photoshoot with my Ciel wig, I took a picture where I looked JUST LIKE a 6-year-old AKA young Ciel. In the right lighting, I look about 6 years younger than I am. It's a miracle. And Ciel's young outfit(s) (The one you see when the mansion's burning, as well as the one when Madam Red visits for the first time) look easy enough to pull together on a budget. TA-DA! My costume for AAD. Wish me luck~

A part of me dies every time I look at her "cosplay" gallery.

>>4851007
her gallery is shit

>>4851007
WHY does she think that these photos and "cosplays" look good?

>>4851028
Probably because she's a 12 year old weeaboo.

I'm scared.

>>4851191
What the hell was she thinking? Damn.

>>4851229
My thoughts exactly. It's a shame since I actually think she's gorgeous but the makeup and contacts ruin it and make her look like a failed kigurumi.

>>4851249
Wait.

That's someone's actual face?
I thought she was a mannequin, goddamn.

>>4851265
>I buy them more for enlargement more then anything else, (circle lenses) I feel like they can really bring your makeup to the next level and help you achieve the "doll-like" appearance. Example: My Anya makeup.
tl;dr - yeah, that shit's an actual face.

>>4851191

Oh my god that looks retarded. She definitely followed Michelle Phan's makeup tutorial.

>>4851191
She doesn't look real, that is frightening.

>>4851191
wow...

>>4851191
The only thing that annoys me about her makeup is that people on Coscom are so enamored by it when it's obviously OTT.

>>4850968
I know she's young, but hasn't she come out and proudly proclaimed that she doesn't use makeup while cos/crossplaying?

Ohhhh coscom. What a shit show.

They have a thread about weeaboostories. I couldn't stop laughing reading the replies.

>>4852321
Yeah. Also said she doesn't shave her legs and wouldn't for cosplay, she'd just wear tights. That squicks me out more than anything.

>>4852366
Oh man, screen caps?

And I used to get so much shit from people who frequented coscom because I go to 4chan instead, talking about how I'm scum of cosplay community and no one in this place has any intentions other than to screw you over...

>>4852366
I haven't been on in over a week, mind capping some of the more hilarious answers?

>>4852371
I forgot that gross detail. I guess the cake topper's the fact that she's cosplaying Alois with his booty shorts.

>>4852381
Huge part of why I've never stated that I frequent /cgl/ more often than I do CosCom. I'd rather be critiqued over my costume than the websites I choose to frequent.

>>4852381
http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=251812
I can't even reply.

It seems like coscom members will just look at a page of something without getting the most basic information, and then completely over dramatize it.

>>4852426
The thread has already completely sidetracked, like most of those threads do.

>>4852426
Oh god. I'm glad her camera phone is so shit. It needs to be to hide her leg hairs.

And I've never mentioned on Coscom that I frequent /cgl/ either, since I know people will bitch at me for being on here and assume that I'm an asshole because of it. Most of the members are so misguided about what /cgl/ is actually like.

What a tragedy.

And of course, Axelai's post.

this made me laugh so hard for some reason

>>4852486
Speaking of PeacockFeather...

has anyone else noticed that they all say they hate and despise people and things from 4chan yet they have "u mad bro?" in their signatures and forever alone faces as their icons, all which originated from 4chan?

>>4852505
And some of them have spoken about cosplaying memes (or finding it hilarious) before.

#4.

Wat.

>>4852481
The ironic part is her Prussia costume's on there.
And it's the most inaccurate one I've ever seen.

>>4852461
So fucking glad I'm not going to AWA. I don't need to see that in person.
Yeah. I'm not going to lie, though. I'd rather have some of them be misguided and stay off then actively post on here.

>>4852432
Respect for Flora = Decreasing. I actually sorta liked her because she seemed to stay away from a good portion of the drama, and her crossplaying is pretty amazing.

>>4852492
But we do call her out on the fact she acts like a creeper. I actually don't see any antagonizing on her costumes other than the fact that her wigs are always messes.

>>4852582
*on WeeabooStories as Good Cosplay.

>>4852600
Add JasonTerror to that list.

>>4852600
True.

>>4852720
My mind's blanking, do you mind posting his icon?

As he may actually come on here.

>>4852720
Oh god. Him.

>>4852729
Pic related. He's pretty distinctive since he types like a fucktard.

>>4852741
Oh good. I was confusing him with someone else.

>>4852741
>Blocked him
>Hasn't read anything from him in a while

>>4852788
I should do that.

Guys, remember when PapercutSenvy thought she might be asexual despite only being 12? She just came out as bi to her mum. I lol'd.

>>4850802
This so hard. /cgl/ is a lot faster and more helpful when it comes to construction ideas as long as you've done some preliminary digging around/googling if at all possible. I made a thread a few months ago about magnets and their uses for costumes and got some amazing feedback, ideas, and people posted bitchin images of their projects with magnets. I never would be able to get that kind of response on coscom because people there typically suggest hotglue for most projects. There are a handful of helpful and knowledgeable people but unfortunately, the retards tend to reply to threads first with "HURDURR I DUNNO". I also think the quality of responses here can he higher because most people are anon and/or there is no post counting.

I've never figured out why newbies on coscom want to get high post counts, it's not like Admin will ever recognize their contributions to the site and promote them or anything of that sort and if all they are doing is posting reaction images or stupid 1-liners, people tend to stop reading and lose respect (if there was any to begin with).

>>4852582
I feel bad that I actually get visibly irritated by her, especially since she is unfortunately now talking to a friend of mine on tumblr and I just wince whenever I see my friend reblogged something by her. The local community has several wonderful Prussia cosplayers, and we already have one who's rude and rather nasty. We don't need a crazy person like thatm especially now that she invited herself to join my friend's photobook[I am severely hoping she cannot make it out here for a year]

>>4853381
What did her mom say?

>>4853576
>Just came out to my mother...(I'm bisexual)
Three words. F. M. L.
Seriously, I think my life at home for the next six years will be living Hell, and according to Mom I'm going back to it when I die.
Well then. :'/
>She asked if I was gay, told her, she started ranting the Bible and it's wrong and we won't be in Heaven together and even more. And now she's mad at me for being in emotional trauma over it and forgetting to take a shower when she told me...My life is so amazing right now.

I'm always sad when I see Axelai post because I know her name is probably some retarded Kingdom Hearts shit and definitely not a play on Axelay for the SNES. If it were, she'd get a lot more respect from me, even if she is pants-on-head retarded.

>>4853666
Sorry for that green text fail, by the way.

>>4853572
God, I hate the people with random reaction images. Only place I can stand them is in the Off-Topic forum but when they spill into GCC... get out of here with your Fluttershy "haters gonna hate" gifs.
People on /cgl/ actually know what they're on about. If they see a thread they can't contribute to, most of the time they leave it alone. On coscom, like you said, it's full of mindless and unhelpful replies from newbies who think because they've bought their first eBay Miku cosplay, they're the dog's bollocks.

There are seriously five people that I can actually trust with information about wigs there. If they don't answer, I assume that I'm screwed.

Then I discovered /cgl/.

I dug this up just for you, /cgl/. I remember seeing this board months ago and wasn't sure if I should laugh or rage.

I find it funny they react this way to a thread about that tumblr.

Now I kind of wan to see their reactions to a thread about us.

>>4853737
I was thinking that same thing. I kind of wanted to start a /cgl/ thread earlier today, but I don't have the balls for it.

>>4853746
It would be the best thread. Alas, I also don't have the balls to post it. I'd rather people not know I'm a /cgl/ lurking bitch quite yet, since you know that's exactly the assumptions they go for.

>>4853746
I dont even have an account for it, not sure they would trust some one with a brand new account though...

oh my god someone please start a /cgl/ thread

>>4853753
This. I sell/shop in the Marketplace often and I don't want a post made by me to influence that.

However, I would happily post in said thread.

>>4852741
He's pants on head retarded. I can't make out what the fuck he's talking about most of the time. 'Tards like him, Axelai, and the shitload of dumb newbies are the reason why I hardly use the Coscom forums anymore. That and because the wig forum went straight to Hell.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?p=4095541#post4095541

have at it.

>>4853765
>Can you bleach a wig
>Can I dye this Brown wig pink
>How do eBay wigs

>>4853775
Thanks! And posted.

>>4853775
Awesome. I posted too.

I really want to see Axelai's response. Though, knowing her, she'll probably come here first to see what we have said already.

I posted!

>>4853827
Looks like she's not online right now.
Goddammit, I don't want to sleep in case it gets locked/deleted before the shit hits the fan.

man I had to dust off my coscom to post that but lol I like how it seems all but (2?) people in that thread are /cgl/ ers.

I'll admit the response is surprisingly calm.

>>4853861
if some one can post a thread about weeaboo stories in off topic forum preeety sure I can post one about /cgl/ in there.

Then again, if shit hits the fan....

>>4853873
Yeah, you know what that place is like.
"Oh god, a differing opinion? REPORT THE POST."

>>4853775
I posted.

>>4853901
oh well, worse comes worse I'll screen cap it. Besides it's all going really tame thus far. Granted I think it's full of those of us browsing this thread.

Posted.

EBK is in your thread ya'll. Somehow not surprised.

Didn't know pltshp frequented /cgl/

>>4853947
never had any run in with him, who is he?

I fucking love these threads.
Thanks for an exciting night, /cgl/.

>>4853957
Yep. I tend to lurk more than I post though.

>>4853958
A crap photographer.

>>4853958

Eurobeat_King. Dude he's the staff photographer. He's everywhere, kinda a creeper. Like to take pictures of the ladies.

Someone else would be able to give you more indepth on him.

>>4853957
There are several people who posted that I wasn't expecting too

>>4853979
Who?

Mangochutney, if your browsing around here, you have my great respect.

(even back when I did post I always looked forward to see'ing your reply's.)

>>4853974
He's not the staff photographer anymore. He hasn't been for a couple years now.
I can't seem to find his post; did he get deleted? Or is he just lurking for now?

>>4853979
Anybody on coscom who's actually helpful and uses English above a fifth-grade level comes here, anon. Who surprised you?

>>4853988

Really, could've sworn he still was.

He didn't post he was lurking for a bit.

>>4853987
That's really sweet of you, Jilly. I'm just a grumpy old bastard but I'm glad I can at least be entertaining sometimes.

>>4853979
>>4853990
>Anybody on coscom who's actually helpful and uses English above a fifth-grade level comes here, anon.

Ah, Touché. I think it was more a general "guess" that certain people on coscom were here too, but posting on coscom was like a confirmation.

Can't wait for Alyxiane's DEEP triple paragraph post.

What is with that girl that's posting now. It's almost like she's TRYING so hard to be that cute sweet moe stereotype.

She looks late teens early 20s that shit stopped being cute ages ago.

>>4854031
I notice she's cropped up over the past week or so. Her username annoys me more than anything.

>>4854031
You mean Lauren (ローレン) ?

I don't know why she's so afraid of this place.

>>4853775
Just so you know, when you open a thread with "Are they really such nasty people? I saw that thread about weaboo stories blog and it just got me wondering," and then discuss your posts on 4chan and the nature of the site, it makes it obvious you're trolling.
Also, I hope you guys realize that saying this place is helpful is going to attract Coscom newfags who will post dozens of "Who should I cosplay?" threads and cry whenever you don't compliment them.

>>4853576
I know that feel bro. As does my friend, but she has a greater chance of running into her during day to day at school.
I'm sorta curious though, how did she manage to invite herself to a photobook that's on the other side of the country?

>>4853693
It is a mashup of Axel from Kingdom Hearts and 'ai' as in love. She stated so in a couple places before.

>>4854051
It's making me laugh. Sad part is that there are LOT of people who are just like her. Jesus christ.

>>4854056
>and cry whenever you don't compliment them.
Then there really isn't a problem, they either get asspained and leave or they start arguing with people and end up giving us an entire thread of hilariously terribad posts. And in the latter case, there's still a good chance they'll leave.

>>4854051

Yeah her. It's like at first I can see being scared of this place but then she just kept going. If this had been real life I swear she would've been stuttering and going "Ai-yaaaaah s-scary" at mangochutney.

Not on the current topic, but this person seriously needs to gtfo
http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=252306

>>4854056
less trolling and more I was wondering what it is they did think of us.

but yeah it is rather obvios I came from 4chan, not to mention my out of the blue post when I havent been on there in months.

>>4854080
That's the kind of shit response you get on coscom, people replying in threads and ignoring the question asked. Fucking loled hard about this one. Thanks for sharing.

Well...there goes any chance of me posting in that thread.

>and cry whenever you don't compliment them.

Then they won't come back. Simple as that.

>>4854080
Oh god.

I get the strangest feeling coscom is watching us now.

>>4854080

Woman looks far too old to be pulling that shit.

>>4854065
>>4854106
That's the problem, though. Some of them will stick around, for weeks or months at a time. Just because they get butthurt doesn't mean they'll leave.

>>4854124
Same here. And they're guessing who we are.

>>4854124

Watching us, watching them? Watching you, watching me~

>>4854133
But at the very least, they'll stop posting pictures of themselves in fear of 'being torn apart' again?

>>4854133
They don't have to leave, but eventually they're going to get tired of being ignored or being made fun of and either figure out how to be a productive poster or leave. Or continue to post to "spite" us or something equally stupid. In which case that is as simple as ignoring every other trolling idiot who breezes through here.

>>4854145
I keep waiting for new trips to pop up. I don't know why I expect this

>>4854167
well now no one's posting in there so who knows. Think we scared them off

>>4854185
I'm going to give it a few hours before the shit hits the fan. Axelai and everyone else that hated this place don't even seem to be online.

>>4854194
I want them to get on just to see what they say....

Agreed, I doubt the affair could be over so soon. Shit, we're talkin about 4chan, specifically cgl, who many coscom users think is the big mean bully on the internet playground. I anticipate some butthurt person saying cgl literally went up on their front porch, took a shit, and lit it on fire, just for emphasis of how horrible this place is.

>>4854194
> a few hours
> it's 4am
> damn

>>4854216

Sorry eurofag. It's only 11 here on the East Coast.

>>4854235
Fuck timezones.

Aha, someone has breathed new life into the thread.
I loled at the "best online dysfunctional family" part.

>>4854250
Thanks! I love it here. I'm planning my first cosplay in 2 years now because I'm taking a break from college for an internship. This site is my constant inspiration.

and another post, come on I'm counting on those drama coscomers to log on.

It's midnight on the East Coast, but a reasonably good time for West Coast people to be signing on. We'll see

>>4854362
Implying? That's your dramawhore bait? Really?

If you want to get the wai waiiiiis in here, you're going to have to show that thread what you can really do. Stop being a lazy fuck.

I'm sorry but... "ITT Implying"?
That relly doesn't fit there. Everyone in the thread has been straightforward. No one has implied anything have they? Are they just trying to kind if name drop a common 4chan saying?

>>4854439
wasnt me man, that's just a coscomer being a coscomer.

>ITT: Lots of implying.

Is someone going to reply to that? I don't even know what the fuck to say.

>>4854475
what does that even mean? just someone trying to be witty?

>>4854475
Nor do I, tots wasn't aware anyone was implying anything either. People seemed to be pretty clear about their position on 4chan and cgl.

>>4854163
Or they can just fill up the threads talking amongst themselves. Which would lead to in fighting, derailed/ dead threads, or (everyone's favorite) tripfag circlejerking. Either way I win. I come here mainly for the lolz.

The useful threads die fast, Like the wig general threads we try to have. Yeah sure we have good ones, but we also have like 5 threads with two replies before we get a good one. Same goes for many general threads. In fact most helpful threads are the same 5 people trying to help, and even then never get the same amount of replies as the drama/pretty pics/ con review/weeaboo stories/ etc threads.

Seriously half the time the front page, and a substantial amount of the larger threads that keep getting bumped are completely off topic threads/ not the help you guys are lavishing on about.

Don't get me wrong, /cgl/ can post some helpful stuff, but you guys are sugar coating the fuck out of this place atm.

>>4854538
when some one asks a question here or a specific help thing, it doesnt get 50+ replys, generally like 10, sometimes more. They answer the posters question, help them get things figured out then move on. Thats what I at least think of when I think of /cgl/ as helpful.

The tutorial threads are always nice, and even the drama threads die out. And I'm willing to bet its the same people in those threads every time too.

>>4854538
if you come here for the lul's then quit sounding so butthurt.

>>4854580
>They answer the posters question, help them get things figured out then move on. Thats what I at least think of when I think of /cgl/ as helpful.

Which is why they aren't on the front page. Because people know how to ask specific questions here and give knowledgeable answers.

>>4854580
I see way more of the they ask for help and then don't get it, then the 10 replies and got what they needed scenarios. That's what I mean by not as helpful as this thread is making /cgl/ out to be.

My point about the off topic threads vs tutorial/helpful thread post count is that most anons end up feeding those then the "could I please have some help here" threads (which leads to the above scenario). And I'm not even counting "Who should I cosplay" in the helpful threads category.

>>4854591
I'm failing to see anywhere in my post that I seem butthurt. I'm just stating what I see as well as point out that /cgl/ isn't the bastion of helpful critiques this thread is seeming to paint. Nor that is without it's faults. See a lot of bashing coscom and praise for here. Just saying while here can be helpful this place also has some stupid shit/ serious flaws.

>>4854625
I think there are a few posts that go along that vein, stating that it has pros and cons, like any site. Some people may have gotten overzealous in their stating that 4chan and cgl aren't SO bad, but there definitely are posts that give a more balanced view of the site as well.

>>4854625
That has been pointed out multiple times in the thread, actually.

>>4854733

I'm not seeing it and I glanced over this thread twice. I did see "we don't sugar coat things" and "we won't compliment them so they'll cry" but I haven't seen "we have like 5 failed helpful threads for ever one good one" or "we have like 8 off topic threads on the front 3 pages right now"

I'm mainly seeing "I posted in a /cgl/ thread on coscom for the the drama" The negative things I see are "lol they think we're all just bullies/ scum/ etc" Again, still praising this place/ defending this place.

Just saying.

Also lol at the tutorial thread suddenly now getting bumped...

"Who gives a shit? As Mango said, 4chan is only comprised of people. Fuck their opinions. Fuck their opinions in whatever orifice they would least enjoy."

Well theres something, not much to go off of though.

I'm going to bed though. 1:54 where I am and I'll just look stupid if I whiteknight /cgl/ anymore on that thread. Most I've posted prettymuch ever.

>>4854829
Same time here and no one seems to ever read or respond to anything I post on coscom so whatevs, no point in making any further posts since I remained neutral.

>>4854808
but I kinda *want* sam vimes to fuck my opinions. by which I mean my vagina. should I post here more or less in order to accomplish this?

>>4854883
Tough call, proceed with caution. If you want to catch Sam's attention, I suggest posting some sort of reply to him on the thread. He's pretty good about replying to people

and we have some drama in on the horizon with the thread, EBK decided to finally post something.

Ive heard from numerous people hes a creep with a thing for the ladies, hell yea Ill call him out on it! I dont want some perv with my photo

Is EBK bitter about not being a mod? He ends all of his posts with "but I'm not a moderator anymore. "

>>4855241
>>4855260
>>4855308
You know, all I read in that long winded comment was, 'BAWWWWW people were mean to me on the internet on website where I couldn't ban them or delete the thread."

He does seem like a creep and he got called out on it. If he didn't want to seem like one I'm sure there were tons of suggestions for him, such as not doing private photoshoots in a hotel room.

so basically EBK is creeper with camera?

>>4855308
Probably.

I thought he was an okay mod but I haven't been on that website or spoken to him in years.

Well, that thread was a disappointment.

I don't Axelai and her posse have seem the thread yet. Just wait and see.

EBK is kinda a friend of mine.
I'm not sure why so many people here think he's such a creep; he's a little awkward but a nice guy.

If he's a creeper because he takes pictures of hot chicks, then fuck, almost everyone at cons is a creeper too.

and were getting more hateful responses now, slowly starting to get interesting.

>>4855260

I've met him a couple of times and he doesn't seem that bad. Hes pretty nice actually.

I just wish that EBK would weed out his photos or choose a few nice ones to post as opposed to uploading them all on ACP. I don't need a zillion unflattering photos of me up for anyone to see.

>"4chan mentality"
>"4chan is an abomination."
Can't even respond seriously, all I can do is laugh.

>>4856968

I have 2 legitimate reasons for throwing creeper status at him.

1) As a convention photographer you try and be as unbiased as possible while trying to take as many pictures of GOOD costumes as you can. We all know and can agree that there are men out there with amazing costumes. Now when you go through one of his albums you never see more than 2 photographs of a male in costume. Any woman bearing some skin? At least 5. This blatant sexist bias is what bothers me, maybe I'm just being butthurt because

2) at AUSA 2009, he told me on the cosplay.com forum that he wanted a picture of my Welkin Gunther costume. I was the only Welkin at AUSA. I walked by him in costume numerous times. We made eye contact on several occasions. Again, maybe I'm just butthurt but it's hard to dispute what's obvious.

Okay so reason 2 is not so legitimate for calling him a creeper, but reason 1 is pretty valid.

It's not /that/ he takes photographs of hot chicks in cosplay, it's that he only does.

>>4857991
This is the kind of reply we all expected. 4CHAN IZ DA DEVIL

>>4857754
Ask him and he'll take a bad shot down.

>>4858022
He is biased towards women, yeah, but it's not really like it's his job to take pictures of everyone. I don't go to cons and take pictures of everyone, just of things I like. Anymore he really only takes pictures of his friends/acquaintances anyway. That's why you see his galleries on ACP just being 50 pictures of one or two chicks instead of a lot of con shots.

This is probably due in part to so many people saying he's a creeper, so I can't blame him.

I feel like soon their going to start ganging up on anyone who actually likes cgl. I can't help but laugh though

>>4858235
Meh whatevs, if they can't handle a dissenting opinion, it is really telling of how mature they are... which we already know is "not at all".

I just don't like how many people never have visited 4chan or cgl and assume it is some horrible hell-hole just because of the he says, she says game. I really wish people would form opinions based on some fucking experience. Just once in a while, you know?!

>>4858428

Ironically that's what my current argument with kildread is about.

He just admitted he honestly didn't know what /b/ or /cgl/ were or that they were SEPARATE boards on 4chan. And yet he was like "I WAS THERE SAW NOTHING INTERESTING AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY IT SUCKS".

Informed opinion. Dude does not have one.

>>4851191
Oh, lord. I'll admit this is a really creepy frightening photo of me.

I sill need to work on my makeup skills, especially for that particular cosplay, it looked much less scary on Sunday when I knew what was wrong and how to fix it.

I'm also trying not to look derpy because of Johnny and obviously failing, haha.

>>4858472
Zizi and Kildread are kind of off in left field. I doubt Zizi has even been on any of 4chan's boards.

I also love how her post mentions 4chan mentality. Someone else pointed out that it's an internet phenomenon, which I feel is more correct.

Was she not aware that anyone wanting to troll can make an account with any silly name they want and still be "anonymous"? Proud Asian has proven how damn easy it is to just keep making new accounts. Who's to say an angry coscom person can't go and make a trolling account just to be an ass? We already know they don't do IP banning since Proud Asian just keeps coming back.

>>4858487
You don't need all that damn make-up, you're already pretty and it honestly just looks really unnatural and bad because most anime characters aren't supposed to look like they have a face full of make up.

I... I just cant fathom that guys argument. His second post in the thread was so confusing in it's structure.....

Things are starting to heat up in there it looks like, and we havent even seen who we know for fact hate /cgl/ with all their might...

>>4858489

Yeah that was me. It surprises me that none of these people remember the internet before 4chan. It's only existed since 2003. Trolling and assholes on the internet have been around since the 1990s.

Asshole behavior is not a new concept, it's been around since the dawn of the internet.

>>4858489

It saddens me taking a look at Kildread's profile. Dude has been a member for exactly a year, has 2000 posts and his entire gallery is nothing but closet cosplay.

What.

>>4858513
Well, considering how many coscom people are still kids, they probably weren't on the internets much/if at all before 4chan's creation. Trolling and generally antagonizing have become easier as the interactivity has increased. I think in Web 1.0 days it took a lot more creativity to troll people but it most certainly could be and was done.

>>4858487
If anything, you're fucking gorgeous and everyone has bad photos/days and it's good that you realised it yourself. I agree with >>4858499, you really don't need to cake yourself in make-up and I think you'd look so lovely with just basic foundation and a little mascara.

>>4858539

I just looked at the guy I'm arguing with. He graduated high school in 1999. In 1999 my 13 year old butt had been online for a year.

>>4858552
>8 years old
>Have internet classes at elementary school
>People went to teen chat instead of working

Anyway, that thread is starting to reach it's potential for a really good read.

I'm kinda surprised to see only about 2 people mentioned using 4chan filters to block unwanted/uninteresting content. I really think that's how this place gives you want you want to see.

>>4858586
I like seeing all of it, to be honest.

>>4858586

I mentioned it but I barely used it. I mainly use the thread tracker and I would block things that might just make me angry. But I give every thread a chance.

>>4858586
Me as well, I'll admit I find humor in some of the drama threads. And the troll threads are easy enough to ignore. But to each their own.

>>4858622
I'm waiting to see if people who admitted to visiting 4chan/ cgl will be vilified. Honestly, there are some super nice, non-trollish people who replied on coscom and said they visited. This will be interesting.

>>4858548
>>4858499
Oh, that's nice of you guys to say, thank you!

The face makeup is somewhat of a requirement, (I have really difficult acne and blotchy skin, oh teenage years..) so that part is heavy, more so then preferable, but it looks better then ance everywhere. (Or at least I feel it does.)

As for the eye makeup, perhaps I should tone it down a bit. I haven't done nearly as much in the past, this was the first time I went "all out" with it, which I admit might have been a mistake. (Though I did had fun with it!) I'll play around with it a bit before NYAF and try to find a happy [less creepy] medium.

Though I don't think just foundation and mascara will ever be my full routine, I like my eyeliner and fake lashes just a bit to much, haha.

>>4858711
I sympathise with the acne part. I have horrendous acne so for cosplay, I have to put a shit ton of concealer and foundation on so I don't look like the surface of the moon. I have no talent with make-up though. Can't apply eyeliner to save my life.

>>4858487
>>4858711
Wow. You are so pretty.

>>4858711
Holy shit are you pretty!
>>4858726
I used to stay away from liquid liner because my hands are so shaky. But after a few months of turning my eyes black, I got it down. Don't give up!

"/cgl/ is a shithole. Getting good advice there every so enough doesn't make it any less of a shithole."

Sam really doesnt like us...

>>4858711

Sorry, I just suddenly saw your pic skipping through posts and felt the need to tell you that that pic is beautiful and that I am now hopelessly in love with that wig.

Just so you know.

>>4859082
Another shining example of someone who has probably never visited this place.

>>4858991
I'd have more balls where eyeliner was concerned if my goddamn hands didn't shake so much and I didn't have this ridiculous phobia of eyes. I have this felt tip eyeliner but it's a piece of shit. I'll have to give liquid liner another shot (or 100...). ONE DAY, THIS WILL HAPPEN.

>>4859144
I am personally terrible with liquid liner. Felt tip and pencils work better for me but for very clean, long lasting lines, gel eyeliner is working wonderfully. I don't know why but holding a whole brush is a lot easier for me. You could give that a try some time.

>>4858726
It's awful, isn't it? I happen to have really oily skin too, so I have to apply powder every 15 minutes, and by the end of a con-day i'm a cakey mess. I long for having good skin...maybe some day!

>>4859128
Thank you! I love that wig too, sadly it was my second wig and I butchered it, I really need to buy another one and take care of it this time, heh. (It's a Sheryl blend candy striper from Arda wigs, if you were at all curious)

>>4858991
>>4858750
Thank you!

>>4859131

Pretty sure he's just a troll. There's an irony that he's been in EVERY thread I've ever been linked to from 4chan. Either the dude lurks here, or he just has a nose for drama.

Just found this. Had to share.
http://www.cosplay.com/marketplace/showproduct.php/product/50495/cat/14

$250 for THAT?!

>>4859705
That was actually posted in an older thread about rip-offs. And it's still as ridiculous.

>>4859289
Jumping on to the 'You're pretty' train. And while your makeup for Anya was OTT, you'd be better off if you even ditch the lower lashes and using makeup like in >>4858711
/unwarranted two cents

You mean to tell me I'm the only one that is watching this thread?

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=252286

>>4859846
You're not the only one, but we've seen it 10,000 times and haters gonna hate. I'm fat, she's full of shit, sometimes you just figure it's not worth the hassle.

>>4859877

Not so much the tpoic but the 'holier than thou' and butthurt batshits that can't take an opinion different than their own. It just boggles my mind.

>>4859944
Hi, Havok.

Or whatever. Surprise, if your opinion differs from someone else's because they think they're a human being and you think they're a joke, your opinion is the less correct one. And you're a malformed twat besides, honest or not. Have fun with that.

>>4859082

Well he's right, yeah there is some helpful info that gets passed along here, but those threads are quickly knocked off for some vendetta, Lolita drama, PT updates or trolling some artists on DA for whatever reason just look at the thread about that one ftm chick everyone is going after.

Evaunit01berser is there.
I can't wait to see what he contributes.

>>4859971

Not her. In fact, I called her out too. She could have expressed her opinion and been done with it, like she claimed MANY times. However, she did not and kept going. However, the bullshitting in that thread is so horrible. Every person who claims "I don't care if a landwhale prances about in a thong as long as their having fun" is the biggest piece of fuckery I've ever heard.

>>4860049
This. Christ, I don't want to see back boobs or fat rolls.

>>4860059
Stay indoors, wusspants.

>>4859980
Nothing at all, sorry.

>>4860049
I honestly don't care. I don't want to see it, but if they're having fun, who the fuck am I to tell them to stop?
I think rabid sports fans are obnoxious but I don't walk up to shirtless assholes painted blue at the local stadium and scream "Stop it. Stop having fun. This is a no fun zone!"

The bullshit part is the fact that people act like they don't react to seeing that shit. It gets a reaction, which is probably exactly why enormous people do it in the first place.

Havok should have just said the one thing and left it alone, now she's just trying to martyr herself in this anti-fatty crusade.

>>4860106
>>people act like they don't react to seeing that shit

Ever thought that maybe they really don't? That a big cosplayer in an unflattering costume is about as big a deal as an escalator or a chair? Shit, at the cons I go to there are HUNDREDS more bad cosplayers than escalators. Why bother giving a shit?

>>4860165

Don't have to act on it, but you'll notice and form an opinion. Whether you voice it or not is different, but people will be affected by seeing it. When the big person draws attention to themselves by being loud and obnoxious, no, it's not like a chair or the escalator. It's like a fog horn or neon bright lights.

I think that's what's getting them all in a craze. Just because someone doesn't agree, they think automatically they will go up and bash the person to their face. Most of the time it isn't the case, but they will definitely voice something in their own head.

>>4860225
I don't know where you are that big cosplayers in terrible costumes are going around being any more obnoxious than the ambient obnoxiousness of similar-aged population surrounding them.

Seriously, where the hell ARE you that all these huge cosplayers with blinking neon rolls of fat are standing on tables yelling at you to look at them? I think you're just giving a fuck that some people don't, anon, and that you might be better off letting that fuck remain ungiven. At the very least, you're being pretty silly by insisting that people who don't care really do care and totally agree with you, but are just being all secretive about it.

>>4860267

Whoa, slow your roll man. The discussion is on "big" cosplayers. There are plenty of other ones that bring attention to themselves, never said there wasn't. I do have a few examples in my mind of the overweight and skimpy clothes. That bothers me a bit, especially when they draw extra attention to themselves. Same with the yaoi-only fangirls, teens who can't understand common courtesy, the list goes on and on. If bigger people dress in things that flatter their body, as (pay attention to this part) well as ANYONE ELSE WHO COSPLAYS, I'll probably notice but it'll be with a positive light.

Just chill out and go to bed, you seem cranky.

>>4860286

>I do have a few examples in my mind of the overweight and skimpy clothes...

as well as skinny and obnoxious.

>>4860286
When you say this:
>>the big person draws attention to themselves by being loud and obnoxious

you're not talking about yaoi fangirls or skinny people. Kindly knock that nonsense off and at least stick to your own topic.

And you guys who have been around for more than a couple of weeks may notice that we've just passed to Stage 3 of 5 of this standard discussion. Stage 1 is Big Girls Shouldn't Cosplay Skimpy Costumes. Stage 2 is STFU. Now we're in the Other Kinds of Girls Are Bad Too stage, which will be followed in short order by the Existential Ennui stage and finally conclude in Stage 5, Everybody Should Just Wear a Nice Costume.

>>4860351

I've actually stated my point in the coscom thread under Playmysitardemy. I covered all of those in the post. I tried to stick to the topic since the rest deviates from the topic, but if you need to continue this, go read my post.

Sleep well.

>>4860372
I do wonder why you felt the need to expand the scope of things that bothered you to such a degree. The thread is titled "overweight cosplayers", and you do discuss having a bad reaction to them, but you also list things like bad makeup, wardrobe mishaps, and wig problems.

These things are transient issues. They can be remedied quickly, and fairly easily, and are suitable things to be bothered by simply because they CAN be fixed easily and have not been. Weight is not in the same category of issues. Why muddy your point? Are you presenting all of these as the same kind of aesthetic problem through carelessness, or as an attempt to downplay the distastefulness of your statement?

>>4860425

Let me try to sum it up as much as possible: It takes a few seconds to look in the mirror and deem yourself presentable. As I said before, someone cosplays to flatter their body and takes care in their prep time before going out that door, awesome. Doesn't matter the body type.

The topic was on "big" cosplayers, so I tried to stick to it, but I also offered examples of it being more than just that. For god's sake, my fiancee is a plus-sized person. I don't give a crap, but be respectable to yourself.

I like how there's someone in this topic so staunchly defending fat people.

You are aware that 90% of horror stories involved hambeasts, correct? Not to mention if they don't dress in a way that flatters them they tend to take the whole cake in horrible appearance (Lack of makeup, bad wigs, body odor problems etc). They're more noticeable because of that.

Don't try and lie and say they aren't. You're more likely to look at a fatgirl squeezing herself into a Faye costume and think to yourself "Damn, gurl that shit ain't cute" than "Awww, she's having fun, good for you". And if you claim you do, you're lying.

>>4860460
There's no need to sum up; I've read what you've said.

Unfortunately, you're still talking about two different things. Tugging a wig down takes a few seconds. Developing the skills to tailor a flattering costume for a larger size, especially when most patterns are not accurately drafted to a plus-size body shape, takes longer than that. Learning to dress a larger body in a beautiful way, when the character to mimic is smaller and wearing a costume that flatters a smaller shape, is a subtle art that also takes time to learn.

I say this so you can understand more clearly my objection. "Being respectable to yourself" is not nearly as trivial an undertaking as you're presenting it, and you're undervaluing the skill and effort of the people who do it. Like your fiancee, presumably. That's not fair to her.

>>4860495

My fiancee can alter patterns like no one's business, and she isn't even a sewer. There are alternatives and one is to ask for help. Some characters even have different outfits to choose from.

Surprisingly, on coscom no less, a girl wanted to do a mid-drift showing costume, but was big. She asked for ways to alter it to make it flattering.

On the flip side, I've used bigger patterns and altered them to be smaller for me.

I think you're playing it up really. Sorry, but I really do.

>>4860505
Are you still honestly convinced that the steps you just described are as simple as pulling a wig back down? They're not. They're multi-step procedures, requiring knowledge and creativity.

The problem, ultimately, is not whether altering a pattern or pulling down a wig is more difficult. I think that answer is pretty obvious.

It's that the cries of "make the costume flattering!" "just make it fit you well!" and so on, are conveniently ignoring the concurrent demand of extra effort and skill. As I mentioned, most character designs are not designed to flatter big women. Not just skimpy costumes, ALL costumes, or nearly so. Most clothing patterns are not drafted to deal with the widely varying shapes of larger women. What you're asking, and what everyone who insists that all you need to do is make it flattering is asking, is that the larger woman be more discerning and more skilled than a smaller woman working with the same source material.

Your fiancee has this skill, I'm sure. She and the other larger cosplayers who deal capably with the same issues deserve your acknowledgement that they've developed it. But this skill is something to learn in addition to the rest of those needed for cosplay, and those are plenty. Is it right to assume that they MUST do more?

>>4860534

No, because it's not all costumes. I've seen a Witch Hunter Robin costume look good on a plus sized girl and she just made it to look like the outfit in the series.

Effort is shown in a costume, no matter how you are to make it.

You keep talking about "pulling a wig down". I think you majorly misunderstood me on that. I didn't mean hairline showing, but bad spiking/ponytails/what have you.

Perhaps I may be undermining the changes, but in my eyes, you're also way overestimating the skill level required. Some of these people make clothes for themselves for everyday use, would a costume adjustment really be that difficult? Keep in mind you are talking to a person who is tiny on top but big on the bottom.

At this point, this is going in circles.

>>4860553
I'm fairly sure that you're saying someone who is good at sewing will be good at sewing, and well...can't argue with that.

I'm low-plus sized and rather odd-shaped myself, and I've sewn for friends much plusser than me. When I talk about the skill needed to adjust a pattern for a beautiful fit, I'll trust you to trust me that I'm not blowing smoke; I want my garments to be comfortable and lovely, tailoring can be a motherfucker, and when patterns simply don't exist for the size you need, or for certain parts and not others, "make it flattering" is a bigger fuss than you might guess.

For you, for your lady, perhaps not. For lots of people, oh yes. It's a hurdle right out of the starting block that not everybody can clear.

>>4858711
Tooone down the white eyeliner. It is SO distracting and looks tacky as hell. Put a touch of it on your lower waterline, and use a little white eyeshadow in the inner corner of your eyes. Any more than that is just excessive.

I do have to agree that you are very cute. Just...please, tone down that white.

This thread is a lot more mellow than I expected. Well-played, seagulls.

>>4853572
>This so hard. /cgl/ is a lot faster and more helpful when it comes to construction ideas

then I stopped reading. /cgl/'s delusions of grandeur are starting to worry me. all I see here is shit and bad, really bad advice. the only useful tutorials I see are stolen from DA or cosplayers sites.

>friend has a neighbor who is a total mooch, always wanting to borrow DVDs, money, groceries, her FUCKING CAR, what have you
>friend always says "OMG I'm never letting her borrow anything ever again!"
>LATER THAT DAY EVERY GODDAMN TIME "Ugh I lent her my car again and she should have come back with it two hours ago :T"

I love you but I want to smack you repeatedly.

>another friend
>dad borrows money, never returns it
>takes her to dinner and "forgets" wallet so she pays
>tells her he'll pay for her to fly to family meets and never pays her the money so out of guilt for saying she'd go she pays for it herself

WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM STOP IT STOP TRUSTING HIM FUCK

>>4860962
>>4860970
Sorry, but how are these posts relevant to this thread?

>>4860948

Really? All the advice I've ever gotten here has been good. The shit advice I usually ended up with at coscom.

LOLOLOLOLOL JUST HOT GLUE IT.

I'm convinced half the people there giving "advice" aren't even cosplayers.

>>4860948
True story, I asked about make up and wigs in coscom and my thread got ignored. Same questions were asked on /cgl/ and I had at least 10 good replies.

She's taking on Madoka...

>>4861046
I have to agree.

Anytime I want advice on something, I always come to /cgl/ first. As bad a rep people give /cgl/ and the shit tier drama, there's a lot of help to be found. I haven't asked questions on coscom in ages. I don't even have to anymore. I usually get an answer from /cgl/. Wigs, makeup, stores, props, usually /cgl/ has decent answers.

>>4860599

Isn't that the case with every cosplayer though? Not just plus sized but everyone. They have to construct the costume to be comfortable/look good to fit their own body.

For some reason, every time Formalhaut says she carries her weight well, I start chuckling.

>>4845272
anything i read in their fitness forum

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=252299&page=5
For Pete's sake! Did this Yuna girl even read the thread?!

>>4862188
I have no idea, I gave her a reply though... honestly I think we were all expecting a shit storm. What we got was pretty calm with some debating. It's defiantly not to the level of anger I expected from coscom, and I figured out just how many coscomers come here.

>>4862188
I read it like this:
She brought up a point already mentioned in this thread; you guys are coming off on the Coscom thread like 4chan is a misunderstood site and that it's really awesome when it's not. You guys really are petty, jealous bitches for the most part. But then so is Coscom, which goes to the second point she made, which is that Coscom is a shitty place to try to convince people that /cgl isn't as bad as people assume it is. Did I miss something in what she said?

>>4862344
I read it like she was saying that everyone on coscom hate's /cgl/
"This site's demographic will most likely not be amenable to any concepts which feature the idea that /cgl is in truth not the cesspool of inhuman ideology that many perceive it to be. Whatever that truth, it has little relevance in such an argument among the denizens of this forum."

to me it sounds like no matter what we say, she believes everyone on coscom wont believe us we shouldnt be wasting our time.

>>4862372
What I'm saying is Cosplay.com is full of childish little shits that wont listen to anything you try to tell them. If you were from CGL and you told them the sky was blue, they'd argue that it was florescent pink. Thank you for bringing me out of like 8 months of not posting only to be completely misunderstood. But, that's nothing new. Everyone will always take things said on Cosplay.com into the most negative place and change their meanings completely, it's the story of my fucking life on that site. CGL and Cosplay.com are exactly the same, Cosplay.com just has more people.

>>4862430
Oh woops, sorry I misunderstood you then in my reply. I still think their being more agreeable than first imagined, but you speak truth. Some of them are never going to hear the words any different. And granted, that thread is full of mostly /cgl/ folk.

All in all, the thread has been pretty tame compared to the meltdown I was anticipating. Maybe all the children of coscom have gone to bed early 2 days in a row.

>>4862642

Having read the whole coscom thread it's probably because:

1) It's mainly a 4chan circlejerk where everyone is a name/tripfag because no anon/ only 4channers mainly posting.

2) Most people know it is a troll bait thread.

3) It's not in the General Cosplay chat section.

And I'm ok with that. I'm proud people didn't go for the bait (but now that I said something more people will post in it)

But if you wanna drama and people falling for it might I suggest the General Cosplay board not the General Off Topic next time. I've seen a thread explode cause someone mentioned 4chan there. Also don't be so obvious. Don't put 4chan in the name of the thread. Gotta start off discrete, or you won't get the maximum fun.

Come on guys. I know you know how to troll better than this.

Also lol at both of these threads.